January 18, 2008
Open Thread
Y'all have at it.
Comments:
gatorstud said:
posted on January 18, 2008 8:32 AM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
so kev...whats the word on the fsu q-b situation...with lee gone...whos next on the depth chart....
looks like florida jumped a few spots on the recruiiting boards....at least on the defensive side of the ball....hopefully the addition of will hill will give us another "pervy harvin" type threat....
is it september yet...
go gators...
gatorhippy
posted on January 18, 2008 8:39 AM — 70.121.110.84 — link — abuse?
said:
g-stud (#2):
Hill will more than likely be heading to the secondary...
He has great speed and was listed as an athlete in recruiting...
But this kid LOVES to hit and was a dominating safety in HS...
The next "Percy" is more than likely Jeff Demps out of Clermont, FL...
I've seen him play a couple of times as well as seen him in action on the track...
Kid is F-A-S-T...
1st_and_NOLE
posted on January 18, 2008 9:03 AM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse? said:
Well with Lee done the FSU QB depth chart will be DW as the #1 guy.
However, keep your eye on Christian Ponder to challenge for the starting QB job. He was a freshmen this past season but he looked VERY good when he played. DW got hurt in the VT game and Ponder came in, down by a couple scores, and lead an FSU comeback and FSU grabbed the lead for awhile - which is tough in a hostile environment. Then, VT pulled away for the decisive win.
But, when Ponder was in there, considering it was his first action ever, he was really impressive to me.
I think he'll compete for the starting job in the spring and may just get it.
gatorstud said:
posted on January 18, 2008 9:09 AM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
g-hippy...how are we doing with Mccray...did he sign his letter-of-intent yet....looking forward to seeing finley and jenkins....and with the additions of patchan and beal...gator defense should get better in the next two years.....mccray would be a great addition..and would give us a defensive unit similar to the days of the "freak"....
go gators....
FanoftheGame said:
posted on January 18, 2008 9:16 AM — 198.211.223.194 — link — abuse?
Not really sure if UT hired Applewhite on merit or because he's so popular with the fans in Austin. It would have been a great "damage control" hire by Mack, but that really isn't warranted either. Applewhite was "The Man" at UT until Mack Brown came to town. If memory serves me correctly- Mack benched Applewhite in favor of Simms, when Major was coming off of a "Big12 Offensive Player of the Year" season. Applewhite saved Mack's/Simm's @ss a few times that year as well in back-up duty.
Maybe Mack brought him back to save his butt again when he needs it, I don't know. I know the people in Austin look forward to seeing Major back on the UT sidelines.Tampa Hurricane
posted on January 18, 2008 11:00 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
Hurricane fans, what do you think about the hiring of Kansas Jayhawks defensive coordinator Bill Young to be Miami's new dc?
It looks like he did a great job with Kansas. In the six years he was there he take them from number 110 when he took over to 12 in overall defense this past year.
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 18, 2008 11:01 AM — 76.182.205.22 — link — abuse? said:
@4 OU Ron I'm not really giddy about the hire like i said in a previous thread Major hasn't really proven himself to me as a coach. He did have sucess during his stint at Rice helping their offense improve and helping them to a bowl game. His other 2 stops (Bama & Syracuse) im not too impressed with. Everyone is talking about it simply because Major is coming back to Texas. The Boomer nation wasn't excited when Josh Heupel cam to OU as a coach?
@7 Fanofthegame I agree with you a 100% i don't think Major was hired by merit. True that Major saved texas a$$ too m,nay times especially in the Holiday Bowl that year. I don't like Simms not too many Horn's fan's i know do. It's bad when your QB just happens to choke and throw picks in every single big game we had. I still to this day don't get the whole benching Major for Simms, and i probably never will. Im suprised Major came back to Texas, because of that.
Zac said:
posted on January 18, 2008 11:30 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
I'll never understand the logic of recruiting. It seems simple enough. Look at and evaluate what you have. Determine how long you're going to have it. Based upon these 2 factors recruit to the resulting needs.
Well, I know for a fact WVU needs LB's, DL, OL, and WR's. Thus far, only 2 LB's, 2 DT's, 1 DE, 1 OT, 1 OG, and 2 WR's have committed; none are above a 3 star (not that this has ever made a difference). What is the general percentage of a recruiting class producing 2nd stringers, let alone starters?
I am sincerely curious of one thing. And, DRAT, I must invoke the power of MGoBlue.
For the sake of argument, lets assume all the Bull $hit surrounding Rich Rodriguez & WVU has ended; Coach Rod & WVU have come to an amicable accord. MI has lost Hene, Hart, a host of receivers, some good linemen, and that's just on offense. Coach Rod's system requires a fleet footed, accurate armed QB, who cannot only make an opponent miss, but can deftly operate a multiple option system, which includes the ability to throw off the run. Who's that guy?
Coach Rod's system is actually designed to feature a pass heavy offense. That the running game has been so successful has been a function of coaching, execution, and the adaptability of key personnel. Still, it is intended that WR's flourish in this offense. However, Coach Rod demands his WR's be willing to block down field; in fact, he wants them good at it. Who will be accepting these duties?
Hart was the perfect RB for Coach Rod's system. Who replaces him?
Coach Rod's system demands an OL who are quick footed, get off the ball fast, get to their assignments fast, zone block, pass protect, get down field quickly, etc., etc., etc. Well, who has MI got that qualifies?
That was just the offense. Who shall be the quick individuals, fast off the ball, anchoring the DL for Coach Rod's 3-3 stack? LB's, S's, CB's??? Anyone?????
Suffice it to say, I suspect next season to be similar to Coach Rod's 1st year at WVU; well, maybe not quite that bad, but similar.
MGoBlue, what say you??????
TampaGator said:
posted on January 18, 2008 12:26 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Gatorstud/#6:
Presume you're referring to Lerentee
McCray from Dunnellon: he verbally committed on 1/16, per Scout.com.Hopefully he hasn't signed LOI before national siging day; that could get us in trouble. :)
(...at least, would be a nullity).Re. Will Hill: "The Eraser II" (Reggie Nelson) comes to mind.
GO GATORS!!Lennie Collins
posted on January 18, 2008 12:52 PM — 70.251.191.250 — link — abuse? said:
With Martin Luther King Birthday approaching let remember no matter what team conference or team colors...the playoff reality has passed! The playoff chances have passed! Can't we just all get along? All joking aside...let this be a year where the insults are few and the facts are plenty! Take care and be safe this weekend...endure this cold weather doggone it...it's winter time!
posted on January 18, 2008 12:57 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
Lennie: Do you think MLK liked college football? I mean, other than Morehouse? I think he held all those marches in Alabama because the House was always getting it's ass spanked by Tuskeegee--right down the road from my alma mater.
Lennie Collins
posted on January 18, 2008 1:02 PM — 70.251.191.250 — link — abuse? said:
War Eagle Atlanta Post #17...I don't know! He was not 100% Civil Rights activating all the time. I am sure he had to have some type of enjoyment of sports. I could be wrong. I have 3 friends that do not like any, I say any type of sports.
posted on January 18, 2008 1:11 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Sounds like me, Lennie. I only follow college football and nothing else. I quit devoting my time to following all these millionaire crybabies who have no loyalty to anything other than a paycheck.
After national signing day, I won't even read the sports page until August again. I don't pay to go to any games, although tickets fall in my lap all the time. I take in the occasional game, but just to be social.
There's just too much hype in sports today, and it turns me off. So I no longer watch it. Except for when the Falcons had Vick. I didn't watchj a single Falcons game this year...
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 18, 2008 1:13 PM — 76.182.205.22 — link — abuse? said:
Hey Zac yeah well i almost went to work for FT Worth pd just becasue they have that cool longhorns logo on their squad cars! My buddy from the military is currently a sophmore at WVU and he is hoping to do as you did and get comissioned with the state police. I can't say i know too much about the gun you were speaking about, but I'll ask my sergeant see what he know's he's a real gun buff.
Lennie Collins
posted on January 18, 2008 1:22 PM — 70.251.191.250 — link — abuse? said:
War Eagle Atlanta Post #19 say what? Where do you work? If another company or business offered you more money you would say no thank you but my loyality is with my current employer? I work now for Seton Hospital here in Austin. Their rival hospital is Saint David's. If Saint David's offered me more money and the hours I wanted...2 week notice? Seton would get a 2 minute warning alright! They would be warned in 2 minutes that I quit! The reason that many of the pro players are like that is because of the fans. I agree with you. We need to pay our teachers, janitors, and many other service related jobs that "big money".
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 18, 2008 1:22 PM — 76.182.205.22 — link — abuse? said:
@19 War Eagle Amen man i know exactly where you are coming from when it comes to just watching college rather than pro's. People make fun of me, because i know where all the pro players went to college and because i follow the Tennessee Titans, because of all the former longhorns that make up their roster.
Around here everyone is a die hard Dallas Cowboy's fan which is expected. They don't understand how the hell you could like college more than the pro's. Here's a point i argued with a couple of guys with the other day and i want to know what you guy's think.
Is it harder to win a Super Bowl or the National Championship? I say National Championship.
Cane Mutiny
posted on January 18, 2008 1:50 PM — 65.12.247.141 — link — abuse? said:
T-Cane: I think Young is a great hire for the 'Canes. From his work at Kansas, he looks like the kind of coach that knows how to turn around a defensive unit - exactly what we need. Let's hope he can pick up where Shannon left off and bring our defense back to dominance.
Everyone: Enjoy the offseason...personally, I'm starting to follow college basketball more and watching recruiting (only two things we've got going for us at UM!)
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It's great to be a Miami Hurricane!40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 18, 2008 1:56 PM — 76.182.205.22 — link — abuse? said:
Waht would shock the world even more is if the Big 10 picked up Notre Dame like they should have years ago. No University by itself should have their own say in the BCS and their own TV right's.
Just isn't natural.gatorstud said:
posted on January 18, 2008 1:57 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
war eagle atlanta & lennie....i follow my steelers w/ loyalty..but i find it hard to feel that any of these whinny-ass pros deserve the money they get..ridiculous...
i propose that any professional athlete that wants, or feels he deserves more than he currenly makes....then that said athlete should have to go down to the sanitation department of the city in which he plays and explain to those men, who actually work for a living cleaning up the cities garbage, why they deserve so much damn money or even a raise over what they currently make playing a kids game....i am so sick and tired of these "whinny athletes"
case in point alex rodriguez...no freaking way he is worth 250 million....in any way shape or form....
ok..i'm done venting....i need a mountain dew just to settle down...
go gators.....
Zac said:
posted on January 18, 2008 2:22 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
40 Acres of Burnt Orange, WVU has one of the Top-5 Forensics programs in the country. They collaborated with Pitt (another Top-5 program) to develop it and got a winner. He needs to make certain he has a Strong background in Chemistry. The WV St Police like that. Not to mention, have him check out he Physics Dept. They have a general course in Ballistics, which he may find interesting.
I fully agree with you and WarEagle; there's nothing like college sports. I'll look in on the pro's once in a while (I still like Pro-Boxing.), but college is where it's at!!!
I don't know if Martin Luther King had time for sports. Likely he discussed it on occasion. He was a family man who sad with his family at the dinner table; there was no TV distracting them. Don't ask me why, but if he was into sports, I kind of see him as a basketball, baseball, or even boxing fan. Anyway, with the exception of his memory, we have all been diminished with his absence. Just my opinion.
Maurice, if Pitt plays defense the entire season the way they played defense against WVU, I agree; they will win the Big East in 2008. Of course, their defense will have to play even better against, by that time, WVU's veteran offense. You saw what they did to OK, and I don't think Pitt's quite up to OK yet. But we'll see. As with every Pitt/WVU game, it'll be a classic, and I'm actually looking forward to the fact that it's at Heinz Field this coming season. Ya know what they say; pay-back's a beach!!!
posted on January 18, 2008 2:43 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Lennie: I work for myself. Why else do you think I get to post here all day long?? :-)
Let's use your example. Say that you knew every single person that worked at your hospital, or, at least, that they all knew you. Say that they all wanted you to stay and that by leaving, you knew you would disapoint them. Would that make it a little harder for you to leave?
Loyalty is an expensive trait to have, especially when it comes to professional sports. That being said, I don't blame them for taking money thrown in their face. I'm a free-market capitalist. If the money is offered, take it. I have a problem with the system that's offering it, not the employees. Can't say that I personally would want to make a move away from my loyal fans if offered a little more money by someone else, though.
Two good examples from the ATL Braves. A few years ago, Andruw Jones had his contact up. He wanted to stay loyal to Atlanta, so he left his agent out of the negotiations so he wasn't tempted by all the outside offers of richer pastures. some might call that dumb, but I was impressed by his loyalty to the organization. He left some money on the table, but when you're making millions, your happiness has a price, too.
Tom Glavine left the Braves, a team he's been with for 17 years or so, to go to the Mets for a few dollars more. Perhaps his ego was bruised, but he took the money and ran. Years later, he probably regretted what he had done, so at the end of last season, he turned down a much more lucrative offer to stay with the Mets and decided instead to return home to the Braves--full circle. Good. I was tired of booing a guy that I basically liked...
Getting back to my main point, I just refuse to subsidize professional sports with my dollars. It's not only the cost of the tickets, but it's the parking, the souvenirs, the $7 beers and $6 hotdogs. All of it goes into the pot, along with TV revenue, to form the syndicate which ultimately pays out ridiculous money for men playing games--and I'm sick of it.
A few years ago, I really had my voice heard. I was a Neilson household, the TV ratings people. They hooked monitoring devices to all my TVs and literally recorded every show I watched and for how long. Everey night at 3am, the computer phoned home to download there info to the home computer. I can honestly say that I don't think it ever caught we watching any sort of professional sports. Just college football and the history and discovery channels....
40 Acres and Gatorstud: I hear ya. I watch pro football to see former Auburn players and that's about it...
Rammer Jammer said:
posted on January 18, 2008 3:49 PM — 199.89.170.92 — link — abuse?
WE ATL
HA, I thought I was the only human being who only watches Discovery Channel, History Channel, and College Football.
Now I can go home and tell my wife there's someone else like me. If she don't believe me, I'll show her your post(#31).
posted on January 18, 2008 4:05 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Anyone noticed that the fanblogs reader counter jumped from 14,000 the other day to over 77,000 today? Are we in discussion with possible advertisers, Kevin? Now if we could only get the stock market to do that...
I wonder how long after registering that you get removed for lack of activity?
Zac said:
posted on January 18, 2008 4:12 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Post 34: "Gosh, you guys should definitely turn it to FOX Mondays @ 8 p.m. Prisonbreak is the best show in the world."
Out of the mouth of babes...
Actually, Bevo Son, my wife is more into shows like Heroes, The Sarah Conner Chronicles, futuristic & SCI-FI stuff, mixed in with a little CSI. I don't watch any of it much; I don't really have time. When I can catch a documentary on the History Channel, or something regarding Medicine, Space Travel, and other such things on Discovery, I do. Otherwise, it's college sports; primarily hockey, basketball, and FOOTBALL!!!
posted on January 18, 2008 4:15 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Yea, they didn't offer the Military Channel when I was a Nielson household, or the channel would have been glued to that, too.
I watch Dirty Jobs on Discovery and laugh solid for one hour. It's a shame that College Football Blogger isn't a dirty job, or maybe Kevin could get on it. I think Porno Blogger might work, but that's a different kind of dirty.... :-)
Bevo Boy said:
posted on January 18, 2008 4:17 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Zac, that was clearly said by someone who has never watched Prisonbreak. If you did watch it, though, you would probably want to rent the first two seasons or download all of the episodes on iTunes or something. If you don't know what has happened, it seems kind of pointless, but if you do know what's going on, it's amazing.
gatorstud said:
posted on January 18, 2008 4:24 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
bevo boy..didn't they break out of prison already....i have never really seen an entire episode...but i have seen them in cars..in barns and in houses after the have broken out of prison..so with that..the name should change also...
this week on Barn Break....
or this week on Car Escape.....
sound stupid?????well so does tattooing a map of a prison on your back....
why call it prison break..when they broke out of prison two seasons ago....
sorry..but lame...
all i know is that the mountain dew isn't working..i'm still gettting all rilled up...
seinfeld re-runs still rule.....
ga gators...
Rammer Jammer said:
posted on January 18, 2008 4:28 PM — 199.89.170.92 — link — abuse?
Bevo
If you want to watch a good prison show, tune in to Nat Geo, History Channel, or Discovery. One of those three have a real life prison show. It'll be much more educational than the garbage you see on the 4 big networks.
WE ATL and KevMy wife says it's weird that a 28 year old man watches the aformentioned channels. However, she reads those mindless celebrity gossip mags.; so what does she know.
Bevo Boy said:
posted on January 18, 2008 4:34 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
gatorstud, after the Fox River 8 (what they call the 8 that broke out of Fox River) escaped, some of them were caught and thrown into different prisons. How would it be realistic if one man could get 8 people out of prison and keep any of them from getting caught (he actually preferred that some of them were caught, but had to let them join)? The tatoo is the only realistic way that he could remember everything to make the escape possible and I don't see how it's stupid. If your brother (I don't know if you have one, but you must have someone close to you that is male and still alive) was framed for murder because he couldn't pay a $90,000 debt that he used to put you through college and was on death row, wouldn't you feel obligated to do anything in your power to help him?
gatorstud said:
posted on January 18, 2008 4:40 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
bevo boy..yeah i would help him as much as i could..but i wouldn't break him out of prison..cause then..we'd both be in there...cause in real life...people who break out....usually get caught....
serenity now....serenity now....serenity now.....
go gators....
Bevo Boy said:
posted on January 18, 2008 4:44 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
gatorstud, breaking him out of prison bought enough time for new information to be brought forward that exonerated him. They finally got someone to talk and save his life. Then, just you'd be in there, and you wouldn't be put to death like he would have been.
FanoftheGame said:
posted on January 18, 2008 4:44 PM — 198.211.223.194 — link — abuse?
Sports, Discovery and National Geographic all work for me. I'm sure there are a lot of other good programming out there by those three are all I need.
Bevo you seem to have an almost sick love for this prison break show. But hey, I'm not going to knock it because I don't watch it. But if any of you guys start pushing "The View", "Oprah" or "Desperate Housewives" then I think Kev should seriously think about dropping you from the blog.
FanoftheGame said:
posted on January 18, 2008 4:52 PM — 198.211.223.194 — link — abuse?
Gatorstud...
If you don't stop now, we might be in for a complete recap of the last 2 seasons, IN DETAIL!
PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!......LMAO. Sorry, to be a party pooper, Bevo..., but Lassie just said that Timmy fell into a well and needs our help.Bevo Boy said:
posted on January 18, 2008 5:02 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Although, if you really want to you, I guess it all started when the father of Michael and Lincoln (the two brothers) left to work for an organization referred to only as "The Company" that controls everything that United States does as a country. Once he quit "The Company", they hand-picked Lincoln because it would bring his father out of hiding and he already had plenty of trouble with the law.
Just kidding, that's all the more detail I'll put into it, unless...
Bama Babe said:
posted on January 18, 2008 5:36 PM — 70.146.233.215 — link — abuse?
I know this is a college blog and that most of you believe the NFL is a league full of greedy men (I'm not disagreeing), but since there are only 3 more games of football this season, and since yall are talking about tv shows and "cliff-notes" for tv shows, I gonna just throw it out there.....
GO PACKERS!!!
Anyone? :)
posted on January 18, 2008 5:44 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Rammer: I'd rather watch TV that you can at least learn something from instead of this mindless dribble they generally present to us. Some of the things I've learned? I never want to go crab fishing on the Bering Sea nor clean out septic tanks. It's really useful knowledge...
I do admit to having a weakness for the cop dash camera shows on Court TV, but after an hour or two, they all seem the same. That and the announcer severely over-estimates the speed of the cars in the chase. Maybe 40 Acres can shed some light on this, but the announcer guy will be saying "the the chase got up to 100 mph" when the guy barely looked like he was doing 50.
That and all the cheesy foley-sounds they insert on footage that originally had no sound recorded...
TampaGator said:
posted on January 18, 2008 5:59 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
I can't stand any show that doesn't start and end on the same night. These roll-over shows (eg. Prison break, Lost, Desperate Housewives, 24, virtually any reality show...) are ALL f%$&n soap operas--perhaps of a different species, but all of the same genus.
Contrast that, with Law & Order. IMO, there's a reason it's the most successful TV franchise in history:
Every show has a definite begining, and end;
Every last episode stands alone; none builds on the other;
None of the characters get(s) tangled up in relationships with another (which serve only to cloud the actual plot lines (e.g. ER));
You miss an episode, you're not lost the next time you tune in;
As with all successful brands, you know what you're getting, when you tune in (i.e. consume);
They don't use (b/c they don't need to) cheap tricks-like relationships, sex, or keeping viewers in suspense from week to week--to keep viewers tuning in;
Good guys don't always win, truth doesn't always prevail...very realistic...
L&O...and sports.
History and discovery cool too; However, I actually try to stay away from those two--because once I get sucked in to one of those shows, I'm hooked 'till like 3 AM...knowing all there is to know about some obscure conspiracy theory about something that happened in the middle ages...or some equally obscure species of insect prevalent in northeast central Africa...
...not good.
My $.02.
GO GATORS!!TampaGator said:
posted on January 18, 2008 6:14 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Bama Babe:
I alway wondered who pirated the "G" from whom (UGA or Green Bay). Rather puzzling because...
...IT'S FREAK'N LAME!!!
(whether it's the Pac or the Dawgs) Hell, if you're going to pirate a symbol, at least steal something elaborate, and worth stealing...
...like say, Michigan stealing the three striped and winged--whatever the hell that is--from Deleware.
I'll give the Pac and UGA this much though; as lame as that G is, both of those teams have some of the most loyal fans in sports.
GO GATORS!!
Zac said:
posted on January 18, 2008 7:33 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
WarEagle, a little help here. Bama Babe said, "GO Packers". That's a woman after my own heart. I've been a Packers fan ever since I met Bart Star & Ray Nitschke (Yes, that was more than a little while ago.). Now, if'n ya wanna laugh, get this. My dad (Understand; I was born and raised in up-state NY, as was he.) is a Vikings fan. Ask me if that didn't result in some interesting debates.
Bevo Dude, we get the picture. Prisonbreak is a cool show. This is college football; it's time to move on. (God bless him, already...)
Bevo Boy said:
posted on January 18, 2008 8:22 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Oh, come on, Zac, it was a dull day in the off-season. Here, let me change the subject to one that I found interesting from SNL: who would you pick in a fight, Mike Ditka or a hurricane? But wait, before you answer, the hurrican is named Ditka.
wvu_lifer
posted on January 19, 2008 12:22 AM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
#9 WarEagle
College football is great and i agree with you 100% about whining millionaires. There is another "true" sport, Hockey! I don't know if you've evr watched a game, but it has everything cfb does, and these guys don't stop playing unless a limb is missing. Then between periods, they'll have it sewed back on, and they'll be back out on the ice. NO whiners in hockey!
wvu_lifer
posted on January 19, 2008 5:04 AM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
Well, our "classless admin" as many have called it (myself included) took a step in the right direction yesterday. They held up yet ANOTHER end of R2s contract.
He was due bonus' for winning the Big East and a BCS birth. They paid him in full yesterday. Trying to save face? Maybe, but the ball truely is his COURT now.Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 19, 2008 10:15 AM — 76.114.222.200 — link — abuse?
wvu_lifer,
Trying to save face? How about: The incentive was paid to Dickie for winning the Big East and getting to a BCS game was in his CONTRACT?! Wow, there's a concept.....no?I guess honor and integrity have no business in College Football today.......according to the X-Box crowd at least. I bet that they would even notice that their basement apartments are leaking?
Lennie Collins
posted on January 19, 2008 11:00 AM — 70.251.191.250 — link — abuse? said:
War Eagle Atlanta Post #31, Excuse me for the late response. Payday for bill collectors and ex-wife NOT me! Yes, I would leave because we can remain friends but the cost of living will always continue to rise! I agree with you their are a few pro players where the cash does not control them or I should say the desire to have more. Every time we, yes that includes you and I buy the team's gear we are supporting them. I want to take my son to see Oklahoma at Baylor in October. That is probably gone cost me at least $120. Waco is about 1 1/2 drive north of Austin. The gas cost is included!
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 19, 2008 11:29 AM — 76.114.222.200 — link — abuse?
Shut me down? Wow, you're clearly delusional at best.
How is me making a reference to someone HONORING a contract put into place and then you getting on here and backing that statement up with your post numbered 78 shutting me down?
I'd still like to hear the "6" donor names you talked about? You posted I think 4 names??? Not 6.All of those names are "hearsay".....and have yet to be classified as legit donors who "have" or are going to "stop" their donations.....
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 19, 2008 11:35 AM — 76.114.222.200 — link — abuse?
Oh yeah, "ranting"?
You're the one on here ranting......I'm just merely coming here to try and bail you out or at least steer you into the right direction before there is no "turning back" on this ADMIN agenda thing you're ranting on.......
Just remember wvu_lifer.....When all the chips fall you're on Dickie's side.....You're making the bed....and you're going to have to sleep in it too.
wvu_lifer
posted on January 19, 2008 11:37 AM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
Diggs, what??? Uh, clearly you're insane.
I stated the fact that WVU paid him yesterday for winning the Big East and a BCS bowl birth, right?
See #75 As far as the six, yes, i named four and posted an article as to where six was derived, or can you not remember. I also asked you for the 3 that we regained, still haven't heard from ya on that. Put up or shut-up, BOY!!Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 19, 2008 11:47 AM — 76.114.222.200 — link — abuse?
You're clearly lost or retarded either way?.......I think you need to read your post over.
You said: That maybe we are trying to save face by paying Dickie what was in his contract....right?
I come on here to say: "Trying to save face? How about: The incentive was paid to Dickie for winning the Big East and getting to a BCS game was in his CONTRACT?! Wow, there's a concept.....no?"
You know? WVU HONORING and PAYING Dickie what was in his CONTRACT was my point there in that statement. I don't know how to make it any more clearer for you than that?
WE are HONORING "our" part of the Contract by paying him what was set into place.....Dickie is not coming off of that first installment of 1.3 million though.....It was due on the 17th. Still no check from him.....
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 19, 2008 11:52 AM — 192.91.75.30 — link — abuse? said:
Hey Diggs and wvu_lifer aren't both you guy's WVU fans? Generally team's fan's stick together. Now yall play nice don't make me have to seperate you 2 again damnit!
40 Acres felt a little humor to brighten everyone's day was warranted.
wvu_lifer
posted on January 19, 2008 11:58 AM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
Thx 40 acres, this guy doesn't get what i meant. My original post stated "Our admin stepped up and did the right thing by honoring his contract", the same contract that he hired lawyers and publicly stated he was going to fight. That's all i said. The Diggs (man it is saturday, you don't have scool, i forgot) got on here and started blasting away.
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 19, 2008 12:03 PM — 192.91.75.30 — link — abuse? said:
I see what you mean. I don't know all the minor details, but i do know that rod got a huge contract extension last year and a 4 mil escape clause penalty which was put there so rod wouldn't bolt or at least think twice about it. But Michigan is Michigan and there aren't too many coaches who would not want to coach in Ann Arbor.
I don't blame Rod for leaving in that way. Plus i feel bad about how many WVU fans are trashing him and his family when just a couple of months ago (before the pitt game) he was beloved. Them fans kind of remind me of like a psychotic ex- girlfriend. But i do think he should have to pay the 4 million, because it is part of the contract. Unless you can show just cause as to why it should be voided.
posted on January 19, 2008 12:03 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Lifer Hatfield, Diggs McCoy, stop this fueding right now!!!!
Lennie: You can drive all the way to Waco from the People's Republic of Austin and get two into the game for under $120? Hell, I might join you if it's that cheap. My bar tab runs that on game days...
Lifer: Actually, hockey is pretty interesting to watch live. I've seen a few Thrashers games. There's something about the game that just doesn't translate onto TV. But alas, if hockey got too big like the other three, it would suffer the same fate...
wvu_lifer
posted on January 19, 2008 12:10 PM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
Lifer_Hatfield, I love it!!
40 Acres, i would take the job at UM, if i were qualified and were offered(ya know what i mean?).
I don't think the people are angry that he left, just the manner in which he did. I agree, people need to leave his family alone. We have a coach and we still have a team, let's focus on next year and the frightening opener with Auburn!!
What a great lead in, #93 War Eagle:
Yeah, if got too big, i wouldn't watch anymore. I gave up on baseball and basketball and my Pro football team stinks!
I've been to around 40 Penguins games, and you are correct, not a TV sport
Peace40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 19, 2008 12:10 PM — 192.91.75.30 — link — abuse? said:
I hear you wvu_lifer i get kind of angry whenever a horn's fan comes on here and try's to blast Mack Brown considering everything he has done for our program. So i can fell where both of you guy's are coming from.
posted on January 19, 2008 12:23 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Normally, you leave the family bickering for the homer sites--you want to keep a united front on here for appearances. I've taken many a young Auburn fan back of the woodshed for making stupid comments on our homer sites. You admonish them because you want them to see the light, though...
But fans of the same school are allowed to disagree. I remember when Rammer Jammer and Sweet Home Alabama got into it about a month ago.
Come on, Eers fans. You got the mighty Auburn Tigers coming into Milan Puskar in less than 9 months. You better be ready!
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 19, 2008 12:23 PM — 192.91.75.30 — link — abuse? said:
If anyone is interested or bored enough yall need to click that little helmet next to my name and head over to burntorangenation.com and read the "Staying Classy in San Diego" one of my drunk buddies wrote about his day at the Holiday Bowl this year. It was amusing to say the least. Just a thought.......
wvu_lifer
posted on January 19, 2008 12:27 PM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
I'd even like to go as far as (and i can't wait for the replies to this) thank R2 for building our program up to the National level. He did a great job while he was her, and in 2 or 3 years, he'll be doing wonders in A2. Thanks Rod.
Now with that said, all i want to know is, does anyone have a clue who WVU is looking at for the OC? That's my major worry, not the past!!
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 19, 2008 12:45 PM — 192.91.75.30 — link — abuse? said:
Thanks Kev because i was arguing with a couple of my friends on burntorangenation.com and we all fell the same way. That Texas should retire #10, but they said no, because he didn't win the Heisman which we all know now he should have won especially now that all of this is coming out about Reggie Bush taking money. No matter what Heisman or not Vince did a lot for Texas and it's a shame that someone that contributed so much doesn't get honored accordingly.
I have been watching Vince play since he was a junior at James Madison High, and it's such a treat to have been able to see him through his whole transition, but such a shame that a stupid tradition would keep any other Longhorn from wearing the number 10.
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on January 19, 2008 1:01 PM — 74.185.133.40 — link — abuse?
#102: 40 Acres of B.O...
I certainly don't think that the Heisman or any other trophy is required for a player's number to be retired or honored in some other way (e.g. "Ring of Honor"). Here's a different question and it's one I've changed opinion on a couple of times...
Should a player have been enrolled at the school for all four years of their eligibility to be considered for number retirement?
My opinion has shifted on this subject due to Emmitt Smith who played three years at UF.
FWIW, Vince Young ROCKS!! UT would not have won the NC game without him and they should definitely retire his number.
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 19, 2008 1:04 PM — 192.94.94.106 — link — abuse? said:
Amen Ramblin. I honestly don't think you have to be at the school for 4 years to get your number retired. Because there are a lot of guys with retired numbers who left after their junior year. I mean Texas is gonna retire Kevin Durant's basketball number and he was only at Texas for a year!
wvu_lifer
posted on January 19, 2008 1:31 PM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
Uh BOY, the topic was we lost 6 and gained three. I read that article long ago. I proved my point, you are still blowing smoke. I never once said we were going to go broke or that ALL donors were leaving. Now, go back re-read and prove me wrong. You still haven't produced a single name.
Keep barkin little doggie!
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 19, 2008 1:49 PM — 76.114.222.200 — link — abuse?
Your post regarding the ADMIN was absolutely portraying them as inept businessmen who had lost support of Big-time donors due to them letting Dickie go....... Thus the "We're doomed" approach you took has been quickly shot down by facts that are presented for all here to read....
The article even states that Mr. Reynolds has "not" stopped supporting us......So there's another "Big-Time" donor you had tried to include to your group of non-givers who has clearly continued to donate.
wvu_lifer
posted on January 19, 2008 1:54 PM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
As i stated, i prefer to speak to the educated ones who frequent this site, and apparently you did not see Kevin's request.
If you like, there is another fan site we can go to, you can challenge me to a "throwdown". It's mediated by an unbiased person. No more mouth running on here!Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 19, 2008 1:54 PM — 76.114.222.200 — link — abuse?
What unjust attacks?
You must mean me exposing your ignorance to the WVU Athletic program?
"Read the article long ago".....I guess Jan 18th 2008 is considered ancient history to WVU-lifer??It's alright to admit that you're in the dark when it comes to the program buddy......You don't have to "make up" things or go off of what your Uncles friends brother told you and then come here and try to pass it off as "fact".
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 19, 2008 2:01 PM — 76.114.222.200 — link — abuse?
I read Kevins post and I don't think he's referring to me posting the facts here.....
That site is Rivals and Fanblogs.....If you want to go? I'll see you there.....
I don't fool with Scout or any other amatuerish sites and blogs....So come to where the Big-Boys play...wvu_lifer
posted on January 19, 2008 2:07 PM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
Ok, good luck, i'm undefeated!!!
http://www.fannation.com
Create your little profile and get back with me, i'll stick around to humiliate ya!
Yes, Kevin was addressing BOTH of us!Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 19, 2008 2:15 PM — 76.114.222.200 — link — abuse?
Like I said.....I don't fool around with amateurish sites.....
Undefeated at what "lying or making stuff up" and then trying to pass it off as if you know something? Well, in that case....you probably are "undefeated". You're a funny guy......
Why don't you try The Blue Lot on Rivals.....it's the WVU premiere Athletic site which has members that "actually know" what is happening within the program.
wvu_lifer
posted on January 19, 2008 2:21 PM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
I go by the same name on that site. It does not however have mediators for an argument, which you are so desperately seeking............susan!
Also, Mr Reynolds was the one that stated that about our admin, that whole piece was him being quoted. Once again, i'm not wrong. Can you not see quotations?
Yet i still wait for just 1 name, that all i wanted was just 1 name, but no, she wouldn't give it to me, lol!
I'm done with you on here, go back to your cabin in the woods, hug your sheep and have all the incest your kids will allow!
Goodbye!!!!Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 19, 2008 2:32 PM — 76.114.222.200 — link — abuse?
Wow, you really are warped....A West Virginian stereo-typing another West Virginian.....
You are the very reason that the people of our state have to endure all the negative publicity....
You're seeking attention....for some odd reason?You're obviously still in high-school or a freshman in college with comments like that.
I've grown and matured since my first attempts at posting on the Internet......Maybe someday...you will too?wvu_lifer
posted on January 19, 2008 2:40 PM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
You won't, unless you A) be civil B)Don't judge someone you don't know unless you're prepared to meet them face to face.
I've gone through ALL of your putrid diatribe on here. You do not make sense. Go back and look for yourself. I find it hard to believe you, ma'am are a TRUE West "By God" Virginian! Oh, where are those names for the 50th freakin time!!I've had nothing but pleasant conversations untill you came along, so i wouldn't say i'm the one tarnishing MY state!
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 19, 2008 2:47 PM — 76.114.222.200 — link — abuse?
I never felt the need to come here and call out any WVU Fans who were making an ass out of themselves until I seen a few of your posts on here.......You know nothing about the programs situation.....
"1 name"?
Donations are at "RECORD LEVELS" what names do you need? You came here talking about how since Dickie is gone our program will be losing "Big-time" donors...did you not?
Who cares about a couple of piss-baby donors? The contributions have "never" been better!Which again.....proves that you really didn't know what you were talking about concerning Boosters.
wvu_lifer
posted on January 19, 2008 2:53 PM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
I took a quote from Mr. Reynolds and reposted. I did say we may lose boosters, and we have. I did not say we would not gain more. Once again proving your reading skills are as inept as your people skills.
I NEVER dogged WVU, just the Admin, and if you're in the dark, they're no angels.
Where am i wrong, where are you right?
Yes, 3 weeks later, you may be able to FIND a random name. However, the names i posted came from another boosters mouth.
Lay off the shine!Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 19, 2008 3:10 PM — 76.114.222.200 — link — abuse?
wvu_lifer,
You came on here blasting the ADMIN basically pinning it all on them...I'll even remind you.You came on here and said these things:
"well they let RR walk out over some seriously minor issues.",
"They "forced" him out.",
"Then, they managed to lose several TOP boosters in the progressor as our admin is, maybe they're, uh, just lost",
Minor issues? Might I remind you that he was constantly testing the waters looking for new jobs? He was the highest paid State employee in WV, a new Locker Room is in the works, Study Facility, and his contract was just renegotiated. What more do you need to be happy?I'd get tired of it too if I (the ADMIN)had shelled out a lot of cash to keep him in the months prior and he instead of appreciating that and trying to win Football Games.... he's talking with Michigan "BEFORE" the Pitt game. He even talked with Arkansas before Petrino took the job....But you wouldn't know anything about that now would you?
You mention that we lost several top boosters but failed to bring up the fact that contributions to the program have never been higher...Which inturn leaves the average reader to assume that we are "doomed" as far as donors go
. That's the very reason why I came here and called you out. Tell both sides of the story.....
These last few years have "never" been better concerning all WVU Athletics.....Do you think that a Football Coach is responsible for that?
It's the ADMIN pal.....Where have you ever shown that you know anything that pertains to WVU Atletics???
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 19, 2008 3:20 PM — 76.114.222.200 — link — abuse?
Oh man you're good wvu_lifer.....So good in fact that you just made yourself look like a total moron......
This is how you spell "Amateurish"
I love it when message board police make themselves look like idiots.IS that all you got now.....Like I said...You're a funny guy....
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on January 19, 2008 3:25 PM — 76.114.222.200 —
1st_and_NOLE
said:
posted on January 18, 2008 8:29 AM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse?I'll start by saying... oh crap. I got nothing.
Just keeping my eye on the Noles recruiting class. It's not looking half bad. Hopefully we close strong, we do historically.