December 3, 2006
BCS Championship: Ohio State vs. Florida
2:32 EST - Given Florida's slight advantage (or eventual dead tie) in the computer polls and the sizable gain Florida made in both the USA Today Coaches poll and the AP poll (not a BCS factor), we are now able to call the BCS Championship.
The #2 Florida Gators will meet the #1 Ohio State Buckeyes in the National Championship Game on January 8, 2007.
The official results and bowl assignments will be announced tonight at approximately 7pm EST.
In a cursory review of the Coaches poll, Florida amassed 1,470, meaning that they were ranked #2 by 44 of the coaches and #3 by 18 voters. In order for Michigan to pass Florida at this point, seventy-plus percent of the Harris Poll voters would have to put Michigan ahead of Florida. Given the results so far in the computer polls, Coaches Poll and AP poll, it is now unreasonable (although not impossible) for anyone to think that Michigan will eclipse Florida.
UPDATE - 3:54 EST - The LA Times is agreeing - it's Florida - Ohio State.
UPDATE - We've got the official BCS bowl game lineup for those that don't want to wait for Fox.
Complete 2006-2007 College Football Bowl Schedule & TV Listings
Comments:
Jon said:
posted on December 3, 2006 2:47 PM — 69.246.161.119 — link — abuse?
BCS standings as of right NOW.
USA Today (current)
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#2 Florida 1,470/1,575 = .9333
#3 Michigan 1,444/1,575 = .9168Max voting points: 1575
Harris Interactive (from last week)
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#3 Michigan 2,614/2,850 = .9172
#4 Florida 2,528/2,850 = .8870Max voting points: 2850
Computer Rankings (from last week)
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Michigan 24 23 24 24 = 95/100 = .9500
Florida 23 24 23 23 = 93/100 = .9300Max voting points: 100
Michigan: .950+.9172+.9168/3 = .9280
Florida: .930+.8870+.9333/3 = .9168
So... Hypothethically...If Florida picks up the same amount they did in the Harris interactive (as they did in the USA today) and the computers remain the same, they finish with .9322 and Michigan scores .9278 ... I think Florida is going to win this by a lot... There is no way a few of the computers aren't going to swing their way... And all signs point to Harris swinging their way too. When Harris comes out, I'll plug the numbers in and give a definitive answer. Right now, Im 99.99% sure Florida is going because of the human voting factor!
posted on December 3, 2006 3:02 PM — link — abuse?Kevin Donahue said:
Gee thanks, Jon. Pretty sure that's what I said, yo.
Brian Metzger said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:04 PM — 24.33.85.188 — link — abuse?
It's not who we would like to see play.
It is who is the top 2 teams in College Football.
No one can tell me that FL is one of the top 2 in the nation. I've watched them play most of the games.
Purely politics. Danielson rant last night on CBS was way out of line. He did more than give his opinion.
Kevin said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:05 PM — 68.42.116.35 — link — abuse?
Chief,
Michigan is the 2nd best team in the Big 10 and the 2nd best team in the nation.Their snubbing goes against everything that the BCS was created to achieve:
#1 vs #2.
Meyer is going to get a chance to demonstrate just how little water the "SEC is tougher" argument holds.
OSU is going to crush them. I hope UM does the same with USC.
richard said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:05 PM — 68.41.240.166 — link — abuse?
i think florida is gonna get beat down by ohio state, michigan is the only one that can beat them, u are all stupid for sayin u dont want a rematch because its not suppose to be a rematch its suppose to be the number 1 team againts 2 and florida is not tha good there last 5 games hwere aginst nobodys. vote michigan 1000, florida 25, i think wisconsin has a better shot at beatin ohio state than florida
Ken Gmerek said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:08 PM — 71.227.89.107 — link — abuse?
this should have NOTHING to do with Michigan already playing Ohio State, last time I checked the BCS was about putting the two best teams in a championship game. By using the "no rematches" theory, Michigan would be number two if they played 1AA Western Carolina (like Florida did) instead of playing Ohio State. Also, how can the SEC be considered a better conference when three BigTen teams are currently in the Top 25? The human polls need to stop using politics when voting and start ranking teams the right way; that is if two teams play 9 times, the higher ranked team should win atleast 5.
screw florida said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:15 PM — 68.18.61.223 — link — abuse?
this is complete bull shit...florida gets their only national championshipo thanks to a rematch... right after they were beat by 3 in florida state.... now michigan loses by 3 in ohio state and they don't get a rematch? the florida program is disgusting and slowly becoming the miami of the 80's...thugish...
f*** florida...they don't deserve this crap... i hope they get killed by ohio state
posted on December 3, 2006 3:19 PM — link — abuse?
No harm, no foul, Jon. On another note, there are a couple of releases coming up that are embargoed, so I gotta watch comments a little that might contain that stuff, otherwise we get cut out of the loop long-term.
posted on December 3, 2006 3:25 PM — link — abuse?
Tressell asked to abstain from the Coaches poll - pretty customary in this situation.
melissa said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:26 PM — 128.227.66.79 — link — abuse?
if there is such a huge controversy over who should play Ohio, i dont understand why they dont create a special play-off b/w Michigan and Florida? is that breaking some special rule they have or something? I think this would be the fairest way -
melissa said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:30 PM — 128.227.66.79 — link — abuse?
if there is such a huge controversy over who should be number 2, i dont understand why they cant just form a special playoff game b/w Florida and Michigan. does that go against some special rule or something? - If florida thinks they deserve to be number 2, let them prove themselves against michigan first. if michigan thinks they deserve # 2, let 'em beat florida - i think this is the fairest way.
ohio state said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:31 PM — 24.210.140.52 — link — abuse?
We have already played Michigan and beat them..what more do we need to prove? Weve played to number two team twice already this season! Michigan had their chance now another team from a different conference deserves to play us. FUCK THE REMATCH with michigan. god damn..theyve already lost..get over it.
mark said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:32 PM — 207.18.56.9 — link — abuse?
rememeber big blue,
when florida got that rematch vs FSU the BCS wasnt out. also, what merit or facts do we have to support the dickhead that called FLA the miami of the era? I understand being pissed, but you make yourself appear like an idiot with those comments.
mark
GatorMatt said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:34 PM — 65.40.42.140 — link — abuse?
Ken,
The Big 10 has 3 teams in the top 25, the SEC has 3 teams in the top 10. And the reason Florida got a rematch in '96 was b/c they didn't have the gay BCS around then, it was simply up to the voters. And by the way, you guys can complain all you want to just like IrishJT, but do any of you have any voting power in the polls? I didn't think so. Until you do, you just have opinions, which are neither right nor wrong. You may think that Ohio State would kill Florida, but according to Tommie Trojan, USC was going to kill UCLA. We all saw how that one turned out. The BCS sucks, but this time it looks like it's going to work out in Florida's favor
Gatorpilot said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:40 PM — 70.121.100.84 — link — abuse?
Gators... always the Gators.
Gators over Arkansas.
Gators over Tennessee.
Gators over Georgia.
Gators over FSU.
Gators win. Gators win. Gators win!
Florida LB Brandon Siler: "We're the Florida Gators, man. We're supposed to win."
T-Mac said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:40 PM — 66.78.164.162 — link — abuse?
screw Florida, very insightful post #12. Joking. You need to learn a little about football bro. Michigan had their chance and blew it dogg. Florida won the SEC along with the toughest schedule in the country. Florida deserves to go. Plain and simple. Michigan didn't win their conference man. If they would have then you would have a valid arguement, but you don't. Why do you have such hatred and animosity for Florida bro? I'm just curious. I don't know you. T-Mac
Luke said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:40 PM — 24.250.217.142 — link — abuse?
Because Florida makes it to the national championship they are all of a sudden "thuggish?" What do you base your accusations on?? Florida has not been in any fights this season, No florida players have been ejected from a game, No florida players have gone to jail...don't make false accusations when you have no idea what you are talking about. Just because florida and miami are in the same state does not mean they are both thugs. IF you know anything about Florida you would know that Miami, one of the biggest cities in the united states, and Gainesville, with a population of 120,000, have pretty much nothing in common.
So in response to your post "screw florida," Screw you.volstrike3 said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:41 PM — 75.20.190.14 — link — abuse?
Ken Gmerek,
Do you not pay attention? The SEC has 5 teams in the top 25. I think there should be 6, Georgia will win their bowl game and finish in the top 25. Florida has played and beaten more ranked teams, is a conference champ and also has a much higher SOS. This really is a no brainer.
I would not mind seeing SEC vs. Big 10 across the board.
Fla vs. OSU
LSU vs. Mich
Aub/Tenn vs. Wisc
Aub/Tenn Vs. Penn State
posted on December 3, 2006 3:49 PM — 69.73.43.95 — link — abuse?
I just ran my spread sheet BCS calculator and looked at the computer rankings from last week. Florida was behind USC in every computer ranking last week. they will gain four computer votes. Michigan will likely pick up 2 computer votes for a net gain of .0067 points for Florida. With the USA Today results in, Florida would need either to pass Michigan in one of the computers or get 10 more points than Michigan in the Harris poll.
It is not a sure thing, but Florida looks to be sitting good right now.
jimmy said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:50 PM — 216.15.33.233 — link — abuse?
OK for the record:
Florida did luck into the Nat'l title in 1996 by beating FSU in a rematch. But that was not a BCS 1-2 title game like this rematch would be. Florida got lucky with other top teams losing, but they were playing another one loss team, and everyone knew they were the title team at the end of the day.
THis is not the same situation. What happens if Mich beats OSU? you play a 3rd game?
and give me a break, does anyone think that Florida isnt playing in a much better confrence with a much harder schedule? OSU and UM may be the best 2 teams, but there's no real way to know it given that they're playing in a 2 team conference.
Jonathan said:
posted on December 3, 2006 3:57 PM — 65.218.200.126 — link — abuse?
I really think the Mi should be in the game with OH. Gators have had the Toughest schdule in the nation. If you want style points and you want a good game Gators and Oh.
This is what I think #1 and #2 and that would be OH and Gators.
The Chief said:
posted on December 3, 2006 4:00 PM — 207.172.105.82 — link — abuse?
Post 26 volstrike:
I agree. Instead of going by who has the most teams in the top 25 (which changes every year), I'd love to see some of those matchups.Sadly with this current system, rankings mean NOTHING and EVERYTHING. Take LSU and Wisconsin for example. LSU is #4 but they've played 4 teams ranked in the BCS and come out with two losses while Wisconsin has played exactly ONE ranked team this season and lost that game. Point proven.
Vince said:
posted on December 3, 2006 4:00 PM — 24.48.148.134 — link — abuse?
Florida and Ohio St.- These are the two teams that played the most impressive regular seasons this year in college football based on who they played and beat. When you look at Michigan's resume and best wins this season, it just doesnt stack up to Florida's. There are only a limited number of games to be played in a college football season, and if there were to be a Michigan-Ohio St. rematch, the winner would have a less legitimate undisputed claim to the being the National Champion. W hy? Because if Michigan wins, they merely would have spilt the season series with Ohio St. If Ohio St. wins a rematch, their claim to a National Championship would not have as much legitimacy and broad a consensus had they played a top ranked non Big 10-conference team from the SEC or other conference. While we need a playoff- preferably an 8 team playoff- this is the fairest outcome possible in this imperfect BCS system.
Michael said:
posted on December 3, 2006 4:08 PM — 67.49.60.23 — link — abuse?
Reply to Snafu & Ed's posts, 87 & 91:
FACTS don't lie! BOTH U of M & FA played the SAME SEC opponent, VANDERBILT this year. Guess what the final scores were? That's right, MICHIGAN humbled VANDY 27-7 while FA barely escaped embarrassment again, 25-19! NOBODY bothers to bring that up, especially because as you said, "THE TRUTH HURTS!" Gators grumbling...
Also, if FA gets in it's because of the SEC COMMISSIONER being the BCS COORDINATOR. OHH! Now there's a shocker! Talk about stacked decks!
PLAYERS and NOT ref's or blown rules calls should decide final outcomes,thus we still long for a PLAYOFF where all TEAMS PUT UP or SHUT UP!, but that is the HUMAN factor, and although there are 6 Computer rankings to be averaged for the BCS, everyone knows that all these POLLS, in which neither CARR nor TRESSEL voted for the Coaches' Poll BTW ( CARR never lobbied for U of M unlike Urban Meyer who has been pontificating like a preacher pounding a pulpit from a proud papa's POV simply because his child's birth was the most recent) are RECENCY stilted/biased!
Hey FA, if we want to celebrate any child's birth at this hallowed time of year (i.e. Christmas) it shouldn't be an ill-begotten BERTH to the BCS for FA, but instead the virgin birth of CHRIST our Lord!
My BLUE hat's off to LLOYD CARR as a coach over Urban "motor mouth" Mayer, as CARR has definitely showed much more sterling character through all this than Mayer.
Brendon said:
posted on December 3, 2006 4:17 PM — 4.235.153.200 — link — abuse?
Everybody keeps writing about how the NCG should consist of the 2 best teams in the country and I agree. My gripe is with what makes everybody so sure the Michigan is the 2nd best team? Sure their lone loss was dealt at the hands of the number 1 team in nation but, this alone doesn't make them number 2. Their only quality wins were against Wisconsin and Notre Dame. Notre Dame and Wisconsin can not be classified as good beyond what they are arbitrarily ranked in the polls. Their schedules are ridiculously easy. Ohio State on the other hand beat Penn State, Iowa, Texas, and Michigan. All of these teams were ranked at the time of play but now only Texas and Michigan are left ranked and Texas is 18th in the polls. Why are we so sure Ohio State is the best team in the country? Michigan and Ohio played inside their bubble and Michigan lost. Done deal. The only way we can determine who the best team in country is, would be to allow these teams to play outside their bubbles. The polls prove nothing. Let Florida play Ohio State and the chips fall where they will.
M GO BLUE said:
posted on December 3, 2006 4:18 PM — 216.46.210.198 — link — abuse?
Tommie trojan,if I were you,I would be shaking in my boots!
USC will get handed their third loss!MICHIGAN FAN'S QUIT SHOOTING YOUR MOUTHS OFF AND GET EXCITED ABOUT THE GRANDDADDY OF EM ALL!
MICHIGAN WAS NOT EXPECTED TO GET TO THE ROSEBOWL TO START THE SEASON,SO MICHIGAN HAS MET AND EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS!GOOOOOOO BLUE!
GatorBrad said:
posted on December 3, 2006 4:22 PM — 72.19.161.12 — link — abuse?
It's great to be a Florida Gator.
Everyone wants to be a Gator.
But everyone can't.Everyone says OSU will rip FL. Well, I would argue that OSU/UM and USC till yesterday haven't played a defense the likes of UF.
When there is no speed on the other side of the ball, it's easy to have a powerhouse offense.
Case in point, USC yesterday. UCLA was the first decent defensive team they had faced - what happened to that 'juggernaut' offense?These teams should try playing in the SEC where there is defense week in and week out.
Marko said:
posted on December 3, 2006 4:28 PM — 70.127.205.96 — link — abuse?
Congratulation to the Ohio State Buckeyes for winning the National Championship today.
The sacrificial lambs(Florida) will be slaughtered in Glendale, thanks to the pollsters that vote against a rematch instead of sticking to their principles and voting for the 2nd best team in the country.
Ohio State 53 - Florida 3
Le said:
posted on December 3, 2006 4:28 PM — 67.113.153.212 — link — abuse?
Looks like the polls are favoring Florida, so this is somewhat of a moot point but...
Suppose Michgian were to get their rematch AND beat OSU in the championship game, what the hell does that prove? They would have each beaten each other once in back to back games. How could you then crown Michican the undisputed national champs?
People are are trying to make this case that the game is about pitting #1 vs. #2, but isn't this really about trying to give us an undisputed national champion? I think an OSU vs. Florida game does that better than an OSU vs. Michigan game.
jeff says said:
posted on December 3, 2006 4:31 PM — 69.242.211.181 — link — abuse?
I think what has Michigan fans upset is the way Urban Meyer bad mouthed U-M for the last two weeks while Lloyd Carr refused to say anything negative about Florida. Regardless of who makes it to the game, Meyer was pretty classless to not only lobby so hard for it, but to also bad mouth another program in the progress. Michigan took the classy approach, Florida took the classless approach. I think Meyer owes Carr an apology, and I saw several commentators on TV this morning echo that sentiment.
Luke said:
posted on December 3, 2006 4:48 PM — 24.250.217.142 — link — abuse?
Guess what michigan fans? Coaches become famous for winning championships, not for being respectful and bowing out. If your coach wanted the championship he should have done just what meyer is doing. Who can blame meyer he is a smart man. If you sit around and let people give u shit, shit is what u will get. Have fun eating it michigan!!!
Florida's in the championship baby. Yeah marko how do u like that sucker? Be realistic with your posts, ohio state has not won already. I think ohio state is overrated and could lose to UF by more than a touchdown. Ohio States beat 2 teams in the top 25.
volstrike3 said:
posted on December 3, 2006 4:56 PM — 75.20.190.14 — link — abuse?
Marko,
You are truely out of your mind if you think Florida is a sacrificial lamb. OSU is a good football team but they are hardly unbeatable. They have not been battle tested. That win agaist Texas has been somewhat tainted and nobody really knows how good UM is. Sure they beat ND, who in the top 20 wouldn't?
saturdaze said:
posted on December 3, 2006 5:00 PM — 71.3.12.208 — link — abuse?
Who cares by how many points a team wins by? It's W's and L's. Was it so long ago that Ohio State won every game in dramatic fashion by 1 or only a few points to go to the national championship. Everyone said Miami was going to wax them in the NC game. Who won??? Refresh my memory please. The scenarios of our team beat this team by this many and your team only won by this much is moronic. There are a thousand factors that weigh into each game ( including that your watching a bunch of 18 to 21 year olds). It's a game. It's for entertainment purposes only. Florida or Ohio State winning doesn't end world hunger. It doesn't end wars. It's a freakin 18 year olds game for entertainment.
TNGator said:
posted on December 3, 2006 5:05 PM — 4.154.62.42 — link — abuse?
Well, it is good to finally see the shoe on the other foot and someone other than an SEC school being shut out in the cold, sucks doesn't it?
We need a playoff system even if it's the Final Four.
Let the whining commence.......
Hudson said:
posted on December 3, 2006 5:05 PM — 72.187.182.70 — link — abuse?
I love it that everyone knows just how badly Ohio State will beat Florida. How about some of these other nuggets of common knowledge from the recent past?
"Ohio State has no chance against the powerhouse of Miami"- January 2003
"I expect the USC tandem of Bush, Leinart, and White to be just too much for Texas"- January 2006
"USC will easily beat UCLA and make their reservations for Glendale"- December 1, 2006
Now "Ohio State will slaughter the Gators- only Michigan is capable of taking them down". Whatever. Let me tell you something about Florida. They are the toughest team anyone will face all year. They have fought tooth and nail week after week in the toughest schedule in the toughest conference in college football. They have weapons on both sides of the ball, a defense that does not usually give up more than 20 points, and special teams that block kicks and make plays when needed. They have battle scars on their battle scars. Bottom line is, Florida just knows how to win, and if their offense is clicking, I think they're the most dangerous team in football and could hang with Ohio State at least as well as Michigan. Now we'll get a chance to find out.
RealityGl said:
posted on December 3, 2006 5:12 PM — 71.65.37.178 — link — abuse?
The Big Ten has 3 teams in the top 5/ 6 alone,while the SEC only has 2. How is the SEC a better conference? Why are voters so afraid to give a hats off to the Big 10 for producing the nations top teams this year? Why should a team be penalized for already playing a team and penalized for playing less games? This is why Florida is going, not because of their merit,because its pretty clear who is the better team, but because of the noit wanting a rematch and SEC egos. And of course Ohio State wants to play Florida, why risk getting beaten by the true #2 MI team in the nation when you can slaughter Florida?
zieb said:
posted on December 3, 2006 5:33 PM — 65.92.206.187 — link — abuse?
What’s with these SEC coaches trying to whine their way into a national championship game?
The Gator Nation should be ashamed. The only reason Florida has its one and only national championship is because the Gators got a mulligan and got to play FSU again. Bottom line, Urban, your team is not that good and wouldn’t last five minutes with Michigan, Ohio State or USC.Christine said:
posted on December 3, 2006 5:40 PM — 75.22.29.227 — link — abuse?
Michigan is the second best team in the country, and likely the only team that could potentially beat OSU - they came within 3 at OSU, on a neutral field they could win. So they will be ranked #2 again after OSU spanks FL!
FL is not as great as everyone on here (apparently FL grads, judging by the poor grammar and spelling) seems to think. That will be proven on Jan 8!
Gatorpilot said:
posted on December 3, 2006 5:44 PM — 70.121.100.84 — link — abuse?
Keep thinking that, Kev. Keep thinking that. We love it.
Can't WAIT to play OSU. The speed and power of the SEC's finest team meets the Big 10.
Not only will the Gators dodge a "spankin'," I think we'll win the whole dadgum thing.
So Cal USMC said:
posted on December 3, 2006 5:45 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
Michigan is the 2nd best team in terms of how they've all "Looked"... but what Florida accomplished in their overall schedule is more than what Michigan did.
Its not a matter of "who's fault it is" or about placing "blame" on something or other, it is what it is -- we cant be selective with our reasoning/logic.
jimmy said:
posted on December 3, 2006 5:53 PM — 216.15.33.233 — link — abuse?
Reality GI:
does anyone on the planet think that Wisconsin deserves to be in the top 6? Please.consult their schedule for evidence:
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/wwo/schedule
Tennessee or Auburn or LSU or Arkansas would eat Wisconsin alive, and have all at least beat ONE GOOD TEAM.
The Big Ten may have 2 good teams, but that's it. It's a 2 team conference.
SoonerTaft said:
posted on December 3, 2006 5:56 PM — 68.97.9.76 — link — abuse?
Luke, you are an idiot. Miami isn't even close to "one of the largest cities in the U.S." Miami barely makes top 50, actually Oklahoma City beats Miami by 17 states as having a larger population.
I love my World Almanac. Know your shit.Don V said:
posted on December 3, 2006 5:56 PM — 70.119.92.96 — link — abuse?
I must've missed it with my orange and blue ears because I hear a lot of Michigan fans saying Meyer insulted the Michigan program. I don't remember any of that - the closest statement I remember is "The other team had a shot." If that's an insult guys, toughen up. Otherwise, give me a verifable quote where he insulted the Michigan program. No question he was campaigning, but he was working his butt off to get his team where he thought they belonged. Not sure how you can think less of him for that.
Nice to see Carr take it so well today, directly attacking Meyer. Well done and it fits the UM fans in here - taking personal shots at the Gators.
Now, as far as Danielson goes, he was just mimicing what we saw all day on ABC/ESPN where every time they mentioned USC/UCLA, it was "If USC wins, they go to the title game." Sorry, it should not have been a fait accompli at that point. What if USC wins on a last second play and Florida had blown out Arky by 40? Glad it was all irrelevant, but if you're going to beat on Danielson, take it out on all the media.
PopsMich said:
posted on December 3, 2006 5:58 PM — 71.77.24.80 — link — abuse?
Sober Assessment:
Congratulations UF and good luck on Jan 8th. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.Now listen closely. You are not the 2nd best team in the country today. You are the beneficiary of voters failing to execute their duty, being to choose the 2 best teams. Instead, the bias of not winning your conference and not wanting to see a rematch got you over the top.
USC conveniently fit the bill until yesterday. Their loss necessitated your leapfrog to No. 2. That is the only way to explain how you suddenly picked up about 1/2 of the 2nd place votes in all Polls.
I'm not bitter, since as a college football fan I actually prefer the matchups we're getting. As a Michigan fan, I'd love to see UM get a shot at the NC, but that won't happen.
The BCS ranking is only flawed since it promises the best 2 teams without limitation. Today's events clearly show that is NOT the case, but instead a process of preference.
At least a playoff system delivers as promised - win and you're in. It doesn't promise the 2 best teams, just the winners. Sometimes we even get the 2 best teams. In general, as fans, we're more accepting of that, and the college Presidents should end this madness.
The BCS analyst on ESPN did an excellent job of breaking this down. Listen to him closely, and you get the same message - Michigan is the 2nd best team, but not the preferred opponent for OSU.
Good Luck Gators. I'll be pulling for you.
Luke said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:04 PM — 24.250.217.142 — link — abuse?
Ok Sooner, in my opinion the top 50 cities is "one of the largest." since there are thousands of cities. Wow you guys argue about everything. Basically in comparison to gainesville, Miami is a shitload bigger, how about that for you?
posted on December 3, 2006 6:06 PM — link — abuse?
Guys - City size & demographics are **way** off topic. Take it offline via email, please.
terzo22 said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:17 PM — 65.80.239.84 — link — abuse?
You Florida fans are sick, last week there was no talk of how FL would run all over OSU. NO, you Florida fans were just hoping something crazy would happen and maybe you would get a shot. Now that it happens you guys really show your class, instead of feeling lucky to get in you switch to being arrogant and basically calling OSU overrated. Let me tell you something its the furthest thing from the truth. How do you go from being humble to being arrogant in a day? Just be thankful you get a shot and anything could happen, but don't dare try to decipher the game or tell me why Florida is going to win. You guys dropped the ball this season your just lucky everyone else besides Ohio St. did too. Ohio St. has nothing to prove to anyone its Florida who has to prove they belong. Just try not to get blown out and that might be possible.
Don V said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:18 PM — 70.119.92.96 — link — abuse?
PopsMich:
Thanks for the wishes and it brings up a good point. If the Gators are truly in the MNC, I hope and would expect we have the support of the Wolverines.
As far as who's the #2 team, no one knows. Everyone has opinions - without MULTIPLE common opponents, I don't know how you can unequivocately state Michigan is #2.
Good luck and take out USC, if that ends up being the opponent.
GatorMatt said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:18 PM — 65.40.42.140 — link — abuse?
Ok seriously, this is getting ridiculous. The only way to know if a team is the "best in the country" is to have every team play a 119 game schedule and play every division 1 team. that would be a game about every 3 days. Until then, it is left up to the voters. Michigan fans, please stop whining. Your boys had their chance to beat Ohio State and move up to number one, and couldn't do it. Step back and let someone else try. And for the record, I'd love to see Troy Smith's passing game with Reggie Nelson roaming around the secondary. You don't become one of the 3 best defensive players in the country without earning it
RealityGl said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:20 PM — 71.65.37.178 — link — abuse?
jimmy-
so are you for or against the current system? Wisconsin is rated as high as they are because...they recieved for votes from coaches and the press than the SEC teams ranked BELOW them. Maybe YOU should be the one checking out the stats..
http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2006&div=4&rpt=IA_teamtotdef&site=org
Wisconsin in #3 in the country in total defense and #2 in the country in passing defense. Not deservant?
What planet are YOU from?
jerry said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:26 PM — 24.158.125.117 — link — abuse?
kevin and marko must be blinded by stupidness, or just crazy fans. In the mid 80's the polls and press said the same thing about the miami and alabama championship. Everyone was so convienced miami would whip bama.If your old enough to rem. bama won by more than 30 points. Just because miami looked like a powerhouse in that div..
I would hardly say just having a faily good tailback and pretty good off. line make ohio a powerhouse( hudson ).
Volstrike and chief are right the big 10 and sec are the the best div in the ncaa. If Ohio had lost 3 games and won that div. they could argue the fact they should be there. The sec feels the same.
I am a vol and watched tenn get some very con. calls from the officials against fla and lsu. And the polls didn't give us the same previledge as mich. Much less letting two sec teams play twice for it.
Personaly I dislike fla., and ark just plainly whiped us. Florida should go being sec champs.The sec champs should always play for the title knowing the sced. to get there!
After florida beats ohio by at least 10 points, they will keep that no.1 rank going into next year. And the vols get to go down to the swomp and get some pay back. you big 10 babys!
GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LATimes said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:27 PM — 69.171.49.181 — link — abuse?
It's over guys. The LA Times is reporting that a BCS source has confirmed that Florida is #2 in the final standings. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-bcs4dec04,0,948269.story?coll=la-home-sports
trueblue said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:28 PM — 205.188.116.133 — link — abuse?
Michigan is the #2 team in the country. Florida, congrats your whining and politicing may have bought you trip to Arizona, but youll be crushed. Michigan WOULD BEAT OHIO STATE, OSU knows, thats why they didnt vote. HERES A GREAT POINT FOR MICHIGAN FANS TO MAKE---IF USC WON, WOULD FLORIDA HAVE PASSED YOU AND MOVED TO #3 !!!HELL NO!!!! If Carr wont campaign ,I will . Its all about $$$$$$$
BO is in heaven watching this and cursed is what Florida and everyone voting for Florida will feel after OSU wipes the floor with you!!!!!!EastTexasBlue said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:30 PM — 74.192.221.175 — link — abuse?
I have been reading blogs and debating since last night(I know...I know..get a life..) and what is blatently missing from all trash being talked is any Florida or SEC fan suggesting that they can actually beat OSU! I bleed Blue, and have no doubt that a neutral re-match gives us a win this time!! I also heard Danielson's ignorant ass say while showing his ridiculous "plus and minus win system" that you should look at the the "wins and losses and not give this situation the eyeball test". Awesome!!! OK. The Iowa State and Ohio State teams both have QB's with great stas, but how do i know who is better? I WATCH THEM!!!That statement is the equivalent of dating a chick who "has a great personality" over the hotter, more well-rounded blonde!!! I mean, both ARE women, right?
I watch way too much football to think that fla has a chance in the game, and Meyer and Leak will both choke on the pressure!! How many gadget plays can OSU shut down with their speed? Seriously, will Leak actually finish this game, or will they have to bring in Tebow(True Frosh) to help the senior "leader" out in the first quarter, after OSU blitzes during warm-ups? How does fla deal with a team that passes more than 30 times per game, down the field?
Watch and see what you hear from the SEC and fla fans: CONFERENCE Title respect and not much else. So what about your conference?? 3 Big Ten teams would have won your conference this year, so you can f-ing have it! I also hear about your fans being the best in the country. I love your fans SEC, but fans can't play the games, they can only live vicariously through the players to forget their miserable existence in the swamps and jail cells of your lands! I would be a GREAT SEC football fan too, if it meant that grandpa stopped chasing me around the trailer for sex during those long boring games...but I digress...
The really sad part of this is that we miss a great game because of politics and money. I was rooting for USC, because I saw this debacle coming, and at least wanted to see a great championship game. I now know that I will not.
Congrats SEC you didn't get screwed again.... College football fans did.
RealityGl said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:31 PM — 71.65.37.178 — link — abuse?
Wisconsin in total offense is better than 10 of the reams in the SEC and 11 teams in the SEC in total defense (via NCAA OFFICIAL STATS and not crappy yahoo).
Rich and to To those who tell UM fans to stop whining...The polls show that HALF this country thinks UM is the true #2, and I fully doubt that half the country are UM fans.
SoonerTaft said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:32 PM — 68.97.9.76 — link — abuse?
Sorry Kevin, just trying to hold facts accountable.
On another note, Florida does not deserve to play OSU. The only reason Michigan lost was because it was at OSU. Now let the two best teams play on neutral site. End of story.
PopsMich said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:48 PM — 71.77.24.80 — link — abuse?
Don V. - I'll be pulling for Florida.
As for #2, its opinion (of course). Be open minded and listen (rather than talking trash to OSU). Read this from Terry Bowden
Also, listen (very closely) to what the BCS Analyst on ESPN is saying. I forget his name, but he's all over this stuff.Ash said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:51 PM — 71.52.20.71 — link — abuse?
Everyone is already counting the Gators out, when they play Ohio State, man have I heard that before. But I guess thats why they play the game on the field and not on a computer. We will see Jan 8th, as hard as this is being a Seminole Fan Go Gators.
Luke said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:56 PM — 24.250.217.142 — link — abuse?
Wisonsin should be #1 in the country in total defense and passing defense considering they play highschools almost all season.
And Ohio State does have 1 more thing left to prove, that they can hang with the SEC. They beat Florida and ohio state gets my respect. As for michigan, over-rated.
Nattie Title said:
posted on December 3, 2006 6:59 PM — 76.182.169.174 — link — abuse?
For those of you who say a re-match is in order because other NCAA sanctioned sports (like in college basketball) offer them, you are comparing 2 entirely different scenerios. If football had a playoff, Ohio State would be rewarded for being unbeaten during the regular season and beating 'tsun' (the school up north) by NOT having to turn right around and play one game to hand the arch-rival a National Title. They would play a lesser ranked team (not an easy opponent) and then, if each won their way to the title game, would/should lay it all on the line. Otherwise, having to play an arch rival back to back in college football, a game where emotion and redemption play huge roles (see USC vs. UCLA), is ridiculous to say the least. The team that wins the first game is put at a distinct disadvantage in the re-match. There is nothing fair or right about that. Why should a team have to beat their arch-rival twice to win what the loser of game one only has to win once? That thinking is totally without basis or reason. Then again, in an insane world, it is the sane who are crazy!
In college basketball, name one circumstance where a top-ranked team wins their conference championship and has to turn around and in the first game of NCAA tournament and play their arch-rival for the National Title? You can't because it has never hapened and never ever will.
Only a play-off will settle some of the flaws in the BCS. I am no fan of a re-match even if Ohio State had lost and I am a huge fan. That would be ridiculously unfair to 'tsun' for doing what they did when they needed to do it. I would also add that not a single fan of the 'tusn' would want a re-match had you won in Columbus on Nov. 18, giving Ohio State one chance to win the national championship when you needed to accomplish that fete twice!
The argument that 'tsun' only lost on the road by 3 is without basis, too. The last time I checked, a loss is a loss, period. The score of that game was NOT indicative of what actually took place in the game (OSU over 500 yards in total offense but 3 TO's, 2 botched snaps from center deep in OSU territory that were NOT caused by the defense, was the ONLY thing that kept the game close).
One more thing is that for the many of you who are claiming 'tsun' is the 2nd best team in the country, there is simply no real way to know that. All emotion and rooting interests aside, Florida had a great year and won their way into the title game (if that is what happens). Florida has a terrific argument for being in the game just as fans of 'tsun' feel they do. You can point to any announcer or prognasticator and use them as examples of people who side with you but, the truth be known, there is someone of note saying the exact opposite about the other team. The ONLY truth is that we don't know who is better, Florida or 'tsun.'
Go Bucks!
Gatorbait said:
posted on December 3, 2006 7:09 PM — 70.244.180.129 — link — abuse?
No matter what happens in 57 minutes, someone is going to be on the outside looking in and it's goign to be unfair. Ultimately, this is a good thing bc it will 100% warrant a change to the current system. Why not have OSU play LSU and MICH play FLORIDA then have the two winners meet a week later. Sounds pretty simple to me, and I think we will have that in 2008. I hope the Gators get a shot at OSU, and I think OSU fans would want the same thing. Not because FLA would be a sure win, like previous idiotic posts mentioned above, but because IF OSU did beat FLA they would be the undisputed champs bc they beat a conference champ from the best conference in football. If they played michigan and won, everyone would say, "Yea, but...they already proved they could beat them, they just did it again, or they didnt even play another conference champ, etc. It makes the most since to end the questioning and let the conference champ from the best conference play the current undisputed #1 team in the country. Go Gators.
SEC-4-Prez said:
posted on December 3, 2006 7:11 PM — 71.206.249.201 — link — abuse?
It's fun to think about the big ol' sh1t burger all the Big-10 band-waggoners will be eating when "The OSU" faces a team from the best conference in the nation...this isn't Cincinnati, Bowling Green or the Fightin' Zookers...OSU's got lots of speed, but last I checked, Florida isn't slow either...
You Eff Fan said:
posted on December 3, 2006 7:11 PM — 68.233.60.96 — link — abuse?
To all you sore ass Michigan fans who do not give UF a chance against Ohio State: Keep that talk coming, cause it is the same crapola we heard at last year's basketball finals. We love the underdog position! One by one the so called giants were chomped by the Gators until we stood alone with the Championship! Here we go again with football!
Prediction: Ohio State 17, UF 30
Don V said:
posted on December 3, 2006 7:14 PM — 70.119.92.96 — link — abuse?
Sorry, PopsMich, if you have Terry Bowden on your side, run away. We have him as the drive-time talk show host here in Orlando and he's not very good (to put it kindly). He's good at showing his ignorance.
That said, I understand all the points - that's not the point. If OSU blows our doors off, then you will have been right. Any other outcome and the point will be highly contested.
saturdaze said:
posted on December 3, 2006 7:17 PM — 71.3.12.208 — link — abuse?
Florida is in because they campaigned for it? Good for them. Their there. Mack Brown for a Texas BCS bid two years ago? Worked didn't it? LSU pre-selling tickets for a BCS game, politicing? In the Sugar/BCS game. It's all about money.
HawkEye said:
posted on December 3, 2006 7:18 PM — 69.19.14.15 — link — abuse?
Here are the cold, hard facts when comparing the Gators and Wolverines:
1. Florida beat nine teams that are projected to play in bowl games. Michigan beat six.
2. Michigan beat five teams that finished the season with losing records. Florida beat two teams with sub-.500 records.3. Florida's 12 Division I-A opponents had a combined record of 89-57. Michigan's 12 opponents had a combined record of 84-61.
4. Michigan's best win is considered a 27-13 victory over Wisconsin on Sept. 23. The Badgers are 11-1 and have climbed to No. 7 in the AP Top 25 poll, despite having played only one ranked opponent -- the Wolverines -- the entire season.
5. The 12 teams Florida defeated finished the season with 11 combined wins against opponents which were ranked in the AP Top 25 poll at the time the game was played. The opponents Michigan defeated claim just three wins against ranked teams (Notre Dame beat Penn State. Indiana beat Iowa. Vanderbilt beat Georgia. The Nittany Lions, Hawkeyes and Bulldogs, it should be noted, haven't been ranked in seven weeks).
6. The Gators went 3-1 against ranked opponents, beating then-No. 13 Tennessee, No. 9 LSU and No. 8 Arkansas and losing at No. 11 Auburn. The Wolverines went 1-1 against ranked opponents, beating a highly overrated No. 2 Notre Dame team (that lost to Michigan and USC by a combined total of 46 points) and losing at No. 1 Ohio State 42-39 on Nov. 18.
7. The Gators' average margin of victory against Division I-A teams was 13.5 points. They won seven games by 14 points or fewer, six by less than 10. The Wolverines' average margin of victory was 17.3 points. They won six games by 14 points or fewer, two by less than 10.
8. The Gators played Western Carolina, a Division I-AA team, and won by 62 points. The Wolverines played Ball State, which should be a I-AA team, and won by eight.
9. Since the Wolverines last played and lost at Ohio State, the Gators won at Florida State (The Seminoles are 6-6, but rivalry games are tough to win. Just ask USC coach Pete Carroll) and then beat the No. 8 Razorbacks, who defeated then-No. 2 Auburn and No. 13 Tennessee by 17 points each.
10. Michigan didn't win the Big Ten; Florida won the SEC. Winning your conference should be a prerequisite for playing in the national championship.
AshMD said:
posted on December 3, 2006 7:20 PM — 71.65.37.178 — link — abuse?
And there are no "highschools" in the SEC? Right...
If your going to play a less competitive team, then you better win it big, as Wisconsin has done.
The majority of LSUs schedule was made up of "highschools" (your words to describe a less competitive team, how very insulting to many many teams)...
The SEC has always had the biggest ego in college football, so I guess i can't expect much more from them.rebel1222 said:
posted on December 3, 2006 7:23 PM — 12.175.230.57 — link — abuse?
Man, Stop whining about Michigan. THEY PLAYED A WEAK ASS SCHEDULE! Who did they play other than Ohio state? Wisconsin and Notre Dame is it. Ball state Northwestern, etc, etc.
They don't deserve a another shot. I can't beleieve a team with that weak a scedule is even in the top 5. I'm not even a Gator fan. But I can read the schedules. For someeone not to acknowlege the weak schedule of Michigan means that they are deluded, or blinded by their loyalty to their team.
Hey, I've got an idea. Both Michigan and Florida have the next couple weeks off. Why don't they play each other at a neutral site? Winner plays ohio state.
Gator Boys said:
posted on December 3, 2006 7:26 PM — 64.238.162.154 — link — abuse?
You guys quit hating on Urban Meyer. What he says is true and you cant blame him for feeling cheated if UF doesnt get in. I'm sure Carr knows that UF deserves it more, thats why he's not going out and saying UM deserves it.
Jerry, what you say is mostly true, but about the calls in the UT-UF game, UT definately got the advantage. James Returned a kick for a TD and they called a block in the Side a block in the back. James was also going to return another kick for a TD but the kicker stuck out his foot and tripped him. No call. Other than that, yea, SEC rules, go gators
RealityGl said:
posted on December 3, 2006 7:36 PM — 71.65.37.178 — link — abuse?
UM weak schedule??????
Please...know your facts before you run your mouth off with BS....
Overall Strength of schedule:
UF #1 0.637, #2 UM 0.624
I don't see a weak schedule there (less than a hundreth of a point from Florida)
posted on December 3, 2006 7:36 PM — link — abuse?
Update: 2006 BCS Bowl Games and National Championship have been released.
MBM30075 said:
posted on December 3, 2006 7:39 PM — 24.196.239.245 — link — abuse?
Everyone keeps talking about the strength of the Big 10. They say that the Big 10 is just solid top to bottom. Let's review (all rankings per current USA Today poll):
Big 10
1. OSU (#1) - a great, great team. Florida will have a tough game on their hands
2. Michigan (#3) - also a great team
3. Wisconsin (#5) - maybe a great team, but they need to play a tough team to prove this
The next best Big 10 team? 30th ranked Penn State.SEC
1. Florida (#2) - a team that has the chance to win the national title
2. LSU (#4) - a tough, tough team who was pretty close to being 12-0, not 10-2
3. Auburn (#10) - everyone is calling this team "an average Auburn team", but they're tough and very, very good
4. Arkansas (#13) - this is actually a little too low; they were penalized too much for losing against a great team
5. Tennessee (#18)
6. Georgia (#28)So, please tell me how the Big 10 is so much better than the SEC? I'm not trying to bash the Big 10, I just think we need to look at the facts. Also, until we have a lot of good out-of-conference games (and what incentive do most teams have to schedule them), it's hard to truly quantify who is better. Just for kicks, though, Jeff Sagarin of USA Today, one of the BCS's computers, ranks the conferences this way:
1. PAC-10
2. SEC
3. BIG EAST
4. BIG 10
5. BIG 12That's right, boys and girls. The Big 10 isn't first. It's not second. Not even third. In fact, the Big East (which can't be called a powerhouse conference) ranks tougher top to bottom.
Anyway, no matter what side you are on, everyone knows there is no great solution to this dilemma. Even a playoff system, which seems like it would be the best, has potential flaws. Still, that's what I'd like to see.
The fact remains, though, that Florida did everything they needed to do to have a shot at the title. Michigan did, too, but only 2 teams can play (right now).
One final thing, though - how is everyone SOOOO sure Michigan (and Wisconsin) would thrash Florida? What will you guys say if Florida wins?
USC4Ever said:
posted on December 3, 2006 7:57 PM — 71.233.38.236 — link — abuse?
It strikes me as odd that so many of you think that the Big Ten is a harder conference than the SEC. Give me a break. Sure the Big Ten has two great teams (Michigan and Ohio St.) and a good team (Wisconsin), but the rest of the teams in the conference...give me a break. Wisconsin's only game against a ranked opponent was Michigan! The total number of ranked teams beaten by Michigan's opponents is 3 - Notre Dame beat Penn State, Indiana beat Iowa, Vandy beat Georgia (Penn St, Indiana, and Vandy haven't been ranked for the last half of the season)! The Big 10 is not nearly as good as the SEC. To win the SEC conference a team has to play at least good if not great in every game. To have a one loss season in the SEC a team has to play to their potential with CONSISTENCY week in and week out...this CANNOT be said for the Big 10.
Go Trojans...can't wait for more PAC 10/SEC matchups!
screw florida said:
posted on December 3, 2006 8:34 PM — 68.221.22.66 — link — abuse?
wat is this bull crap i mean florida is terrible chris leak my butt michigan deserves to play more then them. idc wat u mite have to say michigan is better than florida and would destroy them. look wat they did to ND. I mean come on. And anotha thing BOISE STATE IN THE FRIGGEN BCS THEY SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. THERE CONFERENCE IS TERRIBLE AND SO R THEY. Michigan had a great season and florida did to but florida doesnt deserve crap.
Terry said:
posted on December 3, 2006 8:48 PM — 68.43.81.210 — link — abuse?
My response is to Brendon in post #38. Brendon says, " Their only quality wins were against Wisconsin and Notre Dame. Notre Dame and Wisconsin can not be classified as good beyond what they are arbitrarily ranked in the polls. Their schedules are ridiculously easy. Ohio State on the other hand beat Penn State, Iowa, Texas and Michigan."
Are you serious? Do you have a clue? On top of beating ND and Wisconsin, Michigan beat Iowa and Penn State just as Ohio State did. At least get your facts straight before making comments.
What amazes me is that before USC lost to UCLA no one gave Florida a chance of pulling ahead of Michigan. All of the discussions and articles posted were USC or Michigan? They didn't expect USC to lose and now the only reason Florida was voted ahead of Michigan is because they don't want to see the rematch. It's not about putting the two best teams in the game anymore. It's about not wanting to see OSU and Michigan play again. I don't agree with it but I don't blame the voters for wanting to see a different matchup. Michigan did have their chance at OSU and lost by 3 after losing their safety in the 1st qtr and being denied a chance to take the lead in the 4th qtr after a ridiculous helmet to helmet personal foul against Michigan on a 3rd and 15 play that was only called because it was on the OSU sideline. It's amazing the USC defender from yesterday that viciously speared the UCLA QB with his helmet didn't get a penalty. I wonder why, maybe because a call like that in a big game is awful! It looks like Michigan will get to play USC in the Rose Bowl which is the matchup I was hoping for if they didn't get the rematch.
As far as the SEC, it's a down year for the conference without a doubt. Florida struggled against an average at best South Carolina team at home. If it wasn't for a blocked extra point and 2 blocked field goals they don't win. Then there is the one common opponent Michigan and Florida do have, Vanderbilt. Michigan beat Vandy 27-7 and Florida struggled winning 25-19. The great Florida defense the Florida fans talk so highly of gave up almost double the yardage to Vandy compared to the Michigan's D. Ask Vanderbilt who was the better team?
I'm a huge college football fan, I'm not even a Michigan fan but the facts don't lie. If you Florida fans want to know, I'm an Alabama and SEC fan. I've been watching the SEC all my life and this year the conference is without a doubt on the downside. I'm not going to say Florida doesn't have a chance becasue they do. OSU is flawed and I believe they have a better chance at beating OSU than they would Michigan. My opinion, Michigan is a better team than OSU but the best team doesn't always win. That game was a tale of two halves and the Michigan defense didn't show up until the secondhalf they dominated. So be happy you're playing OSU Florida fan instead of Michigan. You might have a chance at a title....
OSU 34
FLA 21
That score is closer than the actual game will be. Florida needed a blocked punt and a muffed punt in the endzone to beat Arkansas, that will not happen against Ohio State.Tipp said:
posted on December 3, 2006 8:55 PM — 68.114.23.128 — link — abuse?
Michigan has to win their conference before they can make it to the National Title. Florida plays in a conference where 9 teams are bowl eligible and wins the conference. The Gators will also beat Ohio State in the title game...a 50 day layoff is just too long. So everyone get used to Florida Gators National Champions again!!
BCS=CRAP said:
posted on December 3, 2006 8:56 PM — 24.30.24.25 — link — abuse?
I think these results are very funny. Come Jan 9th i think people will realize after Florida gets ROMPED by the buckeyes an michigan handles USC i believe the voters will be slapping themselves, until they screw it up again next year.
Florida may have won the SEC championship but it was sloppy for the gators this season. i could go on for hours but what is done is done. Florida do us all a favor an EMBARRASS yourself so once again it shows how crappy the BCS is. Headlines will read " BCS DOH"
jerry said:
posted on December 3, 2006 8:57 PM — 24.158.125.117 — link — abuse?
gator boy your also right to a degree. There where many bad calls to both sides. The sec officials where terrible this year. Its alomost like there would be a bad call or not a call at all for a side. Then a another bad one to try to make up for it, to the other. How does either win this way. The lsu game was the same way (damn).
But overall floria has played better threw the brutal sec sced., and being a bigger sec fan I am happy to see one sec team get to represent for a national title.(like should always happen!)
I feel tommy's tigers and lsu has been cut out in the last few years. co- champs is not the truth of the matter.
I also hope mich. has to play ark. or lsu, just to show the fact that every year 3 or 4 sec teams could be national contenders over other div.Ohio and mich fans will be really shocked by the sec's speed and hitting. I think most of either teams won't finish the game, from being just being beat up and cramps. Every set of downs losing someone else. Hell florida's linemen and tight ends are faster than there backs!
I'll bet the ohio state buckeyes aren't as foolish as the fans in this room. Everyone should take florida serious. The only way they can lose is for urban to be out done. Cause florida has better athletes.
The state of florida has 3 great school because it offers so much more. who in there right mind wants to be in ohio or mich. Yeah (ha,ha,ha) I plan on going to the middle of nowhere next time I step out my door. If I was them I would be looking forward to leaving too.BCS = SUCKS said:
posted on December 3, 2006 9:02 PM — 24.30.24.25 — link — abuse?
TNGator. post 110
Son u need not worry about the line. Funny in Vegas florida was a -6 to michigan. an michigan lost to Ohio State by 3, so id say ur lookin at at least 10 points. but like i said dont worry about the line, id worry about the sloppy play an how much ur gonna get destroyed by the buckeyes. GG BCS
GA Boy said:
posted on December 3, 2006 9:06 PM — 66.110.197.20 — link — abuse?
As you may expect, I can't stand the Gators, but I am very glad that they are going to the NC game. It will give everybody a chance to see the difference between the SEC and Big 10. Wait until you see what TN and Ark do to the Penn State and Wisconson. Wait until you see what LSU does to Big 10 wannabe Notre Dame. This will be a good Bowl season for the SEC. I wouldn't be suprised to see them win all 8 of their bowl games! GO DAWGS!!! Beat VA Tech!
Terry said:
posted on December 3, 2006 9:21 PM — 68.43.81.210 — link — abuse?
Isn't that amazing, Michigan would be a 6 point favorite against Florida. The OSU/FLA line will be at least 10.
Can anyone give any reasonable reasoning as to why Florida has been behind Michigan in the polls the past two weeks but now that USC loses the voters decide to put Florida ahead of Michigan? If USC would have pulled it out Florida would have stayed at #4 behind Michigan. Is there any doubt that the only reason Florida jumped Michigan is because the human voters didn't want to see a rematch? I think not......
Buckeye Fan said:
posted on December 3, 2006 9:37 PM — 69.81.141.153 — link — abuse?
Just a couple of thoughts:
The SEC might be a good conference but with the computers ranking Michigan and Fla in a tie then they each played tough schedules.
And the argument that you have to have won the conference to play in the NC game must have started right after Oklahoma lost their conference in 2004 and then lost the NC game against USC while the winner in the Big 12 got beat by Ohio State at the Fiesta Bowl.
It doesn't matter who Ohio State plays Coach Tressel will have them prepared. There is a reason that he has 4 national titles in Div 1AA and already 1 in Div 1A with the possibility of a second within 6 years of entering the Div 1A coaching ranks.
TNGator said:
posted on December 3, 2006 9:44 PM — 4.154.58.219 — link — abuse?
BCS: 114
The Gators have put together fine halves this season, but not an entire game. With this much time to prepare for the game, there is absolutely no way in hell we lose this game by the opening line (which is 8, and I'm locked in ; ) ) Anyone that thinks Meyer will not have this team ready is on drugs. OSU is a fine team, but hardly unbeatable. We put together two halves in this one and we win. On the flip side, if we do not put together two halves, we lose but either way it goes, we will cover the spread.
bucky in michigan said:
posted on December 3, 2006 10:21 PM — 24.247.241.106 — link — abuse?
All of you Michigan fanboys are friggin hilarious. You already lost to OSU, you don't DESERVE another shot. I live up here in Michigan now, so I have to hear it all the time (especially when I wear my bucks jacket).
Yeah, yeah...I know...you only lost by three points, right. Well if you take away the two foolish fumbled snaps which your team was able to get control of and run for a scoring drive, you would have lost by 17. We can even take back that personal foul when you hit Troy Smith (the soon to be winner of the Heisman), and you still would have lost by 10.
Best defense in the country - yeah right, 500 yards on that defense.
That being said, I still think that Michigan is better then Florida, and I would have liked to have seen a rematch so we could do it all over again. OSU is the undisputed #1 team in the country. Perfect 1.000 BCS score, and no sports writer, coach, or anyone else for that matter says any different. Only the armchair fanboys say otherwise. Even Florida's coach said OSU was the #1 team when they interviewed him during the BCS show tonight.
So to the Michigan fanboys - sorry, I would have liked to have seen the bucks beat you up again, but we won't. Consider the previous game as part of a "playoff" that everyone always talks about, you lost the first time and now it's Florida's turn to lose as well. Tressel has shown he is one of the best coaches in the game right now.
To Florida fanboys, stop your waxing about the SEC being so big and bad and OSU not doing anything. OSU played #2 teams twice so far, and your game will be the 3rd. They'll be the first team to face 3-#2 teams and prevail at every matchup. Prepare yourselves for the #2 spot when the year is out, because that is where you will stay.
The Chief said:
posted on December 3, 2006 2:45 PM — 207.172.105.82 — link — abuse?Michigan already had their chance to beat Ohio State and could not get it done. A rematch would put Ohio State in a double jeopardy situation. A rematch would also allow a team (Michigan) to play for the title even though it couldn't even win it's own conference. Michigan is good but they are the 2nd best in their own conference.
Instead of the Big 10 keeping everything in-house, a Florida - Ohio State match would let everyone see the strength (or weakness) of the Big 10 as compared to the SEC.