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August 14, 2005

FSU officially responds to NCAA mascot ruling

Text of Florida State University President T.K. Wetherell's letter to the NCAA on Friday:


August 12, 2005
Dr. Myles Brand
President
National Collegiate Athletic Association
Indianapolis, IN 46202

Dear President Brand:

The Florida State University family - its alumni, supporters and friends, including government and civic leaders - is offended by the inclusion of Florida State University on the NCAA's list of 18 colleges and universities that it says "display hostile or abusive racial/ethnic/national origin mascots, nicknames or imagery."

The purpose of this letter is to appeal the August 4 decision of the NCAA Executive Committee. We request that the NCAA immediately remove Florida State University's name from this list because neither the name "Florida State Seminoles" nor any imagery that the university uses is "hostile or abusive" or disrespectful.

In fact, the opposite is true. We have a nearly 60-year history of honoring the Florida Seminoles. We believe use of the name "Florida State Seminoles," as well as our tradition of tribute to the "unconquered" Florida Seminoles, is consistent with the core values and principles of the NCAA Constitution as described in your August 9 letter.

It is clear to us that the NCAA's process of adopting this new policy was seriously flawed and undemocratic. A more open atmosphere and opportunity for in-person, two-way communication on an issue that NCAA Executive Committee members, themselves, have called "complex" could have averted this faulty policy. The obvious lack of accurate and well-documented information on this issue highlights the flaws in this process.

"Florida State Seminoles" is not a nickname. It is, rather, a name that we use to identify not only our athletics teams but also many other internal and external groups because it represents traits of a heroic people whom we admire and would like to emulate.

The name "Florida State Seminoles" was selected by vote of the university student body in 1947, when FSU became a co-educational institution. The name was selected to specifically honor the indomitable spirit of the Florida Seminoles - those people whom the Seminole Tribe of Florida's history refers to as the "few hundred unconquered Seminole men, women and children left - all hiding in the swamps and Everglades of South Florida." The name honors the bravery, courage, strength and determination of these people, who never surrendered and persevered to preserve their heritage and traditions, and who in 1842 were finally left at peace - free at last from government oppression.

The Seminole Tribe of Florida comprises the vast majority of those survivors in Florida, and it has supported Florida State University's use of the name informally for decades.

On June 17, 2005, the Tribal Council of the Seminole Tribe of Florida voted unanimously in favor of a written resolution to reaffirm its ongoing support of the university's use of its name and symbols. The significance of putting this resolution in writing is enhanced by the fact that traditionally the Seminole Tribe of Florida has not seen the need to commit these kinds of relationships or agreements to writing. Their word is their bond. During the presentation of that resolution to me at the Tribe's Big Cypress Reservation, Tribal Council member Max Osceola said, "We have to respect each other's views, and in the Seminole Tribe of Florida's view, you honor us by using the name Seminole."

As for the NCAA's concern about "mascots," we do not have them at the university. We use imagery in a tradition of tribute to the Florida Seminoles - namely a horse, a rider and a flaming spear - all of which were created after consultation with and the concurrence of the leadership of the Seminole Tribe of Florida.

To correct the record, there are two separate and sovereign tribes - the Seminole Tribe of Florida and the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma. Our use of the name is founded upon our understanding of the tribal sovereignty of the Seminole Tribe of Florida and its history as an "unconquered" people. We embrace all Seminoles. In fact, one of our "Seminole Scholars" is a member of the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma. Under the university's Seminole Scholarship Program, all Seminole Scholars receive our highest-level scholarship.

Contrary to the NCAA's statements, the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma is on record as unopposed to the use of the Seminole name. This past July, the Seminole Nation General Council, the legislative body for the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, resoundingly defeated a motion to denounce the use of Native American nicknames and images in sports and other events. The vote was 18-2.

Moreover, Ken Chambers, principal chief of the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, has said publicly that the name "gives the type of recognition that allows people to identify with the name Seminoles." He also said, "As far as the mascot itself, it is not degrading to us. It is not humiliating."

In addition, Kelly Haney, a former Oklahoma state senator who will become the principal chief of the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma in September, also has publicly said that his position is that "if the Seminoles in Florida decide it's OK with them, I have no problems with it."

In light of all this and in accordance with your August 9 letter, we are copying the NCAA Executive Committee's Subcommittee on Gender and Diversity Issues so that it can reconsider the applicability of this new policy to Florida State University. We are also asking the Executive Committee to act - just as swiftly as it approved this new policy last week - to remove the name of Florida State University from the list of 18 said to be using "hostile and abusive" names and imagery. We hope to have the NCAA's decision no later than August 29 - the opening of fall classes - so that we can get back to the business of higher education.

As for your letter's suggestion of a second avenue for challenging this policy, we suggest the policy be amended to recognize and respect tribal sovereignty and the rights of each tribe to determine whether their names are being used appropriately. Therefore, we urge that the Executive Committee ultimately remove from its list all colleges and universities whose "namesake tribes" have officially supported the use of their name and symbols. In our case, the Seminole Tribe of Florida is our "namesake tribe."

The Executive Committee should consider what the American Indian Policy Center has said about Indian sovereignty: "The framers of the United States Constitution specifically recognized the sovereignty of Indian tribes. In Article 1, section 8, clause 3 of the Constitution, Congress is identified as the governmental branch authorized to regulate commerce with 'foreign nations, among the several states, and with the Indian tribes [italics added].' The Supreme Court reaffirmed this legal and political standing of Indian nations in a set of three 19th century court decisions known as the Marshall Trilogy. These cases serve as cornerstones to understanding Indian sovereignty in the U.S. political system as a clearly defined legal status that has constitutional standing."

Florida State University and other universities have developed mutually beneficial relationships with their "namesake tribes" that have led to better understanding of Native American heritage and even increased opportunities for the higher education of young tribe members. As your letter suggests, we are copying the "respective divisional presidential governing body" so that they might support this amendment and develop a recommendation to the NCAA Executive Committee.

We believe that each and every college and university should bear the sole responsibility for respect and dignity in connection with namesakes, regardless of their derivation. To that end, we suggest that the NCAA heed the comment of its own Committee on Sportsmanship and Ethical Conduct, which is summarized in the October 2002 NCAA Minority Opportunities and Interests Committee Report, that "such issues may be addressed most effectively by the individual institution, its community and its conference, rather than at the national level."

Finally, we hope that we can hold you to what you said in your remarks at the NCAA annual convention: "The democratic process through representative governance determines what decisions will be made (by the NCAA). And the driving force - the agents of change - in this process are the college and university presidents." But we believe a truly democratic process would not ignore the special relationships between colleges and universities and their "namesake tribes."

Sincerely,
T.K. Wetherell
President
Florida State University

 

Comments:

  1. schmed said:

    posted on August 15, 2005 10:07 AM — 208.248.231.58 — linkabuse?



    The good news is that FSU has such a strong, well documented case to be exempt from the NCAA's silly policy.

    But, while tyrants are easily appeased, they are rarely gracious in dealing with any loss of face or accepting any level of defeat...

    The bad news is that the NCAA may be quick to cave in on this one but will set the bar at FSU's high level. That a nearly unattainable level of exemption exists would be a distraction the NCAAzis will be quick to use to legitimize their "Mask your Mascot" policy.

  2. Rob said:

    posted on August 15, 2005 12:29 PM — 65.170.177.150 — linkabuse?



    did you see the response from the pres of UND? Wow.

  3. schmed said:

    posted on August 15, 2005 1:52 PM — 208.248.231.58 — linkabuse?



    I kind of like President Kupchella's approach. FSU has taken the bull by the horns.
    UND is telling the bull he's goring himself:

    In his USA Today essay, Myles Brand proclaimed that this is a teachable moment, suggesting that the NCAA decision is “aimed at initiating a discussion on a national basis about how American Indians have been characterized . . . .” Great idea! Let’s have the discussion – one that we should have had before this ruling was handed down...

    It's a lenghty letter - as it should be - full of specific as well as rhetorical questions carefully worded to make it clear that the NCAA's got its backside fully exposed. Here's my other favorite paragraph:

    Is it only about applying names to sports teams? If so, would this be extended to the use of the names of all people, or is it just American Indians? Why would you exempt the “Fighting Irish” from your consideration, for example? Or “Vikings,” which are really fighting Scandinavians, or “Warriors,” which I suppose could be described as fighting anybodies? Wouldn’t it be “discrimination on account of race” to have a policy that applies to Indians but not to Scandinavians or the Irish, or anybody else for that matter? This seems especially profound in light of a letter to me from President Brand (8/9/05) in which he, in very broad-brush fashion and inconsistent with the NCAA’s recent much narrower pronouncement, said, “we believe that mascots, nicknames or images deemed hostile or abusive in terms of race, ethnicity or national origin should not be visible at our events.”

    I wonder if Mr. Brand would like it kicked using the soccer-style or the old-fashioned toe-first approach?

  4. Thomass H. Seigo said:

    posted on August 15, 2005 7:26 PM — 24.231.171.158 — linkabuse?



    It would seem that the likes of the ACLU et al will stoop to anh level of mediocrity to advance their cause, which simply put is to pad their attorneys pockets by means of legal manipulating the constitution to serve their idiotic purposes.

  5. Thomass H. Seigo said:

    posted on August 15, 2005 7:29 PM — 24.231.171.158 — linkabuse?



    It would seem that the likes of the ACLU et al will stoop to any level of mediocrity to advance their cause, which simply put is to pad their attorneys pockets by means of legal manipulating the constitution to serve their idiotic purposes. Let's face it, those on the far left of the political arena are going to take this nation down the tube of self destruction. Go SPARTANS!

  6. Thomas H. Seigo said:

    posted on August 15, 2005 7:33 PM — 24.231.171.158 — linkabuse?



    It would seem that the likes of the ACLU et al will stoop to any level of mediocrity to advance their cause, which simply put is to pad their attorneys pockets by means of legal manipulating the constitution to serve their idiotic purposes. Let's face it, those on the far left of the political arena are going to take this nation down the tube of self destruction. Go SPARTANS!

  7. schmed said:

    posted on August 19, 2005 4:32 PM — 208.248.231.58 — linkabuse?



    As a follow-up to comment #1, now hear this:

    The NCAA said Friday that approval from American Indian tribes would be a primary factor in deciding appeals from schools that want to use Native American nicknames and mascots in postseason play.

    I hate to be an "Itoldjaso" but...
    Wait, no I don't.

  8. schmed said:

    posted on August 19, 2005 4:36 PM — 208.248.231.58 — linkabuse?



    And you don't suppose these "approvals" might be the sort of thing that "boosters" or "alumni" might be able to secure for their schools - without, of course, resorting to any sort of financial arrangements that might arouse the insatiable curiosity of the Waffen-NCAA. Nahhhh.

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