September 10, 2007
Week 2 College Football Polls
College football polls for week 2 (ending September 10, 2007)
Associated Press College Football Top 25 Poll
1 Southern Cal (40) 1-0 1594 1 at Nebraska (2-0)
2 LSU (25) 2-0 1582 2 vs. Middle Tenn. (0-2)
3 Oklahoma 2-0 1418 5 vs. Utah State (0-2)
4 West Virginia 2-0 1408 3 at Maryland (2-0)
5 Florida 2-0 1370 4 vs. Tennessee (1-1)
6 Texas 2-0 1290 7 at UCF (1-0)
7 Wisconsin 2-0 1171 5 vs. The Citadel (2-0)
8 California 2-0 1126 10 vs. Louisiana Tech (1-1)
9 Louisville 2-0 1097 8 at Kentucky (2-0)
10 Ohio State 2-0 962 12 at Washington (2-0)
11 UCLA 2-0 910 13 at Utah (0-2)
12 Penn State 2-0 896 14 vs. Buffalo (1-1)
13 Rutgers 2-0 820 15 vs. Norfolk St. (1-0)
14 Nebraska 2-0 693 16 vs. Southern Cal (1-0)
15 Georgia Tech 2-0 590 21 vs. Boston College (2-0)
16 Arkansas 1-0 537 18 at Alabama (2-0)
17 South Carolina 2-0 477 33 vs. South Carolina St. (1-1)
18 Virginia Tech 1-1 382 9 vs. Ohio (2-0)
19 Oregon 2-0 367 29 vs. Fresno State (1-1)
20 Clemson 2-0 349 25 vs. Furman (1-1)
21 Boston College 2-0 323 26 at Georgia Tech (2-0)
22 Tennessee 1-1 284 24 at Florida (2-0)
23 Georgia 1-1 261 11 vs. Western Carolina (0-2)
24 Hawaii 2-0 247 20 at UNLV (1-1)
25 Texas A&M 2-0 243 23 vs. La.-Monroe (0-2)
USA Today Coaches Football Top 25 Poll
1 Southern Cal (42) 1-0 1476 1 at Nebraska (2-0)
2 LSU (11) 2-0 1437 2 vs. Middle Tenn. (0-2)
3 Florida (7) 2-0 1353 3 vs. Tennessee (1-1)
4 West Virginia 2-0 1269 4 at Maryland (2-0)
5 Oklahoma 2-0 1264 6 vs. Utah State (0-2)
6 Texas 2-0 1156 7 at UCF (1-0)
7 Wisconsin 2-0 1141 5 vs. The Citadel (2-0)
8 California 2-0 1038 10 vs. Louisiana Tech (1-1)
9 Louisville 2-0 1020 8 at Kentucky (2-0)
10 Ohio State 2-0 972 11 at Washington (2-0)
11 UCLA 2-0 837 14 at Utah (0-2)
12 Penn State 2-0 804 15 vs. Buffalo (1-1)
13 Rutgers 2-0 699 16 vs. Norfolk St. (1-0)
14 Nebraska 2-0 677 17 vs. Southern Cal (1-0)
15 Georgia Tech 2-0 582 21 vs. Boston College (2-0)
16 Arkansas 1-0 493 18 at Alabama (2-0)
17 Virginia Tech 1-1 371 9 vs. Ohio (2-0)
18 Texas A&M 2-0 325 23 vs. La.-Monroe (0-2)
19 Boston College 2-0 315 25 at Georgia Tech (2-0)
20 Clemson 2-0 311 26 vs. Furman (1-1)
21 Oregon 2-0 309 30 vs. Fresno State (1-1)
22 Hawaii 2-0 308 22 at UNLV (1-1)
23 South Carolina 2-0 294 31 vs. South Carolina St. (1-1)
24 Tennessee 1-1 237 24 at Florida (2-0)
25 Georgia 1-1 199 12 vs. Western Carolina (0-2)
Comments:
1st_and_NOLE
posted on September 10, 2007 8:54 PM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse?
said:
I think early on teams should be moved up and down accordingly.
USC may very well be the best team in the country, but they haven't done anything to EARN the #1 ranking on the football field. The #1 ranking was GIVEN to USC due to their talent ON PAPER.
However, last weekend LSU flat out EARNED the #1 spot ON THE FIELD. They completely destroyed a top 10 team and the #1 defense the past two years running.
#1 LSU
#2 OU
#3 USCNow if USC destroys Neb, I say move them up to #2. I think early on teams should move based on what they've done to date on the football field, not on paper.
Demille said:
posted on September 10, 2007 9:14 PM — 63.246.174.180 — link — abuse?
The polls are weekly and voted weekly, yes LSU did their job and should be #1, this is no slight on USC, it is how polls should work. USC is off, so what, LSU was playing a top ten team, POLLS are what you did this week!!!
CUTotalTiger said:
posted on September 10, 2007 9:57 PM — 68.59.7.45 — link — abuse?
Little Cock and mis-fire,
Curious why would you say Clemson is not deserving of their ranking. One could easily make the argument that the Shamecocks win over Georgia was an upset and could not happen again. Then when one looks at the stats and sees that Geogia had more rushing yards and passing yards; you realize that South Carolina is over ranked.
The Georgia quarterback missed open receivers THREE times for touchdowns. Keep it up Cock and Misfire, you scored 16 points against Georgia and 28 against La. Lafayette. I do not suppose those numbers are going to get it done against teams that can score.... say LSU. And I have seen your 31-17 prediciton of a Shamecock victory at LSU I am just surprised the LSU folks have not started to make fun of you.Seminole Jack said:
posted on September 10, 2007 10:26 PM — 71.226.133.103 — link — abuse?
This is my big beef with the polls. The polls should come out about week 3 or 4 when the voters have had a chance to look at the teams a little bit.
The preseason rankings are half guessing and are half based upon the past performance of teams. But for some reason about week 2 or 3 of the season, the preseason rankings of teams near the top become set in stone as long as no one loses. How can they explain that.
Now I think that USC has amazing talent and may be the best team when all is said and done, but at this point in the season LSU has a better body of work than anyone in the country. If USC is truly a better team they will rise to the occassion and climb over LSU. THE POLLS SHOULD BE BASED UPON WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, NOT WHAT THE POLLSTERS THINK YOU WILL DO LATER IN THE SEASON!!
Seminole Jack said:
posted on September 10, 2007 10:27 PM — 71.226.133.103 — link — abuse?
This is my big beef with the polls. The polls should come out about week 3 or 4 when the voters have had a chance to look at the teams a little bit.
The preseason rankings are half guessing and are half based upon the past performance of teams. But for some reason about week 2 or 3 of the season, the preseason rankings of teams near the top become set in stone as long as no one loses. How can they explain that.
Now I think that USC has amazing talent and may be the best team when all is said and done, but at this point in the season LSU has a better body of work than anyone in the country. If USC is truly a better team they will rise to the occassion and climb over LSU. THE POLLS SHOULD BE BASED UPON WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, NOT WHAT THE POLLSTERS THINK YOU WILL DO LATER IN THE SEASON!!
David said:
posted on September 10, 2007 10:45 PM — 66.69.219.144 — link — abuse?
Things that I disagree with:
1. Texas A&M at 18th in the Coaches Poll
They barely beat Fresno St. in triple overtime yet they moved up a bunch of spots...
2. Oklahoma at 3 in the AP poll
They played North Texas who was using a basic high school offense and Miami who is more of a name than a real program. Who exactly have they beaten that makes them deserve to shoot up so much? They started somewhere around 7th...
3. Texas at 6 in both polls
I understand why we were dropped last week and had no problem with it. We proved we deserved to be where we were ranked at the beginning of the season after the TCU game. Put us back where we belong!
Tomcat said:
posted on September 10, 2007 10:54 PM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
#1 Kev Ya your right. I was surprized that TCU fell out after a good game in Austin. I was also surprized that Hawaii gave up over 40 points to La Tech and didnt drop.
Really impressed with Oregon and Washington.
Next week the Louisville vs Kentucky
G Tech vs Boston C
Akansas vs Alabama
USC vs Neb
Tenn vs Fla
OSU vs Wash
After these games the polls will change
Louisville at Kentucky ---Wildcats
They are at home, defense is probably better than Mid Tenn and they have a good QB as well.Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 10, 2007 11:08 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey David...here are some facts for ya! ut opened their 2006 season with 'em. Where UNT better than or worse now? ut opened up their 2007 season with Arkansas State which is in the same conference as UNT. Does that make Arkansas Stae better or UNT worse? ut struggled against ASU in their season opener and OU had no real scare. Does this make ASU better or UNT worse? OU has been consistant in their 2 games even if the ooponents were unranked. If I am ot mistaken some ut fans stated that Miami was gone give OU a game. Where they wrong or stupid? ut plays well for 2 quarters so does that make them better than LSU, OU, or West Virginia? Think before you response!
David said:
posted on September 10, 2007 11:42 PM — 66.69.219.144 — link — abuse?
Lennie you need to learn how to make a point because there are none in either of your posts. Apparently the OU extension course you took didn't teach that.
I know UT played UNT last year... I was at the game... Texas blew them out like y'all did. We didn't move up in the rankings above Ohio State after the game and UNT was a lot better last year than they are this year. They are in a transition stage with their new coach and they were running one defense the entire game which is a high school defense (My above post should say defense instead of offense).
Just to show you how bad UNT is, they lost to SMU this week 45-31. This is the same SMU that struggled to score 9 against a pretty bad Tech defense and gave up 49 to Tech.
Just because UNT and Arkansas State are in the same conference doesn't make them equal. That's like saying Texas and Iowa State are equally challenging opponents.
I do not disagree that Oklahoma has been consistent (with an e) in their 2 games but that's just further proving my point. They have done nothing to show that they should jump all these teams they have jumped. Some UT fans did think Miami would give OU a better game than they did but I don't think anyone kidded themselves that their offense could do much against OU's defense.
You are being overly defensive and anti-Texas (which isn't surprising from a Sooner). I think y'all have a pretty good team this year and will give us all we can handle at the Cotton Bowl but I just don't agree with the amount y'all have jumped up in the polls. You jumped 2 spots after beating a horrible North Texas team, and then another 2 spots after beating Miami. I don't see how you can claim OU is the 3rd best team in the nation 2 weeks after claiming they were the 7th best team in the nation without really proving anything.
My beef with Texas' ranking is that we dropped (and deservedly so) after not playing a great game against Arkansas State because it raised some question. Both our defense and offense dominated top 20 TCU and I think that we deserve to be back where we started (4th) because we answered all those questions. If you think we only played 1 good half, you didn't watch the game or look at the box score.
Let's not forget OU lost to TCU a few years ago...
My top 5 would be:
1. LSU (VTech was overrated but they still look great)
2. USC (If they blow out Nebraska they might deserve #1)
3. WVU (Not sure I think they're the 3rd best team in the country but their chance of going undefeated is pretty high)
4. Texas
5. OUThe point is moot because it will all be decided on October 6th
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 10, 2007 11:54 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah...When no one bows down to worship ut then they are considered foolish. I don't like ut because the university, teams, and fans think everyone should do what they are doing to praise them. You still did not answer all my question because you can't. Your arguement about the polls are just as foolish. ut fans can't handle the truth. We played 2 good quarters of football all season so far we should be #1. What is moot? When ut gets beat by OU please go away for another 36 years please.
Tomcat said:
posted on September 11, 2007 12:15 AM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
Polls really dont mean much at this point of the season just ask Michigan.
Right now UT 2-0
OU 2-0
After the Red River Shootout the OU fans can cry again after loosing to a far inferior underanked UT team.Or will OU pull off an upset over the far superior Horns. Kinda doubt it
Talk noise after you defeat a top 20 opponent like UT
Hookem-HornsLennie collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 12:34 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
ut fans keep contradicting themselves. I noticed some are saying preseason or polls don't mean anything yet they are talking junk about beating TCU which was ranked #19 by the polls. Which is it silly ut fans, do they mean sumethin or not?
cock'n'fire south carolina 101 said:
posted on September 11, 2007 1:25 AM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
ok mr total tiger
im ok with u calling me cock n misfire, but making fun of my name the little cock and prefire crap like that doesnt sound very cool so just stick with cock and misfire or just say cock and fire or even if u feel like calling me my real name just call me seth but this is starting to get weird...now getting to what i was gonna say, did u even read the comments i was posting about the predictions...spurrier isnt playing with his maximum effort yet on purpose...you know what a spurrier coach team looks like and that was not it...spurrier is more of an offensive guy and so far all weve been showing is speed on our defense and a few good plays on offense nothing big...and those 3 missed passes were because of extremely nice play on defense...captain munnerlyn who no doubt will be an all american next year broke up 2 of those and zone passes where one he jumped above the georgia receive and smacked that ball right out of his face and another he hit the guy so hard the ball got knocked out of his hands and another 2 passes that werent to the endzone HE ACTUALLY DROPPED THE INTERCEPTION so they were more intended to him than the georgia receiver and the last end zone catch was an executed defensive play by carlos thomas who left the feild limping after it...so they didnt drop those it was the defense that executed in those plays...our defense stopped them everywhere so u cant say they messed up anywhere however they did get some good completions but we still didnt let them score a touchdown so our defense dominated...and last thing i have to say about the domination did u see how badly we executed on reading the trick play georgia tried...they were lucky to get the ball thrown away before a HUGE 40 yard sack...if u have the chance look over our games again and ull notice what steve spurrier was trying to do...he knows what hes doing and i think hes going to start coaching to his maximum potential come time to play LSU...so that is why i predicted a 33-10 win over sc statet and a 31-17 win over LSU...south carolina has a really good team this year and on september 22nd all the cards will be put on the table and youll see exactly whats going on with our team
and clemson doesnt deserve that spot because look at how crappy of a team florida state had and that win against LA monroe wasnt too impressive either
and the gamecocks deserve the spot they have because be beat #11 georgia who had already proved themselves of being worthy of the spot by beating oklahoma state
if clemson loses to furman i am going to be laughing so hard at all my clemson friends at skool
probly wont happen but im pulling for furmam this year as i am a paladin fan behind the gamecocks...but next yeer we play furman and i wont be a paladin fan that game
GO COCKS!(2-0) and GO CHARGERS!(1-0)
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 1:43 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
FACT is the majority of voters feel OU is the better team right now. So ut fans cry, whine, lie, call names, make fun, bring up the past, moan, complain, commit suicide, whatever! We will all see who is better HEAD ta HEAD on 10/06.
Tomcat said:
posted on September 11, 2007 3:28 AM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
#25 Hey Lennie I was refering to UT as top 20 team.Putting a whuping on N Tex and UM aint the same. After another defeat in Dallas then yall can talk noise, complain about the refs whatever.
Texas owns Oklahoma always has and always will.
You know Texas is superior, thats why the Okies hate the Horns so much.
#27 Who cares what the voters think, yall still havent beaten UT.Are these the same voters that had Mich #3? Looks like another victory for UT
Lennie I'm looking foward to a three-peat 10/6/07
Hookem-Horns
OU suxOU Fan said:
posted on September 11, 2007 8:13 AM — 139.139.51.70 — link — abuse?
Tomcat post #28, I noticed that you do not like to give credit where credit is due. But before I get to that, first I want to state that I've noticed in the past that you enjoy seeing the Aggies win. Well, I got news for you bud, but I think Miami will stomp Texas A&M. ATM is struggling and they will not be able to beat a pissed off Miami Hurricane team. Now, in your post #28 you said "Texas owns Oklahoma always has and always will." "What the hell does that have to do with how well OU is playing football so far? If thats your state of mind, Oklahoma has more Conference Championships, National championships, Heisman trophy winners, and owns the current longest winning streak in college football, always have and always will. Tomcat, on your post #23 you keep stating that Texas is a far superior team than Oklahoma, but how do you figure? Texas has looked like absolute crap these past 2 games, while the Sooners have exceeded expectations. Just look at Sam Bradford's stats, and this guy is only a freshman. Tomcat, those are pretty impressive stats for a freshman who has only played 2 games. Now in my opinion about this upcoming RRS, I think Sooners offensive line will keep the Longhorn D-line in check. I also think McCoy, Sweed, Cosby, and the Texas offense will struggly against a strong Oklahoma defense. Texas will not be able to establish a running game against Oklahoma, so you will get to see McCoy throw a lot of interceptions. And I almost forgot, the Sooners offense will make a joke out of the Texas defense. Tomcat, I know you can't stand it, but I think Oklahoma has the better team. Deal with it. BOOMER SOONER!
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 9:18 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Ou FAN...Why do you try to talk facts with ut fans? Talking facts to some ut fans is like trying to get a drug addict to admit that he or she has an addiction! I gave Bobby, Bevo Boy, and Tomcat some credit before about giving some facts but now that texas has beaten TCU I knew the non sense talk would come out again. Bobby is probably the only one so far that hasn't talked so much junk. Before the season started Sam Bradford was not given a chance to play his first game before he was already being compared to Cult McCoy. Fact is that his first two freshman starts where excellent compared to Cult McCoy. The ut fans can't say much except the teams he played against were no good. Fact, Cult McCoy first start was against North Texas. North Texas is not a good team. Okay, were they a good team in 2006 against ut then? FACT, ut fans bragged that Miami DEFENSE was gone bring Sam Bradford back down to reality. In order for that to have happen Miami had to have a good team, correct? When it did not happen, Miami was not a good team. This David fellow argues that the polls don't mean anything cause of Michigan BUT that same poll put TCU at #19. So which is it? You cannot used the polls to say that a team is overrated then in the same sentence say that it is good to show that a team is good. Tomcat, I knew it would not take long for you return to your silly ranting. ut has beaten OU 18 more times, yeah they own 'em alright! OU biggest margin of victory is 52 points over ut and ut biggest margin of victory is 33 points, okay they own 'em. Most ut fans again have shown me that they are arrogant and the ranting that they should be ranked #3 are higher just proved that! The team played two good quarters of football and should be the team to beat now. ut fans you all should thank Notre Dame fans because if it was not for them you guys would have my vote for the most arrogant and rude fans!
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 9:25 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Nolen 1999...just for the record, state facts and your favorite team. ut fans think that there is a conspiracy to keep 'em down. They should be ranked #3 cause they played a solid half of football against TCU. I noticed they like to use history to discredit an OU win. Fact, TCU has not won in Austin since 1967. TCU has never played that great against texas even when they were in that joke of a conference called the Southwest. Hey does Kansas State own ut, Tomcat? Does Ohi State own 'em. How about Vanderbilt?
scott51 said:
posted on September 11, 2007 9:32 AM — 74.133.153.234 — link — abuse?
The reason S. Florida didn't make the top 25 this week?
Their performance against Elon to open the season (where, who is Elon?).They'll make it in within the next couple of weeks - and the Big East's resurgence will continue.
GO CARDS!EER10 said:
posted on September 11, 2007 9:34 AM — 129.71.238.252 — link — abuse?
Not really worried about my Mountaineers going to #4. I am more worried about getting pressure on the QB with that three man front in the sorry @$$ 3-3-5 stack ! Should have never got rid of Steve Dunlap in 2000 Rich. We love ya, but Dunlap alwyas had WVU's "D" as a top 5 defense under Nehlen. Sorry, I am done now, had to vent.
Tampa Hurricane
posted on September 11, 2007 9:36 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
Why should USF be a top 25 team? Look at their first two games, they beat Elon (DI-AA) by only 15 points, and needed overtime to beat a now unranked Auburn team. Are these two performances that scream of a top 25 team? NO!
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 10:03 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey Tomcat...I can't speak for Oklahoman or all Oklahoma fans. I don't like ut because their sports teams think that college sports cannot exist with ut. Some of the fans are arrogant such as yourself. Yeah ut is superior to OU. OU have 7 National Titles to ut 4. Yeah you right OU footall should be jealous. OU has more Conference Titles than ut and that includes ut's titles from that inferior conference called the Southwest. Yes, I said it the Southwest Conference was lame. Arkansas bailed on it. SMU and Houston basically are a superior high school still because texas could not stand getting beat by them so they told on 'em. Yeah you right. OU had a lot of distractions last year and still WAS THE BIG 12 CHAMPIONS. If ut was so GREAT why could they not beat Kansas State? Texas A&M? Can you say pop, ouch goes Cult McCoy! When he got P-OPPED did he call his grand-uncle Doctor McCoy? If texas is so much superior than OU why did ut have to go hire Darrell Royall a former OU player has coach? Could you say desparation after getting beat in the 50's by BUD WILKERSON? That is not owning a team Tomcat! OU still own the longest win streak in College football HISTORY, 47! What is ut longest? Sports annoucers outside of Norman are now taking notice of OU and ut fans can't stand it. When the college football world look at other Big 12 teams especially OU, man ut fans can't deal with the attention not directed on ut.
gatorstud said:
posted on September 11, 2007 10:16 AM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
this weeks game against tenn. should give us a good clue as to where the gators stand.....i can undestand their drop in the poll because of who they have played, and with oklahoma and w.v. winning, it was bound to happen.....but now we get into the "meat" of our schedule.....then it should get interesting....
o.k here goes this weeks games
kentucky over louisville
washington over ohio state
boston coll. over georgia tech
and heres the big one....nebraska @ home over usc...go gators...and hokies
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 10:24 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
I hope USC gets beaten by NU so all this preseason poll talk will go away. Florida will beat Tennessee cause they are playing at home! I hope Washigton beats Ohio State so Ty can say to Notre Dame fans, alumni, boosters, and coaching staff: "How ya like me now, chumps!".
Cane Mutiny
posted on September 11, 2007 10:28 AM — 65.12.247.141 — link — abuse? said:
Do the Texas fans really think that beating TCU is more impressive than beating Miami? I give credit where credit is due - Oklahoma killed the Canes, and that performance made me feel they deserved AT LEAST the number 3 spot. The Sooners made a very talented Miami defense look bad - that's way better than beating Texas Christian, no matter how hyped the TCU-over-Texas-upset-special was. Oklahoma looks championship caliber, I'd give them the #2 spot after LSU, and let USC prove to me that they're worthy of being in the top 2. Texas fans, if you can even come close to beating Oklahoma, then we'll see.
..It's great to be a Miami Hurricane..
Bobby said:
posted on September 11, 2007 10:50 AM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
Cock n Fire I gotta say I disagree with you on your Clemson post. You seem to have more of just a general dislike for Clemson than them actually being overrated. EVERY team or top team has not played completely up to par during one of their two games, except ou as far as I can tell. FSU was a good win, not as much pizzazz on offense but had one of the better defenses in college football. Towards the end of the game it started getting away from them but they stepped up and won. They have a good game with GT in Atlanta, that will probably tell college football fans if Clemson can be in the top 15. They have VT, WF, and BC @ home and a closer @ you Gamecocks. They have a quality schedule. They have good and great players at the skill positions, and a real solid defense. I argue that they could hang with anyone in the country. time will tell... I'm still not completely sold on SC.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 10:53 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Cane Mutiny...are you high? Are you stupid? How dare you talk bad about texas' victory over TCU. So what OU beat Miami. The last time ut played Miami you know that 46-3 beatdown in 1992 ut players had the flu, yeah that's it they had the flu and did not play up to par. Don't you know who we is? WE texas, man. We played the best second half of football than any of the Top 5 teams this year combine. We will play Miami any time as long it is not in the Orange Bowl because there are some shady people livin' round there. Just because our players are getting arrested and acting like thugs does not mean we want to be around thugs. Oh, I forgot Miami will be playing in Dolphin's Stadium next year. Well we can't put Miami on the schedule anyways cause we got a tough schedule already you know Florida Atlantic, the team Miami fought last year cause they were givin' them a game. UTEP, Rice, Arkansas, Central Florida, Mississippi, and UCLA. Man, let me see Miami play that schedule!
Sincerely,
William Mack Brown
P.S. Do you know why this silly Lennie Collins person call me "Whack" Brown?Bobby said:
posted on September 11, 2007 11:20 AM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
Lennie like i've said before lets not get too ahead of ourselves with Bradford. You made a comment that Bradford has better numbers than McCoy, while that is true I think it's worth looking at who they played. They both played UNT for openers both won, Bradford had the better numbers. Second game Bradford-Miami, little offense to speak of but real good defense, but Miami was unranked, but still quality win for ou and Bradford. McCoy second game #1 Ohio state had a great offense and good defense. Bradford got Miami at home McCoy had Ohio State in Columbus. I think that Bradford looks to be the real deal, IMO ou looks to be as complete as LSU and USC and so deserves it's #3 ranking. My comment was in response to post #22.
jc in SoCAL said:
posted on September 11, 2007 11:20 AM — 208.57.88.168 — link — abuse?
Does anyone else think there is a repeat of the 2003 season brewing? I have no problem with LSU taking the number one spot. I wish the polls were more fluid that allowed teams to move up and down based on a solid performance or a mediocre performance or having a bye week. The preseason poll shouldn't be everyone's starting point and if the people above you don't lose then you can't move up. Also, I think for any team its easier to motivate players that are chasing the number one spot rather than holding onto it. So go ahead and rank USC below LSU and OU. USC will need all the motivation they can handle to get through a PAC-10 that is looking more difficult every week. As long as USC in 1 or 2 on the final poll I am happy. This should be a really good season and may end up with a more compelling argument to add the plus one if USC, OU, LSU, and WVU go undefeated. Very unlikley but the table is setting up that way.
Bobby said:
posted on September 11, 2007 11:47 AM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
Cane Mutiny, alot of you Canes fans were talking alot of noise before the ou-Miami game about how good Miami was and how the Canes were up and coming. Now look at what your saying now that ou slapped ya'll around for three hours. Now your pissed because you see ou and UT fans are arguing over who was more quality and the best you can do now is side with ou because they kicked your ass and embarassed you in every way. I guess talking Miami football is off the table now? TCU had one of the best defenses in the country and the top ranked rushing defense. Of course UT fans are gonna view our win as a better quality win, and ou fans are gonna think theirs was more quality. All polls had Miami outside of 25 and then some. TCU had to be ranked for some reason. Coaches in college football have taken notice of TCU's defense for some reason ask Steve Spurrier. You pissed Miami lost ..I'd be pissed too. If Texas would have been the one to beat Miami and ou TCU would you be siding with Texas?
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 11:51 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Bobby...WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. That 24 - 7 lost was here in Austin. Ohio State were in the white jerseys and ut was in the burnt orange ones. Last I checked Ohio State wears Scarlet jerseys at home. I am 100% cool that Sam Bradford is going to have ta put up those numbers against ut to get ut fans to acknowlege. There will be an excuse: weather, injuries, bad call(s) I do not know. You yourself said Sam Bradford will not put up Cult McCoy numbers and you were right! They are so far B-E-T-T-E-R! I think ut needs to play another quarterback if they have the chance to beat OU! The next 3 games for OU will not mean anything as far as ut fans are concern! When the polls rank ut high or above OU they are GREAT but when they rank OU above ut they are whack. When the polls say Michigan is good they are whack BUT when the polls say TCU is good then they are gospel. Miami is not the team of the past BUT TCU sure is. They were ranked #1 LAST YEAR against the run. Not this YEAR. The past only means something to validate ut fan claims. Bobby I ain't gots anything against ya' but I am just confused with ut fans way of breakin' down things! I will give you, Bobby, a pat on the back. Out of all the ut fans on this blog, you are probably the coolest and less bias. I can call you a friend. Tomcat can be cool when he wants to. Bevo Boy he's al'ight! David???? Take care, man!
Bobby said:
posted on September 11, 2007 12:11 PM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
Lennie it's obvious that anything UT sends you into an absolute psychological meltdown. It's hard for people on these threads to take you serious because anywhere anyone mentions Texas and we can expect atleast three long tirades and a letter from Mack Brown to be posted. My ou/UT hate doesn't extend past the Red River Shootout. I don't have a general dislike or hatred for ou players, coaches or fans. David thank you for getting him going this morning.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 12:25 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Bobby call it what you want. Fact, ut fans on this blogs have stated that Miami is not the team from the past which is very true. Even you said that Miami was gone give OU a game. Did you, Bobby, say that because you felt Miami were a good team or you just "went along with da crowd"? Can the same be said about TCU which was great against the run LAST YEAR BUT NOT THIS YEAR? One ut fan stated that the polls had Michigan ranked #5 and Michigan showed that it did not deserve that. Could the same be said about TCU? If I do not get on my knee and praise ut or kiss their behinds then I do not know anything about college football or I sound foolish. I can't stand ut BUT I believe they should be ranked higher than Florida. Did you read where I said that or are you gone focus on my dislike more. DO NOT COMMENT on what I type. Go back to that BLOG about the fool that attacked that man and read some of your comments and other ut fans comments. As I said Bobby before I don't have anything against. But I will be doggone if you think I gone stand by has you play yourself off to be the "Dean Martin" here and me the "Jerry Lewis". Can't let it happen.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 12:31 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Oh and Bobby why is it when someone makes fun of OU IT IS FUNNY? (Check your comments in regards to longhorn posting that picture of the little boy crying before you comment). But if I make fun or anyone else make fun of ut they should not be taken seriously? Questions that wanna make ya say uuuuummmmmm!
Bobby said:
posted on September 11, 2007 12:43 PM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
Lennie my mistake Colt did have Ohio State at home. You appear IMO completely unable to handle opinions from UT fans. You have to be able to deal with others opinions. Even if you don't agree with them it's still their opinion. So far David is the only UT fan that has said UT should be above ou. And your description of ou fans goes way beyond obsurd. EVERY UT fan I've talked to says the same thing about UT as I do, and you know my opinion well because we've talked at length. I work @ UT and I've never heard any of the blind optimism that you claim ALL UT fans have. You get down right hostile when someone disagress with you or expresses an opinion you don't like. No one on the rivals fanblog goes off more on an oposing team than you on UT. Now i'm pissed because the last thing i wanted to do was talk ut/ou football.
CUTotalTiger said:
posted on September 11, 2007 12:54 PM — 68.59.7.45 — link — abuse?
POST 29 Eye of the Tiger
Beware, Cock and Mis-fire has stated that Spurrier, deliberately almost lost to Georgia, so he could hide his offense. They are going to hang 33 points on you. This is the same team that scored 28 on La. Lafayette. Apparently Cock and Misfire does not think much of teams from the state of Lousianna.
But you should know that, USC/Columbia will be playing next Sundady against the Bills. They are that good!Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 12:55 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Bobby I don't understand what you mean about hostile. I don't hate or dislike you. I definitely don't want ta fight ya. There is too much fighting in the world today, RIGHT NOW! Young against old, Male against Female, Majority against Minority, Rich against Poor, texas against Oklahoma! I guess you have your opinion about me and I have mine about you. But I still have not got the answers to my questions I asked. I guess I am not the only one having a mental meltdown today! I can take the opinions now I want to see answers.
CUTotalTiger said:
posted on September 11, 2007 1:00 PM — 68.59.7.45 — link — abuse?
Gator Stud post 39,
your upset picks....
I do not agree with the KY game. In a rivalry game you can not sneak up on someone. Plus the Cards defense will come to play this week.
I like Washington over Ohio State. Ty has done a good job out there and has the talent.
I am not sure BC over GT is an upset. I agree that the Eagles win. They may be the best team in the ACC.
Sorry, not sold on Nebraska, They played even with Wake, a decent team, and should have been able to handle them physcially. Apparently they could not do this.
Bobby said:
posted on September 11, 2007 1:03 PM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
Lennie, about the picture of the ou kid crying and me saying that's funny, your wrong i never posted that. That was Longhorn. I DID say Miami was gonna give ou a game because of their defense, I NEVER said that I thought Miami was better than TCU..NEVER. And if TCU doesn't have the best or even one of the best run defenses in the nation then Fox Sports Net goofed up because they brought it up several times. Noles fan sorry this happens often. UT did start off real sluggish but they rebounded nicely against TCU and I think we will continue to get better. Noles fan what do you think of Clemson? Cock n Fire seems to think they're a joke.
Nolen1999 said:
posted on September 11, 2007 1:09 PM — 207.203.238.6 — link — abuse?
Bobby: Clemson is a great team with a lot of talent and speed. They did great last year and ended terribly. Cock n Fire feels that way because of past experiences??? If Clemsons QB can kick it up a notch, they'll be a force.
Hate to admit it, FSU appears to be more of a joke than Clemson. I just hope that my Noles get on the right track and get better.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 1:13 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Nolen 1999 when you made the comment that ut started off sluggish. In ut fans eyes that is making fun. They gone attack you with Clemson remarks as long as you stay on this blog. You are now Public Enemy #1 in their eyes! Bobby man I am gone call a truce. I am an OU fan, you are an ut fan! OU is not gone get NO respect from other ut fans, I AM NOT SAYING YOU, even if they beat ut. I am almost sure ut fans will state at least we (ut) gots 17 mo'!
Bobby said:
posted on September 11, 2007 1:25 PM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
Lennie please tell me your talking about some other UT fan. I was not taking a jab at Nolen. Cock n fire post #7 made it sound like clemson was overrated. FSU and Clemson played a good game. I watched the entire game on ESPN. Both teams were good FSU nearly came back. I thought nolen would have a accurate opinion on clemson. Nolen I agree with your comment on Harper. I like FSU i'm a BB fan. I'm ready to see FSU mixing it up again. Lennie I give ou more respect more than I'd like to, but ou is good i'm not gonna make myself look dumb to play up UT when ou is obviously the better team. I will reserve my thoughts on the RRS until after the K-State game.
Nolen1999 said:
posted on September 11, 2007 1:31 PM — 207.203.238.6 — link — abuse?
Bobby n Lennie: Both UT and OU are great teams... what it boils down to is, I think OU looks better as a whole. Again, thats just my opinion.
My opinion on the Noles is... we have a lot of work to do! I'm a realist.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 1:32 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Bobby man I don't have no problem with you. You are alright with me has far as I am concern. You are right OU and ut really don't have a difficult game until they play each other. So you are right, all this talk doesn't mean JACK until they play each other! I know other ut fans are gone attack Nolen 1999 BUT Florida State did not give up. They actually had a chance to win that game. But it seems Nolen 1999 has a problem with me.
gatorstud said:
posted on September 11, 2007 1:33 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
CUTotalTiger...andre woodson has played well for kentucky....they have put up 50+ points in both games, i know that it was against a couple of creampuffs but it is still impressive.....loiusville better come to play....or that kentucky speed will get them.....
now for the nebraska game.....i'm kinda gettin the feeling that this is going to be a statement game for the huskers....#1 team coming to town.....i don't know what it is, call it a hunch if you will....but i see an upset coming......
oh , and i forgot one...arkansas over alabama.....
jmho...
go gators....and hokies
Nolen1999 said:
posted on September 11, 2007 1:36 PM — 207.203.238.6 — link — abuse?
Lennie: dunno who you're talking about. Why are other UT fans going to attack me? For saying they started off sluggish??? It's the truth. Hell, my Noles have been sluggish all season, but you don't see me sayin, FSU fans "gone attack you" for talking about our inept offense. People have some growing up to do.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 1:42 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Since I joined this blog I guess it is a SIN to talk bad about ut or the SEC Conference. Hey your opinion is your opinion despite what someone thinks of me I could careless what someone opinion(s) is(are). I have no problem with one here but what do you mean I have diarrhea of the mouth?
Shtr Mkgvn said:
posted on September 11, 2007 1:58 PM — 206.15.203.10 — link — abuse?
Wisc is going to win it all...they play 2 games all year - ohio state and penn st. Should be a walk in the park. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Cheeseheads win!
Bobby said:
posted on September 11, 2007 2:02 PM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
I think nolen was referring to one of my posts where I talked about your long posts Lennie. I'm not gonna touch the Limas Sweed/Malcolm Kelly talk. Opinion and reasons verses opinion and reasons. Sweed is a very good receiver as well. Alot of draft sites have him going between 10 and 20.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 2:04 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey it would great to see Wisconsin play for the National Title. They love them some footabll up there. Packers and Badgers. But I am not sold on the fact they can beat Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan in the same season. They look like the team in da Big 11 to beat.
Bobby said:
posted on September 11, 2007 2:49 PM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
Lennie I think the games I'm gonna pay the most attention to are USC/Nebraska and Florida/Tennessee. I want to see if florida is for real. I think Kellers play could hurt the Huskers, ther are gonna have to be razor sharp to get past USC.
gatorstud said:
posted on September 11, 2007 3:02 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
bobby, the florida/tennessee game should be a good game...most people expect florida to win this one big, but i just don't know.....we had a couple of injuries at key positions.....and our speedster harvin is still hobbling from tendanitis....so i expect it to be a closer game than people expect....florida by 14.....
mark it down people......nebraska game will be close going into the fourth quarter....and nebraska wins.....sorry trojan fans....but you heard it here.....
go gators....and hokies
Shtr Mkgvn said:
posted on September 11, 2007 3:14 PM — 206.15.203.10 — link — abuse?
Anyone see the Rutgers game? Saw this article about the fans laying into the Navy squad. Poor timing in front of Sept 11th.. going to get some bad press. I'm all for getting into the opponents head.. but i'm not so sure they used the best judgement.
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1189484859197200.xml&coll=1
By the way.. how about the first half schedule for Washington. Boise St, Ohio St, UCLA, USC... still have Oregon, Cal and Hawaii in the second half.. Would be the all time homerun to run the table.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on September 11, 2007 3:25 PM — 71.103.225.30 — link — abuse?
I'll go with LSU being #1 right now. My final power rankings last year had: 1. LSU 2. Louisville 3. Florida 4. USC and 5. Ohio State. Now, these rankings are only used to bet against the spread, as I have explained for a couple of years now. It means that LSU was probably the most powerful team last year. It does not mean that Florida did not win the National Championship - as they did! It means that LSU played consistantly better than any other team - week in and week out. It means that they were the best bet to play well on any given Saturday.
So, I have no problem with LSU holding #1 right now. It's a stupid argument to ask: who has USC beaten so far? Heck, they have only met Idaho. I don't consider that Virginia Tech is all that either. When have they ever been - really? No, fact is, LSU started out just as strong last year and managed to lose two games somehow. They do look like #1 right now.
I can't bring myself to put Oklahoma over USC right now though. Anybody remember 2004? Oklahoma has not improved enough, especially with a freshman QB, to ever beat the Trojans. I had Miami ranked #54 last year. What made them all of a sudden become good? They're not. It's not surprising that Oklahoma pasted Miami. Miami is not a great football team. I'm not so sure that they are even good. We'll see.
I'm afraid we're lookin' at a scenario similar to
2003, when Oklahoma met LSU, and USC was left out.
This time, if all three go unbeaten, the LSU and USC should face off. Oklahoma has been beaten handily the last two time they played for all the marbles - by LSU and USC respectfully. So, LSU and USC should be #1 and #2 for now. Now, if Florida (defending National Champs) can beat LSU - then they should ascend back up to the top. Either way - I'd like to see the SEC Champs play USC (should the Trojan's win out).My current Top Five:
1. LSU
2. USC
3. Oklahoma
4. Florida
5. Ohio State (great defense)So, that's it. As a Trojan fan, I'm not gonna stomp my feet, and make claims that the Trojan's should be #1. Just because they look good on paper
does not make them the best team. These games are still played on the field. There is no question that the SEC will be the strongest conference this
year. So, I have no problem with their best team claiming #1.My conference ratings:
1. SEC
2. Pac 10
3. Big East
4. Big 12
5. Big 10
6. ACCBig East has some big wins so far. Problem is and has been: Top teams don't have enough defense to win against the other great teams. So, I have downgraded them somewhat, because of that poorer defense.
Tommie T
gatorstud said:
posted on September 11, 2007 3:39 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
t-trojan...tha is a pretty good assesment and i like your top five except for ohio state....i would have wisconsin or w. virg. there.....
i will have to say that i am impressed with the pac-10 and its early victories.....i will be honest and say that i really thought that michigan would show up and actually play oregon.....and i had boise state over washington.....i have been doggin the pac-ten for being soft over the years but, i gotta say..so far..impressive....go ty go.......
and that goes for the big east also....big wins, but how long can they keep it going....
so, double t. give me your analysis on the trojans game against nebraska.....are you worried at all.....or do you think this will be a trojan walkover....sorry to say that i have already picked nebraska for the upset....i went with the gut feeling on this one....
go gators...and hokies
Bobby said:
posted on September 11, 2007 3:46 PM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
Tommy T #86 good post. What do you think about the USC/Neb. game? Gatorstud I know injuries are just the way it goes but sometimes injuries to key players really can impact a game or team. We have two players out that have to be ready when we face OU. Tommy why doesn't the NFL scouts give Booty any love. Alot os sites have him in the second round. I just realized I used give, booty, and love in the same sentence.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 4:04 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Thank you , Bobby. I am shocked at ol' Tommy Trojan's comments about OU & UM. Idaho is no were in Miamis range and USC was favorited by 45 points. I believe USC won by 28. Tommie Trojan usually don't clown but I guess there is a first time for anything!
Mr.McAteer said:
posted on September 11, 2007 4:20 PM — 71.206.247.138 — link — abuse?
post 87
those wins are gonna keep coming all season long and into the bowl games baby, starting with WVUs annahilation of those terrible turtles this Thursday on ESPN
make sure to tune in if u want to see the true definition of playmakers
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on September 11, 2007 4:33 PM — 71.103.225.30 — link — abuse?
Well Boyz!
The Trojans are currently a -10 pick to win the game. I think I'd give the Trojans maybe a -3 point edge in this one. But, I have seen USC beat down many a good team. In the Idaho game - they played darn near the whole roster after halftime. Against Neb - it's probably gonna be a different story. Nebraska will not be able to run the ball. That's over. They are gonna have to heave it. Keller might get it done - but I think he'll be on his back while the Trojans are pickin' off his balls. I can't see Nebraska moving the ball at all. Yet, I'm not so thrilled with the young runners and receivers on USC either.
USC has had two weeks to prepare for this one - and we all know what happens when Carroll has time. Also, with the ineptness of Notre Dame, this will be the Trojans only non-con game to impress voters with. I think the Trojans might blow this team out. But, as usual, it's always good to take the home underdog. I'd take Nebraska and the ten points.Lenny:
The Sooners look great so far. The schedule is really easy with Texas at home. Oklahoma could very well go unbeaten. Keep in mind that the schedule really is easy. This will hurt Oklahoma in the final BCS standings. Unless USC and LSU lose - Oklahoma will not be playing in the "Big Dance". That's just the way it goes. They get all the harder games at home. Never fear - USC plays the #2 toughest schedule in the country. They'll probably lose one. All Oklahoma has to do is win them all and you'll probably get a chance to get pounded by either LSU or Florida.
Tommie T
gatorhippy
posted on September 11, 2007 4:39 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
"All Oklahoma has to do is win them all and you'll probably get a chance to get pounded by either LSU or Florida."
Probably just LSU...
If UF can win in BR, i wouldn't expect them to pull it off twice...
But stranger things have happened...
See 2006...
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on September 11, 2007 4:41 PM — 71.103.225.30 — link — abuse?
Bobby:
John David Booty will probably be picked as the 2nd
QB in the draft - similar to what Brady Quinn was. Brian Brouhm of Louisville, at 6'5, is the top prospect. Should Booty light it up (I doubt it cause the receivers are so young), and win the Hypesman, then he could be the top QB picked. But, he's only 6'3 and thin. He does not have the weight that the pros like either. He has a great arm and is accurate. But, he gets a little hurried on occasion and has made some poor choices. Yet, he does not take sacks and did not throw many Int's. So, his stock could rise. I'd say that height and weight are his biggest drawbacks at the pro level. He does have a tendancy to have balls batted away at the LOS.Tommie T
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 4:43 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey Tommie Trojan...My name is Lennie. Oklahoma does not play ut at home, da game has been played at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas since 1929! LSU and UF might have 1 loss each. USC gone lose to one or all the following team(s): Nebraska, Oregon, California, and maybe Notre Dame? I guess I am yo' enemy or a fool now since I don't think USC is all that and a lot mo'!
cock'n'fire south carolina 101 said:
posted on September 11, 2007 4:46 PM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
ok post 29 eye of the tiger
i never said steve spurrier wasnt trying to score...all i was trying to say was that he wasnt gonna put on film a game against georgia thats showing exactly how our team is going to play this year...tyrone nix was doing all the work with our defense notice we played more of a defensive game against georgia
and post 42 bobby
your right it does have to do with a dislike of clemson but not all of it is...florida state hadnt proved themselves to be the #19 team when they played clemson yet georgia had proved themselves to be #11 after pummeling oklahoma state...and compared to south carolina, clemson has a cupcake schedule...they have 2 maybe 3 tough games which are definately GT and south carolina and then maybe boston college but thats at home...however south carolina played georgia IN ATHENS, and they will play LSU in baton rouge, and also play tennessee arkansas on the road and then play the defending national champions at home so yeah clemson has a cupcake schedule compared to us
and post 54 mr total tiger
you got it all wrong there we dont play the bills on sunday...we play the south carolina state bulldogs on SATURDAY...also thats not exactly what i said...what im saying is spurrier played a simple offense that he doesnt usually play, he usually plays alot more hardcore than that and against georgia we were getting it all done on defense so it didnt matter...spurrier hasnt tried running up the score on any team since hes been at south carolina...he doesnt have his 1st string offense on the feild and throw a hail mary to the end zone with a 30 point lead...mid tenn state was probly our highest scoring win last year and spurrier was playing everybody 2nd string 3rd string...all he wanted was a few scores and then he was ok...if we ran up the score on wofford last year we wouldnt have almost lost to them...maybe after the 22nd youll start to understand wut im saying
OU Fan said:
posted on September 11, 2007 4:52 PM — 84.146.56.186 — link — abuse?
Tommie Trojan post #86, Oklahoma losing back to back national championship games should have nothing to do with todays rankings or in determining who SHOULD get left out of the national championship game. If Oklahoma finishes this season at #2 and USC finishes at #3, then #2 Oklahoma should go to the big game, not #3 USC. Tommie Trojan, I don't care if Oklahoma lost back to back national championship games in 2004 and 2005. If the Sooners finish at #2 and the Trojans finish at #3, then #2 goes before #3. There should be exceptions, and past season games should definately not be a factor in determining if #3 should go instead of #2. And Tommie Trojan, during the 2003/2004 football season, USC and LSU both had one loss, while the Sooners went to the Big 12 championship undefeated. Then K-State delivered a brutal ass wooping and the Sooners earned their 1st loss of the season. I understand that Oklahoma got wooped by K-State, but it was Oklahoma's first season loss and the Sooners were much higher than the Tigers and Trojans were in the BCS Standings. So honestly, how do you determine who should go to the national championship game in that scenario? Should the 2 teams with one loss each surpass the team that finally received their first loss at the end of the season? And like I stated earlier, Oklahoma had such a high BCS ranking due to their regular season performance. Now for my opinion of the 2004/2005 season, thats where I think having the top 4 BCS teams in a playoff would have been great. On one hand, their is an undefeated Auburn team who went through the SEC undefeated and worked their way up the polls. But on the other hand, their is an Oklahoma team who started the season I believe to be at #2. Also, that #2 Oklahoma team respectfully maintained their ranking throughout the season. To me, the #2 Oklahoma team deserved to be in the national championship game, despite the outcome. Also in my opinion, in that case Auburn should have been able to split the national championship with the Trojans because after all, the NCAA's favorite team was able to share the national championship with LSU. I hope this makes sense. BOOMER SOONER!
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on September 11, 2007 4:53 PM — 68.107.108.135 — link — abuse?
Tommie T,
I like your picks for the top five with the exception of FLA. I'd move them ahead of OU right now for the same reasons you mentioned why they wouldn't be a good match for the NC. Truthfully, I'm not that impressed with the win over a rebuilding Miami. One major difference I think you will find interesting is I actually think the PAC-10 is the best conference thus far. Here's how I stack up the conferences:
1. Pac-10
2. SEC
3. ACC
4. Big East
5. Big 12So far the only teams that have showed dominance in the SEC is LSU and FLA. However, in the PAC USC, Oregon, CAL, Washington, UCLA, Arizona St. have all shown dominance. It's still early, but this is how I see it for now.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on September 11, 2007 4:54 PM — 71.103.225.30 — link — abuse?
OK Lennie:
We can be enemies if you say so. If you were gonna be my enemy though - I just wish you would understand something about college football. I'll bet you that USC does not lose four games this year. Does a $1,000 sound okay? I'll give you a chance to get you money back or parlay it into more. I'll bet you that Oklahoma does not win the National Championship. Does a thousand sound okay to you? There you have a chance to pick up two grand. Does that sound okay for you? If you win either one of these - don't forget to rub it in on me at the end of the year. Somehow though, like all others, I doubt if we'll be hearing much of you after the Bowl season is over.
Tommie T
posted on September 11, 2007 4:59 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta said:
Tommie T.: I'll hold the money for you guys! However, I won't hold my breath--waiting for his, that is.
Lennie's one of those comic relief guys who blow through here every so often and types all these messages without ever really saying anything. Then the power company shuts off the juice for non-payment and he just can't handle having to go to the library to post anymore...
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 11, 2007 5:04 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey Tommie Trojan...I'll give your my address and you type up the bet and it's a deal. USC is not gone to lose ta Notre Dame or they should not but I will say it here that USC will have 2 LOSSES this year. Nebraska, Oregon, California, or Arizona State to be serious now.
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on September 11, 2007 5:06 PM — 71.103.225.30 — link — abuse?
OU Fan:
Relax man! It's early yet. My opinion means exactly nothing in this universe. I'm only saying how I would vote (but I don't have one) if I did have a vote. Luckily, I don't have a vote. Your also lucky that I am not the President of the United States of America either. Things would really get different in a hurry. That would scare everyone.
Oklahoma is a fine team and I have them #3 for right now. I stated that: 1. Oklahoma has a redshirt freshman QB 2. Lost Adrian Peterson 3. Lost to Boise State just last year. 4. Lost to LSU and USC prior to that. So, my humble opinion says that Oklahoma has not become the best team in the land in the last couple of years. I do like the QB Bradford and the freshman runner Murray. We Trojans recruited Murray, and lost out, so we know how good he really is. No, Oklahoma is definately back on the rise - but not ready for "Prime Time" just yet. That is only my opinion. Youz guyz gotz to see if I'm wrong first - before youz startz to cry too much.Tommie T
"THE"BUCKEYE MARK said:
posted on September 11, 2007 6:04 PM — 70.62.161.114 — link — abuse?
Tommie T
Why do you have Ohio St #5 I'd say they are more like 12-15th they haven't played a good enouph team to know how good that defense is but the stats are good.Ohio St's defense will have to score this week to get a convincing win over an underated team
Clemson Fan said:
posted on September 11, 2007 6:04 PM — 65.183.99.20 — link — abuse?
Well there you have it everyone, Please read post #97 and you will see the mystery that is Gamecock football! According to their number one fan..... Spurrier is a defensive coach that would not run the score up on anyone. Have mercy on Florida, LSU and Tennessee!
QUOTE " Nix was doing all the work with our defense."
QUOTE " FSU hadn't proved themselves to be #19." This coming from a South Carolina fan.
QUOTE " What I am saying is that Spurrier played a simple offense that he usually doesn't play." I am so glad Spurrier decided not to take advantage of a poor Georgia team that had a chance to win in the end. The master plot is begining to make sense.
QUOTE " Spurrier hasn't tried running up the score on any team since he has been at South Carolina." That may be, but it is more of a reflection of the fact that he can not run up the score on any team. South Carolina is horrible.
QUOTE " maybe after the 22nd you will understand."
LSU better start coming up with reasons South Carolina is going to embarrass them. I believe Cock and Fire said a 33-17 win for South Carolina.Well we have learned from Cock and Fire that
1) Spurrier will not run the score up on anyone
2) Spurrier is a defensive coach
3) LSU will not win the game against South Carolina this year.
4) Spurrier allowed Georgia to hang around last Saturday as part of his master plan
5) The reason Spurrier does not run the score up on people is because they come back on him like Wofford did in 2006."THE"BUCKEYE MARK said:
posted on September 11, 2007 6:05 PM — 70.62.161.114 — link — abuse?
Tommie T
Why do you have Ohio St #5 I'd say they are more like 12-15th they haven't played a good enouph team to know how good that defense is but the stats are good.Ohio St's defense will have to score this week to get a convincing win over an underated team
posted on September 11, 2007 8:48 PM — 70.180.45.10 — link — abuse?
Much respect to Tommie Trojan for his ranking of LSU & the SEC...and to everyone who thinks LSU is #1...
I just heard Herbstreit basically defend his ranking of SoCal as Numero Uno based on the fact that he ranked them there in the pre-season...
Because the preseason rankings mean so much (Just ask Michigan, South Florida, Auburn, and Applachian State), right Kirk?
I honestly think that we can blow the doors off of any team in the nation...I was in Death Valley, so I didn't get a chance to hear Bret Muffgurgler and Kirkie-babee Saturday night, but we saw live and direct what the rest of the nation did...
This defense is fierce, the offense hasn't skipped a beat, and if anything, has added versatility and multiplicity, if you will, by adding Crowton as our OC...Our coaching staff is quite simply amazing...
From the aforementioned Crowton to the soon-to-be-a-head-coach-near-you in DC Bo Pelini, to guys like RB Coach Larry Porter, who had us scratching our heads wondering why Jacob Hester was starting over Keiland Williams, until we realized that all three of our backs will be nice and fresh come SEC Stretch Run...
You also can't forget about the new OL Coach, former Bowling Green OC Studrawa...The guy coaches from the booth, and the past few years, you wouldn't have dreamed of 150 yards rushing against Moo U, VT, and MTSU combined until at least the 4th or 5th game of the year, because of our former OL Coach Stacy Searles mix-and-match chemistry approach to gelling the OL. Coach "Stud" is making line calls from the booth upstairs, and is a defacto offensive coordinator...
Perhaps no other offense in America can boast that sort've talent on the sidelines, between Miles, Crowton, and Stud...
With our offensive line playing this well this early, and the bevy of fresh backs we have, and with Pelini getting this defense to play better than-dare I even mention his name-Saban's heyday of '03-'04...We're coming, Trojans...
Get ready...
hrposon said:
posted on September 11, 2007 9:00 PM — 98.200.123.115 — link — abuse?
Just a thought about Week 2 polls...
If Notre Dame or Michigan played the teams that Ohio State played in the first 2 weeks of the season, the Youngstown State Peguins and the Akron Zips, and OSU played either UM or ND's schedule, who would have the best record after week 2?
Who would the pollsters have ranked higher?
Try it substituting Texas A&M for tOSU
GA Boy said:
posted on September 11, 2007 9:01 PM — 97.89.29.93 — link — abuse?
Cocky Misfire
Your whacked out analasis of the game this past Saturday is only making the DAWGS look worse. I really wish you would stop with the ridiculous statements about Spurrier letting us hang around in this game as an attempt to save some of his secrets for LSU. Spurrier better have some secret weapons or LSU is going to smash you.
As for the Dawg-Cocks game, here is really why it was so close:
1. The game is a great rivalry that is always close (even last year's 18-0 game was not as bad as the score indicated.)
2. You guys played a good game defensively. Yes, you had some great play out of your defensive backs and the Brinkley boys. You tightened up when you had to and kept us out of the endzone. (This is more of a reflection on the DAWGS O than your D though. It is a symptom of why Richt has not moved into the upper echelon of coaches. We have serious issues in the red zone and on 3rd down conversions. Field goals don't cut it, prime example Kentucky and Vandy loss last year. I put this win by the Cocks in that same category.)
3. Contrary to your perception of it, we did have some poorly thrown passes from Stafford who just was not sharp on Saturday, and we had some mediorcre play from our 2nd and 3rd receivers. You covered Massiqua and Bailey very well in man to man and we did not get the play from Moore and Henderson at receiver to make up for it.
4. The youth of our defense got us. We played well defensively keeping you out of the endzone, but we could not stop Boyd when we had to. Blake Mitchell, from my hometown of LaGrange GA, made key check off's at the line of scrimmage that took advantage of our young defense. He made the right calls and executed to keep the ball moving and control the tempo of the game.That's the way I saw it. You won and the pros for your team outweigh the cons for ours. You made some plays and we didn't. Overall a good win for your program, but not one that signals all hail the new SEC powerhouse, South Carolina Gamecocks. That is just knuts man!
Newsflash, LSU's defense is not young. LSU's defense does not allow the run. LSU's defense wreaks havoc on the QB after they totally shut down your running game. Going to be a long night for you.
I am impressed with your support for your team. I am a little disturbed by your sense of reality though. You guys have about as much chance of winning the SEC championship as let's say Michigan winning the Big 10. What you have left (my thoughts on your chances)--LSU (no chance), Tennessee (maybe), Kentucky (maybe), Arkansas (maybe), Florida (late in the season with 3 losses to LSU, TN, and GA. They will beat you just so they won't have 4 SEC losses.) You will have 3 SEC losses at the end of the year. Good game on Saturday though!!
Bobby said:
posted on September 11, 2007 9:11 PM — 70.112.114.73 — link — abuse?
Tommy T. like your posts,although your bid for presidency makes me nervous. I think ou is the real deal. I will be fully convinced once ou gets in a dog fight with a team and not necessarily a top program just a game were they really got to play and go through a little adversity to win. Play from behind. Cock n Fire like I've said before I like your passion, but you leave yourself out on a wire talking SC up so much. No one on here is gonna believe Spurrier was holding back. I think the problem is that it's been a long time since SC had a legitimate team on the field. You see it every year a team starts winning rises in the polls loses a game or two then you don't see them for a season or two. Hold all your enthusiasm until SC is 6-0 or 7-0. I find it easier to be reserved let my team win then stick my chest out. If you talk too much and lose there's alot of crow to eat.
CUTotalTiger said:
posted on September 11, 2007 9:50 PM — 68.59.7.45 — link — abuse?
Tiger Educated, you have no chance against South Carolina. Please read Cock and Misfire's post number 97. Hopefully you will understand that Spurrier has been holding back and will unleash his fury against LSU. You had a good run at it though. Good luck next year. But after the Shamecocks win against Georgia you do not stand a chance.
Bobby said:
posted on September 11, 2007 10:16 PM — 70.112.114.73 — link — abuse?
CnF, I believe it was Roosevelt who said "speak softly but carry a big stick", and I think this can apply to your situation. No doubt we all can appreciate your enthusiasm for your team, but your getting a little ahead of yourself. Let your team do the talking meanwhile you sit back and smile. If SC is really that good then they will prove it. Otherwise these guys are gonna continue to roast ya.
shiguy said:
posted on September 11, 2007 10:24 PM — 71.61.239.60 — link — abuse?
i would just like to give a WOOT out to south florida for beating auburn and prooving that just because WVU or louisville looses to them should not be a measure of how bad that team is bur rather how good south florida is getting. keep up the good work... but not when WVU comes to town....
jessi said:
posted on September 11, 2007 11:02 PM — 74.211.45.175 — link — abuse?
Well Tennessee has the same problem as Michigan. Outdated coaching schemes againing a progressed college football world. It doesnt matter if you have all the talent in the world, if the other team know you tendencies they will stop it. I dont think I even wanna watch the TN-FLA game. Fat Phil has actually done a good job, but they need to let him go. There is no excuse in mediocrity when you have so much talent. The only problem at Tennessee is they have that good ole boy syndrome. It is gonna take an outsider with fresh ideas for this team to be a top 5 team again.
jessi said:
posted on September 11, 2007 11:03 PM — 74.211.45.175 — link — abuse?
Well Tennessee has the same problem as Michigan. Outdated coaching schemes againing a progressed college football world. It doesnt matter if you have all the talent in the world, if the other team know you tendencies they will stop it. I dont think I even wanna watch the TN-FLA game. Fat Phil has actually done a good job, but they need to let him go. There is no excuse in mediocrity when you have so much talent. The only problem at Tennessee is they have that good ole boy syndrome. It is gonna take an outsider with fresh ideas for this team to be a top 5 team again.
CommonManCommonSense said:
posted on September 11, 2007 11:23 PM — 68.104.42.4 — link — abuse?
Tommie Trojan and the rest of Troy:
I ventured out to the Rose Bowl last weekend and took in the BYU-UCLA game. Things are looking good for USC. Don't buy the propoganda spread by the Bruin nation. The better team went home with a loss. UCLA looked terrible. Without some help from the PAC-10 Zebra's (remember Oregon and Oklahoma and the beat goes on) BYU wins that game.
BYU outgained UCLA 2 to 1 with nearly 200 more yards of total offense. Without two "fumbles" deep in UCLA territory the game wouldn't have been close - watching a replay of the game confirms neither play was a BYU fumble - thank heavens we require teams to use our referees. A touchdown in the final seconds made it look better, but UCLA is not a good team - or BYU is pretty good - maybe a little of both.
Looks like Oregon might be the only contender in the PAC-10.
cock'n'fire south carolina 101 said:
posted on September 11, 2007 11:37 PM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
post 110 clemson fan
ur turning things i said all around into weird things that i never said or meant in what i said
spurrier didnt let wofford come back on purpose he just didnt run up the score
ALSO spurrier calls the plays on offense so he is not a defensive coach...tyrone nix takes care of that what i meant to say is we got the job done by executing on defense so we didnt really need to run up the score that bad
and about us beating LSU im not saying 100% sure that we will beat them but if we play good then it will happen and spurrier is starting to get better with discipline because our players arent smoking pot anymore so im seeing it happen
also it is possible for the gamecocks to win...yall probly thought the gators were gonna chomp us to peices last year and look at that game 17-16 we lost but we shoulda won that but the gay special teams held us back and florida went to win the nc as you all saw
and also yall may think that south carolina sucks and doesnt have the abil;ity to win against all the great teams however if u noticed every team we lost to was in the top 15 when we played them and all but georgia was within a touchdown so i dont see why yall think south carolina cant do anything
post 116 GA (bo)Y
i didnt just start thinking south carolina is becoming one of the powerhouses...ive thought that ever since we beat tennessee, florida and arkansas in 2005...we may loose a good bit of games but they arent blowouts and they are against high ranked opponents since 2005...except for mizzou and clemson in 2005 that was a fluke
however cory boyd and mike davis are very good backs and it wasnt the defenses fault for letting them run through...and ur gonna see alot more of chris culliver later in the season...and mathew stafford didnt play bad...our defensive backs played good...look at all the pass breakups there were and especially captain munnerlyn look at him...he was insanely dominant...just like i was saying before the season started he may be a 2 star recruit but he showed up at practice like a 5 star recruit
also i highly doubt we will have that many losses in the sec at most we would get 2 probly but that will all depend on how the LSU game turns out
post 118 mr total tiger
i can see ur starting to understand what im saying but im not 100% sure on what hes doing yet
and if u were being sarcastic then all i have to say is wtf...you know im not good with sarcasm
and post 119 bobby
i dont care what theodore roosevelt said, i cant remember if he was that dood that freed the slaves or the dood that was the youngest president i wasnt always too bright in history class so i dont care, but i can predict all i want its a free country...unless kev stops allowing predictions i will keep making them...its not the end of the world if they are wrong but i am very confident and i look forward to the game, and if we get blown out by LSU like all of yall are saying we will i will make a huge apology to everyone in this blog but i doubt that we will get blown out
so as you all know i predict a 31-17 victory at LSU and if im wrong then im wrong but i hope what i see thats happening is true
GO GAMECOCKS!(2-0) and GO CHARGERS!(1-0)
soonerfanatic28 said:
posted on September 11, 2007 11:50 PM — 64.136.49.227 — link — abuse?
Sorry to all the OU fans especially Leannie that I have not been in this while you were working your but off trying to convince these shorthorn and stupid trojan fans OU is the real deal! I'm sorry texas fans (defending BIG XII champs). Lets get the facts straight Texas 21-13 over arkansas state? OU 79-10 OVER NT whats more impressive? Sam Bradford 40-48 8 TD's 0 pics baby! OU 51-13 Over Miami um...say what you want Miami isn't a good team or whatever but the truth is we just kicked the crap outta them. USC beat Idaho yay! In my opinion LSU #1,but unfortunately my opinion don't matter.YOU'RE right Tommy T SC will lose at least 1 game maybe more,but I swear you guys should'nt complain about your schedule when you guys are supposively UNBEATABLE...? Oregon State...?...UCLA...? Tommy T I'm still confused about why you keep bringing up the past 04&05 no one cares!! Only next Saturday matters baby! BLIND Eye of THE Tiger: Florida above OU...? No way! Florida lost too much of their defense.
Tommy Trojan #106 Yeah we lost AD ...and? Last I heard we have Demarco Murray 5 TD's against NT Allen Patrick led us to a Big XII championship last year,Chris Brown also a major part of our running game last year.Also that red-shirt freshman at QB isn't too bad is he?
HEY TEXASS fans you guys think you will win the BIG XII get this KIRK HERBSTREET,LOU HOLTZ, LEE CORSO,and some other analyst picked OU to win the BIG XII get that,not that Kirk Herbstreet,Lee Corso,or Lou Holtz would know what their talking about as TEXAS fans would say.
AND to COCK'N MISFIRE dude give it up sc has no chance at winning the SEC much less a National Championship. Just be happy you're ranked this week cause give it about 3 weeks you guys wont even be on the radar.
P.S texass shorthorns even if you do beat OU (which you wont) you guys will blow it out your asses to someone like ATM and OU will have yet another BIG XII champioship. AS far as owning OU LOL? RIGHTTomcat said:
posted on September 12, 2007 12:13 AM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
OU Fan I was haven fun with my posts #23 & #28.
I wont argue over who's the best, thats a blog topic for the ages.Looking foward to the Red River shootout. So far this season I'm 3-0 on side bets and if I lose on the A&M vs Miami, I'll still be ahead money wise.I would like to see coach Fran grow a pair for heavens sake.Last weeks game for example, twice they where 4th and short and went for feild goals missing one.Why when you've been moving the ball on the ground all day, you have a 270 lb man that can make it on 4th and 1 would you go for 3? Sorry, but thats the same kinda thing that cost them last year against OU, TTech and Neb. A&M usually doesnt travel well and Miami is a hostile enviroment.
UM could possibly win, anything can happen.
My bet is on A&M with the same guy that took TCU last week.I dont beleive that they can stop A&M's running attack. If A&M loses it would be due to coaching mistakes and clock management.
Hookem-Horns
God Bless our Troops
Welcome back Tommie T
congrats Miss St Bulldogscock'n'fire south carolina 101 said:
posted on September 12, 2007 12:16 AM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
post 125 sooner fantasy
yep just keep dreaming that south carolina will be off the radar but they will always be there...and until oklahoma plays the gamecocks for the first time yall wont know what its like to loose to a worthy opponent...and lee corso is full of crap u shoulda seen the video they played for the sellout crowd at williams brice stadium in the season opener...they showed lee corso saying in gameday that south carolina with never win a national championship much less the sec and within the next second you were deafened with boo's and then they showed a bunch of clips of some of our great wins where we proved lee corso wrong...they showed jad deans wide left kick...the showed the game winning play against florida but i forgot which one it was...they showed the game winning feild goal kicked by josh brown at tennessee and alot of other good stuff...spurrier has got it in the bag this yeer
Tomcat said:
posted on September 12, 2007 12:52 AM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
#125 Hey do I even care what Corso & company say.
Check this out, every year they pull out their calenders and circle a couple, and every year including 05 & 06 they predict OU over UT.
The fact remains that every game is important and that teams like Oregon or TCU can beat a team like OU same can be said for K-State or A&M over Texas. The game is played on the feild and yall aint beat Texas since 04.I'm glad yall whuped up on N Tex & UM, that makes it better when Texas beats yall.
I saw coach Rodriguez{ W Virg} press conference and he said it best, that CFB is so highly competitive and that everybody's doing everything that they can. Analysing every detail of every play from every game.That the competition is such that just about anybody can win on a given day.
For Example in 06
USC whups Ark, Neb, ND, Mich
Loses to UCLA & Org St
UT beats OU, Neb,Tech,Ok st
Loses to OSU, K State & A&M
OU beats A&M, Neb,Ok st
Loses to UO, UT & Bois
Pedictions dont really mean much, just about anything can happen. Red River Shootout ought to be a great game. If OU's favored so what they always are, kinda like the Feista bowl.
Hookem-Horns
geauxtigers0107 said:
posted on September 12, 2007 3:11 AM — 65.6.103.157 — link — abuse?
This "Cock (appropriately named)-n-misfire" cat reminds me of Hogfan1 (Arkansas fan) last year. Blowing his horn like crazy after a few wins. Only to be slapped around when they played LSU (in Fayetteville, no less). At least he had reason to blow his horn though. Arkansas only had one loss (their first game of the season...I think against the Trojans) then won their next 8 games. Now with two incredible wins, the Gamecocks are ready for the world huh? ROFLMMFAO!!! (somebody translate that for him) I think I shot Bud Lite out my nose and cried because I laughed so hard at his score prediction...31-17. In the Georgia game, Stafford clearly overthrew his recievers on AT LEAST 3 touchdown passes where the reciever was open by 4 yards or more...WFO. I don't discredit the win but at the same time, you got away with one. You know it, I know it, and Spurrier knows it. LOL..another thing...Spurrier held back on Georgia??? Uhhhhh.....ok. Lets see: going into Georgia, they're ranked, we're not, they kicked our azzes last year 18-0....F-it, let's hold back on offense and see if we can still win. What a plan!! I'm starting to think C-n-Crier is related to Lennie.
@TommieT...well said, yet again. I was impressed with Oklahoma against Miami but I didn't put too much into Miami with Shannon at the helms...not yet at least. I do like him though. The Gators look very good also. I don't care about getting the #1 ranking either. In fact, I'd rather be #2 and have something to shoot for than be #1 and try and hold it. My team did impress me against VT though. Very solid on both sides of the ball. And special teams too. We all know how many kicks VT has blocked over the last 1000 years. And with LSU using "Punt Ugly" formation, it surprised me that they never got to one.
Texas Zack said:
posted on September 12, 2007 3:33 AM — 72.24.87.179 — link — abuse?
Israelis and Palestinians
Irish Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland
Texas fans and OU fans
it will never end.
Until we play each other I cant help but see this as comparing apples to oragnes. On one hand, OU dismantled Miami, a reputable program in history (but not overly great this year), yet Texas beat a ranked team (with a great defense). We'll have to see when we meet in the cotton bowl.
Sidenote: Anyone going to that game by chance?
OU Fan said:
posted on September 12, 2007 3:39 AM — 139.139.51.70 — link — abuse?
Tommie Trojan post #106, you said "Youz guyz gotz to see if I'm wrong first - before youz startz to cry too much." Hopefully you weren't referring to me because I was not and showed no indication of crying in my post. I was only giving my opinion in regards to your post and was stating why the Sooners made it to the national championship in 2004 and 2005. And I am in no way trying to say that Oklahoma will go to the national championship this year. For me to make a statement that like is crazy. Oklahoma has a lot of football to play and anything could happen. To me, teams that try to look that far ahead during the regular season are crazy, and that just might bite Les Miles in the a$$. He seems so certain that LSU will make it to the national championship, but any team on any given Saturday could ruin their chances. Hell, for all we know, it could be West Virginia versus Wisconsin in the BCS title game. Good luck. BOOMER SOONER!
Tomcat said:
posted on September 12, 2007 4:21 AM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
#104 WarEagleAtL Good post dude
This is a purty funny thread seems as if we all ought to just give up and watch the
S. Carolina vs Oklahoma game
After all OU whuped N Tex bottom of the Sun belt
and a unranked UM team that finished the 06 season 7-6 with 2- 1 point victories over Nev and Houston. Both teams with new HC's both games played at Norman Ok
And the unanimous #1 Team in America apropriatley named the Cocks- heck they even beat the Raging Cajuns by 14 points Wow and now after that UGA beatdown-skys the limit!
Fan Bloggers guess we wont hear the end of it next week as OBC and his boys take on SC St at home.The Sooners will face The Mighty 0-2 Utah St.
Might as well crown these Bozos Champion now,
New Polls after week # 3
#1 South Carolina
#2 Oklahoma
#3 USC
#4 LSU
Roll another one and dream on
Hookem-HornsLennie Collins said:
posted on September 12, 2007 5:02 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey Dman...I have no wife. I have a 6 year son and a job. How about you? Give me your bio? I still hear all the talk and jokes about OU this & OU that. It seems the few have tell jokes cause they don't have jack to say. Well here is something to think about. OU beat an unranked North Texas and an unranked Miami sitting in at #3. USC beat an unranked and unimpressive Idaho team and still #1. Yet I don't see the critics coming out to talk any on that. I guess USC is the untouchables of college football. So why all you are doing your best to break me down, break that question down. I'm sure the ones that don't have much to say will continue with the jokes, the true fans of the game will.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 12, 2007 5:25 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Geauxtigers0107 I am not related to Cock 'n' Fire South Carolina 101. He is no different than anyone else here. He has great love and joy for his team. I feel that if you don't have great love for USC, ut, are the TOP dogs of the SEC, people like to put you down here. LSU in my opinion should be #1 but there is still more football left to be play. If I were an LSU fan I would be worried more about the Michigan job as a distraction than the SEC schedule. I hope that the rumors will not hinder LSU chances. I guess now that War Eagle Atlanta has amused us with his I guess Survivor jokes he will go away. After Auburn's lost to the Bulls of South Florida I don't think he has much to say but jokes! Tomcat has long as I remember ut has been favorite in most of the games with OU. I believe during that 5 game win streak OU was favorite in only 2 and those were that years they won 14 - 3 and 12 -0.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 12, 2007 5:38 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey Soonerfanatic28 what's going on. Man, all some of these other fans here aren't doing much but talking bad about the Sooners. It's amazing how some are saying OU has beat UNRANKED teams and is #3. I am surprised that LSU(SEC) fans are talking bad about OU and not USC. LSU has had the most impressive win of any top 10 team yet is still #2. I keep hearing about the past in regards to OU but USC did lose last year to UCLA and they did beat MICHIGAN but we all know what is happening to MICHIGAN. I guess these other fans are afraid to talk bad about USC. I will give Tommie Trojan some credit he has realized that USC has not been tested. I think that USC and Nebraska game will be the best game all weekend followed by Tennessee and Florida. I am going with both HOME teams to win. I am curious why ABC is showing Notre Dame at Michigan? Take care!
Tomcat said:
posted on September 12, 2007 7:21 AM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
Interesting games Lennie Im still laughing
SMU vs Ark St
BC vs G Tech
Ole Miss vs Vand
FSU at Colo
Louis at KY--Go Wildcats
Houston at Tulane
Ark at Bama----Roll Tide
S Miss at E Car
Miss St at Auburn
UTep at N Mex St
Mich vs ND who cares ?
Ohio st vs Wash
Go La Tech Bulldogs beat Cal
Go Midd Tenn beat LSU
Go Rice Owls beat T TechOU-Ron
posted on September 12, 2007 7:54 AM — 166.214.83.163 — link — abuse? said:
Hey Tomcat, glad your back, I see you waited until texas had a decent second half game against TCU before you started talking your smack. What were you thinking after the ASU game and the first half of the TCU game, Bet I could guess, well don’t lose those thoughts, before the season is over they’re going to turn into nightmares.
Texas sucks (a lot)
Go Sooners
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 12, 2007 11:40 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Tomcat, I am glad you are still laughing. I am laughing as well. It seems when I ask a question about USC most are going to avoid it. A few of those games you mentioned could re-arrange the polls BUT USC at Nebraska and Tennesse at Florida are going to have a say in the race for the National Title. If USC loses I will not be shocked if they only drop a few spots (#4). They will get mercy from the voters. You have to be true fans to watch Notre Dame at Michigan!
Clemson Fan said:
posted on September 12, 2007 4:34 PM — 65.183.99.20 — link — abuse?
Post 124 Cock and Fire,
I did not turn anything around on you. I simply pointed out that your statements are ridiculous.
I am also fully aware that Spurrier has only the finest young men coming to the University of South Caroina. I know this because everytime; over the past three years, after one of the them gets arrested, Spurrier tells us that we should not rush to judgement because he is a fine young man.
So if you want to get in a fight at a bar and run from the police, key a proffessors car, carry firearms on campus, get shot in a bad drug deal, cut class or simply do not have the grades.... Well then you can play for Steve Spurrier. (And that is only what has happened the last three months!) Give Holtz is due, at least he had the courage to kick them off!Clemson Joe said:
posted on September 12, 2007 4:59 PM — 24.168.208.54 — link — abuse?
Cock'n'fire:
How does it feel to be the whipping post of this particular post? Your asinine comments are funny to read, I'll give you that. Let me let you in on a little secret: the more you say, the more you'll have to eat in the next few weeks. It's much better to let things play out a bit before you open your mouth. USC joins 49 other teams in the nation in being undefeated, and at this point that's really all that matters.
I am a firm believer that no one knows anything until after the 3rd week at the earliest. SC's win over Georgia seems impressive, but we really don't even know if Georgia is any good. Same goes for Oklahoma over Miami, LSU over VT, or even Nebraska over Wake Forest. It is also because of this that I think that preseason polls, and even early season polls (like week 2), are absurd. Does it really make any logical sense that the previously believed to be #5 team in the country truly isn't even in the top 40? Seems to expose the blatant fallacy to me.
Anyway, like I said, in my opinion the conclusion of week 3's action will give us a bit of clarity as to the true situation nationwide in college football. I will be looking forward to 10 games in particular this weekend.
Ohio State vs. Washington
West Virginia vs. Maryland
Florida State vs. Colorado
Texas vs. Central Florida
Tennessee vs. Florida
UCLA vs. Utah
Arkansas vs. Alabama
USC vs. Nebraska
Boston College vs. Georgia Tech
Louisville vs. KentuckyI feel like the outcome of these 10 will tell us a lot about the reality of how strong these teams are. Also, I'm curious to see if Spurrier will hold off on blowing out SC State this weekend as an act of mercy. LMFAO
PS - I used to post under "USC = Univ. of Second Choice" although it seemed to cause more offense than it was worth, so this is the name I'll be using from here on out.PSS - Am I the only one that thinks it's hilarious that Notre Dame and Michigan are winless?
Clemson Joe said:
posted on September 12, 2007 5:05 PM — 24.168.208.54 — link — abuse?
Interesting link by the way:
http://www.strangestbrew.com/cfb_sched/sch_opt.phpcock'n'fire south carolina 101 said:
posted on September 12, 2007 5:18 PM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
post 138 lennie
thanks for sticking up for me ur right i do love my team
post 131 tiger dude that lost to south florida
who said anything about me blowing my horn off because of a good win at georgia...if ull notice i said the exact same stuff last week before we played georgia, i said that we would beat georgia by about a touchdown or somethin and everybody said we would get the crap beaten out of us...well look who was right? however i may not be right this time but i stand by my prediction 31-17 south carolina on top for week 4
post 136 tomcat
ok lets go along with what all of you are saying...well say blake mitchell didnt overthrow any shots at the end zone and mathew stafford overshot 10 and georgia should of beat us because they have a quarterback that cant throw...notice all the pressure that was put on stafford and how tight we were with the man to man coverage we played defense well enough to make that happen...and that trick play georgia tried that shoulda been a 40 yard sack ill go with what ur saying, he threw the ball in place and somehow it should have magically shot 60 yards downfeild into the hands of a georgia receiver...now if ur ready to talk reality then lets recap...why do you think that its not possible for south carolina to win...notice the georgia game was a big change in history because its the first time since the 1980s our alltime record has been half and half were 517-517-44
and post 144 clemson fan
stephen garcia keyed the car around february not in the past 3 months and blake mitchell punched the bouncer almost a year ago yet again not in the last 3 months and the firearm didnt even belong to emanuel cook and i dont remember any shooting in a bad drug deal and blake never cut classes, if u read a little closer youll notice it says he didnt attend enough summer skool classes and lastly those guys that didnt have the grades never got in and our guys arent smoking pot and thats why holtz kicked derek watson and demetris summers(who went to my high skool) off the football team...so you need to think before you speak and maybe you should try reading the stories instead of listening to the rumors
GO COCKS!
Clemson Joe said:
posted on September 12, 2007 5:29 PM — 24.168.208.54 — link — abuse?
Cock'n'fire:
I also can claim Lexington as my alma mater. Your misuse of the language is a disgrace to the wonderful academic tradition that so many of us have worked hard to achieve. Please start using spell check and/or grammar check. Also, when 'Clemson Fan' referred to all of that happening in the last 3 months, it was a figurative statement. The fact that you have to offer up excuses for the multitude of mishaps by SC players as of late simply proves his point. Way to go.
"maybe you should try reading the stories instead of listening to the rumors" - Surely you are not getting your information from the oh so reputed "The State" newspaper. Please find a new media outlet. However, judging from your prowess with the English language, you just might be an employee of "The State".
Just think, in just 2 more weeks, you get to draw up some new excuses. Oh, what joy.
cock'n'fire south carolina 101 said:
posted on September 12, 2007 5:30 PM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
post 145 clemson joe
yeh i get what ur sayin but notice im predicting not saying it will be the end of the world if it doesnt happen...and i stand by my 31-17 prediction at LSU...also georgia had proved themselves to be a decent team by blowing out oklahoma state when they came back in the 2nd half...and i dont have to see the gamecocks prove anything i already know our team well enough
GO COCKS!
cock'n'fire south carolina 101 said:
posted on September 12, 2007 5:37 PM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
post 148 clemson joe
i dont work for the state, im a frigin junior at lexington high...and thank god they carpeted the common areas because to think of walking on the same ground that you did awful...i bet ur like 35 and u graduated from lexington high 3 years ago...and maybe about half the stuff i see in the state newspaper
Clemson Fan said:
posted on September 12, 2007 5:55 PM — 65.183.99.20 — link — abuse?
Post 147 Cock and Fire
Well excuse me then.... forget what I said about Lou Holtz and him having the courage to disicpline his team. Apparently that is not important to you. I know it is to other South Carolina fans because they are disturmbed by Spurrier's total lack of character and ethics.
What kind of coach says he is going to quit if the academic standards are not lowerd to let "stupid" kids into South Carolina?
Garcia WAS arrested in Five Points for fighting and resisting arrest. Blake Mithcel did the same a year ago. Blake Mitchel DID cut class and that is why he was not allowed to play in the opener. You play with words... Let's see you say Mitchel was suspended for not going to enough classes.... other people call that cutting class. And i hang out with friends who have guns all the time.... Poor Emanuel Cook, he did not know he friend carried handguns on campus.
Well I will give you time to think about that... woops! i mean respond.
cock'n'fire south carolina 101 said:
posted on September 12, 2007 6:03 PM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
post 151 clemson fan,
lou holtz has every right to kick the potheads off the team but if your players key somebodys car or something yeh i bet u think they should be kicked off the team too...and the answer to that question is steve spurrier, he may not be the most realistic coach but he sure is doing alot better than lou holtz...well i cant leave anymore comments for now i gotta go to church later
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 12, 2007 6:40 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey Cock N Fire South Carolina 101. You don't have to thank me. You are entitled to your opinion(s) whether we agree with 'em or not. Most of these post are informative and give good insight. Some don't have much to say like Dman. I wonder if he has some input on college football or wants my bio? A few just want to get a laugh or approval! It's funny Tomcat rants off about OU losing to North Texas, Utah State, and so on but only OU fans thought he was out there. I'm surprised your fellow SEC buddies aren't defending South Carolina???
Clemson Joe said:
posted on September 12, 2007 6:49 PM — 24.168.208.54 — link — abuse?
Cock'n'fire:
Oh, where to begin? First of all, I'm not terribly sure how my age is relevant, but you were well off. I finished college (on time) in the last few years and am a Network and Electrical Engineer. I am an alumnus of Lexington that took academics as well as athletics seriously, and am one that they tend to be proud of. I can see how it would disgrace you to walk the same carpeted halls that I did not so terribly long ago. Although, I will let some things slide since you are obviously young and have not yet even graduated from high school. Please pay more attention in English class though, the real world doesn't take very kindly to such poor usage of the language.
"but if your players key somebodys car or something yeh i bet u think they should be kicked off the team too"
Yes, actually, most people tend to think that vandalism and destruction of another's property is not so becoming of a so called student athlete who is supposed to be representing an institution of higher learning and a football program. If it were my school, I would want said player kicked off the team or severely punished at the least. Stop while you're ahead...sort of.
In accordance with my previous statement, I do not believe that Oklahoma State has proven anything this year. They scored 14 against Georgia in a loss and they beat Florida Atlantic. Well, USC scored 16 against Georgia in a win, and UL Lafayette scored 14 against USC in a loss. So, if you follow logic, UL Lafayette's 14 is greater than OK State's 14. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who believes that UL Lafayette is a good football team though. My point, again, is that no one has proven anything yet, until we can see more than 2 results from each team. South Carolina will get their chance in Week 4. Iff (this is actually a word) SC is able to beat LSU in Week 4, I will surely give them their due credit. Not until then will I be impressed, however. Unfortunately for us Clemson fans, it looks like we have to wait until Week 5 before we can really gauge our football team, but c'est la vie.
Clemson Fan said:
posted on September 12, 2007 7:26 PM — 65.183.99.20 — link — abuse?
Lennie, Post 153... The only reason i made a post was because I got tired of Cock N Fire's ranting over South Carolina and constant cheap shots at Clemson.
That is why no other SEC fan or South Carolina fan has come to his rescue. Post something positive about your school and leave it at that. Otherwise it will turn into name calling. I am only surprised CU Tiger has not had more to say. He usually keeps Cock n Fire in check. But he is leaving this up to me and Clemson Joe.
Lennie.... go back and read Post 97.... That takes the cake.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 12, 2007 7:42 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey Clemson Fan...I didn't say I agreed with him I just said he's entitled to his opinion(s). I would tell you the same thing man. Hey every now and then I like to talk junk but when someone comes along and try to play himself off as college football guru or calls names because you don't bow down and acknowledge his point(s) then I have a problem. Hey I am not saying that is how you are!
CUTotalTiger said:
posted on September 12, 2007 9:56 PM — 68.59.7.45 — link — abuse?
Lennie,
Comments are one thing as are opinions.... But Post #97 is comic relief. Spurrier not running up the score on someone.......please. He would call a timeout to kick a FG with five seconds left leading by 40! And that would be coaching against his mother. He is as ruthless as they come.
Now as far as opinions go....
Alabama had a good win over Vandy this week. No one seems to be talking about this, but that was a pretty good Vandy team.
After watching Miami this week, the question becomes will they win 6 games this season? If not, that is two sub-par season for a team that has no stadium. Will Cane football become something we tell our grandchildren about?
Nebraska could not run the ball on Wake Forest! The cornhuskers had 115 yards rushing to the Deacs 236! Southern Cal had a week off to look at that game..... I bet the Trojans run and dare them to throw.
Just how good is Michigan State? They have two wins and no losses, but the wins have come against UAB and Bowling Green. The next two games are against Pitt and Notre Dame. 4-0 headed into the Wisconsin game?
Why is Florida ranked so high? They have 8 starters from last years team and no one on the defense can buy a beer. Super young defense. They have played Western Kentucky and Troy. I am not saying they are not good.... but number five?Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 12, 2007 10:39 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey CuTotalTiger...The man, me, you, whoever is entitled to their opinion(s) regardless how silly it(they) may sound. Vanderbilt is an improving team, I would say. I remember when Alabama use to beat them 49 - 0. Miami will get better and they will be moving into Dolphin's Stadium next year. I can't comment on the Cornhuskers game as far has rushing. Michigan State? I don't know how good they really are. Why Florida is ranked so high? I really don't know. I personally would like the "commisioners" of each conference to
schedule the games. What I mean is as long as the AD and coaches make their own schedules we will never know who is really good. I would like to see for example the Big 12 play the SEC. Sort like they do in college basket ball except the team(s) play 4 of the other conference teams. Like OU was the Big 12 champions they would play Florida and the top 3 teams that had the best records after Florida on the schedule. Do you understand what I am getting at? I know teams will lose players and coaches but it is better than what teams are doing now! USC fans are saying they are the best but USC beat Idaho, LSU fans are saying they are the best and they beat Mississippi State and Virginia Tech, and OU fans are saying they are the best but OU beat North Texas and Miami. Fans are also going to use polls and the past to validate or discredit a win or loss. I still think that there is no GREAT way to fix it.CUTotalTiger said:
posted on September 12, 2007 11:52 PM — 68.59.7.45 — link — abuse?
Well......everyone is entitled to an opinion... Even the man... but senseless babble?
Easy fix for college football... Conferences send their best teams to the playoffs....
Rule #1, Keep the bowls for those teams that do not make the playoffs.. a Nine win Clemson team deserves to be rewarded to play a 8 win Auburn team in the Peach Bowl. Keep the bowls for the teams that do not make the playoffs.
Rule #2 Each conference sends their team(s) and decides on who that is. Also each conference enforces rule violations. For example, Wisconsin is not going to want Penn State to go unpunished for a violation.
Rule #3 A college season can hava no more than 10 games not including championship games
Rule #4 All regular season games must be completed one week BEFORE Thanksgiving to allow time for championship games and playoffs
Rule #5 Non-Conference games must be played first... otherwise FSU/Fla, Clemson/South Carolina, Georgia/GT.... etc. will be games that have no meaning and only scrubs may play.Now if you are interested in the a SIMPLE format that allows all teams a shot i will give you that as well. It deals with sizw of stadiums, home field, etc.....
Tomcat said:
posted on September 12, 2007 11:54 PM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
Hey OURon #141 Na I didnt wait to post.I really enjoy this site and post when I can.I work for a State River Authority that has water and wastewater treatment plants and hydroelectric dams.We have been experinceing flood events and some guys have been working 12 hr shifts 7 days a week for about 9 weeks.I've been releiving some of the guys on my days off, and alot of times I'm at remote locations without internet access or cable T.V. I was off last Saturday 76 hrs later and got to watch some football.I watched very little of the OU game I switched over to the Neb vs Wake pretty good game.I saw the A&M vs Fresno and the last 3 quarters of UT vs TCU.
I,ve been a UT fan forever and have endured many a unforgetable season.BTW I was in Waco in 1974 and I beleive that is one of the only Texas defeats that I personally ever witnessed live. The other was against Colorado in Austin when Rashon Shalam was running the option.
Far as nightmares go, na its just a game and running up the score on N Texas etc. etc.is really nothing to get excited about, Ive seen alot of that kind of stuff down here.
I really dont remember TCU ever beating Texas, I'm sure its happened, however I do remember Texas whuping TCU on many occasions.
Congrats on yalls outstanding victory over the Hurricanes enjoy it while you can. Texas is facing a winning team in their home stadium.
Right now UT is 2-0 & OU is 2-0
These are both great teams and they will face each other at the Red River Shootout alot bigger game than Ohio St vs Mich or USC vs UCLA in my opinion.
Hookem-HornsLennie Collins said:
posted on September 13, 2007 12:15 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
CUTotalTiger...I think Rival games should all be played last. Louisville & Kentucky, Rice & Houston, Iowa & Iowa State, and Colorado Colorado State are all talking about moving these games to the end of the season. I wished they would get rid of all the bowls and get a 16 team play-off system! Play-offs? Play-offs? Play-off? Tomcat, I know you are earning your pay this year. I ain't gone complain. I actually like the rain. I hope you will get some relief this week-end! OU and ut is one of the best. To me the rivalary has to be close. ut has a +18 over OU but OU has a +56 over Oklahoma State get where I am going. Also the teams got to have winning records. But hey this is my opinion. I am sure Alabama and Auburn, Oregon and Oregon State, and Illinois and Nortwestern is fun too!
Tomcat said:
posted on September 13, 2007 1:45 AM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
Clemson Joe #145 I have to agree with your list of this weeks games.I posted my list of games not because of National impact or top 25 rankings. Sometimes the guys at ESPN/ABC etc. or too focused on certain matchups because of those factors.I listed my matchups for the pure love of the game.I think that its purty cool that the media guys are still building up for the ND vs Mich game two unranked 0-2 teams facing off during prime time on a major network.
I for one love to see underdogs and teams from C-USA, Sunbelt or WAC whup up on the so-called powers. La Tech Bulldogs run up alot of points against Hawaii and Hawaii is top 25?
Where's App state in the rankings ?
I have to kinda agree with some others here on Fanblogs its really too early to say where the teams stand at this point in the season.
Hookem-Horns
Sicem-Bears
Go FrogsDMAN said:
posted on September 13, 2007 3:06 AM — 68.224.30.32 — link — abuse?
Lennie, Relax a little. The season will tell you who is the best. It's early. My team is UNLV, Which has been one of the worst programs the last decade in college football. Last Sat. UNLV played the best I've seen them in years. Still don't exspect much and hope that wasn't their best game of the year simply because it was Wisconsin. I guess I'll see a little more when "colt" comes to town this weekend.
As far as USC and OK are concerned, again, the season is early. I have no idea where these teams will finish. Having said that, I have no problem with USC being #1. USC's game with Idaho meant not a thing when it comes to what I think of USC. I can say that as of this point, when a coach has that much talent and is 61-6 in a power conf. and plays the OCS that Pete Carroll has the last 5 years I"m giving him the benefit of the doubt. On the flip side, OK losing to Boise and losing A.D. and all of a sudden is now God's gift to football, well I'm going to hold judgment for a few weeks.
Lastly, last week I had planned to lay on USC and one of the old times told me "nope" that's a poor value because Carroll is going to play his roster and they won't cover so stay away. I did take that advice and it saved me some money. This week this same gent told me anything under 13 1/2 is a good value against NU. It opened at 10 and needless to say I was at the Casino. Last night this same gent said "I hope you got in" and of course I said "yep". He responded with a "good bet kid". I'm 45.
out.Tomcat said:
posted on September 13, 2007 5:06 AM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
Cock N fire So Car 101 In reference to post #147.
Hey I didnt even see yalls game, I have no idea what happened on the feild of play.My post # 136 was just a joke, and nothing else.I'm glad your favorite team won a game against a good team.
Im glad that you have confidence in your team and wish yall all the best in the SEC conference.
I really enjoy reading some of these posts and you have to admit that some of them are purty funny. You are a die-hard South Carolina fan and I respect you opionions and your predictions.
Stay in school and try to do your very best, listen and pay attention.You can do anything in this world and dont let anything hold you back.
Set goals and objectives for yourself and give it your best effort and you will be sucessful.
Adios TomcatLennie Collins said:
posted on September 13, 2007 8:29 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey Dman I take it you live in Las Vegas? I have a friend that lives in Las Vegas name Darryl that goes by that nick name! But you are okay with me man! I just thought you were trying to be funny. UNLV will be good soon. I do not think OU for one moment is God's gift to College Football. That in my opinon would be Notre Dame fan, USC fan, and texas fan. I am just confused on how a few fans can breakdown OU's ranking by saying the teams they beat are unranked and bring up the past. If I am not mistaken USC lost to an unranked Oregon State team and UCLA went 7-6 last year. They did beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl and we all know how Michigan is doing but I don't see anyone on this blog breaking USC down like John Madden! I guess it is taboo to talk bad about USC on this blog?!
Tampa Hurricane
posted on September 13, 2007 12:25 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
I know that this happened in week 1 not week 2, what is going on with the mascot fight between Oregon and Houston. Isn't it a huge disgrace to an university to have to suspend a mascot for a game as Oregon has done? What's going on up at the University of Oregon that they can't even control their mascot?
Zac said:
posted on September 13, 2007 3:54 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
Wow! 169 posts already. Uze gize iz hahd ta keep up wit. (BTW OU Fan-Post135, that’s howz ya spell it in nawtheeston.)
Lets see, TampH (Post 37). Shame on ya! Had it been Miami who’d beaten Auburn, you wouldn’t have taken that argument. So, now, I must ask the question: Is Miami really that bad, OR is OK really that good?
Cane Mut. (Post 41), I can agree with you if in fact Miami is that good & TCU is that bad. I think it’s too early to tell yet; the jury is still out.
Jessi (Post 121), before I get started, it’s not just you. So, for those like Jessi, who buy into the argument that old-style, out-dated football don’t work no more in this modern age, I say BULL $HIT!!! It’s got nothing to do with style, and everything to do with coaching & execution. I don’t know the exact words of the quote, but Vince Lombardi was famed for having said something like, “I’ll give your team my play-book. And, if we block better, tackle harder, and run faster, I’ll still beat you.”
I don’t care how good your coach is. If his players won’t execute as taught, they won’t win games. I don’t care how good the talent is. If they’re not coached well, they won’t win games. Strength is very important, but there comes a point where you run into diminishing returns. The best players are those who, with the proper guidance, discipline themselves to attain the best combination of agility, speed, maneuverability, and stamina to play a full 60 minutes. Teams with those kind of players, who are also unselfish, and are taught to be students of the game, those are the teams that win.
Clem. Joe (Post 145), I don’t find it hilarious that both ND & MI are 0-2. I think it’s great, given in a game between them and another team, that someone else won. But in a game between 2 teams, someone has to loose. I always feel a little for the looser. Maybe not as much in this case, but I do feel badly for them and their fans.
Cock N Outa-the-Fire & Into-the-Frying-Pan (thought I’d come up with something new; the little cock & misfire things were getting old): Interesting set of rules in post 161. If you’re interested, here’s my take.
Rule #1: I agree for the most part. In a play-off system I think the most prestigious bowls should be reserved for the Final 4 & Final Game.
Rule #2: I don’t really have an issue with this, so long as it’s not the conference championship game winner, and the team sent fits into the play-off schedule with respect to wins vs. losses. 2 loss teams should be avoided; 3 loss teams should not go.
Rule #3: CF is big business. Reducing the # of games is taking money out of someone’s pocket. NOT GOOD!!!
Rule #4: Thanks Giving weekend is one of the biggest CF weekends there is!!!
Rule #5: Ludicrous; scheduling shouldn’t matter.
Here’s my format. Take the Top 10 teams at the end of the year. (I don’t care how many come from the same conference; if you’re in the Top 10 you’re in.) The bottom 4 (#’s 7-10) play off at the site of the highest seed (10 at 7, 9 at 8). The winners (preliminary round) round out the Top 8. It’s easy math from there. This system takes up 7 bowl games; leaves 25 (There are currently 32.) for the rest of those who qualify.
Tomcat (Post 162), you have my permission to get my e-mail address from K-Hue. When time allows, lets talk flood prevention.
Lennie, I’m not really interested in your bio, but I think it’s cool you have a 6 year old. They’re very impressionable at that age. Take good care of him; he’ll do you proud. As for Post 163, I’ve given it a lot of thought; I think a 16 team play-off system may be too much, unless Round 1 is played at the field of the higher seed.
Feeeew!!! Tough to keep up with you guys. Time for some picks.
Ohio State vs. Washington, WA by 8
West Virginia vs. Maryland, My team (WVU); sorry, won’t do it.
Florida State vs. Colorado, CO by 2
Texas vs. Central Florida, TX by 16
Tennessee vs. Florida, Gotta go with the Gators in the swamp, by 6
UCLA vs. Utah, UCLA by 3
Arkansas vs. Alabama, AR by 7
USC vs. Nebraska, USC by 12
Boston College vs. Georgia Tech, GA Tech by 17
Louisville vs. Kentucky, Louisville by 4 (high scoring affair)I’ll have more later; this got way too long. Sorry about that.
lawrence said:
posted on September 13, 2007 8:51 PM — 63.108.130.82 — link — abuse?
i personaly think that a team that has a loss should not be ranked above a team that is undefeted like Tenn. and Georgia granted they are good teams but they both have lost already and teams that havent lost should be above them no matter who they play also if a team plays a small collage then they and plays porley even if they win they should go down in the poles
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 13, 2007 9:51 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey Zac...I don't know if you have any children but for all you college footballl fans here if you get the chance to adopt, do it. Children are a blessing from God no doubt about it. My son brings me more joy than college footall can ever give. There is no comparison. December 24,2000 will always be instilled in my mind. Yes OU fans my son's birth was more joyful than OU's National Title victory over Florida State a few days later!
CUTotalTiger said:
posted on September 13, 2007 11:01 PM — 68.59.7.45 — link — abuse?
ZAC..... belive I have thought this thing through, even before the BCS... There is a reason for each.
1) Bowls are huge to cities and the kick backs the NCAA receives for keeping them and creating them would be lost. Not only that, decent teams and their fans should be rewarded. We agree on this one.
2) Each conference sends their teams. And how each conference does this is up to them. If a 5 loss FSU team wins the ACC... they are in. This keeps voting out of it. It also makes the conference enforce rules set forth by the NCAA. Do you think Georgia is not going to want Florida banned from post-season if they committed an infraction?
3) The college presidents have been complaining about football taking the student out of the class too much now. I suppose you could have 11 games.. but then if a team makes the playoffs, how many games would they play.
4) IN ORDER FOR ANY play off to work... you can not have regular season games on Thanksgiving. There is simply not enough days. Play the conference championships on Thanksgiving weekend.
5) Think for a second Zac. If FSU, is going to play for the conference title and a chance to get into the playoffs, plays Florida the week before the title game....... It will be scrub city. Put yourself as the head coach of Georiga for a second. Your team is headed to Atlanta to play Auburn for the title and home field in the playoffs. You have GT in a game that means nothing. Not even to recruits as most have already committed in today's world. Are you going to risk your qb getting hurt?I suppose the fifth rule could be abolished, but if i were head coach and had a lame duck game.... you better believe my best players are resting.
Zac said:
posted on September 13, 2007 11:43 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
I almost forgot: MI/ND. Which one goes to 1-2; which one goes winless in 3 straight?
2 more questions: When was the last time the Irish lost 3 in a row (1963?)? Now for the bigger one - When was the last time MI lost 3 straight At Home?!?
Last question: Who has the most to loose???
Now for my pick: MI by 1 on a last second FG. Go BLUE!!!
Lennie: Don't let Air Force surprise you. They had the Vols dead-to-rights in Knoxville last year; lost to TN by 1. TCU was probably still hurting from the game in Austin. No excuses, boys; ya still hazta execute.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 13, 2007 11:53 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey Zachary...I am not saying the Air Force is BCS bound but I am not going to say they are terrible. But ut fans has commented on North Texas and Miami loses to OU now I am ready to see them BREAKDOWN TCU's lost. ut beat TCU when they were ranked #19. I heard some ut fans comment on Michigan & Virginia Tech preseason rankings now I am just curious how they are going to breakdown TCU's preseason ranking NOW! Not only that another doggone ut player has gotten arrested along with a former ut player TODAY.
Clemson Joe said:
posted on September 14, 2007 1:15 AM — 24.168.208.54 — link — abuse?
Does anyone think that Air Force will be the BCS buster this year? It does look like a long shot, but they have a few (maybe 4) tough tests left, and anything could happen.
Regan (#156)
I was just a few years behind you. It is a very small world indeed.Zac (#170)
Sorry, I do find it hilarious. The silence from Ann Arbor and South Bend is deafening. I can't say I have anything against Michigan, but it's still nice to see a good old fashioned reality check. Well, that and the fact that I was in attendance at both of App State's National Championship wins.
What a great day for ASU, and the beautiful town of Boone, North Carolina.
Tomcat said:
posted on September 14, 2007 3:49 AM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
Hey Lennie Are you a fisherman? Seems like your always trolling your bait right off the bottom.
Sometimes you get a nibble, but wait hold on you might land a whopper.Usually when I go fishing theres no problem landing a big one.When I catch a small one I usually just hook it the through eyeballs and recast.I like to keep my drag tight then when I get a bite,I'll pull back hard setting the hook.Then I'll losen up my drag and play them a while.I usually fish right above a brushpile or logjam and position my bait on the trash line in the current.
Sorry Lennie your fishing in dead water with low flow its the wrong time of the day and your bait has lost its smell.Well you got a nibble.When I go fishing I usually catch a sackfull.I cast my bait and some OU fan takes it hook line and sinker.
Hookem-Horns
Tomcat-EL Gato TomasBobby said:
posted on September 14, 2007 8:28 AM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
Well Lennie as I see it, more people than just Longhorn fans talked down the ou win over Miami. I don't recall anyone on here besides ou fans mainly you talking down the UT victory over TCU. In fact I don't recall any comments about UT except from you and ou fans. Now I expect to see some now because of the arrest, and when your team continues to have problems you can bet others are gonna comment. Your always looking for a reason to stir up an arguement with UT fans and normally your trying to get others to follow suit. Brown should have kicked Gatewood off the team last year. I don't know what Brown could have done to prevent this. He could be harder on them no doubt, but Brown is an overly compassionate guy. Dre Jones was an honors student and graduated early fron high school to join the team early, how could Brown see that coming? He just needs to start booting these guys when they are busted with drugs. So come with it guys, I know they're coming. You know the real shame of this is how it casts a negative shadow on great school.
Bobby said:
posted on September 14, 2007 8:51 AM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
Lennie, you are amazing. Just reading post #176 again. How does everything on this blog eventually come back to UT fans with you? I've noticed you can't go usually more than 3 posts until your trying to bring UT and UT fans into some arguement. You better hope that ou doesn't drop a game this season because people are gonna take a giant crap on you because of all your crying that you do on here. If someone didn't know any better they'd think this blog was about ou and the injustice to it's #1 fan Lennie Collins according to Lennie Collins, from UT fans, USC fans, with a sprinkling of SEC fans. I can hardly wait to see the next injustice report if Miami wins. Lennie, did a little research TCU rounded out the season with the #3 defense and returned 9 starters. Thought you'd want to know because one of your posts you stated that they had a top defense last year. Seems hard hard to have that large of a drop when you return 9.
Tomcat said:
posted on September 14, 2007 9:16 AM — 70.242.185.185 — link — abuse?
180 Lennie Just mixed my first one at 7:20 AM
That Ex-Longhorn that was arrested for DWI was Peter the Great the only Longhorn QB to beat OU 4 years in a row .
Na not the riddler, I'm really a fisherman.
I actually have some State water body records and a 41" striper hanging on the wall in my living room.Caught a 24" Largemouth last June and I have a 11.75" sunfish in my freezer. Its kinda funny because I fish for catfish and catch all this other stuff accidently, of course with live bait on the bottom in these rivers you will catch a vareity of different fish.
181 ya Bobby Gatewoods off the team, saw the interveiw with the Sherrif this morning he said it was about one hundreth of a gram of pot found in a baggie.Failed to make a turn signal.
zero tolerance-get ready for alot of negative comments from the sooner faithful. They just love to try compete on the same level as the Mighty Horns even on blogs-ya rightTomcat said:
posted on September 14, 2007 9:27 AM — 70.242.185.185 — link — abuse?
Bobby Youre right. I didnt see the game, however I understand there was a turnover and a couple of missed feild goals and anytime it goes into OT thats purty cool, besides TCU has more wins than N Texas, Michigan and Notre Dame all together.After this weekend Mich or ND can move up to TCU's record.
BTW UCF beat NC st on the road
Utah St 0-2soonerfanatic28 said:
posted on September 14, 2007 9:31 AM — 64.136.49.227 — link — abuse?
Well looks like I missed a lotta moaning and complaining from shothorn fans (doesn't surprise me) Hey cock'n misfire#129 don't even joke about OU playing the cocks...lol make it into the top 15 before you talk trash. When have the cocks won a National Championship? Better yet an SEC Title? No you guys will never be on the radar,NEVER have! Do every body in here a favor and shut the heck UP!!! Everybody is sick of shuting lil cock AND NO Fire up!
Do NOT post until you win the SEC!(In Other Words you'll never post again!) And shorthorn fans what did I tell ya "Corso and the guys dont know anything".I knew you guys (well tom cat would be the first to say anything.
Once again DO NOT POST UNTILL YOU BEAT US(IN OTHER WORDS YOULL NEVER POST AGAIN!) OU has more National Titles than texass more BIG XII CHAMPIONSHIPS than texass. OU IS Currently ranked higher than Texass. We have the longest winning streak in College Football More heisman winners than Texass,The best winning percentage in the modern era,I could go on! 21-13 over arkansas state? wow you guys suck!soonerfanatic28 said:
posted on September 14, 2007 9:32 AM — 64.136.49.227 — link — abuse?
Well looks like I missed a lotta moaning and complaining from shothorn fans (doesn't surprise me) Hey cock'n misfire#129 don't even joke about OU playing the cocks...lol make it into the top 15 before you talk trash. When have the cocks won a National Championship? Better yet an SEC Title? No you guys will never be on the radar,NEVER have! Do every body in here a favor and shut the heck UP!!! Everybody is sick of shuting lil cock AND NO Fire up!
Do NOT post until you win the SEC!(In Other Words you'll never post again!) And shorthorn fans what did I tell ya "Corso and the guys dont know anything".I knew you guys (well tom cat would be the first to say anything.
Once again DO NOT POST UNTILL YOU BEAT US(IN OTHER WORDS YOULL NEVER POST AGAIN!) OU has more National Titles than texass more BIG XII CHAMPIONSHIPS than texass. OU IS Currently ranked higher than Texass. We have the longest winning streak in College Football More heisman winners than Texass,The best winning percentage in the modern era,I could go on! 21-13 over arkansas state? wow you guys suck!Tomcat said:
posted on September 14, 2007 10:49 AM — 70.242.185.185 — link — abuse?
#185 & #186 Do not post till you beat us? So your not posting? 05 UT won 06 UT won
Look I cant help it if Texas is better than OU in every way dont blame me.
BTW looking for a three-peat
How many Nat Titles did OU win without cheating?
cant answer that one.
What is the percentage of OU players from Oklahoma 15 or 20% right?
whats red and a hundred yards long with three teeth?
Front row at a OU football game.
Norman OK---Armpit of the world
Big dance tonight bring your sister
OU Sux
Tyler said:
posted on September 14, 2007 11:37 AM — 129.118.86.231 — link — abuse?
Give OU credit for their great start, they obviously have good weapons on both sides of the ball to win. Just be greatfull your media darling coach mack brown ,who talks to bevo in his headset the whole game, allows you to be ranked number 6.
CUTotalTiger said:
posted on September 14, 2007 1:05 PM — 68.59.7.45 — link — abuse?
Zac post 175,
I say Michigan wins this week. They are at home and they do have an offense. Notre Dame has no offense. It will be close. I say 21-17.
Much more important game for the Irish.... An 0-3 with who they have left keeps them from going to a bowl game.soonerfanatic28 said:
posted on September 14, 2007 2:52 PM — 64.136.26.235 — link — abuse?
Lol Tomcat you're hilarious should I bring up the ASU game again? You're just mad OU has that nice "ol BIG XII championship trophy and the fact that we're ranked higher than texas. So go cry pussycat.
"Better than us in every way" Ha except all those I just listed...(everything)
P.S Your shorthorns suck!
10-6-07 DEVESTATIONLennie Collins said:
posted on September 14, 2007 2:55 PM — 70.253.66.98 — link — abuse?
Bobby & Tomcat...yeah, yeah, yeah. I notice how vocal you guys got when I recall OU was about to play Miami. When your predictions were wrong you guys played Miami off to be nothin'. I just asked a simple question and as usual...AVOIDANCE!
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 14, 2007 3:05 PM — 70.253.66.98 — link — abuse?
I notice also Tomcat has to bring up ut beating OU and the reference about cheating. If you got facts then bring'em if it's your opinion well as far as I am concern your opinions don't mean (You fill in the blank.) Tomcat, OU got more National Titles and Conference Titles than ut, FACT. Go look it up. Tomcat I was right...Every time you say something half way decent you say 3 things dumb. I believe you are mentally impaired. Do you smoke marijuana? Do you abuse hard liquor. Did you ever have a head injury? Are you in therapy?
Bobby said:
posted on September 14, 2007 3:17 PM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
ty a tech...are you at texas tech, because if you are I guess the best you can do is jump on the ou shortbus. We all know that you can't talk about your team. When Texas, ou, aTm, and TCU don't want you we will we're texas tech. It's cool ou fans keep talkin'...Lennie you keep on thinkin' the world's against you and that you bring justice to the injust world of sooner football. And as usual Lennie everyone's wrong and your right. Ty at tech and Tyler? Are you the same guy? I have a cousin that goes to tech. Are you originally from Midland,TX? I'd like to see how much crap you ou fans were talking when ou was down. i'd bet you guys were pretty quiet.
OU-Ron
posted on September 14, 2007 4:45 PM — 72.198.24.199 — link — abuse? said:
@187 Tomcat, you’re friggin amazing, there’s not anything positive coming from the texas program right now so you want to bring up cheating that happened back probably before your children were born. In your post # 183 you said Macks 0 tolerance, if he really had a 0 tolerance program, Gatewood would not have had a chance to break the law again, at least as a team member. You also said “They just love to try compete on the same level as the Mighty Horns even on blogs-ya right “ Competing with what ?, drunks,drugs, felons ?? or maybe is it the way the mighty horns have been crushing your opponents this year. There’s no competing here, texas wins hands down.
Go Sooners
gatorstud said:
posted on September 14, 2007 8:35 PM — 72.69.2.100 — link — abuse?
alright.....enough of the idle chit-chat....lets talk about who tomorrows biggest upset will be......
1. i'm still pickin the cornhuskers to win a close game....they havn't had a no.1 team come to lincoln since 78 or 79.....i'm guessin their getting ready....
2. kentucky over louisville.....lou. is still suspect after their first game and kentucky looks good so far....
3. si it possible that the pac ten can rise up again against a big ten, top tier team.....ty has washington believing...and with the way nd is falling quickly after he was fired and went to washington, it makes his players believe in him and his system even more. so watch-out buckeyes.....
now i am sure i will catch some grief about the fact that i do not have the fla. - tenn. game on here...so i will give my two cents worth on it......yeah, like it's worth that much..lol
i think tenn. might hang with my gators but i see way too much talent in tebow...although our first two games were considered creampuffs, he still had to go out her and execute the plays....and as loud and hot as it is going to be tomorrow at FLORIDA FIELD ...my only concern is tenn. new no huddle scheme...it seems to work for them, but in the end i believe my gators will pull away in the middle of 3rd quarter....
jmho....so now you all can pick it apart....
go gators...and hokies
Zac said:
posted on September 14, 2007 9:07 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
CUTotTig (Post 190), now, you cut dat out. You know darn well if ND goes 6-6 they're in the Gator Bowl. Check out their bowl ties. They're guaranteed the Gator Bowl, if they're bowl eligible and don't get a BCS bid. They'd have to be 7-5 for that to happen. Though I don't think it will, 6-6 is certainly realistic.
Tomcat, thanks for the Bass Pro segment of this blog's programming. You and your buds from OK are a trip!!!
Studly-G (Post 197), ya have some realistic predictions there. I have no doubt that we'll see some record setting stats between KY & Louisville. I hope they've got the people on hand to keep track; one blink and they've missed a big play for a ton of yards. (Now, you watch; with 4 minutes to play the score will be 6-4.) I think Louisville is so embarrassed over their poor defensive showing against Mid TN, they're going to go out and prove themselves. Brohm & Woodson are still going to have a field day.
I'm hoping against hope your prediction in Lincoln comes true. Not only won't I have to work with a bunch of sour pusses complaining about missed opportunities and a porous Black-Shirt "D", but that win lifts one obstacle out-a-da-way for ye & me. In fact, I'll make a deal with ya. You route for WVU; I'll route for your Gators. We both go undefeated & meet in…(Who's got it this year?), well, for the NC. You won't be sorry it's my team, even if we win.
BTW, I think FL has been playing a little better than TN, though the Vols have been playing a little stiffer competition. Since the game's in the Swamp, I have to go with FL.
cock'n'fire south carolina 101 said:
posted on September 15, 2007 1:12 AM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
yall are all crazy
the minute people find out im still in high school they arent acting as hateful toward me and theyre like "stay in skool and pay attention" but i guess thats kinda cool that 2 people on here went to my high school...however our football team has sucked ever since demetris summers and kris clark left
but just one more week until south carolina beats LSU!
and by the way south carolina has won the ACC before and weve been #2 in the nation before until we lost to frigin navy
Regan said:
posted on September 15, 2007 1:22 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
cock'n'fire south carolina 101 (#199):
Carolina won the ACC once. It has since been contested, although personally, I give yall the benefit of the doubt.
As far as 1984 goes, the Carolina-Navy game was my one of first memories of College Football as a kid when I saw that on TV.
Thanks for bringing up good times :-)
And, sadly, much as I don't like Carolina, I will actually be pulling for them to win at LSU. That team is in serious need of some humble pie and just needs to go down.
Losing to the Gamecocks at home? That would do it :-)
Tomcat said:
posted on September 15, 2007 1:55 AM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
#197 I like your predictions who knows
alot of fans look foward to these matchups
KY over Louis
Wash over Ohio St
Neb over USC
Like to see all of these
How about those Troy Trojans
#198 Zac Ya it was getting kinda old so I threw my bait out on post #183 & #187 it was some stink bait, got several bites and landed a couple of woppers.
USC has three really good linebackers, can the Huskers run on them? I dunno will the Blackshirts step it up a knotch ? anything can happen in CFB and the game is at Lincoln.
Others that look interseting any predictions
Arkansas at Alabama true test for the Bama coaching staff,The Hogs are fun to watchMiss St at Auburn both teams at 1-1 the Bulldogs O-Line & D looked good-Tigers are at home
UVA at NC
Ole Miss At Vand
FSU at Colo
BYU vs Tulsa
BC vs GTech
SMU vs Ark st
Wyoming at Bois St
S Miss at E Carolina
UTep at N Mex St
Air Raid said:
posted on September 15, 2007 11:44 PM — 74.197.122.75 — link — abuse?
I guess UT should move up in the polls, they had a pretty impressive win against UCF. They should probably be bumped up to number 4! These polls are laughable, UCLA #11, that turned out well also. Things should be pretty interesting this year. Things are sure to shake up during conference play. Looking forward to a great year!
Wreck Em
P.S. Stop slamming everyone Tomcat, your boy Vince is gonedman said:
posted on September 16, 2007 12:16 AM — 68.224.30.32 — link — abuse?
Lennie-post 167
I read the part about no one was knocking USC. Why should they when you think about it. What's to knock about a program that's 60-6 since 2002. I watched the USC/NU game and it was over by the middle of the 3rd quarter. In fact it was a blow-out. What I like about Pete Carroll is he doesn't care what I or you think. He plays for the season.
Once he saw this game was over he turned it off and started playing everyone like in the Idaho game. He really understands what it takes to win and go thru the season. NU scored three touchdowns in the 4th quarter against everyone including the marching band and Carroll doensn't care. That wow's me about how incredible his coaching skills are. He knows if he wins out he's playing for the title and if playing young players now to help him later against teams like at CAL late in the season, well no wonder he has won so much. Some fans what to brag how thier team beat someone 89-3, Pete Carroll only wants to brag when he holds up the trophy at the end of the season. BTW, My UNLV is getting hammered by Hawaii. I guess thier is always next year.Air Raid said:
posted on September 16, 2007 12:23 AM — 74.197.122.75 — link — abuse?
Nice post dman. Nice analyzation of the game, I agree with you. The nedia triumphs USC, but like you said why shouldn't they, Pete had a bad year last year and he still went to a BCS game and thrashed a Michigan team who was bidding for the national title, and I really don't think USC will have a problem winning out with their schedule. We all saw how tough the Pac-10 is with UCLA. Tough luck on UNLV my friend. Looking forward to more great posts.
Wreck em Tech"THE" BUCKEYE MARK said:
posted on September 16, 2007 3:12 AM — 70.62.161.114 — link — abuse?
Sorry if this makes no sense The bar just let out
USC is #1 but I gained resepct for LSU we all know what is gonna happen in the Pac 10 "USC"
How bout that SEC? will it be LSU or Florida after Miss ST over Auburn thing I give LSU my respect back. but the SEC may have some spoilers South Carolina, Mississippi ST and Kentucky will they win it no I don't think so but they could shake it up a little!
Big East yes West Virginia will win it
ACC Still have no clue
Big 12 I think It is gonna come down to the title game Oklahoma vs Missouri/Nebraska Oklahoma wins
Big Ten "shaking my head" At the beginning of the season I was thinking Wisconsin not very impressive we will see how Big 10 play goes I think as of now it will be the winner of Ohio St vs Penn ST or maybe even a three way. tie I'm not sure but I think Penn ST gets the Rose Bowl bid over Wisconsin I'm not sure and to drunk to look it up.
Sun Belt=Troy
Mtn W is up in the air
WAC #1 Hawaii #2 Boise ST
MAC Ohio over East Mich in the title game
Con USA to competitive to say now
Hey Kevin Donahue I have An Idea for 2 new threads that should probably not be done till Sunday after week 5top 10 most improved teams
I'm thinkin Mississippi ST,Cincy,USF,Missouritop 10 going the wrong way
Notre Dame,Michigan,Auburn,Clemson Joe said:
posted on September 16, 2007 3:35 AM — 24.168.208.54 — link — abuse?
"THE" BUCKEYE MARK (#210)
Is it so hard to believe that Auburn is garbage on the field this year and Miss State is still just as bad as previously thought?Some other scores that I found interesting:
OK St. - 23
Troy - 41 (hmmm... UGA over OK St. doesn't look quite so good now, does it?)Citadel - 31
Wisconsin - 45 (tied at 21 at halftime)Florida Atlantic - 42
Minnesota - 39 (Big Ten??????)Iowa State - 15
Iowa - 13 (Big Ten??????)Texas - 35
UCF - 32 (UT fans can't feel good after this)Michigan - 38
Notre (always overrated) Dame - 0
*- Michigan lost to App St. at home, then blew ND out of the water in South Bend. Can we please see App St. at home vs. ND? I'd certainly make the drive for that.Utah - 44
UCLA - 6 (2nd week in a row so called #11 gets worked over)McNeese St. - 38
UL Lafayette - 17 (Point of interest for SC fans)Tomcat said:
posted on September 16, 2007 6:45 AM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
Clemson Joe #211
Troy 41 Ok St 23 Great game
Ark st 45 SMU 28 Sunbelt doing goodTulsa 55 BYU 47 Wow face OU next week
S Miss 28 E Car 21
UVA 22 NC 20
Vand 31 Ole Miss 17
Bama 41 ARk 38
KY 40 Louis 34
N Mex 29 UTEP 24
UT 35 UCF 32
Looks like KY and Bama should be top 25 after today. I guess you didnt see the UT vs UCF game.
Great game, I liked the way the boys played. There were 3 turnovers 2 fumbles 1 INT and a couple of bonehead 15 yd penalties other than that it was good game.
Early in the game on 4th and 2 on the UCF 8 they kicked a FG, I thought they shoulda went for it.
McCoy played hard and only threw a couple of boners one was picked. J Charles ran the ball well except for two fumbles one that was on the UCF 2 yard line. UCF has a great RB K Smith he broke lose on one good one towards the end.
I really didnt agree with going for 2 after the last UT score and that liked to cost them. It was
35 to 24 with about 3 min left, UT got the ball back and was driving when Charles fumbled UCF had one quick drive and score and got the 2 point coversion final 35-32 great game
UT 229 yds rush 259 pass
UCF 192 yds rush 134 pass
It was one of those games where it seemed like the Knights were getting all the breaks, a missed feild goal, fumble on the UCF 2 yd line, a pass received in the end zone and the receiver was pushed out of bounds. I thought the UT OC Davis called a real consevitive game alot of short stuff. The boys played hard and anytime you can get a win with three turnovers, a couple of bonehead 15 yd penalties on the road in the rain that aint too bad. Thats why the game is played and every game is different. UCF played hard and never gave up.They are a very well coached team and they executed their final drive perfectly.
The UT vs UCF game is one of those were if you lose they all holler you should have won and if you win they all holler you should scored more or held them for less, ya right a win is a win
Hookem-Horns
Bobby said:
posted on September 16, 2007 1:45 PM — 70.112.114.73 — link — abuse?
I agree with you on the UT/UCF game. I think UCF got some home field calls. UT caught some breaks too. I think UT will drop a spot or two in the rankings. To me Tomcat this is a re-loading year for UT. They are not a championship team. I'm hoping for a good bowl game. I've got this crazy hope that Brown will ditch Greg Davis and get us an OC that will better suit the team because our game plan is too predictable, and I don't think it plays to Colts abilities.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 16, 2007 2:30 PM — 70.253.81.137 — link — abuse?
Yes Dman...I picked Nebraska to beat USC because I thought NU was good enough to do it. I am not gone be a double mind person and change my opinion because they lost. I notice most people here do their talking after the fact. I will say it here right now so take note that I believed USC will lose to Oregon, Arizona State, and California. I don't jock a team because everyone else does!
doug said:
posted on September 16, 2007 6:58 PM — 68.13.254.39 — link — abuse?
how could Ou drop in the polls, it has been dominating every game! I know these are not ranked teams , but they are not barely winning like Texas is either ( they are also playing 2nd and 3rd team playes inthe 3rd and 4th quarters). i know florida is doing great, but come one oklahoma is doing as good as anybody and when they beat texas by 35 or more will they then get the respect they deserve, i say not, they dont have hollywoood stars standing on the sidelines of every game, everyone says USC is so powerfull, so they beat Nebraska so did OU last year and Nebraska has almost the same team. OU is much better than last year. Also how many other teams are winning by the amunt OU is and they are putting in the 2nd team at half time. i say OU is not getting the respect they so deserve!
soonerfanatic#23 said:
posted on September 16, 2007 7:24 PM — 64.136.49.227 — link — abuse?
POST#215 I really think you're delusional! Face it USC has the #2 hardest schedule in the country...they WILL LOSE!
TOMCAT AND BOBBY oh yeah texas played great,except the fact it was UCF! A couple of bonehead calls or else texas might have dominated and won by 5.
The truth is texas is terrified of playing OU, especially when you beat Arkansas State and UCF by a COMBINED total of 11 points...? yay! The shorthorns might be able to keep it within 60 points of losing this year to OU. (MAYBE)btw OU drops below florida...? Oh well the gators will lose to LSU and be put back in their place.
Bobby said:
posted on September 16, 2007 10:02 PM — 70.112.114.73 — link — abuse?
Soonerfanatic...I don't see where Tomcat or I said that UT played great. Did you read #213? Typical ou rhetoric. You think you guys will beat us by 60 huh? Is there any ou fan on here that is not so fanatical that they could actually make sense? Soonerfanatic do you really believe you can beat us by 60? Do you really think that UT is scared to play ou? Do you think with Rice 6 days away and then K-State that the Longhorns are sitting around thinking of ou? That's delusional right there my friend. I don't think any team in division 1 goes into a game scared. You just keep telling yourself that soonerdellusional if helps you feel good.
The sooner covered wagon...America's Original Shortbus...
DMAN said:
posted on September 17, 2007 3:54 AM — 68.224.30.32 — link — abuse?
Lennie, If I had a dollar from every person here that has said they think USC will lose the last 5 years I'd be able to take a year off. USC losing 3 games is just not honest. Your emotion is without question part of that feeling. As I've said in the past, USC or anyone losing a game would not shock me, But losing three, well that's just silly.
Tomcat said:
posted on September 17, 2007 4:34 AM — 69.148.173.234 — link — abuse?
#213 Bobby good post and I agree and have always thought OC Davis is too predicable. Why not get loose and mix up some wild stuff.Put John Chiles in a series at Wishbone with Kindle & Charles and or McGee and Obyala-Heck why not? The triple option simular to what Ark & Rice used to do. They have the speed and the talent and would be unstopable.Then with no huddle switch back to the spread and have 3 go deep.Get plum crazy on offense instead of the same old dump it off for a 3-5 yd gain. On short yardage they should bring in a bigger stronger guy than trying to run Jammal up the middle.For example put Kindle in as QB and run a QB sneak or use a D Lineman with a fullback blocking-Heck do something strange.
Just a few years ago like 01,02,03,04 etc they were so predicable that it was plum ridiculas pound it down the middle and dump it off to the tight end was whole play book and then on third and long throw the deep ball. I would like to see some crazy running like Ark and some trick plays like Bois St and Oregon uses.
I knew that Alabama would have success on offense this year with OC Applewhite.That young man is a real master of the game.He coached under T.Grahmn last year at Rice and took a team from 1-10 to 7-6 thats amazing.
T Grahmn is now HC at Tulsa and they are kicking some -ss. They will have their hands full this weekend hosting OU. Looking foward to the game.
Go TulsaBobby said:
posted on September 17, 2007 8:34 AM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
Tomcat #223...Greg Davis is gonna have to wake up. They are going to have to get some trick stuff in to wake the offense up. We have talent they are just not on the field enough. Where was Norton and Muckelroy? Norton was in one series ..3 tackles ...UCF three and out. Bobino and Killibrew are killibrewing us on defense. The sad reality is that Greg Davis and Brown are married at the hip..Brown was in Davis' wedding. Until we game plan better on offense and get the talent on the field on defense every game will be tight. I'm afraid it will take a loss to get this done and K-State is coming in 2 weeks. Not to mention the offensive line is not getting a good push. Applewhite were are you!?
Bobby said:
posted on September 17, 2007 12:33 PM — 146.6.158.10 — link — abuse?
OU-Ron...no nerve hit bro. Just figured out that no matter what any UT fan on here says ..you, Lennie, or some other ou fan are just gonna sling S!@# any chance you get. So I've tried just talking football...you guys want nothing of it. So now I will just sling s!@# with the rest of ya.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 17, 2007 2:21 PM — 162.89.0.47 — link — abuse?
Whoever is using lennie=delusional as a handle please let me know your real name when USC loses so you can get on these(You know what) when it happens! I take it has a compliant that someone has to use my name in their handle. I really must got you nervous about USC season. I am not putting on equipment and playing. I am just like you and everyone else on this blog...giving facts and opinions on the current college football season! So keep it and we will see who is delusional!
Bobby said:
posted on September 17, 2007 3:35 PM — 128.83.241.110 — link — abuse?
War Eagle #231, now that's funny. I've found myself thinking that if Lennie wasn't paying close enough attention he'd start arguing with his own posts. Whoever is using Lennie Collins as a handle please let me know your real name so I can argue with you over the injustice being administered by UT,USC, and SEC fans to ou fans.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 17, 2007 5:21 PM — 162.89.0.47 — link — abuse?
Hey Bobby did you want that shot glass back from OU Ron? Were you going to continue to drink shots from it after he concealed his parts in it? Bobby I did not think you were like that, hey it's your thing do what'cha wanna do. Hey maybe you and War Eagle of Atlanta could hook up on a date. It seems like you two are always jocking each other!
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 17, 2007 5:30 PM — 162.89.0.47 — link — abuse?
Hey OU Ron I don't think Bobby is doing it. Bobby can say some stupid ddo-doo at times but I have no problem with him. This War Eagle Atlanta is like the clap! He does not have much to say since Auburn got (beep) slapped by South Florida and Mississippi State. He sounded like a little (beep) when others were coming down on him about the Auburn losses. He doesn't not have much to say except jokes. If I was Bobby I would watch out for him. He could be looking for a mate!
Tomcat said:
posted on September 17, 2007 5:44 PM — 70.242.185.185 — link — abuse?
#231 WarEagleAtl It depends on of it is A Texas fencepost,Then yes.
#229 Bobby I have to agree, its kinda getting old.I try at times not to bring myself down to their level and then sometimes its like OK what the heck. Lennie by his own admission is going to slam Texas before and after every game no matter what. He is going to try to insult the Coaches, players and fans at every opportunity.
He admitted right here on fanblogs that he lives in Austin and works at UT. He should probably find out about the cost of a one way flight to Norman OK.He would probably be happier up there. I dunno
Lennie good luck in you future
Are you a mental pateint?
Do you smoke Marijuana?
Are you a heavy drinker?
Have you had head injuries?
Dont get pissed-off you asked me the same questions- I did not reply because
This site is about football-nothing personal
Go Tulsa
posted on September 17, 2007 6:10 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Tomcat: Lennie accused me of being gay. I thought it was the Sooners who were the ball-grabbers.
Nevermind. I retract that statement. I am not getting in the middle of this Texas/Oklahoma continual turf battle on here.
Hey Lennie: No one's come down on me about Auburn. They may think they have, but they haven't. They can't affect my loyalty for my team. That's the difference between me and about 90% of the band wagon fans on here, including you. I stick with my team through it all. If the Sooners were having a bad year, we wouldn't hear from Lennie Collins again. I'm not going anywhere. I was just a big a Tiger fan in 1998 when we were 3-8 as I was in 2004, when we were undefeated.
Bobby said:
posted on September 17, 2007 6:34 PM — 70.112.114.73 — link — abuse?
War Eagle #239..good post. I've said in several previous posts that UT is not a championship team,their offense is apparently easy to gameplan. The coaches are not getting all the talent out of the team. Now as soon as this posts Lennie or someone will come in and say that it's all excuses. Not only are they ou experts they are also UT experts. Tomcat I know exactly what your talking about I've attempted talking and it doesn't work. So I'll go down to their level..it's kinda fun to me. War Eagle...I wish I was blogging when ou was down I bet these guys were real quiet and every reason as to why they were bad was valid. And yes Lennie would not be heard from. Lennie ..lennie=delusional is not me. If I throw jabs with ya'll I'll do it under my name.
posted on September 17, 2007 6:49 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Thanks, Bobby. I just don't trifle with these adolescents on here who think they're being clever by rubbing it in on a team's loss. It's rather childish and it rates ZERO credibility with the guys on here who really know their football. That's what I like about this blog--it belongs, to the most part, to guys who seriously know their teams, conference, etc. We just tolerate the idiots until they decide to go away on their own.
For any of you who think I'm guilty of the same thing I'm criticizing you of, I challenge you to find ONE post on here, out of literally hundreds, where I've said something even resembling a trashing of a team, not just after a loss, but ever. Hell, even most of the Alabama fans who know me on here will vouch for me. I'm here to talk intelligent football and learn something about other teams. A little good-natured ribbing is in order, but this childish arguing is so boring.
Bobby said:
posted on September 17, 2007 7:19 PM — 70.112.114.73 — link — abuse?
WarE, when I first got on here I threw out some comments about ou fans. My comments were that ou fans were fanatical and that they ruin the threads. I've never talked trash about a team. Now I don't think I've posted a comment with UT in it without Lennie or the other ou stooges talking s!@#. Now every time I've said that one of them will say that I should go to another blog. Which brings me back to one of if not the very first comment I made on this blog. ou fans are over fanatical and for the most part drag down alot of threads because they really don't talk much football they just like to talk s!@# because ou is good again. I think when you constantly trash talk another team you discredit yourself IMO. I get on this blog atleast once a day and by far ou fans do more trash talking than any other fan base on this blog. Anyways I loved the 2004 Auburn team. Do you think with Saban being at Alabama that that will affect your instate recruiting.
OU-Ron said:
posted on September 17, 2007 9:07 PM — 72.198.24.199 — link — abuse?
@242 Bobby, if you don’t want any trash talking, keep your remarks directed to the person that you want them to go to, in the majority of your posts you say OU fans, now to me that means all OU fans, not just one. If you have a problem with lennie, then direct you comments to lennie, if with me, then to me, if it’s another OU fan, then to them, I’m sure any one of them will be glad to respond. I told you in an earlier post that you get as good as you give. In 242 you said OU fans were fanatical and ruin the threads, another example. Have you really read some of the remarks that the texas fanatics post on here. I told you before that you, I or no one else is going to change the smack talk between texas and OU. When I post something to you, I’m talking to you, not all the texas fans. I look at most of the comments as comical anyway, you take them too serious, lighten up, you might enjoy it. Just remember texas still sucks.
Ray Ray said:
posted on September 17, 2007 9:20 PM — 75.120.236.184 — link — abuse?
# 239 War Eagle Atlanta - This blog isn't about educating others to various teams and conferences. It's about smack talk. If you don't think so, read "Auburn is chump change" again. No useful info, just smack talk plain and simple.
You are one of those typical up tight, can't laugh about anything Auburn fans. No sense of humor at the "Lonely Village of The Plains".
If anyone's looking to spend some "peace and quite" this football season, visit Jordan Hare Stadium in the 4th quarter. Talk about good sleeping time!
Lennie Collins
posted on September 20, 2007 5:46 PM — 71.42.72.178 — link — abuse? said:
Hey Rammer Jammer I actually have one child. I am 39 years olds and been in the neighborhoods of Detriot, Boston, San Diego, Los Angeles, Houston and Dallas. I have never heard females referred to as Puddy Pie. I guess these new school names are too much for an old schooler like me.
Rammer Jammer said:
posted on September 20, 2007 5:56 PM — 199.89.170.92 — link — abuse?
Lennie
I understand...
You are still getting it twisted a little bit... It's not the females who are refered to as poodie pie.
uhhh how do I say this...It's a certain part of the female anatomy. There you go.
ROLL TIDE ROLL
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Kevin Donahue 
said:
posted on September 10, 2007 8:40 PM — link — abuse?I think it's a damn shame that South Florida didn't get into the top 25 (let alone the top 20). I think they showed more than just a fluke win at Auburn and deserve some credit. Shame.