October 1, 2006
Week Six Polls
Week Six AP, Coaches & MCS Polls - games through September 30, 2006:
Week 6 USA Today Poll
1. Ohio State (62) 5-0 1,574
2. USC 4-0 1,475
3. Auburn (1) 5-0 1,418
4. West Virginia 4-0 1,366
5. Florida 5-0 1,309
6. Michigan 5-0 1,277
7. Texas 4-1 1,178
8. Louisville 4-0 1,140
9. Georgia 5-0 1,039
10. LSU 4-1 1,038
11. Oregon 4-0 946
12. Notre Dame 4-1 851
13. Oklahoma 3-1 706
14. Tennessee 4-1 673
15. Clemson 4-1 657
16. Florida State 3-1 601
17. California 4-1 588
18. Virginia Tech 4-1 421
19. Iowa 4-1 418
20. Georgia Tech 4-1 347
21. Boise State 5-0 344
22. Nebraska 4-1 326
23. Rutgers 5-0 192
24. Texas Tech 4-1 141
25. Missouri 5-0 136
Week 6 AP Top 25
1. Ohio State (62) 5-0 1,622
2. Auburn (1) 5-0 1,498
3. USC 4-0 1,470
4. West Virginia (2) 4-0 1,395
5. Florida 5-0 1,393
6. Michigan 5-0 1,342
7. Texas 4-1 1,204
8. Louisville 4-0 1,165
9. LSU 4-1 1,157
10. Georgia 5-0 968
11. Oregon 4-0 946
12. Notre Dame 4-1 921
13. Tennessee 4-1 824
14. Oklahoma 3-1 735
15. Clemson 4-1 689
16. California 4-1 633
17. Florida State 3-1 548
18. Georgia Tech 4-1 539
19. Iowa 4-1 444
20. Boise State 5-0 353
21. Virginia Tech 4-1 339
22. Nebraska 4-1 325
23. Missouri 5-0 208
24. Rutgers 5-0 178
25. Boston College 4-1 52
Master Coaches Poll
1. Ohio State (17)
2. Southern Cal
3. Auburn
4. Michigan
5. Florida
5. West Virginia
7. Texas
8. LSU
9.Louisville
10. Oregon
11. Notre Dame
12. Georgia
13. California
14.Tennessee
15. Georgia Tech
16. Oklahoma
17. Clemson
18. Iowa
19. Florida State
20. Virginia Tech
21. Nebraska
22. Boise State
23. Missouri
24. Rutgers
25. Wisconsin
Voters - John Cooper, Terry Donahue, Vince Dooley, Pat Dye, LaVell Edwards, Hayden Fry, Don James, Frank Kush, Dick MacPherson, Bill Mallory, Don Nehlen, John Ralston, John Robinson, Bo Schembechler, RC Slocum, Gene Stallings and George Welsh
Harris Poll
1 Ohio State
2 Southern California
3 Auburn
4 Michigan
5 Florida
5 West Virginia
7 Louisville
8 Texas
9 LSU
10 Georgia
11 Oregon
12 Notre Dame
13 Tennessee
14 Oklahoma
15 Clemson
16 California
17 Florida State
18 Iowa
19 Virginia Tech
20 Georgia Tech
21 Nebraska
22 Boise State
23 Missouri
24 Rutgers
25 Boston College
Comments:
T-Mac said:
posted on October 1, 2006 10:26 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
Ohio State does appear to be head & shoulders above the rest.They did have a lot of help from Drew Tate and the INT's.At the same time though,Ohio State's defense capitalized on the mistakes.It's a double-edged sword.It's also a sign of very good defensive play.Ohio State is the #1 team in the land.No doubt.T-Mac
GA Boy said:
posted on October 1, 2006 10:58 PM — 66.110.197.20 — link — abuse?
Who says just because Ohio State started out preseason #1 they get to stay there? Here is the way I see it:
1.Michigan
2.Florida
3.Ohio State
4.SC
5.W VA
6.Auburn
7.LSU
8.Oregon
9.Tennessee
10.Texas
11.Louisville
12.GA Tech
13.California
14.Georgia
15.Clemson.
Damn, looking at my top 15, two things pop out at me. I think I like the PAC more than I thought I did and the DAWGS have 4 big time games left, TN, FLA, AU, GA TECH. 2 between the hedges, 1 at the cocktail party, 1 at the plains. GO DAWGS!!!jackjacket said:
posted on October 2, 2006 1:10 AM — 66.32.182.85 — link — abuse?
Can we just rename this the JOKERS poll instead of the Coaches Poll. How could Virginia Tech be ranked ahead of Georgia Tech? The Real TECH.
Let's see, strength of schedule. GT has played 2 teams in the top 11. VT has played 0 teams in the top 20. GT is 4 and 1, VT is 4 and 1, GT kicked VTs behind in their own stadium. Head to head is just ridicolous.
What are they basing the ratings on? Gold and White is also way more attractive than Maroon and Orange.
Anybody out there got a clue as to what these guys are smoking?
posted on October 2, 2006 8:46 AM — link — abuse?Kevin Donahue said:
Va Tech fell substantially, but you're right, GT isn't getting much love relative to the Hokies.
Tomcat said:
posted on October 2, 2006 11:45 AM — 70.244.250.127 — link — abuse?
I agree with the Yellowjacket fan.You beat somebody and they are ranked above you.These polls really dont mean much, except that the Ga Bulldogs are way overated #10 Give me a break the 9 game losing streak CU Buffs showed the world who the Ga Dogs are, and the Ole Miss Rebels reconfirmed it.The dogs will lose against the Ga Tech Yellowjackets after a couple of SEC losses.
Bring Brady Back MgoBlue said:
posted on October 2, 2006 3:35 PM — 216.46.212.252 — link — abuse?
GA boy:
I think Michigan should stay at #6 unless
#1,#2,#3,#4,or #5 lose. Only then should Michigan move up.
The Wolverine defense is what is awesome! I am still not sure about the offensive play calling,but hey! They're still winning!M GO BLUE!
Aufan322006 said:
posted on October 2, 2006 6:20 PM — 208.45.204.125 — link — abuse?
Easternfan
How can you put USC,Michigan, and WV ahead of Auburn. Only Michigan has played a top ten team(an highly overratted ND) and USC has only played one top 25 team in a weak Neb that almost lost to a pathetic K state. WV looks like a really good team right now but you can't drop a team that hasn't lost.AirinWAL said:
posted on October 3, 2006 11:34 PM — 64.136.27.228 — link — abuse?
USC is the best team just wait and see Their young talent develop and fill in holes we lost, and when they beat Notre Dame again. One other thing that came to my mind........... If Notre Dame made the BSC they wouldnt have a chance....When was the last time that sorry program won a bowl game? Holtz?
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 4, 2006 11:58 AM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
Some Bones for the SEC faithful:
After compiling some interesting facts between 1960 and 2006 - I have confirmed what the SEC have stated.
I have compared the Top Six programs from the SEC and the Top Five from the Pac-10 over that time period. I don't have to break down all of the numbers. But, the SEC comes out ahead on this score.
And, the criteria was: how well did each team play against their own conference compared to that of all of the other "Major Conferences" or OOC competition. The SEC actually had a "higher" winning percentage outside of their own conference. The Pac-10 actually had a "lower" winning percentage outside of their own conference. That means that within the SEC is a harder conference to play in than the Pac-10 is.
Even though the Pac-10 had more parity (more teams with higher winning percentages) - the SEC still won more OOC games at a higher percentage than the Pac-10 did. Over forty-five years of games - there really isn't any argument to be made as to anything really. The SOS would have eventually balanced out for everyone - especially counting all the Bowl games that were included.
And, this pattern held true for every decade. Now, I'm am quite sure that that gap is closing between 2000 and 2006. Every statistic I have looked at indicates that is a fact. But, historically speaking, the SEC has in fact been a much stronger conference than the Pac-10 has been. But, hey, let's try and look at what is really happening today.
Tommy T
GA Boy said:
posted on October 4, 2006 10:30 PM — 66.110.197.20 — link — abuse?
Tommie T
Are you sure you want to look at what is happening today? The PAC still comes up short on the head to head games:USC over Ark, AU over WSU, TN over CAL, LSU over Arizona. Is 2006 the "today" you are referring to? Now if TN jumps on GA this weekend like they did CAL, I will leave the PAC-SEC thing alone. Tennessee has looked good right? Wait until you see them Saturday. Cutcliffe used to own UGA. He better be ready for the dynamic duo at defensive ends, Moses and Grant. GO DAWGS!!ncaa fball expert said:
posted on October 5, 2006 3:05 AM — 24.11.172.197 — link — abuse?
1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Auburn
4. USC
5. LSU
6. Texas
7. Louisville
8. Florida
9. Oregon
10. Notre Dame
Notes: Sorry WVU, 3 words, strength of schedule, you'll have to semi-convince the nation against Louisville; (National Championship)Michigan vs Ohio State, #1 and #2 in the land, both undefeated! Couldnt get any better, Lets all hope for this one. Close as always, Michigan prevails this year, 24-20.Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 5, 2006 9:52 AM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
GA Boy:
I've already stated that it looks as though the SEC is gonna have a good year. They have a great start going. We'll know alot more when Bowl season rolls around. Hope the Dawgs play well. But, I was referring to what has been happening in this decade (2000-2006). The Pac-10 has been gaining ground overall. Not this year though! And, your right, the big win was Tennessee over Cal. That was about the only level game we had - and Tennessee made em' look silly. And, I'm glad. I hate Cal so I could care less. I'm glad Tennessee rolled them up. I hope every team rolls em' up. I'm definately hopin' that Oregon destroys them this weekend. I don't care for Tedford as the coach and Cal has been an embarassment for the Pac-10 whenever it comes to a "Big Game". So, we have no disagreement here.
Tommie T
SEC #1 said:
posted on October 5, 2006 10:04 AM — 209.62.210.128 — link — abuse?
I just read an article on ESPN that said Tommie Tuberville wants a playoff system because he believes it's the only way for an SEC school to get a shot at the National Championship. What Tuberville doesn't understand is that their is a way that he can become a National Champion without having a playoff system, and here's how...
According to the polls...in the US Today and Harris polls: #1 OSU, #2 USC, #3 Auburn. But in the AP poll: #1 OSU, #2 Auburn, #3 USC.
Now, using 2003 as my example, if OSU plays USC in the championship game and USC wins, then Auburn can claim themselves as National Champs because of their ranking in the AP poll. It apparently doesn't matter that the BCS is THE OFFICIAL system of the NCAA; if you think you're the champ then you can just say so and everyone will love you and say your the champion, to hell with those BCS guys.
But then again, USC did beat Arkansas this year, so they should've just handed them the trophy after the game.SEC #1 said:
posted on October 5, 2006 1:12 PM — 209.62.210.128 — link — abuse?
Gatorhippy - the 2003 MNC Champion---USC. And everyone always mentions their name as the '03 "Co-Champs". Which in my book, if you want to be a Champion, get the crystal ball.
However, I do have a correction to my previous post. I said that Auburn could declare themselves National Champs due to their AP rankings if USC were to win, BUT...being that its USC, everyone would just forget that the AP even exists and say that USC is the Champion because they won the BCS Championship game. Then they would cry like little babies and say that their not "sharing" their championship.
Tomcat said:
posted on October 5, 2006 3:16 PM — 70.248.26.87 — link — abuse?
Hey SEC#1 Not only are playoffs needed.We also need to look at these so-called conference Championship games.In most leagues like Big XII it is totally unessassary.Either do away with them altogether or every league should have to play one.The Pac-10 and Big 10 do not have to play these.Its not fair to the other conferences.
Also look at these Bye Weeks USC gets two early in the season.Whats up with that? Texas plays two of its toughest opponents early in the season without bye weeks.
The nature of college football is so competitive that We should all have the same advantages or disadvantages.Hookem-Horns
SEC #1 said:
posted on October 5, 2006 3:46 PM — 209.62.210.128 — link — abuse?
Hey Tomcat, I totally agree with you on all points made. You have LSU vs. Auburn in week 3, Texas vs. Ohio State in week 2, and several other very notable games taking place early in the season, while USC takes a bye in week 2. Then the losers of those games are penalized while USC remains ranked in the top 3 without proving anything. They need to show some marbles and schedule some top 10 opponents, because beating Nebraska isn't quite enough. However, going to the wire with Washington State does say something. And don't even get started with the PAC 10 not having a conference championship, while every other leagues' elite have to slug it out to decide which bowl they'll get. Then again, with the cupcakes they have in the PAC 10, would it even matter if they had conference championship?
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 5, 2006 4:31 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
Tomcat:
Some of these people are just so strange. What about when they get the "bye" later on and USC doesn't? What about that? Come on! You people should all want a crack at USC. Texas got their chance and actually won the game. What's everybody else so shook up about? It's not USC's fault that Nebraska has to fall out of the Top Ten in the last few years. It's not their fault that Notre Dame can't hold it up. It's not their fault that Washington, Oregon and California can't get to and stay in the Top Ten. Hey, y'all just wait yer turn. You'll get it. All y'all got to do is just keep winning your games and quit worrying about what USC is doing. Right now - all the computer models have USC as having played the toughest schedule so far. So, get off that. It seems as if there is a whole lot of other schools playing the "Big Time Cupcake Schedules".
Now, as for the conference playoffs - they are totally out of line. I don't agree with that at all. It's very unfair for some team that lost the conference race to get one more chance "to get lucky" right before BCS invites. It's pure BS!Tommie T
Mooka said:
posted on October 5, 2006 6:37 PM — 68.107.102.29 — link — abuse?
Tommie T,
Thanks for that research. I am making a stick-it note of this post # and title so I can reference to Socal if he ever starts going off on his ridiculous nonreferenced stat rants. Even though I know he will come back and say,"Homefield advantage, road pus___s, blah, blah."
Okay back to the subject...SEC #1 and Tomcat, I agree completly. Ever since I saw the Coaches poll give the #2 spot to a bye week USC team, I lost a lot of respect for that poll. I hardly even watse my time looking at it now. Especially when you note AU's 5-0 against tougher opponents than a 4-0 USC. Even though I think eventually USC will drop out of the top 5 and quite possibly top 10 this season, I would still give them at least the #3 spot, right behind the deserving AU. The AP is right this time. Michigan is making it's way up there and is the best #6 team I think the poll has ever seen. I like them at #4.
This is the Mooka Poll:
1 Ohio St
2 Auburn
3 Michigan
4 USC
5 WVU
6 Florida Gators
7 LSU
8 Louisville
9 Texas
10 Oregon
11 GeorgiaSo Cal USMC said:
posted on October 5, 2006 7:03 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
After 5 weeks of Football (revised):
1 Ohio St
2 Michigan
3 Florida
4 USC/Auburn
6 Oregon
7 Louis/NorteD/BoiSt
10 Rutgers/Geo/WestV/Wake
14 GTech/Tenn
16 Iowa
17 Cal/LSU/Texas/Washington/Oklahoma
22 Clemson/Mizzu/FSU/TCU/TTech
27 Wiscy/BC/UCLA/Nebraska
31 Purdue/Arkansas/Pitts/aTm/Houston/VTech37 Miami, W Michigan Arizona St, SoCarol, Penn St, San Jose St, Maryland, Oklahoma St, Mich St, Tulsa, Wazzu, Bama, Colorado St, BYU, Navy, AirForce, Kentucky, Utah, etc...
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 5, 2006 7:40 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
So Cal USMC:
My man, your makin' me laugh! You got Ohio State and Michigan #1 and #2. Dude! Let me fill you in on the facts.
USC has currently won 9 of the last 10 meetings between themselves and these two schools. Since 1960: USC has won 5 of 6 from Michigan and 7 of 11 from Ohio State. USC has currently won 6 of the last 7 meetings from Big Ten Schools. Between 1966 and 1986 - USC won an astounding 29 of 31 games from Big Ten competition. Since 1960: use owns the Big Ten to the tune of 45-15-1.
Now, these statistics include all USC teams from 1960 until today. There were even some bad years in there. Now, this team has won 49 of the last 51 against all comers. Could this not be the greatest period of USC's long successful tradition? If it's even close - what in the world could possibly make you think that either one of these two teams that USC owns (Ohio State and Michigan) - could possibly beat them in this day and age when neither Woody Hayes not Bo Schembechler could garner much success?
Tommie T
T-Mac said:
posted on October 5, 2006 7:53 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
So Cal,I agree with your poll for the most part.My top 7 is similar to yours with the exception of a few changes.
1-Ohio State
2-Michigan
3-Auburn
4-West Va
5-Florida
6-Oregon
7-USC
I notice you have Rutgers #10 in your poll.I was just wondering why?I'm not playing Rutgers versus the world here.I'm just curious as to why you have them ranked so high.Granted,they are doing good at this point.By seasons end they lose at least 2 games.Louisville and West Va.Also,the reason I've got USC ranked #7 in my poll is because I sincerely believe that all 6 of the other teams would beat USC if they played.Especially after the way USC played against Wash State last week.T-MacGA Boy said:
posted on October 5, 2006 8:52 PM — 66.110.197.20 — link — abuse?
Man, I can't stand it. One more work day and another big Saturday. Here you go for week 6:
1. SC vs. Wash-Washington by 10
2. GA vs. TN-DAWGS on top 21-10 (I know this one is crazy seeing the DAWGS against Ole Miss and CU, I've got a good feeling on this one)
3. FLA vs. LSU-Gators win by 2 TDs
4. UT vs. Sooners-Sooners win a close one
5. Clemson vs. Wake Forest-Clemson in a blowout.
6. Oregon vs. Cal-Another big time win for the Ducks.GO DAWGS!!
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on October 5, 2006 10:46 PM — 68.49.176.53 — link — abuse?
I've been reasonably quite lately (mostly due to being in Europe for 35 days) but So Cal the poll you posted is "atrotious".
1-Ohio ST.
2-Auburn
3-USC
4-West Virginia
5-Michigan
6-Florida
7-Loisville
8-LSU
9-Texas
10-Oregon
11-Georgia
12-Notre Dame
13-G-Tech
14-Tennessee
15-Oklahoma
16-Iowa
17-FSU
18-Clemson
19-Cal
20-Rutgers
21-Mizzou
22-Boise St.
23-Wake Forest
24-Nebraska
25-V-TechOn the cusp teams = Purdue,Washington,Arkansas,(just to name a few)
T-Mac said:
posted on October 6, 2006 2:10 AM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
Tomcat,post #22.A great one.I agree with every single thing you said my man!If all the conferences had to play Championship games the seasons would be different.You are right.The Big 10 and Pac-10 do not have to play these EXTRA games every year.If a few conferences have to play them than EVERY CONFERENCE should have to play them!IT'S ONLY FAIR.This has gone on long enough.You never hear any of this stuff from the other conference fans Tomcat.They choose to overlook it or just not talk about it.They want everybody to forget about it.Tomcat,you are also correct on bye-weeks.Just to name 2 teams from the SEC that don't get a SINGLE week off.Auburn and Alabama.How is that fair?You are correct on USC Trojans getting 2 bye-weeks.How does that work?How is that fair?We all know lifes not fair,but College FB SHOULD BE.If every conference in college FB doesn't play a championship game than no conference should play another one.IT'S ONLY FAIR!!!We need playoffs now.PEACE Tomcat T-Mac
posted on October 6, 2006 10:40 AM — link — abuse?
Sorry, Diggs. I was distracted by the Playboy Girls of the Big XII edition.
wvufan said:
posted on October 6, 2006 11:12 AM — 64.181.46.10 — link — abuse?
WVU does not get the credit they deserve. They single handedly took out the SEC's best team last year and people are saying they do not have a tough schedule this year. That is BS! Big East is stronger this year than the ACC is.
Mooka said:
posted on October 6, 2006 12:12 PM — 138.163.0.37 — link — abuse?
Man, You gotta give USC it's props. My only concern is a repeat of what happened in 03 and 04, with OU. I'm sure you all remember USC got screwed out of the big game one year be/c of what OU has accomplished a couple of years ago. Everybody knew USC was the more qualified team for the NC. They had the heart for it that year too. Next year, same thing, only with AU. AU got screwed be/c of what OU accomplished a couple years before, and we all knew AU was the more qualified team with the heart for it that year. This USC team is the mirror image of OU in 03 and 04. Are they good? Absolutely. Are they the best? Close, but no. This is not a bold statement, this is only the obvious. IF USC were to go to the NC even as an undefeated team, they would get demolished just like OU in 03 and 04. When will we learn?
WE NEED PLAYOFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Socal,
# 27 was one of the worst I've ever seen come outa you. And that's saying a lot.Tomcat said:
posted on October 6, 2006 1:35 PM — 70.248.26.87 — link — abuse?
Thanks T-Mac How bout that NC St Wolfpack.Dont they have a top 25 ranking yet.Go Washington Huskies earn your spot.
The games are played on the feild and it just depends on who shows up Saturday.The mental attitude and execution of plays.
Post #30 Ga Boy youve got to pull for your team they have the Vols at home, I like your Wash pick.
Post #31
Check this out sometimes teams with 4 or 5
losses go to BCS example FSU 05
Sometimes teams with 1 or 2 losses dont make it.
Conference Championships are really about the money and usually dont determine the champ.
For example one year Texas beat K-State and Oklahoma beat Texas then K-State beat OU
K-State were the Champs a team that UT beat during regular season.
Same thing has happened were UT beat A&M lost to OU then A&M beat OU. A&M goes to BCS a Team Texas Beat
Sometimes you have to face the same opponent twice like AU vs Tenn or UT vs CU The advantage is in the favor of the team that lost during regular season and the victors should never have to face the same team twice.
Buckeye Mark in other words you would have to beat someone twice to earn your spot.
Tommie T Same goes for yall
Perhaps all conferences should have the same number of teams 10,12,14 whatever and the same number of Bye weeks Hookem-HornsTommie Trojan said:
posted on October 6, 2006 1:43 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
GA Boy:
Yeahhhh, Washington by 10! Mark it down! Take your families milk money down to your local bookie and slap them meat and potatoes down. Hey, you could buy the farm right now! I'm gonna give you some KARAP after this one. Hope the Huskies don't get blown out too bad though.
Tommie T
So Cal USMC said:
posted on October 6, 2006 3:34 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
Tommy T,
You got a warped sense of what goes into the Rankings. You do know Im talking about the Rankings after Week 5 of The 2006! Season, right?
Is this the real Tommie Trojan? That is some loopy criteria you brought up.Now how about looking at what the teams have done THIS YEAR... the Top 5 teams and who they beat (simplisticly):
OHIO ST - Iowa 4-1, Texas 4-1, Penn St 3-2, No Ill 3-2, Cincy 2-3
MICHIGAN - Notre Dame 4-1, Wiscy 4-1, Minn 2-3, Vandy 2-3, C Mich 2-3
FLORIDA - Tenn 4-1, So Miss 3-1*, Bama 3-2, Kentucky 3-2, UCF 1-3
USC - Nebraska 4-1, Arkansas 3-1, Wazzu 3-2, Arizona 2-3
AUBURN - LSU 4-1, Wazzu 3-2, SoCarol 3-2, Buffalo 1-3, Miss St 1-4I'd be fine to place those 4 team, other than Ohio St, in One Tier; all in one "grouping" as opposed to having break it down to 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th (but it would have to be done as some point in the season).
The Rankings are NOT about which team you "think" could beat which other team! Its about what a team has DONE. And its not about scoring margin, or the amount of NFL prospects on a team, or any other B.S. - especially not comparing the past heads-up records of teams! You say I make YOU laugh ???!!! Wow.
So Cal USMC said:
posted on October 6, 2006 3:43 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
Diggs,
Justify West Virginia's spot in your Rankings.Explain the distinction you make between Georgia and three teams like Rutgers, Wake Forrest, and Boise State.
IGNORE THE SPORTS MEDIA!!! Think for yourselves people.
So Cal USMC said:
posted on October 6, 2006 3:53 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
SEC#Waaa,
USC. What other team in the country has a schedule where EVERY ONE of their 12 Opponents are BCS Teams !??? Is there even a team that you've ever HEARD OF, in Past Seasons, where every team on their schedule were from a BCS-Conference?
The height of wacked = SEC#Waaa
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 6, 2006 4:17 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
So Cal USMC:
What's wrong with your logic? Your the one always talkin' about who beat who? Well, who is who in the zoo? Why is Ohio State # 1? Who'd they beat? Who says Texas and Iowa are good? Have they beat any good teams? Has Michigan beat a good team? Is Notre Dame a good team? Have they beaten any good teams? Georgia Tech in a squeeker? I'm talking about elite Top Five material. It's all hypothetical anyway. I'm pointing out that the Big Ten is another conference that has had it totally handed to them for a long period of time by USC. There were many # 1 ranked undefeated Ohio State and Michigan teams fall by the wayside here. And, it definately will happen again if they have to play USC in a BCS Bowl game. I am not impressed with Troy Smith. Sorry! Don't think Ted Ginn all of a sudden got better than either of USC's receivers either. What's the big tadoo? They got Pittman? What do they really got? I just don't understand. Is Iowa the litmus test? Who are they? Who is Texas this year? We don't even really know. We'll know more after this weekend.
Tommie T
So Cal USMC said:
posted on October 6, 2006 4:23 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
Tomcat,
Rice, North Texas, and NON-Division 1A Sam Houston St... by my count thats a total of THREE (3) "BYE" WEEKS for Texas already.I didnt follow this entire line-of-discussion here (its about Playoffs???), but the Conf Champ Games are not Forced upon any conference... this business about "its not fair" is koo-key. Its their own "fault" if you wanna put it that way. They do it for Revenue. The PAC, just this year now that the NCAA expanded the schedules to 12 Games, went to NINE (9) Conference Games as opposed to 8 like the other rest of the Confs!!! The PAC isnt gonna "get to" pad their Records "extra" by scheduling teams like Citadel, Buffalo, Utah St, and Rice for that added 12th Game! Is that "fair"? That was also done for Revenue purposes. Should I be saying, thats not fair... How about those other Confs play NINE conference games like the PAC does (now)... the Conf Champ Game's are Meaningless anyway (at best theyre redundent, often times theyre just a Joke)?
And straighten out this turd, SEC#Waaa, for me Tomcat... He thinks the NCAA officially recognized a National Champ, the tw!t.
So Cal USMC said:
posted on October 6, 2006 4:45 PM — 204.62.68.23 — link — abuse?
TMac, Tomcat,
That added Conference Champ Game also HELPS those teams that happen to Win. In theory, hopefully, its the "two best teams" in a conference facing off... in theory, they're both gonna be quality teams, so who cares who Wins? Whichever team that does Win is gonna get that extra "credit" for that Additional Game -- thats extra credit that a Conf Champ from the PAC or BigTEN Wont Get!
So from the perspective of an INDIVIDUAL TEAM it may be less "fair" for those teams in a Conf with a Conf-Champ-game... But from the perspective of the Conferences, its concieveably less "fair" for the conferences withOUT Conf-Champ-games in terms of pumping up teams' SOS rating.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 6, 2006 5:17 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
So Cal USMC:
Sick em' boy! No, your logic on the points of the "extra" conference games are very sound. Good comebacks for all those "whiners" who want to pretend that they are the ones "getting the shaft". Your points are very logical and really well thought out on this one. But, as you know, you'll never convince the "unchosen ones".
Tommie T
T-Mac said:
posted on October 6, 2006 8:09 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
Gatorhippy,Right on brother!Post 50.Yeah,your right.He's trying to turn this into another Pac versus SEC thread and ruin it.Just like every other single one.I thought we all said we weren't going down this road anymore.T-Mac
Jarred said:
posted on October 6, 2006 8:42 PM — 12.178.138.65 — link — abuse?
There is talk of a big 12, sec, acc, only conferences with champ games, challenge. It would create quality nonconference games without having to fork out half a million for a cupcake and would create great tv games. Current rivalries would stay intact.
T-Mac said:
posted on October 6, 2006 9:55 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
So Cal,so what you are saying is that having to play that extra Conference Champ game is beneficial?In what way exactly?Have you ever heard of a thing called "injury"?Each and every week players obviously go out and risk having season-ending injuries.Yeah,so your logic makes perfect sense.Alright guys we have played 12 regular season games.Let's go play 1 more and risk injury right before Bowl Season.Yeah,that makes sense.That's idiotic.T-Mac
T-Mac said:
posted on October 6, 2006 9:59 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
No problem Diggs.I thought we were through with all that Pac versus SEC garbage.The SEC and Pac aren't the only College FB conferences in the land.As usual,you got the same people stirring the pot.Or trying too.PEACE Diggs T-Mac
T-Mac said:
posted on October 6, 2006 10:08 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
Something else that bother's me about the Conference Champ game.If certain conferences play one than all should have too.As an ex-player myself I can say that 11 regular season games is ENOUGH.12 is the way it is now.That's fine.Consider this.You got 12 regular season games,your Conference Champ Game,and then your Bowl game.That's 14 games.As a College FB player that is overload.Is the NCAA trying to catch up with the NFL who play 16 regular season games?T-Mac
pete said:
posted on October 6, 2006 11:31 PM — 70.183.226.177 — link — abuse?
See the whole problem is damn networking camara's don't allow night games! I strongely belive the LSU Auburn game would came out diff. if it was night. I was there and it was damn hot and bright. I leaving Destin in a few hours to head to Gainsville. Guess what a day game! Why? Everyone knows the Bayou Bengals love the night.
Diggs the Mountie said:
posted on October 7, 2006 5:47 PM — 68.49.176.53 — link — abuse?
You know what gripes my ass? When know nothing commentators say things like WVU continues to fall in the polls, and then they will turn around and say something like " It's good to see that Ohio ST. hasn't let up this year".... this I mind you is when Ohio State is up 21 to 7 against "Bowling Green". Give credit where credit is due..... that is all. I just had to get that off my chest guys!
T-Mac said:
posted on October 7, 2006 7:25 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
Diggs,don't let those commentators rattle your cage man.That's why they are in the booth calling games.They can't coach!Diggs,BTW after what Arkansas did to Auburn today the Mountaineer's should move up in the polls.PEACE Diggs T-Mac
Bring Brady Back MgoBlue said:
posted on October 7, 2006 11:08 PM — 216.46.213.222 — link — abuse?
I like the idea of a conference championship game only if there are two teams tied for first,and they have not faced each other earlier in the season. I do not like the idea of two teams facing each other a second time. (like Buckeye Mark said,I would also hate to play that school way down in Ohio,twice in one season)
As far as the Big Ten,Pac Ten and Big East not having conf. champ. game,they do not have as many teams so normaly you do not have the problem of two teams that have not played each other tied for first. No reason to play a conference championship game.
What I like about college football is it's not like the NFL,and if you make it more like the NFL then college football will be ruined.Rusty Shackleford said:
posted on October 8, 2006 10:05 AM — 205.188.116.133 — link — abuse?
SO CAL: Don't give up on the Auburn vs. USC matchup by the end of the season, USC is doing the same thing Auburn has done the past few weeks, we started playing like we were worn out vs. south carolina and LSU and it payed off and we got beat by arkansas. USC has looked worn vs. wash. and wash. st. Auburn now needs to win out, and 2 SEC teams have to beat arkansas(LSU and Tennessee) for auburn to go the SEC championship game. Ohio State needs to lose to Michigan, Rutgers will beat louisville, and louisville will beat West Virginia, We will beat Florida, Notre Dame or Cal will beat USC and then our national title hopes still remain.
Tomcat said:
posted on October 8, 2006 3:25 PM — 70.243.161.133 — link — abuse?
Hey Guys Another exciting week in CFB.Congradulations to the Tulane Green Wave and the Raging Cajuns from LaLaf.Arkansas Razorbacks poved who they are,and although I picked AU,It showed the country about the SEC competition.
Missouri Tigers beat a quality opponent TTech on the road .Next week they go to Kyle Feild.A&M beat Kansas and even though I picked KU I was pulling for A&M.
I figured Tenn would beat Ga on the road,and after the Cal vs Oregon the polls should be interesting.
Did anyone see the Neb vs ISU game? They were robbbed from two touchdowns.Cyclones receivers got chingalayed on two real bad calls.
Hey Tommie T and So-Cal looked like a purty close loss by the Huskies.
Happy for the Baylor Bears won the game after 3 OT's. theyve had some real close ones that have usually gone the other way.The Bears are 2-0 in conference play and 3-3 overall.
Hookem-HornsGA Boy said:
posted on October 8, 2006 7:38 PM — 66.110.197.20 — link — abuse?
Man, that was a nasty 2nd half we had against TN. My buddy, who bleeds Big Orange, was sitting next to me in Sanford Stadium. I wore him out in the 1st half and then he really wore me out in the 2nd half. Let's go DAWGS, TN can still lose another one to LSU or ARK, we can win out and go to the title game. GO DAWGS!!!
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MRC2 said:
posted on October 1, 2006 8:56 PM — 65.24.91.16 — link — abuse?NO ONE CAN BEAT THE BUCKEYES, BUT THE BUCKEYES THEMSELVES!!!