December 2, 2007
2007-2008 College Football Bowl Schedule
The complete college football bowl game schedule for the 2007-2008 college football season.| Bowl Game | Date/Time (ET) | Site | Matchup | Network |
| Poinsettia | Dec. 20/9 p.m. | San Diego | Utah vs. Navy | ESPN |
| New Orleans | Dec. 21/8 p.m. | New Orleans | Florida Atlantic vs. Memphis | ESPN2 |
| PapaJohn's.com | Dec. 22/11 a.m. | Birmingham, Ala. | Cincinnati vs. Southern Miss | ESPN2 |
| New Mexico | Dec. 22/4:30 p.m. | Albuquerque, N.M. | Nevada vs. New Mexico | ESPN |
| Las Vegas | Dec. 22/8 p.m. | Las Vegas | BYU vs. UCLA | ESPN |
| Hawaii | Dec. 23/8 p.m. | Honolulu | East Carolina vs. Boise State | ESPN |
| Motor City | Dec. 26/7:30 p.m. | Detroit | Purdue vs. Central Michigan | ESPN |
| Holiday | Dec. 27/8 p.m. | San Diego | Texas vs. Arizona State | ESPN |
| Texas | Dec. 28/8 p.m. | Houston | TCU vs. Houston | NFL |
| Champs Sports | Dec. 28/5 p.m. | Orlando, Fla. | Boston College vs. Michigan State | ESPN |
| Emerald | Dec. 28/8:30 p.m. | San Francisco | Maryland vs. Oregon State | ESPN |
| Meinke Car Care | Dec. 29/11 a.m. | Charlotte, N.C. | Wake Forest vs. UConn | ESPN |
| Liberty | Dec. 29/4:30 p.m. | Memphis, Tenn. | Central Florida vs. Mississippi State | ESPN |
| Alamo | Dec. 29/8 p.m. | San Antonio | Penn State vs. Texas A&M | ESPN |
| Independence | Dec. 30/8 p.m. | Shreveport | Colorado vs. Alabama | ESPN |
| Armed Forces | Dec. 31/10:30 a.m. | Fort Worth, Texas | Air Force vs. Cal | ESPN |
| Sun | Dec. 31/2 p.m. | El Paso, Texas | South Florida vs. Oregon | CBS |
| Humanitarian | Dec. 31/2 p.m. | Boise, Idaho | Georgia Tech vs. Fresno State | ESPN2 |
| Music City | Dec. 31/4 p.m. | Nashville, Tenn. | Florida State vs. Kentucky | ESPN |
| Chick-fil-A | Dec. 31/7:30 p.m. | Atlanta | Clemson vs. Auburn | ESPN |
| Insight | Dec. 31/5:30 p.m. | Tempe, Ariz. | Indiana vs. Oklahoma State | NFL |
| Outback | Jan. 1/11 a.m. | Tampa, Fla. | Wisconsin vs. Tennessee | ESPN |
| Cotton | Jan. 1/11:30 a.m. | Dallas | Missouri vs. Arkansas | FOX |
| Gator | Jan. 1/11 a.m. | Jacksonville, Fla. | Virginia vs. Texas Tech | CBS |
| Capital One | Jan. 1/11 a.m. | Orlando, Fla. | Michigan vs. Florida | ABC |
| Rose | Jan. 1/4:30 p.m. | Pasadena, Calif. | USC vs. Illinois | ABC |
| Sugar | Jan. 1/8:30 p.m. | New Orleans | Georgia vs. Hawaii | FOX |
| Fiesta | Jan. 2/8 p.m. | Phoenix | Oklahoma vs. West Virginia | FOX |
| Orange | Jan. 3/8 p.m. | Miami | Virginia Tech vs. Kansas | FOX |
| International | Jan. 5/10 a.m. | Toronto | Rutgers vs. Ball State | ESPN2 |
| GMAC | Jan. 6/8 p.m. | Mobile, Ala. | Tulsa vs. Bowling Green | ESPN |
| BCS Title | Jan. 7/8 p.m. | New Orleans | Ohio State vs. LSU | FOX |
Comments:
Hotty Toddy said:
posted on December 2, 2007 8:26 PM — 75.105.128.57 — link — abuse?
I believe Hawaii and Ohio St. just signed their death warrants against the two best teams in the SEC (in my opinion). But hey, of course i'm biased.
Wonder if Buckeyes fans will use the "51 days since..." excuse again, if LSU wins.
Just an observation.
posted on December 2, 2007 8:33 PM — link — abuse?Kevin Donahue
said:
@Autigerman - I kinda have a problem with the Kansas pick too, but I can live with it. I'm particularly glad that KU got the Orange, though, with its traditional Big 8 tie-in.
@Hotty Toddy - Truer words were never spoken on those SEC teams. And the Zookers - they've got their work cut out for them. USC looks like a hornets nest right now.
Autigerman said:
posted on December 2, 2007 8:43 PM — 68.109.98.15 — link — abuse?
I always thought you had to be a top twelve team to qualify. Guess not.
I really wanted to see Illinois play Florida in the capital one bowl.Wanted to see Oklahoma play USC and Georgia play VT.
However if somehow Hawaii could pull off the upset of Georgia i think they should jump over everyone and win the title.
GA Boy said:
posted on December 2, 2007 8:49 PM — 97.89.26.241 — link — abuse?
Just like I said last night. I knew when WVA and Mizzou lost that we would end up playing Hawaii. Sorry as Pac 10 Washington can't hold onto a 21 point lead and take Hawaii out of the picture. Unbelievable. Good lord Willingham get a defense.
GO DAWGS
GA Boy said:
posted on December 2, 2007 8:57 PM — 97.89.26.241 — link — abuse?
1st and Nole
You are correct, but don't worry about it. We won't lose. The boys are crazy this year. Richt will come up with something to have them so fired up that they will look like crazed maniacs on that Superdome turf.GO DAWGS
GatorMatt
posted on December 2, 2007 9:31 PM — 70.171.18.91 — link — abuse? said:
This is unreal. My opinions
1. It's laughable that OSU is back in the title game. I understand their record, but in all honesty, who did they beat that was worth a sh*t? Akron? Kent State? Youngstown State? Minnesota (1-11)? I predict the same outcome as last year, and like someone put above me, we'll probably hear the same "51 day layover" excuse
2. I'm sick of the Rose Bowl trying to stick with tradition. Does anyone really think Illinois deserves to be there? I understand no more than 2 conference teams can play in a BCS game, but why not send Arizona State to the Fiesta Bowl and West Va to the Rose? Jim Delaney needs to step down off of his high horse and get with the times
3. As much as it pains me to say it, I would love to see Hawaii just destroy UGA for the sheer fact that I think that would push for a playoff. Couple that with OSU getting dismantled, and I think there could be enough ruckus to possibly do a +1 system.
4. I don't think Michigan deserves to play Florida. You don't lose to a 1AA team and then get to play the 9th or 12th ranked team, depending on which ranking you look at. I'm sorry, but I don't agree with that
5. I'd love to see the Coaches Trophy stay in the SEC. It doesn't belong anywhere else
M GO BLUE said:
posted on December 2, 2007 9:38 PM — 216.46.210.230 — link — abuse?
GATORHIPPY!!!!!!! I am sooooo excited!!!!!! We can finally feel the power of Superman himself!!!!!! We will wear Tebow's cleat marks across our helmet's with pride!!!!
Tim Tebow.......Percy Harvin.......Urban Meyer..........(sigh)......A hush will fall over the Michigan crowd as they walk into the Citrus bowl..........and we will finally be playing on the same field as THE FLORIDA GATOR'S..............................were going to get crushed...................but Florida will have some respect for Mike Hart after they finish playing against him..........
Go Blue
posted on December 2, 2007 9:39 PM — link — abuse? said:
@GatorMatt - The word on the street is that LSU's inclusion really locked the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl committee openly spoke about bringing Georgia to the west coast. Once LSU was in, however, the Sugar needed to take UGA to guarantee the sellout.
GatorMatt
posted on December 2, 2007 9:46 PM — 70.171.18.91 — link — abuse? said:
#24,
Just wondering if Delaney is on that committee? He must not be if the mere thought of a non Big 2 team playing in the Rose even came up. I do like Ron Zook, but not as Florida's coach. I would like to see him bring down the "All Mighty" USC, but I don't think it will happen. Unlike Tressel, I think Carroll can prepare for a spread offense. I would like to see some competitive BCS games, and I think 2, maybe even 3 out of the 5 will be complete disasters. I say do away with the 2 team maximum BCS format
M GO BLUE said:
posted on December 2, 2007 9:52 PM — 216.46.210.230 — link — abuse?
GatorMatt,......maybe we can have nice restrooms and drinking fountains for you Gator fans.......and maybe a water hose and outhouse behind the satdium for the Michigan fans...........and just remember.....we are the team that lost to Appalachian State............I would have thought during a year like this, no fan would ever say any D-1 team is not worthy of another.
indieguy06 said:
posted on December 2, 2007 9:54 PM — 69.111.12.202 — link — abuse?
I couldn't be more dissapointed with these matchups. USC vs. Illi, wtf!? Wow really have nothing to look forward to. Looking forward to the Texas, Arizona State game more than the rose, orange and sugar combined. I hope OSU makes it interesting against LSU. BCS SUCKS, period. . . Illinois GTFO of here. . . .
Fight On!
hrposon said:
posted on December 2, 2007 9:59 PM — 98.200.123.115 — link — abuse?
@22 GatorMatt - The purpose of the BCS is to put the Pac 10 and the Big 10 into their special ABC/ESPN bowl, the Rose.
Now for the more corrupt part, how to get 1 more PAC 10 and Big 10 team each into another big money BCS bowl no matter how bad they are. West Virginia is in the wrong conference...
posted on December 2, 2007 10:02 PM — 63.168.219.206 — link — abuse? said:
These Georgia fans are sounding alot like the Oklahoma fans from last year.
I am going to stick with my Road to a split championship.
1) LSU over Ohio State
2) Hawaii over UGA
3) VT over Kansas
4) AP voters screw LSU and the BCSA season like this one deserves a split championship.
OU-Ron
posted on December 2, 2007 10:12 PM — 72.198.24.199 — link — abuse? said:
Where's Zac, we talked about a Oklahoma-WVU match up several weeks ago..looking forward to the matchup..Congrats to LSU and Ohio St for outlasting everyone else, just think, if we had one more week of games, there would be someone else in the NCG
T-Mac
posted on December 2, 2007 10:43 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse? said:
Ben, 30. You honestly think that Hawaii will beat Georgia?
The last time Hawaii played an SEC team(Alabama) they had the #1 scoring offense and all the sic stats on offense.
2005. Alabama-25 Hawaii-17
Brennan will be getting sack sandwiches all game long.
T-Mac will not predict a score on this game.
Georgia wins this game Ben.
*T-Mac approved this message.
Geauxtigers0107 said:
posted on December 2, 2007 10:48 PM — 144.5.224.142 — link — abuse?
Ditto on the "Georgia to the Rose Bowl" comment. That would be a sweet ass game. But they'll have the Dome lo-o-o-oade-e-e-e-ed!!!!! That should be a disaster for Hawaii. By no means what-so-f'ing-ever does LSU deserve the #1 ranking, but damn... #2 teams in the country this year have caught hell. It appears from the posts above that some think LSU will blow out tOSU, but I don't buy into that. They'll have redemption on their mind bigtime. Good luck to all 9!!!!! SEC teams in their bowl games this year. I'd be happy with 7 wins for the SEC but looking at the games, I'll go with 6-3 record (fingers crossed). Florida v. Mich should be a good one to watch, IMO. But home field should play a big part. Can the Maize and Blue travel into south Fla and pull out the win? Time will tell. Of course, I gotta pull for the SEC and pick Florida. Hopefully all the teams come in healthy after their layoffs and put their best team forward.
Aside from the Title Game (of course), I don't like any of the matchups in the BCS games. The fans want to see the powerhouses play each other. But with all the upsets this year, that is impossible. An 8 team playoff would be great. Home field goes to higher ranked team. And if the sponsors want to throw money at the games to retain the Bowls, by all means do so. That's the only way we'll ever KNOW who the best team in the country is.
Geaux SEC
Geaux Tigersbuckforlife said:
posted on December 2, 2007 10:53 PM — 24.10.179.194 — link — abuse?
gatormatt, you have a pretty big mouth for finishing third in the SEC. It's not Ohio State's fault that they beat everyone they are supposed to...oh yea except for that once. Why don't you go make out with Mark May or something
VTBobb said:
posted on December 2, 2007 11:03 PM — 70.17.10.81 — link — abuse?
I'm not saying LSU doesn't deserve to go. They did kick VT's butt (all be it early in the season with VT having to play third string O line), but are a 21-14 win over Tennesses or a 24-7 win over UCLA so much more impressive than a 33-21 win over BC that LSU and USC should jump 3 and 4 spots respectively while VT only moves up 1 spot in the Harris poll? That poll just lost some legitimacy in my view.
buckforlife said:
posted on December 2, 2007 11:09 PM — 24.10.179.194 — link — abuse?
doesn't anyone feel like Oklahoma got screwed in this whole thing. They had a 2 loss record just like LSU and they won their conference championship just like LSU and they beat the #1 ranked team to do it. If we are throwing out the rankings, which apparently the geniuses of the BCS are, then why can't Oklahoma jump up 7 spots to lose to Ohio State in the title game?
GatorMatt
posted on December 2, 2007 11:17 PM — 24.250.179.109 — link — abuse? said:
#39,
I would hope they were supposed to beat the teams that they did. I'm pretty sure a few high school teams could give teams such as Kent State a run for their money. I'm not gonna go off like the OSU fans did last year about a prediction for the game, b/c we all know how that worked out. There wasn't a peep out of Columbus for quite some time. However, with the 57th ranked toughest schedule vs. the 2nd, I don't forsee a good outcome. And as for Mark May? That guy is the biggest anti-SEC commentator I've ever seen. He only praises Tebow because let's face it, he has no choice. I'm crossing my fingers that the game outcome is the same as last year, and OSU will be banned from taking a more deserving teams spot in the championship game
Geauxtigers0107 said:
posted on December 2, 2007 11:23 PM — 144.5.224.142 — link — abuse?
For fans of a playoff, THIS IS A MUST READ:
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=dw-playoff112707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
It was written back in late November, which reflects the rankings at that time.
@buckforlife:
While I think Oklahoma is as good as anybody right now, they were just too far behind LSU in BCS rankings to overtake them. Had LSU lost, Oklahoma would've got selected I think.Mizzou is the team that got anally plunged this year. I feel for those guys.
Geaux SEC
Geaux TigersZMANSTAN said:
posted on December 2, 2007 11:35 PM — 76.190.10.125 — link — abuse?
How soon we forget...in 2002 OSU didn't have a chance against the unbeatable Miami Hurricanes, OSU 13 point underdog....oops. Boise State last year didn't have a chance against OK, no one told them! .....oops! Stanford beating an unbeatable USC team this year even with their injuries....oops! The list goes on and on, this is what makes college football great. So when you over-confident posters are trashing other teams and leagues, I would be very careful. This year the underdog role sounds pretty darn good to me. Go OSU....2 starting seniors!
buckforlife said:
posted on December 2, 2007 11:42 PM — 24.10.179.194 — link — abuse?
We can both take the high road on a prediction for the game. I have a lot of respect for LSU. But yea I am still a little salty about last years title game and I think my head is going to explode because I might actually root for Michigan over Florida. Who can't I stand more...mike hart or tim tebow...Hmm that's tough
Pats 19 and 0 said:
posted on December 2, 2007 11:43 PM — 76.88.119.41 — link — abuse?
VT fans are rediculous. Beating BC at #10 vice Tennessee at #14 is no more a feat for VT than LSU, especially since these rankings are totally objective. Who did VT beat that was really good? Clemson? UVA? BC? Give me a break. All overrated ACC teams. Go lose to Kansas.
My surprise game: Mich over Florida
mcablarda said:
posted on December 3, 2007 1:02 AM — 12.217.242.125 — link — abuse?
1st and nole if you knew the rose bowl its usually between the big 10 champs and the pac 10 champs. since ohio st. is playing in the national championship game they gave it to illinois who was second in the big ten and raked 17th. besides they beat ohio st. they should be able to give usc a game.
Regan said:
posted on December 3, 2007 2:59 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Geauxtigers0107 (#44):
I've got one too, along with several arguments already saved to disk to copy-and-paste every single December when Playoff Junkies start trying to contaminate my beloved College Football.
http://www.sportingnews.com/experts/matt-hayes/20050214.html
No finger pointing, I just love getting overly dramatic when it comes to this subject. :-)It was written in 2005, a year after an undefeated SEC champ got left out of the Title Game, so it still has a fist full of relevance.
I'm for a "Plus-One Contingent on Basis of Need". Based on the final records, this would match up Ohio State and Hawaii for the NC Game.
posted on December 3, 2007 6:39 AM — link — abuse? said:
Just for clarification, the "plus one" that has been discussed by the BCS would be a four or five team play-in format, with each team seeded over the course of the games. The winners of the brackets would meet in the national championship.
If Mike Slive's format were in place this year, it is impossible to predict who would play for the NC, but the games would be seeded as per BCS standings...
Ohio State vs Oklahoma
LSU vs Va Tech... and then the 2 winners for the NC.
The one caveat would be that it would be difficult to forecast what the BCS standings may have been were this format in place. Some teams made unusual moves in the polls this weekend, so the top four may/may not have been the top four, if that makes sense.
Seminole Jack said:
posted on December 3, 2007 8:20 AM — 66.147.117.53 — link — abuse?
#40
Are you kidding me VTBobb?
You lost to LSU by 41 POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do not think that it should matter if you were playing back ups in the game or if it was week 2. The NFL or any other league in the world does not pick their playoff teams based upon who is playing the best at the end of the season.
Typical Virginia Tech Delusion. Trust me I know my whole family went there.
posted on December 3, 2007 8:24 AM — 63.168.219.206 — link — abuse? said:
#37) I didn't think Hawaii would beat Fresno State, then they did.
I didn't think Hawaii would beat Boise State, then they did.
I didn't think Hawaii could come back from 21-0 against Washington, then they made it look like they had spotted them 21 to win with style points.
On the other side, I didn't think Georgia would lose to South Carolina, then they did.
I didn't think Georgia would lose to Tennessee, then they did.
Hawaii has proven to me that they can win, even when I think they shouldn't, and Georgia has demonstrated the opposite.
The Georgia coach just looks to smug about Hawaii for me to believe they are taking Hawaii seriously.
posted on December 3, 2007 8:25 AM — link — abuse? said:
@VTBobb - To use a Wall Street term, this week's poll is a "course correction". I think this week's poll is based on each team's body of work throughout the season, whereas the other polls have really been a week-to-week snapshot. (Or at least that's my impression)
That's that only rationale that explains so many teams moving without playing, while other idle teams stayed flat.
posted on December 3, 2007 8:41 AM — 63.168.219.206 — link — abuse? said:
#57) What about the possibility that, especially in the Coaches Poll, the pollsters don't really take time to break down each game, and only really focus on the last one that matters?
Anyone else notice that the computers have VT as the #1 team in the country, over LSU and Ohio State?
VTBobb said:
posted on December 3, 2007 9:10 AM — 74.1.112.66 — link — abuse?
@Kevin - That's my impression as well.
#47 & #55 - I never said LSU didn't deserve it, just that VT had an argument, AND the pollsters, obviously thought they were wrong last week.
The reason the computers have VT #1 is because Tevh lost to 2 RANKED teams, and margin of victory has been mostly nullified in the computations.
Foiled said:
posted on December 3, 2007 9:37 AM — 75.35.30.112 — link — abuse?
Well there you have it, LSU with yet another big game they get to play at home. If you took the unbelievable luck factor out of their last 3 years you would have the real LSU and not the one that's unfortunately going to play for the title in LA again. For any of you Ohio State fans reading this, be warned, LSU fans are dirt and they are going to make your experience in New Orleans miserable. Prepare to be spit on and have fights started pretty much nonstop. Oh and if they win? Don't even bother going to Bourbon Street. For your own safety you'll be better off going straight from the stadium to the airport.
jonsey said:
posted on December 3, 2007 9:39 AM — 167.197.127.130 — link — abuse?
USC vs. Illinois???
GA vs. Hawaii???
if you would have told me that these teams would be in a bowl game facing each other at the start of the season, i would have LMAO. but- wow, what a crazy and stupid season, please just get it over with. im ready for next year. GA prolly winning the SEC against my team Alabama in the SEC championship and then going on to win the NC.can't wait....
M GO BLUE said:
posted on December 3, 2007 10:35 AM — 216.46.213.88 — link — abuse?
Look's like Orlando is going to get a full dose of Michigan football with Michigan state playing Boston college on the 28th and Michigan playing Florida on the 1st......
Boston College is going to be favored over Mich state but state will do better than some might expect.......Mich state lost by 7 to Ohio State, a game played at Ohio State.....lost by 3 to Wisconsin.....lost by 4 to Michigan.....and the other two losses were in OT.......Michigan State might pull the upset.
Michigan................well, all M GO BLUE can say is Lloyd Carr is getting one more chance to show us that he knows how to stop a spread offense..............he has not changed in 13 years...........i see the chances as slim.
go spartans
AND GO BLUE
Spartacus
posted on December 3, 2007 10:47 AM — 72.25.84.228 — link — abuse? said:
M GO BLUE:
Just another way to pave the way for the SEC to look good. I have Florida as the 2nd best team in the country - actually. This is a very good Florida team. So what do they do? They put them in against the worst Michigan team in a few years. Oh, all the SEC'ers will think it's a special win. It's the same thing they did when they threw Notre Dame to LSU last year. This whole BCS thing is quite the joke. I agree that Michigan State will probably pound on Boston College. BC will not be able to stop that running game.
Tommie Trojan
fuklsulesmilesandthemedia said:
posted on December 3, 2007 11:05 AM — 65.65.49.226 — link — abuse?
What a fking joke, and outright farse the bcs is!!!! the media has wanted lsu in the championship all year, and they were highly discouraged when they(lsu)got beat in thier own backyard to arkansas!!! well the media got thier way!!! if i were kansas, oklahoma or hawaii i would stay home and snub the very biased media, and the bcs comittie!!!! STAY HOME HAWAII, OKLAHOMA, AND KANSAS AS ALL THREE OF YOU DESERVE TO BE IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME OVER THE MEDIA FED lsu squad that looses at home to unranked arkansas!
VTBobb said:
posted on December 3, 2007 1:56 PM — 74.1.112.66 — link — abuse?
I know the stated goal of the BCS is to match the #1 and #2 team sin the country and therefore crown an "undisputed" national champion, but wouldn't it be nice to see some interesting BCS bowls? It may have only limited appekl out of the region, but a VT-MVU match up in th eOrange Bowl would probably sell out in an hour!
And where is Diggs. I guess the "killer Peeps" unifroms are only good for 1 win.
badgerballer
posted on December 3, 2007 1:59 PM — 70.59.192.105 — link — abuse? said:
@ #67Can't say that I completely disagree with your sentiment, but the aggression is mis-placed. Of course there's no hope of any of those teams choosing to "stay home" in protest of a corrupt (at best), flawed (at least) system. The pay days for those schools and conferences are way too large for that possibility to even register a blip on the radar.
No, the real angle here is to put your/our money where our mouths are and not tune into these games - especially the title game. At the end of the day, we - the faceless fans - are the ones to blame and/or to hold the system accountable. When and if ratings for the game plummet into the toilet, the system will change. But come Jan. 7th, when 20 million (or whatever) record-setting households tune in, and Fox gets their $1.6 million (or whatever) per 45-second commercial spot, the powers who have the ability to affect real change will just smile and say, 'what a great system'.
You want to see things legitimized, then don't tune in, don't watch, and tell everyone you know - along with those you don't - not to either.
lisa said:
posted on December 3, 2007 2:58 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
SOMEONE HELP!!
does anyYone know of an official ranking of the importance of the bowls? i always thought it went by the play date. closest to the championship game led to importance. is this right? so it would be (after the championship game) #2 orange bowl, #3 fiesta bowl, #4 sugar bowl and #5 rose bowl. is that correct? and if so, does anyone know where i can find an "official" statement of such? please help! i have a bet riding on this!lisa said:
posted on December 3, 2007 2:58 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
SOMEONE HELP! PLEASE!
does anyone know of an official ranking of the importance of the bowls? i always thought it went by the play date. closest to the championship game led to importance. is this right? so it would be (after the championship game) #2 orange bowl, #3 fiesta bowl, #4 sugar bowl and #5 rose bowl. is that correct? and if so, does anyone know where i can find an "official" statement of such? please help! i have a bet riding on this! thanks.lisa said:
posted on December 3, 2007 3:01 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
SOMEONE HELP! PLEASE!
does anyone know of an official ranking of the importance of the bowls? i always thought it went by the play date. closest to the championship game led to importance. is this right? so it would be (after the championship game) #2 orange bowl, #3 fiesta bowl, #4 sugar bowl and #5 rose bowl. is that correct? and if so, does anyone know where i can find an "official" statement of such? please help! i have a bet riding on this! thanks.lisa said:
posted on December 3, 2007 3:03 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
SOMEONE HELP!! PLEASE!
does ANYone know of an official ranking of the importance of the bowls? i always thought it went by the play date. closest to the championship game led to importance. is this right? so it would be (after the championship game) #2 orange bowl, #3 fiesta bowl, #4 sugar bowl and #5 rose bowl. is that correct? and if so, does anyone know where i can find an "official" statement of such? please help! i have a bet riding on this!M GO BLUE said:
posted on December 3, 2007 3:17 PM — 216.46.210.140 — link — abuse?
If there is a working tv around, M GO BLUE is going to watch EVERY BCS GAME!!!
M GO BLUE IS ALSO GOING TO WATCH THE COTTON BOWL AND THE CAPITAL ONE BOWL AND M GO BLUE IS GOING TO ENJOY EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY GAME!!!
Fact is I love watching football and I have loved watching football even when the system was messed up!!
My team is in the Capital one bowl, and as far as i'm concerned it's a great place to be for Michigan!!!
GO BLUE
GO BADGERS
GO BUCKEYE'S
GO SPARTANS
GO HOOSIER'S
GO BOILERMAKER'S.....??????
GO JOE PA
GO ILLINI
I know i'm such a homer but people are spewing crap about my team and the teams in my conference.lisa said:
posted on December 3, 2007 3:22 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
geeze guys, i'm SORRY. really. the system kept calling up a "system error" and i kept reloading only to find my post not posted. so i resent it. SORRY. SORRY. SORRY. sheesh.
now, would someone PLEASE answer my question. from above? if anyone knows the answer, that is.
does anyone know the rankings of the bowls importance? thanks. (sorry, again)TE
posted on December 3, 2007 3:24 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Foiled,
All I can say is ask the owner/operator of the site "Every Day Should Be Saturday" about his experience in Baton Rouge...Ask the color/PBP guys from Delaware State who came down this year for Auburn...Ask VT fans on their own site who came down this past year...
We treat visitors with great respect, especially in New Orleans...Their man claim to fame is the hospitality and tourism industries down there, and to be honest, I've already heard some bad stories about OSU fans, though I'd rather make my own assumptions. Every Yankee I've ever met in the Quarter was having such a deliriously good time you'd have mistaken him for a long-lost-brother once we'd talked for a few minutes...
Ask the Auburn fans that were in the quarter for the 2003 game. A lot of opposing teams' fans will stay there, getting in Thursday night and doing it up Friday, riding into BR on Saturday afternoon for the night games...
We respect visitors to our state, and our crown jewel of a city...
There's a crime problem there like any major metropolitan area, but I have never personally had an issue with crime, and I've been so many times I can't even begin to try to count...
Welcome, Buckeye fans!
VTBobb said:
posted on December 3, 2007 3:25 PM — 74.1.112.66 — link — abuse?
Lisa, My understanding is, in general, the later the bowl, the higher prestige. However, I don't think that is an absolute. Since it seems to be the driving force behind the BCS, FOLLOW THE MONEY!
http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl_games_bowl_schedule.html
I didn't check these, but they look about right. As you can see, a few lower tier bowls are now late in the bowl schedule.
lisa said:
posted on December 3, 2007 3:26 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
geeze guys, i'm SORRY. really. the system kept calling up a "system error" and i kept reloading only to find my post not posted. so i resent it. SORRY. SORRY. SORRY. sheesh.
now, would someone PLEASE answer my question. from above? if anyone knows the answer, that is.
does anyone know the rankings of the bowls importance? thanks. (sorry, again)FanoftheGame said:
posted on December 3, 2007 3:27 PM — 198.211.223.194 — link — abuse?
Well, I have always supported some sort of playoff system, but have still felt that something would need to be done to preserve the prestige of the major bowls.
After seeing the selection commitees pass on better teams in some bowls in order to increse revenue, I can see that even some bowl committees have no regard for there own history or prestige.Sorry Kev, I know you are a big fan of the bowls. I on the otherhand love college football and the bowl committees seem to exploiting and commercializing the game as much if not more than the BcS already does.
Right now, you would be hard pressed to find 4 better teams in the country than Georgia, USC, and Oklhoma (none of which am I a big fan of), however none of these guys get a chance to play for the MNC. Instead, we get a good (not great) LSU team taking on "in by default" Ohio State team.
I can only assume that the BCS computer malfunctioned trying to get Notre Dame into a bcs bowl and came out with somewhat odd results.Congrats to the Tiger and Buckeye fans who never saw this coming 3 weeks ago.
Cane Mutiny
posted on December 3, 2007 3:32 PM — 65.12.247.141 — link — abuse? said:
Lisa - there's no "rankings" of BCS games behind the National Championship. It's not like it's #1 vs #2, then #3 vs #4, then #5 vs #6, and so on - it all has to do with conference tie-ins.
And by the way, I've found that impulsively making bets doesn't often work out...
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R.I.P. #26Cane Mutiny
posted on December 3, 2007 3:37 PM — 65.12.247.141 — link — abuse? said:
Lisa - there's no "rankings" of BCS games behind the National Championship. It's not like it's #1 vs #2, then #3 vs #4, then #5 vs #6, and so on - it all has to do with conference tie-ins.
And by the way, I've found that impulsively making bets doesn't often work out...
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R.I.P. #26lisa said:
posted on December 3, 2007 3:46 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
VTBobb - thanks for the info. that's what i thought, too. so, i'm going with me being right and winning the "bet". just wish the bcs would put something out saying such. oh well, run by men, what can a person expect. sorry, just had to throw that gender dig in seeing it has been such a crazy year this year and nothing has made sense in regards to the rankings.
TE and Foiled - i went to the vt v auburn game in 2004 in new orleans and i can verify that the people in new orleans were wonderful. and that includes the auburn fans (although i hated all those stupid lengthy cheers and songs they said,,, over and over again, no less). anyhow, i was even at the lsu v vt game in blacksburg a few years back (when we actually BEAT them, haha) and the lsu fans were cool. and, let me tell you, there were LOTS of them in tiny blacksburg, too. some crazy college kids fighting, but nothing too whacky and rude. so, i think any trip to new orleans would be a blast. ironically, i was kinda hoping vt would play there again this year just so i could go back and have a fun time like before (even when auburn won).
in general, and i know you guys are gonna jump on me 'cause i'm a "woman", so go right ahead. but let me ask yet another question for you intelligent beings of the other gender. why don't the bowl match-ups follow in order of final ranking before bowl time? 1/2 for championship, 3/4 #2 bcs bowl, 5/6 #3 bcs bowl, etc. at the end of the year shouldn't the coaches poll/ap poll/bcs poll decide the ranking and thus the bowl berths? call me crazy, as i'm sure you will, but doesn't that make sense?
Spartacus
posted on December 3, 2007 3:47 PM — 72.25.84.228 — link — abuse? said:
lisa:
Just go ahead and go on out. You can hit the "back" and "forward" buttons to get back to your post if you need to. You can still hit "refresh" on the "main page" until you see your post. Usually, no matter what the system says, it did take your post immediately - unless you did not sign in. Even then, you can sign in, and then go back to your post and hit the submit key. They rarely ever get lost.
Now, the way in which the five major bowls are listed have to do with game times only. The most important is the "BCS National Championship". The other four (Rose, Sugar, Fiesta and Orange) are all equally important - usually. The Rose will be played earliest with Orange and Fiesta usually being night games. The Sugar can be played in the early afternoon or evening. None of this makes sense - but all four games are of the same importance.Tommie Trojan
lisa said:
posted on December 3, 2007 4:01 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Spartacus and Caine - thanks guys. you just took away my bet winning satisfaction. just for that you guys have to give me some ammo (preferably factually based) to goed a wvu friend of mine who keeps telling me wvu is better than vt AND the big east is better/stronger/tougher/whatever than the acc. it's a long standing rivalry between vt and wvu and i'm simply trying to prove vt is the better football team. help me out guys. well, unless you like wvu better, if so, then keep quiet! haha
oh, and get this, he doesn't think vt should be ranked higher than wvu (who, btw, lost to an unranked team when they were ranked #2,,, well, you guys probably already know all that! haha)
VTBobb said:
posted on December 3, 2007 4:06 PM — 74.1.112.66 — link — abuse?
Lisa, as for playing #3 vs #4, etc...The bowls, rightfully so, want to maintain some control to try to get an attractive matchup. Remember, one of the main reasons a city hosts a bowl is to bring in th etourist dollars and to show off the city on a national stage for future tourism. For the BCS bowls, there are several conference tie-ins, with the remainder being choosen by a rotating order for the rest of the teams.
That being said, not sure there are many "attractive matchups" in the BCS bowls, outside of the championship game.
I just had an epiffany...You don't suppose some of the Bowls are trying to duplicate Boise State's BCS upset from last year, do you?
OR (2nd epiphany) Maybe the BCS put some pressure on to prevent some of the "deserving teams" from playing each other, thus creating the dreaded "Split National Championship" if the AP voted one of the winners of the other close games #1.
lisa said:
posted on December 3, 2007 4:17 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
VTBobb - umm, you're talking over my head, buddy. i have no idea about a boise state upset. i do know that i really like the smurf turf color and would like vt to play there sometime so i can use it as an excuse to see it in person. haha
i think your second ephiphany may be correct. however, when vt beats kansas (and i'm not being cocky just realistic) and oklahoma beats wvu (and i'm just being a bitter wv rival) what will that say about the match-ups? especially if we see blow outs?
to me, the whole bcs system is screwy. i have never been a fan. my logical side says simply start the season a few weeks earlier and allow for a playoff system in december with the championship game in january. then we all will know the winner of that game is the true champion.
lisa said:
posted on December 3, 2007 4:35 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
VTBobb - there's a charleston alley cats?!?
never a break, that's what a rivalry is all about. besides, he talks too tough even when i was giving him sympathy for the wv loss to pitt. which, let me tell you, was difficult to give. secretly, i thoroughly enjoyed watching that game. :-)
Spartacus
posted on December 3, 2007 4:37 PM — 72.25.84.228 — link — abuse? said:
Lisa:
Don Nehlen coached West Virginia between 1995-2000 compiling a record of 39-31 for a winning percentage of .557 for those six years. Frank Beamer had coached Virginia Tech to a record of 47-14 over that same time period for a winning percentage of .770 for those six years.
Rich Rodriquez became head coach of West Virginia and coached that team to a 28-21 record (.571) between 2001-2004. Frank Beamer, meanwhile, was compiling a record of 36-16 (.692) at Virginia Tech for those same four years.
West Virginia had two incoming freshmen in 2005, Pat White and Steve Slaton, who made a drastic improvement in the fortunes of West Virginia. Between 2005-2007, West Virginia under Rich Rodriquez, has compiled a record of 32-5 (.865) during these past three years. Virginia Tech has almost kept pace by winning 32 of 39 games (.821) during these last three years.
West Virginia has compiled a 99-57 record over the last thirteen years (.635 winning pct.) - while only becoming an NCAA power over the last three years. Frank Beamer and Virginia Tech have compiled a 115-37 record over the last thirteen years (.757 winning pct.) while averaging almost nine wins every single season and winning at least ten games in nine different years.
Clearly, Virginia Tech has been the "dominate team" for about four times as long as West Virginia has, and more definately defines the term "football program".Tommie Trojan
lisa said:
posted on December 3, 2007 4:51 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Spartacus - if i could see you, i would KISS you! thank you so much for that information. trust me, i'll be printing it out and handing it over to my friend. i wonder what crud he'll attempt to spew back at me. now it won't matter, i'll have the FACTS on my side. :-) you're the greatest! thanks!
maybe i'll work that information up into christmas card format! heeheehee
Dr. J. said:
posted on December 3, 2007 5:01 PM — 68.155.69.37 — link — abuse?
After LSU handles Ohio State in the championship game in much the same fashion as Florida handled them last year, look for the Big 10 to withdraw from the BCS series, and probably convince the Pac 10 to do likewise. That way they can return to their Rose Bowl contranct and once again be able to dodge the best teams from the Deep South and win national championships in the polls, rather than on the field.
Spartacus
posted on December 3, 2007 5:12 PM — 72.25.84.228 — link — abuse? said:
lisa:
Always been willing to help a "damsel in distress". Don't worry about me - I'm good! Maybe a little too helpful - as I have ten children and another set of twins on the way! Well, "cheaper by the dozen" they always say, but somehow I know that just isn't true. Hell, it's hard being a "super hero". It's really not all it's cracked up to be.
Tommie Trojan
M GO BLUE said:
posted on December 3, 2007 5:38 PM — 216.46.209.187 — link — abuse?
TOMMIE T A FOOTBALL COACH!!!!! WATCH OUT WORLD!!!!
Seriously, before the Rosebowl last year Tommie T described every play in detail before it happened..........M GO BLUE would be great with Tommie T coaching Michigan =)
VTBobb said:
posted on December 3, 2007 5:44 PM — 70.22.115.189 — link — abuse?
One question, Does anyone NOT understand why Delany and the Big "10"/PAC 10 refuse to allow some sort of palyoff? It's obvious to me! If there were a playoff, the Conferences would be exposed! Hell the Big "10" is so weak, they need 11 teams to equal 10.
VTBobb said:
posted on December 3, 2007 6:07 PM — 70.22.115.189 — link — abuse?
Buck, Actually, the ACC had 7 teams over .500, Big 10 had 8. However, Duke beat one of your teams (how do you defend that). And check the SOSs. BTW, how many conference games do Big 10 teams play?
Here's a headline for you "OHIO STATE AND ILLINOIS GIVE BIG TEN TWO TEAMS IN BCS BOWLS FOR SEVENTH TIME IN 10 YEARS".
http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120207aaa.html
That's from the Big 10 website and that explains it all.
War Eagle Atlanta
posted on December 3, 2007 6:33 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Tommie T: You know they found out what causes that pregnancy thing. Trying to field your own football team? I guess with the twins coming you either have your first defensive player or a sunstitute for the offense.
Surprised you have any time to write...
M GO BLUE said:
posted on December 3, 2007 6:35 PM — 216.46.209.187 — link — abuse?
Dr. J.
You know buddy, Ohio State is going to play for the National title........and if they win they will be crowned champions........maybe we would'nt accept them as champions........but our opinion would'nt really matter....would it?????????? They would still be the National Champions.
GO BLUE!Bleed Crimson
posted on December 3, 2007 6:40 PM — 130.160.147.104 — link — abuse? said:
::BOWL SEASON TIME::
BCS:
- LSU is going to run all over OSU. what a joke.
- hahahaha. i feel sooo bad for Hawaii. they might wanna make a mercy rule for that game.
- USC will dominate Illinois. dominate.
- Virginia Tech and Kansas will be a good game. a toss-up.
- Oklahoma and WVU will also be another good game. toss-up.SEC goes 8-1, possibly undefeated in their bowl games this year. The only one that could possibly get away is the Arkansas vs. Missouri game. But, i think Missouri will overlook a decent Arkansas team that does have a chance of winning this one. If Arkansas wins, will there really be any doubt at all as to who the best conference in the country is?
treeroller said:
posted on December 3, 2007 6:43 PM — 75.109.240.158 — link — abuse?
ok #53 and 54...you are idiots. There is a HUGE difference in going undefeated in the WAC and going undefeated in the statistically proven toughest conference in America. Auburn was more royally screwed in '04 than any team has been screwed by the bcs.
SilverBulletD
posted on December 3, 2007 6:45 PM — 24.145.251.96 — link — abuse? said:
Why does everyone hate on Ohio State and the Big 10?
I am accused of being an SEC hater and irrational to where I will just twist what people say to what I want it to be, yet you all do the same thing.
I am accused of being hypocritical, what are you all doing? You talk of strength of schedule based on rankings, but then talk about how wrong the rankings are. What sense does that make?
We are all funny. We talk bitch and complain about how screwed up everything is and how we hate it and each other yet we're all still here.
I lump myself in with still being here.
grcunning said:
posted on December 3, 2007 6:49 PM — 71.72.42.64 — link — abuse?
Dr J@100
been hearing that all year, how the SEC is closer to the NFL than the NCAA, and that everyone else doesn't deserve to be on the same field.
The SEC is definitely a quality conference. It's just too bad that their championship contender is barely better than average. Georgia probably would have put up a much better fight, but we'll never know.
That idiot Mark May (aka TE junior) made a huge point last night about how OSU has "NEVER" been anywhere like New Orleans, and about that awesome LSU crowd...maybe so, during the regular season when LSU grudgingly gives the opposition about 500 to 1000 tickets. I promise you that there will be 40,000 Buckeye fans in the stadium, and 250,000 outside partying. This wont be nearly as much of a home game as you think (don't they teach math down there in the bayou?)
And as far as LSU handling OSU like Florida did last year, LSU is NOT the Florida of last year, not even close.
On Offense, I don't see LSU doing anything. You've got a barely average quarterback in Flynn(I personally think that Perrilloux would give OSU more trouble)
Hester is certainly a beast, but OSU eats up power runners, and you've got noone else in the backfield.
Mark May, once again gushed about LSU's weapons, speaking especially about Trindon Holliday....Holliday??? He averages what? 3 carries a game? Do you think Laurinitis is shaking in his boots over that?
And your "weapon" on the outside, Early Doucet? How many times do you have to hear "Doucet catches the pass, is dropped immediately for a 7 yard gain" to realize that he is a posession reciever, nothing more.
Once again, Mark May was talking about how LSU will spread the field and use their weapons, because Matt Flynn has blazing 4.5 speed..wtf? Hey Mr May, ease up on the "happy pills". I've never heard anyone describe Matt Flynn as another Dennis Dixon. If he tries to play like Dixon or Tebow, he'll be carted off before halftime.No, I think if LSU puts up points, it will be because of their defense. The best matchup in the game will be the OSU O-line against the LSU D-line. This game will be decided in the trenches.
In Ohio, we have a special name for that kind of football..It's called Tresselball.LSU is a dream matchup for the Buckeyes.
I'll hold off on a score prediction until we hear about Dorsey's health. If he isn't 100%, LSU's defensive line is in BIG BIG trouble.
Paybacks are hell, and now we know who's gonna get steamrolled...
Go BucksWar Eagle Atlanta
posted on December 3, 2007 7:00 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
SilverbulletD: Here's my beef with the Big 10 (read 11): They don't have a championship game. They don't crown a champion on the field. They don't have that last extra hurdle to clear, signifying a distinct winner. In other words, they don't quite have the same level of competition that the conferences that do have a championship game have.
The Big 10 (11) runs the risk of becominmg irrelevant if they don't get with the program. Nobody is going to give their champion equal weight in future BCS polls. The Pac 10 and Big Easy at least play a full conference schedule, each team playing every other member, although I don't think that will cut it for long in future BCS polls.
SilverBulletD
posted on December 3, 2007 7:05 PM — 24.145.251.96 — link — abuse? said:
What about when a conference has the wrong teams in a conference championship? More than once the best records in a conference dont play each other because they are in different divisions East/West or North/South.
How is that right?
grcunning said:
posted on December 3, 2007 7:10 PM — 71.72.42.64 — link — abuse?
War Eagle Atlanta@117
what a crock!!!
The Big10 should get with the program? What program, greed?
The ONE AND ONLY reason some conferences have a "championship game" is because they want the extra revenue those games bring in. It has absolutely NOTHING TO DO with any "level of competition". Wake up dude.
The Big 10 believes that the players are students first and athletes second, and allow them to spend their Thanksgiving with their families, instead of preparing for another game so the administrators can stuff their wallets.
You want to spend that extra money? fine...we don't care how many kids you take advantage of. Just don't complain when it jumps up and bites you in the ass like it did with missouri.SilverBulletD
posted on December 3, 2007 7:17 PM — 24.145.251.96 — link — abuse? said:
Ask UGA fans if they agree with the conference championship. If the Big 10 played one this year, which they basically did with Ohio State v. Michigan, it wouldn't have changed what happened to UGA or Mizzou.
Do you honestly believe the Michigan would have beat Ohio State if they played again a week or two later?
T-Mac
posted on December 3, 2007 7:22 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse? said:
Ben, 56. You bring up many valid points.
That is another way to look at Georgia.
T-Mac can't disagree with that.
T-Mac thinks the Georgia secondary will shutdown the Hawaii passing game.
Shut down the WR's and you beat Hawaii.
T-Mac doesn't have a score on this one, but Georgia wins. Richt will have em ready.
*T-Mac approved this message.
VTBobb said:
posted on December 3, 2007 7:53 PM — 70.22.115.1
Kevin Donahue 
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posted on December 2, 2007 7:39 PM — link — abuse?Comments now open. Enjoy!