November 16, 2006
AP boots voter for thinking Sooners lost to Tech
Jim Kleinpeter of The Times-Picayune of New Orleans has been dumped from the AP College Football poll after he dropped Oklahoma from 15th to 24th on his poll ballot. Kleinpeter mistakenly believed that OU had lost this week's game to Texas Tech.
He said he was in the press box at the Alabama-LSU game "and I was asking about different teams, thinking about the poll the next day. I thought somebody told me that Oklahoma was losing to Texas Tech at some point. And I asked after the LSU game was over, 'Did Oklahoma win?' Somebody said Oklahoma lost," Kleinpeter said.
Despite Kleinpeter's vote, the Sooners moved up in the AP poll this week, from 17th to 16th.
"It was my fault," Kleinpeter said. "I probably had other avenues I could have gone to get the score, but I usually rely on the morning paper here in Baton Rouge. And for some reason, they didn't have the score. I looked all through it."It's as simple as that. It was a mistake."
ATTN Jim Kleinpeter: There is also this little thing called the Internet. Look into it.
AP sports editor Terry Taylor said: "We understand mistakes can happen, but we thought this one could have been prevented. The heart of the matter here is the credibility of the poll."
Kudos to the AP for taking steps to manage the ((ahem)) "credibility of the poll," however, I have my doubts that this is either the first time or the last time that an AP voter has guessed.
Comments:
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on November 16, 2006 11:52 AM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
GatorHippy:
It's more likely that he's gonna $6,000,000 over the next five years. He doesn't seem to be too upset. He probably didn't care for the job anymore and was just lookin' for a way to get canned so that he could rake that huge "severence package" and head for "the Bahamas". He's probably got alot more on the ball than I do.
Tommie T
gatorhippy said:
posted on November 16, 2006 12:28 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse?
Tommy:
My anonymous sources have just reported this was a case of the super secret ND society; Axis Society Of Leprechauns(A.S.O.L.); retaliating for the Cheeseburger Incidents...
It had been thought that these A.S.O.L.'s were extinct but in light of the recent injustices suffered at the hands of the S.S.E.S.; the A.S.O.L.'s have returned...
A.S.O.L.'s were apparently placed in the press box with Jimbo to feed him the incorrect intel...
Another A.S.O.L. disconnected his internet connection, scrambled his TV and radio signals and had all traces of the game report removed from the local news rag...
No confirmation on whether any A.S.O.L. ate a cheesburger...
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on November 16, 2006 12:49 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
GatorHippy:
Clearly, I see a much bigger conspiracy involved here. Everybody has been wondering why USC has jumped all the way up to #3. Well, it's really simple, in light of this new development. The A.S.O.L.'s have infiltrated every voters network and somehow influenced them to vote USC higher in the rankings. This can only serve Notre Dame's best interest - as we all know that the Irish will kill the Trojan's in the Coliseum. When all the dust settles in two weeks, while USC is then ranked #2 and Notre Dame comes in and just demolished them, then Notre Dame stands the greatest argument for jumping four spots in the polls and into the National Championship game.
I'm really worried now! Can you get ahold of your sources at the S.S.E.S., and get them to step up their propeganda againt Notre Dame, so that either USC or Florida may still have a chance. Without their help - I'm afraid we're all doomed to watchin' Notre Dame get pounded by Ohio State again!Tommie T
Tommie Trojans said:
posted on November 16, 2006 1:20 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
My picks for this weeks games of any significance. Last week was only 8-5. Got blind-sided by Georgia, UCLA, Rutgers, Wake Forest and Arkansas.
West Virginia 31 (line = W.Virginia +11)
Pittsburgh 24Maryland 14
Boston College 27 (line = B.C. +7.5)Oklahoma St. 30
Texas Tech 28 (line = Texas Tech +6)Auburn 23 (line = Auburn +3)
Alabama 17Virginia Tech 21 (line = Va.Tech +2)
Wake Forest 17South Florida 13
Louisville 37 (line = Louisville +16.5)UCLA 23
Arizona St. 24 (line = Arizona St. +4)California 24
USC 30 (line = USC +5.5)Michigan 16
Ohio State 27 (line = Ohio State +7)Hopefully, we get more clarity after this week.
Tommie T
Raider Power said:
posted on November 16, 2006 2:09 PM — 199.43.32.26 — link — abuse?
Tommie, you must have gotten the +, - signs wrong, but good call on Ohio State winning by more than one score.
As for Tech, they sure had a good chance to win. They gave up a late first half TD that really changed momentum. Their field goal kicker Alex Trlica has to be one of the worst in D-1.
badgerballer said:
posted on November 16, 2006 2:38 PM — 4.225.195.64 — link — abuse?
Define "games of any significance", please. I'm not trying to be a wise guy, but this clarification needs to happen in lots of circles. For instance, (yes, I'm a Wisconsin homer, but still) you don't include picking the Badgers game, but it is HIGHLY significant. They're somewhere in the #8 to 12 range in all the polls. A win and they close out the season 11-1. Depending on what happens with teams above us in the BCS, this game could have huge significance in the final BCS landscape.
So I guess the question is - games of significance to a given afternoon, or in the context of the season? Follow?
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on November 16, 2006 2:40 PM — 68.48.90.67 — link — abuse?
My picks for this weeks games of any significance. I'm gonna challenge Tommie.
West Virginia 42(line = W.Virginia +11)
Pittsburgh 21Maryland 24
Boston College 20 (line = B.C. +7.5)Oklahoma St. 28
Texas Tech 41 (line = Texas Tech +6)Auburn 27 (line = Auburn +3)
Alabama 14Virginia Tech 24(line = Va.Tech +2)
Wake Forest 21South Florida 21
Louisville 35(line = Louisville +16.5)UCLA 28
Arizona St. 34(line = Arizona St. +4)California 40
USC 36 (line = USC +5.5)Michigan 15
Ohio State 24(line = Ohio State +7)Hopefully, 5 out of the top 6 loses.
Diggs the Mountie
Ryan said:
posted on November 16, 2006 3:34 PM — 192.18.43.10 — link — abuse?
Is there a team who has had more bad luck than the Sooners this year? Look out for the Sooners to come in pissed next year and make a statement. Favorable schedule including Miami at home for good measure.
OU will be a top 5 team next year.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on November 16, 2006 4:02 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
badgerballer:
My term "games of significance refers to two teams, both rated in the Top 40, who are jockeying for better Bowl game appearances. That's all. I guess all games are significant. I just deem these as being the games that have a better shot at going either way. Obviously, when Florida plays Western Carolina - why should I bother picking a winner. How bout Arkansas vs Mississippi State? Should I waste my time? Anyway, that's all it means.
Tommie T
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on November 16, 2006 4:42 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
Raider Power?
Yep, technically, you're right. The favored team would normally show a minus sign prior to the number that they would be favored by against the line. But, for practical purposes, the plus sign was used as an illustration as to how much better the favored team was deemed (for the layman only - like me). My numbers are based on averages only. I have Ohio State by 11 in the "average game played" and there has been eleven games played. That doesn't mean that Michigan's defense doesn't step up and make it much tougher. We'll see. Michigan has "underperformed" Ohio State by an average of around eight points every week.
Tommie T
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on November 16, 2006 4:50 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
Ryan:
I think the two teams that have had the worst luck so far are Ohio State and Michigan. One of those teams is gonna have to play USC this year. Remember what happened to Oklahoma when they came in with a 12-0 record? Wasn't it something like 55-19? Oh, and if you think you've gotten a broken heart this year, try going 12-0 next year and having the wheels come off your wagon against the Trojans again. It won't be good to be a Sooner next year. Your better off just finishing up 11-2 and be happy about that.
Tommie T
So Cal USMC said:
posted on November 16, 2006 7:12 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
USC 27-Cal 24 - USC better watch the Special Teams defense against WR/KR DeSean Jackson (Long Beach Poly grad). Theyre best off kicking the ball out-of-bounds on every Kickoff. Limit the big plays (bend, dont break).
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on November 16, 2006 7:35 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
So Cal USMC:
First off, USC will not be punting. DeSean Jackson is not gonna do nothing in this game. Tedford will play right into Carroll's hands. This is how it will go down: The 1st task is to stop Lynch. He'll be spied by Lawrence Jackson on the strong side and Keith Rivers on the weak side. He won't be able to get outside because of the speed of Rivers and Maualuga. Cushing will provide the pass rush from WSDE and if Lynch doesn't get the ball - then Jackson turns and heads for Longshore also. Rivers stays with Lynch wherever he goes. I figure Moala lines up with Ellis at the DT's in this one to completely seal the middle down. If Cal gets too far behind, and has to throw, then Barrett will come in to chase Longshore some more. When Cal can't run and has to pass: Sartz will take the TE and Cary Harris is gonna end up taking Hawkins man on man. These two guys will go for the short stuff that USC will let them try. Kevin Ellison will lay the lumber to whichever one gets the ball. DeSean Jackson will be doubled all dayum day long by Terrell Thomas and Taylor Mays. He'll get hammered as soon as he catches anything - if he catches anything. Rey Maualuga will take care of anything in the middle or sideline to sideline. If Forsett comes in for screen plays - then Rivers will step up to take him out. He'll spy this guy also. Ted ford would do best to just forget about Jackson and try and get the ball to Hawkins and the TE or maybe some guys out of the backfield. Maybe he ought to go to multiple receiver sets and stay away from Jackson. But, I'll think he'll try and force it and get burned. The dink and dunk stuff that the Washington's were doing was working somewhat. But, I believe, that Cal will not be able to rely on their other people to get it done. They'll continually force it to Lynch and Jackson with very undesirable results.
On offense: USC will just pound them. Steve Smith is the guy to watch in this one. Fred Davis should go big also. Jarrett is gonna be doubled and these two guys will kill Cal throught the air. And, of cource, Chauncey is just gonna keep pounded the rock on them. No chance for Cal.Tommie T
volstrike3 said:
posted on November 16, 2006 7:47 PM — 216.103.178.34 — link — abuse?
Tommy T,
Not a bad breakdown. Lynch will get stuffed. Jackson can do damage if they can get the ball to him, I do not see that happening consitently. On offense, USC will exploit Cals weak secondary, a lot of yards after contact against those guys. I could see Booty having some big numbers. I would like Cal to knock USC off but I do not think it will happen. I predict:
USC 35
Cal 17So Cal USMC said:
posted on November 16, 2006 7:55 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
Tommy T,
Lets hope there's not much Punting (I think Cal is Ranked 2nd in PR Yardage!, USC is ranked 70-something in PR-Yds Defense).
To simplify things, USC will have to "stop" the Run (the way Tennessee and Arizona did) to win the game... and they're pretty good at that. Thats the gameplan from USC's perspective... But thats why I stress the SPECIAL TEAMS! Dont let Cal exploit that advantage (UCLA 2006 was great at Special Teams, USC consistantly kicked the ball away from the Returners). Looking at the past couple of weeks aroung the country, quite a few games came down to Special teams - lets not overlook Sp Tms!
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on November 16, 2006 8:15 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
Ballz:
I'm with you on that one. Lou Holtz is a worse "homer" than I am. I've never seen anybody more predictable and biased as that clown. I'm sure he's got a vote too! He's got em #1 Notre Dame #2 Arkansas #3 South Carolina. What a clown! The dude is more unstable than Ronald Reagan was at the end. Where's Krevorkian when you need him? This guy is what the whole process was intended for.
Tommie T
The Mayor said:
posted on November 16, 2006 8:49 PM — 67.174.192.148 — link — abuse?
Sooner Taft...
Quit whinning, you got jobbed but you still lost. Even with the bad calls you still had a good chance to win the game, the Sooners just didn't perform in the final minute.
The Sooners have had a great season considering what they have been through (Peterson out / Bomar controversy).
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on November 16, 2006 9:23 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
Mayor:
Thanx for pickin' the Bears. We needed that boost and your Karma's gonna come in handy. As for these whinin' Okie's - man they gotta get over it. There's bad calls in every single game. Trojans got jerked for a couple against Texas last year. I never heard even one fan say a word. We've gotten our breaks too. I think that the philosophy ought to be, "if you don't want the outcome to rest in the officials hands", then win by at least thirty points. If it's that close that a bad call can determine the outcome - you didn't play very good anyway and probably deserved to lose. How bout all those "holdings" that your team got away with anyway. How many "clips" do you see that go uncalled. I see all kinds of stuff. There lucky I'm not an official. I'd throw a flag on every single play. I'm sure I can find something. It's a joke to beat that dead horse.
Tommie T
Bleed Crimson said:
posted on November 16, 2006 10:15 PM — 65.4.6.124 — link — abuse?
I like yalls picks for this week. here are mine:
West Virginia 42(line = W.Virginia +11)
Pittsburgh 21Maryland 27
Boston College 10 (line = B.C. +7.5)Oklahoma St. 14
Texas Tech 31 (line = Texas Tech +6)Auburn 10 (line = Auburn +3)
Alabama 17Virginia Tech 10(line = Va.Tech +2)
Wake Forest 21South Florida 7
Louisville 35(line = Louisville +16.5)UCLA 28
Arizona St. 21(line = Arizona St. +4)California 35
USC 27 (line = USC +5.5)Michigan 7
Ohio State 35(line = Ohio State +7)Lets see how i do.
SoonerTaft said:
posted on November 17, 2006 2:07 AM — 68.97.9.76 — link — abuse?
Diggs, good game. I thought for a while Pitt was doing a good job by keeping up with WVU. They won by 18, not 21, but damn close.
The Mayor: I'm not whining. And thanks for your recognition for the adversity we have faced. But we should be 9-1, and if it happened to your team you would understand. But now, we are just hoping that Texas loses to a&m (unlikely) and that we win out (likely). Then we get BCS, and more needed recognition and publicity.
Mojo said:
posted on November 17, 2006 6:31 PM — 198.133.214.11 — link — abuse?
wareagle524 says:
"I think the reason he thought they lost was due to the same reason Texas doesnt float off into the gulf of mexico.....
You know, because OKLAHOMA SUCKS"This is coming from a fan of the school that lost to not one but TWO unranked teams this year? OU lost to the defending national champs and got Ducked over by PAC 10 at Oregon, which was a ranked team at the time too.
Why doesn't Auburn stop scheduling division II schools and get some respect? Award yourself another "People's National Championship" and join your buddies a circle-jerk.boomer sooner
Tomcat said:
posted on November 18, 2006 10:51 AM — 68.90.182.52 — link — abuse?
#11 gatorhippy thats purty funny-Evil sports writers.Where do I apply? Although I have a limited formal education{ I graduated Gotacumalota from SHK}I would at least check,read and watch every resourse available before voting.
#1 IrishJT May your precious ND lose another one possibly USC then maybe you will be matched against Texas or Oklahoma in a bowl.
#39 Soonertaft Much needed publicity? OU is ranked high every year. Oklahoma has a great program.
#35 Tommie T now I agree that Holtz has the rankings as follows
#1 ND #2 Arkansas #3 South Carolina
Barry Switzer
#1 OU #2 Arkansas
Keith Jackson
#1 USC #2 Ohio State #3 N D every year since creation
Herb- ESPN just reverse the first two and ad Mich
Sicem-Bears beat OUgatorhippy said:
posted on November 18, 2006 11:07 AM — 72.40.35.247 — link — abuse?
Tomcat:
I just report the facts as passed on to me...
However, it seems this retaliation by the A.S.O.L.s to the previous incidents I reported on the "Cheeseburger" thread has begun a shaping of an epic battle of good versus evil...
S.S.E.S. has declared all out war upon all A.S.O.L.s since their treachery against S.S.E.S agent Kleinpeter...
As soon as they finish their hamburgers...
IrishJT said:
posted on November 16, 2006 8:21 AM — 71.207.226.16 — link — abuse?Good Riddance, Jimbo!! This guy had LSU at #7...home cajun cookin' for sure, with two-loss Auburn (who beat LSU) at #8. Texas, the neighbor to the West, came in at #9 despite their loss to K State.
Good borders certainly DO make good neighbors!! I told you these guys were walking around with their ass on their shoulders.