November 12, 2007
Live elephant coming to Alabama sidelines?
The University of Alabama scoffs at your tiny, live mascot.
The Crimson Tide have already coughed up an elephant-esque contract to football coach Nick Saban, so expanding the budget for a new mascot shouldn't be out of the question, right? So it would seem.
During a joint session between the First Year Council and the SGA Senate, the two bodies passed a resolution that will research bringing a live elephant to campus during football games to add school spirit.
Take that Smokey, UGA, and Mike the Lion.
Comments:
GA Boy said:
posted on November 12, 2007 9:12 PM — 97.89.26.241 — link — abuse?
UGA VI would still take a piss on the beast's leg right before the elephant trampled him. Hasn't anyone in Alabama ever seen that episode of "When animals attack" with the circus elephant killing everyone in a rampage. Those jokers in Bama got nothing to do but come up with dumb ideas like this. Famous last words of a Bama redneck right before he dies in a freak accident, "Hey watch this, bubba!"
GO DAWGS!
Sweet Home Alabama said:
posted on November 12, 2007 10:31 PM — 75.120.246.143 — link — abuse?
Careful GA Boy, did your mascot took a bite out of an Auburn player'ss leg last year?
Someone told me that the phrase most often heard in Georgia is, "git off of me daddy you're crushing my cigarettes". :-)
Rusty Shackleford said:
posted on November 12, 2007 10:57 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Uhhhh, no Georgia crap this weekend made me angry at my quitting auburn team. Hey Bama fans, I think we need Michael Vick to come help us out a lil' from this weekend. (cough) (cough) Nobody say anything about that either, I love the falcons and I want Vick back out on the playing field where he belongs.
posted on November 13, 2007 10:40 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
I'm pretty sure that care for the pacyderm would fall to the Auburn University Veterinarian Department. Maybe we can paint it's toenails orange and blue for the Iron Bowl.
GA Boy has a good point. The risks involved in having an animal this big outweigh the benfits. Don't think the NCAA would allow it.
TE: I can't believe you're giving Kevin a pass on 'Mike the Lion'.
Seminole Jack said:
posted on November 13, 2007 11:38 AM — 66.147.117.53 — link — abuse?
I may be asking a dumb question here, but I have wondered this for years.
If your school is the Crimson Tide, where does the elephant come from? What does an elephant have to do with Crimson Tide.
Just wondering
jonsey said:
posted on November 13, 2007 12:28 PM — 167.197.127.130 — link — abuse?
#20
it comes from the early years of football. when the alabama players came onto the feild one time, someone in the stands said that it sounded like horses galloping, another person said that they weren't horses, they were elephants!!
Zac said:
posted on November 13, 2007 2:06 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
I'll tell you one thing. You'll need more than a shovel and a wheel-barrow to keep up with it. Not to mention, what's up with all you GA pots, calling the AL kettles, "Black"? Trust me; when you're a native New Yorker like me, a suthunah is a suthunah; yawl all soundz da same ta me.
But seriously folks, I agree with GA Boy and War Eagle. The risks far outweigh the benefits in this case. You really need to have a well raised young animal, which, if it got a little too rambunctious wouldn't cause too much damage.
Elephants are both intelligent and extremely sensitive creatures. They have to be well treated and cared for. Not all of them are Circus Savy. A stadium containing over 90,000 screaming fans may not be a suitable environment for either the African or Indian variety. Since you can't cage one like you can cage Mike the "Lion?", I personally wouldn't recommend it.
Oh, Autigerman (Post 23), PA St has Nittney's. I don't know what a Nittney is.
gatorhippy
posted on November 13, 2007 3:19 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
Zac (#24):
Too true...
Elephants of both types are extremely difficult to maintain in captivity...
Along with the intelligence and sensitivity issues, elephants are also a familial species and do much better in capitivity when surrounded with others of it's kind or at least some type of non-threatening species as a companion...
That being said...
Why not a live bear?
It would cover one of the program's great coaches who in himself has risen to iconic and closely mascot fame between the nickname and the houndstooth...
A bear would be easier to keep in captivity with an environment similar to Mike' biome-like suedo habitat confines...
And a bear will more than likely fare better either on some type of restraining device with handlers or possibly a cart like transport also similiar to LSU's live mascot...
"Bryant the Bear" could be a financial windfall in marketing possibilities for the Tide...
posted on November 13, 2007 4:51 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
AUTigerman: Leave it to old War Eagle Atlanta to know more about the Crimson Tide program than their fans do. Here's the story:
When the Tide was making all those Rose Bowl appearances back in the 1920s and 30s under Frank Thomas and Wallace Wade, some booster had purchased luggage for the players to travel with. The logo for the manufacturer of the steamer trunks was an elephant, and some folks in Pasadena saw that and naturally assumed it was the mascot of the football team, thus it became so.
I am liking the 'Bryant the Bear' thing though, Gatorhippy...
Sweet Home Alabama said:
posted on November 13, 2007 5:20 PM — 75.120.246.143 — link — abuse?
As usual these things get blown up really big. Nothing was said about an elephant on the sidelines.
"During a joint session between the First Year Council and the SGA Senate, the two bodies passed a resolution that will research bringing a live elephant to campus during football games to add school spirit." The quad is not a part of Bryant-Denny stadium.
Sweet Home Alabama said:
posted on November 13, 2007 5:25 PM — 75.120.246.143 — link — abuse?
WEA means well. Sometimes he just doesn't know what he means.
"The elephant's association with Alabama dates back to the 1930 football season when the Crimson Tide was led by Coach Wallace Wade. There are two stories about how Alabama became associated with the elephant.
Officially, following the 1930 game versus Ole Miss, Atlanta Journal sports writer Everett Strupper wrote:
"At the end of the quarter, the earth started to tremble, there was a distant rumble that continued to grow. Some excited fan in the stands bellowed, 'Hold your horses, the elephants are coming,' and out stamped this Alabama varsity. It was the first time that I had seen it and the size of the entire eleven nearly knocked me cold, men that I had seen play last year looking like they had nearly doubled in size."
Sports writers continued to refer to Alabama as the "Red Elephants" afterwards, referring to their crimson jerseys. The 1930 team shut out eight of ten opponents, allowing a total of only 13 points all season. The "Red Elephants" rolled up 217 points that season, including a 24-0 victory over Washington in the Rose Bowl."
posted on November 13, 2007 5:36 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Not to mention any euphemism of a menstrual cycle...
No, Sweet Home, the story I attributed above I heard from the mouth of AD Mal Moore, on TV.
I'm sure, like many college traditions, there's always a multitude of answers to the question of how they started.
posted on November 13, 2007 5:47 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
True enough, Sweet Home. And I don't know that I believe any of them. Perhaps a combination of two or more.
I could go into it more, but when they hand you your diploma, they ask you not to discuss it with anyone...
gatorhippy
posted on November 13, 2007 5:54 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
SHA (#32 & #33):
I didn't mention anything about Bama changing their mascot...
I simply suggested they "officially" adopt what is already an "unofficial" mascot and icon of the Bama football tradition and legacy with my "Bryant the Bear" suggestion...
Which certainly makes more sense on both fiscal ends of expense/revenue from a business standpoint...
The "Bear" would be cheaper to maintain than an elephant and give UAt another marketing option to bulk up their merchandising revenue that would certainly be on level playing ground with Big Al; if Bryant merchandise didn't surpass the elephant all together...
While, admittedly, a "gator" is not exactly "cuddly" in it's real life form...
It can easily be softened up in charicature to appeal in a "cuddly" way; which has been proven by the sheer amount of revenue "Albert the Alligator" merchandise brings in annually for the university...
The same cannot be said for an algal bloom...
There is just no way around it...
And given that the costumed "Big Al' didn't appear until 1979...
It seems that Bama administration was on top of the marketing and merchandising trends that were beginning to grow and be capitalized on in every form of business in the late '70s...
So really, SHA...
I would say that adapting mascots for marketing purposes is right up the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa's alley...
Seriously, "Bryant the Bear" would be a financial windfall for UAt...
How do you achieve "cuddlizing" algae so dense it chokes the life from marine species unfortunate enough to habitate its reaches?
posted on November 13, 2007 6:15 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Gatorhip: You mean Washington and Hackman?
Oh, and don't even get me started about what crimson tides do to oyster prices...
Sweet Home: What is that movie about? I looked on imdb.com but they had no plot synopsis for it.
Cane Mutiny
posted on November 13, 2007 10:05 PM — 65.12.247.141 — link — abuse? said:
A live elephant seems a little bit overkill... Even if this wasn't a very spirited school - which it is (see 90,000 at spring game) - putting an elephant on the sideline?? Sounds like a circus act to me. Why not perform better on the gridiron, if you want to add to school spirit?
gatorhippy
posted on November 13, 2007 10:48 PM — 70.121.185.56 — link — abuse? said:
SHA (#44,46,47):
Yes, I meant Gene, Sweetie...
And the submarine was christened the USS Alabama...
The title of the movie, Crimson Tide, is a play on the actual name of the sub (again the USS Alabama) coupled with the plot where international nuclear holcaust is bordered upon while Washington and Hackman vie for control over the release and detonation of a nuclear missle...
The under water nature of the submarine and its potential nuclear capability to become the initial bloom of "Crimson Tide" that would sweep across the planet as nuclear war spread...
SHA, sure the thread was about the idea of bringing a live elephant mascot into the stadium and I surely did suggest Bama adopt a live bear rather than an elephant...
However...
I also pointed it out as an easier and more economically sound alternative for the university to adopt which; like the elephant or algal bloom used to lvoingly or figuratively personify the team; could be similarly adopted and used as an example, tribute and marketable personification to one of it's most iconic and beloved figures...
And as I said before, it wouldn't be the first time the University of Alabama added a mascot to capitalize financially...
However, you certainly do seem to be displaying your "superior" Bama history knowledge with the cut-and-paste description of the "elephant" moniker from the school's athletics web site and your immediate thought of a submarine movie as the origin of UAt's nickname...
Bryant the Bear would be proud...
Perhaps if the school opts not to follow my advice and continues to pursue the live elephant, we could come up with a new slogan in place of "Rammer Jammer Yellow Hammer" or "Roll Tide Roll"...
Maybe...
Send in the clowns...
gatorhippy
posted on November 14, 2007 8:58 AM — 70.121.185.56 — link — abuse? said:
SHA (#50,51,52):
"Of course one can tell that there is no way the above was a cut and paste."
Just point out where and reference the site...
"What a great writer you have suddenly become!"
I actually always have been...
Call it a gift...
"Anything that we came up with would be better than that juvenile "gator chop"."
See that's the problem...
While UF's traditions and nicknames were all direct products of student and staff minds...
Bama had to rely on sports scribes in order to even find a nickname and mascot...
Perhaps UAt should come up with their OWN ideas rather than relying on outside sources to make up for the lack of inspiration...
"Chomp, chop, chew whatever, it's still very childish."
Yeah...
Most fan antics are...
So what's your point...
gatorstud said:
posted on November 14, 2007 9:33 AM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
good lord...i finally get back on and ther is all kinds of stupid crap being done ........
how many times...how many stories have we heard of elephants going on rampages and hurting or killing people.....and to even think of putting on on the sidelines of games.....if that is what they are tring to do....
i can't comment on this anymore....it is just too damn stupid.....
go gators...and hokies
Sweet Home Alabama said:
posted on November 14, 2007 9:08 PM — 75.120.246.143 — link — abuse?
# 54 if you would do a little research before shooting from the hip you would know that this article is incorrect. IT IS AN ELEPHANT ON CAMPUS NOT ON THE SIDELINES. Damn, have to explain everything twice to Florida fans.
Gatorhippy you know less about Alabama than you would like everyone to believe.
You, a great writer . . . give me a break!
gatorhippy
posted on November 15, 2007 7:36 AM — 70.121.185.56 — link — abuse? said:
SHA (#58):
I have yet to claim that I am an infinite well of Bama history...
But I do know a few things, which I have used to back up my refutation of some of your rather silly claims while further building my point of view...
However, I'll presume from the fact that you are no longer addressing the topic at hand that you have once again ran out of counterpoints on a topic we are discussing...
Good day to you, sir...
And...
Long live Bryant the Bear...
posted on November 15, 2007 4:00 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Damnit, Gatorhippy, you're a marketing genius! I can just picture a cute Teddy bear wearing the signature houndstooth hat, 70s era blazer, with a Chesterfield hanging from it's lips to go along with the bourbon breath.
gatorstud said:
posted on November 15, 2007 4:12 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
SHA...#46....i believe the submarine was named the "ALABAMA"......try doing some "RESEARCH" before posting...tool
see how easy it is to critique posts.....
but you go ahead and think you know everything under the sun.....
go gators..and hokies
gatorhippy
posted on November 15, 2007 6:01 PM — 70.121.185.56 — link — abuse? said:
TE (#62):
Not sure where the actual representation of the phrase "Roll Tide, Roll" with detergent and TP came from...
BUT...
I do know that the phrase itself roots from UAt's "Yea, Alabama" song which actually was written by a UAt music student back in the 1920's...
So score one for the alumni...
posted on November 15, 2007 6:37 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
You know, something curious about 'Yea Alabama'. It calls out Georgia and Georgia Tech, but not Auburn. I feel insulted, but I think the sleight is because the song was written during the 40 year drought when the two teams didn't play. But what? They don't have new song writers around T-town these days?
And the line, "Send the Yellow Jackets to a watery grave". Why do you try to drown yellow jackets? Why not swat them like everyone else does? Why not send the Commodores to a watery grave? Because, after all, a commodore is a flag officer in the Navy, and who else more appropriate to send to this watery grave?
Anyone else's fight songs call out a particular rival in the lyrics? Auburn's doesn't. I know Texas A+M's Aggie War Hymn is one big obsession over Texas--one that borders on creepy!
Georgia's is "Battle Hymn of the Republic" That's really strange that they'd have to use that old song considering what kind of musical talents comes out of Athens, Georgia.
Wouldn't you like to see them commission The B-52s or REM to compose a new Bulldog fight song?
Sweet Home Alabama said:
posted on November 15, 2007 9:01 PM — 75.120.246.143 — link — abuse?
GH #59
"you have once again RAN"? Wrong tense and YOU are a good writer?
I discussed the topic at hand on my last post, a live elephant on the sidelines. Stupid to think that's what anyone was talking about. It was supposed to be an elephant on the quad, big difference.
I didn't see anything in post #53 about elephants on the sideline. Perhaps you need to get back on track. You think?
Funny how you trash me for doing the same damn thing that you do. I would say go post on a Florida thread but no one cares enough about Florida to even start one.
Long live Suburban The Gator.
GatorMatt
posted on November 15, 2007 10:11 PM — 128.227.61.110 — link — abuse? said:
#66,
The last thread dealing with Florida had to do with our quarterback being up for the Heisman. You're only thread has to do with Alabama bringing in a f*cking three-ring circus act to your school to boost team spirit. Way to go Alabamagatorstud said:
posted on November 15, 2007 11:42 PM — 72.69.2.100 — link — abuse?
SHA....look..tool.....my earlier post was in reference to cane mutinies post #48 & bleed crimson #16.....but then again..my mistake to think you read everyone spost on here since it is a story about your favorite school....or is it your alma mater...so what is it...are u just a bandwagoner...or do you bleed crimson blood.....
i didn't see any gator fans on here dog your mascott until YOU fired the first shot at our gator mascot.....at least we freaking know what it is...an alligator.......you goofballs can't even decide on a mascot...
is it an elephant, is it toilet paper on a stick w/ a box of tide ?????
why not yell...GO RED ELEPHANTS....but nnnoooooo......they sit in the stands with that tide box crap.....and look at an image of an elephant..and chant...ROLL tide.....yeah......what a piece of work you are...you go on and correct someones post ...and then when someone corrects yours...you get offended....
10,000 sperm.....and you were the fastest, huh............
why don't you go back to sittin on the couch in front of your soaps eating bon-bons and keep dreaming of the man you think you are in your posts.....tool....
these blogs are for everyone to post on, not just fans of those schools in the blog......tool
go gators....and hokies (finish strong)
TampaGator said:
posted on November 16, 2007 1:49 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Sweet Home/#41 (.):
"Crimson Tide" based on a f&%$n movie that came out in the 90's?????????
I'm call'n imposter here--you can't possibly be that f&%$n stupid, and computer-literate at the same time.
You're the best poster Auburn Fan could ever hope for...too good to be true...gotta' be an Auburn Fan posing as a--what would the singular of Crimson Tide be--algum? Elephant? Piece of TP with detergent sprinkled on it?
I hope to hell you're an imposter; I almost went to Alabama. Come on now; show your true colors--that's just wrong, doin 'Bama like that!Alright, I'm kidding about the imposter bit--but perhaps a change of handle might be in order; that's just embarrasing.
GO GATORS!!gatorhippy
posted on November 16, 2007 8:54 AM — 70.121.185.56 — link — abuse? said:
SHA (#66):
""you have once again RAN"? Wrong tense and YOU are a good writer?"
Well, congratulations on joining the Grammar Police...
Apparently, the idea behind that sentence is correct though since none of have witnessed you actually discussing the topic at hand in a reasonable manner in your last few posts on this thread...
BTW-the tense is correct...
It present perfect...
"I didn't see anything in post #53 about elephants on the sideline. Perhaps you need to get back on track. You think?"
Perhaps because it was a response to your previous three posts at 50, 51 & 52 none of which mentioned anything about Bama much less an elephant anywhere but lamely attempted to ...
"Funny how you trash me for doing the same damn thing that you do."
The funny thing is...
I haven't "trashed" you at any point...
Yet...
"I would say go post on a Florida thread but no one cares enough about Florida to even start one."
Apparently K-Hue cared enough to post the Tebow for Heisman? thread just last week...
"Long live Suburban The Gator."
Huh?
Sweet Home Alabama said:
posted on November 16, 2007 7:17 PM — 75.120.246.143 — link — abuse?
Tampagator you have got to be the dumbest sh#t walking the planet. I didn't say anything about Crimson Tide being based on a movie from the 90's. I said that the first thing that comes to mind for me is Crimson Tide the movie. Not only are you a dumb f**k, you don't even read well.
Florida fans want to start an argument about every damn subject! Apparently you're miserable because you're an also ran in the SEC this year.
Sweet Home Alabama said:
posted on November 16, 2007 8:44 PM — 75.120.246.143 — link — abuse?
# 65 it's not uncommon for a school to name some of it's rivals in a fight song.
UCLA
And if we chance to see
A man from USC
Every Bruin starts to roar.Texas
Texas Fight! Texas Fight!
And it's goodbye to A & M.Texas A & M
Good-bye to Texas University
So long to the Orange and the WhiteCalifornia
And when he hears the tread
Of lowly Stanford redGeorgia Tech
Georgia Tech is out for a victory
We'll drop our battle axe on Georgia's head, CHOP!Kansas
Talk about the Sooners, the Cowboys and the Buffs,
Talk about the Tiger and his tail,
Talk about the Wildcat, and those Cornhuskin' boys,
But I'm the bird to make 'em weep and wail.
Tomcat said:
posted on November 17, 2007 6:54 PM — 68.93.140.127 — link — abuse?
#77 Yes and they also sing" The eyes of Texas are upon you that is the song they sing so well- Go To Hell We are the fightin---Aggies bla bla
They also have saw the horns off of varsity in their lyrics, its beyond obsession with A&M.
BTW Live Elephants-boost spirit right ?
They already have plenty of spirit, looks like they will get some protest from the vegtable eating, no leather wearing, going to force our unfounded beliefs upon you, PETA people.
I would hate to have to care for and feed an animal of that size.A horse will generally consume three times the amout of hay required for a single cow. How much does one pacaderm eat?
Do they have minutures? little elephants ?
I know about minuture horses and cattleSweet Home Alabama said:
posted on November 17, 2007 7:58 PM — 75.120.246.143 — link — abuse?
Georgia Tech
"White & Gold"(Played after a touchdown)
So then it's up with the White and Gold
Down with the Red and the Black
Georgia Tech is out for a victory
We'll drop our battle axe on Georgia's head, CHOP!
When we meet her our team will surely beat her
Down on the old farm there'll be no sound
Till our bow wows rip through the air
When the battle is over Georgia's team will be found
With the Yellow Jackets swarming around.
http://www.1122productions.com/fightsongs/g.htmlI just searched for fight songs and this came up. I didn't check all the colleges just wanted to show you that there are other schools who mention their rivals.
Sweet Home Alabama said:
posted on November 17, 2007 9:21 PM — 75.120.246.143 — link — abuse?
Bevo Boy the SGA was never considering an elephant on the sidelines. It was to be on the Quad, NOT inside the stadium. This was just blown way up into something big. Bama haters just saw an opportunity to make fun of us again. Jealousy runs rampant on this forum.
Cowbell05 said:
posted on November 12, 2007 7:42 PM — 70.144.211.186 — link — abuse?Not sure how a live elephant could add any more school spirit than what they already have???