February 27, 2006
Gators, Canes set 2008, 2013 dates
The Florida Gators and Miami Hurricanes played every year from 1944 to 1987, but have played just four games since then (twice in bowls). For whatever reason, UF and the 'Canes haven't been able/willing to schedule a regular home & home series.
But with a 12 game schedule going forward, Florida & UM are slated for a home & home -- 2008 in Gainesville and 2013 in the Orange Bowl.
Miami leads the all-time series 28-25-0.
Comments:
Joe said:
posted on February 28, 2006 10:53 AM — 65.35.221.95 — link — abuse?
Well it still appears that both teams are avoiding each other so as to avoid possible losses. Kind of again shows why FSU is a cut above the other two in the state of Florida for CFB. Has FSU ever tried to duck either UF or UM?
Well, I guess 2 games is better than none but you would think with the additional 12th game that it would become an annual event. Unfortunately, both teams would rather make excuses so they can justify scheduling an extra "punching bag" each year so cane and gator fans can feel good about themselves.
With this continued excuse-making by both schools does anyone think this could effect those recruits in the state of Florida that aren't afraid of competition and challenges?
Fighting Ibis said:
posted on February 28, 2006 3:40 PM — 69.163.197.196 — link — abuse?
Notice 2008 is the year K.Wright will be gone and Tebow will be in his 2nd season. Coincidence? I think not! UF is a bunch of cowards. And at that UF wouldn't agree unless the first game was in Gainesville. OU just scheduled the Canes the same way. No program has the cojones like the "U". The only way UF wins that game is if they "gator atheletes" bring their assault rifles!
Rock the Swamp said:
posted on February 28, 2006 4:52 PM — 152.163.100.196 — link — abuse?
Joe: the reason we dont play Miami every year is because we arent that big of rivals. The reason you always played them was because they are your second biggest rivals. If Georgia was in another conference we would still play them too. GO GATORS!!!!!
Canes alum said:
posted on March 1, 2006 8:40 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
Joe does FSU know anything about tough out of conference schedules? If you look at the schools that FSU has for 2006 which one besides Florida is a major program??? Troy, Rice, or Western Michigan??? Miami historically has a tougher out of conference schedule than FSU and it has improved with the additions of Florida and Oklahoma in the future.
Miami never avoided UF, Spurrier didn't want to renew the contract for the games after we handed them losses both of the last two game series. At least it looks now like Florida might be willing to step up and continue the Miami series. The one thing that does stand out though, is why is it taking all the way until 2013 for Florida to play the second game that will be in Miami? Is it possible that UF knows they will not be able to beat the Hurricanes at home?
For all you UF and FSU fans that don't remember the true reason for playing is championships and the count is:
Miami 5
FSU 2
UF 1IT'S GREAT TO BE A MIAMI HURRICANE.
YOU WISH YOU WERE A MIAMI HURRICANE.Lemons said:
posted on March 1, 2006 5:47 PM — 67.98.193.101 — link — abuse?
"With this continued excuse-making by both schools does anyone think this could effect those recruits in the state of Florida that aren't afraid of competition and challenges?"
Sadly I don't think that enters into a recruit's mind when considering a school. These days its all about playing time, the school's offensive/defensive schemes, and what school will get them to the NFL!!
Joe said:
posted on March 1, 2006 8:55 PM — 65.35.97.56 — link — abuse?
According to the St Pete Times both athletic directors opted out of the annual affair because the schedule would be too tough for either school because of the possibility of losing an extra bye week.
At one time UM would have still wanted the game to be a yearly event. Evidently times have changed.
And Lemons while I agree that you may be right, I still believe FLA Kids like to play in front of the home folks and as long as UF and UM avoid each other I am sure FSU uses it as a recruiting tool. FSU has never ducked either UF or UM.
Hey, I will be the first to admit that FSU's schedule this year is far less daunting than normal, but that is the exception rather than the rule. FSU's OC schedule will improve in later years.
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Uh JC I think if you check the records FSU did in fact beat UM last season.
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Oh and to Canes Alum until those Trophies are issued by the NCAA rather than Sears Circuit City they remain mythical and just an opinion. When does the ALL CANES CONFERENCE START?
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on March 2, 2006 10:24 AM — 208.57.130.196 — link — abuse?
I was gonna blame it all on Steve Spurrier - but I had to look it all up 1st. Galen Hall was struggling to hang onto his job it looks like. After the last meeting with Miami (in which Florida was blown out) in 1987 - the series was discontinued. Galen Hall would post 6-6, 7-5 and 7-5 records between 1988-1990 before being replaced by Steve Spurrier. Of course, we all know that the Ol' RollerBall Coach would never want to continue a series like this. No, he prefers 66-14 blowouts over pathetic teams like SW Missouri State or Western Kentucky rather than have to play any real teams.
My hat is off to Urban Meyer as he is probably the one who has the sack to go ahead and take on this series. It shows great confidence in his program and where he wants to go to. This will also help him in his recruiting - as most great recruits want to play against the best possible competition. I am changing my opinion of Urban Meyer. This is impressive and I can't wait to watch some of these games.Tommie Trojan
JZNole said:
posted on March 2, 2006 4:25 PM — 12.177.80.3 — link — abuse?
J.C. are you serious? What was FSU's record vs Miami and Florida last year? 0-2?
Does FSU 10, UM 7 not count or something?
As for scheduling, FSU usually tries to get the toughest schedule amongst the Florida schools. With 2006 OBVIOUSLY an exception. I'm very disappointed with the non-conference schedule this year. Its very Gaytor-like.
2007 @ Colorado
2008 vs Colorado
2010 @ Oklahoma
2011 vs Oklahoma
and I think we've got a home and home with Texas A&M coming up too.Mooka said:
posted on March 2, 2006 5:17 PM — 138.163.0.44 — link — abuse?
Looking forward to this one. Can't they move it up to 2007 at least? Judging by the recruits Gators got and the rebuilding Miami is going through this should be a easy 'W' for the Gators in 2008. If I was a Miami Hurricane I wouldn't talk too much smack about this one unless a miracle happens with Miami's coaching staff and recruiting. Miracles happen all the time in college football. That's why I love it.
NorthNOLE said:
posted on March 3, 2006 6:47 AM — 24.51.169.157 — link — abuse?
Hey JC...
How bout I remind you.. FSU beat UM last year..
The comment did make me laugh though.. I could almost picture you getting all excited about slamming a good comment in there.. only to have it blow up in your face.. now thats funny
Here is a good article on the history of the UM v UF rivalry...
george said:
posted on March 3, 2006 3:49 PM — 209.12.176.182 — link — abuse?
hey Cane alum,what happen in 1986 ?can you remember the suger bowl.what conference did that team come from?can you remember what happen in 2003?who ended the home winning streak?enough said...im not a gator fan,i am an sec fan though.what happened in 1992 sugar bowl?ROLL TIDE,GO VOLS...
Aquaman said:
posted on March 7, 2006 1:00 PM — 65.11.65.174 — link — abuse?
What's the difference between a dynasty and a wannabe?
About 330 mi and a combined 8 national championships!
Miami national champs in football: '83,'87,'89,'91,'01
Florida national champs in football: 1996Miami national champs in baseball: '82,'85,'99,'01
Florida national champs in baseball: noneBy my count thats 9-1.
george said:
posted on March 13, 2006 2:31 PM — 209.12.176.182 — link — abuse?
i want to know what happens when (THE MIGHTY CANES)play other SEC schools?didnt LSU thump them in the peach bowl?what about Alabama?they thumped MIami so bad they were never the same after that.and Tennessee they went to the mighty orange bowl and put a woodshed beating on them.it sure was funny how they avoided coming to the SEC some years ago,i wander why?peace out.
Your all Haters! said:
posted on March 25, 2006 4:49 PM — 65.82.79.115 — link — abuse?
Every single one of you are haters and that is it! Do you not have your own pages for pro Free Shoes U. or Miami "We think we are better" Hurricanes? Always living in the past. Who cares about past championships; only those who aren't getting them now! You folks in Miami should really drop your superiority complex your starting to sound like ND fans! So what when UF plays UM; it is coming up and I am looking forward to it. It will be nice to be the ouright state champ. Maybe instead of hating on each other you 'Cane supporters should be celebrating your tough wins over temple, south florida, and colorado and you FSU people should be happy yall even won a game and that the rest of your team hasn't gotten lyme disease as well, and when I say Lyme disease I me f'ed up from the crack drugs bobby lets yall sell.
george said:
posted on March 27, 2006 3:56 PM — 209.12.176.182 — link — abuse?
i dont hate Miami ,they just dont play anybody.and when they play SEC teams like LSU ALABAMA TENNESSEE they get thumped.i think MIAMI has some realy good athletes,its just when they play other teams with athletes as good as they are they get beaten.
Regan said:
posted on March 28, 2006 4:56 PM — 205.188.116.133 — link — abuse?
george (#22:)
Actually, Miami has done fairly well against the vaunted SEC recently. The past 20 games against SEC foes have gone down like this:
12/30/2005 vs. Louisiana State (11-2) L, 3-40
12/31/2004 vs. Florida (7-5) W, 27-10
11/8/2003 vs. Tennessee (10-3) L, 6-10
9/6/2003 vs. Florida (8-5) W, 38-33
11/9/2002 @ Tennessee (8-5) W, 26-3
9/7/2002 @ Florida (8-5) W, 41-16
1/2/2001 vs. Florida (10-3) W, 37-20
1/1/1993 vs. Alabama (13-0) L, 13-34
1/1/1990 vs. Alabama (10-2) W, 33-25
11/19/1988 @ Louisiana State (8-4) W, 44-3
9/5/1987 vs. Florida (6-6) W, 31-4
9/6/1986 @ Florida (6-5) W, 23-15
1/1/1986 vs. Tennessee (9-1-2) L, 7-35
9/7/1985 vs. Florida (9-1-1) L, 23-35
9/1/1984 vs. Florida (9-1-1) W, 32-20
8/27/1984 vs. Auburn (9-4) W, 20-18
10/15/1983 @ Mississippi State (3-8) W, 31-7
9/3/1983 @ Florida (9-2-1) L, 3-28
10/16/1982 vs. Mississippi State (5-6) W, 31-14
9/4/1982 @ Florida (8-4) L, 14-17Miami is 13-7 against against SEC teams in the last 20 matchups, and is 5-2 against SEC teams in the last five years.
The reports of Miami's demise have been greatly exagerrated...
Regan said:
posted on March 29, 2006 6:00 PM — 64.12.116.199 — link — abuse?
Rusty Shackleford (#26:)
Of course they have dominated Miami....except from 1982-2004...
Also, only 8 of the past 20 Miami vs. SEC teams had 5 or more losses, not half. It might be worth mentioning that only two SEC teams (MSU '82 & '83) had losing records, but that might just be rubbing it in.
Facts are cool. :-)
Personally, I like the SEC - Tennessee is one of my three big teams. Historically (going back to 1926, the SEC is the only conference that Miami has an overall win percentage under .50 - the 'Canes are 52-77-1 against the SEC (all-time).
If you want to discuss the facts regarding Miami's recent history versus the SEC, great. If not, please be aware that your analysis doesn't make much sense.
Rusty Shackleford said:
posted on March 30, 2006 9:53 PM — 205.188.116.133 — link — abuse?
I'm glad auburn finally scheduled a sac-10 team, even if it is washington state. I've wanted them to beat up on one since what happened in 2004. I wished somebody would put auburn's 06 schedule on this website...
Joe said:
posted on April 1, 2006 5:59 PM — 65.35.97.56 — link — abuse?
The Sec has one thing it can be proud and that among at least 7 conference members they have outragous fan support every game.
However, that being stated good crowds while creating a wonderful atmosphere do not guarantee great football teams. Until the SEC decides to schedule at least 2 annual tough home and away OC teams every year they can't claim really much of anything in terms of greatness of their football teams or conference. Since there is no true playoff and so few OC tough opponents scheduled by "ANY" conference all this "barking" over superiority is just the blather of "loser" fans.I do have to single out one though....
"Your all Haters!"
is truly a magnificent representative gator fan, I suggest everyone read that post a few times. I do believe he most captures the "true quality" of that "typical" gator fan we all have admired so much!! LOL
Rusty Shackleford said:
posted on April 2, 2006 7:11 PM — 205.188.116.133 — link — abuse?
The sec's teams are tough enough WHEN THEY PLAY ONE ANOTHER that scheduling hard out of conference teams is stupid! If South Carolina played somebody like USC or Texas as hard as they played Florida this year, it would be a 10 point game.
Joe said:
posted on April 6, 2006 5:15 PM — 65.35.221.95 — link — abuse?
Rusty,
Obviously, you are in agreement with the KSU method scheduling... No need to play tough teams just pad those schedules with sure wins against patsies. That way everyone can pat each other on the back and claim how great the team is!! Right?
Whatever happened to stepping up to the pump and not running from stiff competition?
If you win the SEC you are going the BCS! Does it matter who you schedule OC? Even if you lose you still are in the running for a MNC game.Of course then SEC teams wouldn't be able to brag soo much about how tough they are! Just a thought
decagator said:
posted on April 7, 2006 12:07 PM — 65.5.128.20 — link — abuse?
Will someone remind uneducated FSU Joe that they played "punching bag" citadel last year?? Was that an all female team? Point is EVERY major collge team warms up with a $$$$ making "punching bag"..Look up the schedules. And in reference to Fighting Ibis schedule dispute...Who is to say that in 2013 the Canes won't have the best QB in the nation and my gators have a schelpper? You must really fear Tim Tebow if that is your concern. I love it when obnoxious cane fans say we ducked em in '87 when, in fact, your old AD(Sam Jankovitch) declined to play in the SEC when Miami was an independent team. How many titles would you have had if you'd have had to play Tennessee(beat you in the sugar in '85, Alabama(beat you in the sugar in '92), Georgia,Florida, and Auburn...Lastly, Spurrier wanted to play your precious canes but there was no room on the schedule..Now that there is an extra game, I say bring it on...I hope that this message clears the air on matters...It figures that when you get an education from FSU and Miami it's worth about as much as a toy surprise in a crackjack box...Go Gators...2006 NATIONAL CHAMPS Division I basketball...Hmmm Gators, National Champs...I like the way that sounds....
Duckman said:
posted on April 8, 2006 6:12 AM — 66.223.208.241 — link — abuse?
Joe,
Once again I have to agree with you on post number 29 and 31. looking at what little credible evidence we do have we can conclude that no conference has been dominant since 1997. As for scheduling tough competition I would like to give a shot out to Fresno State. They will play as many tough teams as they can schedule and they always play tough. I am not a Fresno State fan but I always root for teams with hart.
P.S. GO DUCKS!!!Duckman said:
posted on April 8, 2006 6:12 AM — 66.223.208.241 — link — abuse?
Joe,
Once again I have to agree with you on post number 29 and 31. looking at what little credible evidence we do have we can conclude that no conference has been dominant since 1997. As for scheduling tough competition I would like to give a shot out to Fresno State. They will play as many tough teams as they can schedule and they always play tough. I am not a Fresno State fan but I always root for teams with hart.
P.S. GO DUCKS!!!So Cal Clippers said:
posted on April 8, 2006 1:52 PM — 204.62.104.195 — link — abuse?
Rusty Shaq,
Conferences are rated top to bottom. The lack of parity within the SEC (cluster at the top, cluster at the bottom) isNT an indication of "toughness". Nor is it an indication of the Conference's relative strength overall...ya gotta look at Inter-Conference matchups for that (as small a sampling as it may be, its all we have to go by), cause as we all know, a Conference ends up .500 against Itself! Rusty, do YOU realize that the SEC had the WORST winning percentage among the 5 major conferences in 2005? (rated 5th too, as per the Consensus Ratings, facing a relative SOS... rated 4th in 2004).Joe said:
posted on April 8, 2006 11:47 PM — 65.35.97.56 — link — abuse?
Rusty,
You state : "Not many people realize how tough it is in the sec, we don't just say that to be sayin that it really is just like playing in the nfl."
Really why? should anyone realize how tough it is in the SEC when they continually play OC patsies for most of their non- SEC games.
Until the SEC shows a bit more "NADS" with its OC slate most will just consider the SEC a conference of "intense fan passion". JMO but that does not equate to necessarily dominant football teams.
The NFL? Surely you jest!!
Joe said:
posted on April 10, 2006 5:24 PM — 65.35.221.95 — link — abuse?
Yeh Rusty, of course it would be stupid!!
Gee they might get beat by one of those teams and that would make them look bad.
I thought Sports were about competition not avoidance. Oh well guess the SEC teams just don't like to play the best.
I have to admit when an SEC team beats the Louisana School for the blind 75- 0 its hard to argue that they aren't great. LOL
I guess that why SEC stands for South Eastern Cowards.
Joe said:
posted on April 11, 2006 3:20 PM — 65.35.221.95 — link — abuse?
Ah Yes decagator,
Teams do schedule weak opponents because sometimes there is difficulty filling the home schedule.
Of course that hasn't been the reason the gators can't schedule Miami every year. Gator tastes like chicken and it always will. UF ducked Miami because their fragile inflated like balloon egos couldn't take the humiliating feeling of losing to both state rivals in any given year..
I thought Gators were supposed to be tough??
Your mascot must be embarrassed by the team that chose this fine reptile as a mascot.
Worse yet! they even put his cousin's picture on their media guide!!! And you call me uneducated?
I at least know the difference between an alligator and a crocodile!! Must have a terrible Zoology dept at UF... How stupid!!GatorsRNationalChampions!!! said:
posted on April 16, 2006 1:58 PM — 71.101.38.191 — link — abuse?
By the way, EVERY team has their "gimme" games each year...not just the Gators.
FSU - Troy, Rice, Western Michigan (and let's not get into that tough ACC schedule...where's Virginia Tech??? They are missing AGAIN and they are a CONFERENCE team!!!)
UM - Florida A&M, Louisville, Houston, Florida Int'l (they have a team???) (and of course that tough ACC schedule)
And if you look at "strength of schedule" ratings from last year, this is what you find:
Miami - #11 with a 44.0 rating
UF - #19 with a 41.3 rating
FSU - #23 with a 39.1 ratingLooks like the Seminoles are the whimps in this category to me...NOT the Gators.
Oh, and just a little salt for the wound....what ever happened to the excuse from FSU that "We are joining the ACC vs. the SEC to develop our basketball team". I believe that it is the FLORIDA GATORS that are NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!! Oh, yeah!!! Let's do a count on THESE National Championships, shall we?
UF - 1
FSU - 0
UM - 0IT'S GREAT TO BE A FLORIDA GATOR!!!!....NATIONAL CHAMPS!!!
FSU0897 said:
posted on April 17, 2006 6:01 PM — 24.249.192.6 — link — abuse?
Check the ACC for the number of national champions in basketball. I am not that big of a college basketball fan, but I would venture to say the ACC is the toughest conference from top to bottom in college basketball. I'll give you guys credit where it is due because the played lights out in the tournament and deserved to win that title, but year in and year out the ACC puts the toughest teams out on the court.
Destin said:
posted on April 18, 2006 10:35 AM — 209.149.145.162 — link — abuse?
Strength of schedule is good when comparing two schools that don't play one another, but useless when one plays head-to-head as Florida did FSU in both football (34-7) and basketball (an 8 point win), and Florida did versus the ACC in BB (3-0 record).
FSU0897 said:
posted on April 18, 2006 11:52 AM — 24.249.192.6 — link — abuse?
The comment was FSU should have joined the SEC to develop their basketball team. My comment is that if you want to develop a team, you go where the competition is best from top to bottom. The ACC is the league for that in college basketball, just as I would argue that the SEC is the best for college football. If I were going to develop a college football team, I would say the SEC would be the league to do it in.
GatorsRNationalChampions!!! said:
posted on April 22, 2006 10:34 AM — 71.101.38.191 — link — abuse?
No...I said FSU wanted to join the ACC to "develop their basketball team". I never said the SEC was better than the ACC in basketball. That was the excuse at the time. Looks like THAT has worked out for them, huh? The truth was they joined the ACC so they could get easy conference titles and guaranteed big bowl bids, with no conference championship that might would get in their way. That's not the case now with Miami and VT on board and an expanded conference.
And as for being chicken about adding Miami to the schedule. Let's look at strength of schedule again. We already HAVE a tough schedule WITHOUT playing Miami year end, year out. Why doesn't Miami add Ohio State to their schedule every year? Hmmm? Why not USC? And don't throw out "well, it's a in-state game", so is USF and UCF and nobody plays them each year (oh wait, but Miami made sure to schedule Florida A&M and Florida Int'l....hmmmm)
GatorsRNationalChampions!!! said:
posted on April 22, 2006 10:54 AM — 71.101.38.191 — link — abuse?
And why was it that Miami joined the ACC versus the SEC? Hmmm? Maybe it was to "develop their basketball team" too LOL. Or was it that since they already play FSU each year, why not join a pansy conference where they would get a ton more exposure and just as easy conference titles....sound familiar?
GatorFan said:
posted on April 23, 2006 3:03 AM — 24.250.255.97 — link — abuse?
This is really funny!!! You guys are discussing SEC teams , fsU, and UM. Then let us play it simple. How did the matches go last year among those teams. Well fsU played UF and I remember they were humiliated at Gainesville [34-7] !!!! What about UM, well they played LSU, and they were also humiliated [40-3] !!!! So, the score from last your for FSU and UM against SEC teams is [74-10]. WOW. SEC is realy a poor conference and fsU and UM have an edge over them.
One more thing, let us have go over the gators schedule for next year. UF will play each of the following teams:
Tennessee, Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, and fsU. [at least six of those teams were at some time last year among the top 20 in the nation!!!]
FSU0897 said:
posted on April 23, 2006 11:05 AM — 12.227.149.133 — link — abuse?
I said that the SEC was the toughest conference in college football from top to bottom. Any team in the SEC plays a brutal schedule year in and out (well maybe exclude South Carolina as the old ball coach and company have gone nuts with scheduling D-II teams).
GatorsRNationalChampions!!! said:
posted on April 24, 2006 12:32 AM — 71.101.38.191 — link — abuse?
Bottom line....what REALLY dictates what non-conference games ANY team schedules is $$$. Teams make more money from TV and home games (and Florida sells out EVERY game no matter WHO they play at home). Unfortunately PPV is becoming more and more popular for those "not so exciting" games as well.
Joe said:
posted on May 3, 2006 2:32 PM — 65.35.218.18 — link — abuse?
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GatorsRNationalChampions!!! says:
posted on April 24, 2006 12:32 AM — linkBottom line....what REALLY dictates what non-conference games ANY team schedules is $$$. Teams make more money from TV and home games (and Florida sells out EVERY game no matter WHO they play at home). Unfortunately PPV is becoming more and more popular for those "not so exciting" games as well.
If you don't think that an annual UM vs UF game wouldn't make more money for both schools than the annual un-televised (2) "lil sisters of the poor" games every year there is no reason to carry the discussion any further on economics.
UF doesn't play UM annually for one reason. THEY ARE AFRAID THEY WILL LOSE!! When was the last time UF played a tough OC game away from home other than FSU??
That's Right! Syracuse around 1990 (THEY LOST!), and the gators have been avoiding tough OC's ever since.The real reason that UF plays the two patsies annually is so they can pump themselves up about how great it is to be a gator rather than accepting the fact that FSU and UM have accomplished far more in CFB. Getting beat by either totally destroys the gator myth of superiority.
BlueGator said:
posted on August 28, 2006 3:33 PM — 64.12.116.199 — link — abuse?
4 of UM's 5 championships (the first 4) came when they were playing sissy independent schedules comprised of Hail Mary U, and Western-central St U, and St Benadoohickie's-college-of-celibate-orphans type schools. Who couldn't beat one decent school every year, when that's all you play? UM has looked like Hail Mary U playing in the ACC; imagine how poor they'd look if they played a SEC schedule, and took a physical pounding 8 weeks out of the year?
Bowden's no fool; he knew this about the SEC. He built his program up by scheduling a couple of good teams a year, away. He knew better than to join the SEC though, hence when the SEC called, FSU turned to the comfort of the ACC. Much easier to play Maryland, GA Tech, NC, NC St, Clemson, etc., than UGA, Tenn, Auburn, LSU, Alabama, etc...
Hell...just look at the schedules this year. UF's homecoming game? LSU--the same LSU that beat UM like a red headed stepchild in last year's sugarbowl!
Go Gators!
Monosanthropos said:
posted on October 4, 2006 12:26 AM — 66.177.152.47 — link — abuse?
"UM has looked like Hail Mary U playing in the ACC; imagine how poor they'd look if they played a SEC schedule"-BlueGator
This is hilarious!!! Miami is 28-25 when playing a SEC team! When playing at the swamp, canes are 14-9. Gators fans, please don't bring up the LSU-Miami game. Don't have someone else fight for you. That's showing your true colors. In 1989, the canes whooped Alabama for the national title (33-25 mia). 11/9/02, canes whooped(at tennessee) Tennesse 26-3. 11/8/03, Tennessee barely(at tennesse) got the win against miami 10-6. Last year, miami lost to LSU. So tally up the games of the past 5 or 6 years miami has played teams from the SEC(include the gator games), miami is 7-2 against SEC teams. Miami OWNS the SEC. Canes 4 LIFE!!! Gators are one year wonders!!
CaneFan33 said:
posted on October 8, 2006 1:30 AM — 70.152.40.233 — link — abuse?
Miami/UF was a bigger rivalry than UF/FSU or UM/FSU. In fact, Miami and UF were playing as far back as the 1930s, even before FSU fielded a team. 25 of the 50 meeting have been decided by 7 points or less. Also, do you think that it is any coincidence that UF won their national championship after they stopped playing UM? I think not. For those that think Miami ducked out of this rivalry, please read the following:
In 1987, then-UF athletic director Bill Arnsparger told then-UM athletic director Sam Jankovich that the Gators were no longer interested in playing the Hurricanes. The Gators insisted there was no longer any room for the Hurricanes. Jankovich was not happy.
"We had quite a donnybrook over it,'' he recalled. "But there was no way we could talk them out of it. They were going to do it that way and that was all there was to it.''
Later, home-and-home games were scheduled for 1992-93 and 1996-97. But during the 1990 season, UF again announced it would not be playing Miami. And with an annual SEC game against Georgia each year in Jacksonville and the annual home-and-home series with Florida State, Florida could not keep Miami on the schedule.
Before the series was canceled, UM had won seven of the previous 10 games. In the late 1980s, Miami was on a run of winning the national championship three times in seven years. Florida was on probation.
For that reason, many UM followers today still don't buy the reasoning.
"That sounds good on paper,'' Bailey said. "But look at (Florida State coach) Bobby Bowden, who supposedly neither team likes. He's got conference responsibilities, too. He plays Florida every single year and Miami every single year. I don't think you could talk him out of playing both teams, no matter what conference he's in.
monosanthropos said:
posted on October 10, 2006 12:07 AM — 66.177.152.47 — link — abuse?
"4 of UM's 5 championships (the first 4) came when they were playing sissy independent schedules comprised of Hail Mary U, and Western-central St U, and St Benadoohickie's-college-of-celibate-orphans type schools. Who couldn't beat one decent school every year, when that's all you play? UM has looked like Hail Mary U playing in the ACC; imagine how poor they'd look if they played a SEC schedule, and took a physical pounding 8 weeks out of the year?"-BlueGator
Whom did miami played for in their five national titles? 1.)Nebraska-83, 91, & 01
2.) Alabama-89
3.)Oklahoma-87
Whom did the gators played in 96 for their national title? FSU!! How pathetic! In 1995, the gators played Nebraska for the national title, and the gators learned something from playing against nebraska--never play against a non-conference team unless it's FSU or Miami. The gators got owned with a score of 62-24 Nebraska. Playing in the SEC isn't what SEC fans claim it to be. GO GATORS!!!LOL
Canes #1!!!
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Regan said:
posted on February 27, 2006 11:10 PM — 205.188.116.133 — link — abuse?Good. I had heard that the '08 matchup was part of a previous deal that was made with the past home-and-home series and it would have been at a neutral site at Orlando or Jacksonville. I can't remember where I read it, however...
Another pair of UM-UF games is great, though. I was greatly impressed by how well the Ohio State-Texas match worked out as a model for great non-conference matchups. I for one like big non-conference games and not scheduling a batch of cupcakes, and am glad to see the 'Canes taking on a quality SEC team. The Rivalry with Florida is some sweet icing on the cake.
Admittedly though, if Miami had lost the past 4 meetings, though, I would probably feel differently....