October 8, 2007
An early projection of the BCS rankings
The first Bowl Championship Series rankings will be released this Sunday, October 14th, but -- barring any substantial changes at the top of the polls (and that's a big if in this crazy season -- we already have our first look at the early BCS rankings, courtesy of the always pretty damn accurate BCS Guru.
BCS Guru compiles the human polls and most of the computer polls that comprise the official BCS standings. (Two computer polls are not published until after October 14th.) While the numbers at BCS Guru are only an unofficial projection, the BCS Guru has been surprisingly accurate over the last few seasons.
According to BCS Guru, LSU is the consensus number one by a comfortable margin. Ohio State, by virtue of some losses at the top of the polls and their win over previously undefeated Purdue, is #2 in the BCS Guru standings, due to strong support among the computer polls. Cal is ranked at #3, due in large part to their weaker computer poll numbers relative to the Buckeyes. There is a significant fall-off in the rankings after Cal, with Boston College getting the #4 spot and South Florida coming in at #5.
The ACC, Big East, SEC and Pac10 all have two teams ranked in the top ten, while the Big XII and Big 10 only have one team projected in the top ten. Meanwhile, pre-season hopefuls Oklahoma, Florida, and USC all find themselves ranked outside the top ten.
The biggest mover up the rankings appears to be Illinois, who were previously unranked. The Illini check in at #15, thanks to an their record and a stronger computer poll average.
One surprising note for fans of the mid-major conferences, Hawaii is the mid-major ranked in the top twenty-five. The Rainbows come in at #19 in the BCS Guru composite, which is actually DOWN one spot from last week's standings. In other words, an undefeated Hawaii team still needs considerable help from teams ranked ahead in the standings, as well as strong showings from their past opponents.
Boise State, the only other non-BCS conference team in the standings, is ranked #34.
For a complete rundown, check out the early BCS rankings at BCS Guru.
Comments:
Tampa Hurricane
posted on October 8, 2007 12:49 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
said:
gatorhippy, quoting Kevin from this post "The Illini check in at #15, thanks to an undefeated record and a stronger computer poll average." This doesn't make it seem like they are referring to the Big-10 record. I'm just wondering why on multiple posts people keep referring to U of I as having an undefeated record. Going by that wording that Kevin uses can I then have the open statement that "Michigan is undefeated" instead of saying "Michigan is undefeated in conference play". Sounds like there are some major F*** ups on the wording!
Tampa Hurricane
posted on October 8, 2007 12:52 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
Also going by that logic, can Rice fans (are there any) call themselves undefeated? (1-0 in conference 1-4 overall) You either need to state that they are undefeated in conference play, or just leave the undefeated out.
rebel1222 said:
posted on October 8, 2007 5:04 PM — 74.7.83.209 — link — abuse?
Can someone please tell me how Ohio state can be ranked #2 with their cream puff schedule? Now with the inclusion of Illinios into the rankings they only play three ranked teams! Three. They should no way be ranked above Cal. Hell, even two loss Florida should be ranked higher than Ohio State. God, I wish they played in the SEC. Florida plays six ranked teams. Cal plays four ranked teams.
Lennie Collins
posted on October 8, 2007 5:11 PM — 67.67.223.182 — link — abuse? said:
Hey Rebel1222...since strength of schedule does not matter or is not factored in the voting any longer why should teams schedule "tough" opponents? They get penalized for playing "great teams and the teams that don't schedule or play them get praises! I personally would like that factored into voting!
Tom Blogical
posted on October 8, 2007 5:57 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
rebel1222 (#7):
Great question. I fully expected OSU to be ranked much lower in the BCS, if this prediction is true, I don't understand it either. Like 6th or lower because of the SOS so far.
There are 3 OOC teams I wasn't happy to see on their schedule, partially for the fact of SOS and partially for the flak they would get for it. The other 9 teams are out of their control on how strong the opponents are. One Pac 10 and 8 Big 10 teams.
OTOH, in fairness to OSU, let's take a look at LSU's schedule. They have Middle Tennessee State, Tulane, and Louisiana Tech. Not very strong OOC scheduling there.
Another thing. The Big 10 was 2-1 against the SEC in the bowl games last year; despite having a losing record in the bowl games overall. The argument that the SEC resides somewhere above the NCAA and just below the NFL doesn't carry much water with me.
The SEC does have talent, that's true. But trust me, I haven't seen a team from the SEC yet that isn't beatable. Matter of fact, every team I've seen this year is beatable by anyone else in the top 25. That's been proven.
FromVT said:
posted on October 8, 2007 7:05 PM — 76.31.204.151 — link — abuse?
OSU schedule does not compare to LSU. They both have 4 OOC games, at least LSU put Virginia Tech on there, and they are ranked higher than any team OSU has on their entire schedule. LSU is beatable by Florida, but I would take Florida minus points against just about any other team in the nation. Give LSU, Florida, and maybe even Missouri the same schedule that OSU has had so far and what would the results be? Give OSU one of the others and what would it be? I honestly don' know, but OSU has not had to play 3 teams in the top 13, let alone 1.
Well it will all wash out in the end, and hopefully there will be at least 3 undefeated teams, or 4-5 1 loss teams bidding for the championship game. Without a playoff there is no way to tell who really belongs in that last game.
Tom Blogical
posted on October 8, 2007 7:13 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
FromVT (#11):
I'm not comparing schedules game by game. My point is, in general no school has a strong OOC schedule and every school has to play their conference schedule. I'm sure Florida, even with having 2 losses, would be favored in a matchup with OSU right now, but I'd like OSU's chances with the way their defense is playing. Plus, they have a chip on their shoulder as a result of last year's NC game. Heck, I'd like OSU's chances with any team in the SEC, or anybody else in the nation for that matter, SOS issues or not.
I wholeheartedly, unquestionably agree with your last paragraph and last sentence.
Tom Blogical
posted on October 8, 2007 9:59 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
Absolutely. As long as Ohio State is in, I'm watching.
Tom Blogical
posted on October 8, 2007 10:17 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
hrposon (#13):
OK, seriously now. What I'm getting from your comment is it doesn't matter what talent is on the field, it's the names of the schools involved that matter. You sound like a pollster.
So a battle between two 2 loss "name" schools in the NC game would be better for you than 2 undefeated schools from BCS conferences? Is that about right?
Zac said:
posted on October 8, 2007 10:29 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Hey, it's OK with me if OSU is ranked #2. With the exception of the poor showing at home against Akron, they have played well. So, let em go undefeated; let em play LSU, and let the same thing happen to em this year as with last year. Maybe somebody on the BCS team will have learned the 3rd time around. Then again, maybe pigs will learn to fly.
Tom Blogical
posted on October 8, 2007 11:13 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
Zac (#16):
Is your middle name Carnac? If so, what lottery numbers should I play this week? ;-)
I think OSU would match up pretty favorably with LSU right now. And like I said, with OSU having that chip on their shoulder, I'd love their chances.
hrposon said:
posted on October 9, 2007 1:04 AM — 98.200.123.115 — link — abuse?
@15 Tom - I'm the biggest proponent of a playoff of conference champions. I don't like a bunch of voters getting their info from biased ESPN talking heads. No one can see all the teams and vote intelligently.
I don't think a team that schedules a D1-AA school should be in the running for the BCS championship voting.
Last year we heard how Michigan and Ohio State should play a rematch in the for the MNC. As it worked out OSU got killed by a one loss Florida and a flawed USC destroyed Michigan.If a playoff is implemented, the Big 10, like Notre Dame, probably will never win another football championship.
Geauxtigers0107 said:
posted on October 9, 2007 2:09 AM — 72.150.22.98 — link — abuse?
@ #18
Some stats to ponder:
OSU LSU
Offenses:
passing 73rd 77th
(211 ypg) (204 ypg)
rushing 19th 12th
(204 ypg) (227 ypg)
scoring 32nd 16th
(33pts pg) (38pts pg)Defenses:
passing 10th 3rd
(163 ypg) (139 ypg)
rushing 2nd 4th
(46 ypg) (58 ypg)
total
defense 2nd 1stWhile all those stats appear to be a wash, let's look at who each team has amassed those numbers against:
Ohio St has played and beaten: Youngstown St (unranked), Akron (unranked), Washington (unranked), Northwestern (unranked), Minnesota (unranked) and Purdue (unranked).
LSU has played and beaten: Miss St (unranked), Virginia Tech (then #5, curr #12), Middle Tenn St (unranked), South Carolina (then #15, curr #7), Tulane (unranked) and Florida (then #9, curr #13).
It's obvious to see where I'm headed with this. While the stats appear to be a wash and on paper it looks like an even match up if they played head to head, Ohio St has played (nor will they play) no where near the caliber of teams that LSU will. Which is exactly why Florida completely throttled them in last years NC game. Don't get me wrong, I think Ohio St has a very good football team....very good. But when you compare them to LSU, it really is no comparison at all.
Just my 2(commom)sense
Geaux SEC
Geaux TigersTom Blogical
posted on October 9, 2007 8:41 AM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
"If a playoff is implemented, the Big 10, like Notre Dame, probably will never win another football championship."
"But when you compare them to LSU, it really is no comparison at all."
on paper.....very well
in reality......they don't"Oh, brother. Look, I've seen both teams play, and I know the schedules. As a matter of fact, I've watched a lot of games this year. And, we've all seen what's happened to the "Top 25" this year. If you think somehow there's a vast difference between any school out there this year, then I've got some land to sell you somewhere.
If any of the top tier Big 10 teams played the top tier SEC teams right now, the games would be nail biters.
Like I said, the idea that the SEC resides somewhere above the NCAA and below the NFL is a bunch of garbage. But you keep on believing that if it makes you feel better.
Tom Blogical
posted on October 9, 2007 9:26 AM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
Tampa Hurricane (#23):
LOL! True...true...
Actually, I thought they were being nice to me and tOSU/The Big 10. At least they have good reasoning behind their misguided arguments. (:-D)
And, you can't be too upset with people for being good fans and for supporting their conference.
gatorstud said:
posted on October 9, 2007 9:33 AM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
tom blogical....hows it goin..how bout them buckeyes....lol...ive been rootin for em all year...lol....ok..ok...i am now officially on the osu bandwagon....i watched the replay of the game and osu looked good...i really thought this was going to be a tougher game for osu....i won't doubt them again...well, at least until the michigan game...lol
go gaotrs...and hokies
Tom Blogical
posted on October 9, 2007 9:37 AM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
I have to say that I don't know that tOSU is a top 3 team, because at the beginning of the season, I wouldn't have had them in the top 15. Plus, their OOC schedule stinks, and the 3 Big 10 teams and 1 Pac 10 team they've played so far aren't that great either. I do think they're top 10 material after seeing them play.
Hearing a lot of SEC fans talk, or reading their comments, you'd think the Top 25 is made up of the 1st 12 being all SEC, then the rest of the country.
Honestly, I'd like to see the Big 10 and the SEC try to schedule more OOC games. I think that would be good for CFB.
Tom Blogical
posted on October 9, 2007 9:43 AM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
gatorstud (#25):
Hey brother! Glad to see you're on the bandwagon now! I thought Florida was going to pull it off--they came damn close. Wouldn't you know it, because they had the entire Buckeye Nation cheering them on. Ah well, whatcha gonna do? I guess we jinxed it for you.
Yeah, I thought OSU's D looked really good, but the offense needs some work. Fixable problems, but they have some of the injury bug at running back right now, too.
Let me know where I should send you your Block O hat! (:-D)
FromVT said:
posted on October 9, 2007 10:46 AM — 76.31.204.151 — link — abuse?
Sorry, my post was for #17 who said that. Anyone can say that about any two teams.
I think that when it comes down the bowl games being played several weeks after the regular season, anything can happen, and recent years seemed to have proved that. A playoff of some sort at least gets teams back into regular play and game time speed before playing for a national championship. Unfortunately we may never see it.
As far #1, I think that LSU is the best team right now. What I find interesting is that if you look at the coaches poll week by week you see this...
Week 1. OSU 10
Week 2. OSU 11
Week 3. OSU 10
Week 4. OSU 9
Week 5. OSU 8
Week 6. OSU 4 (1 1st place vote)
Week 7. OSU 3 (2 1st place votes)So after beating Minnesota 30-7 they got a vote? Then another for beating Purdue a week later. I don't get that. I am not saying they don't deserve to be where they are ranked, they do, but how do they get #1 votes after that? I see no way that the coaches poll is not biased, isn't that why Tressell didn't vote last year in the last poll at all? To not show bias either way.
How can anyone rightfully vote on who is ranked from 1-25 without watching all the teams play? That goes for the AP poll as well. It is still beyond me that Florida was ranked 3rd, then after winning the SEC Championship last year vaulted to 2nd. If that is how the pollsters felt they should have ranked Florida 2nd before the game, if they lose then Michigan would be in the Championship game. So in this case Florida benefited from that game, normally those kinds of games can only hurt the higher ranked team in Conference Championships (they are supposed to win).
Not much more that I can say, I just hate the current system. Oh, and what bowl game will Notre Dame be in this year? They travel well, you know some schlep bowl committee will want them regardless of schedule. I looked at this years bowl schedule, why do they have to put things like this?
"Dec. 31 Sun Bowl at El Paso, Texas, Big 12, Big East or Note Dame vs. Pac-10"
"Gator Bowl at Jacksonville, Fla., ACC vs. Big 12, Big East or Notre Dame"
...
Stupid Bowl contractsGeauxtigers0107 said:
posted on October 9, 2007 10:48 AM — 72.150.22.98 — link — abuse?
Tomblogical and Tampa-Cane
"If any of the top tier Big 10 teams played the top tier SEC teams right now, the games would be nail biters."
That's your opinion Tom and I respect that but it is just that.....an opinion. I only stated facts. I put the numbers up to justify the point I was trying to make because I knew the return argument would be exactly what you see in quotes above. Obviously your'e an Ohio St fan and I've offended you but that never was my intention.
Are we (the SEC)above the NCAA and just below the NFL?
That may be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Again, if that's your opinion of how the SEC thinks of itself, you are most certainly entitled to it but I, for one, have the SEC as just another conference in college football. Do I think the SEC is an overall stronger conference? Yeah, I do. That's an old argument that'll never go away though. But with all the experts (whoever that may be) saying the same thing, what are we to believe then? Does it go by how many teams are currently ranked or bowl records from last year or the year before or 10 yrs ago? Man I don't know and I don't care. I just know that the SEC is pretty damn tough to play in and I'm glad we're still undefeated.Now the initial question that was raised was how does OSU compare favorably vs LSU. All I did was supply facts to back up my ideas. Again, if that somehow offended you, I'm sorry. That was never the intent....to slam another team. I wasn't disrespectful with my comments nor will I ever be unless it starts from the other side because our first loss could easily happen in the next two or three weeks. But in all honesty, these two teams match up almost exactly like the 2006 Buckeye's and Gators.
"Tom, you should know better than trying to talk common sense into an SEC fan"
???????WTF???????? LOL So now all SEC fans have no common sense......lmao. That's a mighty big glass of Hater-Aid you drinking there Hurricane. Is it possible that maybe you still have that 41-3 loss still stuck in your throat?
Keep your fingers crossed fellas. Maybe LSU won't go undefeated but maybe they will. All I know is that if I see a damn good football team, I man enough to say so and OSU is one of 'em.
I just don't think they could beat the Tigers.
They would kill the Hurricanes though.Geaux SEC
Geaux TigersTom Blogical
posted on October 9, 2007 12:10 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
"Obviously your'e an Ohio St fan and I've offended you but that never was my intention."
You'll have to re-read my comments. I'm not offended. I said above that I said you had good reasoning behind your arguments, even though I think they're misguided. ;-)
"Are we (the SEC)above the NCAA and just below the NFL?
That may be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Again, if that's your opinion of how the SEC thinks of itself, you are most certainly entitled to it but I, for one, have the SEC as just another conference in college football."Yes, it is the dumbest thing I've ever heard, too. I'm glad you don't think that way, but this guy does. Sorry about having to give you the cached version of that forum, but that's all that was available.
"I wasn't disrespectful with my comments nor will I ever be unless it starts from the other side because our first loss could easily happen in the next two or three weeks."
Agreed, you weren't disrespectful. I did say that.
"But in all honesty, these two teams match up almost exactly like the 2006 Buckeye's and Gators."
This isn't math. Transitive powers don't apply. You're comparing apples to oranges. Maybe apples to broccoli, in this case.
Now about the facts--I'm not into comparing apples to oranges. I'm into watching teams play. The defense seems solid, but the offense is something else entirely. Matt Flynn is shaky and their field goal kicking is a joke. How many times did Flynn throw behind his receivers? That interception was ugly. Where the hell was Doucet? In my opinion, after watching the games, the OSU defense shuts down their offense. The OSU offense would have trouble with LSU's defense, because OSU's offense has a problem with consistency right now, and as I said, LSU's defense is solid. I don't think they struggle as much as LSU's offense, though.
IMO, Florida found a way to lose that game. On a neutral field or at the Swamp--LSU loses.
"Keep your fingers crossed fellas. Maybe LSU won't go undefeated but maybe they will. All I know is that if I see a damn good football team, I man enough to say so and OSU is one of 'em."
Again--refer to my comments--I didn't accuse you of not giving any credit to OSU, nor am I dissing LSU. I think LSU is worthy of their #1 status, since they've earned it thusfar. Given I think OSU is a top 10 team, I think they match up very well with them. Matter of fact, I don't think LSU beats OSU, but that's just my opinion as well.
I'll keep my fingers crossed that LSU goes undefeated, that OSU wins out, and Cal loses. You might want to do the same, given your opinion.
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on October 9, 2007 12:51 PM — 138.163.0.43 — link — abuse?
GeauxTigers,
Good post #20. Not necessarily in the stats column, but when you just simply compare the caliber of teams played and add in the domination factor, it's past common sense that OSU would get waxed again in the NC. I don't care if they face a three loss SEC team (like FLA may end up with). A three loss FLA team this year would once again embarrass an undefeated OSU. This is so beyond common sense it's just flat out in your face obvious. I think it would probably be even worste since they don't have their poster boy Troy Smith anymore. Do they have a chance? If they can put on cleats then I guess they do, but I would probably put ILLINOIS ahead of them.
Sorry Tom, I'm not trying to knock your team, this is just my opinion. Just like I haven't been sold on USC, OU, MICH, Louisville, and TEX all year, I'm not sold on OSU, yet.BTW: I think the LSU Tigers would probably beat the New Orlean Saints right now!LOL!Talk about SEC caliber football, actually OSU might be able to beat them too.
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on October 9, 2007 12:53 PM — 138.163.0.43 — link — abuse?
GeauxTigers,
Good post #20. Not necessarily in the stats column, but when you just simply compare the caliber of teams played and add in the domination factor, it's past common sense that OSU would get waxed again in the NC. I don't care if they face a three loss SEC team (like FLA may end up with). A three loss FLA team this year would once again embarrass an undefeated OSU. This is so beyond common sense it's just flat out in your face obvious. I think it would probably be even worste since they don't have their poster boy Troy Smith anymore. Do they have a chance? If they can put on cleats then I guess they do, but I would probably put ILLINOIS ahead of them.
Sorry Tom, I'm not trying to knock your team, this is just my opinion. Just like I haven't been sold on USC, OU, MICH, Louisville, and TEX all year, I'm not sold on OSU, yet.BTW: I think the LSU Tigers would probably beat the New Orlean Saints right now!LOL!Talk about SEC caliber football, actually OSU might be able to beat them too.
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on October 9, 2007 12:54 PM — 138.163.0.43 — link — abuse?
GeauxTigers,
Good post #20. Not necessarily in the stats column, but when you just simply compare the caliber of teams played and add in the domination factor, it's past common sense that OSU would get waxed again in the NC. I don't care if they face a three loss SEC team (like FLA may end up with). A three loss FLA team this year would once again embarrass an undefeated OSU. This is so beyond common sense it's just flat out in your face obvious. I think it would probably be even worste since they don't have their poster boy Troy Smith anymore. Do they have a chance? If they can put on cleats then I guess they do, but I would probably put ILLINOIS ahead of them.
Sorry Tom, I'm not trying to knock your team, this is just my opinion. Just like I haven't been sold on USC, OU, MICH, Louisville, and TEX all year, I'm not sold on OSU, yet.BTW: I think the LSU Tigers would probably beat the New Orlean Saints right now!LOL!Talk about SEC caliber football, actually OSU might be able to beat them too.
Tampa Hurricane
posted on October 9, 2007 1:01 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
Geauxtigers0107, my earlier post has nothing to do with LSU beating Miami in the bowl game. I hear all the time from SEC fans that year in and year out the SEC is always the best conference in college football. That is a pile of crap. As I always tell the less informed (or less intelligent) SEC fans that believe this, every year there is a different conference that is the strongest that particular year.
Some proof for this:
Taking the final AP polls for the past 5 years, the breakdown of the top 5 is:
2006
SEC - 2
Big 10 - 1
Pac 10 - 1
Mid major - 12005
Big 10 - 2
Big 12 - 1
Pac 10 - 1
Big East - 12004
Big 12 - 2
Pac 10 - 1
SEC - 1
Mid major - 12003
Pac 10 - 1
SEC - 1
Big 12 - 1
Big 10 - 1
Big East - 1 (team switched to ACC)2002
Big 10 - 1
Big East - 1 (team switched to ACC)
SEC - 1
Pac 10 - 1
Big 12 - 1As you can see from the breakdown of the top 5, the best conference in the nation changes every year.
If the SEC is the best conference in the nation every year, then why were they not able to place a team in the top 5 in 2005?
Tom Blogical
posted on October 9, 2007 1:03 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
Eye of the Tiger (#34):
"...but I would probably put ILLINOIS ahead of them."
Yeah, I've heard that from a lot of people. We'll see how good they really are when they come into Columbus.
"BTW: I think the LSU Tigers would probably beat the New Orlean Saints right now!LOL!Talk about SEC caliber football, actually OSU might be able to beat them too."
LOL! Yeah, too bad the Saints don't play the Bengals this year. That would make them feel a lot better.
Tom Blogical
posted on October 9, 2007 2:26 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
Eye of the Tiger (#38):
Who's your biggest worry coming up? Kentucky, Auburn, Alabama or Arkansas? I'd have to think I'd be sweating the Auburn game the most if I was an LSU fan, since that's on the road and I don't think much of Kentucky after their last game (sorry Wildcat fans).
Although Penn State is not the strongest opponent for OSU left, it's a night game in Happy Valley. I fear the White Out over there at night. Then Michigan would be the next toughest game, then the Illini, Wisconsin and MSU games in that order.
Tom Blogical
posted on October 9, 2007 2:54 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
OU-Ron (#40):
That's a good point, but I think LSU learned their lesson against Tulane. They'll be bringing their A game for Louisiana Tech.
Tom Blogical
posted on October 9, 2007 3:17 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
OU-Ron (#42):
You're right, you never know, especially this year. I always give the top-tier the benefit of the doubt though, and Miles is a great coach. Don't think for a minute he won't remind the team about Tulane, USC, and the school he'll be working for next year: Michigan.
But like you're implying here--that's why we play the games.
Exit question: if you think LSU should worry about La. Tech, should Oklahoma worry about Iowa State or Baylor?
Spartacus
posted on October 9, 2007 5:14 PM — 71.103.220.239 — link — abuse? said:
I dont' agree with any of that. BCS polls figure in everything - including the strength of the schedule. Other than the silly idea of "you lost a game" - this is how the rankings of just about all computer models would look like right now.
1. LSU
2. Oklahoma
3. Ohio State
4. West Virginia
5. Florida
6. USC
7. Arizona State
8. California
9. Oregon
10. CincinnatiLSU is on top with a rating of around 97.00 ppg. Cincinnati is 10th at about 88.00 ppg. SOS still favors USC if they can get by Oregon, Cal and Arizona State. Those three games alone will vault them past the rest. USC "played down" to about a 78.00 in losing to Stanford. Keep in mind that Wisconsin, Nebraska, BYU, Hawaii, Michigan, Rutgers, Alabama and Texas A&M (just to name a few) - all play at around a 78.00 every game.
The sad part of all this is that Oklahoma is probably the 2nd best team in the country and will miss out if Ohio State of USC wins out - because they just don't play as tough a schedule as USC does and Ohio State might be unbeaten. Either way, BCS means nothing right now, and any of these top teams (excluding Florida with two losses) could end up in the dance. There is no question that LSU is really taking care of business right now - and shows championship form to come back and beat Florida.
Tommie Trojan
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on October 9, 2007 6:08 PM — 138.163.0.41 — link — abuse?
Tom #39,
I'm worried about all of them. You can add Ole Miss on that list too. I was at the game last year in Tiger Stadium when JaMarcus Russell gave us a tie ball game in the last minute to get us into overtime. This year it's in Mississippi, not to mention the fight they gave FLA.
All of those teams you mentioned to LSU are threats w/ Auburn trying to prove they deserve credit in the west, Saban and the Tide wanting to throw a wrench in Tigers year, Kentucky with hands down the best QB in the SEC, Arkansas in the battle for the big boot. This season is far from finished. Hopefully LSU doesn't get too cocky and they remain focused.Geauxtigers0107 said:
posted on October 9, 2007 8:05 PM — 72.150.22.98 — link — abuse?
@#30 Tom Blogical:
"Matt Flynn is shaky and their field goal kicking is a joke. How many times did Flynn throw behind his receivers? That interception was ugly. Where the hell was Doucet? In my opinion, after watching the games, the OSU defense shuts down their offense. The OSU offense would have trouble with LSU's defense, because OSU's offense has a problem with consistency right now, and as I said, LSU's defense is solid. I don't think they struggle as much as LSU's offense, though."Good points Tom. I'll address what I can. Flynn has definitely been shaky at times. I wish I knew what was causing this. Maybe it's the fact that this is his first year starting. From not starting (except for the Miami game) to being the leader of the #1 team in the country has to be alot of pressure on him. Not to mention the fact that the second string QB (Ryan Perilloux) is completing a much higher percentage of his passes and running the ball better. So maybe he's pressing some and trying to be perfect. He LOOKS like he's very confident and at ease but inside may be a different story.
In regards to Early Doucet, he's got an abdominal injury (though they keep saying it's his groin). This is a major setback for the offense as he's the leader of a very young pack of recievers. Terrance Tolliver will emerge as the star of the pack at 6ft 4 and 4.4 speed but it will take time to gel with both QB's. Our offense is def'ly struggling right now and playing against a good defense like OSU's would be trouble. But V-Tech's defense was #1 in the country the last two years in a row and we managed to hang 41 on them, along with 297 yrds rushing. By the same token, our offense hasn't played to that level since that game. You are correct on the kicking game also. Colt David has been shaky at best though this is out of character for him. Hopefully he figures out his probs and starts splitting the uprights soon.
To address the comments of "this guy" link in your post: unfortunately, we all have fans who, after a few wins, claim to be able to beat the New England Patriots in New England no less. All I can say is don't lump all Tiger and SEC fans in the same boat when it comes to comments like this. He is entitled to his opinion (and his passion is understandable) but if your'e a realist (like I am) and know what's still left on the schedule, you don't go off blowing your horn at least until the season is over and you've ran the table.
The toughest game the Tigers have to play is the next one...IMO. And if they win that one, then the toughest game becomes....the next one. Anyone of these SEC teams remaining can beat us. Auburn is playing the best right now but, to correct you, they come to Death Valley this year. So that should help. The year LSU won the BCS championship, all of the tough games were in Baton Rouge....the same way it is this year. Hopefully the scenario plays out the same.
For now I guess we'll agree to disagree on the head to head matchup and maybe we'll meet up in the end to settle it. I still would love a piece of USC though...lol. They've got some problems to iron out and tough games ahead (as Tommy mentioned) but for some reason, it just feels like unsettled business with them. They've put together an incredible run over the last 5 or 6 years but the QB play has gotten them in trouble (and cost them a loss) this year.
That is what makes College Football the best sport in the land.
Geaux SEC
Geaux Tigers
Geauxtigers0107 said:
posted on October 9, 2007 8:10 PM — 72.150.22.98 — link — abuse?
@#30 Tom Blogical:
"Matt Flynn is shaky and their field goal kicking is a joke. How many times did Flynn throw behind his receivers? That interception was ugly. Where the hell was Doucet? In my opinion, after watching the games, the OSU defense shuts down their offense. The OSU offense would have trouble with LSU's defense, because OSU's offense has a problem with consistency right now, and as I said, LSU's defense is solid. I don't think they struggle as much as LSU's offense, though."Good points Tom. I'll address what I can. Flynn has definitely been shaky at times. I wish I knew what was causing this. Maybe it's the fact that this is his first year starting. From not starting (except for the Miami game) to being the leader of the #1 team in the country has to be alot of pressure on him. Not to mention the fact that the second string QB (Ryan Perilloux) is completing a much higher percentage of his passes and running the ball better. So maybe he's pressing some and trying to be perfect. He LOOKS like he's very confident and at ease but inside may be a different story.
In regards to Early Doucet, he's got an abdominal injury (though they keep saying it's his groin). This is a major setback for the offense as he's the leader of a very young pack of recievers. Terrance Tolliver will emerge as the star of the pack at 6ft 4 and 4.4 speed but it will take time to gel with both QB's. Our offense is def'ly struggling right now and playing against a good defense like OSU's would be trouble. But V-Tech's defense was #1 in the country the last two years in a row and we managed to hang 41 on them, along with 297 yrds rushing. By the same token, our offense hasn't played to that level since that game. You are correct on the kicking game also. Colt David has been shaky at best though this is out of character for him. Hopefully he figures out his probs and starts splitting the uprights soon.
To address the comments of "this guy" link in your post: unfortunately, we all have fans who, after a few wins, claim to be able to beat the New England Patriots in New England no less. All I can say is don't lump all Tiger and SEC fans in the same boat when it comes to comments like this. He is entitled to his opinion (and his passion is understandable) but if your'e a realist (like I am) and know what's still left on the schedule, you don't go off blowing your horn at least until the season is over and you've ran the table.
The toughest game the Tigers have to play is the next one...IMO. And if they win that one, then the toughest game becomes....the next one. Anyone of these SEC teams remaining can beat us. Auburn is playing the best right now but, to correct you, they come to Death Valley this year. So that should help. The year LSU won the BCS championship, all of the tough games were in Baton Rouge....the same way it is this year. Hopefully the scenario plays out the same.
For now I guess we'll agree to disagree on the head to head matchup and maybe we'll meet up in the end to settle it. I still would love a piece of USC though...lol. They've got some problems to iron out and tough games ahead (as Tommy mentioned) but for some reason, it just feels like unsettled business with them. They've put together an incredible run over the last 5 or 6 years but the QB play has gotten them in trouble (and cost them a loss) this year.
That is what makes College Football the best sport in the land however.
@Eye of the Tiger:
"BTW: I think the LSU Tigers would probably beat the New Orlean Saints right now!LOL!Talk about SEC caliber football, actually OSU might be able to beat them too."LMAO....unfortunately....your'e right :)
Geaux SEC
Geaux Tigers
Autigerman said:
posted on October 9, 2007 10:01 PM — 72.205.222.229 — link — abuse?
Seems the Sec may be its own worst enemy again this year.
Looks like you may have to go undefeated to get in championship game.However, if LSU does run the table they will be hard to beat. I just dont think they will be able to do it.
Tom Blogical
posted on October 10, 2007 12:11 AM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
Geauxtigers0107 (#48):
Well said. Explains a lot. And I don't know how I misread that Auburn is on the road for LSU. It's actually Alabama that's on the road. Got 'em mixed up somehow.
Wow. I'm sure I just ticked off 2 sets of fan bases there. Not on purpose though. ;-)
buzzdroid
posted on October 15, 2007 1:08 PM — 70.184.171.77 — link — abuse? said:
Buckeyes - we just released an Ohio State blog theme for Wordpress. Hope you can enjoy it.
Tampa Hurricane
said:
posted on October 8, 2007 11:20 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?Can someone please explain to me why on multiple posts, Illinois keeps being mentioned as having an undefeated record. Is there a reason that the first game against Missouri that they lost doesn't keep them from being mentioned as undefeated?
Kevin, How exactly can a team that has a record of 5-1 be undefeated?