October 12, 2006
What are the current BCS standings?
BCS predictor Rich Tellshow has updated his BCS Projections through the week seven polls. (HT: Burnt Orange Nation!) Although these aren't the "official" standings (those will be released this weekend), Tellshow's standing show where teams would rank in the BCS before this week's schedule:
1 Ohio State
2 Southern Cal
3 Florida
4 Michigan
5 Louisville
Want the rest? Check our Tellshow's site.
From the looks of the poll, Florida could gain some ground, particularly with four computer top 25's on its resume by season's end. Michigan, meanwhile, has to pin it's hopes on getting healthy and winning out - with a big circle around the Nov 18 game in Columbus. USC also needs to win out and make some statements, particularly with some of the low-hanging fruit left on its schedule (#55 ASU, #63 Oregon State, #87 Stanford, and #28 UCLA).
On the other hand, Louisville needs Ohio State to win out (dropping Michigan), plus losses by Florida and USC to climb into a national championship game. Even if the Cardinals run the table, a 12-0 UL only nets a mid-thirties strength-of-schedule, as 10 of its 12 opponents are ranked below 30. It's quite possible that --even with an undefeated record-- Louisville will be ranked below some one-loss teams (likely the loser of tOSU-UM game).
Biggest surprise? Well, Louisville at #5 is a surprise to me, especially with their weak schedule and #7 poll rankings. But, seeing Boise State at #14 was a big shock to me. Yes, the Broncos are undefeated but their schedule so far (70th) is a joke and it's only going to get worse (projected finish as 101st schedule). Boise can't help it that they play in a mid-major, but BSU certainly didn't help themselves by scheduling IAA Sacramento State. Seeing Boise State in the top 15 --yeah, I know they're undefeated-- is shocking.
UPDATE: For those who work better in pictures, check out the outstanding Animated BCS Race over at Rocky Top Talk. (HT: Joel @ Rocky Top Talk!)
Comments:
Bobby Dodd Disciple said:
posted on October 12, 2006 3:48 PM — 168.9.26.150 — link — abuse?
This has been one of the best years of parity throughout college football. Outside of Columbus, it doesn't appear anyone has been dominant (to the point where there's little argument). Florida has played well, almost entirely at the Swamp. USC has played well enough, almost entirely against the sisters of the Pac10. Tennessee lost tough to Florida, they're the best one-loss team, followed by Texas. Of course, ND is carrying an over-inflated rating (what's new). We should have beaten them down here in Atlanta wk 1; Tech has looked solid, but 4 of 6 games remaining are on the road. Louisville impressed me when they retaliated (on the field) and stomped the "U". I see Michigan stumbling this weekend at Happy Valley, and Tressel holds serve at home to win Big 10 and lock up NC appearance.
CT said:
posted on October 12, 2006 4:17 PM — 24.26.253.159 — link — abuse?
A tiny point to add. Tellshow actually predicts the strength of schedule for the entire season.
Even with the "low hanging fruit" left on its schedule, with the current records of its opponents USC will still likely play the toughest schedule of the season. Florida will probably not be able to make up the ground necessary (it simply does not have the toughest schedule in the nation...despite pundit's opinions).
Of course SOS change as the season progresses but it is looking very much like no matter what Florida does, if USC wins out they'll be in Glendale.
That is of course a big IF.
Check out Tellshow's predicted strength of schedule rankings for the entire season (not just games played so far):
posted on October 12, 2006 4:56 PM — link — abuse?Kevin Donahue said:
Actually, CT, you've got the links incorrect. The link you provided is the full season strength based on the current records of each team (ie. stop the season right now, but factor all the records of every team - even if you haven't played them yet).
What you intended to link to is the PROJECTED SOS. This shows the SOS at the end of the season *if* the highest ranked team wins each game (ie #1 beats #2 if scheduled head-to-head, and so on).
If you'll look there, you will see that Florida is projected to have the toughest schedule, followed by USC #2.
So, can Florida pass USC without a Trojan loss. Well, it looks possible in the computers, SOS, and maybe the human polls. So, yes, it is possible.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 12, 2006 5:33 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
Yeh, But what about Ohio State's SOS dropping down too much. We all know that USC and Florida will probably both end up with high SOS ratings. But, the Big 10 is slightly down this year in my estimation. Maybe not, maybe Wisconsin will continue to play great ball along with Iowa. But, is it possible that Ohio State falls somewhat because of lower SOS than USC and Florida do? How about Florida and USC instead? I'm all for it. Two of the greatest young dynamic coaches in the game today.
Tommie T
TrojanHorse said:
posted on October 12, 2006 6:21 PM — 155.104.37.17 — link — abuse?
No way Ohio State falls b/c the human polls are 2/3 of the algorhythm. OSU would have to fall quite far to have an impact out of moving out of the top two spots. As long as the Buckeye's keep winning even if its ugly, they are in, no ifs, ands or buts
USC/FLA now that will be a battle if they all win out. Its catch 22 for the Gators, they get a huge boost with the championship game, but they can also get knocked out with it too.. Do the Hogs do USC another favor and take out the Gators in Atlanta sending USC to Glendale II?
IrishJT said:
posted on October 12, 2006 7:14 PM — 71.207.226.16 — link — abuse?
how in the world do some of you people even have the intellect to sit up in the morning, much less log on to a computer? notre dame is overrated? why? because 10th is unfair due to their loss to many voter's #2 team, michigan? does anyone really think that tennessee is a good team? west virginia? louisville? if you do, you're probably the same a##hole who casts his vote for wolfe for the heisman.
hate notre dame, love notre dame. when they go 11-1, beat USC in their own backyard and then brady gets the heisman...i'll be all smiles.
'til then, don't hurt yourselves walking and chewing gum. you'll pick the ACC to win it all this year.
Austin said:
posted on October 12, 2006 8:02 PM — 130.74.4.9 — link — abuse?
IrishJT:
Not only did ND lose to Michigan, they got blown out by Michigan. At home! ND was considered by many to be a national title contender, and people like you still think they should be. That is how they are overrated. They dont belong in the top 5. Maybe not even in the top 10. At least not this year. And as for Brady Quinn, the only way that he could win the heisman is by rackin up 400 yards passing against every team left on that weak a** schedule. ND has no chance to walk into the coliseum and beat USC. All ND fans just need to wait a year or two for Jimmy clausen to come in and for that defense to get better and then you can talk. But for now, ND is still considered to be overrated.
So Cal USMC said:
posted on October 12, 2006 9:01 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
Kev-Hue, what's the deal?
I appreciate that Tellshow lists the 5 BCS Ratings lists and the site, in general (Ive refer to it over the past couple of years) but he's got something screw-y with this "projected BCS rankings"
... Middle Tenn State (3-3) is "projected" to be #31. They have no votes in any of the Polls and their Consensus BCS Ratings have Mid Tenn St Ranked #75!... hows that team listed at #31? Not to mention Old Miss and UCF right below them.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 12, 2006 9:05 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
Trojan Hoss:
I agree with your assumption about Ohio State remaining #1 because the human polls do constitute about 2/3 of the total equation. But, we've seen teams get hot and other teams cool down over a long period of time. What if Ohio State struggles with a couple of teams? Do they lose votes? What if Florida starts completely mauling people in a way that Ohio State has not shown? Could they grab votes? There are still around eight weeks left. It's hard for any team to stay up every week. By the end of the year you can start to pick out teams that are really gellin'. Texas did it last year while USC was the consensus Top Team all year. They were lights out last year at the end. USC in 2002, lost two early, and went on to finish 11-2. The computer models actually had them #1 after the Bowl games. In 2004, Oklahoma was all the craze, until USC came in at the end and killed them. Oklahoma was all the craze again in 2003 - until LSU knocked them out of the Orange Bowl and USC lit up Michigan in the Rose Bowl. So, it is very possible that with all these recent memories in mind, that should Ohio State begin to stumble somewhere along the line that other teams could move up and steal votes.
Tommie T
So Cal USMC said:
posted on October 12, 2006 9:09 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
These are the four teams that have distinguished themselves from the rest, In Terms what they have Accomplished to date - Wins and Losses (based on Actual results, not potential, not style points, not media bais's)
- Ohio St - (4 Home, 2 Road)
Texas 5-1
Iowa 5-1
Penn St 4-2
No Ill 4-2
Cincy 3-3
BGreen 3-3- Florida - (5 Home!, only 1 Road???)
Tennessee 5-1
Bama 4-2
LSU 4-2
So Miss 3-2
Kentucky 3-3
UCF 2-3- USC - (2 Home, 3 Road!!!):
Arkansas 4-1
Nebraska 5-1
Washington 4-2
Wazzu 4-2
Arizona 2-4Michigan - (4 Home, 2 Road):
Notre Dame 5-1
Wiscy 5-1
Michigan St 3-3
Minnesota 2-4
Cent Mich 3-3
Vandy 2-4
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 12, 2006 9:53 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
Irish JT:
Your quote of, "How in the world do some of you people even have the intellect to sit up in the morning, much less log onto a computer"?
Well sir, for me to even begin to function I have got to have my coffee. I used to have to think about how I was going to make that 1st pot - but, it all started coming together for me somewhere along the line. Now, it's kinda like riding a bicycle. So, I've devised this ingenius conglomeration of contraptions that affords for me to just pull on a string and that 1st pot will start to boil. Now, the tricky part (and this took some time and effort), was to be able to train my pet Boa Constrictor to grab the pot and bring it over to my bunk - along with the cream and sugar of coarse. After I've inhaled that 1st cup I'm finally able to mount an assault on trying to sit up. This still takes tremendous effort as I still need another cup before I'm really able to start thinking about how I'm going to low crawl over to the computer. After I'm able to sit up at first - I can finally smoke that 1st cigarette. This is when it really start coming together for me. Another cup of coffee and a few more smokes and I'm finally ready to take on the grueling journey over to the computer table.
Tommie T
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 12, 2006 11:11 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
Now, the way I see it - we have twenty-six teams ranked thru the AP, USA Today and Harris polls so far this year. All of these teams have 5th year seniors, seniors, juniors, sophs and freshman. Many of these players have already redshirted - so they have been in their collective programs for awhile. Many players have been through battle for the last 4+ seasons including 5th years seniors and seniors and redshirt juniors. Most of these players have been in alot of games so far over the last 4+ seasons.
The Top 26: (and the record over 4+ years)
1.) USC 53-4
2.) Boise State 51-7
3.) Texas 50-7
4.) Ohio State 49-8
5.) Georgia 49-10
6.) Oklahoma 47-11
7.) L.S.U. 45-13
8.) Auburn 44-13
9.) Iowa 43-13
10.) Michigan 42-14
11.) West Virginia 41-14
Louisville 41-14
13.) West Virginia 43-15
14.) Boston College 39-16
15.) Florida 38-18
Tennessee 38-18
California 38-18
18.) Wisconsin 39-19
19.) Notre Dame 35-20
Clemson 35-20
21.) Oregon 34-20
22.) Nebraska 35-21
23.) Georgia Tech 33-23
24.) Missouri 31-23
25.) Arkansas 28-23
26.) Rutgers 22-30So, how bout those top teams? The people on USC have only ever seen four losses. Texas with only seven losses and Ohio State with only eight have seen very few also. Georgia has ten and Oklahoma only eleven.
Florida has lost eighteen times over this period while Michigan has bit the dust fourteen times. What are the odds figuring that there are many players on every team that has contributed to these records?
My money is on either Ohio State, USC or Texas to win the National Championship this year. Michigan, Florida and West Virginia or Louisville have all got at least fourteen losses over the last few years. They may not really be ready for that one big game. Now, you want to talk about a weak conference? How bout Boise State playing in the WAC? I'll go along with that. There is no way those guys go 51-7 playing BCS schools.
Tommie T
Tomcat said:
posted on October 13, 2006 3:25 AM — 69.151.96.63 — link — abuse?
I agree with post #15 yes and some of those teams face each other, interesting. Towards the end there will be alot of quality 1 loss teams.
Hey So-Cal what do you think about the Big East?
No Louisville, W Virginia or Rutgers on your list.
# 17 Regan purty funny-I intentionaly put purty and not pretty.
# 16 Trained Boa? Hey Tommie he cant help it being Irish is kinda like being an Aggie
Go USC beat Stanford and Oregon State
easternfan said:
posted on October 13, 2006 5:29 AM — 12.64.60.119 — link — abuse?
Irishjt, you seem like a twit. Look at the Irish O-line, bad. Brady Quinn, over rated. I would love to see the Irish try and stop WVU, Tenn,or UL's offense, it would be 28-0 in the first quarter. You will lose to USC and the lose whatever sorry bowl game you get for another three loss season. Not bad but not a contender. Give Charlie another year or two and you might get back...but not this year. Did a priest have his way with you as a child? Dont go callin' people a$$holes, if by some miracle you actually graduated from ND it makes you and your school look bad.
posted on October 13, 2006 9:05 AM — link — abuse?
UPDATE: For those who work better in pictures, check out the outstanding Animated BCS Race over at Rocky Top Talk. (HT: Joel @ Rocky Top Talk!)
Bobby Dodd Disciple said:
posted on October 13, 2006 12:40 PM — 168.9.26.150 — link — abuse?
For those who would like to see WVU play for the NC, look at this.
Sat, Sep 2 Marshall W 42-10 --
Sat, Sep 9 Eastern Washington W 52-3 --
Thu, Sep 14 Maryland W 45-24 --
Sat, Sep 23 at East Carolina W 27-10 --
Sat, Oct 7 at Mississippi State W 42-14 --
Sat, Oct 14 Syracuse 12:00 pm --
Fri, Oct 20 at Connecticut 8:00 pm --
Thu, Nov 2 at (7) Louisville 7:30 pm --
Sat, Nov 11 Cincinnati 12:00 pm --
Thu, Nov 16 at Pittsburgh 7:30 pm --
Sat, Nov 25 South Florida 12:00 pm --
Sat, Dec 2 (24) Rutgers TBA --Those are horrible non-conference opponents for a team playing in the least-capable BCS conference. Sorry, you don't deserve it.
Luke said:
posted on October 13, 2006 3:39 PM — 209.251.132.34 — link — abuse?
So Cal USMC, whatever you are trying to prove with your post 15 is stupid. Who cares if USC has had 3 road games if the majority of the teams they play suck. Hell, UF could have had its whole season on the road so far and only had a potential loss to LSU. We beat Tennessee in a stadium with over 100,000 fans on the road and came back from 10 points behind to win the game in the 2nd half. We play Alabama, LSU, Auburn, and Georgia in 1 month back to back games. The only reason florida's schedule doesn't look so tough is that the SEC teams are so good its almost impossible to go undefeated through all the conference games. The SEC cannabalizes its own teams, preventing any of them from looking credible in the eyes of other conferences that think beating a bunch of worthless teams gives them credit.
So Cal USMC said:
posted on October 13, 2006 6:03 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
Luke, you presumptuous fool... Read post 15 over again. What did you think that I was "Trying to Prove"???
I like Florida! I like Meyer. In my own Rankings, I have Florida Ranked #2 ahead of #3 USC! (The more I think about it, its probabaly closer to a Tied for 2nd, or USC with a slight edge).
- The Polls have USC #2 and Florida #3
- The BCS Consensus Ratings have USC #1 and Florida #3
Florida might end up with the toughest SOS in the Country (thats yet to be determined, but I expect that they will), maybe they lose 1 or 2, maybe they go undefeated... Im not handicapping Florida here, nor am I down-playing them, dopey. Those four teams are closely grouped, with the edge going to Ohio St (and thats Not considering how they've "looked", its All about Wins and Losses).And by the way...
USC played @ 4-1 Arkansas, @ 4-2 Washington St, vs 5-1 Nebraska, vs 4-2 Washington, @ 2-4 Arizona. Thats only 1 chump-team on the Road.Luke, about Florida and Home vs Road games... its all WORDS. How about dealing with actual reality? If, If, If Flordia... first off, that Alabama game wasnt decided until a couple of late-game-INTs and you cant guarantee that Homefield Would Not have been the difference, nor can I! BUT the fact remains HOME FIELD MATTERS!!! And it really "Should Be" accounted for, even in the most plain and generic sense (Half-way thru the season, Florida has only had 1 Road game!???!) At the very least it should be a sorta of a tie-breaker, ei, give a team a slight edge in SOS rating when everything else is about even - that kinda thing, at least.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 13, 2006 6:18 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
EasternFan:
For all those who think that Brady Quinn is overrated: consider that he is a lock to be the Top Draft choice by the NFL. If not him - then possibly Adrian Peterson. No, alot goes into a team. The guy lost two great receivers - but Rema McKnight has stepped up. Blocking may not be as good this year. The Irish aint taken nobody by surprise this year. These things all play into account. Quinn is a great prospect and will be so honored by the NFL come draft day. Those things were all said about Eli Manning and Carson Palmer also. They are doing fine now.
Tommie T
Zac said:
posted on October 13, 2006 7:28 PM — 65.31.231.119 — link — abuse?
Irish JT & Tommie T: I don't drink coffee. Besides, it would take more than that to improve my computer illiteracy. I'm probably the worst of you all. In fact, my pet Rhino knows more about my PC than I do.
As for the Irish, I don't think they're over-rated; I don't think they know where they are. They won a close 1st season game in a tough environment before showing their true potential at home against PA St, only to embarrass themselves against MI & MI St. Were it not for MI St catching a bad case of "dumb-ass" with
So, Bobby Dodd, I suppose you would prefer WVU have WI's schedule, which contains such perennial powers as Bowling Green, W IL, San Diego St, IL, IN, N Wstrn, & Buffalo. How about TX's schedule with Baylor, N TX, RICE, & Sam Houston St? I'm not even going to bother talking about the ACC. Given their ranking, WVU has beaten the teams they were supposed to beat, just about the way they were supposed to beat them. Given they still have to play at #8 Louisville, at currently 5-1 Pitt, and currently #24 Rutgers, I don't see the validity of your statement. If WVU wins out, they'd be just as deserving as any team in the country. Will it happen? Not likely, if FL, OSU, MO, & USC also go undefeated. That's why we need a play-off. That way, teams like WVU, not to mention Boise St, can prove they belong with the rest.
So Cal USMC said:
posted on October 13, 2006 8:34 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
Luke, another thing, EVERY CONFERENCE ends up with a .500 record against ITSELF! In that sense they all "Canabalize" each other, stupid. That sh!t dont fly... you buy-into too much of that hype you hear from the Sport Talk Media.
And you dont even make sense within your Own Reasoning!
- "The only reason florida's schedule doesn't look so tough is that the SEC teams are so good its almost impossible to go undefeated through all the conference games."Luke, youre all tangled up.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 13, 2006 9:16 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
Friday the 13th:
A little follow up to yesterdays "Record against other schools" recap. Today, it's record against "all other BCS schools" only. The numbers become even more staggering. Thirteen lucky contestants have been chosen withe the Big East and ACC teams left out because of low rankings this year - and too much confusion over who was in what league when. Nevertheless, other than Louisville and West Virginia (who have played weak schedules), Boston College may be the only team that could have qualified this year.
Conference records, OOC records and total records are listed here - thru the last 4+ years.
1.) U.S.C. (33-2) (14-2) 47-4
2.) Texas (31-4) (7-2) 38-6
3.) Ohio State (27-7) (10-1) 37-8
4.) Georgia (30-9) (9-1) 39-10
5.) Oklahoma (30-6) (8-4) 38-10
6.) Auburn (29-8) (5-5) 34-13
Iowa (27-8) (7-5) 34-13
8.) L.S.U. (27-10) (6-3) 33-13
9.) Michigan (28-7) (5-7) 33-14
10.) California (23-12) (6-3) 29-15
11.) Wisconsin (19-15) (8-2) 27-17
12.) Florida (25-11) (3-7) 28-18
13.) Tennessee (22-13) (5-5) 27-18The numbers would suggest that neither Florida nor Michigan stand any chance of taking the Title. In fact those two teams combine for a record of (8-14) against OOC BCS schools. Florida has not played one this year. USC's numbers are mind boggling. They have played sixteen OOC games against BCS opposition - while Oklahoma places a distant 2nd with twelve. Dominant teams OOC are: Ohio State, Georgia, USC, Wisconsin and Texas. Texas, LSU and California can be accused of being the biggest dodgers of other BCS competition - as they have only played nine games including Bowl games.
The SEC teams have a conference record of 133-51. That's a winning percentage of .723 within their own conference. It's quite a different story when they have to play BCS teams from other conferences though. They post a 28-21 mark against all other teams for a percentage of .571. Without Georgia's (9-1) mark - the record would be 19-20. Clearly, it is very easy for these "elite" programs to play in the SEC, but when they have to play other teams the going seems to get pretty tough for them. Clearly, the real power team in the SEC is Georgia. All of the other programs are definately a notch below them.
Tommie T
Zac said:
posted on October 13, 2006 11:26 PM — 65.31.231.119 — link — abuse?
1st an apology: As you can see, there's some text missing from the 2nd paragraph in post #27. For some reason everything didn't transfer; just another example of my computer illiteracy. I'm letting the Rhino do it from now on.
Tommie T: Post #29 presents an interesting argument. Your info certainly does indicate GA being the strongest team in the SEC...over the past 4 years. Not this year, I'm afraid, and their game against TN proved it. In their three previous games they scored 46 pts combined, 14 against now 0-6 CO in a last minute win. In spite of what your data indicates, one of the finalists likely comes out of the Big 10, provided either MI or OSU run the table. The other could come from the SEC. However (Barring a Big 12 surprise, and given MO's remaining schedule, they would be a surprise.), my guess is the other comes from the PAC 10, if USC wins out. If the chips and the right teams fall (Auburn beats FL, CA beats USC, anybody beats MO), you have to admit Louisville would be a legitimate contender, given their schedule is stronger than WVU's. However, if WVU wins at Louisville, they have a solid road victory against a top 10 team, not to mention at least one, possibly two wins against other top 25 teams (Rutgers & at Pitt), should they win out. It's a crap shoot, no matter how you look at it. Sadly, no matter what happens in the Big East, my guess is OSU/USC.
Ken W said:
posted on October 14, 2006 2:02 PM — 70.137.159.239 — link — abuse?
I would agree Georgia has been the 1st or 2nd best team in the SEC for over the past 4 years. But, they have been are going to struggle this year.
31 & 32: you're not arguing about the same topic as #30. #30 was a post addressing people's statements about whether historically SEC teams are heads and shoulders above non-SEC teams.
Stick to subject when arguing.
GA Boy said:
posted on October 14, 2006 4:53 PM — 66.110.197.20 — link — abuse?
Tommie Trojan,
Looks like you spoke too soon. GA does not seem like the power team in the SEC this year. Man this is gonna be a rough one if our offense does not come alive and defense doesn't get it together. I still love em though! GO DAWGS!!Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on October 14, 2006 5:31 PM — 68.49.176.53 — link — abuse?
Bobby Dodd, we definitely deserve it. We are as good as anyone in the country and could beat anyone in the country also, that's not me blowing smoke..... that's just plain and simply "THE FACTS"!!!! I know there are plenty of coaches out there just hoping they do not have to play WVU in the National Championship.
Mike said:
posted on October 14, 2006 5:38 PM — 65.2.235.53 — link — abuse?
Season still very young. Lots of games left to be played. Lots of surprises left as well. will be many one loss teams. Can't really tell much at this point, other than Ohio State is pretty damn good. Jury still out for just about everyone else. Right now any of the top ten teams may still have a shot in the national championship game. We will see how good Michigan is tonight, when the play unranked Penn State in Happy Valley at night. Yes, they beat Nore Dame, but score was not really indicative of the game. Irish not out of it yet, and are slowly creeping back up. Turns out their opening day victory was over a very good Georgia Tech team, and they beat them in Atlanta, at night. Lots of FB left people. Lots of reshuffling in top ten left as well.
Rusty Shackleford said:
posted on October 15, 2006 10:55 AM — 205.188.116.133 — link — abuse?
VANDY!!!! WAR EAGLE!!!! The road is clear now for Auburn to run the table, it's up to arkansas to lose 2 SEC games now, and the auburn team that showed up in the 2nd half was unbelievable. We didn't even need an offensive touchdown to beat the gayters. The door is still open for us to get to the national championship. Michigan will either get beat by Iowa or Ohio State, Ohio State will only have a chance to get beat by Michigan, Rutgers will take down Louisville, and hopefully Louisville will get West Virginia. If we can dominate the SEC championship then we will have a shot. WAR EAGLE!
Tomcat said:
posted on October 15, 2006 8:46 PM — 69.151.96.63 — link — abuse?
Correction for post#41 Indiana instead of Illinois
sorry guys I always get those two confused
Hey Zac post #27 your a Huskers fan right?
Ya Neb played USC early in the season
Tex played OSU early in the season
Far as SOS goes, pretty simular
SHSU was a game that would not help anybodies SOS. What it did do however was give us a chance to see alot of the Horns blue chip recruits. These great freshman that the coaches have been holding back, probably from lack of college game day experience.
Ya Texas Schedule this year is purty weak,
Ohio State, Oklahoma-neutral site
Nebraska-road Texas Tech-road A&M-home
Big XII Championship game
I'm sure alot of WV fans and Rutgers fans are jealous.No Big East team would survive the Horns schedule.
As a Horns fan I'm glad we dont face UConn and Syracuse.
The Horns travel to Lincoln this weekend
The Horns have never lost in Lincoln HookemTommie Trojan said:
posted on October 16, 2006 10:26 AM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
People,
Why can't anybody down south comprehend plain english? Nobody states that Georgia is the most powerful team this year. Clearly, that is not the case. But, over the 4+ years they have been. Not only had they posted the best mark in the SEC over that span of time - they had the best OOC record against other BCS teams. What is the conflict? Yes, they are down this year, as they have to transition to new QB's, but overall the program has been elite on a nationwide scale.
Tommie T
AllEers said:
posted on October 16, 2006 11:15 AM — 162.129.27.201 — link — abuse?
I agree with you Tommy T...and oh yeah...didn't WVU take down Georgia last year?
Bobby Dodd the "least capable" Big East is performing one of the fastest conference overhauls in the history of the NCAA. Pride in our conference has us power ranked above the ACC within 2 seasons. We will have 4 teams in the top 25 by the end of next week. And Bobby, when WVU meets Ohio State in Glendale, you do not "deserve" to watch the game.IrishJT said:
posted on October 16, 2006 11:20 AM — 65.83.54.4 — link — abuse?
So Cal USMC...as always, you are a neutral and informed arbiter.
Eastern Fan,
So you would like to see ND beat Louisville, West Virginia or Tennessee, ay? Great. You mean like when Notre Dame pummeled Tennessee last year? Yeah, that was great. Or like the year before that one? Yeah, I was there for that one too. You should have seen it. I felt bad for Tennessee. (You have to at least win a game to talk your level of trash.)As for West Va and Louisville, you won't EVER see them play Notre Dame because neither team plays Top 10 teams...or Top 20 teams...or Top 25 teams for that matter. No matter how you slice it, Notre Dame is UNDER-RATED, still has a shot at the NT, Brady is the best QB in college football and the Big East is a joke, deserves no respect and will get NONE from the BCS. Have fun in the DipShit Bowl.
Tommie T said:
posted on October 16, 2006 12:26 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
AllEers:
Yep, Georgia sports a 9-1 OOC - with the only loss coming at the hands of West Virginia during the Bowl game last year. It was a great game by the way. Oh, and the scariest people I have seen this year are Pat White and Steve Slaton. I don't know if anybody can handle these two guys. I suppose a really overpowering defense might be able to, but if they cannot do it, then any team is gonna be in real trouble. Pat White for the Heisman maybe as soon as next year.
Tommie T
Zac said:
posted on October 16, 2006 5:43 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
Mr. Shackleford, Tomcat, & Irish JT - You guys smoken from the same bowl? I'd change the mix. #1: I'm no Huskers fan; I wish them well; I wish well the vast majority, but I'm a sucker for the underdog, especially when they play FL St, Miami, MI, ND, OK, OSU, TX, UCLA, USC, and anyone in the SEC. (By the way, I've had the distinction of having personally met Mr. & Mrs. Bowden, and even took a couple of classes with Terry. These are class folk!!!) #2: To quote another famous Italian, who called the Auburn/FL game wrong (I called it right.), SEC? Fa-get-about-it! Now, if there were a play-off system, you'd have to include no fewer than six teams from the SEC; the conference is that good. #3: WVU beats Louisville Nov. 2nd. This had nothing to do with the Cincinnati/Louisville outcome. Expect a dog-fight!!! WVU's running game is too fine tuned, and their "D" is finally getting serious. I like how Rutgers has improved, but they will not beat Louisville. They just don't have enough in their arsenal. #4: Louisville is ranked 7th; WVU is ranked 5th; Rutgers is ranked 24th, Pitt is about to be ranked, Miami was ranked when Louisville played them, and S. FL has gained some credibility. I'd have to conclude; not only will WVU & Louisville play ranked teams, but teams ranked in the top 10. (Isn't it funny how nobody has anything to say about MI/OSU, Auburn/LSU, FL/TN, OK/TX, etc. But, WVU/Louisville??? They're in the Big East, and everybody knows how soft that conference is. The ACC don't think so, and neither should the SEC; just ask GA, if KY & MS St aren't good enough for you.
Sadly, I think USC will find a way to win out, and join OSU in Arizona.
M GO BLUE said:
posted on October 16, 2006 7:47 PM — 216.46.209.53 — link — abuse?
WoW!!! I just looked at West Virginia's schedule,wow I bet the SEC fans wish they could get a schedule like that! there might be one tough game on that list,maybe.
I think there are about 30 teams that could go 12-0 with that schedule,give me a break,a one loss SEC team should get the bid over any undefeated big east team!
Oh and the last time West Virginia played Notre Dame was in 2001 and Notre Dame won!
I looked at West Virginia's recent past and have decided they lose more big games than they win!IrishJT said:
posted on October 16, 2006 8:41 PM — 71.207.226.16 — link — abuse?
By the way, the Mountaineers DO have a one dimensional attack. I don't need to watch any Tuesday night or Thursday afternoon games (the only nationally televised Big East game times) to read stats.
WVU has 1970 yards rushing in 6 games. That's roughly 328 yds/game.
WVU has 826 yards passing in 6 games. That's roughly 137 yds/game.
It's almost 3 to 1. These are the facts as WVU reports them. Also, this is the best they could do against powerhouses like Marshall, E.Carolina and Eastern Washington. One dimensionsal...kinda like your last date.
UT Redneck said:
posted on October 17, 2006 5:13 PM — 24.183.226.239 — link — abuse?
Irishit-
TN & ND are tied all time 4-4 & don't lump TN in with WV or Louisville. TN has much more history than those schools. Since you're an attorney, why don't you figure out some legal way to get us to a playoff system instead of spending your entire day propping up ND. They get plenty of help from the media.Zac said:
posted on October 18, 2006 10:55 PM — 65.31.231.119 — link — abuse?
#48. Mr. M Go Blue: There may well be 30 teams or more "capable" of going undefeated through the Big East. With the exception of Ohio St, there are 5 teams in the Big East certainly capable of beating any of the 30 you name. Now, admittedly, I can't prove that claim any more than you can prove yours. So, nuff said.
#49. IrishJT: I fully admit; WVU has a one dimensional offense. Funny, every team they've played since beating GA in last year's Sugar Bowl has known what WVU will do and who's going to get the ball. In spite of that fact, they are now the #1 rushing team in all of college football. Now, when ECU found a way to slow down the running game, WVU passed for over 200 yards. So, they can air it out when they need to. As for E. WA, no offensive starters played beyond 5+ minutes to go in the 1st half; none played at all in the 2nd half.
#50. UT Redneck: TN would do well to include Louisville & WV on their schedule. The converse is also true. If nothing else, geographically it makes sense. Besides, I've been to Knoxville; I love the atmosphere there. I'll take any excuse to visit. Maybe during a play-off???
Well, enough with this one. I'll see you guys over on the Biggest Rivalries blog.
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ThatGuy said:
posted on October 12, 2006 3:34 PM — 207.230.144.240 — link — abuse?Gotta love a sport that bases it's championship on opinions and computers.