October 1, 2006
Canes fans fly 'Fire Coker' banners over game
The Fire Coker crowd took to the skies in force this weekend to call for the ousting of the Hurricanes head coach, hiring three planes to pull anti-Coker banners over the Orange Bowl during the Houston - Miami game.
One of the messages will read, "UM players and fans deserve better. Fire Coker now." The other two planes will carry banners demanding the dismissal of Coker and UM Athletic Director Paul Dee.
"The consensus is that Coker is soft and not really capable of turning things around," said Randy Banner, who holds a master's degree from UM and is behind the online campaign that raised $1,400 for today's aerial display.
The Palm Beach Post notes that Coker isn't the first UM coach to be the target of an air raid: Canes boosters flew a banner blasting former Miami coach Butch Davis in 1997 ("From national champs to national chumps Thanks Butch.")
At what point do the rabble-rousing fans do more harm than good? How far do you have to take the message before it starts to hurt the team? Don't get me wrong - fans have ever right to sound-off or boo, or whatever, but... where do you draw the line?
Comments:
The Mayor said:
posted on October 1, 2006 8:28 PM — 24.23.202.200 — link — abuse?
This is totally bush league in my opinion. Did anyone see it on TV or hear any comments (I had it on mute, had non-fan friends over for cocktails)?
Imagine being a Miami player and seeing that garbage. Not to mention what it does for your recruiting.
NFL, sure, NCAA...no way. Total loser move.
FSU_Student said:
posted on October 1, 2006 9:25 PM — 76.3.6.22 — link — abuse?
I think Coker is a good COACH but seems weak in recruiting. Kyle Wright seems to be crap (sorry Miami, just how I see it) He is just not Miami material. I miss seeing a great Miami and knowing our win over them this year means next to nothing (except for slight revenge for 6 straight). It did seem they woke up at the end of the houston game but 14-13 win was like another loss for them causing them to lose still more points in the polling. I still feel confident we will see some good things from Miami this year though. We will see but I doubt they stay unranked throughout the season. I think coker can even turn the program around yet but he may be bitter damaged goods with this sort of behavior and a contract buyout is quite a chunk of change for this program to lose. If it means repeated returns to BCS bowls, Conference and National Championships it is worth it but if not... Miami hasn't even been down as long as FSU, we still had hope at this point that the program would recover. Now people are resigned to several loss seasons until the big man finally decides to retire. I think he doesn't see it that way hoping for another NC to retire on but I doubt that will happen. I think he thinks Jeff will be poised to takeover the reigns but that is NOT going to HAPPEN.
Tampa Hurricane said:
posted on October 2, 2006 9:03 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
Along with the three planes that were calling for Coker to be fired, there was also one plane that was in support of him. I was able to attend the game and couldn't believe the way the Orange Bowl crowd was acting. The one thing that I will say is that the people booing the Hurricanes as they went in during half-time were from one particular section of the crowd, the area where you get the non-students and non-alumni seating.
People that have affiliations to the University believe that there are three different feelings when it comes to the University of Miami:
1. People that hate the program due to its success during the 80s and 90s. These are the fans of other programs that are jealous that Miami was able to win 5 national championships in 25 years.
2. People that are like the UM "groupies." These are people that consider themselves fans of the program, but have no ties to the University of Miami. These are usually the people that were either too poor or too stupid to be able to attend the University of Miami.
3. The only true Hurricane fans - - the students and alumni!
By these definitions, you can't listen to than announcers at ESPN2 who I have been told announced the Hurricane fans were booing the players as they left the field for half-time. While some University of Miami alumni did hire planes to fly pre-game, it wasn't the Hurricane fans that were booing; it was the "groupies". During the game and half-time the student and alumni sections were still cheering the Canes on.
I know this thinking by Hurricanes goes against what most other programs believe where they will allow anyone that buys a jersey to believe they are a fan of the program; however, the University of Miami is a small elite private school that has this class system belief.
sean said:
posted on October 2, 2006 11:25 AM — 209.82.168.215 — link — abuse?
I was neither too poor, nor too stupid to attend Miami, but I chose not to attend. (I'll match test scores with the Tampa Hurricane Jackass anytime) I grew up a Cane and never changed, even during the probation years when we got beat by East Carolina. What an asinine statement for him to make.
We So Fl natives consider people from Tampa to not be true hurricanes but whatever...
Flying the banners during the game was truly crass, tacky and terrible for the morale of the players and team.
Yeah, I've been saying Coker's gotta go for over two years, but that was not the right way to do it. It's obvious, they're going to keep him until the end of the year and we have huge games coming up against GT and VT. We don't need anything else dragging our guys down even more right now. We could pull off the upsets against these teams and wind up pretty good.
Come on people, show some classTampa Hurricane said:
posted on October 2, 2006 11:41 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
sean don't get upset just because you are a groupie for the program. Not everyone is good enough to go to the U. Just because my id is Tampa Hurricane doesn't mean that I am from Tampa, I moved to Tampa after receiving my Bachelor and Masters degrees from the University of Miami due to the fact that English is no longer spoken in Miami. You don't hate on the true Hurricane fans just because you are a groupie.
Tomcat said:
posted on October 2, 2006 12:50 PM — 70.244.250.127 — link — abuse?
Congradulations on your come from behind upset victory over the Mighty Houston Cougars.Wow I'm impressed 14-13 over a superior program.Ga Tech and V-Tech are going to be great games.BC Eagles
looks like another good one for yall.Good Luck with the rest of your shedule this season.Tampa Hurricane said:
posted on October 2, 2006 1:00 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
Did I hurt Sean the groupie's feelings? If you were a Hurricane fan, I might care, but with you being a lowly groupie, we all know there are thousands others to take your place. Sorry to point out the facts that around the U, you are thought of as a groupie. Try not to cry to much about it.
58 Straight said:
posted on October 2, 2006 1:56 PM — 209.168.248.130 — link — abuse?
I'm with Sean: 'Tampa Hurricane' is a total jerk. I attended the University of Miami and met my share of 'Tampa Hurricanes'. As an alumnus still living in Miami, I welcome 'Tampa Hurricane' to continue living in Tampa.
As for the class system: ridiculous. The "groupie" section is the only one that is always full. The student section was less than half way full, the alumni section was maybe 75%. Those who consistently support the 'Canes are the 'only true fans'.
I was sitting in the alumni section and heard boos there, just like everywhere else in the stadium (deservedly). Another substandard offensive showing. Luckily Houston made too many mistakes too (especially that late fumble). Otherwise we'd be discussing our third loss of the season.
gchaneyjr said:
posted on October 2, 2006 4:18 PM — 70.210.40.79 — link — abuse?
Tampa, That was a ridiculous statement you made about groupies. You sound more like a groupie than us die hard cane fans. Maybe your one of the fans who needs the elite class people around him at all times. Filet mignon before the game in your RV. I have been a cane fan since Miami upset Nebraska for the title in 85. I lived in Pennsylvania at the time. I didnt attend the UM and didnt need to to become a true die hard cane fan. I have bought season tickets thru thick and thin. I wont deny I want cocker fired, but I will let time do the work. What is the most enjoyable thing about being a cane fan???
1. A dynasty program with elite talant and coaching.
2. That when you are in the orange bowl for a sellout game and you have people from all walks of life, welfare to rich, In that stadium NOBODY IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER IF THEY ARE A TRUE CANE FAN WHICH YOU ARE NOT!!!!!!!!Gary
jim said:
posted on October 2, 2006 6:30 PM — 155.229.229.162 — link — abuse?
Miami will do fine against Ga. Tech and the chokies, it is not just Miami that is terrible but the entire ACC is terrible. I am glad however that the chokies exposed themselves early this year before they got in the top 10, that way we don't have to listen to them gobble about how good they are.
VOLPIMP said:
posted on October 2, 2006 7:05 PM — 208.0.27.10 — link — abuse?
Never thought I would agree with Tampa but in a weird way I do on this one. The Canes just aren't really good right now for whatever reason. You have fans, alumni, and bandwagon riders. I myself didn't graduate from UT, so I'm considered a fan. I guarantee you this though, versus Marshall, when it was pouring 6 inches of rain down on us all, my wife (who is a UT grad) stayed right where we were and saw countless alumni and other folks walk out on the Vols. That doesn't make them lesser fans. Last season I heard boos galore through Neyland, the same Fire Fulmer campaign kicked in that you guys are having. Bottom line, the true, blue fans are going to back their squad 100% no matter what. The bandwagon will move when the next hot team comes along, the alumni sometimes cry and whine more because they think they should have some type of control of the situation. I don't direct that at you Tampa, but that's the case most of the time. Maybe Coker does need to go, if nothing else to clear the air and start over, get rid of the bad blood. But the fans don't need to turn on their guys, period. You want to screw yourselves recruiting wise boo your squad, what recruit on the sideline or in the stands wants to hear that and know it might be him on that field hearing it. The booing crowd is like Tampa said, fair weathered fans, but there are just as many alumni in that category as well. The similarities of Miami this year and UT last year are crazy. Throw in a QB controversy and it would be a mirror image. Guys don't let disappointment turn to ruining the whole experience, it's a game...it's larger than that I know but it's to be enjoyed, win or lose. Find a positive in it somewhere, I dreaded this season after last year, never have I done that before, and whether anyone agrees or not, my guys are playing surprisingly good football, especially at QB, where I thought we wouldn't have a chance. Give Coker a little break, you think he's not racking his brain to try and fix this situation? Come on, and for fans who boo their own team, move to Europe and follow soccer, you'll fit in better their. A fan is a fan, sure alumni are special and have strong ties to the school, but that doesn't always make them better fans.
C-DOGG said:
posted on October 2, 2006 7:10 PM — 24.131.224.89 — link — abuse?
Tampa,
I have been a Canes fan for 21 years. I was born and raised in Ohio and am an OHIO STATE ALUMMNI. I think that your "groupie" statement is silly. To top it all off, I have something that you wish you had, but will never own. The actual game helmet sticker decals from the 01' National Title team. How did I get it? I was a supervisor at the Riddel plant in Elyria, Ohio during the end of the 01' title year. The decals were being thrown away (as they all are) and I was able to get them. They look real good on my wax paper & will never be sold! (If I were actually poor as you say, I might change my mind). Of course this information has nothing to do with the subject, but just wanted to let you know.Regan said:
posted on October 2, 2006 8:23 PM — 152.163.100.196 — link — abuse?
No matter what, this is really sad. It's easy to be a fan - it's just a hobby.
College Football coaches put more time and effort investing their life into all aspects of the game most of us just read about.
While the huge paychecks compensate them more than adequately, I would feel terrible if I put as much effort in as a player or coach and saw a banner like that paid for by people that put no work in whatsoever for the team.
Regardless of what side you're on, this really sucks.
BTW, on the "True 'Cane fan" topic, I fully acknowledge the fact I am not a "true" fan - I religiously pull for 3 teams and only started backing the 'Canes when I almost went there in '95. Only money kept me from going, but I still pull for 'em regardless of whether "true" 'Canes call me a fair-weather-fan or not.
Hopefully things will be much better for everyone this time next year; that's all I can say right now because I refuse to bash any aspect of a team I care about while the season is in play. Criticism is one thing - personally bashing the coach, players, staff, or school is quite another...
IMHO, of course...
OU Fan said:
posted on October 2, 2006 8:52 PM — 69.29.102.143 — link — abuse?
Are all Miami fans really like this? No disrespect to the Miami fans that have class and are not, but man flying a banner over the game is f%cking sick. I can't believe that there are Miami fans that are really like this. Reading posts like this just makes me hate Miami even more. I am sorry to the Miami fans who are not like this, but give thanks to the horrible U fans that are. Thats a shame and a disgrace, and I can't wait until the Sooners put the woopin on the Canes in the future. Who knows, all of those horrible Miami fans might then want to fire the next coach. Who knows. U fans, hate me all you want, because I don't give a d@mn! Go Sooners! Beat Texas! Whoooooooooooooooo!
JT said:
posted on October 2, 2006 11:31 PM — 71.213.226.54 — link — abuse?
"C-DOGG says:
posted on October 1, 2006 08:13 PM — IP: 24.131.224.89 — linkRegardless of the banners that flew over the stadium, only an 8-4 (or worse) record should get him fired."
An 8-4 record could mean an ACC championship and a BCS bid. (See FSU, 2005)
58 Straight said:
posted on October 3, 2006 8:44 AM — 209.168.248.130 — link — abuse?
For the record, no planes flew over the stadium DURING the game. The Herald said the planes were there between 4-5 PM (6PM gametime). I was at the game and saw no planes. Regardless, it was in poor taste.
To JT and C-DOGG, I agree that an ACC championship would likely save Coker's job, but 8-4 probably won't get us there as our remaining games are mainly conference ones (VT, GT, UNC, BC, Duke, MD, & UVA). We will likely have to win out, a task that has eluded us the last two years (see GT in '05 and VT in '04).
OU Fan, I think we've seen what your guys can do: Oregon (L), Texas Tech (L), Texas (L), UCLA (L), TCU (L). It's too bad we didn't get to play you in the 2000 National Championship game.
sean said:
posted on October 3, 2006 10:49 AM — 209.82.168.215 — link — abuse?
To OU Fan,
No all Canes fans are not like this. Flying the banner and booing the kids is classless. By the way, the players stomping on the Louisville emblem before the game was also classless. They ended up getting stomped where it really mattered.
Some of us have been forever Canes fans, through the good, and here for the last couple of years, the bad and the ugly.
Something will change, Miami will be back. I hope like all getout we can beat GT & VT, but it's gonna be tough. Too much game film has exposed our glaring weaknesses, first of which is we can't function against a blitz.
But for a little trash-talking, I'm pretty sure Miami has owned the Big Twelve, specifically, OU and Nebraska.
Cheers to all
C-DOGG said:
posted on October 3, 2006 10:54 AM — 24.131.224.89 — link — abuse?
58 Straight,
Thanks for setting the OU fan straight. The only reason that Oklahoma has a national title recently is because the new BCS system was not in place. Miami beat Florida State head to head that year. Just ask the Florida Gators how good we were in the 2000 Sugar Bowl. The Ohio State Game should have had the Canes going for a 3-peat.
OU Fan said:
posted on October 3, 2006 2:01 PM — 69.29.102.143 — link — abuse?
C-Dogg, could of, would of, should,of, blah, blah, blah. OU won that year in 2000 not because that they didn't play Miami, but because they were the best team in the nation that year, and lets not drag this out into something it isn't. People like you who are Miami fans are just too arrogant for your own good in my opinion. Its just really sad to me how you fans are. I feel sorry for you and to the next coach who coaches at Miami. Oh yeah, 58 straight, you are 100% correct dude, Oklahoma did lose to TCU in Norman, they lost to Texas who by the way won the national championship, and they also lost to UCLA, Texas Tech, and Oregon. But hey, the Sooners won the Holiday Bowl last season and what did Miami do? They got stomped 40-3 by LSU in their bowl game. Nice win over Houston. Now hate me and talk all you want because I don't give a d@mn and I am through with this arguement. Go Tulsa! Go Sooners! Beat Texas!
58 Straight said:
posted on October 3, 2006 3:04 PM — 209.168.248.130 — link — abuse?
OU Fan:
Congr@ts on the Holid@y Bowl victory! Much better showing th@n the ye@r before @g@inst USC. But don't worry, I don't h@te you.C-DOGG said:
posted on October 3, 2006 8:22 PM — 24.131.224.89 — link — abuse?
OU Fan,
Do me a favor and recover an ONSIDE KICK (go ducks). You're a joke and so is your team. By the way, your rambling to Canes fans is the ultimate sign of RESPECT. Let's face it...your not invading Temple, Michigan State, or Navy blogs ripping their fans. So thank you for RESPECTING the canes. My canes may suck this year, but at least our QB did not get kicked off the team for playing video games at home when he should have been selling a Ford Focus to some customers. GO SAM HOUSTON STATE!
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 3, 2006 8:58 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
Come on! Can't we all just get along? Where's the love for our fellow fans? I'm just agast at some of the attitudes on this blog. I can't understand why we just can't have harmony and peace? Wouldn't that be alot more fun? Can't we all just agree that every team is special and should be nurtured with better material that will help each teams self esteem and help them to reach their collective full potentials? And, then maybe someday, we could have all teams sharing in one great big national championship! Doesn't that sound great!
Let's all hold hands and just sing after me, "We are the World. Give peace a chance. Come on people now - smile on your brother". Oh heck, Jack, just pour me another one...just like the other one...it's five o'clock somewhere!Tommie T
T-Mac said:
posted on October 3, 2006 9:25 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
To Kevin Donahue.I'm not sure exactly what the fanblog policy is on constant idiots posting stupid crap,but I wish you would look into it.This Tommie Trojan guy is a real moron!HEY TOMMIE,IF YOU DON'T LIKE FANBLOGS GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!NOBODY HERE WILL LOSE ANY SLEEP TRICK!!!T-Mac
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 3, 2006 10:01 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
Kevin:
I couldn't agree with T-Mac more on this one. I've had trouble following his logic sometimes - but, kicking me off the blog for disagreeing with him makes great sense to me. So, fire away! I'm ready! FIGHT ON!
Tommie T
posted on October 3, 2006 10:25 PM — link — abuse?Kevin Donahue said:
I don't always agree with TT, but I kinda thought his comment was funny, in a tongue-in-cheek kinda of way. I, for one, can see Coker trying to get a "we are the world" going with the UM fans trying to make him walk the plank.
I also agree with Tampa Hurricane - to a degree. Miami is one of those teams that has a lot of bandwagon fans (the Yankees are the best example). I can empathize with UM students/alums getting tired of the bandwagoners. (Is that a word?!)
58 Straight said:
posted on October 4, 2006 11:42 AM — 209.168.248.130 — link — abuse?
I'm not a fan of front-runners or bandwagoners, but that's not exactly what Tampa Hurricane was saying. To him, only graduates of the university can be fans of its football program. I disagree wholeheartedly. Besides being unnecessarily exclusionary, it would dramatically reduce the fan support. The only time the Orange Bowl is full is when FSU or Florida come to town, and only because they bring their own fans. With a student body under 15,000 and a stadium with about 75,000 seats, we need all the help we can get.
College football fan said:
posted on October 4, 2006 3:26 PM — 208.253.77.234 — link — abuse?
Cane fans, Cane fans. You all have no idea what it is like to be a true fan of college football or to root for your team through good and bad. Every Cane fan I have ever met will tout their teams NC’s and Big East Conference Championships. But lets face it, the second your team does not match the out put of the past 10-15 years you all start to cry and beg for a new coach. You all use shameless gimmicks to get rid of your coaches, which further detracts from the game. You may not have the right coach at this moment, but who would want to take his place after all of this. The University of Miami is a joke, just like the city it is in. I’ve been to Miami home games and you all walk in half way through the 1st quarter and leave by the 4th (winning or losing). Why not stay the whole game and cheer for and support your team NO MATTER WHAT!!! All these yahoos are doing is creating an atmosphere in which the coach and team are destined to fail. But hey, please continue to do what you are currently doing, because I sure enjoy rooting against you and it has become more fun now that the Canes looks like $H!T.
On a friendly note the whole ACC is not looking that good this year. This will change though since most teams in the ACC are rebuilding after losing so many good players last year to graduation and the draft. Give the ACC 1-2 years and each team will be a force to recon with. Hell Duke maybe able to win a few.
58 Straight said:
posted on October 4, 2006 5:26 PM — 209.168.248.130 — link — abuse?
College football fan:
I notice you conveniently left out your favorite team. Or does your teams' lack of success force you to be just a fan of college football in general?
"All these yahoos are doing is creating an atmosphere in which the coach and team are destined to fail."
Really? Miami hasn't changed, Miami fans haven't changed, yet the program survives and, until recently, thrives. But hey, please continue to do what you are currently doing, because it wouldn't be quite as fun to root for the 'Canes if there weren't haters like yourself.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 6, 2006 11:50 AM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
Duckman:
Your boyz need to go out and stomp "the Peoples Republic of Berkeley" as bad as possible. It's "Big Game Time" and the Ducks have showed up pretty well in the last two games against the Okies. It's time to smack down the cubbies and climb into the Top Five. GO DUCKS!!!
Tommie T
Duckman said:
posted on October 6, 2006 8:05 PM — 24.237.79.194 — link — abuse?
The Ducks have great potential and lots of talent. I don't know if they are as good as everyone thinks though. There defence still look a little rough around the edges. If they can continue to develop both offence and defence they will be great. I don't read to much into the ASU victory because of how bad ASU looked. Let's not over hype. This weekend should be a great test for the Ducks. Unfortunately I will be at work for the 2nd half of the game. Owe well. You gotta do what you gotta do!
P.S. It's funny haw my GPA always seems to drop a little during football season despite my preseason commitment to not let that happen.
P.P.S. GO DUCKS!!!UVA_Jon said:
posted on October 8, 2006 9:12 PM — 66.158.238.145 — link — abuse?
This showed zero class by this group of UM alumni. They made a mockery of themselves and their school and should be embarrassed. This team does not "deserve" better either. They rarely fill that stadium, and the majority of their fans are an embarrassment to their institution.
College Football Fan said:
posted on October 9, 2006 2:20 PM — 208.253.77.234 — link — abuse?
58 Straight.
I'm not afraid to say whom I root for. I root for Virginia Tech (alma mater), the University of Florida (wife’s school), and anyone playing Miami. And yes I so love being a Cane hater. You all make it so easy and oh so much fun.
Miami Scum said:
posted on October 9, 2006 4:31 PM — 209.168.248.130 — link — abuse?
U_VAJ:
Perhaps you shouldn't talk considering your squad's recent numbers:
2003: 8-5 (4-4)
2004: 8-4 (5-3)
2005: 7-5 (3-5)
2006: 2-4 (1-1)If your fans cared, there'd be some unhappiness in C-ville too.
College Football Fan said:
posted on October 10, 2006 3:55 PM — 208.253.77.234 — link — abuse?
I cannot believe I am going to stick up for a Wahoo, but!!! Miami Scum, UVA has more integrity and class in their urinals than the Miami Alumni who pulled this stunt. UVA may not have the best record of late, but at least they win and loss with integrity and class. Plus, their fans will show up and root for their team no matter what. I’m sure they hate loosing, but you do not see their stadium being circled by planes that fly banners calling for the coach’s head. If Al is going to be fired because of Alumni pressure, UVA will do it with class and in away that does not detract from the football team and/or the university. It is a sham that your UM Alum do not see that this is what they are doing. But hey, that is just my opinion.
Miami Scum said:
posted on October 10, 2006 6:54 PM — 209.168.248.130 — link — abuse?
Hokies, Wahoos:
I'm not saying that flying planes over the stadium (two hours before the game) was the right thing to do. I do, however, understand the motivation.
Under coach Coker, the program has steadily declined. Despite this and to the dismay of many UM alum, the UM Athletic Department extended his contract last year. UM is now out of the top 25 for the first time since 1999, out of the national championship picture, and a longshot for the ACC championship.
Mediocrity is apparently championed at UVA, where students don't mind "filling the stadium" for a coach with a 39-30 (57%) record. Hokie fans can't relate, because their program has not been declining over the last few years.
Bottom line: it worked. Fans finally have the attention of both the administration and the media. It's just too bad it came to that.
P.S. - Regarding "filling the stadium": Blacksburg is a college town. C'Ville is a college town. Miami is not a college town. UVA is a state school with 20K students and a 60K stadium. Va Tech is a state school with 30K students and a 65K stadium. UM is a private school with a majority of its 15K students from out-of-state. The Orange Bowl seats 75K and was built for the Miami Dolphins, not a small university. There is no way you're gonna find 75K in Miami with nothing better to do than watch UM play Duke. Sorry.
Real Miami Fan said:
posted on October 10, 2006 10:56 PM — 65.9.241.183 — link — abuse?
First of all, I think Coker should have to the end of the season to prove his worth to the team. That's really all I have to say about that.
But, second, I'd like to address Tampa Hurricane's comments earlier in this discussion. I grew up in Miami, a block from campus. I've gone to nearly every home game they've played in my lifetime. And frankly, it's the UM students and alums who know nothing about what this program really means to this city (case in point: Tampa Hurricane). You may have been tied with Miami for four years, but I grew up with it. I walked the streets of Little Havana almost every Saturday during football season to the Orange Bowl. I know what it is to be a Canes fan, and it goes a lot further than a bunch of out-of-towner students and bandwagon fans. Granted, there are loads of alums who live here and are great fans. But you, in not recognizing the Hurricanes as something that the community enjoys more than the student body ever can, aren't really a good fan at all. You're some sort of poser who thinks he's the greatest Canes fan of them all because he went to the school. I have respect for any Canes fan, but I guess you don't understand what it really is to be a Canes fan.
Oh, and "College Football Fan," shut up. You have no idea. You mighta felt like you were "in the Orange Bowl" in your upper deck visitor's section seats, but you can't understand until you go down with the real fans - students and alums and local fans alike.
And finally, Miami Scum, couldn't have put it better myself about the "attendence issue."
Joe said:
posted on October 12, 2006 8:46 AM — 128.8.89.68 — link — abuse?
To almost all 1A football,
A pox on the one-back offense! Why not go back to the single wing? At least in that offense there's a modicum of deception. With the one-back offense Ray Charles knows who has the ball and where he's trying to go. This stupid offense is a good linebacker's dream. What does he have to worry about except crushing the guy with the ball? The only time this offense can make yards is when there is a substantial talent differential between the offensive and defensive lines. Otherwise, all it produces are yawns and a 2-yd. per carry average even for good backs. And do you mean to tell me that a high level 1A program can't find two backs who can be on the field at the same time alternating carrying the ball and blocking for the other so that at least some mystery is injected into the game, and so that linebackers often go on wild goose chases? Of course, you'd have to find a quarterback who could actually fake a handoff--a real rarity in today's game, but achievable. Moreover, even with two backs in the backfield you'd still have three receivers available,(not to mention flare patterns to the backs)and there isn't a quarterback alive who can scan more than three receivers in the usual 3.7 seconds allotted to throw the ball. Man for man Navy gives up about 15% in sheer athletic talent and yet rushes for app. 400 yds. a game even against good teams. If Navy used the one-back offense it would average 75 yds. rushing a game. I rest my case.
scott said:
posted on October 16, 2006 5:37 PM — 71.224.203.157 — link — abuse?
The recent behavoir by some members of the football team is disgraceful. The ACC and University should look at canceling season. This was truly an incident by both teams involving intentional acts of violence. Where is the DA on this one? Duke lacrosse gets raked by the media for an alleged event and FIU and "The U" are slapped on the wrist with some suspensions. Adding fuel was the tasteless color commentary during the broadcast by Lamar Thomas. Miami, cancel the season. fire the coach - have some guts and rebuild.
VT fan said:
posted on November 2, 2006 11:13 PM — 68.107.154.167 — link — abuse?
Question. What do you all attribute the melt down too?? VT has had a middle of the road year until we beat Clemson. That can be attributed to the "Mike Vick Curse". While he brought VT to the Ntl championship he also inspired players who are all about getting to the NFL and not giving a damn about the team or rules of society to come to town. VT is new to this problem...so it's probably not UM's problem. Where did things go wrong. Is it as simple as Urban Meyer got all the good recruits or am I missing something?
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C-DOGG said:
posted on October 1, 2006 8:13 PM — 24.131.224.89 — link — abuse?Regardless of the banners that flew over the stadium, only an 8-4 (or worse) record should get him fired.