January 8, 2007
OPEN THREAD: Ohio State vs Florida
Open thread for the BCS Championshop Game.
Other Resources:
Florida - Every Day Should Be Saturday
Florida - Orange and Blue Hue
Florida - GatorBait
Ohio State - Buckeye Commentary
Ohio State - BuckeyeGrove
Ohio State - Bucknuts
Comments:
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on January 8, 2007 11:43 AM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
Although, I think that Florida has a very fine up and coming program and will compete for National Championships for several years now, I think that they are too young this year to challenge the experience of Ohio State. My prediction is: Ohio State 27 Florida 19. I see too much offensive firepower for OSU. Even though Florida has a solid defense - I think that the Buckeyes will make a few plays that will make the difference. If I see a team really strugglin' offensively - it's gonna be Florida. I will say though - it would not shock me if I were wrong on this one. We've seen much stranger upsets than this one would be.
Tommie T
badgerballer said:
posted on January 8, 2007 12:00 PM — 71.221.103.158 — link — abuse?
Its almost too bad that the winner of this game will be the 'undisputed' champ this year. (Boise's 13-0 isn't a legit gripe, and everybody knows it.) The more controversy surrounding the BCS, the more I like it. I want so much complaining, so much outcry, that the pressure to change never lets up.
In my littl wish-world, Michigan would've laid down a thorough thumping of USC in the Rose. Florida eeks by OSU on a last second, 88 yard field goal to win it by 1. Setting up the stage for Michigan, with its very vocal fan base, to start screaming fowl when Florida gets the crown. And maybe even setting up a split champion, if the AP writers give their championship to Michigan.
But alas, its not to be. I hate to say it, but I'm feeling OSU 27, Florida 14.
C-DOGG said:
posted on January 8, 2007 12:09 PM — 76.188.148.131 — link — abuse?
Gator fans,
I have noticed that you guys really haven't talked too much smack on here. Most of it was directed towards Michigan fans (for obvious reasons). I do still expect your glass slipper to shatter by midnight tonight. If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to eat that slice of humble pie. Miracles can happen (OSU VS Miami), but not tonight.
pumba said:
posted on January 8, 2007 12:30 PM — 65.191.69.217 — link — abuse?
All I hear about is Florida's defense. Michigan was touted the same way against the Bucks, yet they were picked apart by Troy Smith. It will not be a blowout, but it will not be close either. Florida's anemic offense will be unable to score. Defense can only do so much for them. Ohio State has too many weapons like USC has. Florida will be unable to completely stop that machine. We will see all tonight. Go Bucks!!!!
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on January 8, 2007 12:51 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
Badgerballer:
Why would there be a problem if Ohio State wins the game? The Bucks will have beaten Texas, Penn State, Iowa, Michigan and Florida. Boise State will own wins over Oregon State and Oklahoma. Oregon State lost four games. Oklahoma lost three games. Oklahoma lost to Texas. Boise State beat Oklahoma by only one. The same amount that Oregon beat them by. I don't see where an Ohio State National Championship could possibly be disputed. Should OSU win the game - then the BCS will have done it's job for this year.
Tommie T
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on January 8, 2007 1:11 PM — 72.146.114.209 — link — abuse?
Well, I certainly hope my beloved Gators win tonight, but I must be realistic and admit that OSU doesn't really have any weaknesses and the Gators have three: field goal kicking, kick-off coverage, and an inexperienced offensive line. To win, the Gators will have to play near perfection or the Buckeyes will have to show some flaws. Here's hoping!
Go Gators!!
otowngator said:
posted on January 8, 2007 1:37 PM — 24.219.53.9 — link — abuse?
The reason you don't hear us running our mouths is nobody has given us any credit all year long. Same as the basketball team last year and look what happened. If Ohio State wins they they are certainly deserving of it. But being the underdogs that everybody has counted out certainly helps us. We have something to prove and we will. GO GATORS!!
gatorstud said:
posted on January 8, 2007 1:53 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
i have to agree w/ ramblin gator....florida has to play a mistake free game....the one weakness i have to say about smith is he seem to float the ball to hi recievers a little too much..he cannot do that agains floridas speedy backs....but other than that weaknesses are hard to find in osu...but, if the gators can keep it close....i believe florida has the edge in tight game scenarios....they have played in them all year...the gators just seem to find a way to win, in tight games....go gators.....
florida - 34
osu - 246 hours and counting.....
GatorMatt said:
posted on January 8, 2007 1:56 PM — 68.214.113.69 — link — abuse?
I love how everyone counts Florida out. They weren't supposed to beat Tennessee, they weren't supposed to beat LSU, and they were supposed to get crushed by McFadden and Arkansas. If I recall correctly, they won all those games. They have been the underdogs all year, and seem to thrive on it. As for saying Michigan is supposed to have a great defense? That's laughable. John David Booty picked them apart like I've never seen before. Michigan just never faced decent offensive teams
GATORGreg said:
posted on January 8, 2007 2:21 PM — 68.214.120.140 — link — abuse?
I’m predicting a Gator win, final score 23-31 Gators. Nelson plays the game of his life and dedicates everything to his recently passed mother. I think the Gators have too much going for them and Ohio State hasn’t touched a football is 50some odd days. Gators win and I come into work smelling like Mich light.
HarvinforHeisman07 said:
posted on January 8, 2007 3:05 PM — 72.158.254.34 — link — abuse?
We win because our coach is taller and sweater vests are just gay.
Badger Ball is right on with his BCS comments. Obviously, Tommie T we know you like how the BCS is slanted toward the traditional powers - and even now that the Gators benefit, I still hate it. The only thing good about the BCS is that I get to bitch about something and KNOW that I am right.
As for tonight's game - look for my boy Percy to shine. This may be the healthiest he's been all year. Our D line will not pressure Smith much because we rely on our back 7. If they are in the plus column for turnovers (like they have been all year) they will win. In my 25 years of watching CFB I have never seen a defense that plays so well in the red zone - it's uncanny. Reggie Nelson will be the best player on the field tonight in his last game in Orange & Blue.
Good luck Buckeyes. Go Gators.
2007 SEC Champions - possible mythical national champions!
posted on January 8, 2007 4:38 PM — 64.12.116.199 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta said:
If Florida wins, I want all the SEC haters to come out of the woodwork and apologize. Nine bowl teams and all the marbles? Have mercy!
But if Florida does win, I'm going to be extremely bitter because Auburn beat Florida. But I won't be as bitter as Randy. :(
badgerballer said:
posted on January 8, 2007 4:42 PM — 71.211.59.213 — link — abuse?
@TT #10
You are correct, there would be no real issue & OSU would hold the undisputed, though perhaps not undisputable, championship. I was more wrapped up in pointing towards my 'what I wish would happen' scenario than living in the real world.
wareagle524 said:
posted on January 8, 2007 5:11 PM — 63.162.187.94 — link — abuse?
Hey Randy...can you say, "from Ohio" or how about, "current OSU grad student"????
I am also a Columbus, OH resident, that may help clear up any confusion about where my so called "bitterness" stems from. LOL
Auburn was no where near the caliber of a team deserving to play Ohio State. (in my opinion)
This game will be a battle and I personally hope it is close all the way to the end, I hate turning the N.C. game off at halftime.
(ie: 2004 OU v. USC) I was bitter about that one!
MrGamecockFan said:
posted on January 8, 2007 5:21 PM — 63.167.255.30 — link — abuse?
You know, it really pains me to say this. But, as much as I cannot stand Florida, I truly think they are a team to be reckoned with. Sure, I could rant and rave about the one point win against my beloved Gamecocks, but it's now in the past. If you look back to the Ohio State-Michigan game and saw how Michigan lost by three points to Ohio State, and then fast forward to the beating they took from USC, you can see that they weren't really the team to beat. Sorry to say that Michigan fans, but you need to face facts...your team is good, but not that good. And also from that game, you can see that Ohio State didn't really do a superb job of putting them away. The SEC is and always will be the toughest conference! And, on top of that, Florida played the toughest schedule in the country this year. Good luck Ohio State fans, you're going to need it, and a lot of it. My prediction Florida wins big 35-21.
Go Gaters, but more importantly, Go Gamecocks!!! Steve Spurrier WILL rule the roost next year...pun intended!!!
wareagle524 said:
posted on January 8, 2007 5:22 PM — 63.162.187.94 — link — abuse?
Hey Portis,
I'll take a midget in a sweater vest that wins over a man with the name "Urban."
Urban is an adjective. It was also a popular name for ecclesiastic popes...I guess we can add SEC football coach to that list as well.
BTW: I went to grade school with his kid brother, Suburban Meyer...he was always a little further from the city than his big brother Urban.
PopsMich said:
posted on January 8, 2007 5:45 PM — 71.77.24.80 — link — abuse?
In the FINAL BCS vote (after tonight's game) what happens to the Coaches Poll for the following coaches that are no longer with their teams? Do they continue to vote?
UF over UM: Amato, Bunting, Coker, Kragthorpe, O'Brien, Petrino.
UM over UF: Kelly, Smith
I only mention how they voted for UM or UF to point out that I wish they had all gone before the next to last vote (if they no longer vote) :)
I presume all the AP voters are still employed where they were before.
clemson1981 said:
posted on January 8, 2007 5:52 PM — 74.226.219.7 — link — abuse?
MrGamecockFan:
extreamly good point, UF is a force to be reconed with and will be for years to come, so i agree on that but this will be a high scoring NC and i want the southern boys to win more than anybody, but osu is older and has a little more talent, but UF national champs 07-08So Cal USMC said:
posted on January 8, 2007 6:03 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
BallBagger & Tommy T
If Ohio State wins, the BCS will have "gotten away with it" again... NOT that its right.
If Florida wins that would Cap-Off one of the most Mediocre/Underwhelming seasons in College Football in recent memory (there'd be ZERO "Great" teams).
The way things are shaping up for next season, teams, players, etc, it looks like the jump in from 2006 to 2007 will be epic (as the 'drop' from 2005 to 2006 was)... dont let the "entertaining Bowl games" fool you.
posted on January 8, 2007 6:56 PM — link — abuse?
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Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 8, 2007 7:30 PM — 68.48.90.248 — link — abuse?
So Cal, #35
"If Ohio State wins, the BCS will have "gotten away with it" again."
How in the world would being in the Big 10 going undefeated and then winning the National Title game be...... letting the BCS get away with it?A playoff is not going to solve all the problems.
If anything is the solution, it is the "+1 idea"
Now there's an idea.
M GO BLUE said:
posted on January 8, 2007 7:37 PM — 216.46.209.195 — link — abuse?
Post #29 Mrgamecockfan,Why does it make you sick?
Yo buddy,your SEC is 0-2 vs. big ten this bowl season! If the SEC is the best,why don't they show up to the games? Or are they O.V.E.R.R.A.T.E.D.
Your best hope is to be 1-2 vs big ten.GOOOOOOOO BUCKS! CHOKE THE SILLY GATORS!
So Cal USMC said:
posted on January 8, 2007 7:44 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
Diggs,
I mean that Ohio State (if they win) will have been the only truely "deserving team" to be named National Champs... ergo, the BCS system could say they "got it right".
I prefer a 4-Team Playoff... the "plus-1" thing is NOT THAT, a lot of people confuse themselves with that. The "Plus-1" idea is having basically the SAME SYSTEM (1 vs 2) except for doing it After the Bowl games are played. That is NOT a 4-team Playoff - just so we're on common ground.
So Cal USMC said:
posted on January 8, 2007 7:47 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
The SEC is perpetually "over-rated" it seems like... but that doesnt mean they're not the Best Conference this year (despite 0-2 vs the Big TEN).
Even if Florida loses, the SEC will finish Rated as the No. 1 Conf this year.
M GO BLUE said:
posted on January 8, 2007 7:55 PM — 216.46.209.195 — link — abuse?
So Cal USMC,your right,but I have trouble actually beleiving they are much better than the Big Ten,simply because every year the Big Ten goes down south and beats em on their own turf.
And next year when Wisconsin get's to the Capital one bowl they will still be talking about how good and strong and superfast the SEC team is,and Wisconsin will "upset" them AGAIN! Well after it happens EVERY YEAR! it aint no upset!
Jeff said:
posted on January 8, 2007 8:06 PM — 75.69.23.33 — link — abuse?
Fox having this game bites. They are awful. Who is this Chris Rose? I want Keith Jackson.....and the Gameday crew. Fox has over produced this so badly. Emmitt and Eddie....enough with the glad handing and back patting. And Jimmy?
Fox.......you don't get it. Its about the game and the tradition.......not how much you blow it up. Terrible.
I hope the game is better then the idiots showing it to us.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 8:45 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Is either team going to bother attempting to cover kickoffs? Holy cow.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 8:53 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Stupid penalties:
OSU 2
Florida 0Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:00 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
If Florida keeps getting the short field, it's gonna be a looooong night for OSU. That's easy pickins for a team like the Gators.
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:04 PM — 68.48.90.248 — link — abuse?
The PAC-10 should give up on officiating any games. The PAC-10 should have to contract the refs from other Conferences. Ray Charles could have seen that........ Seriously what is so hard about looking at film?......Not Rocket Science at all.
posted on January 8, 2007 9:07 PM — link — abuse?
Florida seems to have an edge on speed, with the exception of Ginn (who just limped off).
What's the adage? Run at speed? Run the run, Bucks.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:11 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Wow. If this keeps up, Florida will win in a blowout. They're killing OSU in every phase right now.
posted on January 8, 2007 9:14 PM — link — abuse?
Ohio State has to get out of the cover 2.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:22 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
The first two drives where Florida got the ball on short fields each time will be the deciding factor in this game.
And Florida just scored. If the Buckeyes don't score a touchdown and come back with a defensive stop, I call game, set and match.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:25 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Stupid penalties:
OSU 2
Florida 1Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:29 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
TenTex:
IF OSU's defense shows up! LOL! They look very deer-in-the-headlights!
posted on January 8, 2007 9:32 PM — link — abuse?
FWIW, Florida is winning the all-important cheerleader matchup, too.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:33 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Kevin:
Man, are you stuck on cheerleaders right now!
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:36 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
That's 4 or 5 6 yard passes Florida has completed for 1st downs. Great scouting job.
posted on January 8, 2007 9:39 PM — link — abuse?
Oh yeah, I forgot. I'm not allowed to talk about the cheerleaders. ;)
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:39 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
LOL! You guys have a one-track mind. (OK, I agree, the wife went upstairs...)
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:44 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Ramblin' Gator:
LOL! I hear ya!
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:48 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
U.:
Not so fast, my friend. Florida has another short field. OSUs D has only held them once.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:53 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Randy:
No, Florida is doing a great job on him right now. Too much pressure.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:54 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Gohlstein's eyes almost bugged out of his head trying to catch that ball.
posted on January 8, 2007 9:54 PM — link — abuse?
Leak looks like the Heisman winner. tOSU absolutely has to start running the ball.
Hell, FSU's defense held Florida to 21. They *have* to get out of the zone defense. You have to man up and put a body on Florida's receivers.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 9:55 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Kevin:
I don't think, and apparently neither does the OSU coaching staff, that OSU has anybody that CAN man up on them.
posted on January 8, 2007 9:57 PM — link — abuse?
Anyone notice if there was a Dodge commercial during any of the BCS games? Geez.
butch said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:01 PM — 24.119.140.185 — link — abuse?
Ohio st. opening kickoff return should have been called back for holding. Florida's Reggie Nelson # 1 Safety was in the middle of the field and could have made the tackle if he was not being held. I know I wasen't the only one to see this.
posted on January 8, 2007 10:01 PM — link — abuse?
I don't care if your #1 or #119, you don't not go for it on 4th-and-1 inside your own 30 in the first half.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:02 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Wow. Short field again. Not a good idea.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:03 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Kevin:
Agreed. That was desperation talking. The unflappable Tressel is feeling the pressure.
posted on January 8, 2007 10:05 PM — link — abuse?
3rd and 4 and the Bucks DBs are nine yards off the Florida receivers. Why is Ohio State scared to death of Florida?
Regan said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:05 PM — 205.188.116.133 — link — abuse?
TBH, I like both teams, but I have to root for Florida, being the underdog; also, I like the SEC (ACC guy) and am really peeved at all the hype the Big Ten has gotten this year.
Ohio State hasn't seen anything like this all season - Florida is fighting tooth and nail for this game and really wants it. Ohio State seems like they were expecting to steamroll like they did all season. I hope they come around, or else this game might get ugly...
Best of luck to both teams, but for now, Go Gators...
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:06 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
And Florida's kicker has just matched his production for the entire year in one half.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:08 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Game, set and match, gentlemen. Smith tried to do too much.
posted on January 8, 2007 10:10 PM — link — abuse?
This is going from bad to worse for Ohio State. Florida is absolutely dominating in every way possible. If they can keep this up, no one can refute their national championship.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:13 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
OSU is killing themselves by giving Florida 4 short fields, but hat's off to Florida for forcing that turnover. Great job by Florida scouting and implementing their game plan.
Randy said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:14 PM — 74.93.5.150 — link — abuse?
I have only seen highlights of OSU football and they’ve looked unbeatable. They seem to be sleep walking tonight. I have heard all season how Troy Smith works miracles in the fourth quarter. Tonight he will need one of Biblical proportions.
illini dave said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:17 PM — 68.75.182.248 — link — abuse?
Can we all agree that the Big 10 pretty much sucks this year. I bought in to all the hype about Ohio State and Michigan being 1 and 2 in the country. What a joke. These guys are a disgrace. I am sick and tired of the Big 10 excuses. We haven't played for soooo long; we had to travel; wa wa wa! These guys don't belong on the same field.
posted on January 8, 2007 10:17 PM — link — abuse?
The best highlight for Ohio State so far is the double cursive Ohio by the band. Geez.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:28 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Actually, I think this has been a great "situational" football game. You just can't give a team like Florida a short field, and you cannot commit stupid penalties and commit turnovers to help the other team out. If Tressel punts the football on the 4th and 1, it may be a very different game right now. Woulda, coulda, shoulda, I know, but that was a turnover, and a very dumb one, in my opinion.
Florida is looking like the team that's well prepared and focused, and they're definitely winning the trench war when they're on defense. Smith has no time and nowhere to go.
The first series Florida had set the tone for them. They're executing perfectly.
tOSUIsntRighteous said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:32 PM — 69.172.248.251 — link — abuse?
Hmmm....didnt OSU run up like 650 yards versus Notre Dame last year? And...with two minutes to go (and all that speed, too) led by a mere touch...and ND had the ball?
Now, it's Urban's boys ...with speed .. and a finally healthy D-line. Tress ain't exactly looking like a genius now, is he?
Just be glad it's UF and NOT ... USC.
pi said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:33 PM — 74.229.54.141 — link — abuse?
Unnnnnbelievable. Go on 4 down at your own 29. That last 10 points was a coaching error.
Anyone see the talking jock straps giggling and quipping
while the national anthem was playing. I think FOX may need a producer as bad as OSU needs a running game.
posted on January 8, 2007 10:34 PM — link — abuse?
@UofSC - Wasn't that Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy? I'm just saying.
I never would have thought the bands would be more interesting than the game. Hell, I might even check out Diggsie's Myspace in the 3rd Q.
C-DOGG said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:36 PM — 76.188.148.131 — link — abuse?
Now that I've eaten my slice of humble pie.....Does anyone out there feel that somehow LSU should have been in this game? I know it was impossible, but still. The SEC is too dominant right now. LSU will probably finish 2nd in the polls over USC, Louisville and Wisconsin.
posted on January 8, 2007 10:41 PM — link — abuse?
No way LSU finishes that high, in my opinion. Yeah, the stomped a mudhole in an overrated ND, but... still don't see the Tigers getting that high.
TenTex said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:43 PM — 69.245.15.21 — link — abuse?
C-Dogg, I look at it this way. If we had an 8 team playoff LSU would have been the team to beat. FSU did beat LSU. JaMarcus Russell has a nak for making bad decisions and I think he had like 3 or 4 turnovers in the game. So no, with this BCS format Florida deserves to be there. Now get this, LSU did not even win their Division, they finished behind Arkansas and Auburn. Now that's a tough conference. And as far JaMarcus Russell, he peaked at the right or wrong time depending on how you look at it.
Swamp_Jock said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:43 PM — 152.163.100.196 — link — abuse?
wow..maybe OSU should let the band play the game they seem to have it together..total UF dominance finally i wont have to listen to my big ten buds talk smack... I guess UF's kicker spent all that time off kicking FG's 24-7...OSU is dead in the water in all aspects of the game...and to think people were saying UF didnt deserve to be in the NC game HA! All UF has to do now is take care of the ball and work that clock some more the diff in TOP is appauling
posted on January 8, 2007 10:47 PM — link — abuse?
I'm going to take you on your word. I don't know what "In the Groove" sounds like. Apparently you have a band background or WAY too much free time. ;)
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:50 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
I will say one thing. Smith may not be playing well, but he's not the only guy on the field for OSU, and Florida is doing something he's not used to...they're blanketing the OSU receivers. Ginn getting hurt doesn't help OSU either.
posted on January 8, 2007 10:52 PM — link — abuse?
I don't know about you, but I'm looking forward to another exciting Dodge commercial.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:53 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Jim(#147):
Maybe not on the scoreboard (holding them to 3). But that's not a Tressel's style. He was desperate and his team knew it. Doesn't help the Defense's confidence, either.
Tom Blogical said:
posted on January 8, 2007 10:59 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
Regan (#163):
Well, I'm with you on the Heisman Hype. If OSU is not a #1 team, no way Smith wins.
Man, Ginn on crutches is huge. Florida is free to double up on Gonzalez.
This comment brought to you by Dodge. Ram Tough!
posted on January 8, 2007 11:01 PM — link — abuse?
#172 - Yeah, what's with the elephant in the DLP commercials?
Randy said:
posted on January 8, 2007 11:04 PM — 74.93.5.150 — link —
TrojanHorse said:
posted on January 8, 2007 11:38 AM — 132.228.195.206 — link — abuse?What happens, I hope UF doesn't have to kick a FG