February 16, 2008
QB Ryan Perrilloux walks off the LSU football team?
There's quite a bit of smoke coming from several LSU message boards indicating that QB Ryan Perrilloux has left the Tigers football team.
While I have to urge a HUGE grain of salt, the reports go something like this....
Due to an ongoing dispute between Perrilloux's mother and LSU -- potentially stemming from Ryan's mother trying to shake down the school -- the projected starting quarterback has cleaned out his locker and left the team. Perrilloux reportedly missed a team meeting this week, but his absence is clouded by reports that Perrilloux was attending his father's funeral.
The only aspect that does not seem to be in dispute is that Ryan Perrilloux has cleaned out his locker.
WDSU-TV in New Orleans is reporting the rumors that Perrilloux quit the team, but -- so far -- there's no comment from Perrilloux or the Tigers.
This could be exactly what the rumors say it is, or it could be a confused kid who just lost his father acting out.
Either way, I think we're nearing some kind of school record on off-the-field headlines.
UPDATE
I'm hearing a little more backstory now (which is starting to make this rumor seem more credible, but -- again -- I cannot confirm just yet because no one will comment officially)...
Apparently Perrilloux and the coaching staff have an understanding about certain things that QB must do to stay in LSU's good graces. This all stems from his previous track record. Allegedly broke this agreement 2-3 times in the last two weeks and was threatened with suspension or outright suspended from the team. It is believed that one of the issues was class attendance, missing a team appointment and the other was related to him going somewhere he wasn't supposed to be. So... the coaches met with Perrilloux and the suspension talk came up. This conversation apparently led to Perrilloux's mother threatening to pull the QB off the team. Very shortly thereafter, Perrilloux's father passed away and the QB has not been with the team on campus since then.
That's the update. Still looking for some confirmations, although I understand that everyone at LSU is hesitant to say anything about the situation given the emotions of all involved as well as Perrilloux history of brush-ups with the coaching staff. There may not be an officially comment until Les Miles decides what that comment will be.
Update
LSU Sports Information Director Michael Bonnette has deferred all questions about Perrilloux's eligibility and status to head coach Les Miles. Miles had planned to have a press conference today to announce changes to the coaching staff, but that pressser was apparently cancelled this morning without further update.
The cancellation of the press conference without detail (ie LSU saying the new coach couldn't make it or Miles has a cold) does seem a bit confusing. Bonnette specifically told the media that Miles would address Perrilloux rumors at the press conference, so this may or may not be an indication that there is something more to the story. At this point, the newspapers are asking about the rumor, and that should lead to getting this question resolved very soon - which is in everyone's best interest.
Perrilloux's former high school coach, Larry Dauterive, told the Daily Advertiser that he was also unsure of the QB's status at LSU, but said he had heard that Perrilloux had missed a team meeting. I doubt Perrilloux would have spoken to Dauterive this weekend about the situation. I don't find this particularly significant one way or the other. I guess it's feasible that the QB could turn to his former coach for some advice giving the recent passing of his father, but that does not appear to be the case as of yet.
UPDATE
LSU QB Ryan Perrilloux has suspended indefinitely for "missing class and team activities", as reported by WWL-AM's Deke Bellavia.
"As of right now, Ryan Perrilloux is not on the LSU Football Team. Whether or not he will be let back on the team or not... we hope to find that out in the next few days," reported Bellavia.
Comments:
posted on February 16, 2008 10:45 PM — link — abuse?Kevin Donahue
said:
I don't know how "credible" it is. I really don't. But I know it was reported on the news in New Orleans and it's been on at least three LSU boards. I have a couple emails out there trying to get information, but it really seems like no one really knows for sure at this point.
Zac said:
posted on February 16, 2008 11:01 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
OK, let me set the stage for you guys. My wife & I had just come in from a pleasant evening out together. So, as she sits with her mom watching Glen Close in S Pacific, I decides to pop into Fanblogs to see what's cook'n. I take one look at this headline and aptly state, "WHAT!?!?!?"
I mean seriously folks, wah happen??? Is this Mrs. Mustain, Rd 2? Are these ladies related? More importantly, grain of salt or not, decent recruiting class or not, who's LSU got who has actually taken a snap in a live game; heck, at this point, in a scrimmage?
Here's a team with a seriously talented QB, which had a great chance of claiming a 2nd consecutive SEC crown, not to mention have the inside track to a 2nd consecutive trip to the NC game. With this move, if true, they're likely reduced to 3rd or even 4th place in the SEC West.
Though I must admit, I can't stand parents who think they've given birth to the 2nd coming. If she actually is "shaking down the school" (For God knows what, given the kid's guaranteed to start.), and if he's so immature as to not know his own mind and make his own decisions at this point, I would have to let him go. LSU has nothing to prove; we all know they're a good program. They will recover.
I just hope this is just someone's idea of a sick joke, because the LSU faithful don't deserve this. Neither does Mike the Tiger, for that matter. Though, I'm thinking; should this all be true, I've got a great idea for his next meal. Just a thought.
U. of S. C. 1978 said:
posted on February 17, 2008 12:14 AM — 97.82.188.250 — link — abuse?
Well just how in the heck can a parent realistically expect to get paid by a school these days? More to the point, how can they realistically expect to snatch a student/athlete out of one program and go get money from another? For these reasons, I doubt the basic premise of this honestly reported, "what up with this" story.
Here's what I know. If it is accurate, it can't hurt the Cocks, probably.T-Mac
posted on February 17, 2008 3:28 AM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse? said:
Things happen in life.
Things happen in football.
Life/Football are one & the same.
To athletes/T-Mac, life is football.
If you clean out your locker your done!!!
Plain & Simple.
T-Mac will post when he can.
*T-Mac approved this message.
posted on February 17, 2008 8:17 AM — link — abuse? said:
I've received more than a few emails about this, with a couple of them from folks claiming to be in the know. *MOST* say that something went down, but that Perrilloux will be back at QB once everything settles down. (BTW, I personally believe that RP will be the LSU starter, regardless of what is going on down there at the moment.) More to follow.
1st_and_NOLE
posted on February 17, 2008 8:20 AM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse? said:
I hope this isn't true for LSU's sake. They had a heck of a year last year and even with this guy lost a TON of talent.
If they lose their #1 QB, I'd say that could be a nail in the coffin and they could be headed to a 4-5 loss season.
posted on February 17, 2008 8:41 AM — link — abuse? said:
UPDATE: I'm hearing a little more backstory now (which is starting to make this rumor seem more credible, but -- again -- I cannot confirm just yet because no one will comment officially)...
Apparently Perrilloux and the coaching staff have an understanding about certain things that QB must do to stay in LSU's good graces. This all stems from his previous track record. Allegedly broke this agreement 2-3 times in the last two weeks and was threatened with suspension or outright suspended from the team. It is believed that one of the issues was class attendance, missing a team appointment and the other was related to him going somewhere he wasn't supposed to be. So... the coaches met with Perrilloux and the suspension talk came up. This conversation apparently led to Perrilloux's mother threatening to pull the QB off the team. Very shortly thereafter, Perrilloux's father left passed away and the QB has not been seen on campus since then.
That's the update. Still looking for some confirmations, although I understand that everyone at LSU is hesitant to say anything about the situation given the emotions of all involved as well as Perrilloux history of brush-ups with the coaching staff. There may not be an officially comment until Les Miles decides what that comment will be.1st_and_NOLE
posted on February 17, 2008 10:31 AM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse? said:
So IF Perrilloux is out of the picture entirely and isn't coming back, who else does LSU have as an option at QB?
Do they have anyone with any real game experience or ability or could this cripple them severely at the QB position?
jeff said:
posted on February 17, 2008 1:38 PM — 65.6.114.34 — link — abuse?
BAMAPERRY,
Even if LSU was going to have a "sure 7 loss season" like you said with Ryan P. at QB, that would still put them about two losses better than Alabama. Y'all will lose to LSU again next year (what's that, 6 in a row?). Maybe in 2009 y'all will have a chance to beat LSU (if LSU's team plane goes down mid-flight that is...). By the way, the Iron Bowl should be suspended until Bama can do enough cheating to get them competitive again. Y'all should stick to more realistic rivals at this point like UL-Monroe. Peace.
OU-Ron
posted on February 17, 2008 4:03 PM — 71.16.13.146 — link — abuse? said:
This probably shouldn’t shock anyone, it’s not like he hasn’t been in the news before.
TE should be along a little later to give the skinny on it all…..
Just hit town in Orlando a couple of hours ago, the weather is great……….
schmed said:
posted on February 17, 2008 4:30 PM — 68.155.112.10 — link — abuse?
WDSU had nothing on their website that I could find - for that matter no major NO or BR media sites had anything either.
RP's father passing is, all by itself, newsworthy and his obituary (Philip Breaux) is conspicuously missing from the local media.
HOWever...
If it's even close to what Kevin has encapsulated, both sides come back to the table once the funeral is over. But if RP won't live up to his commitments, he'll just have to walk - that is if he still can after Kirston Pittmon gets through with him.
Geauxtigers0107 said:
posted on February 17, 2008 9:40 PM — 144.5.224.142 — link — abuse?
Where do these inbred redneck clowns come from...(post 13)? Ditto on worrying about NOT getting your ass kicked again in the Iron Bowl, much less beating ULM.
What a cock holster.
It amazes me how a kid with so much talent keeps getting his name in the papers for the wrong reasons. I hope things work out and he comes back because God knows we're thin at QB in regards to playing time. Equally amazing is the fact that TE hasn't commented yet. Maybe he's still digging.
Geaux SEC
Geaux TigersRamblin' Gator said:
posted on February 17, 2008 9:42 PM — 143.127.131.4 — link — abuse?
#15: OU-Ron, Welcome to O-town! Ironically, I took off for Sarasota this morning.
I tend to agree with your point of view. If this story proves to be true, the most surprising part of this story could be that RP lasted as long as he did. Another sad waste of talent, ruined by ego and personal troubles.
Q said:
posted on February 17, 2008 9:55 PM — 68.108.234.10 — link — abuse?
If WDSU had a report about such a big story in Louisiana, don't you think there would be some evidence on its own Web site? If the blogger saw the report (or verified it by calling the station to ask) then I'll believe it, but so far I've seen nothing but this WDSU thing being passed from board to board to blog, now.
When I see a WDSU link with a story or video, then I'll believe WDSU had a report about it. I'm not saying there's nothing going on, but people are throwing out "WDSU said" with nothing else to back it up. If you can show me the WDSU story, that would be great. If not, tell me how you confirmed the station did the report, please?
Cowbell05 said:
posted on February 18, 2008 1:28 AM — 70.152.88.87 — link — abuse?
Bamaperry, #13
"Losing Perrilloux may actually help them turn a sure 7 loss season into a 5 loss season."
You really think that LSU is/was going to lose 7 games with Perrilloux? Theres no way. So your telling me that they will win more games starting a r/s freshman than they would with Perrilloux? Come on now be real.
Jeff, #14
Y'all will lose to LSU again next year (what's that, 6 in a row?).
If LSU loses Perrilloux then I think I'm gonna say that Bama will spank that ass next year. I'd bet on it for sure.
OU-Ron
posted on February 18, 2008 6:50 AM — 71.16.13.146 — link — abuse? said:
@21 Ramblin Gator Thanks, I actually ran the AC all night and I have a great view of the pool area from my room, great view by the way...
@22 Bevo, No Disney World for me, strictly business trip, but if I see them around the resort, I'll give them your best....
TE must be writing an essay or has his Dick Tracy hat on trying to find out what's going on with Perrilloux, I bet he'll be here soon with his .02
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on February 18, 2008 8:16 AM — 192.91.75.29 — link — abuse? said:
Bevo, RP had verbally committed to Texas, before pulling a Darrell Scott, and bolting to another team on Signing Day. Maybe a good thing, because if he was getting in trouble like that in Louisiana he would have been screwed being in the environment that is Austin.
gOSU27, It is a little different considering that Clarett was a way more important part of yall's Championship team. RP was a back-up to Flynn. I saw him play a couple of times, but i don't think everyone should be laying roses at this kid's feet, until he has started a full season. Even if RP does not come back next season don't be discouraged LSU fans just because no one has never heard of a QB doesn't mean there isn't a good one in the wings! Think MCcoy and Bradford!
HookEmHorns!
BAMAPERRY said:
posted on February 18, 2008 9:56 AM — 70.149.218.128 — link — abuse?
RP was given a new SUV to sign with Texas. He was on the take, which is why Saban stayed away from him. In walks Miles and he backstabs the Texas boosters and signs with LSU. Obviously on the take, LSU offered him more than Texas did.
TE
posted on February 18, 2008 10:17 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
We first heard something about it earlier in the week, but it was a rumor...We had guys (and gals) on our site start alluding to issues on Friday during the afternoon...and a local radio guy was saying something about it during his lunchtime show, as well...
I've been told the situation is very fluid, and I haven't really had time to check in my site, but at this point...I dunno...
I can tell you that the kid lost his father...and I'm sure that's a tough thing to go through for anyone...much less a mercurial, multitalented kid with a penchant for puzzling behaviour...
When I know more, I'll post more, but I can tell you that we may be looking at getting Jarret Lee-a four star kid out of Texas two years ago-a lot of snaps in the Spring...
I am with Kev at this point, though...I think he's in P&G and on the field in Death Valley when we kick off versus App State this fall...
Or...maybe I should say I hope...
I really wish this kid the best...This is the 2nd straight offseason Kevin & I have shared e-mails about this kid and off-the-field incidents and issues...Or is it the third? I lose track...
TE
posted on February 18, 2008 10:24 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
BAMAPERRY,
Thanks for rolling off your sisterwife long enough to blind us with that Nostradamus-esque bit of prognostication...No doubt brought about after long and careful study of returning rosters, depth charts, and coaching staff changes heading into the SEC offseason...
I know I speak for all of us when I beg you to keep those salient observations pouring in...
Hugs & Kisses,
-TE-
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on February 18, 2008 10:34 AM — 192.94.94.106 — link — abuse? said:
Thanks BAMAPERRY glad you got the inside scoop on Texas corrupt recruiting ways. Don't I remember another team nearly getting the NCAA "Death Penalty" back when was it '02 or '03? It's just such a suprise that these schools that people claim use all these corrupt ways while recruiting don't ever get caught especially when there is such a microscope placed on the recruiting process these days.
HookEmHornsBayouBengal said:
posted on February 18, 2008 11:28 AM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
LSU football coach Les Miles will not hold a press conference today as previously scheduled, according to Sports Information Director Michael Bonnette. The press conference was originally scheduled to announce coaching changes within the LSU football staff.
Miles would have likely been questioned about the status of rising junior quarterback Ryan Perrilloux.
Oh well.....let the rumors continue!
posted on February 18, 2008 11:43 AM — link — abuse? said:
UPDATE: LSU Sports Information Director Michael Bonnette has deferred all questions about Perrilloux's eligibility and status to head coach Les Miles. Miles had planned to have a press conference today to announce changes to the coaching staff, but that pressser was apparently cancelled this morning without further update.
The cancellation of the press conference without detail (ie LSU saying the new coach couldn't make it or Miles has a cold) does seem a bit confusing. Bonnette specifically told the media that Miles would address Perrilloux rumors at the press conference, so this may or may not be an indication that there is something more to the story. At this point, the newspapers are asking about the rumor, and that should lead to getting this question resolved very soon - which is in everyone's best interest.
Perrilloux's former high school coach, Larry Dauterive, told the Daily Advertiser that he was also unsure of the QB's status at LSU, but said he had heard that Perrilloux had missed a team meeting. I doubt Perrilloux would have spoken to Dauterive this weekend about the situation. I don't find this particularly significant one way or the other. I guess it's feasible that the QB could turn to his former coach for some advice giving the recent passing of his father, but that does not appear to be the case as of yet.
posted on February 18, 2008 11:48 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Kevin: Your quote from above: "Very shortly thereafter, Perrilloux's father left passed away and the QB has not been with the team on campus since then."
Maybe it's a typo, but what is 'left passed away'? Did he 'leave' or did he 'pass away', or neither?
TE: Sisterwife! LMAO!
Zac said:
posted on February 18, 2008 3:35 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
Ryan Perrilloux, this one’s for you.
I understand your Dad has recently passed on. My heart breaks for you. My Dad is 85 years old; we are very close. The older he gets, the greater the chance he’ll be joining your Dad. When it happens, I know I’ll hurt for having lost him at least as much as you now hurt at having lost yours. Trust in the fact that it’s a good pain you’re feeling, son; your dad’s in a better place.
As you read this, if you do read this, you may wonder why it is your dad is gone, while my dad still lives. I don’t have the answer to that. You see, my mom passed away back in 1991. I was as close to her as I am to my dad. I understand your mom is still around. I could easily wonder the same about your mom as you may be wondering about my Dad. But, ultimately, someone greater than both of us has control over that. (On a side note, I rather hope your Dad doesn’t run into my mom. She’s likely to tell him everything I’ve been doing wrong and what she’d do to fix it, were she still alive. Oh, well…)
Now, I know you’re a popular individual; you attract a lot of attention. Your position and talent has been both a blessing and a curse. Likely, no one ever told you it wouldn’t be easy at your age. I'm not talking about fame as much as I'm talking about responsibility. Truth is, responsibility is never is easy at any age. I’m not even famous, and it’s all too often difficult for me.
So, if I have any advise for you, not that you need my advise (God knows, probably everyone gives you some.), get through this time at your own pace. Come to grips with what’s really important. It would be easy to tell you what everyone has probably told you already; i.e. do what’s right for you. Instead, I would have you take that one step further. Just do what’s right. Knowing what’s right isn’t always easy; sometimes we just have to guess. But, if you can at least do that, you’ll likely come out of this, and most everything else thrown your way, on top.
My prayers are with you and your family this day.
BayouBengal said:
posted on February 18, 2008 4:02 PM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
To my fellow Tiger faithful and to whom ever else it may concern!
My sources tell me that Perrilloux will highly unlikely be in an LSU uniform this year.
He can no longer handle the pressure's of being LSU's QB!
I'm gonna caravan to Jeannette PA. this week, and start playing the LSU fight song!
Geaux Tigers!
SumOne said:
posted on February 18, 2008 4:06 PM — 74.226.137.24 — link — abuse?
Hard to figure if this would be a nightmare or dream come true for ESPN. Why? Check out the Tiger's schedule come Aug. 30th @ 8:00pm. That's right kids, it's those loveable giant killers from ASU. The game is already being hyped as "The Battle of the National Champions" with the side battle between Heisman candidates Perriloux and Armanti Edwards. No way LSU can afford to loose this one with the price they put on this game ($550K this year plus $200K for last years buyout, which incidentially sent the Happy Appys to Ann Arbor for that little day in history). That's a hefty price tag to chance a ruined season. No way Les & co. let Perriloux walk and Mommy knows it! No way!
TE
posted on February 18, 2008 4:12 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
SumOne,
Too bad Armanti Edwards isn't there anymore...
To the rest of you that actually follow college football, Perrilloux is suspended indefinitely as per WWL in New Orleans...
Oh, and Bayou Bengal...LSU is being quite tight lipped for a reason...I'm pretty close to POSITIVE that they don't know because the head man hasn't made a decision past the suspension, yet, himself...
This is the 2nd straight offseason Ryan's been suspended for Mickey Mouse stuff, and while the act's wearing thin, and I think he's a kid that's in possession of a spectacular ability as a football player, it's matched only by a spectacularly bad decision making skillset...
Les Miles won't make this decision anytime soon...I'm guessing he MAY be back for 7 on 7, and Ryan will be forced to walk a tighter rope than last year (When it's alleged he actually didn't finish his community service for the Casino escapade)...
If Ryan thought the pressure was on before, he's had not even a club...
He's in the crucible now...
posted on February 18, 2008 4:13 PM — link — abuse? said:
LSU QB Ryan Perrilloux has suspended indefinitely for "missing class and team activities", as reported by WWL-AM's Deke Bellavia.
"As of right now, Ryan Perrilloux is not on the LSU Football Team. Whether or not he will be let back on the team or not... we hope to find that out in the next few days," reported Bellavia.
SumOne said:
posted on February 18, 2008 4:29 PM — 74.226.137.24 — link — abuse?
Hey TE
Too bad Armanti Edwards isin't where anymore? Baton Rouge? Obviously you're a little lite here on your college football knowledege. Do you even know who in the world Armanti Edwards is? I expect you don't and I'm sure you've never seen him play.
Edwards is the QB for "A"-SU, not "L"-SU, and by last count he has two years of elgibility left seeing as how he will be a junior for this game.
Can he be the difference maker in a game like this? Ask Lloyd Carr. Is LSU in trouble without Perriloux. I like their chances better with than without.
posted on February 18, 2008 4:38 PM — link — abuse? said:
At this point, Perrilloux has been suspended indefinitely at least two times that we know of - three if you count holding him out of the practices last year.
I think you have to make a tough decision for the sake of the team. If it were me, I tell him to pack up and head out (if he hasn't already).
posted on February 18, 2008 4:47 PM — link — abuse? said:
Update from Rivals.com.....
LSU coach Les Miles announced that quarterback Ryan Perrilloux has been indefinitely suspended from the football team.
"Ryan has been suspended indefinitely due to his failure to follow team rules," Miles said.Miles said Perrilloux's status for spring practice is uncertain at this time and that he would not comment any further on the situation.
BayouBengal said:
posted on February 18, 2008 4:48 PM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
Kev#52,
That was my point exactly in my post#46!
From what I've been told by some close nit people!
I'm pretty sure LSU is cutting there losses with RP, b/c they can't risk not preparing Jarret Lee and the other QB's.....just in case RP has another mishap right before or during this season!
IMPO.....he's out the door!
posted on February 18, 2008 5:39 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
To have the leader of your team constantly getting 'suspended indefinitely' is hazardous to the morale of your team. To borrow the T.O. term, (not TE) he's a cancer, and he needs to be removed. One guy, when he's your QB, CAN bring down an entire team.
I'm sure they have a few more in the stable that can replace him.
TE
posted on February 18, 2008 6:38 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Ryan's on thin ice...The player's council kept him on the team last year because the seniors knew they had a great shot at a championship, which they pulled off, thanks to his MVP performance in the conference championship game.
The problem here is that other than these missed practices and meetings, I'm not sure exactly what Ryan's done...There isn't a lot of info about his exact transgressions out there...Which is odd, because they'll usually turn up...The Mustain Mom deal is actually 180 from what's come out from other sources today, for example...
If it's simply the fact that Ryan didn't check with the staff before missing some time, meetings, classes, and weight sessions with the team, then that's pretty simple...
But, the bottom line here is I think the team is about to buck Ryan out of the saddle...He may be at a point where the staff can't force him on the roster anymore...
As for replacements...What we're hearing is that if Jarrett Lee takes the reigns, they won't be given back...
We've also signed a 4* kid who was the sleeper of the century in Jordan Jefferson...6-4, 200 pounds...He went 21-0 as a starter in HS for Acadiana, but he broke his hand his junior year.
AHS was 6-0, and he'd thrown for 1300 yards and 12 touchdowns through those six games, as a first year starter...He broke it on current LSU D-Lineman Drake Nevis' helmet during a game, coincidentally...
They went 15-0, he threw for 3,500 yards plus, and rushed for over 500, I think...He was the best QB in the state, and they won the 5A state championship, LA's largest classification...
He can throw 60 yards through the air...I've witnessed it...
We're just fine at QB, though we're green as hell...
I'd rather give up 2008 to be loaded for frickin' bear in 2009 with a guy whose going to give us three more years with one already under his belt than worry week-to-week about Ryan's tendencies...
The players seem to be, as well...
The coaches are a different story...This one may end up being a tempest in a teapot, though the team may end up proving it to be a straw that truly broke the camel's back...
Zac said:
posted on February 18, 2008 7:11 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
TE, I have to agree with you. The crying shame and sinful waste though it may be, it's also unfair to hold the rest of the team hostage for one guy. (I alluded to this in Post #4.)
I don't know how close Ryan was to his dad; I'm certainly sorry the man passed away, and his passing has to have had some effect on his son. However, what excuses are to be used for his other antics?
It really is a shame, given all that he is throwing away. However, his team doesn't deserve the BS; they have the right to move on. And I agree; other than being green, there's nothing wrong with those who stand behind Mr. Perrilloux. One of them will have stepped up and made himself known to the country as LSU's leader before next season's end.
BayouBengal said:
posted on February 19, 2008 9:55 AM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
LSU will be fine with JL! (maybe)
Jarret Lee was a legend in Texas! He is a strong 6'3" signal caller who threw for 3500yds and 40 td's as a Jr.! He was also invited to be a part of the elite 11 in high school! (if you want to know the prestige of the HS elite 11.....google it!)
He was raised to be a QB......and is already polished well enough to take the reigns at LSU!
He's not just some specimen(like Russell), that had great athletic ability.....he's a true QB.....thats what he does.......he's also a coach's kid, and we all know the mindset of a coach's kid!
He may be a true frosh......but this has been done by many true freshman before......
1)Tim Tebow
2)Colt McCoy
3)Sam Bradford.....to name a few!LSU also has one of the countries best O-line's returning, complementing the prestigeous RB stable they have stockpiled....all this should help ease him into transition.
If Jarret Lee starts this year.....he will break every LSU(and some ncaa)record out there!
Crowton, now has 6 months to buuild his brilliant offense around J Lee......time to scratch the option at LSU....and start airing it out!
Keep the faith LSU.......Geaux Tigers!
TE
posted on February 19, 2008 10:09 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Bayou Bengal,
I'm the biggest homer out there, but LSU isn't going to break any passing records with Jarret Lee next year...We'll probably lean option far more heavily...If you think we're going to air it out with a RS Frosh when we've got the stable of running back talent and an efficient run-blocking game like we have, you're dreaming...
Crowton's entire offense is a modified spread option...The pistol...All of those elements, with Miles infusing the I & traditional aspects...
Oh, and he'll be a RS Freshman...Just like McCoy & Sam Bradford...In other words...None of the three you mentioned were true frosh...
To compare Tebow's true freshman season to theirs is a little apples & oranges, anyway...They had a talented starter with four years of experience, two running that offense, that he merely spelled...
In 2005, he was their Ryan Perrilloux, only not as much of a passer...
We'll be just fine, because Gary "The Wizard" (The player's nickname for him) Crowton is a brilliant playcaller, but we aren't about to air it out...
Having said that, if Lee gets the nod, he'll be the starter for the next three years...
TE
posted on February 19, 2008 10:24 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
I hadn't caught mine in time...Your clarification wasn't up there...But, it's duly noted...
I share your optimism...I think we're a darkhorse national title contender with Perrilloux...But, then again, if you think about what I keep referring to as his mercurial tendencies, do we really have a shot? Not if we're waiting week-to-week to make sure Ryan makes curfew...
No player is larger than the program...None.
BayouBengal said:
posted on February 19, 2008 10:34 AM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
TE, I hear ya.....I loved our title shot chances with Perrilloux......but I'm ready to cut my loses and see if Crowton can spin his brilliant option/pistol offense into an air attack with a nice steady dose of the run!
I would like to see J Lee used as a pocket passer/signal caller, bc thats what he is......not as an option QB.
U. of S. C. 1978 said:
posted on February 19, 2008 10:43 AM — 97.82.188.250 — link — abuse?
How about this thought guys? Young Ryan might feel he has earned some special status and/or leniency due to his accomplishments, during his family emergency? Has he? My opinion. Yes.
He probably feels, "in light of my accomplishments, considering my families incredible pain, screw you and your", "team rules".Geauxtigers0107 said:
posted on February 19, 2008 11:49 AM — 144.5.224.142 — link — abuse?
I've read that Ryan and his biological father had a very rocky relationship and that the missed workouts, classes and a team meeting happened before Mr Breaux passed. (RIP)
I tend to agree (as painful as it is) to cut the losses with RP and move on. The only solice we have is that this happened now and not during the season, hence ample time to prepare Jarrett Lee and Mr. Hatch.
I also read the same stats on the Jordan Jefferson. Man what a kid. He's got all the potential.....but so did RP.
Only time will tell. '09 should be a season of great optimism. The schedule will be back in LSU's favor with all of the "tough" games being in Death Valley, the same way they were for the '03 and '07 Championship seasons.
I still can't wait for '08 though. Pittman coming back, RJ Francois, and a young frosh by the name of Patrick Johnson. He should see immediate playing time. Chad Jones with more experience...the list could go on and on and on. But I won't bore you with it.
Geaux SEC
Geaux TigersGeauxtigers0107 said:
posted on February 19, 2008 1:02 PM — 144.5.224.142 — link — abuse?
LMAO....
That's almost as funny as "roll off your sister/wife"....but not quite.
That one may be the best of all time. I thought I captured it with "inbred redneck clown" but after reading "sister/wife"..I have to tip my LSU cap to you. I reserve the right to use that down the road IYDM.
Later
Geaux SEC
Geaux TigersLennie Collins
posted on February 19, 2008 1:07 PM — 68.92.148.40 — link — abuse? said:
All you Louisiana State Tigers fans...Hopefully if Ryan Perilloux HAS NOT been going to class Leslie can show that winning isn't the only thing that matters at LSU. In other words...Rules and standards are more important than winning. TE, Post 71, let Ol' Ryan make it. Shirley Hemphill is good people! I believe LSU will still function without Ryan at the driving wheel!
Big Tide said:
posted on February 19, 2008 1:47 PM — 71.49.27.214 — link — abuse?
This could all be a "come to Jesus" moment for the young man. Maybe he can get his life together (no telling what's gone on that isn't being reported) and get back with the team. While you have to tip your hat to Turtleneck for getting stern, don't you think we should wait until spring ball starts to make a decision on this? If the kid isn't there for spring ball I would guess he's gone for good.
Geauxtigers0107 said:
posted on February 19, 2008 2:06 PM — 144.5.224.142 — link — abuse?
TE: I forget where I heard about Fanblogs. I wasn't even a "blogger" until I came here. Seems like it was a "word of mouth" thing from a friend. I mainly visit for the entertainment value...there are alot of good comedians on here. And they share my passion with college football so it was a definite fit. I would call myself a "TE" in the works: quick witted minus the eloquence...or should I say vocabulary. Don't let your head swell anymore than it is...lol.
Kevin has got me hooked though. I'm on AT LEAST twice a day, especially when I'm at work ;)
post 73: clearly, Miles is at the end of his rope with RP. It's got to be a tough spot to be in..the rules need to apply to the whole team, not just the starting QB (star, if you will). By the same token, winning football games in today's world is what keeps these coaches in a job. He has to show discipline (which he's doing) yet still put out a good product (wins). I don't think "Leslie"-as you so fondly refer to him- has anything to worry about in the latter regard, but if-as indicated above-the team is tired of RP's antics, it's time to pull the chord.
Geaux SEC
Geaux TigersTE
posted on February 19, 2008 2:09 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
WEA,
images.google.com is your friend!
BigTide,
LSU dismissed a cornerback, its starter at right tackle, and then his backup/new starter at right tackle in the last offseason...
That's right, our entire depth chart at RT the offseason before we won a national title. We played Carnell Stewart, who had a spring & fall camp's worth of experience at the position (he switched from D-Line), and a true freshman D-lineman in Joe Barksdale (himself a D-line player in HS).
We also suspended Ryan last offseason, and also for our game against ya'll. That's right, we played with no backup on the road against 'Bama...
Les is NOT afraid to run a tight ship...
The problem here is that skipped workouts and a meeting is not enough to dismiss him from the team...But, the sum is more than its parts, if you will...Miles can't dismiss him, but Ryan's at the point where this team won't play for him...
I think there's a high likelihood that if they will, he'll be eligible for spring...and if not, he won't be back afterwards...
He's done some seemingly irreprable harm to his status as a leader of the team...and he absolutely has to be in his position. Right now-and arguably not ever-he absolutely is not...
Ryan's treading dangerously close to a Marcus Vick like career arc, only subtract the underage chicks and booze...
Bleed Crimson
posted on February 19, 2008 3:12 PM — 72.146.23.240 — link — abuse? said:
haha i just listened to what Jim Rome had to say on the issue. huge fan.
"I think we should have seen this coming. a red flag might have come up during his recruiting process. he said he was committed to texas all the way through. all the while lying to a well-respected mack brown, and recruiting blue-chippers to LSU.
He also was quoted in a press conference saying, 'I'm ready to come in and take VY's starting job for the 05 season'.......hmm. that just so happens to be the year VY dominates college football.
I personally wish the guy the best, with missing classes being the least of his issues."gotta love Jim Rome. he also mentioned something about him counterfeiting. who knows? the guys a complete thug. further proof that Les Miles has no control over his players.
Big Tide said:
posted on February 19, 2008 3:28 PM — 71.49.27.214 — link — abuse?
TE #79, while in the context of our rivalry I have to give Coach Miles the needle, but he learned how to do things the right way up in Michigan and I have tons of respect for the way he runs his program. At the end of the day these coaches want to try and make a difference in these kid's lives and it surely hurts to lose one with so much talent. Marcus Vick. Is he the poster child for "Loser" or what?
BayouBengal said:
posted on February 19, 2008 3:33 PM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
BleedCrimson,
RP wasn't with the team last year when we beat Bama......so we won't need him to beat you this year as well!
Also.....if you want to know about who's got complete control of there players, then read my post#42
P.S. Jim Rome is a VaGina McGinstein!
Geaux Tigers!
TE
posted on February 19, 2008 4:22 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
BigTide,
This post isn't for you, or Rammer...More for guys like SHA, Mr. Kotex Heavy Flow Day Bleeding Crimson, & Unclebrother BAMAPERRY...
Talk about program control! Why, that Nick Saban can recruit 'em, coach 'em up, and keep 'em straight, can't he?
Just ask Mr. Jeremy Elder, who got arrested for holding two students up at gunpoint over in Tuscaloser Saturday Night!
I see that Nick made sure "character counts" starting with that very first recruiting class, didn't he? Mr. Luther "I lie through my teeth and hope I don't get caught" Davis, and now with Mr. Elder getting Fulmer Cup points...
All I can say is, "Fellas, how's that glass house working out for ya'll?"
(This is the part where you log off for awhile, Bleed Crimson...Just push the keyboard away)
xoxoxoxox,
-TE-
TE
posted on February 19, 2008 4:23 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Threatening to pop a cap at the Capstone...
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/stories/2008/02/19/elder_0220.html
Geauxtigers0107 said:
posted on February 19, 2008 4:55 PM — 144.5.224.142 — link — abuse?
WEA post 79: Thx for clearing that up for me. See how little I know about this stuff..lol. I'm definitely more of a reader then.
I guess while we're running police records out there:
http://www.thestate.com/gamecocks/story/321178.html
Go Lamecocks!
j/k guys. Every school has kids who can't stay away from trouble. The key word, of course, is kids.Geaux SEC
Geaux Tigers
posted on February 19, 2008 5:33 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Big Tide: I like your angle in post #82. We ought to do a thread on who the biggest losers are/were in CFB history. By that, I mean guys who had the talent and opportunity, but squandered the chance through a variety of means:
1) Drug and alcohol trouble
2) Piss-poor grades (functionally retarded)
3) Leaving for the draft way too early
4) Choosing to either switch positions, or transfer schools abruptly
5) Significant criminal behavior
6) The old standard of 'unspecific violation of team rules'
You stole my thunder with Marcus Vick, but there are quite a few others. Maybe we can get a consensus:
WE WILL NOW TAKE NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR FOR BIGGEST LOSERS IN CFB HISTORY:
I hereby nominate (one per post, please) Maurice Clarrett, from Ohio State.
gOSU27 said:
posted on February 19, 2008 5:44 PM — 207.74.25.36 — link — abuse?
WEA- your right. 6 ypc...a National Championship...going to one of the greatest schools in the nation....had pro characteristics....His life was made....Heck, I would do anything to be that good at football and he wastes his talent.
Geauxtigers0107 said:
posted on February 19, 2008 6:22 PM — 144.5.224.142 — link — abuse?
Bayou....exactly the one who came to me first...Cecil the Diesel.
Ran for nearly 8000 yds in high school.
Ran for nearly 600 in 4 games @ LSU.Just couldn't stop climbing through bedroom windows.
Geaux SEC
Geaux TigersBig Tide said:
posted on February 19, 2008 6:41 PM — 71.49.27.214 — link — abuse?
@TE #84; no problem, and I'm not throwing any stones because trying to keep some of these kids straight is like herding cats or pushing a rope - it just doesn't work. I think some of my Tide brethren are just overly excited...
@WEA #90, hey OU Ron and all you Sooners, I nominate Marcus Dupree! Big as mule and ran like a deer but never got out of the Switzer doghouse. I might be dating myself a little, but I remember when that kid came up he had Big Time written all over him. Didn't he finally just quit football?
posted on February 19, 2008 6:50 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
BT: What about that kid at Bama you were talking about the other day, the one with the bad work ethic? Joe King? Was that his name?
Who was that kid out of Nebraska, Lawrence Phillips. What was his problem he floundered in the pros? Arrest record?
OU-Ron
posted on February 19, 2008 7:20 PM — 71.16.13.146 — link — abuse? said:
@95 Big Tide, yeah Dupree came from Philadelphia Mississippi, one of the best RB's that Switzer ever recruited and that's saying a lot, he got home sick right in the middle of the season and went home to Mom.
He tryed pro ball for a while with the Rams ( I believe ) but never made it, what a waste of pure talent....
GeauxTigers86 said:
posted on February 20, 2008 12:49 AM — 76.105.207.11 — link — abuse?
this is 100% unsubstantiated rumor, but heard from a student who is friends with someone on the team that RP was caught w drugs, cocaine, either on him or tested postive for them. If true, it might explain all the cloak and dagger routine by the school, and Les not knowing how to handle it just yet. i sure hope its NOT true. want to see him at the reigns of this offense as a FT starter. But, even if not true, if he is repeating his attitude-based issues, I agree with the others who have said it may be best for the team to cut him loose for good. another possible P-word victim - potential!
Bleed Crimson
posted on February 20, 2008 3:34 AM — 72.146.23.240 — link — abuse? said:
TE:
the difference is, who is Jeremy Elder?
i had never heard of him. Nick Saban probably hadnt either. he wouldve been a redshirt freshman this upcoming season. he was a nobody. an idiot that commited first-degree robbery for $26. i for one hope he never steps foot in tuscaloosa again.Perrilloux, on the other hand, was supposed to lead yalls team next season. hes toast. what a loser. mannn.... and thus, the downfall of the LSU program.
I guess we all knew the wheels would fall off for Les Miles eventually. losing 2 games a year with the best talent in the land. c'mon les.
your star QB quits the team?
c'mon les.
you cant land a top 10 recruiting class after winning the national championship?
COME ON LES!TE, i wish you and all the tigers the best of luck in fighting for 3rd in the west this year.
Its gonna be smooth sailing for the tide in the fall.
If we dont go to atlanta this year, we never will.Big Tide said:
posted on February 20, 2008 6:28 AM — 12.208.88.211 — link — abuse?
@WEA #96; Joe King and Lenny Patrick both deserve to be on your list.
@OU #97; I didn't realize Dupree was from Philadelphia, MS, interesting. Makes you wonder how things might have turned out if he had gone somewhere like Southern Miss or State.
1st_and_NOLE
posted on February 20, 2008 8:57 AM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse? said:
Well...
Without RP...
The LSU - App St game just got A LOT more interesting.
With the absence of RP, does App St have what it takes to pull off back-to-back monster upsets???
If so...
Which would be the bigger upset? App St over Michigan or potentially App St over LSU.
U. of S. C. 1978 said:
posted on February 20, 2008 9:06 AM — 97.82.188.250 — link — abuse?
#88 OK Geaux. Thanks for posting that up. I submit, as others have, that keeping "all" of a bunch of young men out of trouble, is just damn impossible. There are degrees of trouble, as we all understand. Smoking a little a weed makes you less aggressive, stealing at gunpoint, very aggressive. A coaches viewpoint might be, gimme that guntoter. Maybe I can teach him not to wear such a distinctive cap while he is robbing.
This whole subject reminds me that I am in favor of student athletes receiving funds sufficient to allow them to live in style. They contribute to the cash cow, the majority will not go to the NFL. College should be their NFL.BayouBengal said:
posted on February 20, 2008 10:11 AM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
BleedCrimson,
There is no doubt in my mind that it took you 2 hours to write all that garbage in your post #101.
You know how I know this?
B/C you posted it at 3:34 IN THE MORNING!!!
Get a life dude.......seriously!
LSU is #1 right now.....in both, the SEC and the NCAA.......just like FL was coming into last year!
So.......for you to write off LSU b/c of RP's suspension is.....well, just ignorant.....and I beg you to bring that attitude into Tiger Stadium this season!
Your just punk a who decided to grow a pair b/c of LSU's misfortunes......when, you should be worried about your Tide not the Tigers! (you guys lost to UL Monroe, not us!)
Stop talking like you've got a chip on your shoulder, and try having a discussion!
Big Tide, your right when you said your brethren are a little too excited!
Geauxtiger, check out this shoeless "could of been"
SumOne said:
posted on February 20, 2008 11:09 AM — 74.226.138.4 — link — abuse?
1st_and_NOLE,
Great question on #103. Check out post 47 & 50, I hit that two days ago with the ESPN angle (it is their game and, yes, it is TRUE, it may even make it over to the alphabet network). I don't think the LSU people have a clue as to what happened at Michigan and I'm certain that they're already looking past this game. I'm certain Les Miles won't look past it, but man, if the players go at that game like their fans, hold on. They may be reigning national champs, but were they the best team in the SEC? I sure would have loved to have seen UGA-LSU down at the wire. That would have been closer to a N.C. game than OSU.
posted on February 20, 2008 11:43 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Fearless Prediction Alert by Bleed Crimson in post #101: Tide in the SEC championship game this year.
To anyone caring to wager against Bleed Crimson, I offer the following service at no cost: Both parties can deposit the wager into my Paypal account, which I will hold, then disperse upon conclusion of Alabama's SEC title run.
Actually, I'd like to wager $100 against him. Anyone volunteer to hold the money for us?
We probably shouldn't be using fanblogs to gamble, so we'll have to use code speak. So Kevin doesn't figure this out, we'll call the proposition above Operation Are You F*cking Kidding Me?
Keep it on the down-low....
TE
posted on February 20, 2008 12:46 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
2:34AM on a Wednesday morning, and Mr. Kotex Heavy Flow weighs in with that...
Hmm...I guess we'll pass it off as drunken irrational exuberance, to mangle and steal a term from Mr. Greenspan...
As such, I'll leave it be, as it was so galactically stupid, I temporarily had my IQ lowered for a moment after reading it...
SumOne,
We know VERY well who Appalachian State is...The team we beat 24-0 two years ago in Tiger Stadium is coming back...and they're a team that runs the spread option...and we faced it against Florida, and our defense faced it week in and week out in 7 on 7 since we run a modified version of it...
Armanti Edwards would not start on any team running the spread in the SEC...and while he might start on some FBS teams that do run it, ASU doesn't scare me...
LSU isn't Michigan...We're not a 4-5 loss caliber team. We have a far more athletic and talented defense that has All Conference lineman, linebackers, and secondary players returning. Our offense-with or without Ryan Perrilloux-returns 4 of 5 starters, including projected 1st rounders in LT Ciron Black & LG Herman Johnson (Both of those were All-SEC'ers as well). We have two 4* quarterbacks behind Perrilloux, though admittedly we're green. We have two all-conference caliber running backs in Keiland Williams & Charles Scott, backed up by Crazylegs Murphy & the fastest man in collegiate football and Olympic hopeful Trindon Holliday.
We have the most experienced, deepest, and talented wide receiver corp in the conference, and just signed the best class of WR in the SEC...
We return an All-SEC tight end in Richard Dickson who caught 2 TD's in the NCG...
We don't overlook ANYONE...Not our team...Not our fans...NO ONE...
You've done quite the job of trying to drum up some sort've "overconfident" "attitudnal" mindset amongst the LSU Fanbase which does not exist...Try as you might, the shoe won't fit, unless it's in that lively little mind of yours...
Either way, ASU's going to get treated like Jimmy Caan in Kathy Bates' bedroom this fall...
ESPN has also talked about pumping this matchup up, as well...the first ever meeting of two Defending National Champions in College Football has a ring to it, and your rings and the big W over Big Blue do give you some buzz...
Enjoy your buzz while it lasts...
LSU will be quite the buzzkill come this fall, though...
Geauxtigers0107 said:
posted on February 20, 2008 12:49 PM — 144.5.224.142 — link — abuse?
Bayou:
Thx for the link. Oh, what could have been......?SumOne:
This Tiger fan isn't looking past Ap St for sure. And I don't think the team is either. Ap St won't be able to sneak up on anyone anymore. They are definitely a quality team. With RP out, the dynamic of the game certainly changes. But with ample time to groom a replacement for RP, the Tigers should come out on top...key word being should. Then again...Mich "should" have came out on top too.That was one thing I liked about Saban. He always stressed that the most important game is "the next one." With that approach, you won't take anyone lightly.
WEA:
"Operation - AYFKM?"
To borrow a line from Larry TCG - I don't care who you are, that's some funny shit right there....lol.Zac said:
posted on February 20, 2008 3:46 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
I think Geauxtigers0107 said it best. Because of their win against MI, everyone knows who Appy St is. No one will be over looking them, especially not LSU. There-in lies one of the differences between last season and next.
Another difference: Defense & Special Teams- MI was not ready. They were expecting a light work-out; instead, they got taken for the ride of their lives, and didn't survive. As if that wasn't bad enough, they were exposed the following week by a real team.
The only difference that may matter: Quality Back Up - With RP gone, Jarrett Lee will have to step up. He's highly regarded; has all the skills, but I don't think anyone, let alone Mr Lee himself, expected he'd likely be taking over.
This is the X-Factor. I say that because, while there have been many a QB come out of high school and contribute right away (See BayouBengal's list, Post 62), there have been more who've been thrown to the wolves and gotten eaten alive.
I agree; LSU should have no worries with RP gone. If they play a tight, disciplined ball control offense, and mix in just the right amount of play-action, I don't see them fairing badly next season. They might not see any crystal when it's all said and done, but they'll show Bama where their hearts are, that's for sure.
Spartacus
posted on February 20, 2008 7:29 PM — 69.228.40.103 — link — abuse? said:
I more than agree with Zac on this. I don't think that the Tigers need RP other than to back up Lee. I think that Lee should be given the job - as I don't think that RP has any leadership qualities whatsoever. I was completely amazed at the job that Matt Flynn did last year. He was not flashy, but, real dayum cool and efficient. He proved that LSU could win games without the flashy big-time passer. They could possibly be efficient with Lee also. But, they'd have to really pound that rock.
The best scenario would be for Perrilloux to remove his head from his rectum - and go out there and make it happen. Potential alone does not transklate to success in the NFL. Many a real good QB, with oodles of potential, fell flat on their faces at the next level. This kid just does not have much time left to figure some of this stuff out. He certainly needs game experience if he thinks that he is gonna continue to play. Nevertheless, LSU has way too much talent, to just fall apart because of only one player. I would imagine that they might not lose more than three games - should Perrilloux self destruct.Tommie Trojan
SumOne said:
posted on February 20, 2008 7:57 PM — 68.18.189.60 — link — abuse?
T.E.
The Caan-Bates line was great! Seriously, I laughed (and am still laughing) my head off. I still think APP gives them a better game this year than last time, Perrilloux or not. In all seriousness, you guys, if you make it to Atlanta, just don't have the guns to take down the DAWGS. That I believe, but more importantly, hope I get to see.
Jeff said:
posted on February 20, 2008 10:19 PM — 12.188.148.226 — link — abuse?
#106... Thanks for bringing up Appy St again...(ugh) That one still hurts...
#108... 4 or 5 loss "caliber" team?? And LSU is the god send of CF?? I think not. You guys are on your high horse right now & that's great. Ride it out while you can. Just don't sit with your nose too far up in the air. Somebody might just fling a rock at 'cha & knock you off of it...
We at Michigan may have had some mediocre seasons, and we know that better than ANYONE. Hell, we're probably looking at another one with our coaching change. That same mediocrity had me calling for LC's head for 5 years minimum. That being said, we are STILL the most stable program in the country. Since we're of that "caliber" that you speak of, let's use you guys, the great program they call LSU, as an example:
Just going back to 1980 (28 years). I'll save you guys the embarrassment... As much as I can...
*LSU finished out the polls 14 times...
*Previous to the MILLENIUM, they finished ranked just 8 times in 20 years. A model of consistency, wouldn't you say?? Ahem...Conversely, Michigan has finished out of the polls TWICE in that same time frame.
We don't "sell our souls" for BCS bids. We get 'em anyhow. Don't be surprised if we're back in on Jan-1 again this year....
Go BLUE!!!
TE
posted on February 21, 2008 10:40 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Jeff,
Let's be honest, here...We're two programs going in diametrically opposite directions on the landscape of collegiate football...
LSU has won three conference championships, SEVEN Western Division Co- or outright Championships played for four SEC Championships, and won two BCS National Championships in a 7 year span (with the two titles coming in the past 5 years).
All of this in less than 8 years. We had absolute DUD of a coach named Gerry DiNardo who somehow bungled his way to better than 6 wins/year, and even managed a 10 win, Divisional Co-Championship since 1995!
LSU, in other words, has ascended up the ladder in spectacular fashion, and history indicates that we aren't going anywhere. Witness football facilities that are 2nd to NONE in the SEC, the best S&C coordinator in America (just look at how much Saban threw at hime...S&C coaches don't get multi-year contracts, and they're not guaranteed, and they're not even six figures...Saban threw a three year, $300,000 guaranteed contract at Moffitt...Who said no thanks to stay at LSU...We paid him in exchange for his loyalty, by the way).
We have a coach that you guys salivated all over...Whose produced championships, multiple BCS Bowls, and most of all-TURNED YOU DOWN TO STAY HERE.
We have a football program that showed that we can win a championship with a dictator/architect who ruled with an iron hand and ruffled lots of feathers.
We have a football program that showed that we can win a championship with a family man of character and integrity and fosters camraderie not only on the team but on his staff, as well.
We have a program on the rise...and while we're busy ascending...You're busy getting rammed into the turf like a fencepost on Brokeback Mountain...
So, you stay living in the past...Bring up old stats that obviously have NO BEARING on the current landscape that is college football. Much like your coach, the same basic philosophies and arrogance that seems institutionalized in your program will continue to yield the mediocre results you've achieved during the same span LSU's become the 400 pound gorilla in CFB...
Welcome to the present day...LSU is a far better program than you. Deal with it.
TE
posted on February 21, 2008 12:15 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
That no one talks down about LSU here and doesn't get repaid with the internet equivalent of a pound of flesh...that I take out of their hide...
Seriously...Nobody...
Except WEA, Rammer, BigTide, T-Mac, Hipster, Stud, & Kevin...
Others have to run their posts by me prior to posting them, lest they feel the wrath of TE...
Or something like that...
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 21, 2008 2:12 PM — 216.10.193.22 — link — abuse?
#120: TE, Ooooooooh, I'm so scared!
Guess you better send me your email address so I can start running my posts by you. I wouldn't want to offend the almighty, TE!
Seriously, dude - pride goeth before the fall, my friend.
TE
posted on February 21, 2008 3:10 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Ramblin,
Are you not the LAST person on this site to realize that about 93.89% of this stuff is schtick?
Or are you just miffed because I didn't include you in the pantheon of non-pre submission signoff to posts, here?
C'mon, man...I can always grandfather you in if you promise to be nice...
Seriously...I'm just playin' around...
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 21, 2008 3:31 PM — 216.10.193.22 — link — abuse?
TE: good to know you're just playing around - in complete candor, it's often hard to tell.
If there's one thing I despise, it's a cyber-bully. My natural reaction to cyber-bullies (admittedly, completely illogical) is to become a cyber-bully myself and push back.
I would be pleased to be on your esteemed list of exceptions, though not necessary. I mistakenly thought you were picking a fight and stepped in to defend those who cannot or will not defend themslves. Someday, this propensity to rescue people under attack will probably get me killed.
Apologies for the misapprehension...
TE
posted on February 21, 2008 3:52 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Your pensiveness to stand pat in the face of the plethora of my preeminent pontifications is plenty okay by me...
Seriously...I just try to keep things interesting, is all...
Oh, and by the way, all...This fella BAMAPERRY actually used to post on my site...The Lair...
Seems we're attempting to dig up a picture of him-an ACTUAL picture-that someone on our crack research team found of him...
Stay tuned...It should be worth it...
(One word: MULLET)
Jeff said:
posted on February 21, 2008 6:22 PM — 12.188.148.226 — link — abuse?
TE...
Well, since we're being "honest"...
Let's review:
1) You guys have a coach that "we salivated over"??
Huh?? Look bro... I'll be the first one to say that Miles is a good coach. I might even grant "great". But to salivate over?? I think not. Obviously there were old factions from U of M past that wanted Miles. But it was basically the caveat that he's a "Michigan Man" MORE F-IN SO than his X & O abilities. That's real talk, bro!!! Bottom line is simple: He was wanted by some, but scoffed at by the majority, which is why he's not here. He never even received an offer. Don't blow on your own knob with that bull$h-- like Miles is the next coming of Bear Bryant or something... And you might wanna hold those rocks in your hand. Glass house is all I gotta say on that one. Miles isn't exactly humble, while your speaking on arrogance, bro...hence your "dictator" term...
And then we speak facilities. You guys JUST OUGHTA HAVE THE BEST. Who are we kidding?? You're the only state institution to reach in the bag. That SHOULD be the case. Duh...
Yet, our facilities are top-notch as well...EVEN BEFORE we began our $400 million dollar renovation of the most storied stadium in the land.
Now we go to our S&C... Mike Barwis. You're right. We don't overpay for results. We get market value. Barwis is nationally renown. Our previous S&C was a bum, which was also a complaint of mine over time, which lends itself to our most recent results. That part of our program is on the rise. Bank on it.
Overall, you misstated my intentions. My intentions were NOT to bash your program, as yours were to ours. I simply stated those stats...and NOT to remain in the past. I never do that. It was to simply show you (and others) that you have ups and downs. You guys are on an upswing. Great. Wow. Excellent. But lets not bash others on your way up, as you will run into these same programs on your way down. You've been there before. Don't act like you can't be again.
Ref: ND, Penn St., Alabama, USC & Oklahoma circa the millenium...and countless others.
Zac said:
posted on February 21, 2008 9:30 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
TE, I swear; sometimes I don't think you're using real words. Having spake thusly, I'll not runeth my posts by thee. Thy bantering be worth the price of admission. Ye verily, I floundereth in thy sight having not the rhetoric to matcheth thee. Therefore, bringeth it on, shouldst thow find me deserving of thy wrath, that be-ith. (Your right; this is a lot of fun.) (Oh, yeah, that Broke-Back-Mtn. thing, that get's another Larry The Cable Guy Award.)
Spartacus (AKA Tommie T), how ya been? You guys picked up a more than able back-up QB with the 2007 recruiting class. Howz he working out? (By the way, I think TE was the 1st to say LSU isn't in any trouble.)
Jeffry, howz Rich Rodriguez working out in MI Blue? Is he getting any additional booster support, given the law suit he's involved in is going back to Monongahela County? A federal judge ordered that; rightly or wrongly, he's been had. I can't see him coming out of that situation without having to pay at least 65% of his buy-out, not to mention a ton in attorney's fees.
As for Les Miles returning to MI, I have a theory about that. I call it the Bob Huggins theory. I do so, given 5 seasons ago WVU tried to buy Bob Huggins from Cinci. They thought they had the ideal package to lure him away, but for what ever reason, Huggins stayed there. Then, somehow he fell out of favor at Cinci, wound up at KS St, and put them on the map. MI snags Bielein from WVU; so, WVU tried for Huggins again. Not only did he jump at the chance, he did so for less money. Bottom line: 5 seasons ago he wasn't ready. Before this season even got underway, he was ready. Go figure.
Whether or not MI offered Miles the job at MI doesn't change the fact that not only were they interested in him, they talked to him on a number of occasions. Les Miles wasn't ready to come home. Perhaps in 5 years, when Rich Rod proves he may be in over his head, Miles will return to save MI football. Till then, who knows?
BayouBengal said:
posted on February 21, 2008 10:46 PM — 75.131.252.96 — link — abuse?
WEA...about post#125
I think I figured out Bleed's dealio.
I'll bet you TE's left nut, that Bleed gets his "sports knowledge" from watching The Worst Damn Sports Show and ESPN 8 "the ocho"...probably not a big "reader"
(don't worry TE, I'm about 51% sure about this one....lol)
So of course he doesn't come to Fanblogs to read everyone's viewpoints, or to gather info by debate!
Nope, he just waltz's on in, takes a huge deuce on the floor....and then expects everyone to step in it!
But don't worry WEA....he will check back in and find out that, we eat peices of sh*t like him for breakfast!
SumOne said:
posted on February 22, 2008 9:35 AM — 68.18.176.26 — link — abuse?
People please.
Don't take such umbrage at T.E. and the rest of the musings that come out of Tigerland. Just go get yourself a thesaurus, put it in your lap, and fire away. No need to go postal because somebody makes fun of you for putting up Johnny Depp posters in your room. I like to push their buttons myself by keeping them up at night thinking about the potential of losing to a nobody FCS / Div I-AA football team to start their season (and paying $750,000 for it). It irritates them because they know how bad the Michigan people are pulling for ASU to beat the Tigs so they can say, "See... yeah, uh see...". Get in their heads. They worry about things like this. Dudes, a loss like that would be the biggest hump on a back since Quasimoto had to ring that damn bell at Notre Dame. By the way, wouldn't it have made more since for LSU to open with the Fightin' Irish and guarantee a win for the fans on opening day? Or did Florida call dibs on that?
Enjoy. There is no bullying here. It's fun. Laugh. I look forward to the response to this. I won't get mad and take my toys and go home. I simply will remind the Tigers, who by the way have earned the right to talk more crap than the guy on Dirty Jobs, that they still will have to beat the Dawgs. That really chaps their a*s.
TE
posted on February 22, 2008 10:15 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Let me remind Georgia Fans that before you go worrying about any relative chafing going on amongst the nether regions of LSU fans prospective posteriors...
You need to win the SEC East before whining about a National Championship sleight of hand...
Oh, and we may have a quarterback whose status is up in the air...
Unfortunately, you guys don't even have wide receivers for your QB to throw to...Chappaquidick is aight, but you're thin past him...
Rammer Jammer said:
posted on February 22, 2008 12:27 PM — 199.89.170.92 — link — abuse?
TE
Lets not forget; Tiger Stadium is Bama's home away from home.
So...I wouldn't count your chickens before they hatch.
Maybe we can make another bet this year. Only this time, you have to actually hold me to it. (if you'll remember, you never assigned a name for me.)
/I love unsubstantiated smack-talk.
Big Tide said:
posted on February 22, 2008 1:40 PM — 12.208.88.211 — link — abuse?
TE, we ARE blessed with your former coach (and after he proved himself at LSU he's now stepped up to the big time), but you didn't answer the question - does a win over Tuland and LSU make us Louisana state champs? On the Flip Side I would say that a AL and Auburn sweep (like last year) would give you Alabama bragging rights. You guys have so many directional schools that it's impossible to really know who the state champ is? Just want to know before we get into the season. And finally, Rammer is right, we should have a season ticket option in Baton Rouge because we LOVE kicking that Bayou Bengal Booty down in Baton Rouge. I'm thinking about retiring over there.........
BayouBengal said:
posted on February 22, 2008 5:11 PM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
Big Tide,
I appreciate your acknowledgement about us owning Alabama last year by going 2-0 against AL & AU. Trust me, it wasn't easy!!!!!
But actually, it was our whole state that owned Alabama last season......LA football was 3-0 against AL football!
You forgot to mention that other Looziana team (UL Monroe) that also beat the Tide last season!
Yep......last year was the Tri-Fecta!
I am though, very aware of Bama's track record in Tiger Stadiuim over the past decade! One of the worst losses I have ever endured in my entire life was Nov 16th, 2002.
It was my senior year at LSU, and I was sitting in the student section mixing my bourbon and coke!
I still had a smile on my face from the "Blue Grass Miracle" from the week prior!What happened next was just brutal.....I sat there and watched Bama push our sh*t in for 4 quarters and earn the shut-out 31-0. I stayed for the entire f'in game and watched in disbelief!
By far one of the hardest LSU losses I had to choke down........ever!
So to sum things up! As of last season, LA football is 3-0 over AL football.....and I'm predicting it will be 5-1 after this season.....with the Tide & War Chickens losing to the Bayou Bengals, but don't worry about Tulane being your Monroe.....b/c Saban will most deff smoke the Wave this year!
All smack talk aside.....LSU and Bama are in the middle of CF's best rivalries! This SEC west matchup will go to the wire every year, always with huge implications on the line ......gauranteed!
See ya in Tiger Stadium Bama......I for one, can't wait!
Geaux Tigers
Big Tide said:
posted on February 22, 2008 7:49 PM — 12.208.88.211 — link — abuse?
I only made two predictions this past season and they were both wrong. I truly thought we could beat LSU and I thought the Pats would put it on the Giants. I have a feeling that the game this year in Baton Rouge should be a barn burner. You've got Saban coming back to town, the whole thing just sets up perfectly.
posted on February 22, 2008 9:19 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Big Tide: I made two predictions, too, and both of them were wrong. After the Miss State game, I predicted that Auburn would be lucky to win 6-7 games. And after LSU lost to R-Kansas, I said they could kiss those MNC dreams goodbye. Well, one of those turned out to be a good thing... ha!
I wonder if the old Baton Rouge voo-doo that Alabama used for decades on LSU will still be potent this fall. And I also wonder if Auburn's 113 year winning streak in Tuscaloosa will stay intact... :-)
Big Tide said:
posted on February 23, 2008 6:48 PM — 216.47.212.22 — link — abuse?
WEA, my daughter is 12 and keeps asking me if Bama ever beats Auburn? That hurts way down deep...... I've become the keeper of the old Aurburn mantra "Wait till next year by God!!" Regarding LSU, if we somehow get lucky against Georgia and the rest of the schedule and both teams are undefeated come Nov. 8, what do you think a ticket between the 40's will go for? I understand that some tickets for the Memphis vs. TN game tonight are going for 10K on stub hub?????
orb24 said:
posted on February 24, 2008 6:00 PM — 65.11.39.24 — link — abuse?
The coach and the university are caught between a rock and a hard place. The quarterback is obviously one of those individuals who thinks he can get away with murder. By not attending classes or participating in the necessary collegiate functions that one must attend, most athletes would not be allowed to continue their collegiate careers. The coach is obviously quite disgusted with Mister Perrilloux, but what is he supposed to do. If he throws him off the team, he is throwing away the possibility of a national championship for the next year. Keep him and the headaches will continue most likely until he graduates or goes to the pros. Anyway you look at this situation, its bad and getting worse. I pity the coach and the school.
www.orb24.com
Cowbell05 said:
posted on February 26, 2008 10:02 PM — 70.144.211.222 — link — abuse?
So Perriloux wont be at spring training. I'm talking to all LSU fans...Why are yall acting like yall aren't worried about R.P., like this isn't a big deal or something??? I mean yall ABSOLUTELY HAVE to be worried right??? I mean who else do yall have???
Jeff said:
posted on February 28, 2008 5:37 PM — 69.220.142.7 — link — abuse?
#127...
RR will be fine, no matter how it goes. There are too many factions of this program that have embraced him thus far for him to even have to break a sweat on that crap of a deal. After meeting with the most powerful alumni base at U of M (M Club) & endearing himself with them, he won't even have to say how much it is. That buyout is taken care of ALREADY...
Les wasn't "ready"?? That's laughable at best. While they courted him on a couple of occasions...and "they" being the M Club, Martin never spoke to him. He abided by the gentleman's agreement between he & LSU's president. LSU then had the chance to sweeten their deal. Even in doing THAT, he didn't sign it until LSU backed him into a corner to sign it. They gave him a deadline & when Martin didn't contact him within those parameters, he was forced to go ahead with LSU. He couldn't hold out any longer without a formal offer from us. That's the real deal, bro... And if it wasn't for Saban's fly-by-night deal at Alabama & the press that came about from that...he might have still held out for Michigan. Why?? because just like RR, a buyout of any proportion at Michigan is chump change & Les knows that just as well as anybody, having been here already. If you're wanted here, it can get done. The ONLY reason it's (buyout crap w/WVU) still going on is because RR is fighting it out. One word from the M Club & it would be a blank check on his doorstep. Football runs shit around here & don't let anybody tell you different...
Ask Beilein...
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BayouBengal said:
posted on February 16, 2008 7:58 PM — 75.131.252.96 — link — abuse?Kevin,
We keep hearing this rumor down hear in LA!
Where did you here this?
How credible is this info?