October 20, 2006
Coaches not winning replay challenges
If you take a look at the numbers, the nation's college football coaches are losing the battle of instant replay. According to statistic published in the USA Today, only one-in-six calls are overturned by coaches challenge.
So far this year, 71 calls have been challenged, with 12 being overturned, or roughly 16.9%.
Coaches from the Pacific-10 have had the best degree of success, but have used it just four times, with two changed. Big 12 coaches are 0-for-18. Others: Big East, 2-for-13; ACC, 3-for-13; Southeastern, 2-for-14; Big Ten, 3-for-9.
Personally, I'm surprised that there have only been 71 challenges this year, but you have to remember that a coach A) must have a timeout to challenge a call, and B) risks losing that timeout depending on the outcome of the review.
"Those timeouts are sacred," said Jim Tressel, coach of No. 1 Ohio State. "Plus, if you've used it once, and then there's something at the end of the game where you'd really like to use it, (you can't). ... I have a lot of confidence in people up in the booth, and they review every play as it's going on. I think it would be an unusual situation to have the replay booth not review something that we, with our human eye, could see."
Of course, there still are some bad calls being made, challenged, and not overturned, right Bob Stoops?
Comments:
Jarred said:
posted on October 20, 2006 5:10 PM — 12.178.138.65 — link — abuse?
Has anyone noticed about 90 percent of questionable/bad calls are non-reviewable? Most plays that are challenged no one can tell if it's right or wrong, therefore inconclusive. The network guys usually seem to have about as good as a look as anyone, when there is a good look. What cameras do the refs use?
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 20, 2006 10:16 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
I hate to have to inform you all again - but, the NCAA has it's own agenda. So do the individual conferences. This is big business and nothing is gonna stand in the way of making tons of money. The goal is to get some teams into the BCS championship series (biggest money is there), and then, for as many other teams from a particular conference to make as many bowls as possible. Let's take the SEC for example. They don't care how many teams lose, or if they get to play for the National Championship, as long as all those seats stay filled. That's why they'll always level the playing field somehow. If Auburn had lost to Florida - then Arkansas would have run away with the west. They don't want that. They want it to stay interesting all the way to the last drop.
The Pac-10's biggest hope this year would be to get USC into a National Championship game, with California and Oregon, possibly securing another BCS Bowl game. This is why it is gonna be terrible difficult for Oregon or Cal to beat USC. The Trojans will get the calls in these games. Or, they might help California win so that they finish up with two 11-1 teams. That might better secure to BCS invites. Why do you think Oregon got those calls against Oklahoma? There is big Pac-10 money riding on this. These things go on in all conferences. Michigan and Ohio State will get the calls from here on in. Same goes for West Virginia and Louisville. I predict an upset for Nebraska this weekend. Reason why? Oklahoma is going down without Peterson. They need a little more intrigue in that conference. Texas won't get another shot at Ohio State, so the best thing that they can do, is to get Nebraska to beat Texas. And, the rematch in the Big 12 Championship would be most excellent. Now, maybe both of these teams could garner BCS games if they both ended up 10-2. It's just a thought. Let's see if I'm wrong. Nevertheless, the Big 12 needs to rise up another marquee power soon. The likely candidate is Nebraska. So, no these people aren't really blind. They just want you to think that they are. They work for the conference that they represent. The conference is out to make money. The zebras job is to make that happen. It's not much different than what they do down at the CIA and the Pentagon.Tommie T
Husker55 said:
posted on October 23, 2006 8:32 AM — 71.29.65.13 — link — abuse?
Hello, There was a coach's challenge near the end of the Nebraska-Texas game. Texas had just tried to lob a pass into the end zone on a third down play. NU had double coverage on the reciever and the pass was incomplete. Just as Texas was lining up for a field goal try to win the game, NU Coach Callahan issued a coach's challenge.
Even though it was clear from the TV instant replays that the ball was dropped, he decided to challenge the ruling. Why? When a kicker comes on the field to try a potential game winner, the opposite team's coach try to "ice" the kicker by calling timeouts. His ploy was to burn one of his timeouts by calling a coach's challenge. It takes a little more time to do a challenge than a normal time out does. And going thru the challenge process does add a bit of extra worry in the kicker's mind. Plus the fact this was a walk-on, backup kicker that was making his very first college field goal attempt.
History will show that UT kicker kicking the 22 yard game winner with 23 seconds left in the game for a 22-20 Texas win over Nebraska. I just wanted to explain the logic behind the coach's challege that Coach Callahan used in that game.
If things hold true to form, both UT and NU will meet again in the Big 12 Championship game. This time, the odds will favor the Huskers. Go Big Red!!
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 23, 2006 9:33 AM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
Now come on! You guys can't see it? All these teams had a shot at an upset and couldn't pull it off in the last couple of minutes. Nebraska, Washington, UCLA and Alabama. Do you really think that even one call could have gone against Texas, California, Notre Dame and Tennessee? Of course not! I almost got the Nebraska game right, but the more I think about it, it makes more sense for Nebraska to upset Texas in the Big 12 Title game. This gets Nebraska an automatic invite and Texas might be likely to pick up another BCS game as well. The Big 12 is very good at creating this scenario - as we all know. It's happened a couple of times that some half-azzed team has knocked out the Top Ranked team in the Big 12 title game - only for the Top Ranked team to play for the National Championship anyway.
I've only seen two games this year where the unexpected upset was allowed to happen. One was Arkansas over Auburn and Arkansas just had to hammer them. I don't think that the refs could do anything about that. And, although I did not see the game - I have to assume that either Oregon played horribly, or Washington State had to dominate the game so thouroughly that they could not do anything about that game either. Washington State was not supposed to win that game. Did anybody notice all of the holding that Notre Dame was all of a sudden able to accomplish against UCLA's defensive line on that last drive? How about Nebraska's Nunn laying the ball on the ground at the end? All these teams cannot be so adept at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. No, we cannot allow for all of these one-loss teams to lose another game. Anybody now think that USC doesn't stand a chance against Oregon, California and Notre Dame?Tommie T
Fred said:
posted on October 23, 2006 11:12 AM — 165.176.19.2 — link — abuse?
Tommie youre facts are as bad as most of youre long winded BS, why dont you ask the UCLA coach whether his players were held, they went into a cover 2 prevent defense and rushed three, he now regrets it because their blitz package worked most of the day. ND went to a hurry up offense which they have perfected, and prevented any defensive changes. Once they went to the three man rush they were stuck with it. Stop the BS claiming their players were held.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on October 23, 2006 12:07 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
Fred:
I've already posted that Dorrell went to the "prevent defense". Why? It never works. Have you not seen 90% or all teams race down the field in that defense? Ask yourself this question: how did UCLA get to have the opportunity to play in the "Big Money Game" in South Bend, Indiana? How did this come about? Why did UCLA all of a sudden, go conservative on offense, and decide to give Quinn all day to throw during that last drive? What prompted that, when they knew (game plan in hand), that you just cannot let this guy stand back there with all dayum day to pick out a receiver? I give credit to Quinn and Smarge for getting it done. But, Dorrell played it like and idiot, or is he?
Tommie T
Zac said:
posted on October 23, 2006 7:35 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
So long as human beings are making the calls, there's no chance they're all going to be right. It doesn't really matter whether or not the ref was bribed, is part of a bigger scheme, or just blew the call.
What kills me is, given modern and ever improving technology, instant replay is made to be such rocket science. It's actually quite simple; it's never played that way. All that needs to be done is as follows: Following a play in which a call is made, the Field Judge & Umpire or the team in the booth decide whether or not it should be reviewed. OR, imagine this, if a ref has trouble with a call, he asks for help, up to and including a review. Once the decision is made to review a play, coaches challenges aside, the review team utilizes video evidence to make the call. It's that simple. The good news: The vast majority of calls made (> 80 %) turn out to be correct, not to mention, instant replay isn't infallible. In addition, it turns out
Fred said:
posted on October 24, 2006 1:58 PM — 165.176.19.2 — link — abuse?
Tommie, Dont you think UCLA blew it by trying to run when the Irish stopped their run all day long ? They should have passed in the end for the first down, what did they have to lose. They were beating a team they werent supposed to beat, if you want to win in those circumstances you have to take chances. Just like you said if you give Quinn enough chances his is going to come through.
Fred said:
posted on October 24, 2006 1:59 PM — 165.176.19.2 — link — abuse?
Tommie, Dont you think UCLA blew it by trying to run when the Irish stopped their run all day long ? They should have passed in the end for the first down, what did they have to lose. They were beating a team they werent supposed to beat, if you want to win in those circumstances you have to take chances. Just like you said if you give Quinn enough chances he is going to come through.
Tommie Trojans said:
posted on October 24, 2006 5:52 PM — 206.135.38.217 — link — abuse?
Fred:
All I'm saying is that I can't understand how these coaches get so retarded when the games are on the line. Your right! What did UCLA have to lose? Nothing! They're beating Notre Dame with the backup QB. Go for it! Can these people really be that lame or are all of them in on the "Big Network Fix"? Is it unreasonable to assume that big time television might be invading college football just like it has everything else. Is nothing sacred at all? These coaches and referees cannot all be stupid and retarded. There has got to be more to it than that.
Tommie T
Zac said:
posted on October 24, 2006 10:05 PM — 65.31.231.119 — link — abuse?
Tommie T: I think the phrase you're looking for is "Over Thinking". A game can get to the point where everything is going well or just better than expected. Then, for some unknown reason, within site of the finish line, a coach deviates from what had been working, playing instead, conservatively, better known as "playing not to lose". In some cases, one thing goes wrong, and a coach and his staff start thinking "Oh my god, they're going to make a come-back, if we don't do...something." Suddenly, they begin 2nd-guessing themselves and each other, and their decision making becomes a self fulfilling prophesy. More often it comes down to execution of plays. Since it is kids who play the game, it's often a function of maturity. Suddenly a player tries to do too much; another player takes an unnecessary chance and gets burnt; all too often they just panic. It's not a conspiracy, but it does make you wonder.
David said:
posted on October 26, 2006 9:08 AM — 70.112.218.104 — link — abuse?
Husker55:
He is lucky they didn't call pass interference on Nebraska. Also, "icing" the kicker is probably the most useless plan in football. If you actually look through the history of college football you will see that the times a kicker has been "iced" they actually have a higher percentage of making the kick.
Tomcat said:
posted on October 26, 2006 7:45 PM — 69.151.96.63 — link — abuse?
Husker55 I agree with Calahans use of the chalenge,unfortunatly it didn't work.Looks like the blackshirts are back in Lincoln.The Horns drove the ball down into the red zone four times in the second half and got what two feild goals.
Looking foward to another great one in the Big XII game. Hookem-Horns
Sicem-Bears Beat A&MTomcat said:
posted on October 28, 2006 3:49 PM — 69.151.96.63 — link — abuse?
The Big XII is not down at all Jake.
The best games last week were
Baylor over Kansas
A&M over Ok St
Texas over Neb
The Big East has improved and teams like Rutgers, WV and Louisville have not played teams out of conference like Ohio State,USC, Wash St.
Or played teams in conference like Nebraska, Oklahoma,Texas,Missouri, A&M,Texas Tech or Baylor
If the teams from Big East faced that kind of competition none would be undefeated.
Just saw a great OU vs Missu game
The best game this week other than the WV vs Louisville will probably be later today in Waco.
My picks as documented earlier
OU over Missu
Texas over T Tech
Baylor over A&M
Neb over Ok st
Colo over KU
Iowa St. over K St.
USC over Tenn
Fla over UGa
RU over UConn- real hard pick?
Ga Tech over Miami
Maryland over FSU
Penn St. over Purdue
ND over Navy------another tough one
Ohio State over Minn--maybe they should spot them 28 points to make it interesting?
Hookem Horns Sicem Bears
Go Terps Go YellowjacketsOU Fan said:
posted on October 28, 2006 3:52 PM — 72.161.166.39 — link — abuse?
Jake Fegan, I don't think so bud. The big 12 is starting to step to the plate and will never be worse than the Big East. Go Golden Hurricanes!! Thats was a kick ass win last night over UTEP! I also hope the Pokes can pull off the win against the cornholes in Stillwater today. And how bout them Sooners owning the Tigers of Missouri!! Go Sooners!!
Regan said:
posted on October 20, 2006 2:19 PM — 192.24.243.21 — link — abuse?Instant Replay in its current form is really screwed up, but is still ten times better than no instant replay at all.
Tying challenges to timeouts is a big mistake IMHO. I know it is an abuse-prevention measure, but I'm not one of those people bothered by waiting an extra few minutes to make certain that correct calls are made.