November 7, 2007
Tuberville addresses Texas A&M rumors
Auburn head coach Tommy Tuberville gave some quality non-answers during his press conference on Tuesday when asked about the rumors that he will be the next head coach at Texas A&M.
"Every year, for some reason, my name gets thrown in for a lot of them," said Tuberville. "That's just part of it. After we started off 1-2, I thought I was going to have to be taking a job at the end of the year one way or the other."As I told our players, that's the least of our worries or anybody's worries. They work very hard – the players, the coaches and the fans look forward to these two games – and we're not going to ruin it by discussing any of that stuff because anything I say will be looked at, turned around and flipped around. It doesn't make any difference."
Tuberville also addressed fan concerns that the Auburn administration is not doing enough to lock him up contractually.
"It's better to wait," said Tuberville. "We've talked. It's better to wait [until the end of the season]. We do it every year. That's how it is done. There's no reason to change that. There's no urgency about anything."I told them this is what our players work for, to play these two games. We don't want to break stride from that at all. We want it to be for the players and the fans, and everything else will take care of itself."
Jay Coulter says that Tuberville will listen politely to Texas A&M but won't leave Auburn, in part, because of his loyalty to his assistant coaches.
What may ultimately keep Tuberville at Auburn are his assistant coaches. He has five assistants on staff that followed him from Ole Miss in 1999. In two years they become vested in the Alabama State Retirement System. It’s a significant perk and something that Tuberville badly wants for his guys.I may be wrong, but after calling around today and talking to numerous people, I feel pretty good about Tuberville remaining at Auburn.
I'm not sure I buy that logic. After all, there would be nothing stopping Texas A&M from allowing Tuberville to bring his entire coaching staff and locking them into longer-term contracts, something they do not currently have at AU.
Facility-wise and booster-wise, there is no question that Texas A&M is far superior to Auburn. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. The Aggies have everything you could ever want for your program. And if they dream up something new, they have the support to bring it College Station. That said... Texas A&M is not a premiere program. They are -- at best -- fourth fiddle in the Big XII (behind UT, OU, and Nebraska).
In my opinion, the one thing that might bind Tuberville to the Tigers is simply the status of Auburn, specifically, and the SEC, in general.
We can argue positioning until we're all blue in the face and the cows have long since come home, but there is no question that the SEC is one of, if not THE, top conferences in the nation. And within the SEC, Auburn is near the top of the heap every year.
While I have no doubt that Tuberville could raise the bar and bring the Aggies closer to the national stage, the A&M job is an inferior position. Tuberville would be taking a step backwards, if you will. If someone can convince Tuberville of that argument, then he might just stay at Auburn.
However, I don't think that will be the case. I do believe that Tuberville will leave Auburn to become the next head coach at Texas A&M. (And perhaps for the exact reason I just mentioned - because he can raise the bar at A&M and within the Big XII).
Time will tell....
Comments:
TE
posted on November 7, 2007 10:45 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse?
said:
Not sure you're giving the retirement deal its just due...That's exactly the reason Morris Watts wouldn't leave Michigan State for LSU back when Saban took over in 1999...
Free lifetime healthcare is a huge deal for a lot of older people, especially in this day & age...
Also...again...Tuberville finally got the Little Emperor off his back when Lowder screwed up the Petrino hire...Or should we just call that the Tuberville Fire? Now that he's got breathing room, money, and tenure, I just don't see how the A&M move for him makes any sense at all...
dawgfan said:
posted on November 7, 2007 11:09 AM — 65.222.248.66 — link — abuse?
I don't understand all of the hoop-la about Tubberville. Not including his Ole Miss era, He had 74 wins coming into this season. That is 9.25 per year (3 of those were 12 game seasons). He has only had (2) sesons w/ double digit wins, he has only been to the SEC Championship game twice and only won the conference once. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a good coach, but I don't think he is worth the $$$ A&M is about to throw at him. He has to win out this year to get his 3rd double digit win season out of 9 seasons. For the type of money he is about to get, it just seems like his numbers would be better.
posted on November 7, 2007 12:58 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
Dawgfan: I can't say that I disagree with anything you say in post #4. Saban isn't even worth Saban money. Don't think that Tommy is either...
Kevin: Is the following passage from you or is it a direct quote from Jay Jacobs?
"What may ultimately keep Tuberville at Auburn are his assistant coaches. He has five assistants on staff that followed him from Ole Miss in 1999. In two years they become vested in the Alabama State Retirement System. It's a significant perk and something that Tuberville badly wants for his guys. I may be wrong, but after calling around today and talking to numerous people, I feel pretty good about Tuberville remaining at Auburn."
The reson I ask is that the sentence following that appears to contradict the passage, saying that "I'm not sure I buy that logic."
Didn't know which were your comments, or someone else's.
posted on November 7, 2007 1:06 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Something interesting thing I heard mentioned yesterday, while watching a talking head football show, was the rumour that Dennis Erickson might be looking to get into the SEC. Many believe he's just biding his time at Arizona State. If there was a vacancy at Auburn, and Erickson was in fact looking for an avenue into God's conference, you gotta think that the Tigers would be the most attractive vacancy there.
His detractors might argue that he's a journeyman coach, and that his success at Miami all came from inheriting Jummy Johnson's program. Maybe you might give the critics the first MNC, in 1989, but he won another in '91 and was runner-up in '92. Two MNCs isn't anything to sneeze at. It's an interesting scenario to contemplate, however unlikely it might be. Assuming we were hiring, I'd certainly like a coach in there who has proven he's a winner.
TE
posted on November 7, 2007 1:32 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
That is rather interesting, but, it seems like the landscape of the PAC-10 is changing, and with the season they're putting together (The loss to the Ducks notwithstanding) out there, he may be content to stand pat...
I think we have to go back out there next year, if I'm not mistaken...They got our Katrina game, but they wouldn't allow for it to be considered their home game...We essentially got a two-home game series with the Sun Devils because of Katrina...
Heard it was a fun trip, though...I'm going to try to go out there this go round...
posted on November 7, 2007 3:13 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Gee, I totally forgot. LSU will have a vacancy, too, if we are to believe ALL the coaching rumours. That way, old Dennis can flip a coin between the two Tigers.
If I had to choose which vacancy scenario is more likely, I'd say that Miles to Ann Arbor is, depending on how this season finishes. But, if LSU were to win the big crystal egg, I think it would be excedingly difficult for Miles to leave.
I still say Tuberville plays the ATM fiddle like Spurrier and Rodriguez played the Alabama one.
I think Auburn gets that new indoor practice facility sometime soon!
Spartacus
posted on November 7, 2007 3:13 PM — 72.25.84.228 — link — abuse? said:
I can't see Tubby leaving Auburn. His comments sound very intelligent to me. They just sound right. Yes, he'll leverage Auburn somewhat, but what does he have to gain at A&M? Nothing. More money? You think he needs it? Stature is everything. He has a lifetime job at Auburn and does not strike me as someone who is gonna back down just because Saban is back. The great challenge is to put Auburn back on top of the SEC. Some people just tick by a different kinda clock and Tubbs strikes me as one of those. He stays put.
Tommie Trojan
posted on November 7, 2007 3:17 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Tommie: What about Carroll? Any grumblings in the Trojan camp that you can hear? I still think that Pete is the best coach in 1-A for my money, but no way he jumps ship for anything else but back to the NFL. And I'm not sure he would even do that. If Carroll stayed 15 years in LA, there's no telling what he might get done.
Spartacus
posted on November 7, 2007 4:58 PM — 72.25.84.228 — link — abuse? said:
War Eagle Atlanta:
Come on, man! You know Pete isn't gonna go anywhere. You guys would think we're playin' like Nebraska and Notre Dame or something. We're still lookin' to finish out at 10-2 and then crush somebody in a BCS bowl game. Not much has changed except that the QB got injured this year (broke his dayum hand). No excuse - as we should have beaten Stanford with Booty in a full body cast. But, you can't win them all (only about 90% of em'). Nope, Pete isn't gonna be showin' up at either Nebraska or A&M. We got another stout recruiting class and the thing is just gonna keep rollin'. Good luck to Auburn.
Tommie Trojan
posted on November 7, 2007 5:02 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
No, Tommie, I wasn't insinuating anything about him leaving. I was merely trying to find out if USC has their share of fairweather fans who start complaining at the slightest of pretense.
Carroll could do big things where he's at. I can't believe that he would find a better situation anywhere else.
Spartacus
posted on November 7, 2007 5:32 PM — 72.25.84.228 — link — abuse? said:
War Eagle Atlanta,
Well, it's a little of a letdown after all the pre-season pub - but the pressure is off. It's just kinda different. It's not the coaches fault. We've been really fortunate to have had great receivers and no injured QB's. Last year we had some injuries and this year we've had a few more. But, overall the team has enormous talent and could massacre somebody on any given day. The defense is really coming on. The just destroyed Oregon State last week. We're pretty pleased with that "D" right now and I think Nate Longshore is gonna be terrified out of his mind this coming weekend. He's not Denis Dixon and he's not gonna get away.
I haven't heard anybody gripe at all. It's just gonna be another "down year" with two losses and probaby only a #5 finish.Tommie Trojan
posted on November 7, 2007 7:21 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Tell me about pressure, Tommie. The biggest death knell for Auburn is to have them highly ranked at the start of the season. They can't handle it. When the expectations are high, they founder.
Having a loss or two does ease the tension. Probably makes the season more fun for the kids, sometimes, too.
hrposon said:
posted on November 7, 2007 8:22 PM — 98.200.123.115 — link — abuse?
@11 WEA - You surprised when you said Pete Carroll was the best head coach in Div 1. I never thought much about it, but I always thought Pete was blessed with a boat load of talent. Some of his superstars seemed to do as they pleased. An example was when he motioned to Leinert in the 2005 ND game to spike the ball but Leinert over rode him.
It may have been a ruse but I don't think so.
I can't picture Bob Stoops tolerating that.Tomcat said:
posted on November 8, 2007 1:37 AM — 69.150.79.102 — link — abuse?
#12 Tommie T I agree and now the Neb and ND game dont really help yalls SOS too much now and after that Stanford game I kinda doubt that SC is going to a BCS bowl, but dont give up hope afterall yall are the Media darlings.
There are so many quality 1 & 2 loss teams that P.C. and the Trojans will be on the outside this year.Too bad yall didnt have Hawaii scheduled this year.Who woulda thought that would be bigger than Neb or ND? Who woulda thought that now the
UConn vs Cinn or the Missu vs KU would be the big ones. Hawaii vs Bois?
Go La Tech Bulldogs beat LSU
Sicem-Bears beat OU
Go Cowboys beat KUTE
posted on November 8, 2007 11:15 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Well, well, well...The coaching carousel's speeding up after what I've learned last night, and this morning...
Kevin can vouch for my sources...They're typically pretty much on target (save for the e-mails I've sent him talking about how our games are going to go, of course)...
But, we got some interesting information on our site today about a certain superagent that represents at least three SEC coaches...Two of those three being in the SEC West...
It seems this agent contacted LSU's BOS yesterday about any possibility of a coaching vacancy, and to express interest...
Don't worry, Bama...it ain't you...
I think you guys would be surprised at the daisy-chain we're piecing together over on our site...
But, it looks like the SEC is in for a major shakeup if things work out like some are foreseeing...
Then again, I could be completely wrong...
I'll let you guys stew for awhile...See if any of you have any guesses that hit close to the mark...
posted on November 8, 2007 11:38 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
hrposen: Since I don't have time to analyze these coaches, I have to be results oriented. And so far this century, Carroll has produced more results than any other coach. Could it boil down to good old fashioned luck? Sure, but is it coincidence that USC awoke from a two-decade old dormancy exactly when Pete arrived?
Sweetie Homer: Auburn is currently ranked higher than Alabama, and they'll finish the season that way, too.
posted on November 8, 2007 11:49 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
TE's riddle wasn't that hard. You simply go over to any LSU message board and see what they're moaning about.
The agent in question is Jimmy Sexton, and he represents a multitude of coaches, including but not limited to: Tommy Tuberville, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Houston Nutt.
I think the corndogs are fearful that Miles may bolt for Michigan and they'll end up with Tuberville. "Nice shot! Choose any coach from the middle shelf!"
Didn't happen 3 years ago, won't happen now.
But it's oh so fun to speculate!
TE
posted on November 8, 2007 12:03 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Only head coaches, and War Eagle...You're cold, which via process of elimination, I've given you the two clues to piece together the rest...
Oh, and by the way...
Seems as though Miles' daughter Smack is an elite-and I'm talking Olympic level elite-swimmer that has, well...swam circles around the competition, if you will.
Just so happens that Michael Phelps and the rest of the Olympic level swimmers of both genders for the US train in Ann Arbor, Michigan...
Hmm...
gatorhippy
posted on November 8, 2007 12:07 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
TE (#24):
Miles' daughter's name is Smack????
No need to wonder what's wrong with Miles anymore if that's the case...
It's obvious then he is a genius along the lines of Frank Zappa if he's naming his kids like that...
Spartacus
posted on November 8, 2007 12:22 PM — 72.25.84.228 — link — abuse? said:
Tomcat,
This is exactly why we have sportswriters (who only watch games from their own regions), coaches (who are busy with their own game plans for 96 hours a week) and senile ex-coaches or players (who have lived way past their usefullness) to make these BCS decisions. Let's leave this to the "professionals". LOL! Seriously, aren't you the guy who was adament that the Aggies were gonna beat Cal last year? What did I tell you then?
I'll tell you this now. If USC gets by California, Arizona State and UCLA - they play in a BCS Bowl game. Because: these five teams are very shaky and four will probably drop out anyway. Georgia (marginal and will probably drop one more game), Boston College (will lose again and maybe to Virginia Tech on a nuetral field), Virginia Tech (same as BC - so one of these two must go), Michigan (does not belong in the BCS and will lose to Ohio State anyway) and Arizona State (will probably lose to USC under this pressure). So, if Michigan loses to Appalachian State (who is worse than Stanford is) and gets bombed by Oregon 38-7 (at home), how do they rate over Southern Cal when SC only lost 17-24 in Autzen? Does anybody remember last years Rose Bowl? Like I said: the voters are all idiots. They somehow have come to beleive that if you were the last team to lose a game - then the other team must be better. That isn't quite right. It's who you lose to and by how much that really matters. Anyway, there are four more weeks and alot is gonna happen in those three weeks. I think that the Big 12 and Pac 10 will both get two teams into BCS games. All USC has to do is win out and it's done. That's a BIG IF.Tommie Trojan
posted on November 8, 2007 12:28 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
What is a 'BOS' anyway? Board of ____? Certainly, Houston Nutt would know he didn't have a chance at LSU. That would leave Spurrier, but I don't think he would leave SC. Last I looked, Baton Rouge wasn't anywhere near Augusta National.
And speaking of Augusta National, Auburn's fabled 'Amen Corner' commences this weekend. The Georgia and Alabama games, always the last two on our schedule, was nicknamed that by former coach and native Augustan, Pat Dye. Par, anyone?
Spartacus
posted on November 8, 2007 1:04 PM — 72.25.84.228 — link — abuse? said:
Tomcat,
I was real disappointed last year that they had scheduled Idaho. After all the bitchin' that I had done about other teams scheduling of Division II teams - we scheduled Idaho? Well, it might not have been so bad had Notre Dame or Nebraska been able to win a game. All three of these teams just keep getting blown out by more and more each week. It's killin' the Trojans in the BCS standings. No matter how well they start to play - these three teams find a way to play even worse than SC played good. That drives your rating downward.
After screwin' up the Raiders - Callahan has found a way, even after takin' two good thumpins' by the Trojan's, to sink USC also. Don't they have people in Nebraska who dress up in red bedsheets and could make a christmas tree ornament out of this clown? And, Charlie Weis? What can you say other than I hope he keeps that job forever. But, when you beat a team by your largest margin in history and it still hurts your rating, then that is about as pathetic as it can get. I only hope that Willingham gets Washington into a BCS Bowl game before Notre Dame even sniffs the "Car Care" bowl.Tommie Trojan
taggy80 said:
posted on November 8, 2007 1:28 PM — 158.35.225.228 — link — abuse?
From deep within the A&M Athletic program the story is - and I posted this two weeks ago - that Fran is canned, stays thru the end of the season (duh) and the new coach is Tuberville & his entire staff. I doubt if anything is signed just yet . . . but the agreement has been hammered out. Sit back, and watch it happen - that's what I am going to do. Missouri 41 - Texas A&M 17;
Texas A&M 24 - t-sips (longhorns) 10TE
posted on November 8, 2007 1:41 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Oh, G-Hip...One more addendum...Her actual name is Kathryn, but her nickname is Smacker...
I'm guessing because she was always smacking the water while grinding out laps in the pool, perhaps? That's complete conjecture on my part...
posted on November 8, 2007 1:46 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Taggy80: You remind me of all the Bammers this past winter with their 'Spurrier is coming to Tuscaloosa talk'. They all had the inside information that was absolutely correct. Ha!
Your scenario will not happen. I don't have the time to give you all the reasons it won't, but please don't think that we're not flattered that you're thinking it will. I'm sure Santa will bring the Aggies a new coach by Christmas.
TE
posted on November 8, 2007 4:23 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
SHA,
With your proven track record with sterling background checks and proven hiring process, I'm guessing LSU would rather hire Joe "Jim Beam" Dean to handle its next hiring process before you all out at the Capstone...
Thanks, and all...But, I still have, "IT'S ROLLING, BABY!" in my mind...
Bevo Boy said:
posted on November 8, 2007 4:27 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Taggy80 #35, this is getting a little bit off the subject, but what makes you think that atm could beat Texas? McCoy is finally showing some confidence and is a much better running qb than anyone has given him credit for being. Also, Jamaal is playing like a Heisman candidate. He got 6 TDs in two games. Also, we gave OU a great game, what was aTm's score against OU? I know that a lot can be said about how anyone can beat anyone, just look at Mich v. App. St., USC v. Stanford, and ND v. Navy, but Texas is finally coming together and will beat aTm after beating TTech. Horns 42 Red Raiders 33, Horns 35 Aggies 17. Hook'em horns.
posted on November 8, 2007 4:45 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Sweetie: You're a rookie on here. All this was before you arrived. Here's some links to some threads from last Dec-Jan. Read at your leisure.
http://www.fanblogs.com/alabama/006792.php
http://www.fanblogs.com/alabama/006786.php
(read post 11 on...)Rammer Jammer said:
posted on November 8, 2007 5:04 PM — 199.89.170.92 — link — abuse?
WE ATL
Tubbs will only stick to Texas the way he did Bama if the following things occur: 1) Texas changes coaching staffs 4 times. 2) Texas goes on serious probation.
IMO - This argument is moot. There seems to be way too much speculation going on here.
posted on November 8, 2007 5:05 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Sweet Home: Some of your brethren were hoping and praying Spurrier would come to T-town. They were tracking tail numbers for aircraft registered to SC, saying that they were seen at the Tuscaloosa airport. (like they'd let Spurrier go interviwing in a university airplane) You can find out who from the links above.
Spurrier and Rodriguez played Alabama like a cheap two string fiddle. Only by throwing up a $4 million dollar Hail Mary was Alabama able to avoid the most embarrasing instance of rejection the college football world had ever seen. Had three prospective coaches all turned down Bama, the effect would have been more devastating than any death penalty. The Capstone would have been a graveyard until the end of days.
Did I take joy in that? No, I didn't. But it was a case of the cows coming home, considering Alabama's bad behavior to it's coaches A.B. (after Bryant)
But Tigers don't change their stripes. (Okay, BAD analogy for Alabama) What I mean is that Alabama hasn't changed since Saban's arrival. They're still going to bust his balls. He may be the golden boy now, but it's all gonna end badly. The only question is whether it'll take three years or four.
Ok, let me now hear how much that I, Tuberville, and Auburn fear Saban...
posted on November 8, 2007 5:10 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Poster Formerly Known As Rammer Jammer: Yea, good point. #48 You're probably right. Coaching dysfunction certainly hasn't hurt Auburn's cause.
I'm tired of denying Tubs is leaving. I'm going with it. I'm getting some rumours started. I bet some of them find their way onto ATM message boards.
Sweet Home Alabama said:
posted on November 8, 2007 10:32 PM — 75.120.246.143 — link — abuse?
#49 I was simply making reference to the fact that you made it sound like a blanket endorsement for Spurrier. I am so happy that he didn't come. A lot of what you heard was right here on this forum. There is a world outside of this place. Don’t be fooled into thinking that what you read hear is the gospel truth for all of the state of Alabama. I live here. I have a lot of BAMA fans and sadly for them, some Auburn fans. No one and I mean no one that I know was speculating that Spurrier would come to Bama.
I have been on this board off and on for two years with other user names. I decided to let everyone know where I’m from and who I support.
BTW, I have noticed that you always take every opportunity to make fun of BAMA. Therefore you won't be surprised that I poke fun at Auburn. Deep down I hold no animosity toward Auburn. They are just trying to win like we are and I do think that Tubby is a good coach.
I read somewhere that you were commenting to someone about not being as annoying as TE. I agree, cause that guy ain’t right.
Anyway, just thought that you should know that I'm not an Auburn hater, okay pookie?
Tomcat said:
posted on November 8, 2007 11:11 PM — 69.150.79.102 — link — abuse?
#27 Tommie T I have to admit that sometimes my predictions on this forum are B/S intended to stir up some stuff, others are just wishful thinking.I really stunk up two predictions last year during the Bowls, call me a homer or whatever, Ya I picked Rice over Troy and A&M over Cal. These are teams that Texas faces ever year so I was kinda pulling for them in their Bowls.
Oregon has really inproved alot and Dixon is fun to watch.I kinda figured they were for real after they beat Houston.Then they beat Michigan on the road.So USC's loss to those guys is really not as embarassing as losing to some other{lesser opponent} example{ KSU over Texas} or and you know { Stanford over USC}.
Sorry to admit it, but you may be right, after all USC lost two conference games last year and went to a BCS game.For a team in the XII like Texas for example in order to get in a BCS game you have to go undefeated or have one loss during the season against the #2 team in the nation.
I will agree that your senerio has a big IF in it. We have apparently gotten way off the main topic of this post.Would you not agree that teams from the Big-10 and Pac-10 have an atvantage with the current system as opposed to teams from the
SEC or XII ?
Gigem-Aggies beat Missu
Sicem Bears beat OU
Go Cowboys beat KUTomcat said:
posted on November 8, 2007 11:38 PM — 69.150.79.102 — link — abuse?
#46 WarEagATL Ya your probably right and Brown will probably go somewhere else outa fear from Tubberville just like Tubbs running away from Saban.LOL the truth is that you can throw out all the records when it comes to UT vs A&M. In fact is their whole program for a hundred years is designed and focused on one common goal beating Texas.I watched the Aggie Connection T.V. show today and they featured the 10 greatest games in A&M history.The game they featured today was the 1967 UT vs A&M game in which they beat the Horns 10-7 in College station.That was the same year that they beat Bama in the Cotton Bowl, but to Aggie fans the UT game was more important, one of the greatest moments in the history of the program. Heck last years victory in Austin will go down in the A&M history for generations of Aggies to relish and enjoy for centuries as one of the greatest Aggie accomplishments of all time.
Hookem-Horns
And yall thought that Bama fans are fanaticaldawgfan said:
posted on November 9, 2007 8:27 AM — 65.222.248.66 — link — abuse?
War Eagle Atl - Yes Tubberville has beaten bama 5 or 6 times in a row now, but dont act like he has been beating a pernnial top 10 team or anything. Bama hasnt even been a pernnial top 25 team the last 6 years. If their name wasnt bama, they would have been looked at like Vandy or Miss St the last 6 years.
Sweet Home Alabama said:
posted on November 9, 2007 9:06 AM — 75.120.246.143 — link — abuse?
#58 you make some good points. We have had some close games even though Bama has been on the down side since Stallings left.
It will be interesting to see how we compete with Auburn and Tubbs when we are on a level playing field.
I for one hope that Tubbs stays at Auburn. There would be less satisfaction in beating his predecessor. Even the most die-hard Auburn fan can't believe that their win streak won't come to an end.
Spartacus
posted on November 9, 2007 9:13 AM — 72.25.84.228 — link — abuse? said:
Tomcat,
I think it's an advantage for the team that wins a Conference Championship game. It's a detriment to the team who loses in it. The winner will benefit from having a stronger SOS and more style points during a week in which not too many others play. This sways voters who can only remember what they saw last Saturday (I think the reason that BEast teams can't get rated higher is that some have played alot on Thursday and Friday and that most of these feebs who vote can't remember that long ago). The loser on the other hand - can be launched smooth out of a BCS Bowl game. Let's use the BIG XII as the example this year. Let's say Missouri beats Kansas and both of those teams end up at 11-1. Kansas would go on to meet Oklahoma for the CC. Let's say Oklahoma wins. Well then, Missouri at 11-2, doesn't look quite that good now. They could take Kansas or bump the Big XII altogether. This probably won't happen this year, as I'm sure that the Big XII will have at least two reps this year, but the scenario has happened before. The only reason that I say that the Pac 10 could get two reps is because USC will probably finish 2nd. Under that scenario the Pac could get two. Under no other circumstance does the Pac ever get two. I can see a 10-2 Arizona State team being left out should USC finish at 9-3.
But, the bottom line has always been about the green stuff and it will never change. It's more likely that the PAC, Big 10 and BEast are soon gonna change to the Conference Championship format. Personally, I don't like it. I think that it's pretty stupid to give your very best team another chance to lose a game - therefore hurting their chances for the better bowl game that they had already played the entire season for. Quite often, there is an upset during these games.
OBTW, I miss on alot of games too.Tommie Trojan
posted on November 9, 2007 12:15 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Sweet Home: I hear ya. I don't hold any animosity towards any of the regular guys on here. All the disturbed people tend to be drive-by posters who leave almost immediately.
What were your other names on here? Your tone sounds somewhat familiar.
Yea, it just wouldn't seem right if Tuberville left the table without giving Alabama the chance to win their money back...
Tomcat said:
posted on November 9, 2007 1:58 PM — 70.243.65.16 — link — abuse?
#60 Tommie T Yes we are somewhat inagreement,it really doesnt make any since for teams to face each other twice during the same season.Texas has only been to the CCG three times and all the times they had to face the same opponent that they beat during the regular season.The Horns went 1-2 in those games.It hard to believe that a team that goes undefeated, winning their conference champ game against a team they faced during regular season and doesnt get a shot at the NC game{ AU 04}.
Back on topic-Fran is leaving, the question is not who's coming to A&M, but rather who's coming to Auburn? Sorry War Eagle these so-called rumors must have teeth in them.
Art Briles ?
posted on November 9, 2007 2:21 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
See, Randy, I thought that was you. I even went back and checked the IP address, it was different than the one you have now.
Remember when, after the Auburn-Arkansas game last year, you told me that you thought it would have been a long drive back to Atlanta for me?
And do you remember when I told you that the drive back from Tuscaloosa was rather pleasant?
Where did the Bama fan Chris go? He's been conspicuously absent this fall. Maybe he's actually Big Tide.
Tomcat: You really think so? Think it's a done deal, huh? I'm not so sure. You be my eyes and ears in Texas though...
posted on November 9, 2007 6:55 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Are you talking about SoCal USMC? Yea, he dropped of the face of the earth. He wrote even longer posts than TE does. They weren't as long as T-Macs, though, but T-Mac uses one line per sentence.
*T-Mac doesn't necessarily approve this message. Shout out to T-Mac. I know he posts when he can!
Sweet Home Alabama said:
posted on November 9, 2007 9:20 PM — 75.120.246.143 — link — abuse?
WEA I'm not a 100% sure but I think that I used my name. That seems like a hundred years ago.
I didn't understand #65's question but I changed names so that everyone would know where I am posting from and which team I support. With a lot of the people on this forum you just have to guess which team is their team.
Tomcat said:
posted on November 9, 2007 10:00 PM — 69.150.79.102 — link — abuse?
#64 WarEagATL Na man I just threw that stuff out there, thats how these things get started right?
Got to admit, He would be a good selection for some program.The season isnt even over yet and there are going to be some coaching vacancies.
Perhaps our buddy Kev will start another coaching carosael thread. I can spell merrygoround.
Nebraska
Baylor
Texas A&M
SMU
Will all have new coaches next year for sure
Auburn???
Houston???
Bois St ???
Ark ????
Mich???
LSU???
posted on November 10, 2007 11:45 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
What happened with TE going to drop a major coaching rumour on us? What's up with the sensationalist reporting, TE? TE should be around here today, LSU only plays Lah Tech.
Sweet Home: Yes, you were Randy. We had quite a few verbal jousts. Sometimes when people sign up for this, they don't think about the 'flying the colors' thing to identify their program, which is fine. Some guys just leave it that way, but if they're on here enough, you remember who they're for. For example, Tomcat: He pulls for every team in Texas and the old Southwest Conference! haha!
And Tomcat: Yea, that's why I've embraced the Tuberville to ATM stance. Might as well have some fun with it. So many people get on here and claim that they have the definitive inside information, when in fact, they're just full of shit.
Eye of the Tiger: Sweet Home Alabama isn't SoCal.
posted on November 12, 2007 5:56 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Well, Sweet Home, if Auburn does manage to win, you don't have to worry about me gloating like TE does. My southern upbringing frowned upon being a sore winner.
Auburn's season won't be that bad if we get a win. I'm thinking that Alabama's case is the same. And then maybe for Christmas, Auburn will get a new football coach.
Lennie Collins
said:
posted on November 7, 2007 9:50 AM — 67.67.197.165 — link — abuse?If the money is right , he will go! It will be hard for him to get recruits from going to Texas and/or Oklahoma but anything can happen in that regards. But even if he can't he will leave for the money!