December 7, 2006
Rodriguez NOT hired as Head Coach at Alabama
The Birmingham News is reporting that the University of Alabama has reached an agreement with WVU Head Coach Rich Rodriguez to become the new Crimson Tide head coach.
According to the report, Coach Rod agreed to the offer presented by the Tide this morning after nearly a full day of negotiations. The Birmingham News says Rodriguez will talk with his family tonight, speak with his team in the morning and sign the deal on Friday and be introduced at Alabama shortly thereafter.
Sources close to the search said Rodriguez will make over $2 million per year with incentives and will have one of the highest-paid coaching staffs in the Southeastern Conference.
No word yet on the specifics or the term of the initial agreement.
After talking with two contacts who are more familiar with the Alabama search than I am, each of them said to hold your breath - as The Birmingham News doesn't mind going out on a limb with some of their sources.
That said, it looks like
So...... this may be it, Bama fans, or The Birmingham News may be totally off. But --from the sound of things-- from several sources, I feel fairly confident on the announcement. If (when?) this pans out, it would be a great, great, great hire for Bama.
UPDATE: More details from The Charleston Gazette
The Press-Register of Mobile and the Birmingham News each cited multiple sources as saying that all that remained was for Rodriguez to speak with his family and accept the position....
While the terms of the contract offer are unknown, the Mobile Press-Register, which first reported the story, said it was believed that Alabama's offer to Rodriguez would match the highest coaching salary now being paid in the SEC. Auburn's Tommy Tuberville is the highest-paid coach in the SEC at $2.2 million per year. Rodriguez currently makes $1 million at West Virginia.
UPDATE - Rodriguez staying at WVU
Talk about it in BOL Round Table
According to University of Alabama athletics director Mal Moore, West Virginia head coach Rich Rodriguez has rejected an offer to replace Mike Shula as the Crimson Tide's head coach."I received word this afternoon that Coach Rodriguez has chosen to remain the head football coach at West Virginia," Moore said in a statement released by the university on Friday afternoon. "I fully respect his decision and wish him the best. I want to remind everyone of what I said at the outset of this process: my only objective is to get the best person available to lead the Alabama football program.
Holy crap! Are you kidding me?!?! And after all the "Dewey beats Truman" from The Birmingham News!!!!
Bama jilted at the alter?!?!? Did Coach Rod play 'Bama or what?!?!?
Comments:
Big Tide said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:07 PM — 12.226.94.229 — link — abuse?
While trying to remain humble, trying to compare the two jobs is impossible. RR knows he can win it all at Bama. No chance at a school like WV. Hope he keeps Kines or uses some of that money to find a new defensive coordinator. That WV defense I saw will never make it in the SEC.
T-Mac said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:12 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse?
So Cal and everybody, calm down. It's like I told Tommie just yesterday. Say you have a job making $20/ hour. You get a job offer of between $50-$55/ hour. You know that the higher paying job comes with some baggage. This question is for everybody and anybody. What would YOU do??? Let's not forget that this is still a BUSINESS people. I know what I would do. What about everybody else. T-Mac
C-DOGG said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:16 PM — 76.188.148.131 — link — abuse?
Hey Big East Fan...where ya at! Isn't this your team? Not much respect for your conference or your team if the coach jumps ship. Yes I know money talks, but so does National Titles. Not gonna get em' at W.Virginia, but he can at Bama. I guess the Big East is not back like they thought they were. Schiano is not in love with Rutgers, but with Penn State. Watch that unfold when Paterno is gone.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:21 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
T-Mac:
It wasn't me you were tryin' to explain "simple economics" to. That was that "silksheeter" Cape Code who lives off of his grandpappy's inheritance. You know that I've tried to sell my wife and kids for less than $20 bucks on this blog. The "simple economics" tells me that I would make more money if I sold them for cheap. So, don't throw me into the catagory of people like Cape Cod who don't know where the money comes from or even how they got it. In most of the world: "everything is for sale". This is no surprise at all. Have you heard Donald Trump doin' commercial's lately. Man, you'd think that guy would have enogh bling already, but I guess not. Well, good deal for Bama'.
Tommie T
T-Mac said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:22 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse?
Big Tide, I hope RR keeps Coach Kines as well. Everybody, quit hatin on a man who is moving forward in his life. Climbing the ladder. Providing a better life for himself and his family. What's wrong with that? People do it everyday. This is the Land of Opportunity right? With the talent at Bama I think Coach Rod is a great fit. Don't hate on somebody because they are moving ahead in life and have certain goals. If you aren't moving forward, you are moving backward!!! T-Mac
WVU will move on without the LIAR ROD said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:35 PM — 68.33.252.109 — link — abuse?
Nice Rod. You are an idiot. I hope you fall flat on your face because Bama will kick you right out the door after a losing season and please do not move back to WV - we don't need your kind here.
chris said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:47 PM — 141.213.245.250 — link — abuse?
To be honest, I am surprised Alabama could not land a bigger name. I wonder how much of his success was a product of a weakened conference. I know the Big East had a big year but it is still a pretty think conference. I also wonder how much different he will be than Shula. Obviously the offense is an improvement but that comes with the defense. He also had two players that were perfect for his system. I don't blame him for taking the money, but I also do not see him being very successful. He is a second tier coach compared to his competition (Myer, Tubberville, Fulmer). Time will tell.
T-Mac said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:56 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse?
Tommie, I didn't really mean you bro. I've been cooking for me and my roommates and I've been on and off of here tonight. It was more directed at So Cal. Calling the guy a fegg and a d!ck for leaving. What's that about So Cal? People do it everyday bro. It's just business man. That's all. So Cal, if another job offer came open to you at about 2 1/2 times your current salary than what would YOU do??? Would you take the job or leave it alone? Just curious. I'm wondering what you would do in that situation.
Tommie, you are right bro. Cap Cod Tom has had it about as easy as anyone I've ever seen on here. I'm giving him a fair chance here. T-MacCap Cod Tom '84 said:
posted on December 7, 2006 11:56 PM — 24.218.208.81 — link — abuse?
Tommie "C":
I can tell you are a glutton for punishment. Why else would you mess with my name like that?
My friends call me "the Intimidator." Perhaps this will dissuade you from poking fun at me.
My wife calls me horse, because I'm hung like a horse. A sea horse.
As for you, since I like you, from now on just call me...Mr. Wonderful.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:03 AM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
T-Mac:
Like me, I think So Cal is just a little concerned that money will come talkin' to Pete Carroll. I'm not looking forward to that day - and I really feel for any of the fans who have lost a good coach. People love their teams and want them to do well. It's real hard when there is a coaching change. I hope that West Virginia can find another guy to keep it rollin'. I really enjoyed watchin' those guys blast out forty a game. Kinda like watchin' Nebraska in the "old days". Hey, maybe Alabama is gonna return to the "wishbone" now. Man, did I like that offense at Alabama and Oklahoma.
Tommie T
T-Mac said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:07 AM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse?
Yeah, Cap Code Tom. Kinda like the exact same thing that Dennis Franchione did to Alabama a few years back after promising the players the world. CC-Tom, you didn't know what fegg mean't? Well, I guess we'll bring you along slow and teach you being as how we are all "hillbillies" as YOU put it.
People, relax. It's business.
So Cal, why the anger for Coach Rod Bro???
T-Mac said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:25 AM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse?
Tommie, I don't think Coach Carroll is going anywhere. I wouldn't think so. There is no reason for him to leave that program or that year-round climate in Southern California. Yeah, the Coach Rod thing is just like any other job situation. It's business. Not personal. Fans have got to learn to separate the 2. Maybe it's because I've been playin ball so long that I've become accustomed to it or something. Life is about Change. I think the Tide fans can pencil in a win in the 2007 opener against Florida State now. Lot of talent coming back. T-Mac
Cap Cod Tom '84 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:32 AM — 24.218.208.81 — link — abuse?
T-Mac:
You have the unique opportunity to view things from the professionals point of view. After all, you are a pro player. We, as fans see things differently. To fans, it ain't about money, it's about pride and loyalty as well as representation.
I still say if Rod goes to 'Bama. than he's a carpetbagger. No offense 'Bama, but if Navy offered him 3 million, he'd screw on you too. It's all about money and that's what I hate about our world.
I say it again...if Rod leaves WVU, then he's FEGG and a piece of Schitt.
WVU deserves better!
Cap Cod Tom '84 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:39 AM — 24.218.208.81 — link — abuse?
Hey Tommie "C":
#8. How's this for a silksheeter...my grandpappy was a Pennsyltucky coal miner that died in the hole in 1932. He left my father at age two, along with 9 other children. The first time my old man ever ate steak was when he left for Korea in the army. How's that for wealth?
As for me, what can I say? Rutgers educated me right. I made good of it. Or maybe I just got lucky.
WVU dad said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:46 AM — 71.255.225.234 — link — abuse?
He blew some some serious smoke up my sons butt to get him to come to WVU. Talked about family and how once you are a Mountaineer, you'll always be a Mountaineer. We believed his lines.. What a slap in the face!! Enjoy him Bama And his wife's fake Boobs too! I can't believe we turned down the likes of Beamer, Bowden, and Schiano(sp) for his B.S.!!!!
Tomcat said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:51 AM — 69.153.81.120 — link — abuse?
Happy for coach Rodriquez Roll Tide
Hey So Cal whats the matter dude? Who in their right mind would turn down such a great opportunity.To be the H.C. at one of the greatest traditional powerhouse football programs in the country. TCU 52 San Deigo St 0volstrike3 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:25 AM — 71.155.151.189 — link — abuse?
It was a no brainer. Better school, better facilities, better conference and twice the money. I do not see how anyone can fault him. He is stepping into a situation with some big expectations and I respect him for taking on such a big challenge. He better be ready to win, 8-4 is not going to be good enough for Bama Fans.
It will be interesting to see how well that gimmick offense works in the SEC. I thought Georgia figured it out after the first quarter of the bowl game last year but it was too late at that point.
Tuscaloosa Matthews said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:35 AM — 68.62.147.187 — link — abuse?
Hey guys, everybody who has an IQ over 70 knows that RR would be stupid to pass up the UA job. We have all of the money, facilities, staduim size, fan base, prestige, and not to mention players. He's going to turn bama immediately into a top 10 team next year. Just watch and see.
rod_is_an_idiot said:
posted on December 8, 2006 2:19 AM — 68.232.181.182 — link — abuse?
aparently i misjudged rod. he IS and idiot. yes bama is paying more but where is the job security. not only that but his contract with WVU gave him 1.1 mil with annual increases not to mention increases for every bowl, gpa increase, conference win, and an extra 600,000 just for staying past 2010. so technically it wasn't as much of an income boost as some people think. what i think is funny is the people who were all on the band wagon up untill now saying that that spread offense won't cut it in the SEC and now are saying "o he's such a good pick" screw you hippocrits. and to all those who said "common who wouldn't take that" i wouldn't for one. i have turned down jobs before offering double my pay before because peoples life shouldn't revolve around money. just ask rutger's coach he turned down the miami job who was offering something almost equivalent in terms of pay increase and he turned it down because there are some things that mean more in life. aparently not to rodriguez though.
shiguy said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:18 AM — 68.232.181.182 — link — abuse?
#26 WVU dad i'm sorry to here about what happened with you i really am. everyone at WVU/ west virginia is extremely pissed right now. we all feel very betrayed. wvu hired him not because they wanted just any new coach to make the program well. they hired him because he was a native, and they wanted someone who would be liked. they stuck with him for 4 years of loosing seasons and this is how he betrays them. f#ck you rod...trust me WVU Dad you weren' the only one i was as the fan fest when he brought his son and said to all of us "future WVU QB" ya right your ass better not ever step in the state again after this. and by the way WVU Dad with your loss i would just like to say reguardless of who coaches this team we have the best fans who will alwasy be there for the team reguardless of the season's outcome and i will be there next year chearing the team. i'll also probably be at the iron bowl go auburn!
BETRAYED said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:22 AM — 72.84.52.59 — link — abuse?
I am ashamed that Rich Rod use to wear the gold and the blue... I thought he was a bigger man then this. What happened to the ever popular once a Mountaineer ALWAYS a Mountaineer. Well RICH I am ashamed that you were a Mountaineer I thought you were a bigger man than that. Rutgers coach stayed with his team which has NEVER been good. 137 years it took Rutgers to get anywhere, but guess what Rutgers coach STAYED with Rutgers!!!!!!!!! I hope you lose all your games. Burn in hell. West Virginia is referred to as ALMOST HEAVEN! Well this heaven no longer welcomes you. You greedy ass bastard. I hope Auburn kicks your ass. In fact I will be there cheering Auburn on wearing my BLUE AND GOLD waving an Auburn shirt because I HAVE LOYALTY!!!!!!!!!!
Jim said:
posted on December 8, 2006 4:32 AM — 155.229.229.162 — link — abuse?
The Charleston Gazette is saying there is no deal yet according to Rodriguez, for what that is worth.
I don't think today is make or break because Rodriguez has not even visited the Alabama campus yet and people close to Rodriguez said he would want to do that.
There is also the fact that he told his players that he was not going to alabama, miami or anywhere else, I know it is twice the money and he knew that too when he told his players he was going to be there. Here is a link to the article.
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on December 8, 2006 5:03 AM — 68.48.90.67 — link — abuse?
Oh yeah! I just can't wait to hear about how the SEC's offense has improved so much!!!! But, While he was at WVU......he was simply coaching against weak teams. Just wait BAMA fans..... you will do well real soon. Rodriguez.........$uck my........
Dave F said:
posted on December 8, 2006 5:42 AM — 24.172.90.242 — link — abuse?
" i have turned down jobs before offering double my pay before because peoples life shouldn't revolve around money."
You, sir, are either a liar or a fool. Quite possibly both. I can see turning down a 10 or 20 percent increase if the new job sucked (even I've done that), but the only reason a thinking person would turn down a job *doubling* his salary, especially when we're talking MILLIONS, would be that he is confident that an even better offer awaits him.
That's why Schiano turned down Miami; he thinks Penn State will over him more when JoePa goes. Hell of a gamble, in my view, unless he's got inside information that JoePa is leaving this season or next. It's highly unlikely that he can sustain what he's built at Rutgers for any length of time. He needs to jump on an opportunity while he's on top, because he's not going to be there for long at a school like that.
Back to the topic, though: RichRod would've been a complete idiot not to have taken Bama's offer. Even though it's a crappy work environment (unrealistic expectations & no job security), he still stands to gain a lot. If he stays 3 or 4 years and gets fired, he'll make a boatload more money-- and we're talking millions in this context-- than he would've over the same period at WVU. Assuming he invests wisely, it won't even matter if he can't find another coaching gig, because he'll have more than enough to retire comfortably at a relatively young age. Or go work for ESPN with DiNardo and the other has-beens.
And people need to get over being pissed when a coach implies to the media that he's staying put, then leaves. That's just standard operating procedure. What's he supposed to do-- say "Why yes, I don't have another offer yet but I'm very interested in leaving here for more money"? Would YOU do that? Hell no. You always say you're happy with your job until you have another one secured. You have to cover your butt in case the other opportunity doesn't work out and you end up staying.
And I'll finish this silly rant by saying you people that think that things like loyalty and commitment to a program should trump money and opportunity are not living in the real world. Why should a football coach (or anyone else) show that kind of loyalty to an employer, when his employer would never show that kind of loyalty to him? WVU would fire RichRod in a heartbeat if it was in their best interest financially. If he stops winning, the program starts losing money and the fans start griping, and he's history. If YOU start costing your employer money and damaging their public image, you're history, too. They're not going to keep you around because you're a swell guy and you used to do a good job. Loyalty schmoyalty kids; this is business, nothing more.
Big Tide said:
posted on December 8, 2006 7:00 AM — 12.226.94.229 — link — abuse?
Excellent post Dave F. As an alumnus of UA I would like to dispute the fact that we are some crazed group of people that can't be satisfied. And beleive me, eating humble pie for the past 5 seasons has made a difference. If Coach Rod comes to T-town and does what he's done at every other school where he has coached he will be fine. Besides the money HE will make, he will be able to bring in the best assistants. All the great programs have great assistants. That is something he could not do at WV. It is worth noting that Coach Stallings was getting tired of the grind and while he may have been pressured out a few seasons too early his time was up. Dubose got canned for messing around with his secretary and paying players. Coach Fran left because he couldn't take the pressure of big time football. Mike Price would have been fired anywhere after he had already been reprimanded for drinking on campus and then goes on a stripper rampage. Shula is the only guy out of this bunch who was canned for lack of performance and let's face it, for a guy who's expertise was suppose to be offense he just never cut the mustard. He was over his head and I doubt you will ever see him coach again. I think RR has a great background that will fit well in Alabama. Son of a coal miner, etc. I hope he stays at Bama a long time and has a lot of success.
PSouthern said:
posted on December 8, 2006 7:17 AM — 71.226.162.161 — link — abuse?
You try to teach our kids about honesty and values. You tell the college football world that you have landed your "Dream Job" at home, at your alma mater, and you preach to your team that, "Once a Mountaineer, alway a Mountaineer." You may be doubling you salary and making a business decision, but you're a LIAR. You lied to your kids, you lied to your team, you lied to your recruits, who trusted you and made life changing decisions for you, and you'll lie to Alabama. It's obvious that's just who you are. I don't have a problem with you leaving...WVU football is bigger than you, it's just the cowardly, dishonest manner in which you pulled it off. I truely hope that you, as reported, didn't tell Steve Slaton that you weren't leaving. He's one of the many top-notch kids who got you where you are. Now you bailing on him and the team. You've won some football games, Rich Rodriguez, but you're a dishonest loser otherwise. Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya.
rod_is_an_idiot said:
posted on December 8, 2006 7:45 AM — 68.232.181.182 — link — abuse?
so i'm a liar or a fool Dave F??? really you sir are the fool. if he really wanted to do what u said and just invest money so that it didn't matter what job he has he could do that anyway. getting paid 1.1 mil with annual increase and benifit increases out the ass i would be happy with that. i know other people who would be happy getting that. the 2 mil at alabama comes with alot of expectation which if no delivered he will be dropped as fast as possible. o and about your WVU dropping him, you don't know anything about WVU football so don't even try to argue that. WVU hired him not as much because they felt that he would turn the program around quickly but because they felt it was a secure hire in someone people would love at the school. his predicessor was don Neyland so it's not like he had to turn something around, it was all ready good! in fact he didn't even start winning seasons till his 5th year at the school so there goes your argument about dropping him when its not profitable for the school. (by the way our fans still sold out the stadium when they were loosing seasons) if you're not from West Virginia or ever been there then you can't talk about anything in the state because you are ignorant.
1fan4WVU said:
posted on December 8, 2006 8:02 AM — 24.140.92.2 — link — abuse?
Waking up this morning and hearing that Coach Rod had accepted the job wasn't a complete shock. Certainly it is an opportunity, coaching in the SEC, making nearly double the salary, blah blah blah. My hunch is that he'll be wishing he would have never left Morgantown after that first loss to Auburn. Bama fans appear to still be living in the days of "The Bear". The fact of the matter is that Bama is no longer a top program. I believe that with Coach Rod's offense he will do some things in the SEC and possibly begin a great run at Alabama..............that is until someone else comes calling with a little change in their pocket.
Go EERS!
brad said:
posted on December 8, 2006 8:34 AM — 168.216.85.164 — link — abuse?
I would just like to take the time to say what a jerk Mr. Rich is...I hope Alabama has it's worst season EVER and I also hope he gets fired from there and is forced to go back to Division 2 schools to coach....by the way we will be selling our Gator Bowl tickets because of Rich Rodriguez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Asshole
Tom Blogical said:
posted on December 8, 2006 9:12 AM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
I have to admit that I'm pretty surprised over this one. I definitely made a mistake thinking that if Schiano stayed, Rodriguez would too.
I don't blame him at all for wanting to make more money and to coach at a legendary football school, but the guy was a WVU alum, he could've coached there as long as he wanted, and already made good money with incentives. All he needed was an improved defense next year and I think it gets pretty interesting over there as far as National Title hopes are concerned. He might've had the beginning of something special going there.
I'm not sure that once he's there he can sell the "once a Bama man, always a Bama man" schtick, since he did that at WVU. But hey, I've never coached or recruited anybody so what the hell do I know?
Whatever. We'll see who he hires as a DC now and if he can coach in the shadow of a legend. If he was looking for a challenge I think he definitely got one.
Now who does WVU want as they're next HC, and do they keep Rodriguez on for the Gator Bowl against Georgia Tech?
Jeremy said:
posted on December 8, 2006 9:17 AM — 65.82.138.66 — link — abuse?
I am here at work listening to the radio,
Rodriguez has called the Charleston Gazette and said He was still the coach at WVU and that he had practice today, now that just might last till noon but he has said that he did not agree to anything yet.I think he is gone but all my fellow moutaineers lets wait until it is official and the start talking about replacements
Go Moutaineers
AllEers said:
posted on December 8, 2006 9:40 AM — 162.129.250.4 — link — abuse?
Thank you Rich Rod for blowing the outrageous ego of the SEC out of the water.
Mark my words though...if Rod can't remain true to his alma mater...Bama is just another stepping stone.
Rod to the Steelers in 3 years.
His heart lies (literally) with the dollar bill.rebel1222 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 9:50 AM — 74.246.157.47 — link — abuse?
I know it has to be disheartening for WVU fans to lose their coach, that has built an excellent team and program over the last few years. You can't blame him for wanting to move on to a premier program like UA, in the SEC and out of the BIg East. Shula took us out of the sanction years. Now it is time to begin the ascent back into the elite programs in the country.
UA has a horde of talent on both sides of the ball coming back next year. Offense has been the problem under Shula and Rader. Now they will have a true offensive innovator at the helm. I just hope he leaves his Defensive Coordinator and that 3-3-5 stack in the mountian state. Auburn will have a down year next year.
Rich, please bring your offensive line coach with you.
The Tide should begin to roll once again!
Gerald said:
posted on December 8, 2006 10:08 AM — 216.113.128.239 — link — abuse?
What's you folks' problem? Rodriguez got you guys a BCS bowl victory back when everyone thought that the Big East would collapse and make WVU a mid - major like Marshall. He did his job at WVU. What, you lack confidence that WVU can attract another good coach or something? There are lots of good coaches out there. You could hire Patterson from TCU, for instance. Or Bud Foster from Virginia Tech. Coach Rod wants to win a national title, and there are too many hurdles to getting it done at WVU right now. Get yourselves a coach who is willing to stick with you for the long term and move on.
FanoftheGame said:
posted on December 8, 2006 10:11 AM — 12.43.234.14 — link — abuse?
I don't think anyone should be suprised by Rodriguez's decsion. I can understand the disappointment that the WV fans are feeling right now, but even they had to know that he would probably be leaving. Bama fans are likely to feel the same way in a few years when he leaves the Tide program to take over at FSU. As I said before; Rodriguez knows he's a few years away from being in a position to take over at FSU, so why not "cash in" while he can. If he really is the coach that everyone thinks he is then he's leaving the WV program in much better shape than he found it. I don't blame the WV faithful for being upset with him for leaving, but the Mountaineer program is probably going to be just fine.
PSouthern said:
posted on December 8, 2006 10:25 AM — 70.158.89.34 — link — abuse?
I cut and pasted this directly from the coachrod.com web site..... "A dream come true" is what Rich Rodriguez calls the opportunity to serve as West Virginia University’s 31st head football coach.
Since his hiring on Nov. 26, 2000, Rodriguez has approached the chance to head the football program at his alma mater with enthusiasm and appreciation.
What a coward!major harris said:
posted on December 8, 2006 10:31 AM — 168.216.208.215 — link — abuse?
he can't win a championship at wvu but he can at 'bama? please. what has bama done? you've got bear bryant, then forrest gump. recruiting is more cut throat, if he doesn't beat auburn you guys will be calling for his head. this is not a smart move outside of the money. i know i'll never be in a position where i have to decide on a million dollar raise, but to me, there's something to be said about coaching 30 minutes from where you grew up and the school where you played. once a mountaineer, always a mountaineer....whatever.
Cap Cod Tom '84 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 10:32 AM — 24.218.208.81 — link — abuse?
Hey Shiguy & WVdad;
Rutgers will be cheering for you next year. WVU will recover at some point. I don't believe your program will collaspe like Syracuse has.
I guess 1 million dollars isn't good enough for good old Coach Rod.
I don't think he'll be stepping into your state anytime soon. What a FOOL!
Jeremy said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:00 AM — 65.82.138.66 — link — abuse?
Hey Gerald
What you do not understand is that we thought we had the coach for the long term.
And the biggest fact IF he leaves he would have lied to the whole state and that is what makes us Moutaineer fans mad, The lies not just that he is leaving for another program.
it's better than it looks said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:15 AM — 24.49.152.135 — link — abuse?
as a wvu student i have respect for rod and what he did for WVU but im not sad to see him go...now bama gets to deal with his 3&1 shotgun draws for losses, awful playcalling with no adjustments no matter what happens....if wvu can't beat USF and gets challenged by a team like east carolina just imagine whats going to happen to his no-change, same plays all game long scheme in the SEC against LSU, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, well you all get the idea. good luck to bama and have fun running a spread without 2 guys in the back field that run 4.3 40's. wvu has a good enough program and 2 top heisman candidates so they shouldnt have a problem getting a quality replacement that can take them to a national title
AllEers said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:18 AM — 162.129.250.4 — link — abuse?
Gerald,
You are an idiot. He had 4 years that were less than spectacular and WVU stuck with him. He is alumn. He played for WVU. If he isn't willing to stick around; who is? I'm sorry, but the people who earned their degree and/or have grown up wearing Old Gold and Blue deserve to feel betrayed. The SEC doesn't understand the tradition of loyalty. The majority of the NCAA teams work to build a legacy and don't assume that they merely "deserve" that status.
Borolet said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:25 AM — 168.11.117.9 — link — abuse?
He will do fair to good, but the only question from the Alabama administration, boosters, and fans is can he beat Auburn? If he can't do so in 3 years, he will be out the door, just like Bill Curry and Mike Shula, neither could beat Auburn. It will take him 3 to 4 years to get the players in place that he wants and needs. By this time it will be to late after 3 Auburn losses. But he doesn't care, because it is all about the money. If they can him, he will be set for life, because he will still get the contractual monies whether he wins or loses. Shula got fired and still has to be paid 4 million by Alabama. (No need to look for another job anytime soon Mike). Of course the folks at Alabama obviously have much more money than they have sense.
C-DOGG said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:36 AM — 76.188.148.131 — link — abuse?
Major Harris (are you THE major harris...just curious.)
Were you in a coma and missed the 1992 Sugar Bowl? My Canes were upset for the national title by Alabama. I believe Bear Bryant was already in the ground. Can Coach Rod win a title @ Bama over W. Virginia?....of course.
EErful said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:39 AM — 70.88.118.14 — link — abuse?
Hey Rod,
Way to set an example for the young men who wear gold and blue. Honestly, is it really going to be worth it? I understand this may appear to be a good move for you, but I think you are really dropping the ball here. It is one thing to be honest and say that you are seriously considering rolling with the tide; it is another thing to deny it and lie outright. You have no character; I heard your very own words, "I plan to stay at West Virginia for the rest of my career" over and over the past few weeks. Your team, everyone associated with WVU, your fans, and your conference deserved to hear the truth. To be honest, all you want is to be coaching Pitt in the NFL; that is the only reason you're doing this back-handed deal. Fine! Get the hell out! I don't want you (unless your tied to a burning couch after a victory)if your heart isn't there. Hey maybe we'll get a coach who has a sack and goes for it on third and one! I have faith that Owen can get that yard; you obviously don't. Enjoy the money...I mean does your wife, Rita really need any more plastic surgery? I would answer, no! But hey, to each is own. To the REAL men and Mountaineers who play West Virginia football... we believe in you and I KNOW you can win a National Championship (defense, I love you, BUT please work on hitting and wrapping low) and Steve, you WILL win that Heisman! Mr. White, you have what it takes... you are a class act QB. Just trust yourself when you read the field! My point, don't sell out like Mr. money bags... WVU needs and loves you! GO EERS!! GO BIG EAST!!!! GO AWAY ROD!!!!
Bobby Dodd Disciple said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:45 AM — 168.9.26.153 — link — abuse?
You guys are missing the point. RR is doing this to prove to himself whether he can be successful at the highest level (apologies to the Big East, but you're not the measuring stick for success). He wants to see if his own abilities can stand up against a rugged conference, insane crowds, intense scrutiny, etc. Don't blame someone for trying to challenge themselves; and placing themselves in a vulnerable, yet potentially rewarding situation. Bravo Rich, for running the gauntlet!
You WHINERS are probably the type that live across the street from your parents in the same pathetic house for 50 yrs and have "my kid is an honor student at Joe Blow High" bumper stickers all over your car (even though little Johnny graduated in '82)! You work a dead-end job and the fact that RR has brought some success to your little town has given you hope that life exists in WV. Get over it
rebel1222 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:14 PM — 74.246.157.47 — link — abuse?
He can win with UA next year with all the talewnt he has coming back. Auburn's losing almost their whole O-line, both their tail-backs and half their Lb's, and their best corner back. They will have a down year and maybe a couple. Trickett could do wonders with bama's O-line. They can win in '07, no doubt.
shiguy said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:26 PM — 157.182.43.210 — link — abuse?
it never ceses to amaze me at how stupid the south is. go preach about how great your teams are to your alumni because frankly the rest the country doesn't care! i'm sick of hearing how rodriquez could never have done anything at wvu in the big east. if he would have gone undefeated this year we would be in the national champ. not florida. likewise now especially after 2 10+ winning seasons going undefeated next year would definately garner a championship bid. so i don't wanna hear about how the big east would not allow him to do anything. he will have a hell of a lot more time trying to do anything in bama where the players don't respect him. the conference didn't respect him and other than bama none of the other schools respect him. congrats bama you are now in the same boat as the white sox. enjoy your bought coach.
Randall said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:31 PM — 69.73.31.232 — link — abuse?
Everybody - CHILL OUT! Give RR a break. In coaching, like any profession, you have to make moves that advance your career and yes your bank account. Is that not what we all strive for? Are you going to turn down a management position simply because you are loyal to the people that you currently work with? Hell No. Bama has had its struggles too. We have had a coach leave in the middle of the night after he told his players and the media he was staying. (Coach Fran, Texas A&M) So don't direct your anger towards the Alabama fans. As Alabama Defensive Coordinator said in a press conference last week about the firing of Mike Shula, " College football is the best sport in the nation, however, sometimes it is not the best business." WVU should be proud of RR and how far he has brought your program. He decided it was time to move on and that is what he did. Did you plan on asking him for permission about your plans? So why does he owe anyone an explanation? Also, don't get too concerned about his comments in the past week. Yes, I will agree that he should have handed it a little differently, however, remember that he is still under contract at WVU until he signs with Alabama. He could not speak out about another school or express interest without subjecting himself to liability. Give him credit, he did not cancel any appearances to recruit or promote WVU football, he has been loyal up until the end. I wish WVU success in the future and I hope RR will help turn Alabama around. Only time will tell.
*Just a suggestion, remember you at WVU will be on a coaching search soon, so dont scare any prospective coach off be appearing to be rude and hateful fans.FanoftheGame said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:40 PM — 12.43.234.14 — link — abuse?
This is getting almost comical. Again, I understand why the WV fans are a little upset, but this isn't the end of the football world for WV. All of this bashing and criticizing of RR is coming from a personal level. If he had lost 7 games this year, the same fans who are reacting as if there daddy walked out on them, would be calling for his immediate firing. So he lied to you. So he led you to believe he was staying and he chose not to. Don't take it personal! You evidentally weren't a factor in his decision to leave so why should you care on such a personal level. We all agree that he wasn't completely honest with you guys, but whats done, is done. You should be making a big push for the WV AD to hire Mike Shula, to lead the Mountaineers to the NC game next season.......At lest that way the Bama fans can spend next year being mad at RR for leaving WV.(Actually, hiring Shula might just be the answer for WV football).
In any event, move on with your lives and keep your expectation high for your program. After all, your players are still there..........for now.WV Fan said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:43 PM — 129.71.236.78 — link — abuse?
I don't care Coach Rod leaves are not. I'm not upset about it. I wish him well at Alabmama.
C-Dogg what dog food have you been eating, dogging the Big East. Championships at Alabama, what in the HECK are you talking about? Bama was not been the same since Mike Price was caught in a strip bar, how many games did he win at Bama? Wasn't it Auburn who went 12-0 a few years back and did not get a chance to play for the National Championship? Didn't Flordia get a gift this year getting to play for the National Championship? You actually think that Bama has a shot at a National Championship, WHATEVER. You dogg the Big East and Alabama could not beat South Flordia, Pitt or Cincinnati.
ALABAMA WILL NOT play for the National Championship again.
C-Dogg did you happen to watch last years Sugar Bowl when WV ran on the SEC's Champion Georgia like a treadmill?
I hope next year that WV and Alabama play in a bowl so Slaton and White can run all over Bama and destroy that 3-3-5 defense that will be installed down in Bama country.
Have fun playing in Bowl games agaisnt New Mexico and Idaho in the next few years.
volstrike3 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 12:53 PM — 216.103.178.34 — link — abuse?
WVA fans,
Loyalty does not really exist in college football. Larry Coker was a Miami guy, won a National Title in his first season and then got canned when they were less than elite for two years in a row. CFB is a big business so throw your notions of "WVA pride, etc" out the window.
You need to learn how to deal with success. When your program is successful, your coaches get taken. Most schools in the top 10 are worried about losing their coach, OC/DC almost every year. When Tennessee won the National Title in 1998, we lost our OC, he left to be the head coach at Mississippi. It is just part of having a winning program.
EER10 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:19 PM — 129.71.238.253 — link — abuse?
It makes me sick to hear people say that RR built the WVU program !! That is in no way true.
DON NEHLEN built that program 26 years ago. Coach Rod,
have nothing good to say, so I will not comment on you. Jumbo Fisher at LSU will be WVU's new coach. The BS 3-3-5 Defense sucked anyway. Its time to get back to smack A$$ WVU "D" !!!!!Good Luck at Bama, NOT !!!
Dave F said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:20 PM — 24.172.70.186 — link — abuse?
Did he ever say "I will never leave West Virginia?"
I've never seen that particular quote. The quote I've seen says he's PLANNING to remain at WVU for his career.
Plans change. Or maybe all of you unhinged WVU fans have actually done everything you ever said you were planning to do?
As I said before, he said exactly what he had to say. When someone asks you if you're leaving your job, you HAVE to say you love your job and you plan to stay there, until you've actually secured another one. Otherwise, if you end up staying, you've got a lot of explaining to do. Or maybe each of you unhinged WVU fans always go and tell your employer right up front when you're out looking for other jobs?
You folks need to settle down. People quit their jobs for better jobs all the time. You'll hire another coach and your program will be fine.
Major Harris said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:24 PM — 168.216.208.215 — link — abuse?
just so everyone knows, because no one (myself included) is acting this way....this isn't a done deal. rumors are he's negotiating w/ wvu now. i'd find it comical if the hallowed U that is 'bama was none more than a bargaining chip.
Gerald said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:49 PM — 216.113.128.239 — link — abuse?
AllEers:
I am going to respond to you without sinking to your level of personal attacks.
"He had 4 years that were less than spectacular and WVU stuck with him." Yeah, like the 4 years previous to his getting hired were so great or something. Look, WVU was REBUILDING. WVU hadn't done SQUAT but get blown out in the Blockbuster and Continental Tire Bowl for YEARS before Rodriguez was hired. You had the undefeated regular season with Kelchner and Studstill in 1992, and you had one very good year with Marc Bulger, and that was it.
"If he isn't willing to stick around; who is?" Sorry, but pretty much everyone outside of Morgantown knew that the guy was going to leave soon. The guy was a hot property who could have virtually any job that he wants; college today and NFL where the real money is tomorrow. I thought it was going to be after he made a national title game first, but it may be that he thinks that WVU may not be able to compete with Louisville, Rutgers, and USF for the long haul. "I'm sorry, but the people who earned their degree and/or have grown up wearing Old Gold and Blue deserve to feel betrayed." Actually, since as I stated earlier the guy was obviously going to leave anyway, it is better for him to leave now, while you guys are still basking in the glow of that Sugar Bowl win and still have White and Slaton (particularly White, because even if Slaton comes out early White certainly won't) and can still attract a big name assistant or even a top small college coach. Had Rodriguez failed to take WVU back to a BCS game and White and Slaton left, he still would have been a top property to get virtually any other job, but you guys might not have been able hire another high profile guy to replace him. "The SEC doesn't understand the tradition of loyalty." Actually, the SEC does, and honoring loyalty and tradition was why the conference didn't do squat from like 1981 until Spurrier came along. The SEC became a top conference again only when they stopped taking care of the alums and lifetime assistants and started bringing in new blood; guys from other conferences (even the hated PAC - 10 and ACC like Rich Brooks, Al Borges, and Mark Richt!) and a bunch of NFL guys. Tennessee is pretty much the only SEC program with an old - time SEC staff. What the SEC knows about tradition is the same thing that big business knows: tradition gets you left behind.
Look, West Virginia can solve their coaching dilemma in five minutes. How? Paul Johnson of Navy. They already have the talent that Johnson needs to run his offense, and since Johnson is a true veer guy (rather than a spread option guy), no other program is going to want him because the passing game is what sells today. Get Paul Johnson, and not only will you get a guy who will stick around for a dozen years or so, but you will also actually get a better coach.
EErful said:
posted on December 8, 2006 1:55 PM — 70.88.118.14 — link — abuse?
Now that I have expressed my anger over this issue and his intentional lying (if the media isn't lying to us)... who knows! I apologize for my cruel remarks. I was emotional. Sorry. Regardless, I wish he and his family the best. I really hope this isn't actually happening... I can't believe coach Rod would do this!
Borolet said:
posted on December 8, 2006 2:01 PM — 168.11.117.9 — link — abuse?
Hold the Phone!! He may not be Gone!!!
Reports coming out of West Virginia state that Rodriguez has not accepted the Alabama job. He is still on the road promoting the Gator Bowl. He has not even been to the University of Alabama to check out the facilities. When he was being considered for the Texa A & M job before he took the WV job, he visited the place three times. Why would he want to take a job before checking more into the details and geting an agreed contract. These things take time. I still say he is using the Alabama job as leverage. WVU is now making a last ditch effort to meet or closely match what Alabama is offering in terms of salry. If you go to the WVU web site and note that most of Rodriguez assistant coaches are from WV. There roots are there. He is a native son and alumni. I don't think he would turn tail and run on his own, but he will hold out for more money and better facilities, as well better pay for his asst. coaches. He will get it, and stay in WV. The Alabama media do not have reliable sources in this situation. I'm telling you folks, it is not a done deal yet. Until you see Rodriguez at a press conference in Tuscaloosa, then it will be a done deal, and not until that happens, he will remain at WVU.
AirForceRanger said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:06 PM — 68.39.171.29 — link — abuse?
Dave F:
When you tell your players you have every intention of staying with your team and make repeated reports in the press then we have an issue to say it once but he did a smialar stunt with the NC "tarheel" job not dismissing the rumors at the start before the Lousiville game.. i really think this guy is far from a class act and don't know why he is so highly regarded his Offense is evolving all around the leauge and soon will be a common look.. but Major has a good point it could be a effort to get the most out of WVU time will tell...C-DOGG said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:22 PM — 76.188.148.131 — link — abuse?
Re: post#76,
Calm down bitter W.Virginia fan. Your team didn't exactly hold the crystal football trophy after the sugarbowl last year. The fact that someone took your coach is a compliment to what your favorite team has accomplished. The fact that your coach left is a reality check on how far the Big East still has to go.Chase said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:25 PM — 198.70.212.8 — link — abuse?
ESPNews is reporting that Rodriguez is staying at West Virginia.
Good news for all the West Virginia fans and I hope this gets rid of the animosity that is prevalent on this page right now.
As for Alabama, who's next? Maybe Paul Johnson at Navy? Maybe promoting Kines? Any ideas?
posted on December 8, 2006 3:25 PM — link — abuse?Jeff Quinton said:
Sounds like it's not happening now.
Look for Bama to make a push for Spurrier again with more $$$ and possible future considerations for Steve Jr.
C-DOGG said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:35 PM — 76.188.148.131 — link — abuse?
WV fan (Re:post#76),
You obviously must be new around here. Everyone that had been blogging here for at least 30 days knows that I am not an Alabama fan. All I am saying is that the Crimson Tide will win a national title (again) before ANY BEAT EAST school. Your conference proved on back to back Thursday Night ESPN games that they were not ready to play for a national title. Let me repeat what I said many times before (for the new guy)........NO BIG LEAST PROGRAM WILL WIN A NATIONAL TITLE WITHOUT V.TECH OR MIAMI. When they left, so did your respect & credibility. Are you the Big East or the "B" division of conference USA?
AU03 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 3:48 PM — 205.255.224.10 — link — abuse?
Major Harris, you are the winner (and notice I used a qualifying "if" in my previous post).
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/ncaa/12/08/rodriguez.stays.ap/index.html
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on December 8, 2006 4:07 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
These guys sure are good at "workin' a raise". Wish I could have it so good. Wondering if head coaches aren't promising a 50% payback to any University that will woo them so that they can cash in. Seems like a good way for AD's to raise funds. Otherwise, I can't understand what a lot of this is even about.
Tommie T
FanoftheGame said:
posted on December 8, 2006 4:23 PM — 12.43.234.14 — link — abuse?
Exactly Tommie!
This sounds more like a coaching auction than it does anything else........."Alabama has the bid at $2 million.....Do I hear $2.1 million?....Going once!.....Going Twice!.......$2.1 million to West Virginia!....Do I hear $2.2 million?........Going Once!.......Going Twice!........SOLD!! Congratulations to the Mountaineers on having the winning bid.clemson1981 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 4:40 PM — 74.226.196.203 — link — abuse?
ya know its really sad to see bama this low, now that coach rod withdrew his name from the hat, what does bama have left, maybe just maybe bama will see how the u went with the choice of keeping somebody from the staff on the team, i personaly think the joe kines would not be that bad of a choice for this team.
BuckiNut said:
posted on December 8, 2006 4:53 PM — 65.189.178.33 — link — abuse?
You EEERS fans should be ashamed. attacking coach Rod [and his family]. WVU dad, I hope Coach Rod and WVU is teaching your son better morals than you are at home. You should be embarrassed about the coments you made about his wife [post #26]. When you say things like that ooops never mind, just doesn't seem to be good enough. Think before you speak. It might come back to bite you in the a$$. Now you can all jump back on his bandwagon.
AU graytness said:
posted on December 8, 2006 5:10 PM — 71.70.187.29 — link — abuse?
My stomach hurts from laughing so hard...apparently Bama doesn't need Auburn kicking its rump to look like fools...they can do it all on their own.
This is the longest thread of fools ever!
I can't believe how many of you talked trash to WV WITHOUT THE HIRING BECOMING OFFICIAL!!!
Is Mike Price available? Perhaps Dennis Fran?
Your program has gone from being at the top...to being a national joke. Perhaps the "thumb" is just too much for you to take...or is it Auburn's perfect record on YOUR field. Shame on you for firing Shula.
WAR EAGLE!
bill said:
posted on December 8, 2006 5:17 PM — 68.220.194.65 — link — abuse?
I'm amazed at how quickly W.V. fans can turn aginst coach Rodriguez ! The only fans that I know of that can turn on a coach any quicker , are Bama fans ! Last year Mike Shula was a hero and this year ? Mikie boy is worthless , couldn't coach himself out of a wet paper bag !
My suggestion to any coach that would stupid enough to take the Bama job , save all your money , don't buy a house here and at the end of next season , start looking for another job !Mountaineer fan in South Carolina said:
posted on December 8, 2006 6:53 PM — 63.135.42.251 — link — abuse?
I was feeling pretty low when I heard that Coach Rod was leaving WVU for Alabama. It wasn't that he was leaving, but that it appeared he lied about the situation. I do feel much better now that he decided to stay and I hope he is able to get more money for his assistant coaches, too. Don't you think this is a heck of a way to get a raise? USC had to raise the bar for their coach and WVU had to also. Whatever coach Alabama goes after now, that university had better start passing the collection plate!
poz4ua said:
posted on December 8, 2006 6:55 PM — 68.62.147.180 — link — abuse?
AU graytness you are stink off cow sh$t now that's out of the way................Mal Moore, Bryant Jr., ans the Board of Trustees has turned Alabama into a joke. Bryant Jr. needs to go pick up a new hobby and drop the one he has now, ruining alabama, Mal Moore needs to fired, and the BOT needs to stick to their day jobs instead of trying to rule Alabama. AU graytness it's ok for people who are Alabama fans like me who actually go to school there or who have been fans their whole lives to discuss what is going on with our program . But pieces of cow sh$t like need to stick to their own business. I'm pretty sure theirs a cow needing to be milked and the horses need to be fed so get to work biotch.
goodolnuma5 said:
posted on December 8, 2006 6:59 PM — 24.208.149.244 — link — abuse?
post #124
C'MON!!! Why the hell would any former D1 QB be on this blog? The only people on this blog are sick college FB fans who pontficate wisdoms graunde to other sick CB fans............................................................except for me of course.
Andrew R said:
posted on December 8, 2006 7:34 PM — 151.213.250.28 — link — abuse?
WVU dad #26, WVU will move on without the LIAR ROD #13 Way to support your coach. How do you feel about him now that he is still there? You guys folded faster than superman on laundry day. He never said he was leaving and you already had his bags packed. Better tell your son to open his mouth as to let some of that smoke out. Is RR still a Mountaineer in your book, even though someone else started a rumer about him?
IRISH-THORN said:
posted on December 8, 2006 7:52 PM — 69.133.4.221 — link — abuse?
WHEW!!!!!!! NOW RR IS THE NEXT COMING FOR BAMA, OPPS SAY IT ISN'T SO. W VA FAITHFUL WERE READY TO BURN HIS ARS, SOLD THEIR BOWL TICKETS AND WISHED AUBURN TO FRIE HIS ARS. LET'S GET ALL THE FACTS BEFORE THE HORSES CROSS THE FINISH LINE. NOW WE KNOW HOW NEWSPAPERS MANIPULATE AND TRY TO CREATE NEWS. THE NEWS MEDIA IS THE GUILTY PARTY HERE. THEY PRINTED BS AND NOT FACTS.
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on December 8, 2006 8:00 PM — 138.162.0.41 — link — abuse?
Well guess what? I'm able to jump back on his bandwagon Buckinut. You know why? Simply because I never said he isn't a great coach. I just stated my anger at him leaving, it's as simple as that. Being pissed at someone for leaving your school........ and badmouthing the coach about his abilities are 2 different things. Think about it.
wVu 4-life said:
posted on December 8, 2006 8:20 PM — 68.233.195.189 — link — abuse?
I hope all of you so called Mountaineer fans can open your mouth and insert soap. All the trash you have said about The Coach all based on rumors and speculation? You beleive Mickey Mouse (ESPN) when he says anything. Like Mike and Mike in the morning are credible at all. One is too busy putting on makeup and trying to be hip and the other is a fat F*&! who was just concentrating on his 4th breakfast and telling old Notre Dame stories. I hope you poserrWVU fans don't go to the Gator Bowl. My wife and I will have a blast witout you Non-beleivers. Stay at home and try and run someone else out of town. We have a pretty good basketball coach too.
This is Precious Roy......Buy my hookers, Suckers!!!
Big East Fan said:
posted on December 8, 2006 8:47 PM — 129.71.136.86 — link — abuse?
#7 C-DOGG...I've been out of town. Work.
You just got punked....as did Alabama.
A Big East team wins the National title within 5 seasons. I never doubted Coach...I told my wife last night, I will not believe it until I hear it from Rod's mouth. I still gave 80/20 odds of Coach Rod staying.
There was no way Coach Rod was going to put on an Alabama hat and tell his family, fans, home state, Top 15 program, 2 Heisman candidates, etc. that he was leaving for a Southern Ho...He bleeds gold and blue.
EERful said:
posted on December 8, 2006 9:10 PM — 70.22.20.155 — link — abuse?
Post # 119 and all others like it,
I said some some harsh words earlier when EVERYONE was calling me and saying it was a "done deal" I kept saying, "no way, he's not going to do that right now. Perhaps in a few years after a NC win b/c he does want to go the NFL, but not right now, not with the team he is building" and then I heard ESPN say THIS AM, "It's official,Coach Rich Rod is the new head coach of Alabama." Well that really pissed me off!!! I was floored and I reacted. I did apologize for any cruel words in my response PRIOR to the news of him staying, but I neither jumped on or off any bandwagon!! I thought it was back-handed and down right shitty of him to leave under present circumstances. I was being honest; I will not apologize for that. I meant what I said, I don't want him in WV if his heart isn't there! I am thrilled with his decision to finish what he started and be a good role model to the young men who play WV football. I am thrilled he proved me wrong. I think he is a great coach, but I do feel he plays not to loose sometimes instead of playing to win, and my opinion stands on that subject, until he proves me wrong. I guess my season tickets will be going up in price next year...
WAR EAGLE # 107, FUNNY!!!
Gatorpilot said:
posted on December 8, 2006 9:36 PM — 71.42.27.135 — link — abuse?
What a weird ride that was.
Stay strange, WVU football. No one in the friggin' world can figure you or your coach out.
bamagirl4ever said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:10 PM — 70.146.239.44 — link — abuse?
wow. The WVU fans amaze me. They think Coach Rod is gone and they call him a "LIAR" and say "f#ck you" and "$uck my..." and all this stuff...and then he ends up staying and they are like "IN ROD WE TRUST". yeah right. I wonder how ur boy Rod would feel if he knew what was said about him. If I were him, I'd change my mind again and leave that place. Doesn't look like he's very much appreciated if they will turn their backs on him that fast...before its even FINAL.
I'll admit that I was VERY upset when I heard the news he was staying. It isn't right for the Birmingham News, Sports Center, and all the media to make fans think we've got a coach...and then 9 hours later, we are back to where we started. I can't wait for this thing to be over, but it seems there aren't any coaches left that are more than just decent. I guess we will have to see. I'll tell you one thing, I won't believe ANYTHING I hear until the ink touches the paper.IRISH-THORN said:
posted on December 8, 2006 11:58 PM — 69.133.4.221 — link — abuse?
THIS WHOLE THING WAS A PLOY BY RR TO GET WHAT HE WANTED FOR HIS PROGRAM. HE PUT THE SCREWS TO THE UNIVERSITY TO GET THEM TO COME THROUGH ON THE BUILDINGS AND PROGRAMS HE WANTED TO ADVANCE HIS MISSION THERE. I THINK THOSE IN SPORTS SHOULD GET A DEGREE IN THE SPORTING FIELD THEY ARE IN. IT TRULLY PREPARES ONE FOR LIFE FAR BETTER THAN A LOT OF DEGREES OFFERED AT UNIVERSITIES, AND THE POTENTIAL MONEY IS GOOD TOO.
AU graytness said:
posted on December 9, 2006 12:35 AM — 71.70.187.29 — link — abuse?
poz4ua..."you stink OFF cow sh$t"...good to see that Bama education paying off.
As an Auburn alum, I think it's fair to say that the Bama coaching search is our business.
After all, it's our team that got your last coach fired.Why would Rodriguez leave WVU where he has the chance to be the best in the Big East only to become second best in the state of Alabama?
Don't worry, we've given you all the thumb and are getting our other index fingers ready as I write this. It should be an easy win for Auburn...seeing as how you can't find a coach willing to come to Tuscaloosa.
PSouthern said:
posted on December 9, 2006 12:36 AM — 71.226.162.161 — link — abuse?
I feel I'm writing for myself and everybody supporting WVU who said or wrote anything negative about OUR Coach Rod. The premature reports said that he accepted the Alabama job, therfore turning his back on his "Dream Job" at his alma mater, the OLD GOLD AND BLUE. If you saw his press conference, he did no such thing. He is indeed a humble, genuine guy who loves his family, his home, and his alma mater. All he wants is improvements for his team, his coaches, and his fans. Oh, by the way, Mountaineer Field at Milan Puskar Stadium is awesome already. It will only be better! Alabama, I sincerely feel sorry for you and your program. Yes, you have won national championships in the past, and you have tradition, but RIGHT NOW, you are a middle of the road team. (I'll take OSU, minus the points). I know this, you know this, and Coach Rod knows this. WVU is a stronger program, and now that Coach Rod has stood by his word, we will be for a very long time. Good luck, Alabama in your search for a coach who can withstand the undeserved pressure cooker, but until you stand by a coach and not fire him before he gets his due chance, you will either miss the Bowl Season or you players will be playing in the "Whogivesash!t Bowl" before the ball drops in Time Square. I Love WEST VIRGINIA UNIVERSITY, Coach Rod, The Team, and "The Pride." I think T-Roy said it best........IN ROD WE TRUST!!!!!
AirForceRanger said:
posted on December 9, 2006 12:54 AM — 68.39.171.29 — link — abuse?
Yeah mountie fans we keep Coach Rod but for how long.... I hope he evolves as his offense is copied and defense schemes grow to stop a somewhat unstoppable spread offense.. But still in his press conference he even said he did not know what his decision was going to be until this afternoon it put all of us die hard gold and blue+bami fans on the edge of our seats...I don't think all of this was healthy but maybe the team can grow from it and have a renewed hope in the Gator Bowl and tackling next season.. I still think bama was a bargaing chip as Major said.. but the $$$ signs where in his eyes which still leaves a bad taste in my mouth how much do you need in by god WV to raise a family and be happy?? WVU is not the richest school by far but Football is the money maker for us and we need a winner like Rod so bring on Georgia Tech!!!!!!
JK said:
posted on December 9, 2006 1:04 AM — 69.76.195.58 — link — abuse?
And here's my concern for a stupid idea that I'd bet Bama is considering: "Hey guys, let's go hire the coach from the team we beat last year in the Cotton Bowl!" Yep, get ready folks! I'm tired of hearing about this guy, but Mike the "Leach", TTU HC, is a good possibility for the Bama job. Yuck! I'd rather eat road kill and have diarrhea all day! The Wyoming smart mouth was rejected by the Canes, and he's basically on the prowl for a better job than Texas Tech. We'd be happy to have him leave the Big Twelve, but sure hate to see him dumped on someone else! Have fun with this great "coaching mind" if he goes to a school near you! And turn down the volume on your TV when ever he's giving an interview!
Fan Agnostic said:
posted on December 9, 2006 1:49 AM — 57.250.229.136 — link — abuse?
re: 128
I know Ga. Southern and Navy are a couple of "non-power house" programs; however, since Paul Johnson won 2 National Championships at Ga Sou and has put Navy on the football map again, I think the selection of Paul Johnson could be "Jim Tressle"ish....so Bama fans if you get this guy don't despair. AUB & WVU you might want to look out if he gets the job at Babalama.
WVU fans - good to hear your coach did the right thing.....money isn't everything - I guess some people haven't had "that" boss. In this case, it would be "bosses" as the 'Bama fans for the boss.
cardfan-in-Oklahoma said:
posted on December 9, 2006 2:16 AM — 70.233.141.179 — link — abuse?
Congrats to all you WVU fans! RR is a great coach and I think he is great for the BIG EAST!! Being a Louisville fan I know how mad it makes you when you think your coach is leaving!But,for future reference... you might want to get use to the ideal that he might leave.As long as he keeps having winning seasons and keeping WVU in the national spotlight, they will continue to come after him no matter what his contract states.Just speaking from experience!
Tomcat said:
posted on December 9, 2006 2:37 AM — 69.153.81.120 — link — abuse?
Wow Coach That was a purty smooth play on your part. Now the WV faithful can rejoice.Everybody gets what they want and everybodys happy[ except Bama fans.
West Virg over Ga Tech
Okl St. over Alabama
Tex Tech over Minn
TCU over NIU
Tenn over Penn St.
A&M over Cal
Rutgers over K-State
LSU over Notre Dame
Rice over Troy
Auburn over Neb
Boise over OU
Ark over WisTrojanHorse said:
posted on December 9, 2006 8:58 AM — 69.175.172.47 — link — abuse?
I don't like RRod but I don't blame him, his trick worked like a charm and I am quite impressed; to use Bama to get the press that he is not going anywhere, stinkin genius.
The fact that he screwed Bama is even better, talk about a program that has no problem screwing others over, what goes around comes around and I love it.
LMAO just like the rest of the country at Bama
Big East Fan said:
posted on December 9, 2006 10:03 AM — 129.71.136.168 — link — abuse?
Well...hopefully Rod is here for a long long time. According to the Pittsburgh gazette...He's getting the facilities he wanted plus more in the future, assistant coach raises, nearly 2 million a year for himself, and WVU has includes put a 4 million dollar buyout clause in his contract. Signed until 2014.
Good job Coach Rod...Mountaineer Future looks very very bright.
easternfan said:
posted on December 9, 2006 10:40 AM — 67.72.98.93 — link — abuse?
I waited till the smoke cleared to make a comment, I hope some of the eer's fans are ashamed of their comments. Come on guys, do you have to live down to all the negatives people say about us West Virginians!
This shows a lot of typical SEC arrogance too! You guys think you can just buy anybody. I never heard Rod say anything except that he wanted to stay. this guy was negotiating more for his assistants and facilities than for himself. Alabama just ASSUMED that anybody coaching at WV would rather be at 'Bama. Bama your days as a powerhouse are over!
Rutgers, WV and UL are some new boys on the block, GET USED TO IT!
The Big East may just be the #2 BCS conf., at worst the are third.
Has anyone else noticed that all five BE bowl teams are favored.
HA HA HA TEE HE HA!!!!!!!willijo said:
posted on December 9, 2006 11:06 AM — 68.220.177.24 — link — abuse?
Somebody must answer to the fact that we as Alabama fans are embarassed. Is it Mal Moore or is it the fact that Alabama is not the job we all think it is. I think we need to start over, go thru the list of coaches again and up the dollars. One thing Alabama has are boosters that can pay. We need to realize that the past is the past and we need to give aliitle slack to whom we get. So either he can bring true stablity to bama. As a lifelong bama fan I am sick of being a footnote in college football. We need to slow down and make sure we get the best guy as well as the guy that can move us in a positive direction. ROLL TIDE ROLL
Poejoe said:
posted on December 9, 2006 11:26 AM — 68.232.145.70 — link — abuse?
Alabama is a great program with great tradition, but I believe they only have themselves to blame for the problems now confronting them. This started with the way they handled Curry and continued with Shula. Although a fact of todays college football (those few with all the cash and influence ultimately make the decisions) it is what is also keeping solid coaches from signing on to a program that has no patience for turning around their program. Ultimately, coaches and recruits who might be interested take a careful look before they make a commitment, not knowing what the next year will hold. Find a young coach with nothing to lose, and give them full support for the next 7 years or more and it will pay off.
gatorhippy said:
posted on December 9, 2006 11:46 AM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse?
Two things...
1) This is a smart decision on Rich Rod's part as the expectations at Bama are freaking astronomical while at WVU he can average 3-4 loss seasons with a one or two loss thrown in for good measure every ten years or so and never worry about being on the hot seat...
2) Bama better give Ken Stabler a call because he might be the only guy drunk enough to take that job...
Chris said:
posted on December 9, 2006 12:08 PM — 141.213.245.250 — link — abuse?
Easterfan:
You said the Big East may be the 2nd or 3rd best conference in the coutnry. I would have to strongly disagree. You are first of all assuming that a conference's strength is based only on its top teams. You need to look at top to bottom. But, for the sake of argument, even if you did look at the top 3 teams of a conference, the Big East has a way to go:
Big 10
Ohio St v. Louisville
Michigan v. West Virginia
Wisconson v. Rutgers
I really think the Big 10 would win all those games. Ohio St and Michigan would be blow outs.
Florida v. Louiville
LSU v. West Virginia
Arkansas v. Rutgers
I still like the SEC here
Oklahoma v. Louisville
Texas v. West Virginia
Nebraska v. Rutgers
I do think Rutgers would win, but as long as McCoy was healthy, they would win the other two.
USC v. Louisville
California v. West Virginia
Oregon v. Rutgers
I hate to say it but I still think the Pac-10 would win 2 out of 3.
You would win against the ACC.
Basically I have no respect for the Big East, but what has the conference done to deserve it? This is a simple matter of a power void in the conference where mediocre teams are winning more because they don't lose to Miami and Virginia Tech every year.easternfan said:
posted on December 9, 2006 12:39 PM — 67.72.98.94 — link — abuse?
Chris, your entitled to your opinion. As far as a power void that just aint so. Your B10 picks I may give you except for the blowout part. SEC, only FL and LSU would have a chance against UL, WV and Rutgers probably would lose to those two...but to no one else in that Conf. You said look at them from top to bottom. UC and South Fl could easily beat Penn ST, Ky, Purdue, South Carolina, Arizona ST, Texas Tech, Washington, etc.
1. SEC, 2 Big East, 3. Big Ten (they fade bad after the first 3)4. PAC10, 5. B12, 6. ACC. if you want to switch the B10 for 2nd, I would have to shrug a maybe.
As far as always losing to UM and Va Tech, actually in the 90's it was more Syracuse. The last 5 years WV was 2-3 to Tech but only beat UM twice in 11 years.
With the coaches staying these teams will all get better, and dont forget that at the bottom Pitt and Syracuse ARE traditional powerhouses that fell on hard times....they will return!
AllEers said:
posted on December 9, 2006 1:23 PM — 162.129.250.4 — link — abuse?
Gatorhippy:
I highly doubt that WVU will settle for 3 or 4 loss seasons now that Coach Rod is being paid SEC money. WVU is now a whole different ball of wax, that includes the probable, astronmical leap in the cost of my season tix...
Congrats on your raise Coach Rod, but can you eat the difference in the cost of my tix?shiguy said:
posted on December 9, 2006 1:59 PM — 68.232.181.182 — link — abuse?
i don't think that everyone here was bashing rodriguez due only to rumors. the big thing was at about 2am friday morning every single espn channel had a "breaking news" report that i quote "rodriguez has agreed in principle to the offer from alabama and will be leaving west virginia" now i know everyone else (other than people in WV)were not staying up all night glued to the television at that time but everyone in WV was that night. so when we all heard that that is when the rodriguez bashing because. and can you really blame them? everyone felt betrayed. however it was espn's fault for putting on television was a one sided rumor.
also Chris, you are such a bias ass. you think that all the big ten teams agains big east would be total blow outs. ok well look at cincinatti which actually was winning against OSU in the first half and OSU didn't even come out to play till the second half. same thing with VT. which brings up another thing you say that the big east is totally made up of mediocre teams that arn't beat by VT and miami. o wait wasn't that miami that got smeared by louisville?? granted miami is not a powerhouse team anymore...then again you're the one who used the weak argument in the first place. and as for what did the big east do to deserve respect hmmmm maybe defeat last years champion of your precious SEC who you think would beat ever big east team. now you'll argue that it was only by 3 points. except if you actually watched the game (doubt you did) the game ended with wvu having the ball on about 20 yards from the endzone. they just didn't want to risk an interception and loosing any respect that they might have gained. grow up and get out of your bias hierarcy mind set. it's old and noone other than the schools alumni want to hear about it. make way for the new upcomming schools and don't let the door hit ya on the way out!
Chris said:
posted on December 9, 2006 6:12 PM — 141.213.245.250 — link — abuse?
First of all, I am not an SEC fan. Besides that, I think this will prove my point.
09/02 Marshall W 42-10
09/09 E Wash W 52-3
09/14 Maryland W 45-24
09/23 at E Carolina W 27-10
10/07 at Miss St W 42-14
10/14 Syracuse W 41-17
10/20 at UConn W 37-11
11/02 at #5 Louisville L 44-34
11/11 Cincy W 42-24
11/16 at Pittsburgh W 45-27
11/25 S Florida L 24-19
12/02 #13 Rutgers W 41-39
And we wonder why WV has only 2 losses. I have nothing against WV, but I think it is clear that if a) they played in the old Big East or b) they played a real non-conference schedule, then they would have 3 or 4 losses. Just because Louisville played and beat Miami does not mean that the Big East is a tough conference, regardless of whether Miami is having a good or bad year. Likewise, just because the Big East beats Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, and Kansas St. in bowl games does not mean that the second generation of conference power houses has arrived. I am not biased, I just want more than victories over mediocre teams, a noble first half effort against a bored Ohio St. team, and "big" victories against each other.IRISH-THORN said:
posted on December 9, 2006 7:50 PM — 69.133.4.221 — link — abuse?
RR IS HOME TO STAY AND WV CAN GET BACK TO NORMAL. THE WV FAITHFUL WERE WOUNDED LIKE BEING TOLD YOUR WIFE IS LEAVING YOU FOR A RICHER GUY. IT HURTS AND YOU FEEL LIKE AN ELEVATOR HEADING DOWN W/O BREAKS. AS TO BAMA, THAT RICHER GUY, CHOOSE ONE OF YOUR OWN, WHO KNOWS WHAT BAMA TRADITION AND PRIDE IS. THE IRISH DID AND WE ARE THE BETTER FOR IT. PRIDE BEGINS AT HOME.
Rooster said:
posted on December 9, 2006 7:52 PM — 70.157.132.118 — link — abuse?
Bama really messed up in firing Shula. He should have gotten at least three more years. they will have trouble getting a good coach now for a long time. No one will want to give up any decent coaching job to go there for fear of being fired unreasonably. Hiring a young coach like Shula, especially with the probation/penalties, should have had an automatic understanding that it would take him 7 years to get going in the right direction. Goodness, they forced Stallings out after he won the national title. Bama needs to realize that THE BEAR IS NOT COMING BACK TO LIFE AND WILL NEVER COACH ANOTHER FOOTBALL GAME. GET ON WITH LIFE ALABAMA or pay the price for idiocy.
Randall said:
posted on December 9, 2006 8:51 PM — 69.73.31.232 — link — abuse?
BAMA FANS:
If you are serious about us getting a coach that might provide us with some stability and put us back on our feet, consider Gene Stallings. We have missed the window to hire a good head coach and it is now time for plan B. We have no leadership. We must first get our program stabilized before we move ahead and make even more stupid decisions.
Please e-mail Mal Moore, and ALL of the sports editors of newspapers and T.V. stations throughout Alabama. Tell them we want Gene Stallings and that he has said he would agree to take the job if it was offered to him.
Listen for yourself, Gene Stallings on the Paul Finebaum show:
http://www.finebaum.com/It is up to us. We can make it happen.
E-Mail These Guys:
Tuscaloosa News Sports Writers:
cecil.hurt@tuscaloosanews.com
tommy.deas@tuscaloosanews.com
andrew.carroll@tuscaloosanews.com
david.wasson@tuscaloosanews.comBirmingham News Sports Editor:
tarenberg@bhamnews.comHuntsville Times Sports Writers:
Sports Editor john.pruett@htimes.com
Executive Sports Editor bill.bryant@htimes.com
reggie.benson@htimes.com
john.ferry@htimes.com
paul.gattis@htimes.com
jim.magness@htimes.com
markcolumn@aol.com
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on December 9, 2006 9:07 PM — 138.162.0.41 — link — abuse?
Here's an excerpt from Rivals.com (I gotta admit you haad me scared for a while there......
MORGANTOWN--Citing issues of loyalty, favorite son Rich Rodriguez told his team Thursday afternoon that he is staying at WVU.Rod met with his team about 3:08 p.m. ET in the team room of the Puskar Center (after Alabama per ESPN had given him a 3 p.m. deadline to acquiesce).
Rodriguez left his office at the front of the building as athletic director Eddie Pastilong walked the other way. Trailing Rod were his son, Rhett, and daughter, Racquel, and wife Rita
Rich Rodriguez decided to stay at home.
Rita seemingly brushed a tear out of her eye as they moved into the team room chambers. Security was posted at the door. But when one loud applause came up followed by the other, the security even began to celebrate."He's gotta be staying," said one of the men.
Phil Brady, one of the heroes of the Sugar Bowl, had come out of another door of the Team Room and said, "He's staying. He told the team that sometimes there are bigger things in life than your career and one of them he is loyal. He said he was going to be loyal to the state that had brought him back and the university that had educated him.
"These were his exact words, 'There are certain opportunities a man gets in his life. This is one of them. I am a man of my word.'"
"We're still not done yet," Brady said he told a happy group of WVU Mountaineers.
Offensive guard Jeremy Sheffey was one of the first out of the room: "He said, he's here and let's move on," Sheffey said. "I'm glad he stayed. He promised me that he would finish the deal while I was here and he is.
"We're moving on."
WVU was scheduled to practice Thursday at 3 p.m. for the Jan. 1 Gator Bowl. Michael Fragale, a WVU athletics spokesperson, said a press conference had been called for the Puskar Center at 5:30 p.m.
Terms of Rodriguez's new contract, if any, were not disclosed. Apparently, Alabama had offered the coach in the neighborhood of $12 million over six years.
Jim said:
posted on December 9, 2006 9:28 PM — 70.35.250.191 — link — abuse?
Chris, post #165
The Big East may in fact lose all the games you spoke of, then again they may win every one of them. What has the Big East done this year that makes you think they would be blown out?
Your post suggests that you may not know what you are talking about, VaTech is a solid program but their last 3 years in the Big East they never finished higher than 4th. Sure Miami dominated but they would have dominated any conference in those days. Boston College was middle to lower half every year.
Your last comment shows your bias, hard to be objective when you feel that way.
C-DOGG said:
posted on December 9, 2006 9:38 PM — 76.188.148.131 — link — abuse?
Big East Fan,
Re: post#142,sorry buddy....didn't get punked. I'm not a fan of either Bama or West Virginia, therefore I could careless who coached either school. The only reason that I singled you out is because you had been taking potshots @ my Canes every chance you got. I was just looking to return the favor. No sweat off my brow....I still stand by my statements. Especially the ones that say no Big East team will win it all without V.Tech or Miami. When I am proven wrong in that area, then I'm punked ;0).
Borolet said:
posted on December 9, 2006 9:51 PM — 209.82.190.134 — link — abuse?
Folks, if you will go to the home page of this site and scroll down to the blogs titled Coach Rod interviews with Alanams. I posted on December 6, 2006 03:34 PM I am post #35. I called it back then that Coach Rod would not be going to Alabama. 2 Days before he turned Alabama down.
Randall said:
posted on December 9, 2006 9:52 PM — 69.73.31.232 — link — abuse?
BAMA FANS:
If you are serious about us getting a coach that might provide us with some stability and put us back on our feet, consider Gene Stallings. We have missed the window to hire a good head coach and it is now time for plan B. We have no leadership. We must first get our program stabilized before we move ahead and make even more stupid decisions.
Please e-mail Mal Moore, and ALL of the sports editors of newspapers and T.V. stations throughout Alabama. Tell them we want Gene Stallings and that he has said he would agree to take the job if it was offered to him.
Listen for yourself, Gene Stallings on the Paul Finebaum show:
http://www.finebaum.com/It is up to us. We can make it happen.
E-Mail These Guys:
Tuscaloosa News Sports Writers:
cecil.hurt@tuscaloosanews.com
tommy.deas@tuscaloosanews.com
andrew.carroll@tuscaloosanews.com
david.wasson@tuscaloosanews.comBirmingham News Sports Editor:
tarenberg@bhamnews.comHuntsville Times Sports Writers:
Sports Editor john.pruett@htimes.com
Executive Sports Editor bill.bryant@htimes.com
reggie.benson@htimes.com
john.ferry@htimes.com
paul.gattis@htimes.com
jim.magness@htimes.com
markcolumn@aol.com
Tomcat said:
posted on December 9, 2006 10:53 PM — 69.153.81.120 — link — abuse?
I'm happy for the WV fans and the Big East fans.
Youv'e got a proven winning program established.
#165 Chris give it a break dude check this out with the current system we have OCC games and Bowls and that is the way it is.XII vs Big E K-State vs Rutgers
My son and I both picked Rutgers in this one, We all saw the RU vs Louis and Louis Vs K-State
K- State lost to Baylor & A&MBig E vs ACC Louisville vs Wake Forest
We both picked Louisville on this one as well
Despite the injuries and upsets the CardsBig E vs Mac W Mich vs Cinn
We both picked Bearcats on this oneBig E vs ACC W Virg vs Ga Tech
We split on this one I like Chan Gaily and what hes doing, after beating the Hokies they lost to the Dawgs ? W Virgina and their running game will be hard to stop my pick MountaineersBig E vs Ind Navy vs Boston Col
We split on this one as well I picked B.C.Big E vs C-USA USF vs E Carolina
We split I got the Bulls my boy picked the Pirateswhen looking at the bowl matchups looks good for the Big East
No SEC No Big Ten No PAC-10 opponents
1- middle of the road XII team
2- ACC teams
1- MAC team
1 C-USA team
1 Ind acedamy team
Go out there and win your Bowls
Hookem-Horns Go Owls OU=SuxTomcat said:
posted on December 9, 2006 11:50 PM — 69.153.81.120 — link — abuse?
Sorry guys my mistake on post #182 Boston College is ACC, used to be Big East right?
My apoligies, here were we live we tend to follow Big XII and C-USA The old SWC teams
The Big XII bowl opponents
2- PAC-10
2- Big 10
2- SEC
1- Big East
1- WACBama Fan said:
posted on December 10, 2006 1:44 AM — 164.111.19.183 — link — abuse?
I do feel RR played Alabama to get what he wanted..and it worked..obviously coaches are not men of their word (works both ways) RR for NOT staying in WV and RR for saying he would take the job at Bama and backing out..like someone else said..a bidding war and WV won!Im glad Shula is gone..I watched him as a quaterback (not impressed) and he was not a head football coach (look at career in Florida guys!)Lets just hire a strong coach this time(Im all for Gene Stallings if he would take the job)This blog has so much negativity!! R O L L T I D E !!!
Cap Cod Tom '84 Rutgers said:
posted on December 10, 2006 10:22 AM — 24.218.208.81 — link — abuse?
Diggs:
You're right about that. The media played us like a bunch of boneheads just to sell newspapers and make money. Boy, did I ever buy into that! Next time I'll wait before passing judgement.
I must be in the wrong business.
posted on December 10, 2006 2:45 PM — 205.188.116.133 — link — abuse?
Craigo: The skeleton in Petrino's closet is that he once was an assistant (OC) at Auburn. He might as well have syphilis. Auburn has no problem taking coaches who have coached at Alabama. It's a one-way street however. I don't think anyone at Bama would ever admit it though...
r said:
posted on December 10, 2006 9:29 PM — 74.130.121.56 — link — abuse?
sec sux...now they just need to realize it..
HAHA rod spurning sec alabema How many national titles??Me thinks Pittsburgh has more with "9" and they gets their but kicked regular in B-East!!Oh NOOO Schiano tells U of MIAMI to get lost..Hmmm Big EAST comes a callin..Florida get ready to get stompe d by ...lets say 40>>.What type of spin will inbred Mayer have ???lets watch.../ National title has already been played: OSU won by "3" AT HOME sEE YA NEXT YEAR!!shiguy said:
posted on December 11, 2006 12:09 AM — 68.232.181.182 — link — abuse?
not to mention that petrino already turned down an offer to coach the oakland raiders last year. what makes you think he's gonna go for a different college when i'm sure they were offering a LOT more than anything a university is willing to do.
FSU_True said:
posted on December 11, 2006 11:17 AM — 168.82.56.100 — link — abuse?
Ok let's not pretend Rod could not get run out at WVU in this day and age. Stop acting like WVU would be any different for him if he performed like Shula. WVU is the same university that ran out Bobby Bowden before he put FSU on the map. Also people need to stop trying to convince big east fans the conference sucks. Not like many of you know what your talking about anyways, being you think the ACC is done for... Yeah the greatest all around athletic conference in the country won't be back in college football, don't worry (Sarcasm). As long as these people have teams in the Big East they are going to think it has something to offer, that is natural. I realize that looking at the Big East you must think "OMG what is wrong with these people, why can't they see this conf. is a total joke" but you won't convince them so please stop trying. It is high time that any blog that mentions the Big East and any other conf. stop immediatly digressing from interesting conversation into everyone talking about how much the BE sucks and 4-5 rabid big east fans pointing out some pathetic victory or how they chased some team around in the 1st half. When you are pointing to Cincinatti's complete lack of success against OSU and VT as examples of the BE's rise you're obviously completely intransigent and discussion becomes pointless (in CF all that matters are W, but if you want to look at scores, Cincinatti was soundly defeated on both counts).
Now on to the actual TOPIC of the THREAD:
Alabama does seem to be getting some Karma but I seriously doubt RR would have been a good choice anyways. Why doesn't anyone consider Navy's Paul Johnson more carefully? Do they really think he will bring the triple option to Alabama? Besides, if he did, high school style football is having some success at florida... and he is certainly successful at Navy! Think about the impossible recruiting dilema!gatorhippy said:
posted on December 11, 2006 11:25 AM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse?
AIIEers (#168):
No matter how much they pay a coach, WVU will always have a problem recruiting...
This equals a great run every 8-10 years (2005) followed by 2, 3, 4 loss seasons in between...
Maybe WVU is setting Rich Rod up for a firing three years down the road then...
volstrike3 said:
posted on December 11, 2006 12:19 PM — 216.103.178.34 — link — abuse?
gatorhippy,
I am with you on that. A great recruit with several options will probably not choose to spend 4 years in Morgantown, WVA and I don't think there is enough local talent to compete nationally on a regular basis. I think Rutgers is in the same boat. The only schools in the big east with a chance to be a top 10 team on a regular basis would be U of L and USF. U of L is pretty much there and USF has a long way to go.
Jim said:
posted on December 11, 2006 1:49 PM — 68.87.100.61 — link — abuse?
FSU True post #193,
Very hard post to follow, looks like you wanted to say the Big East isn't any good, that boat is full and as the Big East keeps winning you would think it would empty some but it hasn't.
volstrike3 post #195,
Morgantown, Knoxville, which is better. If you can convince a recruit to come to Knoxville getting him in Morgantown wouldn't be that hard. You are right, as a life long West Virginian I can tell you that local talent is sparse, only 1.8 million people in the state. On Rutgers being in the same boat you are totally wrong, there is enough talent in New Jersey to make Rutgers a force for many years to come. Penn State used to live off NJ recruits, if Schiano is there in 10 years you will see, we will all see.
gatorhippy said:
posted on December 11, 2006 3:41 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse?
Jim (#196):
Been to both K-Ville and Morgan town...
Party wise just about the same...
But for football recruits, there are HUGE differences between the two...
One of the most notable being a stadium that holds over 100,000 vs 60,000...
Zac said:
posted on December 11, 2006 3:56 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
I am surprised at the anti-Coach Rod rhetoric upon our hearing he was considering AL's offer. I've asked this question before. What good leader doesn't at least listen to and consider all the options before making a decision? AL being the storied program, rich in tradition, that it is, why wouldn't Coach Rod give them an ear? Don Nehlan gave him a chance. Rod, in turn, has given other kids a chance. When did he become so great that he wouldn't give AL a chance? I said it in other blogs; I believed he would stay. I also said I would be disappointed if he left; I even used the defection of BC, Miami, and VA Tech, and the pro Big East rhetoric by their combined administrations as an example as to why I’d be disappointed. I doubt seriously whether or not he listened to me. And, it's likely he played the system for more money. Bottom line: This is no where near as big as "Dewy Wins", when Truman was elected President. Rodriguez is staying at WVU; AL needs a new coach; it's time to move on.
As for you Big East "nay sayers", such as my buddy, Luke and his Gator Mates, or Chris from Blog 165, neither WVU nor the Big East as a whole needs nor even seeks your respect. They'll earn it on the playing field. You're biased; we all know it; it's cool; that's what this blog is for. That having been said, even if any Big East team beat any SEC team every time out, I don't see it changing your minds. And, that's OK too.
C-Dogg: I'd like nothing better than to see VA Tech playing WVU year-in and year-out. Whether or not WVU plays your Canes makes no difference to me, although in recent years there have been some decent games between them. While I'd like to see at least a couple more teams in the Big East, I don't thing they have to be Miami or VA Tech for a Big East team to win the title. So, here's to your being “punked” some day. Till then we can only wait and see.
volstrike3 said:
posted on December 11, 2006 4:05 PM — 216.103.178.34 — link — abuse?
Also,
Comparing UT to WVA is not really accurate. The cities may be similar but the facilities, tradition and game day atmosphere are not even close. Tennessee has won more big games and put far more players into the pros. UT struggled in 2005 but they still have one of the highest winning percentages of any program in the past 10 years.
As far as rutgers goes, they will be able to keep more in state talent but the best of the best (Dwayne Jerrett etc.) will still want to go to a top 10 program with better facilities, tradition and climate. You cannot compare Rutgers and Miami in terms of their ability to land big time recruits.
Jeremy said:
posted on December 11, 2006 5:40 PM — 65.82.138.66 — link — abuse?
Here are some recruits that some people on this thread think the moutaineers can not get
VictorAnderson RB **** Soft Verbal- others TENN, KY and LOUISVILLE- Hometown Louisville KY
Eain Smith S **** verbal - Auburn, Flordia, Flordia State Nebraska, Pitt, Virgina
Ellis Lankster CB **** Verbal - Memphis, Ole Miss, Miss State, Southern Miss
Gino Gradkowski C **** Verbal- Pitt, Toledo
Junius Lewis DT **** Verbal - Georgia Tech, Minn (He's From Morgantown)
Charlie Russell **** Verbal- Kentucky, Nebraska, NC State, Michigan (From Morgantown)
These are good recruits don't tell me WVU can not recruit, and taking the running back thats from Louisville and two hometown boys. Look WVU has just started making some noise.
Due you realize that Avon Cobourne rushed for more yards in a season that Slaton, and you never heard his name. Now the recruiting is going to pick up on Scouts.com WVU is sitting with the #11 class we in WV have never been part of this it is getting exciting.
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on December 11, 2006 5:57 PM — 68.48.90.67 — link — abuse?
gatorhippy, as far as recruiting goes..here's "some" so far:
Victor Anderson, All purpose back: #6 position ranking overall
Donny Barclay, OL: #38 position ranking overall
Sidney Glover, Safety:#33 position ranking overall
Gino Gradkowski, OG: #21 position ranking overall
Vince HArris, LB: #53 position ranking overall
Rodney Hudson, OC: #16 position ranking overall
Terence Kerns, RB: #15 position ranking overall, and a 4 star Recruit.
Derek Knight, Safety: #23 position ranking overall
Ellis Lankster, CB: 4 Star Recruit
Junius Lewis, DT offered by GT and Minnesota (straight out of Morgantown)
Kyrus Lanxter, WR offered by Louisville,Minnesota, Ole MIss and Vanderbilt (came right out of Alcoa, Tenn.)
Brandon Hogan, Ath: Offered by UK, Maryland, and Marshall, Recruited by VT also
Julian Miller, DE: #35 position ranking
Evan Rodriguez, Safety: #30 position ranking
Charlie Russell, Pro Style QB: #22 position ranking (straight out of Morgantown)
Eain Smith, Safety: #24 position ranking, Offered by Auburn, Georgia, Nebraska, Pittsburgh, South Carolina, and Wisconsin
Chad Snodgrass, OG: 6'3" 302 lbs. (from Nitro,WV)
Bradley Starks, Dual Threat QB: #13 position ranking Offered by Iowa St. and non-other than *Tennessee*
Morris Wooten, Inside LB: Coming from Glendale, AZ
6'1" 235 lbs. runs a 4.6 40 yard dash
That's not all of our recruits so far..... but as you can see we are still recruiting top notch Dual threat QB's, even Top Pro Style QB's,and we are really emphasizing our weak secondary this year with all our Great Corners and Safety's we are getting for 07'. Not to mention our always deadly RB's.So far we are #24 OVERALL in the NATION in Recruiting, and it's only going to get better before recruiting is over.
As far as QB's we are ranked #13 overall.
As far as RB's we are ranked #10 overall.
As far as WR's we are #47, we need to get better at that position, we will.
TE's we only use for blocking, so it's not really a factor.
As far as O Lineman go we are ranked #20 overall.
As far as Dt's go we are ranked #37 overall (I know we need to improve there)
As far as DE's go we are ranked #42 (need more recruits but recruiting season is far from over).
As far as LB's we are ranked #53 (but we are recruiting hard for LB's we'll do alright).
The big one.... as far as DB's we are Ranked #3 now....and we all know what will happen as soon as they're on the field.... remember last season? Simply a great Secondary it was, and when these recruits get out there, they could be the best in the Nation.
As far as Ath's go: we are ranked #24 overall. and those guys can play RB's, Corners, even one can QB.
Now to Tennessee's recruiting so far...I know you got us beat at the #5 overall ranking and all.....but for 3 star recruits..... Tenn. has 14, WVU has 14, as for 4 star recruits Tenn has 5 WVU has 2.Tennessee has 23 commits so far
WVU has 23 commits so far also.
We don't have any 5 star commits yet and probably won't get any, but we seem to do pretty well with what we get huh?All of these rankings came straight from "Rivals" if anyone is wondering?
volstrike3 said:
posted on December 11, 2006 6:11 PM — 216.103.178.34 — link — abuse?
Diggs,
I do not fully buy into the rankings myself but they are an indicator of the athletes you are getting on campus. A lot of kids get overhyped while there are some sleepers in there. I don't think Slayton was a 4-5 star guy but he turned out ok. R Rod is obviously a good coach and you will be able to get some players. I never said you wouldn't. You will have trouble competing head to head with the nations top programs. WVA does not have the history, facilites, or location to draw the best players in the country year after year. If RR or Shiano really wanted a shot to win a national title, they would have taken the job at Miami or Alabama.
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on December 11, 2006 8:50 PM — 68.48.90.67 — link — abuse?
All you WVU non-believers..... go check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ih3M4hD_A
This is last season, I know that it's only going to get better once we get a good secondary.
This vid gives me chills!Jim said:
posted on December 11, 2006 10:07 PM — 155.229.229.162 — link — abuse?
volstrike and gatorhippy
You have very good and valid points but it all boils down to this, the only difference between UT and WVU that matters is money, period. UT and almost every other team in the SEC has more, WVU stepped up last week, coach Rod knows what it takes to win a national championship and you can bet he got that guaranteed or he would be at Alabama right now where money is no object.
Where and how did Miami get to where they are, the state of Florida has always had good football players but where was Miami before the mid 80's, what happened, they were about to scrap football, instead they spent money on it. BOOM, something like 5 nat'l titles in 15 years.
What about Nebraska, they don't have a recruiting base, I think Tennessee and Florida have had enough whippins handed out by Nebraska that we don't need to go into that.
It can happen anywhere if you put the money into it. And as far as gameday atmosphere, it doesn't get any better than Morgantown.
Diggs-great videos, you are the man.
WVU1FAN said:
posted on December 11, 2006 11:11 PM — 69.217.151.189 — link — abuse?
hey CARDFAN-IN-OKLAHOMA- Good luck in the Bowl game!!! By my calculation, you guys should do well. I think WVU should do pretty well. I think the best bowl game out of the Big East will be South Florida and ECU. Most of the folks on here are not college football fans (they only know how to repeat what they see on ESPN),God forbid they come up with a thought on their own.
I have been watching ECU for about 10 years now, just like I started paying attention to UofL 4 years before they joined the Big East. It would be nice to see ECU in the Big East in the near future. Not sure when people on here will stop ripping on conferences and start looking at the teams and the players. I bet alot of people, who rip on RR, saying he is not as smart as we think he is, do not know that alot of other teams send their coaching staff to Morgantown to RR seminars. Either people do not know that or they will not admit to it. GOOD LUCK IN THE BOWL GAME AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU GUYS IN MORGANTOWN NEXT YEAR. Unlike alot of fair weather fans on here I will be in the stadium no matter if we go 10-1 or 3-8.Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on December 12, 2006 2:18 AM — 138.162.0.45 — link — abuse?
volstrike3,
Here's a little excerpt from our WVU athletic page about our facilities:
Training in the terrific facilities (22,000-square-foot strength center at Mountaineer Field is the largest in the country) as well as two other facilities on campus, the options are almost endless for Mountaineer athletes.
West Virginia players can utilize more than $1 million worth of training equipment at weight training facilities at Mountaineer Field, the WVU Coliseum and the WVU Shell Building.At Mountaineer Field, more than 20 tons of weights and dumbbells, 40 pieces of HammerStrength equipment, 20 cardiovascular pieces, eight power racks and seven Olympic power platforms, supervised by a pro-level staff up-to-date in training techniques and skill development.
WVU has one of just two facilities in college football with a 1/13th mile track and a three-lane 40-yard straightaway, all of it circling inside the weight room. The Caperton Indoor Practice Facility is an all-weather environ for year-round conditioning, and in the heat of summer, there's no challenge like going behind the press box and running the infamous Law School Hill.
From the glass weight room, you look right out onto the playing field - no better place and no better motivation to get in shape for Mountaineer football.
Now I don't know where your getting your info from about our facilities? All Rich Rod was doing was milking WVU for a bigger paycheck. If somehow he manages to get more money from the University to improve an already "OUTSTANDING FACILITY" at WVU? Well then,... that's just that much better for our already committed players, and future recruits.Now if you think I'm making this facility thing up? Just google: "WVU weight room facilities"
and click on the paragraph that says WVU Athletics.
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on December 12, 2006 4:51 PM — 68.48.90.67 — link — abuse?
Jeremy,
"The renovation plans, including a study center and locker rooms".
“There are some situations there that Rich would like improved and we’re going to improve them,” Pastilong said. “That project’s going very good. It’s on track and I’m pleased to say that will be done in the near future.”
These are words from WVU's Athletic Director: Ed Pastilong himself.
So yes Jeremy, you were right on with the Private Study Hall. According to Pastilong it should be finished in the near future. Lets Gooooooooooo Mountaineers!!!!
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on December 12, 2006 4:57 PM — 68.48.90.67 — link — abuse?
Jeremy,
Here's what has been accomplished so far with the upgrading facilities idea:About half of the funds for the $2 million study center have been raised. Fundraising for the $4 million locker room renovations, which include a redesign and expansion, is just getting started, Pastilong said.
The university recently installed new turf in its indoor football facility and in October opened a 3,000-square-foot area dedicated to the history of Mountaineer football.
The turf at Milan Puskar Stadium, installed in 2002, also will be replaced next spring with a more updated version.
Also, about 350 club-level seats are being added to the stadium as “part of our expansion and opportunities to generate revenues to continue the facility improvement,” he said.
Dr. J. said:
posted on December 12, 2006 7:13 PM — 70.149.165.124 — link — abuse?
Hey, why not Mal Moore as coach of the Crimson Tide? Wasn't he the offensive coordinator when Bama was the only team running the wishbone who also had success passing? Doesn't sound to me like he didn't know what he was doing.
Jim said:
posted on December 13, 2006 8:18 AM — 68.87.100.61 — link — abuse?
How 'bout the 2 unanimous All-Americans for the Mountaineers. I wonder how many they would have if they could get good recruits in Morgantown like they do in Gainesville and Knoxville. What, UT and UF only had 1 All-American between them, say it aint so gatorhippy and volstrike3.
Coonskin caps off to Dan Mozes and Steve Slaton.
stkbrkr said:
posted on December 13, 2006 12:20 PM — 72.84.52.61 — link — abuse?
hey i read the noteon 165about the big ten being a good conference or better than the big east , what have you been smoking, of the teams wv played this year ,maryland,east carolina , cinn,usf,uofl,rutgers all winning recoreds and all bowl game bound, if the bowls weren't so biased 2 of the 6 bigten teams would stay home, wis had three of 11 wins against teams with winning records, and i would take u of l over mich or osu,or wis any dayu for any money, i don't i would take mt alma mater wvu over mich, or wis , but i think we would lose to osu, i would take rutgers over mich, wis but not osu, and after those three teams in the big ten the drop off is precipitous, sec i don't think we could beat any of the top 4 teams there no matter who represented, but every other conference pac ten, acc, is in our dust, we have the best young coaching talent in the country and will never be second to the pansy acc ever, miami winning a nc is a pipe dream as in in a pipe and smokin it, va tech please , bc, those are the best teams in the league and they all got kicked out of the big east so whenever your ready to give away your money we'll be more than happy to take it
Borolet said:
posted on December 13, 2006 12:33 PM — 168.11.118.47 — link — abuse?
Food for Thought and for whatever it is worth.
Some have mentioned Hoover High School coach Rush Probst. If you are going to think about a high school coach, what about Buzz Busby. He is probably one of the only coaches in the nation to win a state championship in 2 states. He has had a winning program wherever he has gone. This guy knows football. He won a state championship while at Central High in Tuscaloosa, came to Statesboro,Georgia(Statesboro High)and carried his teams to the state each year, and won a state championship. To hear him talk he even has the gruff voice of a "Bear" Bryant. He needs to be considered. Trust me this guy knows football in and out and would be a great candidate.
If not him as I have stated before, Paul Johnson of Navy.(Also coached in Statesboro, GA at Georgia Southern a Div. I-AA powerhouse). Some say he cannot make it in the SEC by running the triple option. Hey, it has worked wherever he has been. The triple option is a modified wishbone that Alabama ran in it's glory days. Think about it folks!
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on December 13, 2006 2:03 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
stkbrkr:
I'm gonna take it as that means "stock broker". Well, with your fearless forecasts of Big 10 teams losing to all BE teams - remind me to never place any of my holdings with you. I figure you must have bancrupted many poor folks by now.
Tommie T
wareagle524 said:
posted on December 13, 2006 4:11 PM — 63.162.186.206 — link — abuse?
stkbrkr:
In response to post 219.
Were you drunk at noon when you wrote that?
Spelling and punctuation must not be big on Wall St.
I thought I was reading something my 6 year old wrote.
Did someone steal the "." button from your keyboard?
Just kidding...kinda.Zac said:
posted on December 13, 2006 4:21 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
gatorhippy: Just FYI, since you asked the question... Note: These are Consensus All Americans; I didn't have a chance to check 2nd team, 3rd team, honorable mention, etc.
The last 10 years: 4
History of the program: 11
Granted, these are not earth shattering numbers; likely, FL has more. What I like is the trend. Only 2 are prior to 1982. (To my surprise, neither was Sam Huff nor Jim Braxton, though both were an AA’s.) Since 1982 there've been 2 in the 80's, 5 in the 90's, and the latest 2. Given what WVU has done with what they've had, not to mention what they have, I don't think that's at all bad.
Zac said:
posted on December 13, 2006 4:35 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
Borolet: I almost forgot your comments. I fully agree! In fact, it just so happens a member of Coach Rod's staff came directly from a winning TX high school program. The guy's one hell of a recruiter; one of his recruits was that kid from Daphne, AL.
I think if AL says to heck with the big name coaches, and goes after a couple of no name lesser conference coaches with proven records, and supports the one they land, well... In a few years we may all be sorry.
hokie4life said:
posted on December 14, 2006 6:33 PM — 64.128.214.5 — link — abuse?
these universities that USED to be dominant live in the past and dwell on that success!!! who'm am I addressing do you ask? Alabama and Miami in particular - lets all face the fact college football today has become extremely competitive - any given Saturday most any team in college football can play competively and occasionally beat the higher ranked opponent look at the ACC this year who would have thought Wake Forest would be ACC champs??? wish I could go back in time and put money on that one!!! bama and miami need to come back to planet earth, find a promising coach, and STICK WITH HIM!
shiguy said:
posted on December 15, 2006 10:25 AM — 68.232.181.182 — link — abuse?
i really hate to agree with a VT fan but i agree with hokie4life. u guys should have been the ones we're playing in the gator bowl not GT. and GT should have been playing georgia. what where they thinking huh? 2 instate rivals in a bowl rematch, and 2 10-2 ranked major rival teams. but no we're just going to miss match them so that it is one over dominant team versus an unranked team. nothing against GT at all but think about it wouldn't that be tow more entertaining bowl games?
posted on December 15, 2006 11:52 AM — 152.163.97.156 — link — abuse?
War Eagle 524, stockbroker isn't actually a stockbroker. I think he's an attorney. Why? Because his post reads like a legal description for commercial property--a run-on sentence that goes for half a page.
Initially I skipped his post because the format looked like gibberish. Only after everyone started ribbing him about it did I make an attempt to read it. I still couldn't tell you what he said.
wareagle524 said:
posted on December 15, 2006 3:58 PM — 63.162.187.217 — link — abuse?
#226 hokie4life:
Well put.
In the past Bammer ran away with everything due to a depth chart that wouldn't quit.
If your 3rd string halfback was a highschool All-American, then you look pretty strong for years to come.
Now the level of play has stepped up a great deal, this has evened out the playing field...and makes for great football.
I however hope Bammer never finds a coach, that would be a nice Christmas present!Tommie Trojan said:
posted on December 15, 2006 4:47 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
War Eagle Atlanta:
My "gibberish" is also a little weak. But, I was able to determine, as I had plenty to smoke and drink at lunch time (so I could relate), that "stkbrkr" made the claim that the Top BE teams would beat all the Top Teams from every other conference in the country - except for the Top Four teams from the SEC. So, you SEC'ers ought to really think he's smart. I still wouldn't give him one nickle from my kids piggy-bank to invest though. He also stated that he was a West Virginia grad - I think.
The key to understanding that kinda "gibberish" is to get extremely "plowed" before you attempt to read it. It all makes good sense then.Tommie T
posted on December 15, 2006 4:59 PM — 152.163.100.196 — link — abuse?
This War Eagle hopes they do find a decent coach, and fast. I don't want more excuses why they're no longer the top dog in the state this century. Besides, a good Alabama team does nothing but elevate the Auburn program if you think about it, provided that we take care of business in the SEC and the Iron Bowl.
Borolet said:
posted on December 18, 2006 11:50 PM — 209.82.190.134 — link — abuse?
ROLL TIDE CHRISTMAS
T’was the end of the ’06 football season
Things weren’t right. What was the reason?
Six losses and Mike Shula had been fired
Tide Fans wondered when a coach would be hired.
The ‘Bama nation couldn’t sleep as they lay in their beds
While visions of National Championships danced in their heads
The team with Kines their interim leader in tow
Were headed to Shreveport for the Independence Bowl
All across the nation the alarm had sounded
‘Bama needed a head coach and one that was well rounded
To the internet I surfed in a flash
Looking at posts, blogs, and all the other hash
Ohio State and Florida were going to the BCS Bowl
While the Tide was unranked and feeling pretty low
When what to my wondering eyes did I see?
As I left my computer and turned on my TV
A gray headed man at a podium standing tall
He was holding a press conference for one and all
Hoping he would get to the situations core
I knew in a moment it must be Mal Moore
In a southern drawl the coaches he did name
My hope was the mention of one of winning fame
On Saban, Spurrier, Johnson, Grobe & Stoops
Now Petrino, Chow, Fisher; and Rodriguez?...OOOPS!
To the very top of the polls, we want it all
Back to the glory days of Frank, Gene & Paul
Board members, boosters, trustees & alum did fly
Searching the entire country as they took to the sky
In their private planes and jets they all flew
With plenty of money and Mal Moore too
Then this whole thing begin to look like a spoof
As no answers were found and Moore became aloof
As I turned off my TV and was turning around
I became sleepy and decided to lie down
Falling fast asleep on that night
I dreamt of a man in Crimson & White
He was broad at the shoulders and wore a hounds tooth hat
He paced up and down the sidelines and never sat
His face was weathered and his eyes they were stern
His facial expression was one of concern
He called out some plays in a voice quite gruff
I knew he had a big heart even though he was tough
His will to win was amazing by far
As he mentioned Namath, Stabler, Musso & Starr
A gleam in his eye and a quick turn of his head
I realized it was the Bear, but wasn’t he dead?
He spoke no more and went back to work
Distributing trophies and honors, then turned with a jerk
And as he laid a finger aside of his nose
Ascending to his tower, I looked on as he arose
He sprang to the blocking sled, to his team blew the whistle
And quietly disappeared like the down of a thistle
But I heard him shout as he was gone from my sight
Roll Tide Roll, and to all a good night
Zac said:
posted on December 19, 2006 5:23 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
Borolet: Most imaginative and amusing to be certain. Just one problem: No new Head Football Coach for Bama.
Rather than the Night before Christmas, I’m reminded of the Wizard Of Oz; toward the end where Dorothy says, "Oh, I don't think there's anything in that black bag for me." This is probably more like what you and the rest of the Bama faithful must be feeling like. Problem is this: There's no wizard to help you guys out of this jam. Wisdom is the only tool left to solve this problem. A rare thing is wisdom. Those who have it should be grateful. I can only hope, with the rest of the Bama faithful, those who are in position to make the final decision are blessed with it. Sooner or later, we'll see. Till then (Keep in mind; I’m a Mountaineer fan.), here’s one for the Bear. ROLL TIDE!!!!!
Borolet said:
posted on December 19, 2006 11:21 PM — 209.82.190.134 — link — abuse?
Zac and all others: Here is a preview from Rob Daniels of the Greensboro, NC News_Record
PetroSun Independence (Oklahoma State vs.Alabama)Here's more info on the
Alabama, Dec. 28, ESPN): Mal Moore, athletics director at Alabama, will be accepting applications for the position known as Head Football Coach outside Gate 2. Applicants should be neat, on time and dressed in red. Management opportunities available. Must have own transportation or be willing to provide it to players.Zac said:
posted on December 21, 2006 8:11 AM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
I'm telling you Bama guys; give Terry Bowden a try. Auburn's loss could be Bama's gain. He's got the tools, talent, experience, and a proven record. I don't know why any institution would hesitate in at least sitting down with this man.
clemson1981 said:
posted on December 22, 2006 10:06 PM — 74.226.219.73 — link — abuse?
12 natonal titles and growing post 237:
im a loyal dolphins fan, and when saban got there iw as in full support i still am, i can see him there a long time, but if he leaves its not going to be till he goes tot he playoffs in miami, so more than likely two more years (once culpeper gets healthy again) so for now hire bobby petrino, or jim grobe.BamaFanSince3 said:
posted on December 23, 2006 11:55 AM — 24.140.55.49 — link — abuse?
Saban is not coming nor does Bama need him as a coach he's unstable and would be gone to the next high bidder. I'm tired of hearing his name.Paul Johnson -Head Coach - Navy - He has a record of 99-34 over all and 35-14 the last 4 years at Navy After a 2-10 mark in his first year he has brought the Midshipmen back in to the national spotlight with a 26-11 (.703) record over the last three years. The Mids' 26 wins over that time span equals the most in school history over a three-year period. He handed Jim Tressle a nice loss a few years ago at GS 54-29. There's some other good fits to, much better fits than a Nick Saban.
BamaFanSince3 said:
posted on December 23, 2006 12:09 PM — 24.140.55.49 — link — abuse?
I also like Chris Petersen - Boise State head football , Jimbo Fisher LSU assistant, Jim Grobe (he's not interested) Pat Hill - Hill is currently the head coach at Fresno State University , Mike Riley - Orego St., Jeff Bower - Bower has been at Southern Miss for 16 seasons, and has had only two losing seasons in that time , I like John Gruden but I beleive he prefers the pro game. I like some others too. But I'm a big fan of those old school style disciplinarians, hard nose types. Coaches that preach heart, cause I beleive that's what the collge games all about. Roll Tide!!!
Borolet said:
posted on December 23, 2006 1:32 PM — 209.82.190.134 — link — abuse?
Sources in Miami are filing this bizarre report. For those who want a new athletic director and who also wanted to keep Mike Shula, you might get your wish.
Here is what is currently going on. Nick Saban has become close friends with Don Shula the former Miami Dolphins head coach. Of course Don is not real happy in the way that the U of A let the favorite son go. Current talks are bypassing Mal Moore and going directly through President Dr. Witt. Saban may agree to come to Alabama provided changes are made in the chain of command. First the aging gray haired 67 year old Moore must step down as athletic director. Secondly, Mike Shula be placed back on staff, either as an offensive coordinator, (where by the way he would not be calling the plays). However, it may be asked that Shula take the place of Mal Moore the man who fired him.
Under those terms will Saban consider the job at Alabama. Hopefully this will come to fruition, as worked out by Dr. Witt and his staff.clemson1981 said:
posted on December 24, 2006 1:45 PM — 74.226.219.73 — link — abuse?
Bamafansince3 is comin with it,
good point but its like you said saban would go tot he highest bidder and who is that now BAMA but i do not think he will be leaving anytime soon, paul johnson is a great coach but i see him at navy for a long long time, go after petrino, or jimbo fisher, that be a good way to get back at LSU for everything over the years, but i still think joe kines your DC would be perfect but thats a non bama fans opinion. just hope soon you guys are back in the natinal spotlight again, ive always like bama kinda,gatorhippy said:
posted on December 24, 2006 1:52 PM — 70.121.108.137 — link — abuse?
Zac (#248):
It was a great win...
I watched at the local watering hole with a good friend of mine that happens to be a Buckeye...
We'll be leaving on Jan 4 for Vegas then onto Glendale on the 7th...
Gators really shut down the inside, but I believe we haven't seen OSU Center Oden at full strength with the cast on his wrist still, but he couldn't keep pace with UF on the inside as the game went on...
UF has alot of big man depth; OSU has only really Oden...
Corey Brewer is freakin insane and Horford had a huge day coming off the ankle injury...
Perhaps UF just needs to be put in big games in order to produce in the fashion they finished the season last year...
Either way I'll take it...
Now if the football team can pull off a miracle in Glendale...
Major D said:
posted on December 31, 2006 12:06 AM — 128.107.248.220 — link — abuse?
Well the season is FINALLY over.
Although the Tide showed signs of pulling off a win in the Independence Bowl late in the 4th quarter, 3 previous quarters of essentially flat playing couldn't be overcome. Final Score: Oklahoma 34, Tide 31. Seems that Joe Kines didn't discover any magic mix of players or play formula for success either.....
A painful end to a painful season. Painful because every Tide fan knows what the UA football team SHOULD do most of the time they hit the field. Painful because every Tide fan knows what the UA Athletic Program SHOULD have done when it came to handling "perceived" Mike Shula performance issues. One lack-luster season do not a firing make. Where is the love of 10 and 2?
I sincerely hope Mal Moore, and the close circle of Tuscaloosa blue-bloods that regularly contribute funds to UA then expect some degree of influence, begin to really feel the heat of a prestigious coaching job nobody now seems to want. If the recent flurry of announcements is any indication the temperature may already be rising.... Was there every any doubt the UA football program required a "Proven Head Coach (insert your definition here)??? Nothng like stating the obvious when things go from bad to worse and the fickle finger of blame seems to be turning to point in your direction. Let me repeat, Oklahoma 34, Tide 31...... And we STILL dont have a "Proven Head Coach" in our sights.
I think it's time for Mal Moore to step down (every dog has it's day, Mal has had his with a string of successful improvements to show for it...uhhum, except for this one.) and UA needs to re-examine the Who, What, When, and Where of its football program and who controls it. Painful, for sure. But it seems to be the season....
Happy New Year Bama!
Cheers,
Major D
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So Cal USMC said:
posted on December 7, 2006 10:47 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?What a Fegg.