November 14, 2005
What teams are bowl eligible?
Here's the latest update on what teams are bowl eligible through November 12, 2005:
ACC
Already eligible
Boston College (7-3), Clemson (6-4), Florida State (7-3), Georgia Tech (6-3), Miami (8-1), Virginia (6-3), Virginia Tech (8-1).
On the bubble
Maryland (5-4), North Carolina (4-5), NC State (4-5).
Bowl tie-ins: 6.
Big East
Already eligible
Louisville (7-2), Rutgers (6-4), West Virginia (8-1).
On the bubble
Cincinnati (4-5), Connecticut (4-5), Pittsburgh (5-5), South Florida (5-3).
Bowl tie-ins: 4 (includes Notre Dame).
Big 10
Already eligible
Iowa (6-4), Michigan (7-3), Minnesota (7-3), Northwestern (6-4), Ohio State (8-2), Penn State (9-1), Wisconsin (8-3).
On the bubble
Michigan State (5-5).
Bowl tie-ins: 7.
Big 12
Already eligible
Colorado (7-3), Iowa State (7-3), Missouri (6-4), Nebraska (6-4), Oklahoma (6-3), Texas (10-0), Texas Tech (8-2).
On the bubble
Kansas (5-5), Texas A&M (5-5).
Bowl tie-ins: 8.
Pac 10
Already eligible
California (6-4), Oregon (9-1), UCLA (9-1), USC (10-0).
On the bubble
Arizona State (5-5), Oregon State (5-5), Stanford (5-4).
Bowl tie-ins: 6.
SEC
Already eligible
Alabama (9-1), Auburn (8-2), Florida (7-3), Georgia (7-2), LSU (8-1), South Carolina (7-3).
On the bubble
Tennessee (4-5).
Bowl tie-ins: 8.
Independents
Already eligible
Notre Dame (7-2)
On the bubble
Navy (5-4)
Conference USA
Already eligible
Central Florida (7-3), Tulsa (6-4), UTEP (8-1).
On the bubble
Houston (5-4), Marshall (4-5), Memphis (4-5), Southern Miss (5-4), UAB (4-5).
Bowl tie-ins: 5.
MAC
Already eligible
Miami (Ohio) (6-3), Toledo (7-2), Western Michigan (7-3).
On the bubble
Akron (4-5), Bowling Green (5-4), Central Michigan (5-5), Northern Illinois (5-4), Ohio (4-5).
Bowl tie-ins: 2
Mountain West
Already eligible
BYU (6-4), New Mexico (6-4), TCU (10-1).
On the bubble
Colorado State (5-5), Utah (5-5).
Bowl tie-ins: 3.
WAC
Already eligible
Boise State (7-3), Fresno State (8-1), Louisiana Tech (6-3), Nevada (6-3).
On the bubble
None.
Bowl tie-ins: 2.
Comments:
posted on November 14, 2005 8:00 PM — link — abuse?Kevin Donahue said:
I know that's a dig, Boi, but it does make an interesting point - and that is several of the "mid-major" teams will likely be moving up to higher paying bowls. For example, TCU as MWC champ is slotted to the Las Vegas Bowl, but they probably end up a little higher up the food chain this year.
And if not for that SMU loss, who knows where the Horned Frogs could have been.
GA Boy said:
posted on November 14, 2005 9:08 PM — 66.110.197.20 — link — abuse?
Good God. BoifromTroy, could you leave it alone you PAC 10 freaks! Your conference is a joke. Yeah USC is great. That's why they pound the crap out of everybody else in the conference. Anyone of the 8 teams listed (yeah Tennessee too)for the SEC would beat any of the other 9 teams in the PAC. How many points did Arizona score on UCLA?
Regan said:
posted on November 15, 2005 2:12 AM — 64.12.116.139 — link — abuse?
boifromtroy (1):
You do realize that all that means is that the SEC is more competitive than most conferences, don't you?
In both the BCS and AP Top 25 polls, there are 6x SEC teams and only 3x Pac-10 teams. This point is irrelevant also, mind you, but I just wanted to toss one back in case ya wanted to argue. :-)
Gerald said:
posted on November 15, 2005 9:22 AM — 216.113.128.239 — link — abuse?
Boifromtroy:
The PAC - 10 won't either, even though it should be easier to get 6 out of 10 teams in than 8 out of 12. And while this is supposedly a "down year" for the SEC, and understandably so since they lost several very good coaches and players to the NFL over the past couple of years, what is the PAC - 10's excuse?
Paul Kislanko said:
posted on November 15, 2005 12:48 PM — 70.157.19.128 — link — abuse?
Regan (5):
"You do realize that all that means is that the SEC is more competitive than most conferences, don't you?"Technically, it means the opposite. The Eastern division might still get 4 bowl-eligible teams, but the "problem" is that the bottom half of the West is not "competitive."
This will be the third year in a row that the SEC hasn't had as many bowl-eligible teams as bowl commitments, so it's old news. We never had a team in the Houston bowl (8th pick) for the entire period of that contract.
ND101 said:
posted on November 15, 2005 1:05 PM — 69.95.46.149 — link — abuse?
Jeremy, there are multiple "high power" offenses this year. USC, ND, UCLA, Oregon, Penn State, and many more average over 400 yards per game in offense. There will be quite a few offenses that could pose a threat to an SEC defense.
oh the pundits love this said:
posted on November 15, 2005 1:49 PM — 130.49.174.36 — link — abuse?
Who would have guessed that it would come to this.... the cries are loud for the firing of coach Meyer. (really, it hasent even been one season) I think we all know how the Irish feel about their spring coaching decision.
I liked this post the best.
Michigan Fan said:
posted on November 15, 2005 5:40 PM — 68.75.240.133 — link — abuse?
I think Charlie Weis has done one helluva job this year. I hope that he goes to the pros for two years and does a terrible job and gets fired. Then I hope Michigan fires Lloyd Carr and picks up Charlie. NOtre Dame is too tough for us with Charlie.
joe vance said:
posted on November 15, 2005 7:09 PM — 68.52.103.108 — link — abuse?
i hear this every year its really crazy...there is no such thing as the most powerful conference...one year it might be pac10 the next it might be big 10,or sec ,or big12,it changes all the time and claming your favorite conference is week this year because all the good players went to the NFL?come on if thats true go get some recruters my team that i like they are not allways good but they win atleast 8 games every year and 8 is considered a bad year if they ever had a 5 win year that coach is gone i dont care what his name is.and the new guys are good every year stop with the excuses your good yea but nobodys good all the time and never will be...the real way to decide the best conf is you take the conferences with the most teams going to a bowl then you watch those conferences the one with the most wins in the bowls that your best conference for that year..bar none talk is talk and its cheap
Jarred said:
posted on November 15, 2005 8:04 PM — 12.178.129.61 — link — abuse?
Can you people talk about anything else. The only way to determine a conference power is for conferences to battle each other 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, etc. Any conference's best team should beat another's middle or worse teams. Also if the SEC wasn't mighty why would they have 8 tie-ins.
war eagle 2004 said:
posted on November 16, 2005 3:01 AM — 67.166.240.114 — link — abuse?
nd101 congrat,yall scored two late td to make it look like yall ran over the 7th or 8th best team in the sec, but you know im getting tired of all this my conf is better than yours just because my father says so.Wait to bowl season you will see who the best conf is even if we do play our weaker teams against top teams from another conf.
duckman said:
posted on November 16, 2005 4:46 AM — 66.223.208.241 — link — abuse?
I can’t wait for the bowl season to begin. In the end one conference will have bragging rights and all others will have pitiful excuses. Any one that says that that the top five SEC teams would beat any top five PAC-10 teams must not watch a whole lot of games outside of their favorite teams weekly mach-ups. I have watched a lot of SEC games and I must say that I see good (but not great) defenses playing O.K. offences. One thing is for sure, most PAC-10 defenses WILL handle most SEC offences and keep them from scoring an unreasonable amount of points. I am pretty sure that MOST PAC-10 teams would be capable of scoring 30 points or better during a game against an SEC team, not only because the PAC-10 has some great offences, but because the PAC-10 plays a style of offence that is not regularly played in the SEC. It is a VERRY bold or stupid statement to say the PAC-10 is a joke. I don’t know you so I will not pass judgment. I don’t see many PAC-10 vs. SEC match-ups for the bowl season (DAM IT!!!). I am open to the fact that I am wrong, but I guess we will not know for sure until the bowl games are over and the dust has settled.
It seems that SEC fans, and PAC-10 fans are doomed to a generation of rivalry, name calling, accusations, and disagreement from both sides. I think I have found 2 things that we all agree on-1) We all hate the French (HAHHAHA, just a joke, hope I did not offend anyone) and 2) We all wake up Saturday morning and say “DAM, I love collage football)!!! I hope that we can develop a love/hate relationship, especially after we thump you all in the bowl games(HAHAHAHA had to take a shot in the last line. Could not help myself). P.S.-GO DUCKS/PAC-10!!!/ P.P.S.-As much as we disagree and/or dislike each others teams just remember that it takes two teams to play.
MisterMister said:
posted on November 16, 2005 11:50 AM — 69.150.65.103 — link — abuse?
Tie-Ins to Bowl Games... does not = Great Teams. 14 straight wins against ranked teams (15 after this weekend)....does = a great team. Giving up over 500yds against the #6 team in another conference.... does not = a great defense team (even though you'll be the conderence champ). A team that for the "season" has a QB with over 3,000 passing yds, 2 running backs with over 1,000 rushing yards, 1 reciever (2 after this weekend) with over 1,000 recieving yds....= a great team. Put your pride in your back pocket and admit it, if your team mascot isn't a white horse with Ben Hur riding it, your team is second rate. Go debate with a Leprechaun.
portis said:
posted on November 16, 2005 11:59 AM — 24.140.92.2 — link — abuse?
WVU will win, however I think it will be a little closer than 41-13. Pitt hasn't shown much all year, and the Offense for the EERS is just starting to really get cranked up. I love the though of Schmitt running all over the Panthers on Turkey Day. What a great cap to Thanksgiving.
Gerald said:
posted on November 16, 2005 2:47 PM — 216.113.128.239 — link — abuse?
duckman:
Easy for you to talk smack when your team is 10 - 1. What about last year when you were 5 - 6? Or the year before? The year before? The year before? And the year before? Sure, Joey Harrington had a great senior season. But before then, what? That is the problem with PAC - 10 teams (USC excepted). You do not maintain your success. You have one great year and then talk all that noice, criticizing everyone else's conference. Meanwhile, teams from the Big 10, SEC, and ACC win 9 or 10 games EVERY YEAR.
I am not just picking on Oregon, either. UCLA? Great 10 win season this year (assuming that they either beat USC or win a bowl game). What about the last three years before that? 8 - 5, 6 - 7, 6 - 6. How good will they be next year when their Olsen, Lewis, their ONLY GOOD PLAYER ON DEFENSE, half their offensive line, and possibly Maurice Drew leaves? Arizona State? They look like world - beaters with Terrell Suggs, then have a losing season the next year. Then win 9 games dominating Purdue in the Sun Bowl, and look at them now. Oregon State? Went 11 - 1, killed ND in the Fiesta Bowl, hasn't done squat since. Ditto Washington, went 11 - 1, beat Miami, won the Rose Bowl, mediocre to awful since. Washington State? Same. Stanford? A Rose Bowl and a 9 win season both followed up by losers. Cal? 10 wins and "we were jobbed out of the Rose Bowl because of complaining politicking Brown" and this year will MAYBE win 7 games.
I am not saying that you have to be like FSU, finish in the top 5 for 15 straight years. But geesh, at least over a 6 or 7 or even 4 or 5 year period have 3 teams that average 9 wins! That is what the SEC has in LSU, Auburn, UGA, Tennessee, Florida. I know that Tennessee and Florida are both down right now, but they had long runs the likes of which NO PAC - 10 TEAM, including mighty come latetly USC, has had. Plus when some teams in the SEC are down, others step up. Arkansas had a good 3 year run that ran out of gas a couple of years ago as did South Carolina, and now Alabama is back.
Not just the SEC. The ACC you have FSU (who will still almost certainly get to 9 wins), Miami, and Virginia Tech. The Big 10? Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa, even Purdue was winning 8 or 9 games while they had Drew Brees and Kyle Orton. The Big 12 falls short, but even they have OU and Texas, and for a long time Kansas State as well. Texas Tech will win 9 or 10 games this year also. We aren't going to talk about the Big East for obvious reasons.
It is straight BUSH LEAGUE to be mediocre for so long and then start crying for respect. Especially in the case of Oregon, whose wins consist of I - AA Montana, 5- 4 Houston, 5 -4 Stanford, 5 - 5A rizona State, 2 - 8 Washington, 3 - 7 Arizona, 6 - 4 California (barely), 3 - 7 Washington State (again, barely), and mid - major Fresno (at the risk of being redundant, barely)! You have beaten TWO TEAMS that are likely to go to a bowl game, with one being 6 - 4 and the other being a mid - major! And you guys want a BCS at large bid? HA! You are bigger frauds than Notre Dame! At least Notre Dame practically beat USC! You guys got blown out 45 - 13! At home! You had two games against ranked teams! Both at home! One was a 37 - 34 come from behind win against a mid - major, and the other was a 45 - 13 home blowout! Your only game against a team that has more than 6 wins! I grant you that Cal may reach the 7 win barrier by beating Stanford, but look who call will have beaten! Sacramento State! Washington! New Mexico State! Illinois! Arizona! Washington State! Cal couldn't even beat 5 - 5 Oregon State AT HOME! Must have been all tired out from that "tough road game" against 0 - 10 New Mexico State! How does a WAC team go 0 - 10! Again, PAC - 10, if you want respect, you have to earn it. The only PAC - 10 team that has earned respect is USC. You are better than the ACC was before Miami and Virginia Tech joined, but that is all.
FSUFan24 said:
posted on November 16, 2005 3:29 PM — 172.134.161.237 — link — abuse?
All of you SEC fans talking about how you'd beat teams from the Pac-10 or any other conference for that matter, remember this...your top team (Alabama) beat Tennessee 6-3, and this was chalked up to how great Tennessee's defense is...
And then Tennessee lost to Notre Dame (not exactly an offensive juggernaut) 41-21.
UCLA throws up one stinker, and that's their season? Team for team (though maybe not as a collective whole), I'd take the top half of the Pac-10 over the top half of the SEC this year.
That said...the ACC is the best conference in college football this season. Seven are already bowl-eligible, one more (Maryland) seems pretty well assured of making it, and nine isn't out of the question (I think the two 4-5 teams still play each other, so ten won't happen). Who'd have thought the ACC would be the best college football conference? Shoot...imagine if FSU hadn't been attacked by the worst injury bug in college football this season. There's three teams in the top 6 in not only every poll, but the BCS too.
duckman said:
posted on November 18, 2005 5:22 AM — 66.223.208.241 — link — abuse?
Gerald:
I could not help but notice that you posted 4 times in one day on the 15th. I can appreciate that you are passionate about your SEC chest thumping, but dam get a girl mate! Put your pride in your pocket Bro. and take a year off and suck it in. the SEC is over rated. Don’t worry, when they are (once again) the strongest conference in the countries you will enjoy it that much more. Remember that the sweet is never as sweet without the sour. The sour makes you appreciate the sweet that much more. As I close this post I would like to give you some advice. Don’t get your feathers ruffled. Calm down and enjoy the game.
P.S. GO DUCKS!!!
JT said:
posted on November 21, 2005 1:25 AM — 63.228.165.18 — link — abuse?
Gerald, I understand your beef, but I still think Oregon got the shaft in 2001-02 when Big 12 North Runner-Up Nebraska got to play Miami. I sure would have liked to have seen Oregon upset Miami that year, and the way they handled Big 12 Champ Colorado, I definitely think it was a possibity (not likely, but possible). That Miami team was phenomenal, but they were not unbeatable. If I was an Oregon fan, I'd still be upset about the BCS system that year, and it would definitely impact the nature of my posts on this website.
JT said:
posted on November 21, 2005 1:30 AM — 63.228.165.18 — link — abuse?
As long as a team continues to get an automatic bid for winning the Sun Belt, the conference will have a bowl eligible team. My favorite year for the Sun Belt (2001) was when 5-6 North Texas went undefeated in the conference and lost all 6 non-conference games. UNT still got the automatic bid, which I assume means the conference title agreement is a loop-hole in the 6 win (and sometimes winning record) requirement for bowl eligibility.
EER14 said:
posted on November 21, 2005 10:15 AM — 129.71.238.253 — link — abuse?
ok, Portis..41-16 maybe 19 if we turn the ball over 10 times. Sorry do not see it any closer than that. Get ready South Florida, Steve Slaton
is coming December 3rd to run all over your house. USF has had a good year and will get better, but the ride will be over for you on 12/03.Gerald said:
posted on November 22, 2005 1:46 PM — 216.113.128.239 — link — abuse?
JT:
So Oregon got the shaft in 2001. Notre Dame AND undefeated West Virginia got the shaft in 1993, having to watch one - loss FSU team play for and win the national title in a game marred by questionable calls. Penn State got the shaft in 1994. Ohio State got the shaft in 1997. Miami AND Washington got the shaft in 2000. And Auburn got the shaft in 2004. IT HAPPENS!
The difference is that it is only a federal case when FSU, Miami, or a PAC - 10 team gets the shaft, or when an SEC or Big 12 team is PERCEIVED to have benefitted (i.e. Nebraska in 1994 and 2001, LSU in 2003). When FSU, Miami, or a PAC - 10 team (i.e. a team that the media likes) gets screwed, or a team that the media does not like benefits, that is when the outcry causes a change in the system. We had reform when Oregon was left out. We had reform when Miami and Washington was left out. We even had reform when USC was left out EVEN THOUGH USC STILL SHARED THE NATIONAL TITLE AND HAD THE SAME RECORD AS LSU DESPITE PLAYING AN EASIER SCHEDULE!
But was there any reform when West Virginia was left out? No. Was there any reform when Auburn was left out? No! Conversely, Auburn and their fans were excoriated merely for suggesting that they deserved the same deal that USC got! When Tommie Tuberville bought his players rings, he was BASHED IN THE MEDIA NATIONWIDE! USC got to share a national title, and they were labeled (by the media) as "the people's champ" and demands were made to "overthrow the corrupt system!" But when it happened to Auburn, who had an even better argument than did USC or Oregon (who lost by 14 points at home to the same Stanford team that later lost to Georgia Tech!), Auburn was MOCKED! Told to "respect the system!" "Oh well, you just picked the wrong year to go undefeated, sorry!" "Oh well, we can't do anything for you because there is no playoff. Not that we are going to DEMAND a playoff like we did when USC and Oregon got left out, because USC versus OU settled it all! It was the game everyone wanted to see! Who cares that OU was a complete fraud, especially Jason White, who went undrafted where Auburn's QB was a first round pick! Since the PAC - 10 team was crowned the undisputed #1, it was settled on the field! The system worked! So go take your Sugar Bowl victory over the team that we needed a bad call to beat and be happy!"
So Oregon got the shaft. At least everyone AGREES that Oregon got the shaft. No one outside the SEC will even admit that Auburn was mistreated except those are only interested in using them as a "we need a playoff" red herring, not someone who truly cares that they got the shaft!
What is really foolish is that more people think that the Oregon team who couldn't beat Stanford AT HOME and produced no significant NFL players (just backups and busts) and played the exact same style of play as Miami (but with clearly inferior players at every single position save QB) could have beaten Miami than think that an undefeated Auburn team who beat UGA, Tennessee (twice), LSU, and Virginia Tech that had rookie NFL starters at CB, RB, RB, will have future rookie NFL starters at TE, LB, DT, and OT, and a starting QB probably by the end of this season AND had a different style of play could have beaten USC. And they still believe that even after Oregon fell off the map immediately after losing Joey Harrington while Auburn after losing all that talent is still a top 10 team and will be a national contender next year.
I think that SEC fans should care as much about Oregon getting screwed in 2001 as PAC - 10 fans care about Auburn getting screwed last year. And oh yeah, that Colorado team that Oregon beat? They lost to Colorado State. They were playing their backup QB! They were worse than the Michigan team that USC beat in 2003!
war eagle 2004 said:
posted on November 22, 2005 4:07 PM — 67.166.240.114 — link — abuse?
gerald im with you a 100% i dont know if you are a auburn fan or not but either way that was a excellent statement and very true.I thought most every one was in agreement that def wins championships but i guess that doesnt count if you are a pac 10 team.Its offense right.
war eagle 2004 said:
posted on November 22, 2005 6:10 PM — 67.166.240.114 — link — abuse?
fsufan i would like to bet a million on our top five against the pac10 or any other confrence for that matter.But any way just to show you how stupid that statement is lets look at the line up.Usc vs lsu, auburn vs oregon, ucla vs geogia, cal vs alabama, and ariz st vs florida.Make it two million.They might win one.
duckman said:
posted on November 28, 2005 6:25 AM — 66.223.208.241 — link — abuse?
That’s a great idea War Eagle. We already saw LSU take on the sixth best team in the PAC-10. They barly walked out with a win, and then they almost lost to Arcansuase which is a team that USC could have (and did) beat with their second string line up. LSU is almost as overrated as ND. You lost to Tennessee. The PAC-10 may not be in the good graces of the BCS (who assumes that three teams in the SEC should be in the top 25 at all times) but we play good hard football and it will show in the bowl games. If the SEC plays anyone better than West Virginia it will also show. SEC=OVERATED!!.P.S. GO DUCKS!!
war eagle 2004 said:
posted on November 28, 2005 10:39 PM — 67.166.240.114 — link — abuse?
duck man what was the score on the usc and asu game it was 21-3 at half asu riht.So now i guess everyone should conceed the nc to usc because they beat one of the worse teams in the sec wow.Ark also lost to vandy hell they lost to every one in the sec execpt for the ms teams.Whenever a pac 10 team can beat a top sec team let me know.war eagle
duckman said:
posted on November 30, 2005 3:56 AM — 66.223.208.241 — link — abuse?
War eagle,
What was the final score in the ASU-USC game. Owe yaa 38-28. LSU-ASU game was similar at 38-31 so we will give you a break their. But LSU almost lost to Ark. !7-19 and did lose to Tenn. USC crushed Ark. 70-17 and is undefeated. How the hell did you lose to Tenn.? LolololP.S.GO DUCKS!!!(snicker-snicker)
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boifromtroy said:
posted on November 14, 2005 7:41 PM — 66.134.232.250 — link — abuse?Looks like the MIGHTY SEC won't meet it's quota!