December 11, 2007
Bobby Petrino hired at Arkansas
Rivals - citing ESPN and the AP - is reporting that Atlanta Falcons head coach Bobby Petrino has resigned his position with the team to become the new head coach at Arkansas.
His contract with Arkansas will be a five-year deal worth $2.85 million per year to take over the Razorbacks.
The Petrino announcement takes Arkansas on a complete 360, as Arkansas was expected to offer the job to Auburn DC Will Muschamp. According to reports, Petrino was offered the position last night, but turned it down cold. The Razorbacks completed more interviews and settled on Muschamp. However, prior to offering the Tigers DC, Petrino called Arkansas this afternoon to say that he had slept on it and wanted to accept the position. He resigned from the Falcons at 5:45p.
Petrino was in his first season with the Falcons, after racking up a 41-9 record at Louisville.
In the grand scheme of things, I would say that this is an outstanding hire for Arkansas. A few days ago I lamented the state of the UA search, but it's now clear that -- with Petrino on the sidelines -- the Razorbacks are poised to take it to the next level.
And with Petrino upping the ante in the arms race, is there any question that the SEC West is now the best coached division in college football? Saban, Miles, Nutt, Croom, Tuberville, and Petrino? Damn.
But Petrino does have his detractors. His reputation as a human being - outside of his obvious coaching talents - is... how do you say... shite?
Move over, Nick Saban. There’s a new lying SOB in town.
Tony Barnhart, Atlanta Constiution-Journal:
Do you people have any idea what you’ve done? Bobby Petrino is one of those guys who looks good on paper, but as a human being he has absolutely no communication or people skills. Other than his wins at Louisville, what about this man appealed to you to hire him as a representative of your university? ... [After trying to back-door Tuberville...] Why would you hire someone who would stab somebody in the back like that? ... Arkansas will survive, of course. But for the next few weeks this school is going to be the poster-child of what’s wrong with college athletics because of this hire.
Bobby Petrino hasn't arrived in Arkansas yet. But already, Razorback fans have to be wondering how long he will hang around Fayetteville. A man who flirts with every major job vacancy around can't be trusted.
In the coming days and weeks, the disingenuous drifter will say what Arkansas fans want to hear....
So hiring a guy with a 41-9 college record will get the blood pumping. But those Arkansas fans ready to embrace their new hotshot coach and his pretty ball plays need to understand one thing:
Bobby Petrino gave Louisville fans plenty of reasons to smile by going 41-9 from 2003-06.
The disingenuous drifter doesn't love you or any other fan base. He doesn't love any school or any NFL franchise. He loves himself, his playbook and his bank account.
That's it. Don't expect it to change.
Bobby Petrino will return your embrace, Hog fans. But while he's hugging you he'll be looking over your shoulder, scanning the terrain for his next hook-up.
Even in a profession rife with dishonest posturing, Petrino is singularly mercenary. Loyalty, allegiance, commitment and honesty are foreign concepts to him. It must be a sad existence.
I apologize to Alabama's Nick Saban -- last year I named him president of the Liar's Club. He's been impeached and replaced by the disingenuous drifter.
Comments:
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on December 11, 2007 7:23 PM — 216.10.193.20 — link — abuse?
If this is true, I bet Mitch Mustain is wishing he had stuck it out in Fayetteville. He would be a great fit for Petrino's style of offense and he wouldn't be facing as much competition for the starting position as he does at USC.
posted on December 11, 2007 7:25 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
Damn it! Damn it! Damn it! I knew that Petrino was itching to make a move. His kiss of death was a pronouncement the other day that he was perfectly happy with the Falcons. I knew it was all over then.
I want Petrino to come to Auburn!! If we had only told Tuberville that he had a contract in place and that we intended to stick with it, maybe he would have bolted for Arkansas. Chief meddling trustee Bobby Lowder would have immediately gassed up the jet for PDK in Atlanta to go get Petrino. Jesus!!!!!!
College Pigskin Fan said:
posted on December 11, 2007 7:26 PM — 4.245.77.76 — link — abuse?
Either the SEC will have a lot of teams at 9-3/8-4, or someone will be 11-1/12-0 and ranked #1 or #2.
With Petrino, Miles, Nutt, Saban, and Tuberville, along with Myers, Richt, Fulmer, and Spurrier, in the SEC, I can't wait until next September.
posted on December 11, 2007 7:39 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Does anyone else smell a financial Hail Mary having been thrown at Petrino by Arkansas? It would be a little hard to walk away from almost $5M a year with the Falcons, especially considering that he could have stayed at least 2 more years even if they had the same type of seasons they're having now. I guess we'll learn more in the next few days.
Got to say that this is definitely a good hire for Arkansas. The SEC west is now wide open!
At least Auburn gets to keep Muschamp for a little while longer.
I bet Mitch Mustain is shedding a tear tonight, too!
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on December 11, 2007 7:57 PM — 216.10.193.20 — link — abuse?
#6: Cowbell, I suspect RunDMC won't be hanging around much longer. During the Heisman ceremony, he remarked that he was done playing QB, which was probably an admission of his intentions to go pro. No matter though, the spotlight will now shift to Felix Jones.
Autigerman said:
posted on December 11, 2007 8:02 PM — 68.109.98.15 — link — abuse?
Well SEC west will be fun next year.Cant say it surprised me too much after MNF last night the falcons looked horrible.
New OC at Auburn has to be better then Borges was this year. I heard we were getting Franklin from Troy.
Would be a good hire Troy had a highly ranked offense this year.
ATL-ien said:
posted on December 11, 2007 8:18 PM — 160.10.98.223 — link — abuse?
Great let Petrino go to Arkansas (we don't allow puss*** in Atlanta anyway).This was best for the Falcons to do (never should of got rid of Jim Mora).
I hope now that these owners learn to leave these college coaches alone and go after nfl coaches and coordinators that put their hard work into the NFL and know the league.
***Brian Brohm just tumbled and Matt Ryan and Colt Breenan sky rocketed**ATL-ien said:
posted on December 11, 2007 8:30 PM — 160.10.98.223 — link — abuse?
Hey Petrino. You'll have a season in the SEC simliar to what you had this season with the Falcons. Without DMac and possibly Felix Jones, have fun with a one dimemsional offense that will soon be a no dimensional offense.
Good luck with the Arkansas fanbase, You don't have, UGA, GaTech, the Hawks, Braves, and Thrashers to take some heat off you for a while.
Zac said:
posted on December 11, 2007 8:31 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Gee, after a few stints as OC, including with the Jacksonville Jaguars, Bobby Petrino spends 4 season as HC at Louisville, 1 season with the Atlanta Falcons, and now he's HC at AR. Sounds like a Jimmy Johnson wanna-be, without a ring (college or pro) to show for it. Wat da hek, best of luck all da same.
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on December 11, 2007 8:44 PM — 76.182.205.22 — link — abuse? said:
@ #12 I agree with you. Why does it seem everytime a college coach heads to the pros he has a lousy couple of years with their team and then they are ready to bolt back to the college ranks?
After Petrino see's how insane these razorback fan's expectations are he will be wishing he was still ATL.
T-Mac
posted on December 11, 2007 9:43 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse? said:
At least Nick Saban waited until the season was over before he left the Dolphins for Bama!
Wonder if Petrino will take the same amount of criticism that Saban has???
They could have worked it out on the down low and he could have stayed with the Falcons til season's end, but...
He didn't!!!
That speaks volumes!
T-Mac will post when he can.
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Texas Zack said:
posted on December 11, 2007 10:58 PM — 69.92.27.21 — link — abuse?
Saban got so much crap about the move becuase he said "I'm not going to be the Alabama coach!" Petrino didnt say anything like that so its not like he lied. Although he did call the Falcons to let him know he resigned. Who phones in their resignation? Oh well, being an Arkansas Alum i'm quite happy we got him. Hell i'm kinda happy we got anyone at this point.
GA Boy said:
posted on December 11, 2007 11:04 PM — 97.89.26.241 — link — abuse?
Nobody wishes they could go back to ATL coach. It just was not meant to be for the Falcons. I wish they would move them somewhere else and just keep playing high school, college games and concerts in the Dome. That is the only time there is any worthy entertainment there. Go Falcons and take Hawks with you.
GO DAWGS!
Southern Fried Bulldog said:
posted on December 11, 2007 11:38 PM — 207.47.66.204 — link — abuse?
1. The Falcons should never have gotten rid of Dan Reeves, let alone hire Jim Mora or Bobby Petrino. Neither of them were good fits for Atlanta and now we're back to the drawing board.
2. A coach that calls in his resignation and can't even tell their players to their faces that he is leaving with THREE GAMES LEFT in the season doesn't deserve to be a coach.
3. Arkansas and Alabama fans now have something in common: a short-term football coach that is sure to jump ship to the next school that offers them enough money.
IMO, Sly Croom is one of the only SEC coaches with any integrity left.
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on December 11, 2007 11:58 PM — 216.10.193.20 — link — abuse?
#22: Southern Fried...
I gotta agree with your first point - Reeves was the right coach for the Falcons. Your second point gave me a humorous thought (Petrino "phoned in" the season as coach - why not "phone in" your resignation, too). I have to disagree with your third and fourth points, though. Petrino is a college coach who never should have jumped to the pros. I suspect his short tenure in Atlanta won't be reflected by his tenure in Arkansas.
Also, I think most of the SEC coaches have integrity; however, they seem to forget where they put it from time to time.
#19: Schmed...
Two coaches and 20 or so dogs - Vick is a natural born killer.
Wh1te Out said:
posted on December 12, 2007 12:15 AM — 192.207.114.20 — link — abuse?
Woo Pig Sooie!
Santa came early for me this year. Oh man, I can't even sleep I'm so hyped up right now. Talk about a home run for our program. Wow, wow, wow.
Can't wait for next season and another crazy year in the SEC. Maybe finally Arkansas can take that next step into the upper echelon.
Thank you, Bobby. Call those Hogs again for us, and get on the phones!
T-Mac
posted on December 12, 2007 1:05 AM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse? said:
Texas Zack, the point T-Mac is making is that Saban STAYED til season's end with the Dolphins bro.
Petrino just BAILED on the Falcons with 3 games left in the season!
Everybody from the start has put Saban's Integrity in question.
Where will everybody stand on the way Petrino handled the Falcons situation???
Again, Saban left the Dolphins with the Owners blessing and good luck!!!
How did Petrino leave the Falcons again Texas Zack???
Oh well, Vick is on lockdown for the next 2 years so I'll just bail while I can.
Screw it. I won't wait til season's end. I'll just bolt today!!!
That is Great Character dogg!!!
Texas Zack, in case you had no idea brother, the Falcons players aren't real happy with the way THEIR HEAD COACH JUST SPLIT!!!
Good Luck at Arkansas Petrino!
You will need it.
Saban, Miles, Tuberville, Nutt etc...
T-Mac said, you will need luck!
T-Mac will post when he can.
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Big Tide said:
posted on December 12, 2007 2:45 AM — 12.208.88.211 — link — abuse?
WEA #4 Several weeks ago I was just certain that Petrino would come to Auburn after Tubby bolted for greener pastures. The only part of the equation I had wrong was Tubberville leaving. Petrino leaving the Falcons was so obvious it hurts. The Falcons haven taken up residence just down the street from the Dolphins on Wasteland Drive. No easy answers for those franchises. While quitting with three games left in the season sounds bad and looks bad on the surface, if anyone saw the pictures of the Georgia Dome late in the 4th quarter of Monday Night's game it was very clear that the season IS over for the Falcons.
T-Mac shame on you for bringing Saban into this thread!
TE
posted on December 12, 2007 11:19 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Another interesting bit of info...
Saban, Tuberville, & now Nutt have all coached at TWO different schools, each within their own division, and that makes FOUR coaches in the SEC (counting Spurrier in the East) that have now coached at two inter-divisional rivals...
Amazing....
dawgfan said:
posted on December 12, 2007 11:23 AM — 65.222.248.66 — link — abuse?
I don't think he will turn Ark into a perennial powerhouse or anything of that nature, but his teams will always be good enough to beat you on any given day. They will be playing the role of spoiler very often. Most every season from here on out, Bama, AU, or LSU will look back at the Ark game and think if they had won that one, they would be headed to the dome.
TE
posted on December 12, 2007 11:42 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Dawgfan,
Everyone already thinks that about Arkansas...Nutt's team surprised everyone last year and whupped up on Auburn after they came through and beat LSU, and they did it to us this year after we did it to them last year...
Not sure, but it seems like you may be a little too focused on the SEC East...Which is fine...But, no one over here has taken Arkansas for granted in a long time, my friend...
What remains to be seen is if Petrino will be able to recruit better than Nutt. If he's not, then I don't see the caliber of athlete Arkansas attracts winning in the SEC without a supreme motivator. In other words, if he's not every bit the motivator and player's coach that Nutt was, then all the football IQ in the world and all the schemes on the planet aren't going to help him, because Arkansas simply has not proven to be able to attract the caliber of athlete necessary to annually contend and dominate the SEC...
Just the facts, jack...
posted on December 12, 2007 11:57 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Reaction to what Petrino has done is universally bad, with the exception of folks living in R-Kansas. This many bridges haven't been burned since Atilla the Hun. I think I withdrawal my previous desire for Petrino to coach at Auburn. I now think he lacks sufficient character.
Interviews I've seen with ATL Falcon players indicate they're pretty pissed--and rightfully so. Had Petrino resigned at the end of the season, there wouldn't be quite the firestorm. People would understand that a Vick-less Falcons squad wasn't what he signed up for. Leaving before the season ended just makes him look like a quitter and a coward.
Saban vs Petrino? No comparison.
It's becoming increasingly evident that the two camps--pro and college--are distinctly different, and that there's no crossing over anymore. If you want to be in one, then you must come up in that system. Look at all the high-profile coaches in the SEC alone that have NFL flops to their credit--Spurrier, Saban, and now Petrino.
Read that Tony Barnhart article above. I haven't seen him this fired up in a while.
Big Tide said:
posted on December 12, 2007 12:54 PM — 69.34.227.69 — link — abuse?
I read Pat Forde's column last night on espn.com and thought the same thing concerning Saban's departure etc. Talk about leaving out the back door. One thing is for sure, what Jimmy Johnson accomplished with Dallas just becomes more amazing with every one of these flops. That team was on the mat when he arrived and don't even try and put Switzer in his league. Barry just kind of eased in the door and did what Jerry wanted done.
40 Acres of Burnt Orange #15. College coaches are leaving for the NFL because they are in a no-lose situation. They get paid big money and if they lose nobody in the college ranks holds it against them. They get valuable experience coaching pro athletes and get paid to do it. It's like getting college money in the Army!! Seriously, look at ol' USC Pete C. He had to spend some time in the NFL before he found the promised land. Who knows, maybe that experience made him a better coach. It sure didn't hurt.....
Bonn said:
posted on December 12, 2007 12:55 PM — 65.207.145.30 — link — abuse?
Thank you, thank you, thank you Bobby Pertino for standing up to this poor excuse of a sports city and going somewhere that will let you do your job! Personally, I wouldn't take a Falcons job for $5million a year! Why? Let's recap. Mr. Home Depot (did a great job marketing the team), blows his spend on Michael "the Pitbull" Vick,leaving almost no allowance for other, critically needed talent. Had Vick not been able to scramble, he'd have been the most punished QB in the game. NO talent up front. Now let's look at the D. With few exceptions (and Deangelo Hall in NOT one of them), there's nothing there either - nothing! Don't believe me - look at the rankings over the years. To make a point - we've had to bring back the oldest player in the game just to make ends meet on PAT's. Go Morten! Mr. HD hires a real greenhorn in Jim Mora, he's a terrible coach. Great with players and should be - he still played Nintendo with most of them. I felt sorry for Petrino the day he signed. Atlanta has a crappy football team and has since I came here in 1969. With one or two years as exceptions, the Falcon's have sucked and will continue to do so until Mr. HD learns what team building is about and also learns to stay away from the field. What would it take to get this organization turned around? Someone like Bill Parcels, Jimmy Johnson or better yet Bill Cowher. But there's not enough room in GA for the likes of one of those greats and Art's head. Somethings gotta go and this time is was a very wise Bobby Petrino.
Tomcat said:
posted on December 12, 2007 1:35 PM — 69.148.199.64 — link — abuse?
Arkansas made a good move Coach Petrino made a good move.History is history and the future lies ahead.
NFL ? Atlanta? sorry folks at least your team didnt leave town whatever-I used to be an Oilers fan-pardon my who cares attitude-NFL is a different game entirely- too many rules, penaltlties, millionare premadonnas and stupid owners-
this is about CFB
Arkansas vs Missouri is shaping up to be one heck of a game,Wild hog with Mafaddin is fun to watch.Chase Daniel and the Tigers are fun to watch too.Cant wait till next season
Sept 2008 The Hogs come into Austin
Ark vs Texas
an old rivalry is renewed
Hookem-Horns
posted on December 12, 2007 1:42 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Tomcat: Petrino probably did what was best for him. But if he had waited 3 more games, the controversy would be no where near as big. Of course, once he made the decision to go to Arkansas, there was no keeping that secret in.
Petrino better make the most out of his latest post. He's a college coach from here on out. Should be interesting to see what he can do with Casey Dick next year.
If a was an NFL owner, I just don't know if I would poach coaches from the college ranks to lead my team any more. It's two entirely different systems, and it's becoming very clear to which one Petrino belonged. Pro coaches definitely seem to have an easier time crossing over to the college ranks than vice-versa.
Tomcat said:
posted on December 12, 2007 2:24 PM — 69.148.199.64 — link — abuse?
WarEaGATL Ya your probably right, the guy caught hell for leaving Louisville.The question is was he having in fun in Atlanta?
or was the big money really worth it?
apparently not
The expectations couldnt be higher than at Arkansas and the coach knows that.
BTW The Falcons will find a coach and should do well in the draft.The whole city is probably in a uproar right now and thats understandable.
Does Vick have to pay back alot of money due to violating his contract?
Wake up call for owners/coaches concerning players character and not just physical skills
Adios TomcatBMC1157 said:
posted on December 12, 2007 2:50 PM — 72.191.14.43 — link — abuse?
Ref #36 Tomcat: I too welcome the Razorback/Longhorn rivalry. As an Ark student during the old SWC days, UT was our BIGGEST game even though UT won about 65% of the time. It will be a great Fall 2008. Just wish McFadden would stay for his senior year, but doubt that will happen.
WOOO PIG SOOIE!
BMC1157 said:
posted on December 12, 2007 2:52 PM — 72.191.14.43 — link — abuse?
Ref #36 Tomcat: I too welcome the Razorback/Longhorn rivalry. As an Ark student during the old SWC days, UT was our BIGGEST game even though UT won about 65% of the time. It will be a great Fall 2008. Just wish McFadden would stay for his senior year, but doubt that will happen.
As for whether the new coach will jump at the next pay hike (or chance for more fame)... probably, but who doesn't? Happens every day in AND out of football.WOOO PIG SOOIE!
dawgfan said:
posted on December 12, 2007 3:37 PM — 65.222.248.66 — link — abuse?
TE - I'm not too focused on the SEC East. I merely meant w/out saying it that it is more so for LSU, Bama, and AU b/c they will play Ark every year. That is all I meant by it. I also think the same thing for the teams in the east. Ark could easily spoil any of their attempts to make a run to the dome. It is just that they only play Ark 2 out of 5 years and Petrino will be gone in 3 max.
Dr. J. said:
posted on December 12, 2007 4:55 PM — 68.155.69.37 — link — abuse?
One word for Petrino: "Quitter." Even his Allanta players are happy he's leaving. Who wants a quitter? Arkansas deserved someone with more integrety. But any time you run off someone like Houston Nutt, you get what you deserve.
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on December 12, 2007 5:13 PM — 192.91.75.30 — link — abuse? said:
@ #34 Tide I just think it's a little crappy that these college coaches try it out at the Pro level, they tank, and lie about staying with their NFL tean for the long haul then bolt back to the college ranks ASAP.
@ Tomcat & BMC1157 can't wait for the Horns/Hogs revival. This should be a game that's played every year. I was at the game in 04 and have to say that this is definately one of the most overlooked rivalries in the nation. Any Hog or Horns fan should check this book at about the season and "The Game Of The Century" in 69 "Horns, Hogs, and Nixon's Coming: Dixie's Last Stand by Terry Frei. A great read.
Tomcat said:
posted on December 12, 2007 7:26 PM — 69.148.199.64 — link — abuse?
#44 Thanks for the information,I havent read that one.Probably on of the best halftime pep-talks ever given Coach Darel Royal " Do you want it?" "there it is go get it".
I agree with you that UT vs Ark great rivalry
The Hog Fans hate UT worse than OU
Purty cool
Hookem-HornsT-Mac
posted on December 12, 2007 9:01 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse? said:
It really tells what kind of person someone is when their ex-owner and ex-players are on tv and have NOTHING positive to say about them!!!
That is writing on the wall folks.
T-Mac never recalls a coach bailing on his team like this and the owner and players being this mad.
It seems people are just sort of sweeping this one under the rug for some reason.
The Falcons had 3 games left this season.
3 games!!!
Was it too much to ask for Petrino to steer the ship for the last 3 games???
Even though the ship was sinking!
Evidently, 3 more games was asking too much from Petrino.
Some Coaches get burned at the stake.
Some Coaches get a free pass.
Funny how that works!?!?!
T-Mac will post when he can.
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gatorstud said:
posted on December 12, 2007 9:39 PM — 71.115.83.216 — link — abuse?
as if this season couldn't get any wackier.......hello fellas..i'm back, all this backstabbing that is going on is college football has reached ridiculous status......it's been tough finding time to get on here lately......
last month my father suffered a stroke....he is doing much better...and doctors say that with a lot of therapy...he should get his full mobility back...i have spent a ton of time with him this past month...and have been repeatedly reminded why this man is my hero.....never complained..never a harsh word to my mother....was a loving father, but with a firm hand.....but his best quality is his honesty....he stuck to his word....if he said he would do it...you knew it was going to get done...he came from a time when handshakes were how deals got done..and people lived up to their end of the bargain..and now deals are broken by backstabbing and loopholes.....
and as i watch the coverage of the atlanta falcons falling apart..because of, not bad managment....not a team full of horrible players....but because of two individuals who chose not to live up to their word......and now there is professional football team that is in disaray....
and then there is arkansas....WTF are you thinking....hiring this guy who just screwed over a nfl team for you, and you think you got a GOOD DEAL.......when mcfadden goes to the nfl and your sitting on the bottom of the sec west next year....remind us of how good a deal it was.....ther is no way this guy has got enough street credit to lure southern prospects away from the likes of florida, fsu, lsu, albama, auburn, georgia, tenn, miami, south carolina.......it ain't gonnna happen.....
i dunno...i'm tired...it might be a while, until i return.....
and timmy got his heisman.......
g-hippy and ramblin gator...hold down the fort.....
go gators.....get them wolverines...
Jon said:
posted on December 12, 2007 9:53 PM — 68.84.19.20 — link — abuse?
First off, we don't know enough about the falcons culture and behind the scenes to judge whether this guy was being an idiot or if we would have done the EXACT same thing if we were this situation. So lets not judge him from our soap box.
Second, he is a good coach and will be probably be succesful at Arkansas. He may not be too good next year, but when he gets his people in place, I imagine they will be very good.
GA Boy said:
posted on December 12, 2007 11:26 PM — 97.89.26.241 — link — abuse?
Rablin Gator
Dream on. What is going to be painful is the next few years of whippings Richt gives your Gators and Yellow Jackets.
Besides, Richt is a winner and he is not going to take over a program that cannot win. The Falcons cannot win a championship. He is sitting on the verge of winning 2 national championships back to back at GA. He almost backdoored his way into it this year. Do you honestly think that he would leave GA for the pathetic Falcons? Dream on.GO DAWGS~
T-Mac
posted on December 12, 2007 11:50 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse? said:
JON, POST 51. TAKE A BREATH DOGG!!!
T-Mac is from Atlanta and has way more insight to this fiasco than YOU can imagine!!!
FIASCO!
This guy BAILED on his team, the fans, and the Falcons organization.
3 games left bro!
3 games????
T-Mac says that when people like Warrick Dunn are on tv and talking negative about you, that's a PROBLEM!!!
WD never has a bad word to say about anybody.
He is a great person and will speak his mind.
T-Mac knows Atlanta.
T-Mac knows about the Falcons and what has been going on.
T-Mac will judge Petrino and T-Mac will keep on keepin on dogg!!!
JON, watch what you express before you come off like a complete fool.
T-Mac isn't on a soap box...........
YET!
T-Mac can get all up on a SOAP BOX if you wanna go to summer school brother.
DO NOT address people on Fanblogs as WE.
WE are all one on Fanblogs, but some of us know what is going on Jon!
JON, Never make assumptions on Fanblogs.
When you make assumptions you make an ass out of U and ME.
T-Mac is not an ass.
Jon, do you think T-Mac is an ass brother???
Jon, if you think that than let it be known brother.
T-Mac is at about a 5 at this point.
T-Mac can go to 10 Jon.
T-Mac will post when he can.
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40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on December 13, 2007 12:25 AM — 76.182.205.22 — link — abuse? said:
@ 45 Tomcat, Being a Longhorn fan you gotta pick up that book and check it out. Penn State fans still whine that they should have won the title in 69 instead of us, but they refused to play us in the Cotton Bowl at the end of the year. It's a great read for any Horn's or Hog's fan, and for any college football fan in general. Yeah they hate us bad in Arkansas. I love it!
@ gatorstud: sorry to hear bout your dad, our prayers go out to you and your family.
T-Mac
posted on December 13, 2007 1:21 AM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse? said:
G-Stud, 50. T-Mac will pray for you, your Father, and your Family bro!
Family is important.
T-Mac never had a Father.
He ran off on us when T-Mac was just a shawty!!!
T-Mac can just think what it would be like though.
T-Mac says to you not to leave your Father's side G-Stud if you can afford to stay bro.
G-Stud, the way you describe your Father T-Mac can tell that you love him.
If you love him G-Stud, he must have been there for you bro.
T-Mac was too young to remember his dad.
T-Mac's Mother said he left when T-Mac was 4 and Sis was 6 years old.
The bottle was more than his family, but at the same time T-Mac still has something in there for him.
He wasn't bad to Mom's or anything, he just had to get his drink on 24/7.
G-Stud, stick by your Father bro.
You are lucky to have this time with him. Don't waste it!
Cherish it.
Your Friend, T-Mac
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1st_and_NOLE
posted on December 13, 2007 9:03 AM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse? said:
Soooooooo..........
Bobby Petrino is complete trash. Somewhere in Bama Nick Saban is grinning wide.
I can understand Petrino's time in ATL was awful because he came into this job thinking he had Mike Vick to work with and the bottom fell out unexpectedly. Petrino lost his best player before the season started so I get the fact the job turned out to not be what he thought it was.
However....
The same exact thing is about to happen to him at Ark. Except, he's going to lose his best TWO players before the season starts... D-Mac and Felix Jones are leaving for the NFL. Hmmm Petrino, Ark and ATL may not be all that much different.
Good luck ya sack of crap.
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on December 13, 2007 9:47 AM — 209.183.55.47 — link — abuse?
Ga Boy, You're the one who's dreaming kiddo! All I did was relay a rumor (probably true) about Mark Richt talking to Rich McKay and your response includes promising TWO CONSECUTIVE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS for UGA????? You should lay off the LSD and the demon weed for a while, dude! Get some fresh air! Clear your head!
Winning "one in a row" over Florida does not make UGA a great team. Try having a little respect for the competition out there and you won't sound like such a ridiculous homer!
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on December 13, 2007 9:57 AM — 209.183.55.47 — link — abuse?
...and another thing...
Ga Boy sez...
"Besides, Richt is a winner and he is not going to take over a program that cannot win... Do you honestly think that he would leave GA for the pathetic Falcons?"
Since you seem to have limited memory, I'll remind you that he left a winning program at FSU for a marginal program at UGA. So, yes - I think it's possible he could leave as he's done it before.
There are two retired NFL coaches who live in my neighborhood, including one directly across the street from me and the other about two blocks away. When one of them tells me that Richt is talking to McKay, I tend to believe it. Doesn't mean that Richt will jump ship, but I certainly think he's interested (i.e. I'm not dreaming).
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on December 13, 2007 10:05 AM — 209.183.55.47 — link — abuse?
...and another thing...
Ga Boy sez...
"Besides, Richt is a winner and he is not going to take over a program that cannot win... Do you honestly think that he would leave GA for the pathetic Falcons?"
Since you seem to have limited memory, I'll remind you that he left a winning program at FSU for a marginal program at UGA. So, yes - I think it's possible he could leave as he's done it before.
There are two retired NFL coaches who live in my neighborhood, including one directly across the street from me and the other about two blocks away. When one of them tells me that Richt is talking to McKay, I tend to believe it. Doesn't mean that Richt will jump ship, but I certainly think he's interested (i.e. I'm not dreaming).
dawgfan said:
posted on December 13, 2007 11:05 AM — 65.222.248.66 — link — abuse?
Ramblin Gator - CMR is absolutely not talking to the falcons. His name has come up in coaching conversations b/f and he always said he will not leave UGA unless he is thrown out. Difference is, he is actually telling the truth. And this stuff about mediocre UGA program. Funny you say that b/c UGA either the #1 or #2 amount of wins in the SEC in the past 10 years and historically it is absolutely one of the top tier programs. Most experts say it is around #5 or #6 in terms of top college coaching jobs in the country. Georgia is #11 in the country is # of wins ever and MORE IMPORTANTLY #12 in all time winning %. Florida is also a top tier program so I'm not doing the UGA/FL "who is better" thing. Lets just be honest here.
Southern Fried Bulldog said:
posted on December 13, 2007 11:16 AM — 206.170.208.254 — link — abuse?
@51 Jon, regardless of what was going on in the locker room, management offices, or any other extenuating circumstances that may have been a factor, NO ONE should bolt on a team mid-season. That's not soapbox talk, that's just saying a coach should be expected to live up to his word and not quit on the organization, fans, and players. Can you imagine the flak a player would receive if they did that??? They would be forever branded with the "quitter" tag and never be forgiven.
Petrino's a bum and will be out of Arkansas just as soon as the next shiny object catches his eye.
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on December 13, 2007 11:23 AM — 216.10.193.20 — link — abuse?
Dawgfan, I AM being honest. I heard this rumor from a retired NFL coach who still does recruiting and talent analysis for two NFL teams. I passed it on here as a service to others. If you don't want to believe me, fine - you can stop reading and responding to my posts.
My observation about UGA being a lesser program was with repsect to what they were when Richt moved over from FSU. Ga Boy claimed that Richt wound never leave a winning team to lead a losing team and my point was that he did it before. Obviously, UGA is a better program now and Richt is largely responsible for that change.
Incidentally, Stewart Mandel considers UGA a second tier program (I'm sure you can find the article in his archives) so not every "expert" thinks UGA belongs at the top.
gatorhippy
posted on December 13, 2007 11:28 AM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
Mandel is not alone in that belief...
Keltic Gator attempts to explain why UGA is not a top tier prgram in any sport in this December 2006 writeup...
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on December 13, 2007 12:21 PM — 216.10.193.20 — link — abuse?
Here's a link to Mandel's article (regarding UGA being a tier-2 program):
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/08/08/cfb.bag/index.html
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on December 13, 2007 1:14 PM — 76.182.205.22 — link — abuse? said:
No disrespect to Arkansas, but that "Calling the Hogs" is one of the lamest things i have ever seen associated with a college football team. Close second's are the Aggies "yell's" and their all male cheerleaders.
GA Boy said:
posted on December 13, 2007 9:39 PM — 97.89.26.241 — link — abuse?
Ramblin Gator, my apologies. I did not realize you were so close with former NFL coaches and had the inside track. Do you happen to know tomorrow's fantasy five numbers also? Anybody from the GA Lotto live your neighborhood? Thanks for the public service annoucement.
Also, GA was not a "losing" program prior to Richt coming to Athens.
'97--10-2
'98--9-3
'99--8-4
'00--8-4
Obviously not a top tier team, but not a bottom dweller like the Falcons.
Man you Gator guys get on my nerves. Let's see
'02--8-5
'03--8-5
'04--7-5
'05--9-3
How's that record sound to you? FLA's four year run there looked real good too. Last year you beat Vandy by 6, Carolina by 1, the DAWGS by 7, and then beat an Ohio State team that at least 5 teams from the SEC would have beat for the NC. Yeah, I am a GA homer that hates the Gators. The next 2 years are going to be a pleasure.
GO DAWGS!Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on December 14, 2007 12:10 AM — 216.10.193.20 — link — abuse?
Wow, Ga Boy! That 3 and 15 record against the Gators must REALLY sting! That "duck-throwing", Heisman-winning Tebow must REALLY hurt too since Stafford is so damned brilliant!
Since you are so interested in my prognostication skills, here's a prediction for you: someday you will ACTUALLY learn to read so I won't need to defend or rephrase my posts for you in a way that EVEN YOU can understand and won't misinterpret in a stupid and cretinous way. For now, I'm going to give up trying as it appears that Athens "education" (sic) of yours didn't take.
BTW, I take back all the nice thinks I said about Moreno. He's a loser, punk.
Go Hawaii - euthanize the mutts!!
Have a nice day!
dawgfan said:
posted on December 14, 2007 8:48 AM — 65.222.248.66 — link — abuse?
Ramblin Gator - The fact that you say Moreno sucks is like telling everyone, "Don't believe anything I say...Im stupid." I mean, come on. If you really believe a freshman who had almost 1500 yards (while splitting time the first 1/2 of the season) sucks you are an unintelligent person. I'll be the first to tell you Tebow is a stud and Harvin is a freakin play maker. Moreno carved up Auburns defense like no one else this year.
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on December 14, 2007 1:50 PM — 216.10.193.20 — link — abuse?
Dawgfan, that's the difference between you and GayBoy - you're not a complete homer (and neither am I - I'm just tired of GayBoy taking my statements and twisting them for his benefit). I posted several months ago that Moreno is in the same mold as Emmitt Smith, Hershcel Walker and Bo Jackson - destined for greatness. Feel free to search and I'm sure you will find it. Those of you who are Dawg fans and not complete homers, please take that statement as an expression of my admiration for your gifted RB. For all you homer mutt fans (yes, I'm talking to you GayBoy and everyone like you)...
Knowshon don't know shee-ott.
Zac said:
posted on December 14, 2007 3:10 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
Gatorstud, anyone who loves his dad, at least as much as I do mine, can't be all bad, Gator fan or not. He is now the subject of my prayers, not only to enjoy the holiday season, but for a quick recovery.
He has a lot in common with my dad; i.e. from a time when handshakes settled accords, when folks meant what they said, and said what they meant, when "attorney-eeze" hadn't been recognized as a language yet. All the best to you, your dad, and your entire family.
T-Mac, I'm chiming in on this Petrino debate. To a point, I agree with Jon (Post 51). I wasn't there; I don't know what motivated Petrino to his post without any more notice than this phone call - I also agree with you, in that, it was not the right thing to do.
I believe in leadership by example, and I feel Petrino's actions set a poor example. Whether or not he was "justified" by someone else's actions or not, Petrino still owed "something" to at least the vast majority of his players. Quitting was not it.
I will admit to not having been impressed with Saban’s actions when he lied to his team; told them he wasn’t taking the Bama job. This too set a poor example and challenged his credibility. At least he stuck it out for the entire season.
I am just as disappointed with Rich Rodriguez regarding his involvement with AL. It wasn't that he might have been hired for bigger money, it was his down-playing the entire thing, as if talks between him and AL weren't serious. When asked about a conversation he had with Bama's AD, just before the story broke, he said something to the effect that "...it was no big deal..."; then turned to his wife, Rita, and asked"...they only talked, what, for 20 minutes?" To which she replied, "...it was an hour and a half." I guess time flies when you're being considered for a high profile, high prestige, and high paying, HC job.
I wish it weren't true, but it does seem as if some coaches can't stay in one place, or are never satisfied with what they have - they always have to get more.
As far as the Mark Richt talking to anyone, talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words, such as his telling his team one week that they shouldn't jump on the other team's logo, only to have them take an excessive celebration penalty the following week. Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth...
The point is this: If you’re looking for good coaches in college football, they can be found. Four of the better ones are discussed here-in. If you're looking for Saints, college football is the wrong place. Thing is, you don't have to be a saint to have honor, and that most of all seems to be what's missing here. Just a thought.
Tomcat said:
posted on December 14, 2007 4:34 PM — 69.148.199.64 — link — abuse?
Just got back from the cattle auction went to buy some cows for my uncle, didnt buy any too expensive the beef fajitas were good though, feel kinda like T-Mac I'll post when I can.
Been reading these posts
Who are we to judge?
Every day you do what is right because its the right thing to do.Decisions are made continually and most are weighted out between different pros & cons.Is Petrino just an discruntle empolyee that walked off of his job.Did he hate his job and seize an opportunity when it presented itself.In other words there are probably alot of stuff messed up in Atlanta other than just their record. How much control does a head coach really have in the NFL as opposed to the college game? Was this Munity on the bounty or the captain didnt go down with the ship or was he really the captain.Have you ever had a job were you had little or no control and no matter how hard you worked you couldnt correct the numerous problems that exsisted because they were beyond your control.Then theres a way out of this trainwreck prior to the crash, then an opportunity presents itself and you have to seize it, you have to grab a holt and hang on for the ride.
Did he bolt on his team?- Yes
Did he disappoint his fans & players? -Yes
Did he do what he felt was best for him & his family?- Yes
Atlanta will get another coach its not the end of the world or anything like that and at least yalls team hasn't left town like the Houston Oilers, heck we now like Tenn Titans
Heck look at Cardinals, Rams, Colts,Browns, Raiders ETC. Its NFL there is no loyalty heck they do whatever.
Gatorstud Bless you and your family
Gotta go now, do some deer huntin and beer drinkin I cant help it, its who I am
Adios TomcatBig Tide said:
posted on December 14, 2007 6:40 PM — 12.208.88.211 — link — abuse?
Everybody's is lynching Petrino, but let's look at Arthur Blank's role in the fiasco. First of all, and T-Mac probably knows the skinny, I read or heard somewhere that Petrino had a clause in his contract that would not allow him to leave for another NFL job. If he was fired, then he would have been free to pursue other NFL jobs, but he could not leave the Falcons to take another NFL coaching position. Why not just extend that to college football as well? Now I'm beginning to understand why Home Depot's bottom line has taken a skid lately if he's running that business the way he's running the Falcons.
posted on December 14, 2007 6:47 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Tomcat: I've been to ten thousand auto auctions, being a dealer, but have never been to a livestock auction. I've always thought it would be interesting to see. I can judge a car in 45 seconds but I'm curious how I'd do with a heffer...the 4-legged variety, that is....
Zac said:
posted on December 14, 2007 11:15 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Tomcat, if anyone asks, "Where's the beef?", suffice it to say, you have the answer.
WarEagleA, I can imagine a used car commercial with you in it:
With "Dealer" on the mound, "Buyer" steps up to the "plate". "Dealer" checks his "signs". He goes into his wind-up, and here's the "pitch". It's a home run!!!
(Actually, I may be in need of a car maybe we can chat off line...)
Tomcat said:
posted on December 14, 2007 11:41 PM — 69.148.199.64 — link — abuse?
WarEagATL Really man I find that kinda hard to believe, my brother and I used to skip school one day a week to work at the auction barn here in town.Its really a purty cool part time job for teenagers, running up an alley hollering with a stick earning minimum wage, beats the hell outa working at the packing plant.There is an auction in every town around us all on a different day of the week.If one gets sick or something you load the thing up and haul it to the auction, we call it put the wheels under her -ss.
I dont know anything about buying cars at a auction and with cattle you really never stop learning.There are so many different things to judge and it really takes years of experience.
There are alot of guys who are professional cattle buyers who purchase cattle for different customers they go to different sell barns every day and buy cattle. They also do alot wheelin & dealing, moving stuff around and jumping in on anything that they could profit off of.These guys perform valuabule services for their different clients and as in any other businness its always buy low and sell high. The market is always changing and there are alot of different factors that effect the market prices at different times and its always been that way.
Its the age old system of supply & demand and many things like the amount of rain and the cost of corn & hay are directly connected to the cost of beef cattle. If its a drought then the cost of Hay & corn goes up, people have to sell more to purchase the feed, resulting in more cattle being sold, so the price drops.
There are alot of different things to consider when buying cattle, some are real obvious like , age, weight, breed, price, temperment, health etc. etc. What are you after? you can pay 1,400 on a big purty fancy well bred beautiful young heifer thats heavy bred and she can die and then you can buy a junky old cow cheap for like 500 bucks. Let her raise one calf then load both of them up and sell them a year later and double your money.
Could probably write a book on the subject and you could about cars.I really enjoyed going out there today, its part of who I am.
You get a chance WarEagl go to a local auction and just hang out, visit with the old timers and the young kids, walk out on the catwalk and look at whats there, get some mess on your boots.
7 days without beef makes 1 weak
Hookem-Horns
posted on December 15, 2007 1:02 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Tomcat: I'm quite sure that if you don't get a little mess on your boots, you didn't really go. Interesting. It sounds appealing for one day for me to buy some land and raise some cattle. I'd have to learn about them real quick.
Zac: Might be hard to get a car shipped to Nebraska, but you never know. Unless you decided to fly in to Atlanta and drive her back home. What are you looking for?
Tomcat said:
posted on December 15, 2007 1:54 PM — 69.148.199.64 — link — abuse?
WarEagATL Being a car dealer could be quite profitable, dont quit your day job.Ever heard of Red McCombs or Tom Benson both of those guys made millions selling cars.
Youre the walking mans best friend,do you own your own lot? Sounds exciting to me and theres a sucker born every minute.Working on commision is both challeging and rewarding, bet you have dozens of closes. I know that it can be up & down, like close two deals in one day then go a week without a sell.Being located in a big city is certainly advantagus and you can write your own paycheck.
Red McCombs owns the Minn Vikings
Tom Benson owns the N.O. Saints
posted on December 15, 2007 2:33 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
TC: Yea, I'm an independent dealer, not a franchise. I think McCombs and Benson both owned multiple franchise stores, which is like a license to print money.
I like my job most days. I get to sit around a lot and wait for people to throw money at me. Wish that was happening, today, though...
Zac said:
posted on December 16, 2007 10:26 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
TC, I know what's like to get a little $hit on my boots. I like horses and used to ride; got over 150 hours English Saddle training. Never did any of that jumping stuff, or competition riding. Just did it cause I liked it. Trust me; I know what it's like to care for a horse, from brushing it down daily to mucking out its stall. Just don't know much about cattle. But, hey, it's Beef, and that's what's for dinner.
War Eagle, I'm looking for safe, reliable, and comfortable transportation for my wife. It doesn't have to get 80 miles to the gallon, but 25 would be nice. It doesn't have to be sporty, SE Asian, or European; just well made. She's got a '94 Sable; it's got over 150K on it, and is beginning to feel its last legs. I have family in Dallas, GA, maybe 30-40 minutes from Atlanta. (You'd be surprised what I can arrange, when I put my mind to it.) So, if ya haz any ideas, let me know as time allows.
Kev, you have my permission to give Tomcat & War Eagle Atlanta my e-mail address. That way, I'm not taking up all this blogging space for non-college football stuff.
Tomcat said:
posted on December 16, 2007 11:59 AM — 68.93.140.127 — link — abuse?
Zac I really dont know too much about horses except they eat about three times as much as a cow.I had one when I was a kid.Hay-burners what we call them and they are still used around here but I prefer a pickup with a horn and a sack of cubes.Drop that tailgate and have a kid sit back there and shake that sack of feed, heck theyll follow you, we can pen and work alot of animals without horses or dogs.
BTW " Beef its whats for dinner" those adds cost us producers 1 dollar per head in addition to the usual 3% to 3.5% commission charged by the sell barns.
Back on subject
That Pig Sooie stuff is purty lame
Hookem-Horns
WarEagATL sounds like you got it going on, man my inlaws buy used vehicles so often that its kinda funny.These women just put gas in them and run the heck out of them,till they blow up or quit,then turn around and get another one.
Jon said:
posted on December 11, 2007 7:20 PM — 68.84.19.20 — link — abuse?w00t.
As if the SEC wasn't already good enough.
Man the SEC = shark territory.