October 3, 2005
Fire Meyer?
Even after a weekend when his offense and defense were both exposed as under-prepared, I find it hard to fathom that there are Florida Gator fans ready to have head coach Urban Meyer removed from his job. But as hard as it is to believe you can see the evidence for yourself right here. This says alot more about the class and commitment of the Gator fan base than we realize. Its amazing that they could turn on a coach this quickly.
Most of the criticism centers on the complete breakdown of Meyer's offense against a well-coached Alabama team, that read and reacted and blew up most everything the Gators tried to run on the offensive side of the ball. Of course, the embarrassing blowout in Tuscaloosa aside, the man has been on the job less than a year and he deserves at least a chance to have success.
Just a note, it looks like the site got so much traffic today it had to be shutdown.
Comments:
El Scorcho said:
posted on October 3, 2005 10:51 AM — 70.36.52.111 — link — abuse?
This is sickening. They thought he was going to turn around this undiscplined team really quickly. Losing Ray McDonald was a big loss, and you finally saw the mental breakdown of Coach Meyer in this game. They had no answer for Bama. Give it up not even Steve Spurrier could have beaten the Tide on Saturday. Florida fans are sick.
posted on October 3, 2005 11:04 AM — link — abuse?Kevin Donahue said:
Dang, Pez. We're busted.
That site does have one funny quote though: "sub-Urban"
Volsfan1742 said:
posted on October 3, 2005 12:25 PM — 66.0.232.179 — link — abuse?
I dont neccesarilly think it was Urban Myer's fault that Florida got drilled Saturday. I think it had a lot to do with Florida sucking. They aren't any good. So they beat a Tennessee team with QB issues. No leader, unprepared, and inexperienced with only one game under their belt. And they only managed one touchdown. Tennessee beat them up and down the field. I believe that all the talk of Tennessee going 7-4 should be aimed at Florida. Because LSU, Georgia, and Florida St. are going to kill Florida. Urban Myer's offense might have worked against the "WAC" and all those weak west coast teams but that bull crap isn't happening in the SEC.
Big Dog said:
posted on October 3, 2005 12:42 PM — 64.90.198.61 — link — abuse?
Volsfan1742. Hey bitter Vols fan. You may want to reconsider your statement about all those weak west coast teams..considering that one of the weak west coast teams would be USC. Which has won or tied for the National Championship for the last couple years and are on track to get number three this year.
Volsfan1742 said:
posted on October 3, 2005 12:52 PM — 66.0.232.179 — link — abuse?
I am not referring to USC obviously. And I take that statement back, there are some good west coast teams, not many but some. But did Urban Myer beat USC no. So obviously I wasn't talking about them. And I am not bitter. I'm just saying that Florida was ridiculously over rated. Anyone who watches them play can see that they are not a top 10 caliber team. Tennessee gives no reason to be ranked in the top 10 either. We beat LSU yes, but other than the second half of that game, we haven't looked like a top 10 team yet.
chris said:
posted on October 3, 2005 2:01 PM — 216.106.72.33 — link — abuse?
It is obviously way to early to even consider firing Coach Meyer, Period. Give him a couple of years, we gave Zook three. My main concern is the running game. It seems that we run up the middle about every two or three plays, why is that? What happened to the defense? Why do we need two defensive coaches? Should we consider firing Coach Strong? Let me know what you guys think.
J.C. Beeson said:
posted on October 3, 2005 2:15 PM — 84.166.75.199 — link — abuse?
It never ceases to amaze me how quickly the nay-sayers come out of the woodwork when someone falls on bad days.
Urban Meyer is not playing 22+ positions on the field. He is not an infallible robot with the answer to every question or problem on the football field. He is not clairvoyant, he cannot tell you what the opponent is going to do any better than us armchair QBs. He does not claim to be the next Bear/Bo/Woody. All those misnomers come from the media and the fans. Here is what Urban Meyer is:
He is an innovator.
He is a motivator.
He is a discipliarian.
He is a Florida Gator.
He is NOT Ron Zook.Right now, he is working with Zook recruits, which for the most part is great. But the big mismatch is Meyer-Leak. Although CL is a good pocket passer, he gets rattled easily and lacks toughness. Meyer is used to dealing with a Young or a Vick at the helm of the offense.
Within two years from now all the Negative Nancy's will be quieted. All the talk about how the spread won't work in the SEC is absurd.
We got whipped. No doubt. We were disrupted from the beginning, never got settled, and that cost us... but to say that this is an omen, that based on this one game Urban and the Gators are doomed is flippin' outrageous.
Steve Spurrier was 9-2 his first year at UF, losing to Tennessee and FSU. He barely beat 'Bama, 17-13. Spurrier has never EVER in 15+ years in college football had an undefeated season, even at Duke. Urban has one in 4. Give the guy a freakin' chance to finish a damned season before throwing stones.
With this loss a very definitive line has shown up between two types of Florida fans: the grateful and the spoiled. I'm glad to see that there are much more of the former. For those surrounding themselves with the new anit-Meyer site, For Shame. You shouldn't call yourselves Gator fans.
And at the end of the day, I am proud to say that Urban Meyer is *MY* head coach.
VOLPIMP said:
posted on October 3, 2005 6:58 PM — 208.0.27.10 — link — abuse?
Anybody who thought Florida would come in and run the table in the SEC just because of Meyer's spread offense needs to look at the facts. Florida was horrible last year, they didn't really change much this year, except coaching philosophies and a different system. Bama shut them down with good, disciplined D. Smash mouth ball, a Bama trademark. UF isn't the UF we're used to seeing, as is the case with UT as well. Bama will likely pound us the same way. And playing in ANY major conference, not just the SEC, is way different than what Meyer has seen so far as a Head Coach. The system isn't the problem, adapting it to faster, bigger defenses is the key. (Playing a little D of your own helps)Don't count Florida out yet, they are still a dangerous team.
posted on October 3, 2005 9:10 PM — link — abuse?
FWIW, Barry, Fanblogs was started in April 2003.
Tide Fan said:
posted on October 4, 2005 7:51 AM — 65.73.15.151 — link — abuse?
Hi, I'm a tide fan and i just wanted to say that Florida is not a bad team, they were just exposed at every weak point by one team. every team has weak point, they just hope that one team does not exploit to many of them. Bama knew that FL had o-line issue having already given up 12-13 sacks, so they pressured Leak. Bama knew that a stay at home D is the only answer to all the reverses and misdirection that meyers O does. On O, bama knew the Gaters played tight bump and run, so bame threw slants and posts to the inside of the coverage, it just so happend that FL secondary had it's wost tackling day ever. FL was beaten the tuesday before the game when AL's schem was completed. the coaches knew they had the talent to pul off the schem, but i doubt they expected it to work as well as it did. FL is not a bad team, and meyer does not deserve to be fired, because his O-schem has been so publicized that if any D-coordanater can't schem againts it by now then he shoud be fired. Meyer is a victim of the media constantly talking about his O. Bama just listen and played accordingly.
thadbme said:
posted on October 4, 2005 8:30 AM — 132.38.190.10 — link — abuse?
Well I went to a little bit of research to try to find out who owns this website only to hit a brick wall. If y'all want to pound on the door so to speak here you go. It looks like the domain name was purchased by godaddy.com, then from there it was registered by www.domainsbyproxy.com. That is where the trail ends because domains by proxy protects the information name. I did find out that the website was purchased on Nov 20, 2004, and it goes back up for sale on Nov 20, 2006. So my guess is its probably not a UF fan, just someone who wants to stir up controversy.
thadbme said:
posted on October 4, 2005 8:35 AM — 132.38.190.10 — link — abuse?
Oh also if you REALLY want to stir some stuff up, I suggest mailing him at the address listed by domains by proxy. Reason being there is a forwarding fee associated with mail delivered. I'll bet if they got a bunch of letters all of the sudden with fee's associated you would see either the website disapear, or their true identify revealed.
Barry Manilow said:
posted on October 4, 2005 9:40 AM — 199.43.32.85 — link — abuse?
Thanks thad. Meyer wasn't hired by UF until Dec. 4th, and Tyrone Willingham wasn't fired from Notre Dame until Nov. 22nd, so at the time nobody knew where Meyer would be coaching. That site was not started by anyone associated with UF.
deo in sin city said:
posted on October 4, 2005 1:31 PM — 68.108.117.180 — link — abuse?
Exactly the point TIDEFAN, these people who are calling for Meyer's head way too early don't watch football games, they just watch the scoreboards. Don't forget people this is the same Urban Meyer that took Utah to a major bowl game last year. And asking for his head after less than half of a season after one loss is completely ludicruous. If I was a Gator fan, I would find the guy who started that site and beat the hell out of that guy. First of all that person is not a gator fan, and second he does not "know" football, philosophically.
Fight On Men of Troy.
Fred said:
posted on October 4, 2005 8:00 PM — 70.119.12.203 — link — abuse?
Also, let's remember Spurrier's 1st season when he went to Tennessee and everything fell apart. They ended up blowing out their remaining SEC opponents and winning the SEC. (I don't recognize BS sanctions for that year). This is a team not used to winning consistently and it showed. It didn't help that the retard (I can't remember who it was) talked about how Ala's team was not as talented as Tenn's team. What an idiot. He fired them up big time. Keep your mouth shut and play. Trash talk only inspires the other team.
That is all.Normtide said:
posted on October 6, 2005 7:57 PM — 12.219.144.131 — link — abuse?
The one thing noone here has thought about is this.Alabama is a pretty good team.We have our typical strong defense (most decent sec teams do), and now our offense is on track. It's not like he lost to South Florida. Granted the Gators looked unready, and maybe they were a little over confident, but what college team has not feel into that trap. I am an old school sec fan, and I can tell you that ANY sec team can beat you if you are not ready. ROLL TIDE, we beat the gators, but Florida does not want to get into the coach swapping game.
GOBUCKS! said:
posted on October 7, 2005 12:34 AM — 166.102.118.144 — link — abuse?
COACH MYER HAS A GREAT DISCIPLINE PHILOSOPHY. THIS IS THE 1ST YEAR IN QUITE A WHILE NON OF THE GATORS HAVE VISITED THE ALACHUA CO. JAIL. THATS A GOOD START. AND WE CANNOT JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT HIS OFFENSIVE SCHEME WILL WORK UNTIL HE HAS TIME TO FILL THE ROSTER WITH THE TYPE OF PLAYERS HIS OFFENSE REQUIRES. CHRIS LEAK IS NOT THE ONE. ITS A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE SITUATION. LEAK IS NOT A LEADER. PERIOD. YOU EITHER ARE OR YOU'RE NOT. HE HAS NOT SHOWN MUCH IMPROVEMENT IN THAT AREA SINCE HE FIRST STEPPED ONTO THE FIELD THREE YEARS AGO. HE'S TIMID. AND FOR SOME REASON HE ALWAYS HAS THE DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS LOOK AFTER A BONEHEAD PLAY. FACT IS JOSH PORTIS HAS A BETTER CHANCE OF BEING THE MAN THAN LEAK. IF LEAK WANTS TO THRIVE, HE SHOULD TRANSFER TO SOUTH CAROILINA.
OFFENSIVE LINE IS NON-EXISTENT ( WOW ZOOK'SA GREAT RECRUITER) SEEMS TO ME HE FILLED THE GATOR ROSTER WITH FINESSE PLAYERS AND DIDNT GET ENOUGH QUALITY LINEMEN WHICH IS THE CORNERSTONE TO A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM. GATOR FANS--HAVE A COLD ONE ITS GONNA BE ANOTHER LONG YEAR.DIESELGATOR55 said:
posted on October 7, 2005 8:58 AM — 65.121.198.243 — link — abuse?
Gator nation, face one undeniable fact: if you play in the SEC, you're bound to face a loss or two in conference play each and every year...period. The Gators were beaten by an Alabama team that played inspired, well-planned football, and at times luck was on their side....While I would have enjoyed seeing my orange and blue trounce the tide (or at least find the end zone a time or two) I for one am pleased to see Alabama climbing back into the ranks of the elite. It's good for college football fans, and good for the SEC. The SEC seemed unbalanced without a powerhouse Tide team....it serves to further reinforce the SEC's bid as the toughest conference in college ball. Given time, Coach Meyer will in fact lead Florida teams to the SEC title game and beyond......Florida fans were treated to a free-for-all in the 90's and we were spoiled. Unfortunately, today's college football environment is one in which a one or two loss season is a failure.....it's ridiculous. One thing is for sure, regardless of the outcome of last week's game, there still aren't any teams or fans in the country that will look at the UF date on the season schedule without those butterflies in the stomach.
G8TRDAVE said:
posted on October 7, 2005 9:09 AM — 167.64.47.33 — link — abuse?
THANK YOU GOBUCKS! At last, someone who recognizes the problem with the Gators. I have been a die-hard Gator for 20 years, but I am also a realist. Coach Meyer DOES NOT have the right personnel on the field to run his offense. Chris leak could be a better quarterback, if the o-line gave protection. For Meyer to run his offense, he needs 330lb linemen with a option quarterback. Meyer is a quality coach, and I am proud to have him at UF. Look for a change in the O-scheme for the rest of the season to accomodate our weaknesses, and UF will prevail. I predict a 10-2 season, which is'nt bad - for a first year coach! Go Gators!
G8TRDAVE said:
posted on October 7, 2005 9:19 AM — 167.64.47.33 — link — abuse?
I must add something to my last post - hats off to Alabama - they had a great plan & they executed to near perfection. And DIESELGATOR55 is right, it is TOUGH to get through a season in the SEC with out a loss*. If the Gators can get past LSU, I believe they can beat UGA & you might very well see a re-match with UF-AL for the SEC. I highly doubt that you will see such a lop-sided win in a re-match on neutral site, as we witnessed last Sat. in Tuscalussa.
(* See University of Florida - 1995-1996 season)
pimpdaddy said:
posted on October 7, 2005 9:38 AM — 66.26.85.103 — link — abuse?
Meyer has underachieved with the offense, however theres still time left in the season to turn it around. The SEC is a tough conference and throw in FSU; plus Meyer does not have much experience about dealing with competition week in and week out. He coached out west, where they play weak teams and get lucky every once and a while against a legitamate opponent, see also USC. Gators will rebound!
G8TRDAVE said:
posted on October 7, 2005 9:45 AM — 167.64.47.33 — link — abuse?
I agree with ya pimpdaddy - look, Gators seaon is definately not over because of one loss. You look at the schedule - they have to play LSU away from the Swamp, but all other games look promising. Georgia is neutral, and the Gators have had there way withthe dawgs. You remember last year, the Gators just ran out of time, b'cuz they were on the comeback to win that one. They have FSU at home - Spurrier/Cocks in SC, but I think they can pull off a win. They still have a chance at the SEC.
Gatorgirl said:
posted on October 15, 2005 4:39 PM — 70.188.238.155 — link — abuse?
Meyer has to go. He doesn't seem to understand that this is the SEC - real football. His spread offense doesn't work here. All he's done is brought humiliation to the Gator Nation.
Everyone hated Ron Zook, but at least we could score. Meyer needs to go back where he came from, and I hope he goes soon. This season is shot, but there's always next year.
hdchuck said:
posted on October 15, 2005 8:12 PM — 24.99.201.46 — link — abuse?
What a miserable showing against LSU - there was NO Offense.
As far as Chris Leak goes he was the #1 high school QB in the nation when he was recruited. He may not have won under Zook due to poor coaching but he put up a lot of yards and points. Meyer is killing this kid's career - rather than exploiting his talents he is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
Leak held up to "smash mouth" SEC football the last 2 years and put up some great numbers - with no embarassments like the Alabama game and today's offense-less LSU game.
Meyer's "my way or the highway" is not exploiting his resources. Spurrier may have had the same philosophy, but he won with it, and actually "coached" his QBs.
All the media and coaches know his offense won't work in the SEC, the players are too fast and the spread option takes too long to develop. Meyer is the only one who hasn't gotten it yet. Its too late to come up with a new offensive scheme this year unless he pulls out Spurrier's old play books, but needs to take a long hard look at his plan for next year - or he may end up moving again - to Illinois!
timbo45 said:
posted on October 15, 2005 10:24 PM — 24.136.34.58 — link — abuse?
urban has a better chance getting the offense rolling with their back-up portis, he is a more mobile QB, and he came to UF specifically to play in the spread offense under coach Meyer. one of the biggest downfalls of the gator offense is the lack of pocket protection for Leak, when the pocket collapses (as it does nearly every time Leak drops back) Leak doesnt have the mobility to break loose for a run or better position himself for a throw. All the practices in the world won't improve the O-Line, but i guarantee Portis would break away from a blitz and have at least 2 big runs a game, which would make defenses think twice about simply blitzing in blindly. Unfortuneately, with all the heisman hype Leak had coming into the season, I highly doubt any change at QB will take place as long as he is at UF.
Don't get me wrong, Leak is obviously a very capable quarterback in the right system, but it's like trying to put tom brady in an offensive scheme suited for mike vick, it just doesnt fit, and Leak is going to spend all this season (and next season if he doesnt go pro) "adapting" to the spread offense.
If nothing else, just know that even though Leak was supposed to be a front runner from the heisman, losing him to the NFL in the next year or two will probably be beneficial in the end for the Gators (assuming Meyer is still at the helm)
posted on October 16, 2005 11:10 AM — link — abuse?
Shame on you so-called Gator fans. Did you really think that the sky was going to open up, Meyer would put on a headset and UF would win the National Championship? (And yes, a lot of you did.)
Putting in a new offense takes time & players. Florida doesn't have a great running game & y'all know that. Teams load up and make Leak be more than he is. Meyer's not out there blocking, tackling, and catching balls. Give me a break.
Hell, I'm probably the farthest thing possible from a Gator fan, but even I realize that Meyer's a good coach. Will he have to tweak out his system for the SEC? Without question - but that's what good coaches do. Will it happen overnight? N-O.
Turning on your coach this early (and I know I'll get killed for saying this, but...) turning on your coach this early is a VERY Florida thing to do. Meyer knew this was going to happen when he predicted his own possible firing.
ChadfromBama said:
posted on October 17, 2005 2:10 AM — 68.63.45.1 — link — abuse?
I think Urban Meyers spread option system would have a chance in the SEC if he got the type of players he needs, but right now he doesn't have them and he has to accept that. Chris Leak is a very good pocket type quartback, but he doesn't work in this system. Meyer hasn't accepted this yet. Until he does accept it and change his game plan, Florida will have a tough time winning games. Meyer knows he has to win games here. If he wants quality recruits he's gonna have to start winning games with the personnel he has. Tim Tebow was at the Bama game and it definitly changed his opinion about Florida. Top Recruits want to see that Florida is back on track to becoming an SEC powerhouse again before they will sign with them. If Florida doesn't look good this year, it will affect them for next year.
Orson Swindle said:
posted on October 17, 2005 2:04 PM — 66.117.161.191 — link — abuse?
Pimpdaddy, for the record we are a tool--a tool of sheer, arena-rocking, dragon-killing heavy metal madness.
ryan shad said:
posted on October 21, 2005 4:59 PM — 128.227.41.3 — link — abuse?
I think the true sign of a great team is one that can adapt week to week and correct the mistakes from previous games. Is Florida a great team right now? Of course not. I agree with what most of you have said: Meyer is trying to run an offense with the wrong athletes. I know that he doesn't want to back away from an offensive scheme that he's been trying to get people to buy in to ever since he came here, but he also needs to understand that you have to adapt and make the necessary changes during a game in order to win. If opponents can expose our weaknesses in the spread option early in the game, how can the coaches expect to win if we keep running the same plays? I think Leak is a great passer, but undoubtedly not a scrambler. I've seen a couple of plays this year (particularly in the LSU game) where he looked as if he was trying to get sacked intentionally. I believe that Meyer will do a good job at Florida, but let's be fair and give the guy a chance. No one can honestly say they expected him to come in here and go undefeated his first year.
gogators24 said:
posted on October 21, 2005 5:49 PM — 72.161.8.4 — link — abuse?
Those of you who want Urban gone so early make me sick. You people talk as if coaching a college football team is a simple thing to do. People that are saying, "He has to change his system", are idiots as far as I am concerned. You can't just up and change a scheme in the middle of a season. If you did, Chris Leak and company would look even more scared and confused than they do right now. The biggest problemis not on the field, but off the field. I think that Leak needs to step up and quit crying about his problems at QB. Before the LSU game, he told a reporter on national television that he was scared. For God's sake no wonder they lost, the "supposed" leader on the team was quoted as being scared. I am sure that scared the hell out of the rest of the team, and chaos ensued. I will admit that I got caught up in the Urban Meyer hype and believed for a short while he could walk on water, but a large crimson layden elephant and a purple and yellow tiger delivered a very shocking wake-up call. Yes, urban has some work, but his "leader" obviously needs some professional help. I'm out!
jwgator said:
posted on October 24, 2005 9:31 AM — 128.227.137.118 — link — abuse?
Urban does need to change the system, at least for now. Any new offensive scheme takes progression and time obviously, but how many times do you have to run the same plays before you figure out that it's not going to work? In response to gogators24, I agree that Leak is not a leader, so do you think keeping him in a system that he obviously can't grasp is going to make Florida any better? Do you think that Florida is improving from one week to the next? Even the most die-hard gator fan can see that this offense is not working for us. It doesn't mean you change the coach, it means you try something different in the playbook. Some people have said to bench Leak and go with Portis, but I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think Florida should totally revamp it's offense, but they do need to throw in some different plays to bail them out when the spread option fails. Florida barely ever throws the ball deep anymore. Maybe they will become more comfortable with this offense next year, but that shouldn't mean we let the remaining games go down the tube trying to perfect a system that is not working, at least right now.
posted on October 24, 2005 10:04 AM — 66.186.235.209 — link — abuse?
It's definitely premature to want to run Meyer off. Look, Florida knew full well what kind of offensive system Meyer ran when they hired him. It's not like he pulled this out of thin air and shocked everyone with it. And anyone who knows anything about football knows that switching to a completely new offensive scheme-- especially a strange and complex one like Meyer's-- doesn't happen overnight. It takes at least a season, maybe 2, to implement. If Florida and its fans weren't willing to endure that learning curve and go through a couple of lean years, then they never should have hired the man in the first place.
go-noles Dave said:
posted on October 25, 2005 10:01 AM — 209.12.176.182 — link — abuse?
hey all you gator fans ,there is no use in crying bout spilt milk.you want to know what we call quitters?SCRUBS!!thats what all you gator fans are SCRUBS you quit on your last coach,now your quitting on this coach and its not even half way through the season.cant wait for the noles to TAKE BACH THE SWAMP...thats our house by the way...GO NOLES
ZookHater said:
posted on October 25, 2005 11:08 AM — 209.215.101.73 — link — abuse?
Hey, give Urban a chance. He might very well turn out to be all hype, no glory. But at least he's (as far as we know) honest. You sure couldn't say that about Zook the Crook. Anyone employing Zook is risking their reputation. The NCAA should audit the football program at any school where Zook coaches and they should do it no less frequently than annually. But Meyer (as far as we know) isn't like that. Can he coach in the SEC? Who knows? It doesn't look good at present but time will tell. And besides, all this talk about Zook leaving him with such great talent might itself be an example of pure hype. Zook deserved to be run out of town the moment he arrived because of his known poor character. Meyer deserves a chance to prove himself like any other (non-Zook) new hire would deserve.
florida state steve said:
posted on October 31, 2005 9:50 AM — 209.12.176.182 — link — abuse?
hey heres a memo for you Gator fan,make sure you all have our house (the swamp)nice and tiety for us caue we are going to mess Our house up with gator meat.Go NOLES cant wait to put an a** woopin on you all....
UF-Professor said:
posted on November 13, 2005 11:57 AM — 141.156.165.69 — link — abuse?
Urban Meyer was a mistake. He was an unproven coach from a weak league who improbable run with Utah made him a hot commodity. I appreciate that he has only been here for 1 year but Meyer has always been touted as an offensive genius. His lone offensive showing was against Vanderbilt - a game that we struggled to close nonetheless. Furthermore, with UCF ans USF rising to respectability, Meyer may be in for some serious recruiting problems. Blue Chip players are not likely to be attracted to the ugly football that is shown on CBS saturdays. I do think he will last 3 years before a change will be made. For the young lady who commented, "There is always next year," bear in mind, 2006 is one of those seasons where the conference schedule does not smile on Florida. We face both Alabama and Auburn next year, in addition to LSU, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina and of course, FSU. If Meyer fails to make a bowl next year, which with those 7 teams on schedule will be a veritable task, I reckon that shoud end his stint. Maybe allow an additional year for recovery, but I implore Foley to hold his hand on the contract extensions. Zook comfortable went 7-4 with our teams for only $950,000, we don't need to pay Meyer 2.5mil, [10 times my salary] to do the same. With that talent, Meyer should be allowed a maximum of 2 losses per year. See Darth Visor's reign in Florida 1990-2001.
harry Stewart said:
posted on November 13, 2005 2:51 PM — 12.74.182.202 — link — abuse?
Re Coach Myer-I believe we true Gator suports and fans have been bit by a true snake oil salesman-a real PR man. Coach Spurrier has lived by the down field pass and the DRAW PLAY. Coach Strong and Myer had no answer for the DRAW PLAY. Coach " URB " should freturn to the midwest/farwest, he can't compete w/the SEC teams. Wait till next year.
gator155 said:
posted on November 13, 2005 3:09 PM — 70.156.221.96 — link — abuse?
Meyer is the wrong guy for this job. He was unable to adapt to at half-time to the three teams that have beaten us so far. His game plan appears to be unmovable whether it's good or bad. His spread offense is a joke. His offensive and defensive coordinators seem better suited to being livingroom armchair quarterbacks with no imagination. BUT his greatess sin is that he cannot inspire consistently good play. Like the somethime good coaches of yesteryear (Ray Graves,that guy from Tennesse, Pell and a host of others) he gets the team up for some games and lets them flat for others. A truly great coach like the "Bear" gets his team going for a season, not a game. I blame that darn U of F President and his arrogance for this mess more than Urban of Spurrier. To think that arrogant person told Spurrier that he could submit a resume. Now the question is will we have to wait several generations for another really good coach?
posted on November 13, 2005 7:10 PM — 68.35.231.61 — link — abuse?
Doesn't seem like a real great coach at making adjustments on the fly does he? There is no excuse for Florida losing to South Carolina, even though they were obviously out-coached. The talent on South Carolina's roster is nothing compared to UF, just not a great game yesterday for the Gators.
jack said:
posted on November 15, 2005 8:36 AM — 24.233.150.2 — link — abuse?
Gator155 is completely correct. One- Meyer is in over his head. Two- He has no knowlwdge of the passion, history and glory of SEC football. Three- In this league and at this school, there is not time for a mediocre coach to attempt to learn on the job. Meyer's obituary will read- "He took us back to the sad old "Wait til next year." days".
Gerald said:
posted on November 15, 2005 2:05 PM — 216.113.128.239 — link — abuse?
The fire Meyer bandwagon is a bit premature. Spurrier looks like a hero right now, but he is benefitting from some pretty good talent that over the hill Lou and legacy Skip Holtz were allowing to run wild. Spurrier is the same guy who burned out at Florida (not all his fault; when Eraste Astin, a true freshman who died of heatstroke during "voluntary" summer workouts Spurrier took it really hard, and the media always sided with Bobby Bowden and FSU's thugs in their wars no matter what even when Spurrier caught an FSU player intentionally injuring his starting TB on tape!) and left the cupboard bare. Zook really didn't have a chance to re - stock the program with talent, as he was hired almost at the end of the recruiting process his first year and was fired before his 3rd year was over. Also, several of Zook's highly touted recruits either didn't qualify, got hurt, left school early for the NFL (including his only good tailback), or just didn't pan out. Meyer then made the mistake of coaching Utah in some meaningless BCS game against Pitt rather than heading right to Florida to start recruiting.
Then the season starts, and Meyer loses his only two good wideouts for the season to injury. The fact is that Florida just is not that good. And no, Meyer would not have done any better at Notre Dame, because Brady Quinn is even less capable of running the spread option than is Chris Leak, and their offensive line isn't nearly quick enough for that scheme.
That said, I do not think that the spread option will work in the SEC because in that conference the QB will just take too many hits. I mean geesh, you are seeing 230 pound SAFETIES at some of these SEC schools. Those hybrid offenses do not work in a defensive conference, especially after defenses figure it out. No splitting babies between the option and the passing game. Meyer will have to pick one and go with it. I say go with the option. Florida high school football produces outstanding option quarterbacks, most of whom wind up at other positions if they want to stay in the state and play ball, but you do have the occasional Tommie Frazier that goes off and wins national titles elsewhere.
florida state steve said:
posted on November 15, 2005 5:26 PM — 209.12.176.182 — link — abuse?
oh good lord you gator fans are pathetic,i mean good gosh this is football..this is meyers first year .besides florida was going to suck anyways.spurrior is gone,live with metiocracy you ******!!!Go noles....
gogators24 said:
posted on November 16, 2005 2:09 PM — 72.161.9.177 — link — abuse?
Florida State Steve,
Are you even a Florida State Fan, or were you too busy bashing Florida to notice that your team lost to Clemson. CLEMSON for Christ sake!! I mean, South Carolina at least has a good coach, who by the way has won a number of SEC games this year. Clemson, however not only beat the seminoles, but embarrassed you thugs. I would also like to take the time to ridicule the winner who said tennessee is the best team in the country. HA!!! Florida fans, this season, we need to be patient. That, I know, is hard for us to do because we expected so much. However, I put the blame on our shoulders as fans. We put a lot of pressure on Urban to do well. Did we make Urban to be more than he is...YES! It is purely our fault for this. Did Urban ever say, "We are going to be National Champs this year". NO, that is ridiculous. We said it, the media predicted we should be SEC champs. That prediction was made when we had 3 healthy receivers, and a secondary. Yes we have had some bad games this year, but look at it this way, I say a good year is beating our 3 rivals, The Vols, Bulldogs, and Seminoles. We are 2/3's the way there. If we can pull one last win out this season, in my eyes, that is a winning season. Chill out, give Urban some room. In 3-4 years, if there is no improvement, lets look for someone new, but getting rid of him now is the biggest mistake we could make.
Gerald said:
posted on November 16, 2005 3:05 PM — 216.113.128.239 — link — abuse?
Florida State Steve:
You are talking a lot of noise ... how CERTAIN are you that FSU will beat Florida the way Weatherford and Lee have been playing? While pointing the "mediocre" finger at Florida, they beat you guys last year at your place, remember? Both you guys have the same record, the only difference is that where Florida lost to RANKED teams in LSU (top 5), Alabama (top 10), and South Caronlina (22) you guys lost to unranked UVA, unranked NC State, and unranked Clemson. Heck, with Virginia Tech, Miami, and South Carolina on their schedules Clemson and Virginia needed those wins to become bowl eligible, and N.C. State still might not make it (they have to sweep MTSU and Maryland, and even then they will need to count a victory against I - AA Eastern Kentucky, as you can do once every 3 years).
At least Florida has an excuse for being mediocre. Their players aren't that good and do not fit what Urban Meyer is trying to do on offense. But what is FSU's excuse? Florida's problems are more fixable than FSU's, my friend. When Xavier Lee, Fred Rouse, and the bunch of other FSU players upset at playing time transfer this offseason AND you lose your only consistent offensive player to the draft/graduation in Leon Washington AND you play an experienced Miami team next year AND you play Virginia Tech too AND with all the pressure on Jeff Bowden with some of it the heat finally being placed on Bobby ... well I would say that people in glass houses should not throw stones. By the way, when was FSU's last major bowl victory? 1999? Thought so. When was Florida's? 2001. Over the ACC champs. Thought so. Have fun in the Peach Bowl fellas! Which is where you are going unless Virginia Tech either A) stumbles against UVA or UNC or B) gets a BCS at large bid. I wouldn't hold my breath on either one.
James Jett said:
posted on December 23, 2005 10:32 PM — 65.35.7.215 — link — abuse?
I think Florida has seen the end of Top 10 ratings for a while now. Florida is in need of a football coach who will recruit for talent not hype! Florida has great athletes...but they come from other places as well. Go get'em....don't try to save a little cake for the party....go all out!
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Senor Pez said:
posted on October 3, 2005 9:48 AM — 63.162.183.2 — link — abuse?Actually, you haven't quite grasped the extent of this conspiracy. Years ago, a few guys started FanBlogs to provide bait to draw you in with talk of college football and cheerleader photo contests. But that's all it was: Bait.
But now the trap has been sprung with the launch of the Fire Coach Meyer site, and an article pointing out its launch to you. All of their hard work and effort has led to this end. I'll be sad to see FanBlogs disappear, now that its purpose has been fulfilled, but it's good to see a plan come together.
Or, maybe, the original poster was just pointing out something of interest on the college football landscape.