November 12, 2006
Wake hands Noles first home shutout loss in Bowden Era
For weeks there has been a back and forth between the 'Bowden should Retire' and the 'Stand behind Bobby' factions of Floirda State fandom. The bad performances and questionable coaching calls had the FSU boosters, alums, and fans debating the "why" behind the team's performance.
And then came what can only be termed as the most embarrassing loss in Bobby Bowden's career - the home shutout defeat at the hands of... ((gulp)) Wake Forest.
The 30-0 loss at the hands of the Demon Deacons marked a lot of Seminole firsts:
- First home sutout loss for Bobby Bowden
- First time FSU has lost three games under Bowden
- First time any school other than Miami has shutout Bowden's Noles
- First shutout in 232 games (9th best in NCAA)
It was a loss that no one at FSU imagined and it seems that no one could bear. The announced 77,000+ that braved the rain early in the game were driven away by the Seminoles' performance, or lack thereof. By the fourth quarter, fewer than 15,000 remained. Even the FSU staff took the loss hard - the scoreboard operators shut off the scoreboards immediately following the game, where they normally stay lit for 30 minutes or more.
To fully describe the whipping FSU took would exhaust the adjectives rarely used to describe a Bowden team. Exhausting, humbling, embarrassing... and on and on it goes. Last year's ACC champions are now ACC chumps - likely finishing the season... ((gulp))... in a last place tie with Duke.
Unfortunately, there are just too many questions and too few answers. Wholesale changes are needed at Florida State. The game has not passed Bobby Bowden by, but his intense loyalty -- an admirable character trait -- may be his downfall. As much as it pains me to say it, Coach Bowden has to lead the change or step aside.
Comments:
Jon said:
posted on November 12, 2006 11:55 AM — 69.246.161.119 — link — abuse?
I've said it before... I will say it again.
He is not fighting us.
He is not fighting the other team.
He if fighting himself. He is doing it all to himself.
When he surrenders... and considers the possibility that "sport writers and fans" could actually have a point... and stops trying to dismiss everything that doesn't coincide with his unadaptable, cookie-cutter belief system....then you will see improvement.
The harder he fights, the bigger he lets his ego get, the more he tries to cover for his son, the more contempt he has for fans, and the more he tries to prove us wrong...
....the more he burns.
posted on November 12, 2006 12:11 PM — link — abuse?Kevin Donahue said:
I'm not one of the FSU fans who believes that Jeff Bowden is "the" problem. Jeff may be the best offensive coach we have (take that for what you will).
I think Bobby should fire the entire offensive staff & the strength coach.
Chris said:
posted on November 12, 2006 2:09 PM — 69.254.209.230 — link — abuse?
I was born & raised right here in Tallahassee. I have been a loyal FSU fan as far back as I can remember.... I have grown up in the "Bowden era" ... and I have never seen our football program this low! Last night was like watching a family member die... right before your eyes! Then to see all of the (quote - unquote) "FSU fans" leave early was a disgrace. Sure the weather was a little bad, but last night was when the Seminoles needed the most support of the entire year. On top of that the "fans" even boo'ed their own team for making mistakes! I can truly say that WE (FSU Football) have the worst fans in the country.... and as some people put it, "Fair-weather Fans". Right now there is alot of blaming and finger pointing going on by everybody in Seminole Nation. Maybe we as "the true fans" should rally behind our broken team and try to lift them up. Now is the time to stand behind our young team, not worry about all the politics of the coaching staff. Everybody has trusted Bobby this long to make good decisions for our football program.... they should trust him now to do the same.
Regan said:
posted on November 12, 2006 2:45 PM — 208.104.83.149 — link — abuse?
I have loved hating the 'Noles for years, being both a Miami and Clemson fan. The fact that FSU was the Darth Vader of the ACC for so many years (relieving Clemson of the role) made it easy to love to root against them.
What had made it tough was the quality of the program and fans of FSU, and the respectable way that the coaches and teams have endured over the years. One small example: against WF, the 'Nole players all wore a #95 on their helmets to honor the death of Bryan Pata, a player on their archrival's squad.
Geez I hope this program is able to right the ship down there, and not just because I miss the days of the big games vs. the Noles...it's because Bowden, the FSU staff, players, and fans all deserve it. Somehow, even the crazy internet arguments with them seem civil and respectable.
Right the ship, 'Noles...do it with Bowden if you can - he has earned it. :)
goodolnuma5 said:
posted on November 12, 2006 3:02 PM — 24.208.149.244 — link — abuse?
The biggest indication of an AD's reason to dump a coach is.......drumroll..........attendance. Losses? nah. Crime? no. Its all about the benjamins baby. I know its Bowden, but this is simply not a well coached team.
Jim said:
posted on November 12, 2006 3:10 PM — 24.129.95.158 — link — abuse?
This is tough....As an alumni, still a huge fan, always will be a fan,(I'm also a Chi Cub), GET A LIFE!. Sometimes, things don't work out. Get over it. It's just college football. Enjoy the fact that if you are reading this, you're not dead. Believe me, it's upsetting for me as well, however, the alternative is certainly not an option. Has it occured to anyone that Mr. Bowden has brought a powerhouse of a conference to the national forefront? With the exposure that he alone has established, the talent of the "pre" NFL
gents is a breeding ground. They all can't go to FSU.goodolnuma5 said:
posted on November 12, 2006 3:13 PM — 24.208.149.244 — link — abuse?
Post 6: A little unfair to label the fans the "worst in the country." FSU fan deserves better than this. When you have an elite program you should have high expectations. Losing like this should never be expected, supported or excused.
Jon said:
posted on November 12, 2006 3:22 PM — 69.246.161.119 — link — abuse?
I'm not one of the FSU fans who believes that Jeff Bowden is "the" problem. Jeff may be the best offensive coach we have (take that for what you will).
I think Bobby should fire the entire offensive staff & the strength coach.
The entire offensive staff reports to Jeff Bowden. Offensive players consistently not executing = his problem. Every problem on the offense = his problem. But his daddy will not let him fire anyone or step down... Not that Jeff would ever step down.
I'll tell you a little story about Jeff. Once upon a time, Jeff (an former alcoholic) actually told me "I'm so sick of everyone only thinking there are two Bowdens in this world". (Referring to Bobby and Terry...before Tommy took over the Clemson job)
He resents his families success. His father has tried his best to pull his son's name up. He has failed. And daddy knows if he fires Jeff, he will be back in that bottle.
My point is, there are A LOT of family dynamics that the FSU program is being screwed by right now. Jeff Bowden is the biggest cancer on that football team and has been since he took control. "Right now" there are a lot of other problems (defense, conditioning), but when those problems go away and we will go right back to winning 8-4 and 7-3... With Jeff Bowden play-calling being the only reason we never return to glory.
Our offense hasn't been good since he took over and I've been on here bitching long before it got this bad.
ASH said:
posted on November 12, 2006 3:42 PM — 71.52.20.71 — link — abuse?
Chris,
This is a repost of what i said on another blog.
On a wet cold bench, with my cloths soaked and my bones aching from the cold, I valiantly supported my team. A true fan I thought, take one for the team, be there for them in thick or thin. Rooting, rooting, myself and 65,000 soaked and aching other fans, the team on to victory. That was the idea. And in the cold dampness on Veterans Day, I watched the Seminoles do something; they haven’t done in thirty-five years (1971), get shut out in Doak Campbell Stadium. I watched an anemic offense barely get 77 total yards by the third quarter. I watched a battered and depleted defense play their hearts out in the first quarter only to be worn out by a superior offense by the third.
Sitting in third quarter I looked up on the big screen and saw something that finally broke my spirit, and why I left before the third quarter was done, Kentucky 38 – Vanderbilt 26. As I sat in that cold windy damp stadium I realized Kentucky was now bowl eligible and not Florida State. Don’t get me wrong I don’t mean that as a slight to Kentucky (I am true blue thru and thru), but for them to have a better record at this time in the season speaks volumes for the state of Florida State.
I watched our offensive line barely block anyone, never giving any Quarterback a real chance to do something. When they would put together a good drive, it would be killed by a sack or penalty. I watched three and outs all night long, the defense was on the field more then the offense, add the fact that they are so depleted personnel wise and you can’t blame them for being worn out. I began to feel sorry for them as they kept trying.
And before you say the obvious, yes Wake Forest is a superior team to us and their defense played as much part in this debacle as every thing else. But it was obvious that this team was not ready to play, a Wake Forest who was ready to play, because they have something to play for.
How much more can we say and not be heard? What more has to be said? This loss is the last six years in a microcosm. I will say once again I don’t want Coach Bowden to go, but if he is not willing to make the changes in staff necessary to right this ship. If he continues to ignore the obvious and be so stubborn that he refuse to make the hard changes then maybe its time for him to retire.
Jeff Bowden be a man save your father from having to make that hard decision, STEP DOWN.
posted on November 12, 2006 3:47 PM — link — abuse?
Agreed. The ENTIRE offensive staff needs to go, as does the Strength team.
Wake Fan said:
posted on November 12, 2006 6:35 PM — 68.221.47.162 — link — abuse?
Good going W/F Maybe this is what it takes to wake F/S up. W/F went with class and leaves with class. While I have nothing against F/S . This one time which are far and few between we cleaned your clock and maybe your coaching staff..
Gary Morgan said:
posted on November 12, 2006 6:50 PM — 74.34.146.199 — link — abuse?
Last night was hard to watch. I have been a FSU follower for my entire adult life... I was stunned and really was glad when ABC switched the feed to Tex/KSU. Bobby Bowden has and can continue to do great things for this University. I guess this season will make the fans appreciate what they have had for so long and can have again. Really, name me 1 school that has been considered a national powerhouse that has not had a .500 or lower season? It happens... now is the time to look for the rebound and future dominance of the ACC
ctbfsufdx said:
posted on November 12, 2006 6:58 PM — 64.134.55.213 — link — abuse?
Having watched FSU football for 25 years and being an 86 graduate I have to say that it was so embarrasing last night as well as all season. For 20 years plus we have ran the same plays, pitch left, pitch right screen left screen right, throw it up for grabs and hope our guy catches it. Quarterback sneak on the 6 with a second down and 1 to go. I knew that was what he was going to run just as everyk fan and WF player did. We are so predictable it is ridiculous. I am a huge Bobby B fan but the time to call it quits has come. FSU is now an ugly duckling in NCAA football and has been for a while. What a shame.
John I said:
posted on November 12, 2006 7:23 PM — 66.57.38.92 — link — abuse?
Nepotism is like quicksand. Coach Bowden's legacy is being tarnished by a decision the University should have pre-empted. That did not happen. Now Coach Bowden is in the self created mud. Men of honor admit their mistakes and rectify them.
Coach, you are the steward of this program, it does not belong to you. Do the right thing and remove your son. We do not want to play this game that the University and you have created.
Gatorpilot said:
posted on November 12, 2006 7:49 PM — 71.42.27.135 — link — abuse?
This is great.
I agree - any other team and I'd be wheeling out the consolation-speak. But this is Florida State! I want my #3 BCS Gators to roll into Tallahassee, take that godd*mn flaming spear from the fake Indian chief and stick it even further into the flabby hindquarters of this gassy corpse of a program. Each and every subsequent game is another spasm of necroflatulence eminating from one orifice or another.
They stink! And they have it coming to them. We Gators were celebrating our victory over the Ol' Ball Coach last night at our tailgate in Gainesville and talking about which of our opponents' fans were the worst. South Carolina fans are the least educated. Bama fans are perhaps the most intense but come across as hobos. LSU fans are annoying and arrogant. But by all accounts, hands down the WORST fans we ever have to deal with are FSU fans, maybe in a close tie with those Miami losers.
I hope they continue to suffer. But I support Bobby Bowden and his admirable decision not to let his fans dictate who he should fire or hire.
His legendary status and the fact that he put this women's school on the map are like the rarely used "Pistol" in "Rock, Paper, Scissors." Boosters and fans hold only the latter three. Bobby holds the gun. Pistol always beats rock. Pistol always beats paper. Pistol always beats scissors. Endgame.He has a lifetime contract and in my opinion is easily healthy and vibrant enough to coach Florida State for another five years, if not more.
Regards...
-Gatorpilot
Milan said:
posted on November 12, 2006 8:56 PM — 24.211.88.95 — link — abuse?
I have been a FSU fan for the last 20 years. The problem with this team is that they have no confidence. They have lost their swagger. The players individually are better than Wake's or any other ACC team. We don't play with passion. The problem is Jeff Bowden. Ever since he became the Offensive Coor. this offense can't move the ball. FSU recuits the best skill position players in the country. We just don't execute. Because the offense is so bad, the defense is just giving up. If Bobby doesn't correct this quickly, FSU will become a second tier ACC team that will not be able to recruit the best talent. I love FSU football, but I am really concerned about its future. Maybe Bobby needs to step down and FSU needs to bring Mark Richt back.
DAve the nole said:
posted on November 12, 2006 10:11 PM — 76.2.226.217 — link — abuse?
It is extremely disapointing to watch the slow dimise of a great program. It is because of our noles that the other acc teams are finally improving unfortunetly at our expense. Our program is moving in the wrong direction, while almost every other acc team has made improvements. I remember watching wake forest slowly improve their offensive line over the last two to three years. While it may appear that we have lost some swagger, I believe that it is time to remove the names of the players from the back of their jerseys. Im tired of individualism. Maybe the focus should return to TEAM, and not an individual player's moment. As for the gay-tors, who post here, it sounds to me as though you have never gotten over steve sperrier chumping your school and fans.
Cane_Nation said:
posted on November 13, 2006 9:08 AM — 205.166.218.38 — link — abuse?
Gatorpilot (Post #22)
I am not a Nole fan either, but I do have respect for the program. I really don't think fans are that bad. I went to the FSU-UAB game a couple of years ago wearing all Orange and Green, sat with the season ticket holders and we had a little banter back and forth. But we were all laughing the whole time, nothing mean spirited (it probably helped that we were riding a 5 game win streak over the Noles at the time). FSU is a great rival to my 'Canes and i want both programs at the top of their games when they meet up.
The reason Gator fans love to see either of these programs go down the tube is because when Miami/FSU is a the top of their game and the Gators are at the top of theirs it usually ends up with Florida limping back to the locker room. Florida loves to play the bully role. They don't want to play anybody who might give them a game or actually beat them. And when they do they complain about dirty tactics (FSU) or even cry about an opposing player's sock not being high enough (FSU) or even better just get off the schedule (Miami). That is why nobody likes the Gators or their whiny little fans. Step up and hope the big boys are on their game when you play them for one, because when you do beat them it feels that much better, and two, it shows that you aren't afraid of getting beat.
You can't tell me that when and if you beat FSU you won't feel a little cheated that you're not getting the FSU we have all come to love to play.
Oh yeah, you're a gator fan, you'd rather just take that gimme win with no risk.
Joe said:
posted on November 13, 2006 9:17 AM — 72.185.22.184 — link — abuse?
Linda:
Famous Quote by typical FSU whiner:"I was really upset when Jeff Bowden threw those 4 interceptions. I wonder what was he thinking?
It also didn't help a bit when he missed those tackles that allowed Wake Forest to score."
The FSU "whiners" have more to do with lack of success than anyone. They are the "cancer" that has forgotten what it is to be a fan. I suggest to them all to watch the Rutgers vs Louisville game. When Rutgers fell behind 25-7 there was not one nasty sign or any boo's to be heard? Hmmmm?
Jon said:
posted on November 13, 2006 11:10 AM — 69.246.161.119 — link — abuse?
The FSU team is young and there have been many injuries. Why are fans not understanding this?
Because we have heard THE SAME BULLSH*T EXCUSE, every single year, for the past 6 years. Stop making excuses (pandering talking points), YOU are crippling them.
Jon said:
posted on November 13, 2006 11:32 AM — 69.246.161.119 — link — abuse?
Seriously.. listen to the post game responses after a loss. It has been 100% consistent for the past 10 years.
1) The players didn't execute.
2) We have a "young team".
3) Injuries really hurt us.You can go to google and search the word "young team" +bowden +(ANY YEAR) and find a losing quote with Bowden making excuses.
The last press conference Spurrier gave, when they asked him why they lost, you know what his answer was?..."I got out-coached"
Bowden has stopped giving those types of answers... And he will go down with this ship... And our program will face a hard lesson in accountability and WHY YOU DO NOT BUILD A CURRENT COACH INTO A GOD.
C-DOGG said:
posted on November 13, 2006 12:06 PM — 76.188.148.131 — link — abuse?
FSU's season makes it a little bit easier to be a Hurricanes fan right now. That's O.K. though....Michigan had a bad season last year and look where they are. Any program that recruits well is only one season away from turining things around.
gatorhippy said:
posted on November 13, 2006 12:16 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse?
Dave (#24):
Actually, UF just flushed that Saturday...
It was close, but I would have thought you would have seen that before the beating the Noles took at the hands of WAKE FOREST...
I could not believe my eyes as I watched the Noles seemingly give up Saturday night...
I got in from Gainesville about midway through the 3rd quarter and watched the end of what has to be the absolute worst overall TEAM performance possibly in FSU history...
Players and Coaches all own the reponsibility of that debacle Saturday night...
What I'm really ticked about is that the @*^&#% Noles can't keep it together enough for UF to come to town and benefit from the win if they can actually beat the Noles...
It's like the Noles figure they should play as poorly as possible and ruin any chance UF would have to get into the MNC game IF the Gators can win out...
Never thought I'd see the day that a game against FSU wouldn't give a team a boost with a victory over the Noles...
It's just disappointing and sad...
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on November 13, 2006 12:39 PM — 64.32.153.19 — link — abuse?
Well, I'm finally gonna have to say it. What in the world is the matter at FSU? This is amazing to me. I was just figuring, that with all of the parity in CF these days and that the ACC actually had alot of "better than average" teams, that maybe FSU was not in that bad of shape. I had actually had FSU as a +10 favorite over a tremendously fortunate Deacon team. But, to lose 33-0, there is no excuse in the world for that. I mean really? Maybe Bowden better start to figure out what the problem is - because there is definately a problem here. Zero points against Wake Forest? Somebody has got to go. GOD would fire himself if this were happening in heaven. Thankfully, it's just earth that has a malfunction.
Tommie T
Ash said:
posted on November 13, 2006 6:01 PM — 69.21.116.14 — link — abuse?
All this season I have heard a lot of different excuses as to why we are playing so terribly. This is a really young team, Boston Collage 8-2 (ACC 4-2), is rebuilding this season with a lot of freshman and sophomores. Virginia Tech 8-2 (ACC 4-2), is rebuilding this season with a lot of freshman and sophomores. They don’t seem to have trouble winning with these limitations. As a reminder Florida State 5-5 (ACC 3-5), is rebuilding this season with a lot of freshman and sophomores.
We have more then our share of injuries. We’ve had injuries before, and won. With the level and talent of the backups playing this season, it shouldn’t be an excuse, it should be a challenge. It was the level and talent of these backups that had us pre-season #11, remember?
Weatherford is not a good quarterback, you need to put Xavier Lee in and he will save the day.
Weatherford 3-2, 258-135 passing attempts, 59.2 completion % 10 td’s 7 int’s.
Lee 2-3, 102-51 passing attempts, 50.0 completion % 5 td’s 5 int’s.
Not much difference in my opinion, the both would have better numbers if the O-line just blocked for them.It’s almost sacrilegious in some circles to say the problem is the ineptness of the coaching staff. Some people would rather go on losing then admit that maybe Coach Bowden is not longer the coach that he use to be. Some people would rather let this team, fall into mediocrity then admit that changes in the coaching staff are what this boat needs to be righted. The good news is their numbers are getting smaller.
Wake Forest showed the truth about our team, they were simply not prepared to play a great football team such as Wake Forest. As good a WF is playing we realistically couldn’t have beaten them anyway, but to have the dream shattered in the first quarter, to watch the team play without spirit and determination. To see them give up and almost go home was more then a fan should have to take. To have some fans debase and ridicule fans for not being true fans, because they left in the third quarter. Why should we stay when the team never should up? This was the most poorly prepared team I have ever witnessed on Bobby Bowden Field, wearing garnet and gold. And I will point out that ABC abandoned them in the third quarter to find a more interesting game.
It was announced today that the Florida – FSU game is at 12:00 noon. One of the greatest rivalries of all time (as voted by ESPN fans) is now being televised in the division mediocrity time slot. Were not even good enough for prime time television anymore.
I don’t what more can be said? I don’t who even cares, that can care? They thumb their noses at us, and said if we don’t like it tough. How many recruits will come next year? How many boosters will pull out next year?
Enough is enough and it’s time for a change. Fire TK Wetherell right now and maybe the next guy will have the balls to change things.
Jon said:
posted on November 13, 2006 9:00 PM — 69.246.161.119 — link — abuse?
Just remember.. The old president told Bowden that is was a bad idea. He told him it violated nepotism laws...What did he get for it? Bowden, the AD and the board of trustees hatred..and old bow-tie eventually retired because of it..They rigged up the org chart to make retardo report to Mickey Andrews (something that is unheard of)...
In comes Wetherall.. Former FSU player.. Supports nepotism..
And I'm not just randomly bashing Wetherall. The guy is GOOD at what he does. I have witnessed him turn TCC into a model community college. I have attended both Santa Fe and TCC, and it is very clear Wetherall knows how to play politics, because TCC budget destroys Santa Fe..And spends a lot of money bringing in top professors.. But I am going to withhold my final judgement of him until this off-season. If he allows Jeff Bowden to continue as OC and doesn't tell Bobby to shove the "ultimatem" up his ass, he has lost my support.
If the best professor at FSU pulled something like that with a TA, their ass would be canned.
Renegade06 said:
posted on November 13, 2006 9:11 PM — 76.169.139.166 — link — abuse?
Man its sad. its a terrible thing, terrible!!! im almost in tears as i read these blogs and watch what happens to this program and most importantly these kids. im a huge FSU fan as well and support them regardless of what they do but there is a time where you as a fan must draw the line. This is becoming more then a game, your dealing with young men's futures here. They come to Florida State with hopes of expousre and guidance of getting them to the next level. They put their trust into the University and into the coaching staff to do that and they just arent living up to their parts of the deal. Players like Lorenzo, Drew, Xavier, Myron, Chris D. Antwone, and a number of others arent be treated fairly in this regard. All of were capable of going ANYWHERE else in the country chose FSU because they thought it was in their best interest and evidently wasnt. Instead they are being told lies and given BS for what, a sub par season and career at the hands of an Inept FSU coaching staff. Lets look at the picture as FSU fans and just college football fans and think about more then just the name and the record but the careers of these young men that are being jeprodized.
Renegade06 said:
posted on November 13, 2006 9:24 PM — 76.169.139.166 — link — abuse?
The biggest thing that will be impacted by this is the recruitng. We recently lost Arrelious Benn to Illinois, ILLINOIS! When have you ever heard anything like this. Not because he didnt like the program but because of the current state the program is in. We didnt land a lot of top prospect this year because of this and wont land a lot because of this. Even the FEW current ones we have are now wavering. Strong finish by Bobby on signing day? i doubt it. Any top offenseive prospects this year or next? i doubt it. The only top prospect we seem to get or have chances with these days are Defensive and those wont last if things stay the way they are. Noel Devine, Marvin Austin, Torrey Davis, Arrelious Benn? NO!!! We dont have the same chances with this type of talent as we did in the past. Our recruiting is falling off and has become nothin short of mediocre. Same can be said to what happend last year with some key talen we lost last minute, can anyone say Fresman of the year C.J Spiller? im glad he chose Clemson because he'd be another Lorenzo Booker or Antwone Smith with the way things look right now.(Both great players, just products of bad coaching)If these two were in a system such as a WVU they'd be Heisman Candidates.
Players we have now but as mentioned above are playing with no heart, no determination, they are giving up which arent characteristics of FSU football and a direct reflection of bad coaching. We dont have the Swagger we had years ago. nor do teams fear us anymnore. Nor do they fear coming in to The Doak and handing us a 30-0 lost. this is what hurts the most.
....Sorry FSU players I feel for you guys i really do
Gator Boys said:
posted on November 14, 2006 12:05 AM — 64.238.162.154 — link — abuse?
Well Renegade I might feel a little bad for the players, but not really. I wish all these good players went somewhere else too. Like you said, they had their chance to go anywhere and they chose FSU. Bad choice, they deserve it
Ash said:
posted on November 14, 2006 6:47 AM — 69.21.116.14 — link — abuse?
Renegade06 (38),
You make a very good point, other teams aren’t afraid to come to our house, to play. Western Michigan 5-2 in the MAC Conference, 7-3 overall, these guys would have normally marked this as a loss on their schedule, and probably did when the season began. They would have come into Doak Campbell thinking lets not let them blow us out. That would have been the best they could hope for. Now what do they have to fear, they know just like everyone else that they stand just as good a chance at winning as anyone. Florida State is only favored by 15 ½ points, two touchdowns over a MAC team, on homecoming!!!!!
In “the good ole days” even when Miami and Florida had better teams, ranked higher, and better records they were still reluctant to play in Tallahassee. This was a house of pain, feared as much as Michigan’s Big House, Clemson’s Death Valley, and Miami’s Orange Bowl. For almost fifteen years the road to the national championship came through Tallahassee, Florida, and once again the road comes here. Not, because two juggernauts Florida and Florida State play each other for winner takes all. No now the road comes here because Florida doesn’t want to stubble going the long way to Atlanta.
Troy proved that if you play hard, and not be intimidated you have a chance to win, remember they only lost by 7 points. Who by the way are 4-0 in the Sun Belt Conference 5-4 overall and looking very good to be bowl eligible. And believe me the Sun Belt ain’t no MAC.
I think it has become very sad that we have to win over the likes of Western Michigan just to be BOWL ELIGIBLE, and were not confident they can do it.
A Nole said:
posted on November 14, 2006 10:28 AM — 65.13.9.169 — link — abuse?
Typical comments from typical UF fans. They're always first to jump on the wagon and bash another school. That's why Gainesville has never had class. Maybe Urban can change that. Just remember UF, you're coming to Tallahassee, so you have your work cut out for you. Go Noles!!
AllEers said:
posted on November 14, 2006 11:23 AM — 162.129.27.201 — link — abuse?
Gatorpilot:
I never thought I'd read a post from a Gator fan talking about the annoyance level of any other team's fans.
"South Carolina fans are the least educated. Bama fans are perhaps the most intense but come across as hobos. LSU fans are annoying and arrogant..."
I find it simply amazing that you can call other fans annoying and arrogant, hobos and uneducated under the presumption that you aren't presently displaying the annoying and arrogant traits to the nth degree.
From prior posts read, I understand that UF bloggers can come up short in the "logic battle", but you take the cake.gatorhippy said:
posted on November 14, 2006 11:50 AM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse?
It seems even Orlando Sentinel columnist David Whitley, a usually stout Bowden supporter, is even getting in on the fun with his letter to Chris Rix...
Gatorpilot said:
posted on November 14, 2006 3:01 PM — 71.42.27.135 — link — abuse?
Cane Nation: (Post #26)
We play tougher, stronger teams than the Canes and FSU on an annual basis. It's called the SEC.
Best of luck,
-Gatorpilot
Jon said:
posted on November 14, 2006 3:45 PM — 69.246.161.119 — link — abuse?
/I will repost this in the main thread once it is available./
First off, I'd like to thank everyone who has stood with us making noise, bringing this issue to the forefront of the media over the past few years. They said our opinions were irrelevant... They said the boosters had no say... But it looks like we showed them! (this ones for you Joe..)
Second (and I hope I'm not alone on this issue), the mutiny is over. We fully support Bowden restoring this program with a new offensive coordinator. The majority of fans had issues with Jeff. The issues with Bobby only came when he created an ultimatum. I really hope Bobby continues with the program, because he does deserve to go out on top and he WILL GO OUT ON TOP.
And lastly, I'd like to see Jeff Bowden stays on the staff and go back to wide receiver coach. Maybe he can learn under this new offensive coordinator and maybe he will return one day and be successful.
It's a wonderful day to be a Seminole! Lets unite, stand together and show W. Michigan and Florida that this is our house.
You guys kick ass!!
Austin said:
posted on November 14, 2006 5:18 PM — 130.74.4.9 — link — abuse?
FSU will benefit from his resignation, even though Bobby Bowden didn't agree with his son's decision, saying "I am disappointed in Jeff's decision," said Bobby Bowden. "I tried my best to encourage him to stay the course, but he was firm in his belief that it is time to move on. This is a big loss to me personally."
volstrike3 said:
posted on November 14, 2006 5:42 PM — 216.103.178.34 — link — abuse?
I could see Richt going back to FSU as the OC for a year or so until Bobby Bowden retires. He has raised the bar at Georgia and really cannot do much better, 3 east titles in five years. The Gators and Vols are on the way back up so he would be smart to leave now. He will have a much better chance to win the conference and go to a BCS game year in and year out in the ACC.
Cane_Nation said:
posted on November 15, 2006 9:14 AM — 205.166.218.38 — link — abuse?
Gatorpilot (post 48)
Yes, you play in the SEC. What conference loaded up the first round of the NFL last year? Maybe that is the reason for the fall of across the board in the ACC. But NO conference is really that strong this year. The SEC is still probably the best conference, but it's not as strong as we all thought at the begining of the year. Tennessee is closer to what they were last year than we all thought, UGA i9s not a good football team (Stafford looks alot like Kyle Wright to me, and that's not a complement), Auburn has played one and a half good games (good against LSU and for one half against UF), Alabama is not good, South Carolina is mediocre, Kentucky and Vandy have taken advantgage of the conference not being as good as advertised, and LSU is better on paper then on turf 4 out of 5 seasons. Right now Arkansas is the only real big boy in the conference(that is from what I've seen, not Tommie T's Star Trekkie rating program).
Plus until you beat us leave the talk for UGA.
And
Joe said:
posted on November 16, 2006 12:12 PM — 65.35.217.174 — link — abuse?
Cane Nation,
You are most refreshing poster with extremely great insight. You are Cane fan that I will always respect. Good luck on getting a top quality coach.
IMO The biggest travesty on college football history in the state of Florida will always be the dropping of UM by the Orange and Blue Cowards.
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Tom Blogical said:
posted on November 12, 2006 11:26 AM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?Unfortunately, I think you're right. I'm hoping Coach Bowden will step down himself rather than be fired. He deserves to have it his own way, as I think he's a living legend, a lot like Coach Paterno.
In all fairness, Wake Forest has been playing great football, and with all the injuries FSU suffered this year, a bad game was bound to happen.
FSU is in a valley right now, but they'll be back with a vengeance soon.