December 7, 2006
Rodriguez NOT hired as Head Coach at Alabama
The Birmingham News is reporting that the University of Alabama has reached an agreement with WVU Head Coach Rich Rodriguez to become the new Crimson Tide head coach.
According to the report, Coach Rod agreed to the offer presented by the Tide this morning after nearly a full day of negotiations. The Birmingham News says Rodriguez will talk with his family tonight, speak with his team in the morning and sign the deal on Friday and be introduced at Alabama shortly thereafter.
Sources close to the search said Rodriguez will make over $2 million per year with incentives and will have one of the highest-paid coaching staffs in the Southeastern Conference.
No word yet on the specifics or the term of the initial agreement.
After talking with two contacts who are more familiar with the Alabama search than I am, each of them said to hold your breath - as The Birmingham News doesn't mind going out on a limb with some of their sources.
That said, it looks like
So...... this may be it, Bama fans, or The Birmingham News may be totally off. But --from the sound of things-- from several sources, I feel fairly confident on the announcement. If (when?) this pans out, it would be a great, great, great hire for Bama.
UPDATE: More details from The Charleston Gazette
The Press-Register of Mobile and the Birmingham News each cited multiple sources as saying that all that remained was for Rodriguez to speak with his family and accept the position....
While the terms of the contract offer are unknown, the Mobile Press-Register, which first reported the story, said it was believed that Alabama's offer to Rodriguez would match the highest coaching salary now being paid in the SEC. Auburn's Tommy Tuberville is the highest-paid coach in the SEC at $2.2 million per year. Rodriguez currently makes $1 million at West Virginia.
UPDATE - Rodriguez staying at WVU
Talk about it in BOL Round Table
According to University of Alabama athletics director Mal Moore, West Virginia head coach Rich Rodriguez has rejected an offer to replace Mike Shula as the Crimson Tide's head coach."I received word this afternoon that Coach Rodriguez has chosen to remain the head football coach at West Virginia," Moore said in a statement released by the university on Friday afternoon. "I fully respect his decision and wish him the best. I want to remind everyone of what I said at the outset of this process: my only objective is to get the best person available to lead the Alabama football program.
Holy crap! Are you kidding me?!?! And after all the "Dewey beats Truman" from The Birmingham News!!!!
Bama jilted at the alter?!?!? Did Coach Rod play 'Bama or what?!?!?
Comments:
Big Tide said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:07 PM — 12.226.94.229 — link — abuse?
While trying to remain humble, trying to compare the two jobs is impossible. RR knows he can win it all at Bama. No chance at a school like WV. Hope he keeps Kines or uses some of that money to find a new defensive coordinator. That WV defense I saw will never make it in the SEC.
T-Mac said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:12 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse?
So Cal and everybody, calm down. It's like I told Tommie just yesterday. Say you have a job making $20/ hour. You get a job offer of between $50-$55/ hour. You know that the higher paying job comes with some baggage. This question is for everybody and anybody. What would YOU do??? Let's not forget that this is still a BUSINESS people. I know what I would do. What about everybody else. T-Mac
C-DOGG said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:16 PM — 76.188.148.131 — link — abuse?
Hey Big East Fan...where ya at! Isn't this your team? Not much respect for your conference or your team if the coach jumps ship. Yes I know money talks, but so does National Titles. Not gonna get em' at W.Virginia, but he can at Bama. I guess the Big East is not back like they thought they were. Schiano is not in love with Rutgers, but with Penn State. Watch that unfold when Paterno is gone.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:21 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
T-Mac:
It wasn't me you were tryin' to explain "simple economics" to. That was that "silksheeter" Cape Code who lives off of his grandpappy's inheritance. You know that I've tried to sell my wife and kids for less than $20 bucks on this blog. The "simple economics" tells me that I would make more money if I sold them for cheap. So, don't throw me into the catagory of people like Cape Cod who don't know where the money comes from or even how they got it. In most of the world: "everything is for sale". This is no surprise at all. Have you heard Donald Trump doin' commercial's lately. Man, you'd think that guy would have enogh bling already, but I guess not. Well, good deal for Bama'.
Tommie T
T-Mac said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:22 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse?
Big Tide, I hope RR keeps Coach Kines as well. Everybody, quit hatin on a man who is moving forward in his life. Climbing the ladder. Providing a better life for himself and his family. What's wrong with that? People do it everyday. This is the Land of Opportunity right? With the talent at Bama I think Coach Rod is a great fit. Don't hate on somebody because they are moving ahead in life and have certain goals. If you aren't moving forward, you are moving backward!!! T-Mac
WVU will move on without the LIAR ROD said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:35 PM — 68.33.252.109 — link — abuse?
Nice Rod. You are an idiot. I hope you fall flat on your face because Bama will kick you right out the door after a losing season and please do not move back to WV - we don't need your kind here.
chris said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:47 PM — 141.213.245.250 — link — abuse?
To be honest, I am surprised Alabama could not land a bigger name. I wonder how much of his success was a product of a weakened conference. I know the Big East had a big year but it is still a pretty think conference. I also wonder how much different he will be than Shula. Obviously the offense is an improvement but that comes with the defense. He also had two players that were perfect for his system. I don't blame him for taking the money, but I also do not see him being very successful. He is a second tier coach compared to his competition (Myer, Tubberville, Fulmer). Time will tell.
T-Mac said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:56 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse?
Tommie, I didn't really mean you bro. I've been cooking for me and my roommates and I've been on and off of here tonight. It was more directed at So Cal. Calling the guy a fegg and a d!ck for leaving. What's that about So Cal? People do it everyday bro. It's just business man. That's all. So Cal, if another job offer came open to you at about 2 1/2 times your current salary than what would YOU do??? Would you take the job or leave it alone? Just curious. I'm wondering what you would do in that situation.
Tommie, you are right bro. Cap Cod Tom has had it about as easy as anyone I've ever seen on here. I'm giving him a fair chance here. T-MacCap Cod Tom '84 said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:56 PM — 24.218.208.81 — link — abuse?
Tommie "C":
I can tell you are a glutton for punishment. Why else would you mess with my name like that?
My friends call me "the Intimidator." Perhaps this will dissuade you from poking fun at me.
My wife calls me horse, because I'm hung like a horse. A sea horse.
As for you, since I like you, from now on just call me...Mr. Wonderful.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:03 AM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
T-Mac:
Like me, I think So Cal is just a little concerned that money will come talkin' to Pete Carroll. I'm not looking forward to that day - and I really feel for any of the fans who have lost a good coach. People love their teams and want them to do well. It's real hard when there is a coaching change. I hope that West Virginia can find another guy to keep it rollin'. I really enjoyed watchin' those guys blast out forty a game. Kinda like watchin' Nebraska in the "old days". Hey, maybe Alabama is gonna return to the "wishbone" now. Man, did I like that offense at Alabama and Oklahoma.
Tommie T
T-Mac said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:07 AM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse?
Yeah, Cap Code Tom. Kinda like the exact same thing that Dennis Franchione did to Alabama a few years back after promising the players the world. CC-Tom, you didn't know what fegg mean't? Well, I guess we'll bring you along slow and teach you being as how we are all "hillbillies" as YOU put it.
People, relax. It's business.
So Cal, why the anger for Coach Rod Bro???
T-Mac said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:25 AM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse?
Tommie, I don't think Coach Carroll is going anywhere. I wouldn't think so. There is no reason for him to leave that program or that year-round climate in Southern California. Yeah, the Coach Rod thing is just like any other job situation. It's business. Not personal. Fans have got to learn to separate the 2. Maybe it's because I've been playin ball so long that I've become accustomed to it or something. Life is about Change. I think the Tide fans can pencil in a win in the 2007 opener against Florida State now. Lot of talent coming back. T-Mac
Cap Cod Tom '84 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:32 AM — 24.218.208.81 — link — abuse?
T-Mac:
You have the unique opportunity to view things from the professionals point of view. After all, you are a pro player. We, as fans see things differently. To fans, it ain't about money, it's about pride and loyalty as well as representation.
I still say if Rod goes to 'Bama. than he's a carpetbagger. No offense 'Bama, but if Navy offered him 3 million, he'd screw on you too. It's all about money and that's what I hate about our world.
I say it again...if Rod leaves WVU, then he's FEGG and a piece of Schitt.
WVU deserves better!
Cap Cod Tom '84 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:39 AM — 24.218.208.81 — link — abuse?
Hey Tommie "C":
#8. How's this for a silksheeter...my grandpappy was a Pennsyltucky coal miner that died in the hole in 1932. He left my father at age two, along with 9 other children. The first time my old man ever ate steak was when he left for Korea in the army. How's that for wealth?
As for me, what can I say? Rutgers educated me right. I made good of it. Or maybe I just got lucky.
WVU dad said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:46 AM — 71.255.225.234 — link — abuse?
He blew some some serious smoke up my sons butt to get him to come to WVU. Talked about family and how once you are a Mountaineer, you'll always be a Mountaineer. We believed his lines.. What a slap in the face!! Enjoy him Bama And his wife's fake Boobs too! I can't believe we turned down the likes of Beamer, Bowden, and Schiano(sp) for his B.S.!!!!
Tomcat said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:51 AM — 69.153.81.120 — link — abuse?
Happy for coach Rodriquez Roll Tide
Hey So Cal whats the matter dude? Who in their right mind would turn down such a great opportunity.To be the H.C. at one of the greatest traditional powerhouse football programs in the country. TCU 52 San Deigo St 0volstrike3 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:25 AM — 71.155.151.189 — link — abuse?
It was a no brainer. Better school, better facilities, better conference and twice the money. I do not see how anyone can fault him. He is stepping into a situation with some big expectations and I respect him for taking on such a big challenge. He better be ready to win, 8-4 is not going to be good enough for Bama Fans.
It will be interesting to see how well that gimmick offense works in the SEC. I thought Georgia figured it out after the first quarter of the bowl game last year but it was too late at that point.
Tuscaloosa Matthews said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:35 AM — 68.62.147.187 — link — abuse?
Hey guys, everybody who has an IQ over 70 knows that RR would be stupid to pass up the UA job. We have all of the money, facilities, staduim size, fan base, prestige, and not to mention players. He's going to turn bama immediately into a top 10 team next year. Just watch and see.
rod_is_an_idiot said:
posted on December 8, 2006 2:19 AM — 68.232.181.182 — link — abuse?
aparently i misjudged rod. he IS and idiot. yes bama is paying more but where is the job security. not only that but his contract with WVU gave him 1.1 mil with annual increases not to mention increases for every bowl, gpa increase, conference win, and an extra 600,000 just for staying past 2010. so technically it wasn't as much of an income boost as some people think. what i think is funny is the people who were all on the band wagon up untill now saying that that spread offense won't cut it in the SEC and now are saying "o he's such a good pick" screw you hippocrits. and to all those who said "common who wouldn't take that" i wouldn't for one. i have turned down jobs before offering double my pay before because peoples life shouldn't revolve around money. just ask rutger's coach he turned down the miami job who was offering something almost equivalent in terms of pay increase and he turned it down because there are some things that mean more in life. aparently not to rodriguez though.
shiguy said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:18 AM — 68.232.181.182 — link — abuse?
#26 WVU dad i'm sorry to here about what happened with you i really am. everyone at WVU/ west virginia is extremely pissed right now. we all feel very betrayed. wvu hired him not because they wanted just any new coach to make the program well. they hired him because he was a native, and they wanted someone who would be liked. they stuck with him for 4 years of loosing seasons and this is how he betrays them. f#ck you rod...trust me WVU Dad you weren' the only one i was as the fan fest when he brought his son and said to all of us "future WVU QB" ya right your ass better not ever step in the state again after this. and by the way WVU Dad with your loss i would just like to say reguardless of who coaches this team we have the best fans who will alwasy be there for the team reguardless of the season's outcome and i will be there next year chearing the team. i'll also probably be at the iron bowl go auburn!
BETRAYED said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:22 AM — 72.84.52.59 — link — abuse?
I am ashamed that Rich Rod use to wear the gold and the blue... I thought he was a bigger man then this. What happened to the ever popular once a Mountaineer ALWAYS a Mountaineer. Well RICH I am ashamed that you were a Mountaineer I thought you were a bigger man than that. Rutgers coach stayed with his team which has NEVER been good. 137 years it took Rutgers to get anywhere, but guess what Rutgers coach STAYED with Rutgers!!!!!!!!! I hope you lose all your games. Burn in hell. West Virginia is referred to as ALMOST HEAVEN! Well this heaven no longer welcomes you. You greedy ass bastard. I hope Auburn kicks your ass. In fact I will be there cheering Auburn on wearing my BLUE AND GOLD waving an Auburn shirt because I HAVE LOYALTY!!!!!!!!!!
Jim said:
posted on December 8, 2006 4:32 AM — 155.229.229.162 — link — abuse?
The Charleston Gazette is saying there is no deal yet according to Rodriguez, for what that is worth.
I don't think today is make or break because Rodriguez has not even visited the Alabama campus yet and people close to Rodriguez said he would want to do that.
There is also the fact that he told his players that he was not going to alabama, miami or anywhere else, I know it is twice the money and he knew that too when he told his players he was going to be there. Here is a link to the article.
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on December 8, 2006 5:03 AM — 68.48.90.67 — link — abuse?
Oh yeah! I just can't wait to hear about how the SEC's offense has improved so much!!!! But, While he was at WVU......he was simply coaching against weak teams. Just wait BAMA fans..... you will do well real soon. Rodriguez.........$uck my........
Dave F said:
posted on December 8, 2006 5:42 AM — 24.172.90.242 — link — abuse?
" i have turned down jobs before offering double my pay before because peoples life shouldn't revolve around money."
You, sir, are either a liar or a fool. Quite possibly both. I can see turning down a 10 or 20 percent increase if the new job sucked (even I've done that), but the only reason a thinking person would turn down a job *doubling* his salary, especially when we're talking MILLIONS, would be that he is confident that an even better offer awaits him.
That's why Schiano turned down Miami; he thinks Penn State will over him more when JoePa goes. Hell of a gamble, in my view, unless he's got inside information that JoePa is leaving this season or next. It's highly unlikely that he can sustain what he's built at Rutgers for any length of time. He needs to jump on an opportunity while he's on top, because he's not going to be there for long at a school like that.
Back to the topic, though: RichRod would've been a complete idiot not to have taken Bama's offer. Even though it's a crappy work environment (unrealistic expectations & no job security), he still stands to gain a lot. If he stays 3 or 4 years and gets fired, he'll make a boatload more money-- and we're talking millions in this context-- than he would've over the same period at WVU. Assuming he invests wisely, it won't even matter if he can't find another coaching gig, because he'll have more than enough to retire comfortably at a relatively young age. Or go work for ESPN with DiNardo and the other has-beens.
And people need to get over being pissed when a coach implies to the media that he's staying put, then leaves. That's just standard operating procedure. What's he supposed to do-- say "Why yes, I don't have another offer yet but I'm very interested in leaving here for more money"? Would YOU do that? Hell no. You always say you're happy with your job until you have another one secured. You have to cover your butt in case the other opportunity doesn't work out and you end up staying.
And I'll finish this silly rant by saying you people that think that things like loyalty and commitment to a program should trump money and opportunity are not living in the real world. Why should a football coach (or anyone else) show that kind of loyalty to an employer, when his employer would never show that kind of loyalty to him? WVU would fire RichRod in a heartbeat if it was in their best interest financially. If he stops winning, the program starts losing money and the fans start griping, and he's history. If YOU start costing your employer money and damaging their public image, you're history, too. They're not going to keep you around because you're a swell guy and you used to do a good job. Loyalty schmoyalty kids; this is business, nothing more.
Big Tide said:
posted on December 8, 2006 7:00 AM — 12.226.94.229 — link — abuse?
Excellent post Dave F. As an alumnus of UA I would like to dispute the fact that we are some crazed group of people that can't be satisfied. And beleive me, eating humble pie for the past 5 seasons has made a difference. If Coach Rod comes to T-town and does what he's done at every other school where he has coached he will be fine. Besides the money HE will make, he will be able to bring in the best assistants. All the great programs have great assistants. That is something he could not do at WV. It is worth noting that Coach Stallings was getting tired of the grind and while he may have been pressured out a few seasons too early his time was up. Dubose got canned for messing around with his secretary and paying players. Coach Fran left because he couldn't take the pressure of big time football. Mike Price would have been fired anywhere after he had already been reprimanded for drinking on campus and then goes on a stripper rampage. Shula is the only guy out of this bunch who was canned for lack of performance and let's face it, for a guy who's expertise was suppose to be offense he just never cut the mustard. He was over his head and I doubt you will ever see him coach again. I think RR has a great background that will fit well in Alabama. Son of a coal miner, etc. I hope he stays at Bama a long time and has a lot of success.
PSouthern said:
posted on December 8, 2006 7:17 AM — 71.226.162.161 — link — abuse?
You try to teach our kids about honesty and values. You tell the college football world that you have landed your "Dream Job" at home, at your alma mater, and you preach to your team that, "Once a Mountaineer, alway a Mountaineer." You may be doubling you salary and making a business decision, but you're a LIAR. You lied to your kids, you lied to your team, you lied to your recruits, who trusted you and made life changing decisions for you, and you'll lie to Alabama. It's obvious that's just who you are. I don't have a problem with you leaving...WVU football is bigger than you, it's just the cowardly, dishonest manner in which you pulled it off. I truely hope that you, as reported, didn't tell Steve Slaton that you weren't leaving. He's one of the many top-notch kids who got you where you are. Now you bailing on him and the team. You've won some football games, Rich Rodriguez, but you're a dishonest loser otherwise. Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya.
rod_is_an_idiot said:
posted on December 8, 2006 7:45 AM — 68.232.181.182 — link — abuse?
so i'm a liar or a fool Dave F??? really you sir are the fool. if he really wanted to do what u said and just invest money so that it didn't matter what job he has he could do that anyway. getting paid 1.1 mil with annual increase and benifit increases out the ass i would be happy with that. i know other people who would be happy getting that. the 2 mil at alabama comes with alot of expectation which if no delivered he will be dropped as fast as possible. o and about your WVU dropping him, you don't know anything about WVU football so don't even try to argue that. WVU hired him not as much because they felt that he would turn the program around quickly but because they felt it was a secure hire in someone people would love at the school. his predicessor was don Neyland so it's not like he had to turn something around, it was all ready good! in fact he didn't even start winning seasons till his 5th year at the school so there goes your argument about dropping him when its not profitable for the school. (by the way our fans still sold out the stadium when they were loosing seasons) if you're not from West Virginia or ever been there then you can't talk about anything in the state because you are ignorant.
1fan4WVU said:
posted on December 8, 2006 8:02 AM — 24.140.92.2 — link — abuse?
Waking up this morning and hearing that Coach Rod had accepted the job wasn't a complete shock. Certainly it is an opportunity, coaching in the SEC, making nearly double the salary, blah blah blah. My hunch is that he'll be wishing he would have never left Morgantown after that first loss to Auburn. Bama fans appear to still be living in the days of "The Bear". The fact of the matter is that Bama is no longer a top program. I believe that with Coach Rod's offense he will do some things in the SEC and possibly begin a great run at Alabama..............that is until someone else comes calling with a little change in their pocket.
Go EERS!
brad said:
posted on December 8, 2006 8:34 AM — 168.216.85.164 — link — abuse?
I would just like to take the time to say what a jerk Mr. Rich is...I hope Alabama has it's worst season EVER and I also hope he gets fired from there and is forced to go back to Division 2 schools to coach....by the way we will be selling our Gator Bowl tickets because of Rich Rodriguez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Asshole
Tom Blogical said:
posted on December 8, 2006 9:12 AM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
I have to admit that I'm pretty surprised over this one. I definitely made a mistake thinking that if Schiano stayed, Rodriguez would too.
I don't blame him at all for wanting to make more money and to coach at a legendary football school, but the guy was a WVU alum, he could've coached there as long as he wanted, and already made good money with incentives. All he needed was an improved defense next year and I think it gets pretty interesting over there as far as National Title hopes are concerned. He might've had the beginning of something special going there.
I'm not sure that once he's there he can sell the "once a Bama man, always a Bama man" schtick, since he did that at WVU. But hey, I've never coached or recruited anybody so what the hell do I know?
Whatever. We'll see who he hires as a DC now and if he can coach in the shadow of a legend. If he was looking for a challenge I think he definitely got one.
Now who does WVU want as they're next HC, and do they keep Rodriguez on for the Gator Bowl against Georgia Tech?
Jeremy said:
posted on December 8, 2006 9:17 AM — 65.82.138.66 — link — abuse?
I am here at work listening to the radio,
Rodriguez has called the Charleston Gazette and said He was still the coach at WVU and that he had practice today, now that just might last till noon but he has said that he did not agree to anything yet.I think he is gone but all my fellow moutaineers lets wait until it is official and the start talking about replacements
Go Moutaineers
AllEers said:
posted on December 8, 2006 9:40 AM — 162.129.250.4 — link — abuse?
Thank you Rich Rod for blowing the outrageous ego of the SEC out of the water.
Mark my words though...if Rod can't remain true to his alma mater...Bama is just another stepping stone.
Rod to the Steelers in 3 years.
His heart lies (literally) with the dollar bill.rebel1222 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 9:50 AM — 74.246.157.47 — link — abuse?
I know it has to be disheartening for WVU fans to lose their coach, that has built an excellent team and program over the last few years. You can't blame him for wanting to move on to a premier program like UA, in the SEC and out of the BIg East. Shula took us out of the sanction years. Now it is time to begin the ascent back into the elite programs in the country.
UA has a horde of talent on both sides of the ball coming back next year. Offense has been the problem under Shula and Rader. Now they will have a true offensive innovator at the helm. I just hope he leaves his Defensive Coordinator and that 3-3-5 stack in the mountian state. Auburn will have a down year next year.
Rich, please bring your offensive line coach with you.
The Tide should begin to roll once again!
Gerald said:
posted on December 8, 2006 10:08 AM — 216.113.128.239 — link — abuse?
What's you folks' problem? Rodriguez got you guys a BCS bowl victory back when everyone thought that the Big East would collapse and make WVU a mid - major like Marshall. He did his job at WVU. What, you lack confidence that WVU can attract another good coach or something? There are lots of good coaches out there. You could hire Patterson from TCU, for instance. Or Bud Foster from Virginia Tech. Coach Rod wants to win a national title, and there are too many hurdles to getting it done at WVU right now. Get yourselves a coach who is willing to stick with you for the long term and move on.
FanoftheGame said:
posted on December 8, 2006 10:11 AM — 12.43.234.14 — link — abuse?
I don't think anyone should be suprised by Rodriguez's decsion. I can understand the disappointment that the WV fans are feeling right now, but even they had to know that he would probably be leaving. Bama fans are likely to feel the same way in a few years when he leaves the Tide program to take over at FSU. As I said before; Rodriguez knows he's a few years away from being in a position to take over at FSU, so why not "cash in" while he can. If he really is the coach that everyone thinks he is then he's leaving the WV program in much better shape than he found it. I don't blame the WV faithful for being upset with him for leaving, but the Mountaineer program is probably going to be just fine.
PSouthern said:
posted on December 8, 2006 10:25 AM — 70.158.89.34 — link — abuse?
I cut and pasted this directly from the coachrod.com web site..... "A dream come true" is what Rich Rodriguez calls the opportunity to serve as West Virginia University’s 31st head football coach.
Since his hiring on Nov. 26, 2000, Rodriguez has approached the chance to head the football program at his alma mater with enthusiasm and appreciation.
What a coward!major harris said:
posted on December 8, 2006 10:31 AM — 168.216.208.215 — link — abuse?
he can't win a championship at wvu but he can at 'bama? please. what has bama done? you've got bear bryant, then forrest gump. recruiting is more cut throat, if he doesn't beat auburn you guys will be calling for his head. this is not a smart move outside of the money. i know i'll never be in a position where i have to decide on a million dollar raise, but to me, there's something to be said about coaching 30 minutes from where you grew up and the school where you played. once a mountaineer, always a mountaineer....whatever.
Cap Cod Tom '84 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 10:32 AM — 24.218.208.81 — link — abuse?
Hey Shiguy & WVdad;
Rutgers will be cheering for you next year. WVU will recover at some point. I don't believe your program will collaspe like Syracuse has.
I guess 1 million dollars isn't good enough for good old Coach Rod.
I don't think he'll be stepping into your state anytime soon. What a FOOL!
Jeremy said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:00 AM — 65.82.138.66 — link — abuse?
Hey Gerald
What you do not understand is that we thought we had the coach for the long term.
And the biggest fact IF he leaves he would have lied to the whole state and that is what makes us Moutaineer fans mad, The lies not just that he is leaving for another program.
it's better than it looks said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:15 AM — 24.49.152.135 — link — abuse?
as a wvu student i have respect for rod and what he did for WVU but im not sad to see him go...now bama gets to deal with his 3&1 shotgun draws for losses, awful playcalling with no adjustments no matter what happens....if wvu can't beat USF and gets challenged by a team like east carolina just imagine whats going to happen to his no-change, same plays all game long scheme in the SEC against LSU, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, well you all get the idea. good luck to bama and have fun running a spread without 2 guys in the back field that run 4.3 40's. wvu has a good enough program and 2 top heisman candidates so they shouldnt have a problem getting a quality replacement that can take them to a national title
AllEers said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:18 AM — 162.129.250.4 — link — abuse?
Gerald,
You are an idiot. He had 4 years that were less than spectacular and WVU stuck with him. He is alumn. He played for WVU. If he isn't willing to stick around; who is? I'm sorry, but the people who earned their degree and/or have grown up wearing Old Gold and Blue deserve to feel betrayed. The SEC doesn't understand the tradition of loyalty. The majority of the NCAA teams work to build a legacy and don't assume that they merely "deserve" that status.
Borolet said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:25 AM — 168.11.117.9 — link — abuse?
He will do fair to good, but the only question from the Alabama administration, boosters, and fans is can he beat Auburn? If he can't do so in 3 years, he will be out the door, just like Bill Curry and Mike Shula, neither could beat Auburn. It will take him 3 to 4 years to get the players in place that he wants and needs. By this time it will be to late after 3 Auburn losses. But he doesn't care, because it is all about the money. If they can him, he will be set for life, because he will still get the contractual monies whether he wins or loses. Shula got fired and still has to be paid 4 million by Alabama. (No need to look for another job anytime soon Mike). Of course the folks at Alabama obviously have much more money than they have sense.
C-DOGG said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:36 AM — 76.188.148.131 — link — abuse?
Major Harris (are you THE major harris...just curious.)
Were you in a coma and missed the 1992 Sugar Bowl? My Canes were upset for the national title by Alabama. I believe Bear Bryant was already in the ground. Can Coach Rod win a title @ Bama over W. Virginia?....of course.
EErful said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:39 AM — 70.88.118.14 — link — abuse?
Hey Rod,
Way to set an example for the young men who wear gold and blue. Honestly, is it really going to be worth it? I understand this may appear to be a good move for you, but I think you are really dropping the ball here. It is one thing to be honest and say that you are seriously considering rolling with the tide; it is another thing to deny it and lie outright. You have no character; I heard your very own words, "I plan to stay at West Virginia for the rest of my career" over and over the past few weeks. Your team, everyone associated with WVU, your fans, and your conference deserved to hear the truth. To be honest, all you want is to be coaching Pitt in the NFL; that is the only reason you're doing this back-handed deal. Fine! Get the hell out! I don't want you (unless your tied to a burning couch after a victory)if your heart isn't there. Hey maybe we'll get a coach who has a sack and goes for it on third and one! I have faith that Owen can get that yard; you obviously don't. Enjoy the money...I mean does your wife, Rita really need any more plastic surgery? I would answer, no! But hey, to each is own. To the REAL men and Mountaineers who play West Virginia football... we believe in you and I KNOW you can win a National Championship (defense, I love you, BUT please work on hitting and wrapping low) and Steve, you WILL win that Heisman! Mr. White, you have what it takes... you are a class act QB. Just trust yourself when you read the field! My point, don't sell out like Mr. money bags... WVU needs and loves you! GO EERS!! GO BIG EAST!!!! GO AWAY ROD!!!!
Bobby Dodd Disciple said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:45 AM — 168.9.26.153 — link — abuse?
You guys are missing the point. RR is doing this to prove to himself whether he can be successful at the highest level (apologies to the Big East, but you're not the measuring stick for success). He wants to see if his own abilities can stand up against a rugged conference, insane crowds, intense scrutiny, etc. Don't blame someone for trying to challenge themselves; and placing themselves in a vulnerable, yet potentially rewarding situation. Bravo Rich, for running the gauntlet!
You WHINERS are probably the type that live across the street from your parents in the same pathetic house for 50 yrs and have "my kid is an honor student at Joe Blow High" bumper stickers all over your car (even though little Johnny graduated in '82)! You work a dead-end job and the fact that RR has brought some success to your little town has given you hope that life exists in WV. Get over it
rebel1222 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:14 PM — 74.246.157.47 — link — abuse?
He can win with UA next year with all the talewnt he has coming back. Auburn's losing almost their whole O-line, both their tail-backs and half their Lb's, and their best corner back. They will have a down year and maybe a couple. Trickett could do wonders with bama's O-line. They can win in '07, no doubt.
shiguy said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:26 PM — 157.182.43.210 — link — abuse?
it never ceses to amaze me at how stupid the south is. go preach about how great your teams are to your alumni because frankly the rest the country doesn't care! i'm sick of hearing how rodriquez could never have done anything at wvu in the big east. if he would have gone undefeated this year we would be in the national champ. not florida. likewise now especially after 2 10+ winning seasons going undefeated next year would definately garner a championship bid. so i don't wanna hear about how the big east would not allow him to do anything. he will have a hell of a lot more time trying to do anything in bama where the players don't respect him. the conference didn't respect him and other than bama none of the other schools respect him. congrats bama you are now in the same boat as the white sox. enjoy your bought coach.
Randall said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:31 PM — 69.73.31.232 — link — abuse?
Everybody - CHILL OUT! Give RR a break. In coaching, like any profession, you have to make moves that advance your career and yes your bank account. Is that not what we all strive for? Are you going to turn down a management position simply because you are loyal to the people that you currently work with? Hell No. Bama has had its struggles too. We have had a coach leave in the middle of the night after he told his players and the media he was staying. (Coach Fran, Texas A&M) So don't direct your anger towards the Alabama fans. As Alabama Defensive Coordinator said in a press conference last week about the firing of Mike Shula, " College football is the best sport in the nation, however, sometimes it is not the best business." WVU should be proud of RR and how far he has brought your program. He decided it was time to move on and that is what he did. Did you plan on asking him for permission about your plans? So why does he owe anyone an explanation? Also, don't get too concerned about his comments in the past week. Yes, I will agree that he should have handed it a little differently, however, remember that he is still under contract at WVU until he signs with Alabama. He could not speak out about another school or express interest without subjecting himself to liability. Give him credit, he did not cancel any appearances to recruit or promote WVU football, he has been loyal up until the end. I wish WVU success in the future and I hope RR will help turn Alabama around. Only time will tell.
*Just a suggestion, remember you at WVU will be on a coaching search soon, so dont scare any prospective coach off be appearing to be rude and hateful fans.FanoftheGame said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:40 PM — 12.43.234.14 — link — abuse?
This is getting almost comical. Again, I understand why the WV fans are a little upset, but this isn't the end of the football world for WV. All of this bashing and criticizing of RR is coming from a personal level. If he had lost 7 games this year, the same fans who are reacting as if there daddy walked out on them, would be calling for his immediate firing. So he lied to you. So he led you to believe he was staying and he chose not to. Don't take it personal! You evidentally weren't a factor in his decision to leave so why should you care on such a personal level. We all agree that he wasn't completely honest with you guys, but whats done, is done. You should be making a big push for the WV AD to hire Mike Shula, to lead the Mountaineers to the NC game next season.......At lest that way the Bama fans can spend next year being mad at RR for leaving WV.(Actually, hiring Shula might just be the answer for WV football).
In any event, move on with your lives and keep your expectation high for your program. After all, your players are still there..........for now.WV Fan said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:43 PM — 129.71.236.78 — link — abuse?
I don't care Coach Rod leaves are not. I'm not upset about it. I wish him well at Alabmama.
C-Dogg what dog food have you been eating, dogging the Big East. Championships at Alabama, what in the HECK are you talking about? Bama was not been the same since Mike Price was caught in a strip bar, how many games did he win at Bama? Wasn't it Auburn who went 12-0 a few years back and did not get a chance to play for the National Championship? Didn't Flordia get a gift this year getting to play for the National Championship? You actually think that Bama has a shot at a National Championship, WHATEVER. You dogg the Big East and Alabama could not beat South Flordia, Pitt or Cincinnati.
ALABAMA WILL NOT play for the National Championship again.
C-Dogg did you happen to watch last years Sugar Bowl when WV ran on the SEC's Champion Georgia like a treadmill?
I hope next year that WV and Alabama play in a bowl so Slaton and White can run all over Bama and destroy that 3-3-5 defense that will be installed down in Bama country.
Have fun playing in Bowl games agaisnt New Mexico and Idaho in the next few years.
volstrike3 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:53 PM — 216.103.178.34 — link — abuse?
WVA fans,
Loyalty does not really exist in college football. Larry Coker was a Miami guy, won a National Title in his first season and then got canned when they were less than elite for two years in a row. CFB is a big business so throw your notions of "WVA pride, etc" out the window.
You need to learn how to deal with success. When your program is successful, your coaches get taken. Most schools in the top 10 are worried about losing their coach, OC/DC almost every year. When Tennessee won the National Title in 1998, we lost our OC, he left to be the head coach at Mississippi. It is just part of having a winning program.
EER10 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:19 PM — 129.71.238.253 — link — abuse?
It makes me sick to hear people say that RR built the WVU program !! That is in no way true.
DON NEHLEN built that program 26 years ago. Coach Rod,
have nothing good to say, so I will not comment on you. Jumbo Fisher at LSU will be WVU's new coach. The BS 3-3-5 Defense sucked anyway. Its time to get back to smack A$$ WVU "D" !!!!!Good Luck at Bama, NOT !!!
Dave F said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:20 PM — 24.172.70.186 — link — abuse?
Did he ever say "I will never leave West Virginia?"
I've never seen that particular quote. The quote I've seen says he's PLANNING to remain at WVU for his career.
Plans change. Or maybe all of you unhinged WVU fans have actually done everything you ever said you were planning to do?
As I said before, he said exactly what he had to say. When someone asks you if you're leaving your job, you HAVE to say you love your job and you plan to stay there, until you've actually secured another one. Otherwise, if you end up staying, you've got a lot of explaining to do. Or maybe each of you unhinged WVU fans always go and tell your employer right up front when you're out looking for other jobs?
You folks need to settle down. People quit their jobs for better jobs all the time. You'll hire another coach and your program will be fine.
Major Harris said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:24 PM — 168.216.208.215 — link — abuse?
just so everyone knows, because no one (myself included) is acting this way....this isn't a done deal. rumors are he's negotiating w/ wvu now. i'd find it comical if the hallowed U that is 'bama was none more than a bargaining chip.
Gerald said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:49 PM — 216.113.128.239 — link — abuse?
AllEers:
I am going to respond to you without sinking to your level of personal attacks.
"He had 4 years that were less than spectacular and WVU stuck with him." Yeah, like the 4 years previous to his getting hired were so great or something. Look, WVU was REBUILDING. WVU hadn't done SQUAT but get blown out in the Blockbuster and Continental Tire Bowl for YEARS before Rodriguez was hired. You had the undefeated regular season with Kelchner and Studstill in 1992, and you had one very good year with Marc Bulger, and that was it.
"If he isn't willing to stick around; who is?" Sorry, but pretty much everyone outside of Morgantown knew that the guy was going to leave soon. The guy was a hot property who could have virtually any job that he wants; college today and NFL where the real money is tomorrow. I thought it was going to be after he made a national title game first, but it may be that he thinks that WVU may not be able to compete with Louisville, Rutgers, and USF for the long haul. "I'm sorry, but the people who earned their degree and/or have grown up wearing Old Gold and Blue deserve to feel betrayed." Actually, since as I stated earlier the guy was obviously going to leave anyway, it is better for him to leave now, while you guys are still basking in the glow of that Sugar Bowl win and still have White and Slaton (particularly White, because even if Slaton comes out early White certainly won't) and can still attract a big name assistant or even a top small college coach. Had Rodriguez failed to take WVU back to a BCS game and White and Slaton left, he still would have been a top property to get virtually any other job, but you guys might not have been able hire another high profile guy to replace him. "The SEC doesn't understand the tradition of loyalty." Actually, the SEC does, and honoring loyalty and tradition was why the conference didn't do squat from like 1981 until Spurrier came along. The SEC became a top conference again only when they stopped taking care of the alums and lifetime assistants and started bringing in new blood; guys from other conferences (even the hated PAC - 10 and ACC like Rich Brooks, Al Borges, and Mark Richt!) and a bunch of NFL guys. Tennessee is pretty much the only SEC program with an old - time SEC staff. What the SEC knows about tradition is the same thing that big business knows: tradition gets you left behind.
Look, West Virginia can solve their coaching dilemma in five minutes. How? Paul Johnson of Navy. They already have the talent that Johnson needs to run his offense, and since Johnson is a true veer guy (rather than a spread option guy), no other program is going to want him because the passing game is what sells today. Get Paul Johnson, and not only will you get a guy who will stick around for a dozen years or so, but you will also actually get a better coach.
EErful said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:55 PM — 70.88.118.14 — link — abuse?
Now that I have expressed my anger over this issue and his intentional lying (if the media isn't lying to us)... who knows! I apologize for my cruel remarks. I was emotional. Sorry. Regardless, I wish he and his family the best. I really hope this isn't actually happening... I can't believe coach Rod would do this!
Borolet said:
posted on December 8, 2006 2:01 PM — 168.11.117.9 — link — abuse?
Hold the Phone!! He may not be Gone!!!
Reports coming out of West Virginia state that Rodriguez has not accepted the Alabama job. He is still on the road promoting the Gator Bowl. He has not even been to the University of Alabama to check out the facilities. When he was being considered for the Texa A & M job before he took the WV job, he visited the place three times. Why would he want to take a job before checking more into the details and geting an agreed contract. These things take time. I still say he is using the Alabama job as leverage. WVU is now making a last ditch effort to meet or closely match what Alabama is offering in terms of salry. If you go to the WVU web site and note that most of Rodriguez assistant coaches are from WV. There roots are there. He is a native son and alumni. I don't think he would turn tail and run on his own, but he will hold out for more money and better facilities, as well better pay for his asst. coaches. He will get it, and stay in WV. The Alabama media do not have reliable sources in this situation. I'm telling you folks, it is not a done deal yet. Until you see Rodriguez at a press conference in Tuscaloosa, then it will be a done deal, and not until that happens, he will remain at WVU.
AirForceRanger said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:06 PM — 68.39.171.29 — link — abuse?
Dave F:
When you tell your players you have every intention of staying with your team and make repeated reports in the press then we have an issue to say it once but he did a smialar stunt with the NC "tarheel" job not dismissing the rumors at the start before the Lousiville game.. i really think this guy is far from a class act and don't know why he is so highly regarded his Offense is evolving all around the leauge and soon will be a common look.. but Major has a good point it could be a effort to get the most out of WVU time will tell...C-DOGG said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:22 PM — 76.188.148.131 — link — abuse?
Re: post#76,
Calm down bitter W.Virginia fan. Your team didn't exactly hold the crystal football trophy after the sugarbowl last year. The fact that someone took your coach is a compliment to what your favorite team has accomplished. The fact that your coach left is a reality check on how far the Big East still has to go.Chase said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:25 PM — 198.70.212.8 — link — abuse?
ESPNews is reporting that Rodriguez is staying at West Virginia.
Good news for all the West Virginia fans and I hope this gets rid of the animosity that is prevalent on this page right now.
As for Alabama, who's next? Maybe Paul Johnson at Navy? Maybe promoting Kines? Any ideas?
posted on December 8, 2006 3:25 PM — link — abuse?Jeff Quinton said:
Sounds like it's not happening now.
Look for Bama to make a push for Spurrier again with more $$$ and possible future considerations for Steve Jr.
C-DOGG said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:35 PM — 76.188.148.131 — link — abuse?
WV fan (Re:post#76),
You obviously must be new around here. Everyone that had been blogging here for at least 30 days knows that I am not an Alabama fan. All I am saying is that the Crimson Tide will win a national title (again) before ANY BEAT EAST school. Your conference proved on back to back Thursday Night ESPN games that they were not ready to play for a national title. Let me repeat what I said many times before (for the new guy)........NO BIG LEAST PROGRAM WILL WIN A NATIONAL TITLE WITHOUT V.TECH OR MIAMI. When they left, so did your respect & credibility. Are you the Big East or the "B" division of conference USA?
AU03 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:48 PM — 205.255.224.10 — link — abuse?
Major Harris, you are the winner (and notice I used a qualifying "if" in my previous post).
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/ncaa/12/08/rodriguez.stays.ap/index.html
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on December 8, 2006 4:07 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
These guys sure are good at "workin' a raise". Wish I could have it so good. Wondering if head coaches aren't promising a 50% payback to any University that will woo them so that they can cash in. Seems like a good way for AD's to raise funds. Otherwise, I can't understand what a lot of this is even about.
Tommie T
FanoftheGame said:
posted on December 8, 2006 4:23 PM — 12.43.234.14 — link — abuse?
Exactly Tommie!
This sounds more like a coaching auction than it does anything else........."Alabama has the bid at $2 million.....Do I hear $2.1 million?....Going once!.....Going Twice!.......$2.1 million to West Virginia!....Do I hear $2.2 million?........Going Once!.......Going Twice!........SOLD!! Congratulations to the Mountaineers on having the winning bid.clemson1981 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 4:40 PM — 74.226.196.203 — link — abuse?
ya know its really sad to see bama this low, now that coach rod withdrew his name from the hat, what does bama have left, maybe just maybe bama will see how the u went with the choice of keeping somebody from the staff on the team, i personaly think the joe kines would not be that bad of a choice for this team.
BuckiNut said:
posted on December 8, 2006 4:53 PM — 65.189.178.33 — link — abuse?
You EEERS fans should be ashamed. attacking coach Rod [and his family]. WVU dad, I hope Coach Rod and WVU is teaching your son better morals than you are at home. You should be embarrassed about the coments you made about his wife [post #26]. When you say things like that ooops never mind, just doesn't seem to be good enough. Think before you speak. It might come back to bite you in the a$$. Now you can all jump back on his bandwagon.
AU graytness said:
posted on December 8, 2006 5:10 PM — 71.70.187.29 — link — abuse?
My stomach hurts from laughing so hard...apparently Bama doesn't need Auburn kicking its rump to look like fools...they can do it all on their own.
This is the longest thread of fools ever!
I can't believe how many of you talked trash to WV WITHOUT THE HIRING BECOMING OFFICIAL!!!
Is Mike Price available? Perhaps Dennis Fran?
Your program has gone from being at the top...to being a national joke. Perhaps the "thumb" is just too much for you to take...or is it Auburn's perfect record on YOUR field. Shame on you for firing Shula.
WAR EAGLE!
bill said:
posted on December 8, 2006 5:17 PM — 68.220.194.65 — link — abuse?
I'm amazed at how quickly W.V. fans can turn aginst coach Rodriguez ! The only fans that I know of that can turn on a coach any quicker , are Bama fans ! Last year Mike Shula was a hero and this year ? Mikie boy is worthless , couldn't coach himself out of a wet paper bag !
My suggestion to any coach that would stupid enough to take the Bama job , save all your money , don't buy a house here and at the end of next season , start looking for another job !Mountaineer fan in South Carolina said:
posted on December 8, 2006 6:53 PM — 63.135.42.251 — link — abuse?
I was feeling pretty low when I heard that Coach Rod was leaving WVU for Alabama. It wasn't that he was leaving, but that it appeared he lied about the situation. I do feel much better now that he decided to stay and I hope he is able to get more money for his assistant coaches, too. Don't you think this is a heck of a way to get a raise? USC had to raise the bar for their coach and WVU had to also. Whatever coach Alabama goes after now, that university had better start passing the collection plate!
poz4ua said:
posted on December 8, 2006 6:55 PM — 68.62.147.180 — link — abuse?
AU graytness you are stink off cow sh$t now that's out of the way................Mal Moore, Bryant Jr., ans the Board of Trustees has turned Alabama into a joke. Bryant Jr. needs to go pick up a new hobby and drop the one he has now, ruining alabama, Mal Moore needs to fired, and the BOT needs to stick to their day jobs instead of trying to rule Alabama. AU graytness it's ok for people who are Alabama fans like me who actually go to school there or who have been fans their whole lives to discuss what is going on with our program . But pieces of cow sh$t like need to stick to their own business. I'm pretty sure theirs a cow needing to be milked and the horses need to be fed so get to work biotch.
goodolnuma5 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 6:59 PM — 24.208.149.244 — link — abuse?
post #124
C'MON!!! Why the hell would any former D1 QB be on this blog? The only people on this blog are sick college FB fans who pontficate wisdoms graunde to other sick CB fans............................................................except for me of course.
UWDAWg said:
posted on December 8, 2006 7:34 PM — 82.206.158.26
So Cal USMC said:
posted on December 7, 2006 10:47 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?What a Fegg.