July 4, 2007
The Top New Rivalries in College Football
Steve Megargee of Rivals.com has been on a tear recently when it comes to college football rivalries. One of his latest columns looks at the top new rivalries in college football - the series that have become feature games without as much fanfare as your traditional Army-Navy matchups.
His top five:
1. Louisville vs. West Virginia This series has developed into one of the nation's most anticipated games so rapidly that it's hard to imagine these two teams weren't playing annually until 2005 - when they emerged as the elite programs in the revamped Big East. Not since Florida State-Miami became a big rivalry in the 1980s has a "new" rivalry been created that means so much. This year, the game again could have national championship implications. These teams have helped the Big East gain respect because the winner of this game has gone on to win a BCS game each of the last two years. Along the way, they have developed a reputation for creating fan-friendly shootouts. Each team had only one loss two years ago when West Virginia rallied from 17 points down in the final 9 minutes of regulation to beat Louisville 46-44 in triple overtime. Last year, the teams were undefeated heading into a 44-34 Louisville triumph that featured more than 1,000 yards of total offense. This could also be called the "Thursday Night" rivalry. The conference has taken advantage of non-traditional game days to increase its exposure, and this game is the crown jewel of those contests...
2. Auburn vs. LSU...
3. Texas A&M vs. Texas Tech...
4. Florida vs. South Carolina...
5. Kansas State vs. Nebraska...
I think Megargee's breakdown of both Auburn/LSU and Texas Tech/Texas A&M are particularly accurate. All in all, it's a pretty damn good list.
With the conference shuffles a few years back, the potential for some really good "new" rivalries is pretty high. After all, it was the Big East shuffle that brought UL-WVU to the forefront.
I can see a couple of potential rivalries brewing out there.....
- Virginia Tech and/or Boston College vs [Insert ACC school here]
- South Florida vs Miami.... this one has a long way to go before it gets "hot", but the potential is there
- Miami vs. FIU.... The brawl was the spark, but I'm not sure there will be enough there to start a flame
- Illinois vs somebody.... Zookster has the Tribe on a roll. A few more flag plantings and the Illini could end up with a rivalry
- Clemson vs Auburn.... This rivalry almost got white hot. It will be interesting to see if the two can extend the series beyond the new two year deal and really get this rivalry going.
- Arizona vs Arizona State... If these two ever get back to playing at the top of the Pac10, watch out. The new coaching matchups give this game the potential to be a breakthrough rivalry out west.
What's your take? What is the next big "NEW" rivalry on the college football scene? (And remember, new doesn't have to mean a new series, just that it has never garnered much along the lines of Florida-FSU, Texas-Oklahoma, Michigan-Ohio State, and the rest).
Comments:
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on July 4, 2007 1:45 PM — 68.107.105.179 — link — abuse?
This list is a really good one. Mayor has agood point too that would deserve at least the #2 or #3 spot if these teams actually met more. I'm sure that would be a bitter one to the end each game. I don't know about that Miami vs FIU though. To be a rivalry each team should win, but I don't see FIU beating Miami any time soon. However, Miami is rebuilding and FSU at the same time. These two teams will rule the ACC and I think this will be the #1 rivalry in the years to come (not that it's not already a potential #1 rivalry).
posted on July 4, 2007 2:47 PM — 152.163.100.70 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta said:
Auburn-LSU is a a hot new rivalry the past decade, with generally a share of the SEC-West up for grabs. What makes this rivalry with our Tiger brethren so interesting is that although both have been members of the same conferences since 1895, they only played 26 times prior to the annual scheduling mandated in 1992.
Auburn and LSU are as about as evenly matched as two conference opponents can be. LSU is 12th all-time nationally in number of wins, Auburn is 13th. Auburn is 4th in the SEC for conference winning percentage, LSU is 5th. LSU leads the all-time series 21-19-1.
Who can forget the Earthquake Game in 1988, when LSU drove in a late touchdown in the waning minutes to win 7-6 and the crowd noise set off the seismometers in the campus geology department? Or the 5 interceptions that LSU QB Jamie Howard threw in 1994, with 4 being returned for touchdowns, accounting for Auburn's only scoring for the day? Every game in this series is a must-see!
c-dogg said:
posted on July 4, 2007 3:56 PM — 76.188.144.228 — link — abuse?
Rutgers vs. W.Virginia...for years to come.
In a couple of years...watch out for Arizona State vs. USC. To my unresearched knowledge,neither team has been very good at the same time, but coach Erickson could change that. USC was not a powerhouse when Jake Plummer put AZ State in the Rose Bowl.
hrposon said:
posted on July 4, 2007 4:31 PM — 70.116.117.177 — link — abuse?
The West Virginia - Louisville rivalry came under the media microscope last year because the possibility existed that the best teams in college football wouldn't make it to the championship game if either Big East team went undefeated. As BCS luck would have it, justice prevailed. Look for the ACC to develop some real great new rivalries.
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on July 4, 2007 5:03 PM — 68.107.105.179 — link — abuse?
War Eagle ATL:
#6
Good post, couldn't agree more. Another rivalry in the SEC re-brewing of course is LSU vs. Alabama thanks to Nikkie Saban. I still think the AU-LSU rivalry--as far as the SEC is concerned--will be hard to beat.OU Fan said:
posted on July 4, 2007 5:42 PM — 84.146.9.74 — link — abuse?
I have to agree with you Mayor on OU vs UO. There is definately tension between these 2 teams and the hatred is slowly starting to build up from both sides. The Holiday Bowl was a good finish for an 8-4 Oklahoma team. That game had me jumping out of my chair, especially when Oregon drove down the field in the final last 2 minutes. Luckily, we made the interception to win it. It was awesome. GO SOONERS!
TrojanHorse said:
posted on July 4, 2007 5:50 PM — 75.75.86.11 — link — abuse?
Since you seem to be counting conference games; I'd throw out from my perspective that Cal-USC has become the target game (more so than the Ruins even though the hatred for the UGLY's still is > than the Bears) each P10 season since that 2003 upset (and ruined the perfect season) of SC up in berkeley.
SC has won all the rest since then, but every year all SC hears is how this is Cal's year and Cal usually is decent so it's a circled game on both teams calendar.. a lot more than it had been in the past two decades
Zac said:
posted on July 4, 2007 6:14 PM — 65.31.230.72 — link — abuse?
I think before we can say a meeting between 2 teams is a rivalry, we should consider the criteria that makes a rivalry. A team & its fans have to have a torrid dislike (don't like the word hate), not to mention a healthy respect, for both an opponent and its fans. Not only do they play each other year after year, but if one walks through a team's locker room, the game scheduled against that opponent is circled, flagged, pinned, or otherwise ear-marked on the team's bulletin board. The team's coaching staff has no trouble getting their team up for this game. Likewise, the opponent's coaching staff has no trouble either. Speaking of which, the team's coaching staff and their opponent's coaching staff probably don't like each other very much. The ESPN crew includes discussions of this match-up during "Rivalry Week", even if the two teams aren’t scheduled to play. Neither team's school needs any gimmicks to fill the stands; the game between them in-of-itself is the gimmick that draws them in.
That having been said, I agree with 1-3; I'm not sure about the rest. I got the impression FL was only going through the motions last year against SC, until they got the break they needed to pull out a victory. Oh, SC was playing for all they were worth, but FL just wasn't all there. TX doesn't play KS St every year, not to mention they weren't as lucky against KS St as was FL against SC. Neither was WVU, for that matter. They came out flat against S FL, never really got their $hit together, had an opportunity to pull it out and still fell short. Now, I'm willing to bet when WVU visits S FL this year, there will be a whole lot more enthusiasm among the Mountaineers than there was last year. This could be another rivalry in the making. Add that to Rutgers enthusiasm for playing Louisville, S FL, and WVU, and you have a 4-way rivalry brewing. To think, WVU still has to play Pitt; imagine if VA Tech hadn't gone to the ACC. Talk about getting rivalried to death…Wheeeew!!!
Tomcat said:
posted on July 4, 2007 6:49 PM — 69.150.78.60 — link — abuse?
Hate to bust yalls bubble, but there is nothing new with # 3 on the list.TTech and A&M have playing each other for about 80 years or so.
Texas Tech joined the SWC in 1952 and has played Texas A&M every year since that time and for many years prior to joining the SWC.
There is a statue on the Texas Tech campus of Will Rogers on his horse.It was erected in 1948 at a 23 degree offset north to west so the rear of the horse would face toward Texas A&M.
Will Rogers donated $200.00 for the Texas Tech band to play in the game against TCU in 1926.
Alot of these games like TTech vs Texas A&M and Texas Tech vs TCU have been going on for a long time. Maybe it just seems like a new rivalry for folks from different parts of the country or something.
#5 Dan Texas vs Arkansas will have a home & home starting next year. 2008 Thank Goodness
Hookem-Horns
Now TTech vs Ok St is kind of a new rivalry
SEMINOLE_NATION said:
posted on July 4, 2007 11:26 PM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse?
I'll just throw out a list in addition to what was mentioned...
FSU vs UNC - with Butch Davis there, could be interesting in a few years)
Clemson vs BC - the two times these two have met have been GREAT games
GT vs VT - that's getting a little heated
UGA vs SC - UGA has always hated Spurrier for whipping them at UF, now the tables have turned - for now
jessi said:
posted on July 5, 2007 1:13 AM — 74.211.44.55 — link — abuse?
A rivalry that kinda has died down at least for Tennessee fans because of all the big hoopla of the Florida game is the Alabama game. The 3rd Saturday in October just isnt the same as it used to be. Also Tennessee- South Carolina is getting hot but only becuase of the Spurrier factor. I wish to see more Tennessee vs Notre Dame in the future as well or Tennnessee vs Miami. These games have been the non-con's from the past that have left a lasting impact in my mind.
shiguy said:
posted on July 5, 2007 12:13 PM — 64.9.12.234 — link — abuse?
acutally michaelcuse there is a rivalry for syracuse it's the battle for the Schwartzwalder Trophy against west virginia. although given the series' fairly one sided outcome in WVU's favor for the past few years it's understandable to forget about it.
shiguy said:
posted on July 5, 2007 12:18 PM — 64.9.12.234 — link — abuse?
also michaelcuse it doesn't help that while both sides have won the tophy, only 3 of the 13 years since the trophy was introduced was the game decided by less than 10 points. not a very entertaining rivalry when every game is a slaughterfest.
posted on July 5, 2007 12:19 PM — 205.188.117.75 — link — abuse?
shiguy: ???? I don't watch ESPN unless it's college football season--really. Either one of those games could make it though. I watched the 1988 game on TV, but was sitting in the north end zone during the 1994 LSU game where Auburn returned most of those interceptions. Auburn was totally impotent that day offensively, but Jamie Howard kept chucking it--and Auburn kept picking it and running it back in. Howard was playing minor league baseball at the time, and a few of us were yelling for him "to pitch another one." Coach Curly Hallman knew the momentum had swung, and he was trying to get it back by keeping Howard throwing it. Damnest game I ever saw. That was Hallman's last season on the Bayou though...
posted on July 5, 2007 12:35 PM — 205.188.117.75 — link — abuse?
Eye of the Tiger: You're right about the LSU-Alabama game, there is more fuel on the fire since Saban arrived back on the scene. However, I think it will die back down to the same old boil it's always been in a few years.
The one you should bring up is the LSU-Florida rivalry. Again, same-conference foes who didn't play too regularly prior to the conference realignment, but now every year, typically with a lot riding on it for each team. As Florida's permanent opponent from the West Division, LSU serves as a great counter balance to Florida's dominance the last 16 years.
Ma_Gric said:
posted on July 5, 2007 2:04 PM — 70.44.146.82 — link — abuse?
Louisville vs. Miami is shaping up into a nice rivalry. The Cards really put the smack down on them last year after letting the game slip away at the Orange Bowl in '04.
I agree with the Oregon vs. Oklahoma rivalry brewing. There's definitely some bad blood between this schools. OU's upset in the '05 Holiday Bowl followed by last years officiating snafu sure got the ball rolling.
Tennessee/Georgia is starting to heat up again, with the road team dominating as of late. Last year's furious 2nd half comeback by UT was one of the more memorable moments of the season.
cffan09 said:
posted on July 5, 2007 2:49 PM — 68.154.144.80 — link — abuse?
i agree with most of them, just dont understand kansas st-nebraska
other possible rivalries:
wake forest/clemson- the last couple of games have been real classicsillinois/northwestern-the battle for second-to-last place in the big ten
tennessee/lsu- major comebacks in the last two games
ga tech/va tech- engineering great games for the past two years
s car/tennessee- great games the past two years, expect spurrier to be dominating this rivalry soon
oregon/oregon state- backyard brawl and battle for the most hideous uniforms in college football history
posted on July 5, 2007 3:00 PM — 205.188.117.75 — link — abuse?
Zac: I don't think you have to have a dislike for a team to have a true rivalry. Some rivalries are respectful. Take the Auburn-Georgia series--oldest rivalry in the deep South. A lot of respect for the other school is exhibited by both sides. For decades, people from each school have crossed the line to join the other. Famed Georgia coaches Vince Dooley and Erk Russell both played at Auburn, as well as storied AD Joel Eaves, who originally hired Dooley for Georgia from Auburn. Eaves actually has major buildings on both campuses named after him. Rodney Gardner, Georgia's current recruiting coordinator, played for the Tigers. Auburn got Pat Dye, who was an All-American at UGA, and current line coach Hugh Nall, who played on Georgia's 1980 NC team.
Perhaps the main reason the rivalry is so respectful is that the two teams played at neutral sites until 1959, which has a tendency to reduce fans' rabid ness. Interestingly, since they went to the home and home format 47 years ago, the visiting team has a significant winning percentage. In the eight games that I've attended in Athens, Auburn has only lost one.
Further showing the respectfulness of the rivalry, in January of 2006, the state of Georgia started offering Auburn University license plates, the first such offering for a out-of-state university. Auburn is now coming close to surpassing GA Tech for 2nd place in quantity of tags sold. Not a peep from anyone. Just last week, the Atlanta Gator club announced their intention to seek a vanity tag for their school here in Georgia, and the Bulldog nation is up in arms. Just goes to show ya!
posted on July 5, 2007 3:36 PM — 70.149.165.209 — link — abuse?
in re: to the LSU/AU '94 Interception game...That was Curley Hallman and Lynn Amedee's swan song...
That they kept a visibly rattled and shattered Howard throwing the ball is incorrigible, inconceivable, inexcusable, unforgiveable, and thankfully, an ultimately terminable offense...It lead us to Gerry DiNardon't, another bargain basement coach who gave us a glimpse of what it might be like, before realizing he couldn't get us over the hump...
He then bowed out in favor of the Nicktator, and we've been going bananas on the nation ever since...
But, that 1994 game single-handedly destroyed a kid's professional chances...Howard had all the tools to play at the next level in two different sports, but he was so rattled by that game, I'm not sure he ever recovered...
gatorhippy said:
posted on July 5, 2007 4:06 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse?
The order might be a little off, but all in all a good list...
As to what is missing...
FSU vs. Clemson...
Especially with Tommy winning three of the last four and the last two in a row...
Noles have this game circled as one of the most important...
posted on July 5, 2007 4:20 PM — 205.188.117.75 — link — abuse?
TigerED: They had that game on ESPN Classic a few months ago, and it was strange watching it for the first time since having seen it in the stands. The announcers had quite a bit to say about Hallman's motives, I seem to recall. I never did get a whiff of much of the fallout for Hallman after that season, but I'm sure that game was his coup de grace.
I hadn't seen quite a QB melt-down in Jordan-Hare since until Brandon Cox had his against Georgia last year, completing more passes to Bulldog defenders than to his own receivers.
posted on July 5, 2007 4:42 PM — 205.188.117.75 — link — abuse?
Correction. Upon further review, Jamie Howard only threw 3 interceptions that were returned for TDs, out of 5 thrown. An interesting article from the Sporting News in 1995 that chronicles that game can be found at: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_n38_v219/ai_17397091
Student Body Right said:
posted on July 5, 2007 5:30 PM — 68.5.99.3 — link — abuse?
Ditto, Trojan Horse, on the Cal-USC rivalry. Take two strong (and getting stronger) programs, recent upsets (or near-upsets), general Nor-Cal/So-Cal hostility, and throw in some recruiting battles that result in trash talk and in-game headhunting (Exhibit A: DeSean Jackson), and you've got the recipe for a nice little rivalry.
Tomcat said:
posted on July 5, 2007 6:36 PM — 69.150.78.60 — link — abuse?
War Eagle AtL I read about those Georgia gator tags. They said that the Gator tags would cause accidents, that gator fans cannot drive or read traffic signs. According to R-Eric Johnson They said it has nothing to do with the fact that UGA has lost 15 out of the last 17 with UF.
Go figure sounds like the politics have gone to the dogs
Texas vs Nebraska
since the 12 started anywayGA Boy said:
posted on July 5, 2007 9:22 PM — 66.110.197.20 — link — abuse?
Atlanta being such a metropolis here in the South we get a lot of transplants. I went to the Braves/Red Sox game a few weeks ago and I swear it seemed like I was in Boston. The Red Sox fans were louder than the Braves fans. Same goes for Football around here. You have a ton of different fans.
War Eagle is correct though, there is a respectful tone when AU comes to town. You know the percentages say that you will lose the home game. The West side of GA is made up of AU fans. I had to move from there just to get away from them. I am about 30 minutes outside Athens now and it is a beautiful thing. No AU bumper stickers or license plates to look at. Only the Red and Black. Now if I could just get my job to move me out of Metro Atlanta area to Athens, I wouldn't have to put up with the Tech nerds either.
GA-AU is definitely a great rivalry. GA=SC has been pretty damn good the past 5-6 years and it should get even better the more Spurrier does up there.
Non Dawg-related rivalries I am really starting to like,
GA Tech-Miami
LSU-FLA
WV-UL
GO DAWGS!gatordstud said:
posted on July 5, 2007 9:31 PM — 71.120.36.19 — link — abuse?
this is a tricky subject...rivalries aren't made up....they develope over a period of time....a good 7 to 10 year run of smash mouth, snot flying, mother cusing, football rivalry....where it was just as much about the coahes..as it was the players.......it can't happen in a three to four year span...
jimmie j. hurricanes against bobby b. seminoles......
barry s. sooners against tom o's cornhuskers......
bo s. against lou h. fighting irish...although that one could of used a couple more years.....
need i say more than army - navy.....my point is is that it is hard to attach "rivalry" status to football games nowadays.....either the coaches aren't sticking aroun..or the players are bolting to the nfl...or the penitentiary league.....the games were just as good as the personalities on the sidelines...
ones that do stick out and should get honorable mention...
clemson - fla state....g-hippy nailed that one
oregon - oregon st....it is coming of age ...for a pac-ten game..lol
tennessee - notre dame...that is really becoming a good one....
and i will just s ay that if the coaches of the sec...stay where they are at.....rivalries will be re-discovered....wounds re-opened......ah yes....football is coming.....
go gators....and hokies
The Mayor said:
posted on July 6, 2007 1:52 AM — 24.7.49.173 — link — abuse?
kausnefect
Bold words, but historically you are correct I admit. Wouldn't bet on that in the future though as the Oregon program has improved quite nicely since the mid 90's.
I am pretty sure that the Sooners are in no hurry to come back to Eugene or the West Coast for that matter, even with Big 12 Officials.
We used to think the same thing about the OSU Beavers...then 10 years ago we lost in Corvallis and neither team has won an away game since.
NittanyNation said:
posted on July 6, 2007 9:08 AM — 63.144.43.98 — link — abuse?
Mayor, I'm sure you wanted play Nebraska to avoid a Duck flogging (just kiddin'). Gatorstud is 100% on point. Rivalries develop over time. One that I can see possibly developing is WVU and Rutgers. They'll battle for the "Nation's Landfill" Trophy.
posted on July 6, 2007 11:24 AM — 152.163.100.70 — link — abuse?
Tomcat: The state official who was being interviewed for that article was giving a 'tongue-in-cheek interview, talking about Gator fans not being able to drive, etc. They're just trying to give a little grief to Florida fans, of which there are many in the metro Atlanta area. State law says that any school can have a vanity tag printed if the state is presented with 1000 $25 deposits from people wanting the tag. The extra cost of the vanity tag is about $50. With Atlanta having either the largest or second largest concentration of alumni for every SEC school except Arkansas, there might soon be an explosion of out of state schools being represented.
NittanyNation said:
posted on July 6, 2007 4:02 PM — 63.144.43.98 — link — abuse?
Correction-#40 I'm sure you wanted PSU to play Nebraska to avoid a Duck flogging (just kiddin').
I do slightly hold a grudge against Nebraska for that, but the roles could have easily been reversed. What the hell are they supposed to do? Petition on Penn State's behalf, haha. I'm not sure what the whole story about the Big Ten champ going to the Rose Bowl instead of the championship game shenanigans was about, but there's no doubt in my mind though that PSU had the better team. The avg. touchdown drive was hovering around 2 minutes. They had one of the best offenses in college football history and hell of a defense to match. Too bad it never happened. That would've been an awesome game!
jc in Socal said:
posted on July 6, 2007 4:39 PM — 208.57.88.168 — link — abuse?
How about LSU vs. USC?
Stewart Mandel from SI has a great article on the recent words Les Miles had for USC and the 'lack of competition' they face. He writes that this rivalry has been on since they split the national title and the war of words has been on since every since. I really hope there is a USC vs. LSU title game to shut up the SEC honks once and for all.
Fight ON...
posted on July 6, 2007 5:15 PM — 152.163.100.70 — link — abuse?
GA Boy: You're right, in western GA, many consider Auburn to be a 'Georgia' school, since it is just 25 miles inside the border, has played over 200 games against Georgia and Georgia Tech, and has always shown a willingness to play games in the state. In the Auburn-Georgia rivalry, Auburn has played in no fewer than four neutral sites located in Georgia, in addition to playing in Athens. In the Auburn-Tech series, they played the first 61 games, out of 93, in Atlanta, although I'm sure that not all were played at Grant Field. Some were probably played at Grant Park, where Auburn-Georgia played their first game in 1892. (note to non-Atlantans: yes, a lot of things named 'Grant' in our city... Different men, though)
Zac said:
posted on July 6, 2007 5:51 PM — 65.31.230.72 — link — abuse?
I think a rivalry which had potential, but was cut short ahead of its time, was BC/UConn. Before BC left for the ACC, these two had developed a formidable respect for one another. Though, I believe BC won them all, they were decent hard fought games.
While this may be a little off topic, I tend to agree with DawgKiller (Post 42). And, I think I know the reason for it. Penn St doesn't belong in the Big 10 (ahem, 11). They're really much better suited to the Big East. That doesn't mean they haven't faired well in the Big 10. Since 1993 they've had only 2 years with in-conference loosing records, and 2 years with in-conference even records, not to mention the NC they should have won in 1994 (Talk about Auburn getting ripped off in 2004.) For some reason I can't put a finger on, it seems they just don't fit in with that group. Sure, it would be great if they could join the Big East, but much as I love that guy, Joe Pa will have to see it on his terms.
posted on July 6, 2007 6:32 PM — 152.163.100.70 — link — abuse?
Here's a novel idea: how about the potential for new rivalries that are out of conference or non-regional? We all know that the top rivalry that meets this definition would be USC-Notre Dame. Some may argue that Army-Navy could technically be included, but I'd disagree. Never could you have service academies that didn't play each other, so they are inexorably linked. Can anyone think of any existing rivalries that qualify? I draw a blank.
The mechanics of today's long-lived rivalries grew out of the necessities of the day. You couldn't just take the train across half the country for a football game every week. Also, what would the fans of Georgia really care if you went all the way up and played Oregon, and vice-versa? They wanted to beat the Tennessees, Alabamas, and Floridas.
Now with today's mobile, diversified society and the sophistication of television, these non-regional, out of conference games are more attractive. It used to be that you only got this Whitman's Sampler of college football games during the bowl season. Now they occur on a more frequent basis.
Last year, ESPN played no small part in assisting Auburn in scheduling OOC games with Washington State, and then Kansas State this year, with the express purpose of them televising it. TV revenue and exposure was probably instrumental in getting both schools to agree to contracts with Auburn at such a late hour. I applauded the scheduling, and ESPN, because we all know Auburn could use a little help in the scheduling department.
ESPN probably hoped that by thinking 'out of the box' for games like these, that the novelty might prove to be a winner with most fans, not just those from the respective schools. Granted, it would take more than just one game to make people realize that a game had the potential to be a strong, non regional rivalry, but you never know. An exciting finish to a game can leave fans hungry for more.
Tomcat said:
posted on July 6, 2007 6:37 PM — 69.150.78.60 — link — abuse?
#41 War Eagle Atl Thanks for the explanation, I wasnt familiar with any state making Lincense Plates with different schools from different states on them.Here you can donate money to the Parks & Wildlife dept and get one with a horny toad on it, and I've seen a Willie Nelson add asking for folks to contribute to the Arts and get a special tag. If Texas followed Georgias lead the Aggies would buy thousands of them.
License plates or registrations here are already real expensive, My 04 Silverado $68.00
My Lone Star boat $38.00
Hookem-HornsOU Fan said:
posted on July 6, 2007 6:55 PM — 84.146.12.134 — link — abuse?
From what I read on SI.com earlier tonight, USC-LSU seems to be heating up. And also from what I read, Les Miles was talking smack about USC stating how easy the Trojans schedule will be this year. He pretty much stated that with such an easy schedule, USC's road to the national championship will be much easier than LSU's. OK, I do not like the Trojans, but to me they have shown in the past 5 years that they are a tough program, especially with the amount of strong OOC opponents they have beaten lately. That brings me to another point, USC has played much stronger OOC opponents these past 5 years than LSU. But I am not going to venture to far with this, because it will start a "which conference is the strongest" argument, and those type of arguments never end. I'm not saying that LSU is not tough, but Les Miles and LSU fans really have no room to talk sh$t at all about USC. Please, anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong. And to top it all off, Miles was even bashing Pac-10 opponents. What an freaking moron. Because Les Miles always runs his mouth is why I can't stand the guy. There was one year when he was coaching at Oklahoma State and I can't remember his exact words, but he pretty much spoke this same type of BS about the upcoming Bedlam series to OKC's Channel 5 News or News 9, I can't remember which station. The outcome of Mr. Miles' words was Bob Stoops handing him and the Cowboys their asses on a plate. Miles is a joke. We'll see how vulnerable he is after this upcoming season when he loses all of that talent. And Les Miles acts if LSU is for sure going to the national championship this year, but thats not a for sure thing. You have to take it one game at a time Les Miles, or the result of you looking so far ahead in the season will result in you getting fired because you didn't deliver a national championship to those blood thirsty LSU fans. I'm sure Tiger Ed will enlighten me of how wrong I am soon :) No hard feelings Tiger Ed. BOOMER SOONER!!
posted on July 6, 2007 8:00 PM — link — abuse?
Don't believe everything you read about LSU-USC. Yes, Miles is saying retarded things to pump the boosters. USC, on the other hand, could care less.
A rivalry requires two teams with passion.
hrposon said:
posted on July 6, 2007 9:16 PM — 70.116.117.177 — link — abuse?
Nittany Nation @ 40 - Do you know that New Jersey exports a lot of it's garbage to Pennsylvania? But I don't think it makes it all the way out to Happy Valley. - Getting back to rivalries, I kind of like the Boise State - Oklahoma rivalry.
SEMINOLE_NATION said:
posted on July 6, 2007 9:35 PM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse?
LSU is LOADED with talent. However, I'm not sure I'd be flicking USC on the nose so-to-speak if I was Miles. USC is so loaded with talent it's almost not fair. Just look at he depth chart for the RBs - they have 3 or 4 guys ranked in the top 3 RBs in their respective recruiting classes.
USC is tough enough, no need to add gas on a fire. USC may not care now, but, IF they meet for the NC - they'll remember.
c-dogg said:
posted on July 6, 2007 10:55 PM — 76.188.144.228 — link — abuse?
LSU & USC would be a good rivalry also. This really was a smart move by Les Miles. He is already working on the human polls that help decide who goes to the national title. If the country is split between LSU and whoever else (like Michigan/Florida last year), this could help LSU out. Everyone would want to see USC shut LSU up, or vice versa.
Allen in Midland said:
posted on July 7, 2007 1:04 AM — 74.197.37.12 — link — abuse?
I agree with the TTU vs. ATM rivaly heating up. Tech seems to ruin ATM's plans for a legitimate run for the Big 12 dance more and more. ATM has the most wins 34 to 29 yet I belive Tech has been the leader over the past 12 years.
posted on July 7, 2007 1:19 AM — link — abuse?
#57 - Georgia Tech vs Virginia Tech is starting to be the premier game In the ACC
REALLY? SERIOUSLY? Dude, you almost had me. I totally thought you were being serious. ;)
The Mayor said:
posted on July 7, 2007 2:05 AM — 24.7.49.173 — link — abuse?
NittanyNation
It was 14 -14 late in the 3rd quarter of the 1995 Rose Bowl when our defensive coordinator called his only Blitz of the game (I played 18 holes with the guy back in 2000 in Eugene and he replayed his thoughts on the game).
Kijana Carter up the Middle for 63 yards, touchdown, game over...
Still it was fun to see Joe Pa pacing up and down the sidelines for three quarters worried about losing to the lowly Ducks.,,when he wanted Big Red and could care less about Rose Bowl tradition, he was a newcomer to the Big 10.
We wanted the Big 10 (11) Champion and were glad to be in the Rose Bowl for only the second time in my life, the Nittany Lions were pissed about not playing Nebraska that year for the National Championship, which wilted the Rose...hence the BCS. Thanks for nothing.
You are Penn State...in my book you'll always be whiners.
The Mayor said:
posted on July 7, 2007 2:15 AM — 24.7.49.173 — link — abuse?
Hokie,
Pac 10 - Oregon vs USC?
Appreciate the confidence in UO, but we have been a Trojan whipping boy forever. Hardly a rivalary...probably more fun for Duck fans. You won't see USC fans tearing down goal posts for de-feathering my Ducks.
As much as I hate to admit, Cal vs USC is probably the Big Rivalry in the Pac 10. Although Kudos to the Beavers for stepping up and beating their P10 brethren to the South. Until somebody spanks the Trojans, a couple of times, in the Coliseum (and in West Coast recruiting), the Trojans vs Bruins will be the Pac 10 showcase...just because of the high powered Alumni interest.
The Mayor said:
posted on July 7, 2007 2:22 AM — 24.7.49.173 — link — abuse?
Nittany Nation,
Post #44
Sorry, I just read that.
PSU, as a member and Champion of the Big 10 was obligated to play in the Rose Bowl against the Pac 10 Champion. (the Oregon Ducks who lost to Hawaii that year)..there was no BCS back then.
I think that PSU vs. Nebraska would have been a classic, so did many others, thus the birth of our BCS Series.
Two years later FSU played the Vols in the Fiesta Bowl in the first BCS Championship Game...and people have been bitching ever since.
Screw Playoffs, I like the Traditional Bowl Games!!!!
The Mayor said:
posted on July 7, 2007 2:30 AM — 24.7.49.173 — link — abuse?
USC vs LSU...definitely!!! Home and Home, and as soon as possible. I'd even pony up for PPV!
Also, the Sooners need another shot at the Broncos...in Boise. I'd pay to see that one also.
Oregon State vs Boise State seems to be pretty intense.
Look to Oregon and Tennessee in the next few years with a home and home series. Doug Ainge's spawn leaving the state of Oregon for Tennessee, which isn't even a mormon school???? People in Eugene, especially Highlanders won't forget that snub.
Mr. McAteer said:
posted on July 7, 2007 11:49 AM — 71.206.247.138 — link — abuse?
gator fan
florida will be extremely talented and probably win the SEC east but i think having your relatively new qb start for the full season will show its disadvantages during the year
i believe they will lose in the championship game rematch to LSU, where the tigers will go on to play in the national chamionship.
the tigers will play the mountaineers because West Virginia has the best schedule to go 12-0
Mr. McAteer said:
posted on July 7, 2007 11:54 AM — 71.206.247.138 — link — abuse?
good choice with the top pick
i remember my brother, dad, and me went to that game in 2005 in morgantown.
WOW the best game i have ever attended in my life!
that was also the coming out party for 3 of the big east superstars brian brohm , steve slaton, and patrick white
although it was overshadowed by the game between USC and ND it was still excellent with a fantastic finish
Zac said:
posted on July 7, 2007 8:21 PM — 65.31.230.72 — link — abuse?
Agreed, Mr. McAteer! That was one hell of a game. It was the 1st time I ever saw WVU really pull a rabbit out of a hat. A couple of things, though: You forgot Mike Bush, and having invoked his name, you forgot to mention why Louisville lost in OT. After WVU scored in OT #3, including the 2pt conversion, Louisville went on the attack. As with the 1st 2 OT's, they gave Bush the ball & WVU couldn't stop him. So, will somebody explain to me why Petrino elected to go with an empty backfield & 5 WO's. With Bush in the back field, WVU would have had to account for him. With him gone, they knew the ball was going to a receiver or staying in Brohm's hands. The Mountaineers covered the receivers like pro's; Brohm was forced to run; game over. Maybe it was just as well that Petrino left. So, based upon a trade scenario discussed in a different thread, I think maybe Louisville got the better end of the deal. I guess we'll see soon enough.
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on July 7, 2007 11:55 PM — 68.107.105.179 — link — abuse?
Some of you are just straight up fools and I won't say who you are be/c you already know. You know, the ones who think who you schedule for your OOC determines how strong you are. There is a hellova lot more to a season than a couple crappy OOC games, and LSU hasn't exactly played a schedule full of softies for their OOC just to be clear. If USC faced off with LSU, and I don't care if USC went undefeated and LSU lost three games, LSU would embarrass USC. You remember all the hype surrounding Ohio St last year? Don't think I forgot about all the hype surrounding OU in 03 either. Both teams had Heisman QB's that were absolutely clueless of what to do with the football against a REAL defense. Bring it on in the SEC! Any hype will get squashed. Why haven't some of you learned by now? Do you honestly think Booty would be any different against LSU pressure Big D???? Crazy! We can debate this, but I digress. Sorry Kev, I'll get back on topic now...ummm, yea I would abso frikin lutely love to see LSU-USC square off in a home and home. You are right when you say USC doesn't care for the match. That's be/c they've been getting called out since the 04 split, and they are trying to duck out the real competition.
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on July 8, 2007 12:13 AM — 68.107.105.179 — link — abuse?
On a side note on some of Miles comments, I think a lot of it was blown a little out of proportion by the sports writers. They seemd to be having fun with it. I think they were fueling the whole debate by dropping some of the right type of questions. Not that I'm at all opposed to it.
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on July 8, 2007 12:48 AM — 68.107.105.179 — link — abuse?
Mr. McAteer:
I agree with your post #65. Judging by the schedule I think it will be very likely to see WVU in the NC this year, but it may be against USC. Or LSU. Or LSU vs USC. I don't know, out of those 3 I believe are good picks.
RTR_73 said:
posted on July 8, 2007 2:58 AM — 67.142.130.55 — link — abuse?
Great Post. I am a SEC guy I so I will start there. There are already so many great rivalries in the SEC (AL-AU, AL-TN..which some moron earlier said was dying, AU-GA, GA-FL, FL-AU, Ole Miss-Miss St, etc) it is hard to pick a "new" rivalry. AL-LSU and LSU-FL are huge games but I think the best new rivalry in the SEC in TN-GA. Coming from a Bama fan living in TN I know TN fans hate GA almost as much as Bama and this is usually a great game.
Other top new rivalries are:
the Bowden bowl..FSU-Clemson
LSU-Bama..will be even bigger this year with Saban
VT-Miami..always huge
WVU-UL...fun game b/w the best of the Big East
USC-CAL..usually the only 2 Pac10 teams with a pulse
LSU-FL...HUGE in the SEC standingsRivalry waiting to happen: (games with great pageantry and importance just not enough history)
LSU-USC... would be huge in the top conference arguments
Rivalries I would like to see: (don't play often/ever but would be fun to watch)
Bama-TexasA&M...many Bama fans are still bitter at Coach Fran... and Bama got Bear Bryant from A&M
Bama-FSU...hopefully this starts up this season... Bowden passed the Bear as winningest coach
TexasTech/Hawaii/BoiseSt...any combination of these teams could result in 2000 yds and 150 pts
ND and anyone that beats them
Chris said:
posted on July 8, 2007 2:23 PM — 70.174.104.23 — link — abuse?
Let's see here,
Clemson vs. FSU (Bowden Bowl, what more do you want?)
Clemson vs. Georgia (good ol' southern football)
Clemson vs. Auburn (used to have great games and shoulda kept facin off. let's see what they do for 08,09)
South Carolina vs. Florida (y'all know the facts there)
LSU vs. Bama (let's see how long Saban will stay before he quits)
i pesonally wanna see Georgia Tech and ND go at it more often. Miami vs. NC should be taking off soon enough too.
USC vs. the 49ers (heck, noone else will be stoppin them this year)Can't wait for football. Go Clemson!
Regan said:
posted on July 8, 2007 10:11 PM — 205.188.117.75 — link — abuse?
New Rivalries…hmmm, let’s see…
I’m an ACC guy and don’t know much of the specifics outside the East Coast and South, so I’ll stick to what I know. For a good “New Rivalry”, I feel the teams MUST play each other every year (or at least be on the docket to play this year and have played last year…) The reason is simple – one good game with an opposing team is just one good game; but RIVALRIES are bred year in and out.
Rivalries imply HISTORY. And new rivalries mean ‘History + Something new at stake’.
#1: West Virginia vs. Rutgers vs. Louisville
Everyone keeps putting forth West Virginia vs. Louisville, but I might add that for the next year or two, it looks like Rutgers might have a good chance to at least be a thorn in a champion’s side at worst, and BCS bound at best.#2: Boston College vs. Clemson
Clemson has greeted the Big East additions to the ACC with four thrilling overtime games and one lopsided loss. Since the Tigers won’t have to play Miami and VT every year, this one looks like it could be one in the making. I know I for one want to beat the crap out of those darned Eagles after the past 2 years. :-)#3: Clemson vs. Florida State
This one has been covered earlier; the facts that Clemson has actually won 3 of the last 4 and FSU seems to be on the rebound lead us to believe this could grow into a good (yet friendly) rivalry. Tommy certainly has staked out Florida as a recruiting ground, and the two teams are competing annually for that talent. It will never be FSU-Miami, but in College Football, similarities plus proximity breeds a good Rivalry.#4: South Carolina vs. Florida
As with most things that deal with the Gamecocks these days, this is pretty much all about Steve Spurrier. However, don’t expect a Spurrier-Meyer rivalry to be anything like the Spurrier-Fulmer or Spurrier-Georgia rivalries anytime soon, since Steve actually likes the Florida Gators. I have a feeling that if this turns into any rivalry, it will be the media that does it…or at least calls it that.#5: Southern California vs. California
Much too much has hinged upon these games lately for this to not be considered a good candidate for a “New Rivalry”. More often than not, the Trojans seem mortal when they play the Bears; and the nation knows it. Given the proximity on top, and this qualifies in my book.What I would consider NOT to be “New Rivalries”:
#1: Florida vs. Louisiana State:
Close, and some recent great games with meaningful outcomes, but the fact they aren’t in the same Division means a real “rivalry” is unlikely. This could change if this year’s game is a close one and if they meet in Atlanta, though.#2: Louisiana State vs. Southern California
They haven’t even played each other (recently) yet. The question was “New Rivalries”, not “possible future rivalries”. The same goes for any other teams that haven’t played.All IMHO, as always :-)
DEMON said:
posted on July 9, 2007 11:12 AM — 160.227.129.224 — link — abuse?
SEC fans are always good for a laugh. Talking about LSU dominating USC? You must mean the Gamecocks, because I don't believe the Trojans have ever been dominated by an SEC team. Not recently, anyway. How badly did USC beat Arkansas, the SEC West champ? SEC defenses are good.... but only against SEC offenses. SEC defenses are no match for the might of the Trojan offense! USC could probably hang 45 points on the All-SEC team. Fight on...
Willygoc said:
posted on July 9, 2007 1:28 PM — 208.109.248.6 — link — abuse?
Bush's birthday is not a big deal but really should! I wish him good health and clear mind!
Soma addiction
Soma addiction and lying
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on July 9, 2007 2:26 PM — 68.107.105.179 — link — abuse?
Hey Demon, if you could let me know any time in recent history that LSU lost to Arkansas I'll agree with your last comment. Otherwise, it's a moot point that doesn't mean, or prove sh__. However, some of my theories are proven, and that is any SEC team that has one loss on their record will beat any team you put in front of them come NC time. Prove me wrong.
gatorstud said:
posted on July 9, 2007 3:49 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
hey demon #75...you should really say those kind of things in your head before saying it outloud....that is a pretty stupid statement.....if i am not mistaken..that is what people thought about the gators and ohio state in the title game...they though o-state would roll over florida....so while it looks good in your brain that southern cal would whip an sec all american team....i seriously doubt they would....i would put up florida..lsu..tenn...auburn....and yes even south carolina....against usc any day of the week...and twice on sundays......
go gators...and hokies
DEMON said:
posted on July 9, 2007 3:54 PM — 160.227.129.224 — link — abuse?
Eye of the Tiger: although the Razorbacks didn't beat LSU, they came very close (31-26, LSU). In that game, they outgained the Tigers on offense, and most of their yardage came through the air-game. That's Arkansas! What do you think USC would do against a defense that weak? Now I do agree that LSU is much better than Arkansas, but not so much better that the Tigers could handle Booty and Co. It would be fun to watch USC thrash LSU's secondary, but since LSU won't make it to the N.C., I guess we'll never get to see the Tigers hang their heads while the Trojan fireworks go off overhead!
UTHorn0082 said:
posted on July 9, 2007 4:25 PM — 160.227.129.224 — link — abuse?
Yo DEMON - Finally someone called it the way it is! SEC defenses look great against SEC teams, but usually look pretty boring against everyone else. Of course there are exceptions - like OSU/UF and LSU/ND last year - but look at all the other OOC games played by SEC teams. I also think USC could beat an All-SEC team, but 45 points might be a stretch. Look how all the SEC guys get worked up when they're called out...what fun!
Regan said:
posted on July 9, 2007 5:50 PM — 64.12.116.77 — link — abuse?
DEMON (#75, #80):
I really don't normally care, but if it's going down this way, let me say I have respect for your Trojans and the awesome teams they have had in the last few years. But, I just have to put something forth:
Southern California has an impressive record against the SEC (16-10-1), including the last four, which were all impressive wins.
However, those four wins were against only two SEC teams. They were good teams, mind you, but would the Trojans be able to deal with more balanced teams like LSU, Tennessee, or Florida? What about a schedule that has all three and a Georgia here and an Auburn there?
TBH, I certainly don't know. The Trojans are a darned good team, but just tone down on the Apocalypse vs. SEC scenerios, please.
Before any more hardcore SEC folks see this, see red, and then see thread locked.
SEC guys - I have covered it all; it's okay!
I like this thread, dude :-) Take it easy or we'll lose it!
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on July 9, 2007 6:53 PM — 138.163.0.44 — link — abuse?
Once again Demon, your point is moot and doesn't prove sh__. In your theory I could bring up the thrashing that LSU did to Arizona... I think it was something like 45-0 early in the 3rd quarter when the Tigers put in the 3rd string. Oh, wait, didn't Arizona ALMOST beat USC last year??? Hmmm. In your theory USC was waaaay overated last year and you know what, I think you're right.
VOLPIMP said:
posted on July 9, 2007 10:26 PM — 208.0.27.10 — link — abuse?
And we won't even mention the UT/Cal game Demon. I do have total respect for the Trojans, but they struggled in the stretch by their standards. There is such a thing as too much talent, then egos take over and the team attitude goes south. Coach Carroll has his toughest coaching ahead of him to keep the team focused, I expect a meltdown in the next year or two, it happens to everyone sooner or later.
OU Fan said:
posted on July 10, 2007 3:21 AM — 139.139.51.70 — link — abuse?
I like to consider myself a realist, so I will give my realist opinion. VOLPIMP, no disrespect, but the Vols are going to lose this year to Cal. I believe Cal will deliver back to Tennessee what Tenessee delivered to Cal, an A$$ woopin. And Gatorstud, if the South Carolina Gamecocks played USC, the Cocks would get destroyed. And Gatorstud, those are high words for a Florida team that lost 9 defensive starters last season. How great do you think the Gator defense will really be?? I can see FSU leaving Gainsville with a win. And Eye of the Tiger, USC pretty much returns their whole d@MN team from last season, with Booty included. The Trojans are going to be an extremely tough team to beat. And LSU will have a new QB taking snaps. Yes Flynn was in the game when Miami got destroyed 40-3, but you should worry about LSU's schedule one game at a time and not be so certain that your team will make it to the big game or the Tigers' fans will be watching the national championship game from their TV's at home. And you can ramble on about all your facts, but the fact of the matter is is that USC destroyed the Razorbacks in Arkansas. That same Arkansas wooped Auburn in Auburn, Auburn beat Florida the 07 national champions, and the 07 national champions wooped the Tigers when the Tigers had the number 1 draft pick taking the snaps. And that same Arkansas team gave the 07 national champions a run for their money in the SEC Championship game. BOOMER SOONER!!
Zac said:
posted on July 10, 2007 11:43 AM — 65.31.230.72 — link — abuse?
OU Fan, for one who's referred to himself as a realist, you've certainly cornered the market on conjecture. While I agree; USC will be the team to beat this year; they're likely going to make the NC game; they did a number on AR last year; they're also the same team that lost to 2 (count em), TWO unranked teams: OR St & UCLA. You remember OR St, the same team that lost BIG to Boise St, and Boise St, the same team that pulled it out against your Sooners. We've all had this argument before. It's only one game, and one game doesn't make an entire season. Yes, it goes down as a win or a loss; yes the results go down as historical fact as well, but it's the entire season that represents the resume' of a team's performance, not one game. Are you about to say your Sooners had a bad season?
Consider the Cal/TN match-up. This could shape up to be one heck of a rivalry. Though Cal will be primed when TN comes a callin (They'd better be.), don't be surprised if the Vol's take it.
TX/OSU, another match-up that has rivalry written all over it. In the past 2 seasons they have each won on the other team's field.
While I agree with your assessment of FL for this coming season, had OSU played FL in Gainesville in the season opener, I think OSU still comes away with the win. But, on January 8th, I don't think there was a team in the country capable of beating the Gators, not even the Super Bowl Champions. It's all about timing, a team's preparation & maturity, and in the end, it's only one game. That is, with the exception of a conference championship, or NC, one game does not a season make. Just a thought.
NittanyNation said:
posted on July 10, 2007 12:12 PM — 63.144.43.98 — link — abuse?
hrpson #54, my Dad went to Rutgers over Penn State amongst other schools. Nothing against Rutgers, just the rest of the state of New Jersey. You kind of proved my point though so I'll go ahead and thank you. Anyway, it does suck being a Penn State fan and being everyone's #2 rivarly. I definitely wouldn't mind if PSU-WVU or PSU-Rutgers started playing annually.
On another note, VA Tech-LSU is gonna be a tasty pre-conference schedule treat. If only more teams had the balls to schedule tough OOC games, Penn State included.
OU Fan said:
posted on July 10, 2007 3:13 PM — 84.146.19.218 — link — abuse?
Zac post 88, OU had a great season last season. They went 11-3 with a Big 12 Championship. And to top it off, I really can't think of any team off the top of my head that went through as many obstacles as the Sooners i.e. losing the starting QB and a starting O-lineman a month before the season, losing a controversial game at Oregon, and losing an all-star RB midway through the season. But then again, they did go undefeated after the Texas loss in conference play and went on to win the Big 12 championship. And OU lost to a good Boise State team. On that matter, I strongly believe that last years Boise State team could beat just about anyone in the nation. Yes Boise State had the lead most of the game, but OU fought back. Not only did they fight back, but they took the lead. And then the chain of events after that, well, we all know were historical. It always sucks when your team loses a close one, but OU-Boise State was a great game. And I have no hatred towards LSU, I just STRONGLY disagree that their coaches and fans have room to talk sh$t about a school that has a far larger and more richer football history than they do. Otherwise, I wouldn't be on here. Thats my opinion. BOOMER SOONER!!
The Mayor said:
posted on July 10, 2007 5:51 PM — 24.7.49.173 — link — abuse?
Eye of the Tiger
Thanks for that #91....although I am hoping that ASU, UA, UCLA, OSU step up this year.
How do you feel about your season this year? I think the schedule favors LSU to possibly go undefeated with VT and Alabama being the tough away games.
We're going to enjoy watching Jamarcus Russell out here in the SF Bay area.
Have a great season...52 days to go!
The Mayor said:
posted on July 10, 2007 5:53 PM — 24.7.49.173 — link — abuse?
Eye of the Tiger
Thanks for that #91....although I am hoping that ASU, UA, UCLA, OSU step up this year.
How do you feel about your season this year? I think the schedule favors LSU to possibly go undefeated with VT and Alabama being the tough away games and Florida and Auburn at home.
We're going to enjoy watching Jamarcus Russell out here in the SF Bay area.
Have a great season...52 days to go!
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on July 10, 2007 6:31 PM — 138.162.0.44 — link — abuse?
Pac-10 will be alot stronger this year with those teams mentioned and I don't think it will be as easy as many people think for USC to waltz into the NC. Those teams you mentioned brought USC to the wire last year and I think they will be ready again. Don't forget about Stanford either. Well, maybe not this year, but soon. Harbaugh is about to do some good things for that team.
LSU should be primed for the NC. I don't worry when I think about Flynn steering the team. I highly encourage any doubters to watch the games he played in, and you will see one of the most confident QB's who makes wise decisions with the football. Plus, he's more mobile than Jamarcus and that helps alot at this level. VT will actually be played at home, so I don't think there will be a problem there. The Tigers better be ready for them though. The tough away games will be Alabama as you mentioned and believe it or not, Ole Miss. LSU barely got into over time to beat them last year and that was a home game. Besides that, business as usual in the SEC. I'm not expecting them to go undefeated. I'm praying they lose only one and we may get to see them do some damage in the Super Dome.
Zac said:
posted on July 10, 2007 7:05 PM — 65.31.230.72 — link — abuse?
OU Fan, again, I agree with you, in that your Sooners had a great season, one to be proud of. And, I thought you had a good point going there until you lost me at the last with,
"...the fact of the matter is is that USC destroyed the Razorbacks in Arkansas. That same Arkansas wooped Auburn in Auburn, Auburn beat Florida the 07 national champions, and the 07 national champions wooped the Tigers when the Tigers had the number 1 draft pick taking the snaps..."
By way of that argument, USC was better than LSU last year. That's arguable, given LSU beat Notre Dame about as badly as MI beat Notre Dame, and USC beat MI. However, using the same chain of logic, OR St winds up being better than FL, the NC's. That was my point. You & I both know, that just isn't true.
As stated earlier, I do agree with you; USC brings back practically the entire fleet. They will be tough to beat this year, and probably next year as well. On the other hand, LSU brings back a solid "D", and only had a few holes to fill on "O". Where you and I disagree is, I don't think Flynn will hurt them at QB. I think he'll be just fine. That's why I'm thinking when it's all said and done, it'll be LSU/TN for the SEC title. Of course, it's way too early to tell, and no doubt K-Hue is fuming because I'm off topic. Sorry about that Kev. Boomer Sooner!!!
PW2000 said:
posted on July 11, 2007 9:28 PM — 70.196.29.58 — link — abuse?
All games played in the state of Florida will always be the top rivalry material.
I don't care if you are in Oklahoma, TX, California or Ohio. Every football fan in america is always waiting to see FSU vs. Miami or FSU vs. Florida...
it just doesn't get any better.
now that Florida has recently brought the trophy back to the football state I look forward to the renewed and meaningful rivalries to dominate the TV screens and our minds once again.
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on July 12, 2007 1:07 PM — 138.163.0.36 — link — abuse?
Zac,
Thank you for 95. I was too tired of bringing out that arguement. I didn't want to go there, so I left it alone, but I'm glad you did.
PW2000,
I don't know why FLA ST. vs Miami isn't up there. That's always been a great rivalry decided by missed field goals.
#1ACT said:
posted on July 13, 2007 12:05 AM — 72.199.224.33 — link — abuse?
I have a new idea as far as rivalries are concered lets get rid of the north vs south east vs west games for the nfl scouts let all the kids thats want to go to the NFL play in confrence all star games after the bowls are over SEC 07S VS Big 10 07s, ACC 07 VS PAC 10 07,BIG 12 vs BIG EAST ect let the confrences switch every other year that be better than NFC VS AFC HULA BOWL OR SOME LODGE GAME OUT THERE
bigglesworth said:
posted on July 13, 2007 3:01 PM — 69.252.177.67 — link — abuse?
I think the 1992 team is ranked way too low by most of you. They finished 11-1 and #2 in the nation. Sure, Chollie struggled some early, but by the end of the year, they were, in my opinion, the best team in the country. I remember watching the replay of the UF game and hearing Brent Musburger say just that (for what it's worth). If they'd have just made the field goal to tie Miami, I think they would have been in New Orleans playing 'Bama instead of the Hurricants. A good point was made about criteria for the ranking. What's more important? I'm looking more at which teams would win head-to-head. In that regard, I think the 1999 team, even though it went undefeated and wire-to-wire, is probably about 6th best. I'd rate 1993, 1991, 1992, 1996, and 1987 ahead of 1999.
I also think if Thomas had made the field goal in 1991, it would have completely erased "Wide Right" from history. We would have won MNC's in 1991-93, Nebraska wouldn't have lost to Texas in 1996 and we would have kicked their butts for the championship, we would have beaten UF in 1997 and beaten Nebraska again for either a split NC with Michigan or the title outright, Weinke wouldn't have gotten hurt in 1998 and we would have beaten UT, and Snoop would have been eligible against OU in the 2001 OB, which we would have won. So, in case you're counting, IMO, making the kick in 1991 would have led to an alternate reality in which we won NC's in 1991-93 and 1996-2000; that's 8 in a span of 10 years. Where's Doc Brown with a DeLorean when you need one?
Mike said:
posted on July 14, 2007 5:55 PM — 69.202.124.221 — link — abuse?
8. hrposon says:
posted on July 4, 2007 04:31 PM — IP: 70.116.117.177 — link"The West Virginia - Louisville rivalry came under the media microscope last year because the possibility existed that the best teams in college football wouldn't make it to the championship game if either Big East team went undefeated. As BCS luck would have it, justice prevailed. Look for the ACC to develop some real great new rivalries."
And the National Championship was such a great game, hahaha. Get real. The Big East is one of the strongest conferences in college football these days, whether you like it or not. READ:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc06.htm
steve conner said:
posted on July 16, 2007 9:59 AM — 74.131.212.190 — link — abuse?
i agree on these rival games. in the big east,i also think s fla vs louisville is big. the home team seems to fry the other team. cincy vs louisville and this rival game will be better if uc fans will start showing up for games. ru vs w va is heating up as well. i fear s fla, these guys can play and i see this program growing as well. miami and fla st. are going down hill and this program will pick up the slack and steal some players from miami and fla st. pitt wold really help start some hardcore rival games in the big east if their play gets better. they have the players to do so. i like watching colo st. vs colo, ole miss vs memphis, tenn vs memphis and memphis pulls an upset every now and then againist them. ohio st vs cincy.
College football Junky said:
posted on July 18, 2007 1:53 AM — 74.170.59.113 — link — abuse?
I agree with Bamafan on the Michigan/Wisconsin rivalry starting-Wisconsin and PJ Hill should derail the Wolverines national title hopes this year. Watch for 1-FSU being better than people think this year-Antone Smith, their rb, is a freak and 2-UF being worse than people think (Tebow is great, but all that running is going to get him injured. Stay tuned for more predictions as the season approaches!
College football Junky said:
posted on July 18, 2007 1:58 AM — 74.170.59.113 — link — abuse?
Watch out for USF this season. That qb, Matt Grothe, should be the most exciting player in the Big East
Lawdawg51 said:
posted on July 21, 2007 9:55 PM — 192.156.58.34 — link — abuse?
South Carolina vs. the rest of the SEC East! The Gamecocks are coming up to speed fast, and no one will stop them in the next year or two. So have your fun if you will for now, cause in the coming years, we'll have the last laugh! GO COCKS!!!
Nik said:
posted on July 26, 2007 1:52 PM — 222.94.96.247 — link — abuse?
Virginia Tech v Georgia Tech: These two teams have swapped wins with each other the past two years in fierce competition and each year it cost the division title for the losing team. I think the two "TECH" schools in the ACC would find a great passion for this rivalry that would also show up in the academic programs as well. And ABSOLUTELY should be called "TECHmobowl"! GO HOKIES!!!
Ron Uharriet said:
posted on July 26, 2007 9:19 PM — 72.67.15.110 — link — abuse?
Anyone that does not put the annual BYU VS. Utah game near the top of your list for strongest rivarly has not been to or watched on T.V. a BYU/Utah football game. These two teams go nuts when playing each other. The stadium is packed. No tickets are available weeks before game day at any price.
Huskerpedia said:
posted on July 27, 2007 10:49 PM — 76.192.5.108 — link — abuse?
If Princeton can ever return to the National Spot Light I could see a Rutgers vs Princeton "Battle For The Hudson River" Rivalry Game..
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shiguy said:
posted on July 4, 2007 11:02 AM — 68.81.91.178 — link — abuse?you should also take into the mix that Louisville came into the BE saying they were going to be the new kings of the conference before they even started playing the teams in it. that right there is asking for trouble.