September 16, 2007
Week 3 College Football Polls 2007
Week three college football polls for the 2007 season through September 16, 2007.
Associated Press College Football Top 25 Poll
1. USC (46) 2-0 1,605
2. LSU (19) 3-0 1,577
3. Florida 3-0 1,437
4. Oklahoma 3-0 1,434
5. West Virginia 3-0 1,388
6. California 3-0 1,232
7. Texas 3-0 1,169
8. Ohio State 3-0 1,142
9. Wisconsin 3-0 1,111
10. Penn State 3-0 1,041
11. Rutgers 3-0 956
12. South Carolina 3-0 814
13. Oregon 3-0 810
14. Boston College 3-0 792
15. Clemson 3-0 615
16. Alabama 3-0 516
17. Virginia Tech 2-1 458
18. Louisville 2-1 367
19. Hawaii 3-0 343
20. Texas A&M 3-0 342
21. Kentucky 3-0 338
22. Georgia 2-1 333
23. South Florida 2-0 285
24. Nebraska 2-1 277
25. Missouri 3-0 228
Others Receiving Votes
Arkansas 179, Georgia Tech 128, Arizona State 69, Cincinnati 53, UCLA 41, Texas Tech 16, Air Force 8, Purdue 6, Appalachian State 5, Florida State 5, Washington 2, Tulsa 1, Kansas 1, Michigan State 1.
Dropped From Rankings
UCLA 11, Georgia Tech 15, Arkansas 16, Tennessee 22.
USA Today College Football Coaches Poll
1. USC (44) 2-0 1,478
2. LSU (8) 3-0 1,438
3. Florida (7) 3-0 1,368
4. Oklahoma (1) 3-0 1,308
5. West Virginia 3-0 1,244
6. Texas 3-0 1,103
7. Wisconsin 3-0 1,098
8. California 3-0 1,093
9. Ohio State 3-0 1,062
10. Penn State 3-0 942
11. Rutgers 3-0 863
12. Boston College 3-0 754
13. Oregon 3-0 702
14. Clemson 3-0 595
14. South Carolina 3-0 595
16. Texas A&M 3-0 530
17. Virginia Tech 2-1 485
18. Hawaii 3-0 404
19. Louisville 2-1 383
20. Alabama 3-0 345
21. Georgia 2-1 271
22. Nebraska 2-1 228
23. Kentucky 3-0 168
24. South Florida 2-0 165
25. Missouri 3-0 145
Others Receiving Votes
Arkansas 143, Georgia Tech 143, Texas Tech 142, UCLA 122, Arizona State 67, Purdue 40, MICHIGANST 21, Cincinnati 20, Boise State 14, Florida State 7, Air Force 6, Tennessee 4, Washington 4.
Dropped From Rankings
UCLA 11, Georgia Tech 15, Arkansas 16, Tennessee 24.
Master Coaches Poll
1. Southern Cal (tie)
1. LSU (tie)
3. Florida
4. Oklahoma
5. West Virginia
6. California
7. Wisconsin
8. Penn State (tie)
8. Ohio State (tie)
10. Oregon
11. Texas
12. Boston College
13. Rutgers
14. Clemson
15. South Carolina
16. Alabama
17. Virginia Tech
18. Texas A&M
19. Georgia
20. Arkansas
21. Hawaii
22. Louisville
23. Georgia Tech
24. South Florida
25. Nebraska
Other teams receiving votes ... Missouri, Kentucky, Michigan State, Arizona State, Texas Tech, UCLA, Florida State, Cincinnati, Purdue, and Washington
Comments:
CUTotalTiger said:
posted on September 16, 2007 11:36 PM — 68.59.7.45 — link — abuse?
Kevin,
Virginia Tech is struggling to score. If you can not score you can not win. Louisville gives us 500 points per game. Georgia does not have a quality win. I thought the Okl. State game was, but after watching Troy kill them...Could be a long season for the dawgs.
We will find out this weekend about Georgia and Alabama. The Tide is a 4 point favorite.Regan said:
posted on September 16, 2007 11:50 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Kevin Donahue (#1):
Agreed. Alabama beat #16 Arkansas at home by 3 points; and that win came literally in the last 10 seconds of the game.
Is it now "you claim what you kill" in College Football? Why isn't Kentucky #9? :-)
I can't really complain about the AP, though, I need to be thankful that they didn't give Michigan a top 25 spot now that they finally beat a team. It seems the Wolverines are one team that the media can't ever stop hyping them up.
LOL even when they are 0-2 they still get all the attention in the world.
Thank you, Pollsters; thank you!
T-Mac said:
posted on September 16, 2007 11:54 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse?
Kev, no you aren't insane bro. T-Mac says this over the teams you chose to beat Alabama.
Alabama would smash Va Tech.
Alabama would take L-ville.
Hawaii-toss up?
Alabama would take Texas A&M.
Kentucky-toss up?
Georgia-toss up?
Alabama would smash South Florida.Let's not forget that Alabama faced the team with the potential Heisman Trophy winner!
D-Mac is the Dogg.
D-Mac toted the rock 34 times.
D-Mac could have toted it 44 times!
Mitch Mustain is a fool for leaving Arkansas!
With Mustain this season, the Hogs are top-10.
No doubt!
After the Bama/Arkansas game Sat nite, T-Mac has an opinion that Bama is a legitimate #16 team!
That being said, the Bama/Ga game should be off the hook this Saturday!
Alabama has a lot of talent!
T-Mac has been saying it all spring/summer.
Everybody saw it this past Sat nite!
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GO-Bears said:
posted on September 17, 2007 12:01 AM — 66.234.223.103 — link — abuse?
Cal has the best offense but ther D needs to get better. Im a die hard cal fan but i dont want them to get over confident with such a high ranking. If there a top 10 team there gonna have to beat oregan and ucla on the road. Do you guys think cla the real deal?
GO-Bears said:
posted on September 17, 2007 12:01 AM — 66.234.223.103 — link — abuse?
Cal has the best offense but ther D needs to get better. Im a die hard cal fan but i dont want them to get over confident with such a high ranking. If there a top 10 team there gonna have to beat oregan and ucla on the road. Do you guys think cla the real deal?
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on September 17, 2007 12:03 AM — 68.107.108.135 — link — abuse?
Alabama also looks ten times more disciplined already. You can see the system setting in over there and I definitely see them as a #16 team. The only thing I have an issue with is Louisville ahead of Kentucky. Kentucky proved they're better. They should be higher.
cock'n'fire south carolina 101 said:
posted on September 17, 2007 12:09 AM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
hey yo everybody how about them #12 gamecocks jumping the polls eh?
this is what im thinking
LA Lafayette, nothing special
Georgia, a helluva lot better win but still capable of more
SC State, may be a Div I championship subdivision team but they were still pretty good and a saw a whole lot more sc state fans at that game than i expected good win
LSU, they will step up and play their offense to its full potential and maybe even bring in the upset in baton rouge, i change my prediction to 51-42 south carolina on top...and im talking alot of defensive touchdowns
everybody go ahead and say im nuts
tidefanintn said:
posted on September 17, 2007 1:00 AM — 67.142.130.33 — link — abuse?
Polls are OK except:
My Tide should be around 20 with Ark just behind at 21. This was a very even game. Both teams put up 450 yds offense (with Bama being more balanced)so they should only have a slight edge in the polls.LSU over USC. (much better D)
Texas, Rutgers, Oregon, VT, Louisville, Texas A&M overrated
Cal & Penn ST underrated. Nevermind, these polls suck. They don't mean anything yet anyway.
roho said:
posted on September 17, 2007 3:58 AM — 75.120.236.184 — link — abuse?
It's amazing how fans see a game in different ways. I watched Alabama beat Arkansas and I watched the replay of the game tonight. I didn't see Alabama squeak out a win in the last :08. What I saw was a team not even in the top 25, go to work when it counted most.
The defense stopped Arkansas and forced a punt. With just over two minutes left on the clock, no time-outs and 73 yards away from the end zone, they executed the 2 minute drill to perfection. True, there was :08 left when they scored but they did everything that a well-coached team is supposed to do to win including excellent use of the clock. How can anyone find fault with an underdog team rising to the task at hand?
Seminole Jack said:
posted on September 17, 2007 8:06 AM — 66.147.117.53 — link — abuse?
Virginia Tech at 17 is extremely generous. They have played only one quality opponent and lost by 41 points.
The only reason they beat East Carolina is that they returned an interception for a touchdown and they were losing to Ohio late in the second quarter.
17 is a Joke.
BCS Fan Poll said:
posted on September 17, 2007 8:28 AM — 162.18.107.12 — link — abuse?
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gatorstud said:
posted on September 17, 2007 9:43 AM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
well, week 3 is over....my appologies to the trojans..i had them losing to nebraska....my bad.....
ohio state also proved me wrong with their win in washington....
and kentucky did what i thought they would do....outlast loiusville....
can't really disagree with the polls this week....florida jumped oklahoma & w. virginia.....but that was an impressive win against tennessee....old school beatdown.....
i like hawai at 21 but i do not understand alabama going to 16 in the coaches poll....
but it is just week 3
go gators...and hokies
Clemson Joe said:
posted on September 17, 2007 11:00 AM — 24.199.190.19 — link — abuse?
Why is Georgia ranked? They have beaten 2 very bad teams in Oklahoma State and Western Carolina. They lost their only game against an above average team. You give that same record with those opponents to Colorado State and they're lucky to be in the top 50. So nowadays if you're in the SEC you can just ride that right into the top 25, huh? Well then, why not throw Ole Miss in there too? Maybe we could rank them in the top 10 for their lone win; the impressive 2 point "spanking" of the perennial powerhouse Memphis. God bless, I hate the polls. I can't wait for teamrankings.com to update their rankings. At least computers aren't biased.
Lennie Collins said:
posted on September 17, 2007 11:12 AM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey Gatorstud...you don't have to apologize! Hey man I too picked Nebraska to beat Southern California. You and I thought Nebraska had a chance and they could not stop the run. We were wrong. You all here see what I am getting at. These polls are based upon popularity instead of who you play and how you play. Boston College beat a #15 ranked Georgia Tech on the road so ut fans do they deserve to be ranked ahead of ut? Of course not because the polls mean nothing to justify a teams unjust ranking but it means everything to back it? This system is terrible but it is the only one for now.
gatorstud said:
posted on September 17, 2007 3:10 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
is it me or was florida supposed to lose a a step because of all the talent that they lost to the nfl....at least that is what everyone was saying all summer.....well, we are in week three and it looks like florida picked up where they left off last year.....i know everyone is still high on lsu and usc....but, you have to take notice....
like i said..it is only week 3, but damn, my gators look good....
tebow looks impressive, his only interception this year wasn't his fault....so get ready nation....my gators are gearing up for a repeat.....
go gators...and hokies
Bobby said:
posted on September 17, 2007 3:22 PM — 128.83.241.110 — link — abuse?
Gatorstud...no doubt, I was one of the ones thinking UF would have a down year. Percy Harvin has a bad ankle and still blows by people. This college football season is looking great. LSU defense..UF offense or visa versa..great game.
TampaGator said:
posted on September 17, 2007 3:54 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Gatorstud:
From a very biased perspective...agreed!
Now our D has allowed a lot of points--but they are young. More importantly, though, they're showing crazy signs of potential!
...look out in '08!
As for this year--that LSU show down is looking more and more--what's the word...epic?
GO GATORS!!Cane Mutiny
posted on September 17, 2007 3:55 PM — 65.12.247.141 — link — abuse?
said:
This 1-AA teams in the polls thing is bullsh*t...how do pollsters actually bring themselves to vote for App. St. as one of the top 25 teams in the country? Not taking anything away from their big win, but please, beating Michigan isn't that impressive right now. I can think of dozens and dozens of unranked 1-A teams that would beat the 1-AA champs.
What I do love is how BAD Notre Dame is. Finally, those cocky-ass Irish have nothing to say. Do they realize that N tre ame (no offense, or defense, or anything), the team that's bigger than college football itself, just got blown out by a team that lost to someone from Division 1-AA?? AHAHAHAHAAAA
TampaGator said:
posted on September 17, 2007 4:13 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Atlien:
Been a while, bud. Obviously you're bitter about Spurrier continuing his stranglehold over UGA.
Suggestion: for holloween this year, you should dress up like a Gator fan--feel the power--besides, you might just get lucky in J'ville!
GO GATORS!!Bleed Crimson said:
posted on September 17, 2007 9:31 PM — 130.160.147.104 — link — abuse?
kevin donahue:
yes. you are insane.
alabama AND arkansas would HANDLE any team you mentioned above. ESPECIALLY hawaii. hawaii blows, louisville definitely blows, and miss st. gave lsu a much better game than va tech did. oh, and didnt south florida need OT to beat the second worst team in the SEC??? in my mind, alabama AND arkansas are both top 15 teams. arkansas is absolutely rediculous on offense, but were a little better on both sides of the ball. i think youll see as the season wears on, that arkansas will give anybody they play, absolute hell. houston nutt has one of the most tricky and unique offensive schemes i have ever witnessed, making them nearly impossible to defend.
i dont think its that much of a down year for the SEC like everyone else does, i just think different teams are stepping up this year.my SEC rankings as of week 3:
Florida
LSU
Alabama
Arkansas
Tennessee
South Carolina
Georgia
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Mississippi State
Auburn
Ole MissBleed Crimson said:
posted on September 17, 2007 9:38 PM — 130.160.147.104 — link — abuse?
kevin donahue:
im actually amazed that the voters placed rutgers and texas ahead of alabama. haha, i mean can you honestly see RUTGERS coming in to tuscaloosa and not getting beat by 30??
bryant-denny would probably be the biggest and loudest stadium theyve ever played in. i mean, you just dont see 94,000 fans at a big east game do you? maybe half that?
Bleed Crimson said:
posted on September 17, 2007 9:39 PM — 130.160.147.104 — link — abuse?
kevin donahue:
im actually amazed that the voters placed rutgers and texas ahead of alabama. haha, i mean can you honestly see RUTGERS coming in to tuscaloosa and not getting beat by 30??
bryant-denny would probably be the biggest and loudest stadium theyve ever played in. i mean, you just dont see 94,000 fans at a big east game do you? maybe half that?am i insane?
Bobby said:
posted on September 17, 2007 9:59 PM — 70.112.114.73 — link — abuse?
Bleed Crimson #33. Do you sound crazy..no. I think you getting ahead of yourself. Rutgers was ranked all last year as well was UT. Alabama looks good but so do alot of teams. This is the first time in a long while that Alabama looks legitimate. Some people on here might think it's crazy that Alabama was outside the top 25 and now they're 16. I think it's good lovin' myself. It seems with the polls that teams have to earn their way in and earn their way out...loses are the way out..not dominating but winning will just make you lose a spot or two.
Cock'n'Fire South Carolina 101 said:
posted on September 17, 2007 11:04 PM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
post 31 bleed crimson
ok i understand LSU and Florida at the top but how the f--- do you get tennessee and arkansas in front of south carolina and kentucky? i dont think alabama even deserves to be in front of south carolina but thats from an alabama fan so ill give you the botd but still look at tennessee and arkansas and then look at south carolina and kentucky
also post 19 clemson joe
thats only true about the teams that have a past of winning alot of games...south carolina had a 4 game winning streak going into week 2 and they were unranked and they are in the sec and it took beating uga to get into the top 25 and georgia didnt loose to a bad team because that so called team has a 5 game winning streak headed to LSU and one of those game was against clemson
rolltidebama0125 said:
posted on September 17, 2007 11:35 PM — 74.183.175.60 — link — abuse?
kevin donahue (post #1):
yes,u r insane...do u honestly believe that Va tech, Louisville, hawaii, texas a&m, kentucky, Goergia, or south florida could possibly stop our offense which consists of in my opinion the greatest recieving corp in america(DJ hall,matt caddell,keith brown,mike mccoy,will oakley, nikita stover,etc.)or a very under estimated running game(terry grant,who has won the SEC freshman of the week honor for the 3rd week in a row,,,or jimmy johns,our power back who was mr. football in mississippi, or glen coffee who is a very overlooked back),John Parker Wilson is very streaky yet a good clutch/well coached QB
.......And i kno that none of these teams could do ANYTHING against our defense(the same defense that held darren mcfadden and felix jones under 100 yrds before our anchor darren mustin was injured in the 3rd quarter)we make stops when need be,period....we have a good defensive line that penetrates well with two great ends in wallace Gilberry and Bobby Greenwood, a decent secondary lead by none other then simeon castille(who had weak charges against him this offseason),and our linebackers being darren mustin,rolando mcclain(freshman destined to be all american senior season),prince hall(freshman all american last yr),or Zeke knight who is jut downright good.
...also,,our special teams would own any of these teasm as long as we have javier arenas returning the ball who has brang the ball back within the two in 3 straight games. and we have a decent kicker in Leigh Tiffin and also jamie christensen who is CLUTCH.
...and the two most important reason these teams could not beat us and we deserve to be ranked 16 is a good coach(NICK SABAN)and a good coaching staff who has our team very disciplined,poised,tough, and ready to play some ball....we aslo recruit well.....and OUR FANS,,,just ask any opposing team how it feels to hAVE 93,000 DEDICATED fans screaming their lungs out at u...>>>yes i know that was a little sloppy but give me a break,im a 14 yr old kid,haha...ty for reading
T-Mac said:
posted on September 18, 2007 12:10 AM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse?
Cock On Fire, T-Mac agrees with you on Tenn not being in front of SC or Kentucky.
For that matter, T-Mac wouldn't put Tenn in front of anybody in the SEC at this point!
Rocky Top has some major problems!!!
Yes, Alabama is the 3rd best team in the SEC right now behind LSU and Florida.
Sure, SC is ranked higher in the polls than Bama, but we know how the game would go if Bama and SC played. Steve Spurrier is probably very glad SC and Bama don't play each other.
Now, that being said, Arkansas wins against SC and Kentucky.
Cock On Fire, T-Mac just isn't sold on Blake Mitchell...yet.
T-Mac thinks that SC looked very good against Ga though.
SC is only 2nd in the SEC East to FL right now.
T-Mac still thinks Ga is a good team though.
T-Mac says that SC beats Tenn and Kentucky.
Cock On Fire, who's to say that if Florida slips up that SC doesn't wind-up in the SEC Champ Game?
It is possible.
Florida is playing very well now.
South Carolina is as well.
T-Mac has LSU/Florida in the SEC Champ game.
Cock On Fire, who know's???
It could wind up being Alabama/SC in the SEC Champ game if they take care of business!!!
Stranger things have happened.
T-Mac would LOVE to see a Saban/Spurrier matchup!!!
The 2 most DEVILISH MINDS in all of College Football there!!!
Wouldn't get any better than that.
T-Mac says this Cock On Fire, the only games SC loses this year are to LSU,Arkansas, and Florida.
9-3 is a good season.
Depending on what Florida does the rest of the way, things could bounce in the Gamecocks favor!
You never know!
T-Mac sends a shout out to Cock On Fire and all his Doggs on Fanblogs!!!
*T-Mac approved this message.
Clemson Joe said:
posted on September 18, 2007 12:38 AM — 24.168.208.54 — link — abuse?
Cock'n'fire (#35):
In response to your quote, "georgia didnt loose to a bad team".
Quoted from my post #19:"They lost their only game against an above average team. " (Speaking of Georgia)
This means that the only team that is even above average that Georgia has played is SC, and they lost. I didn't say anything about SC except that they are above average. I did not specify them as being barely above average, or well above average. I did not call them bad. Calm down.
Cock'n'Fire South Carolina 101 said:
posted on September 18, 2007 12:46 AM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
good post t-mac
i would love to see spurrier/saban in the sec championship too but i dont want us to play bama this yeer not because i think we will loose but because i dont want us to have to play them twice if they make it all the way...and i think florida at home will be a win come on man just think about it...2005 close game south carolina won because of home feild advantage...2006 close game florida won because of home feild advantage...and im thinking we will beat florida in a close one this year with home feild advantage...thats how i think it will be working here in the spurrier era...home feild advantage can really turn around the games however beating clemson at clemson was great close one...after the lsu game i will have my prediction as to how our season will go...if we beat them then i have to say i think we will go 12-0 but if we loose then maybe 2 or 3 loss season...my other predictions arkansas sc will win good but the kentucky arkansas game will be a close one...however this is my top 12 in the sec
1st LSU
2nd Florida
3rd South Carolina
3rd Alabama
3rd Kentucky
6th Arkansas
6th Miss State
8th Georgia
9th Vanderbilt
10th Tennessee
10th Auburn
10th Ole MissCock'n'Fire South Carolina 101 said:
posted on September 18, 2007 12:50 AM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
post 42 clemson joe
well i just thought u were making it sound like we didnt have a good program going uphill here...if i could see ur expressions maybe id understand what u say better however i think a 6 game winning streak is pretty damn good
Bleed Crimson said:
posted on September 18, 2007 2:36 AM — 130.160.147.104 — link — abuse?
cock'n'fire:
your SEC rankings are skewed.
you give Miss. St. wayy too much credit in their win over Auburn. if you watched the game, you would know that both teams are GOD-AWFUL this season. verry sloppy football.EVERYONE is making the mistake of over-rating Kentucky. sure, theyve got a MUCH better team than they usually do, but i dont think theyre any better than Vanderbilt during Jay Cutler's senior year. They beat Louisville. so could just about any team in the SEC. they just dont have the talent to support their QB. much like the Jay Cutler scenario.
For me, the verdict is still out on Tennessee. ive gotta wait until they play an average SEC team to judge them. theyve lost to California , and to the best team in the SEC. all im sayin is, dont go puttin Tennessee next to Auburn just yet. wait until they lose to Miss St.
With South Carolina, i honestly just cant picture them going into Neyland Stadium in front of over 100,000 fans, to play tennessee, and come out with a win. i just cant see it. sorry. theyre well coached, they have above average talent, but just not any of that top-notch talent youll find at the better SEC programs. (Tennessee, Florida, LSU, Alabama). I would love to see SC play Arkansas. that would be interesting.
Gatorboy 40 said:
posted on September 18, 2007 2:54 AM — 138.163.160.43 — link — abuse?
Post 21, 22, 23
Bobby, Gatorstud, Tampa gator,,,The Offense is hitting on all eight cylinders, however the defense scared me the hell out of me at times. LSU, will expose them even more, so will Spurrier. We did not have 1 QB SACK all game, never got near the QB. The question may come down to, can we out score everybody. Regardless of how bad UA, UGA, MISS, VANDY, SOUTH C, and FL-ST may look, you can bet, that they will bring their A-Game against Fl. We were a much better team last year, and still had our problems. We won convincinly against Tenn last week, but they still scored alot of points. Spurrier is 3-0 as well, but with less talent. I'm a DIE HARD GATOR, born in G-ville Fl. But that damn D needs to step it up,,,,,Hell I don't see no team going undefeated this year, at least not in the big league (Div-1). I think Oklahoma has the most favorable schedule to do it, if it happens.Gatorboy 40 said:
posted on September 18, 2007 3:14 AM — 138.163.160.43 — link — abuse?
T-Mac Post 41,,,Big Dog, thanks for the compliment, but how do you say Fl is playing very well, when they gave up 20 points, on an adverage team. Believe me you, we have some cloudy days ahead, hell I hope we do blow right through the schedule, but when you are the defending NC, the weakest teams will play their asses off to take you out, just so they can get some media time. For example,,,(Vandy takes out the defending NC, FL Gators). Unlikely, but they will come to play,,,,,BELIEVE IT!!!!!! I just don't have a warm fuzzy about our D, hopefully Charlie Strong is addressing this issue as we speak.
Bleed Crimson said:
posted on September 18, 2007 3:40 AM — 130.160.147.104 — link — abuse?
sorry. more venting about the polls. i get madder every time i see them
look at this horse s--- that is the college football world today:#5 West Virginia - they beat western michigan, marshall, and maryland by 17. wow. impressive.
#7 Texas - they barely beat arkansas STATE by 8, beat Texas Christian, and snuck away from Central effing Florida by 3. hahahahaha
#11 Rutgers - theyve beat buffalo, navy by 17, and norfolk effing state! hahahaha. wow.
#15 Clemson - they barely held off FSU by 6, they beat LA Monroe, and Furman. hahaha
#17 Virginia Tech - they snuck past east carolina by 10, held off Ohio (not State) by 21 points, and only lost by 41 to LSU to earn this ranking. hahaha
#18 Louisville - they beat murray state, middle tennessee state by 16, and only lost to SEC bottom-feeder, KENTUCKY by 6. hahahahahaha
#19 Hawaii - they beat northern colorado, they luckily beat Louisiana Tech by 3 in overtime, and beat the University of Nevada in Las Vegas. hahaha. this team will likely go undefeated and be "cheated" out of the title. their only "tough" game is against Washington.
#20 Texas A&M - they beat montana state, won the slugfest against fresno state by 2, AND beat louisiana monroe!!! hahahaha
#23 South Florida - this team not only was able to hold off ELON by 18, they also beat the 2nd worst team in the SEC in overtime!!!
So who got the shaft??
Arkansas - this team was just a little worse than Alabama. but instead of being in the top 20, they drop out of the poll all together, to make room for South Florida hahaha.Tennessee - They lost to the #6 and #3 teams in the country, and got kicked out of the polls.
KENTUCKY - even though they proved Louisville sucks the big one by beating them, it still wasnt enough to convince the voters that they were the better team and that the second best team in the Big East blows.
I'm sick of all these weak a-- schedules around the country. try playing in the SEC:
LSU - beat VT by 41 and MSU by 45
Florida
Alabama
Arkansas
Kentucky - beat the #2 team in the "big" east
Ole Miss
Vanderbilt
Georgia
South Carolina
Mississippi State - beat Auburn in regular time
Auburn - lost to USF in OT
TennesseeI'll try and put it in perspective:
LSU beat Mississippi State by 45 who beat Auburn who lost to #23 USF in OTbasically, according to the polls, possibly the WORST team in the SEC lost to the #23 team in OT. so, should all SEC teams be in the top 25?? i think they should before Hawaii, Louisville, Rutgers, or South Florida is.
wveersfan said:
posted on September 18, 2007 11:21 AM — 216.230.70.238 — link — abuse?
#48.......The reason for the rankings of teams YOU don't feel belong is because of preseason rankings, which you know. That said, the SEC has been the biggest benefactor of those preseason rankings for many years, worthy or not. So, don't complain when teams you don't feel worthy are there now. Just because Rutgers or WVU or USF haven't beaten a ranked team doesn't mean that they can't or wouldn't. The Big East has 5 ooc games to secure each year, something you don't have to worry about. Many of the "big boys" don't want to play us because they don't want to take a chance (a la USF vs. Auburn) of losing. I guess if we beat Auburn next fall it will be because they are down, huh? Well, I thought the SEC just reloaded, not rebuilt?
So what if Rutgers or WVU are still ranked high? We had great seasons last year, have lots of returning players and deserve to be, plus they haven't lost yet. In fact, WVU lost a spot to OU because OU took a very mediocre Miami team to the woodshed, but you don't hear me complaining. And USF beat Auburn in OT. You make it sound like no big feat but we're talking about a 10 year old team (7 in D1-A) beat what YOU claim to be the 2nd worst team in the conference, in their house in front of 80k + screaming fans. That's a big win for an up and coming program. Just because you guys have been there, down downgrade milestone wins by teams that are not in the SEC.
Face it, parity is on the move and there aren't enough schollies in the SEC to hold all of the great players. They will go elsewhere, they will win and the world will catch up with the SEC. Your bark is becoming worse than your bite with each passing year. Except for UF and LSU, the SEC is just another face in the crowd. Also, don't forget, the Spread Offense will NEVER work in the SEC, with it's elite athletes and tremendous speed compared to every other league......lol.
Alabama will be fine on the field, as they have sold their souls to again have what Bear had. Trouble is, there were about 10 programs capable of beating them then.....there are over 50 now. Just don't expect the CFB world to bow down after your win vs. D-Mac and put you in the Top 5. There is a lot of football to be played.
Trust me, Alabama will be ranked high preseason 2008 whether they deserve it or not. Your league gets more benefit of the doubt and exposure and praise and awe than any other conference, so please you are making me sick by complaining in any way, shape or form.
cock'n'fire south carolina 101 said:
posted on September 18, 2007 6:06 PM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
post 45 bleed crimson,
dood i went to neyland stadium in 2003 during the demetris summers era and watched us loose in overtime and a game that goes to overtime means nobody will probly leave and 1/4 of the stadium just about was gamecocks at that game so dont give too much credit on the home feild advantage...however last year at ben hill griffin stadium only about 1/8 of the stadium was gamecocks and that place was loud after the blocked kick...i can see a win over tennessee better then i can see a win over arkansas at fayetteville because our band isnt even going to arkansas much less most of the fans...and next week at lsu will be by far the toughest game of the year and if we pull it off then thats it i think our season is set...the band wont be going to lsu either not very many tickets were sold to us for lsu however i did manage to get 9 because people didnt wanna travel that far...but my point remains u cant take home feild advantage too much into play
Zac said:
posted on September 18, 2007 10:40 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Bleed Crimson (Post 48), you seem to take issue with all these lowly teams ranked higher than AL, yet, what has AL done, not to mention what will they do? You wanna talk about weak schedules?
Try this one on for size:W Carolina, Vanderbilt, GA, FSU, Houston, MS, MS St, LA Monroe, and (since you yourself don't think much of them) Auburn.
That's 9 of the 12 teams you play. I don’t see a ranked team on that list. They currently have a combined 11-15 record. In fact, your current schedule, including LSU, boasts a combined record of 16-18. Yes, some had been ranked, but what was it you said about some of the teams on the schedules of those you listed in your post?
Now admittedly, I was impressed with how your team took control over AR, from the get-go. (Hell, I'm still impressed with the 90,000 that showed up for spring ball.) That having been said, this game was at home and your team almost let it slip away.
So, please, don't demean yourself by blubbering over where AL is ranked, as opposed to WVU who is ranked higher having only beaten MD in their house, who is arguably capable of beating AL or AR.
As for S FL, the team that won AT Auburn, I don't suppose Bamma will be scheduling them anytime soon. No, your boys would rather play LA Monroe or W Carolina. (Betcha Marshall or W MI could each beat both of those.) Tell ya what; lets compare notes after our teams have played MS St. At least then we'll have some common ground to work with. Till then, not that with AL's schedule they'll need a lot of it, but best of luck all the same.
OU-Ron
posted on September 19, 2007 4:13 PM — 216.201.209.146 — link — abuse? said:
Tomcat, do you want to change your prediction on the Tulsa game, you're now 0 & 3. Texas should be able to get back to form this week with Rice, it's shaping up to be a great game between the Sooners and Texas in October.
Go OwlsRammer Jammer said:
posted on September 19, 2007 6:11 PM — 199.89.170.92 — link — abuse?
Zac
hhhmmm Maryland would beat Bama and Arkansas. Yeah right!!!!LOL
Am I reading your post correctly? You are a W. Virginia fan and you are taking issue with Bama's schedule.
I'm not saying I agree with Bleed Crimson's post. I'm just taking issue with a few of the comments you made towards Bama's schedule.
Besides USF, who else does W. Virginia really play. Louisville, Rutgers... I don't think so. Arguably, neither one of those teams would win more than 2 games in the SEC.
So good luck USF this year, other than that I don't see one bit of trouble on your schedule.
Zac said:
posted on September 19, 2007 9:09 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Rammer Jammer, keep em laughing, I always say. Now, I may not be Charlie Chaplin or George Carlen, but, as you can see, I'm still good for a chuckle or two. That having been said, re-read my post. I didn't say MD "would" beat AL & AR, though I believe MD to be more than capable. I said, "…who is arguably capable of beating AL or AR." Now, you can interpret that any way you want. But, if Utah can beat UCLA as badly as they did, BC can go to GA and beat GA Tech, or Mid TN can practically keep up with Louisville, MD is capable of beating AL or AR.
I already know MD can beat W Carolina, LA Monroe, Vanderbilt, Houston, MS, & MS St. Since FSU apparently hasn't improved as much as I expected, MD could win that one too. GA has revealed enough kinks in their armor to be vulnerable. Auburn…apparently this isn't their year. Cincy, Louisville, Rutgers, S FL, even Pitt might be just as successful against the same schedule AL plays this year.
My point isn't who would actually beat who, because I honestly don't know. I'm no better at guessing that than any of the guys on this thread. My point, Rammer, is Bleed Crimson's audacity at scoffing other team's schedules, when AL's schedule is arguably the weakest in the SEC. Hell, that schedule is weak for teams from other conferences. Other than LSU, AR, & TN, who do they play? Even TN has proven to be none too special. Though, to be honest, I don't expect that trend to continue.
That you may or may not agree with any of this is hardly relevant. This thread, being what it is, Crimson posted his opinion; I posted mine; you posted yours. Before this season's over, we'll have posted lots more. Enjoy!!!
cock'n'fire south carolina 101 said:
posted on September 19, 2007 9:55 PM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
post 57 zac
dood what i think he is trying to say as yeh they are capable of beating those sec teams...but 98% of the time they couldnt beat more than a few of those teams in the same yeer...thats whats tough about the SEC...u face teams that you can beat but u face so many tough teams that u cant manage to beat them all in the same yeer...thats why you see stuff like last yeer where you see kentucky beat georgia and georgia beat auburn and auburn beat florida and florida beat tennessee and tennessee beat south carolina and south carolina beat kentucky...you see they are capable but in the big east you already can beat just about them all like say west virginia can stomp all the teams in the big east and have trouble with louisville and rutgers
cock'n'fire south carolina 101 said:
posted on September 19, 2007 9:56 PM — 96.10.98.113 — link — abuse?
post 57 zac
dood what i think he is trying to say as yeh they are capable of beating those sec teams...but 98% of the time they couldnt beat more than a few of those teams in the same yeer...thats whats tough about the SEC...u face teams that you can beat but u face so many tough teams that u cant manage to beat them all in the same yeer...thats why you see stuff like last yeer where you see kentucky beat georgia and georgia beat auburn and auburn beat florida and florida beat tennessee and tennessee beat south carolina and south carolina beat kentucky...you see they are capable but in the big east you already can beat just about them all like say west virginia can stomp all the teams in the big east and have trouble with louisville and rutgers
TE
posted on September 19, 2007 10:22 PM — 70.180.45.10 — link — abuse? said:
TE says that T-Mac can't say with a straight face-in the third or first person-that Florida's defense has been tested by the crummy teams its faced liked Troy & (Yes) Tennessee...
It's defense is suspect, at best...It gave up 30+ points to those two teams, and an efficient offense with the runblocking like LSU is in possession of right now is going to steamroll that team the same way they steamrolled Phil "Dead Man Walking" (To the Krispy Kreme) Fulmer...
Florida's offense hasn't faced anything-on PS2, PS#, or even on Nintendo Wii-like it will go up against when it faces off against LSU.
They will get their issue. LSU's defense will make that offense look like a doorknob after the game...Everyone will have had their turn...
LSU by 14+...
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on September 20, 2007 1:14 AM — 68.107.108.135 — link — abuse?
Bleed,
#50 is right. There is still too much football to be played. I'll tell you what though if Kentucky, Alabama, FLA, South Carlolina, and LSU keep playing the way they are they will not be denied top ten spots by seasons end. That's domination!
TE,
Eye of the Tiger wants to know what score you got for the South Car./LSU game this weekend. I already know what Cock-n-Fire thinks.
Clemson Joe said:
posted on September 20, 2007 2:21 AM — 24.168.208.54 — link — abuse?
Eye of the Tiger (#62):
South Carolina has no passing game. Spurrier himself has admitted it. I could be wrong but I see it as 38-10 Tigers.
Quote from "The State" newspaper, Columbia, SC:
Spurrier wants his team to know this game will not doom its chances of playing for the SEC title.LSU is riding winning streaks of 15 games at home and 10 games overall. The Tigers, who have outscored their 2007 opponents 137-7, have the nation's top-ranked defense, allowing 128.3 yards and 2.3 points a game.
"If something happens that we get — that it doesn't work out — we've got Mississippi State. We've got Kentucky. We've got Vanderbilt. We've got a whole bunch of teams coming up that we match up pretty evenly with," Spurrier said. "You always coach one game at a time. But in the back of your mind, you sort of mentally got to say, 'We're not going to be devastated if it doesn't work out.'
T-Mac
posted on September 20, 2007 3:20 AM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse? said:
post 61. TE, who has LSU played.....yet???
You choose to downgrade Florida!!!
Who has LSU beaten???
VA Tech...get real Dogg.
T-Mac is sayin that LSU looks good.
Especially on Defense.
T-Mac is sayin that FL looks good .
Especially on Offense and Defense.
Tebow has well exceeded expectations!
T-Mac likes the FL special teams as well.
TE, T-Mac knows for a fact that Football is got done on a football field and not in a video game!!!
TE, You mention playstation VIDEO GAMES in your post bro.This Fanblogs is a website about COLLEGE FOOTBALL.
This has NOTHING to do with sitting in front of a TV and playing a video game.
If you think that is what Football is all about...you either are very young or very uneducated on a sport called Football.
You called out Florida.
Once again, T-Mac asks you, Who has LSU beaten???
VA Tech???
Cmon.
Since you bring video games into a CFB discussion T-Mac doesn't even know why he chose to address this.
That being said, Florida looks very good at this point.
Florida lost 9 STARTERS from a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP DEFENSE!
Florida is 3-0 at this point.
Florida is the reigning National Champs!!!
Come wit it all you want.
Til a team beats em, Florida is TOP DOGG!!!
T-Mac says that in the third person.
T-Mac will say that to any person.
T-Mac speaks volumes!!!
*T-Mac approved this message.
gatorstud said:
posted on September 20, 2007 9:01 AM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
wveersfan #50...your post has a lot of validity on the depth of the talent pool around the country....i have never been a fan of ranking high school athletes...it's ridiculous....back twenty five years or so ago the top tier athletes went to the big schools.....nowadays there are so many talented athletes that the "trickle down" affect is helping the smaller schools..so the "appl. states" of the world aren't going to lay down for the big guys anymore....these athletes know that they can go to a smaller school, get the same kind of scholorship and could potentially walk right into a starting role instead of sitting on a bench for two or three years at a larger college......
good valid post.....
pre-season rankings are a joke.....they shouldn't be allowed...
let me ask everyone here......if there were no pre-season poll and you had to vote today...who would your top five be....
mine are
1. fla
2. usc
3. lsu
4. w. virg.
5. oklah.now think about this....florida won the championship last year.....is on a 9 or 10 game win streak......and just thumped tennessee (without a ranking we really don't know how good tenn. really is)....do you honestly think at this time....that lsu and usc should be ahead of florida.....yeah, florida lost players..a lot....but the players that are still there should have an opportunity to defend their #1 ranking from the end of last year....now i'm not saying that usc and lsu aren't better teams...but at this time...can anyone actually say that lsu and usc are plying better than florida RIGHT NOW......i think not.....
jmho
go gators....and hokies
Rammer Jammer said:
posted on September 20, 2007 10:05 AM — 199.89.170.92 — link — abuse?
Zac
"I already know MD can beat W Carolina, LA Monroe, Vanderbilt, Houston, MS, & MS St. Since FSU apparently hasn't improved as much as I expected, MD could win that one too."
We will find out if Maryland can beat FSU. As for the other ones, we will never know. However, IMO I don't think MD could beat Vanderbilt, Houston, or MS ST.
Also IMO, the only team you listed that could probably do just as good with Bama's schedule would be USF.
Maybe you misunderstood my post. I'm not trashing the BE. I take issue with you calling Bama's schedule "arguably the weakest in the conference." If that's the case, list all of the other schedules in the SEC that you think are tougher, and don't forget to list why.
As I said before, the only game W Virginia fans have to worry about is USF. None of the other ones impress me at all.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention this; What about that Noel Devine? That kid is IMPRESSIVE. Wow he is fast!!!! As long as he stays healthy and out of trouble, he is going to have one heck of a career.
Lennie Collins
posted on September 20, 2007 12:43 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse? said:
Hey OU Ron...What's going on man. I don't let what Bobby or Tomcat say bother me. Tomcat has been ranting on that OU is going to lose to North Texas, Miami, Utah State, and now Tulsa. They all resulted in BLOWOUT wins for OU so far so like James Brown would say to Tomcat...PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE keep it going cause I like the end results! Bobby is quick to say let's get back to talking football but he starts the non-sense talking right up afterwards. ut had one excellent half of football FACT, FACT, FACT. Yes ut is 3-0 but that's basically all Bobby has to talk about is that great half of football against TCU. BY the way OU-Ron it looks like OU will be adding TCU to their schedule next year & 2009. I bet you TCU will now be a sorry team. They were great when they played ut but now they aren't! So enjoy the game and be cool!
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on September 20, 2007 1:29 PM — 138.163.0.44 — link — abuse?
Clemson Joe,
Post 63, At least Spurrier knows what he's up against. He always speaks what he feels, huh? That's why I think alot of teams should be scared when in a couple of years he announces proudly that he is ready to compete for a NC. Anyway, I like your prediction and I pretty much see the same.Gatorstud,
FLA is looking very impresive right now (offensively). I won't give them full credit for the thumping in TENN be/c I believe the game was closer than the score displayed. I don't buy into the whole, keep your starters in until the clock says 0, even when your up by 20. That's one reason why i was never impressed with USC's wins in the past. Now it's looking like Carroll is actually playing smarter and classier football by giving his whole team experience in games that are obviously won. Any how, my ranking which includes depth, offense and defense, looks like this:
1.) USC
2.) LSU
3.) FLA
4.) OU
5.) WVUReally, I think it could be a toss up between FLA and LSU, but I believe LSU's defense put them over the edge thus far.
TE
posted on September 20, 2007 1:39 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
T-Mac,
Once again, you prove easy pickings...
I didn't mention it in terms of any sort've valid comparison. You & I both know I meant it in terms of hyperbole. NOBODY on Planet Earf save for maybe a few squads in the League have got a defense as fearsome as the Bayou Bengals this year.
FACT
Florida lost 9 starters off their defense, and got 30+ points hung on them by two also-ran, punk teams in UT & Troy.
FACT
LSU has given up 7 points against a conference team (MSU) with a win over AU at AU, as well as a Virginia Tech team that was Top 10 at the time, and is still 2-1 and ranked in the Top 25 as well.
FACT
LSU's offense put up points on a Virginia Tech team that has a legit defense...Xavier Adibi, Vince Hall, Flowers, and their other corner are all legit NFL caliber athletes, and that defense is legit as well. It lead the nation the previous two years it was on the field, and we shredded it for two yards shy of SIX HUNDY.
FACT
LSU's defense throttled a MTSU squad that put 40 points up on Louisville, whom a lot of people (myself NOT included) considered a Top 10, national title contender.
FACT
LSU's defense is giving up 123 per game...We're so far ahead of our nearest conference foe (Georgia) in that statistic, we could actually DOUBLE that average per game, and still be in 1st place by a comfortable margin.
FACT
LSU is far and away the most impressive team in this conference, and has proven it against FAR more impressive talent than a lame duck Fulmer lead UT squad that's given up 104 points so far against ranked opponents on the road this season, or a sorry Troy team that hung 31 points on UF's "allegedly impressive" defense.
What legit defense has Florida faced? Tell me about them...
In the words of Katt Williams...Don't worry...I'll wait...
LSU will pound South Carolina, and they will annihalate all comers on their schedule...Including your precious Crimson Tide...Just don't bite down...err...cry into your pillow too much.
Jessica Parker Wilson and the Gossip Girls in Bama are no match for LSU...and Luther Van Davis and the gang will stare from the sidelines as we beat you in Bama yet again...remaining undefeated in Tuscaloser during the new millenium...
Class dismissed...
TE
posted on September 20, 2007 1:44 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Eye Of The Tiger,
My guess this weekend is 31-7.
If Perrilloux takes over at QB at or before 7:30 in the 3rd quarter, then it's 41-7...
USC doesn't enter into the redzone in the 2nd half...
Blake Mitchell continues a tradition amongst starting quarterbacks who face the 2007 LSU Defense by not finishing the game...
OU-Ron
posted on September 20, 2007 2:02 PM — 216.201.209.146 — link — abuse? said:
Lennie, Tomcat and Bobby are really pretty good guy’s, they get carried away sometimes just as we do. Talking smack between OU and texas will never end, just keep it comical and not personal and we will all have some fun. I think you said on another post that OU was favored by 32 over Tulsa, I think it is actually 22. Enjoy the game tomorrow.
Go Sooners
Rammer Jammer said:
posted on September 20, 2007 2:54 PM — 199.89.170.92 — link — abuse?
TE
With all of the smack you have talked this year; I hope for your sake LSU doesn't stumble.
BTW- Week 6 7 and 8 looks pretty tough for LSU. Maybe you should get past them before you start looking ahead to Bama.
Jessica Parker Wilson LOL!! Now that's original.
ROLL TIDE
Lennie Collins
posted on September 20, 2007 3:01 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse? said:
Hey OU Ron I will say it over and over again...I do not dislike Bobby, Tomcat, or War Eagle Atlanta. As far as I know they could be the best friends a guy could have or the worst enemies a person could know. I don't know them as people. I just think it's bizzare when Tomcat goes off on these rants about OU it's comedy BUT when I go off on rants about ut I am a low self esteem person who thinks there is a "CONSPIRACY" against OU. If a non-bias person goes back and read all my threads he or she will see I never said or hinted that. I did say USC, texas, and the SEC gets a lot of love than most teams. I went off on Bobby and War Eagle cause I was tried of them coming with jokes BUT then again their teams are doing that hot so I should have been ready for it. I was wrong and I should not have went off on them. I apologize for it. If they want to call names and make jokes go ahead because they HAVE TO because their teams are not doing that well. If I am wrong then I am wrong. I will apologize and move on. I don't need to thrash Auburn or texas to get points across. I sure that War Eagle Atlanta, Bobby, or Tomcat does not have to either. Take care and Enjoy the game.
posted on September 20, 2007 3:45 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
No, Lennie, the next Auburn-trashing thred. No harm. All in good fun.
It was somewhat surprising to me at how much pent-up anti-Auburn sentiment there was out there waiting to be released as soon as we started to have a down year. We might expect it from Bama fans, but the rant from the Gator blogger was out of line. Some people have an extreme dislike for a team even though their fellow fans consider the rivalry to be civilized and respectful.
I've always respected the Gators, even though all my friends in school were from the state of Florida and hated them. And I've had reasons to not like them--like getting pelted with cups and bottles at Florida Field after Kerwin Bell engineered a 4th quarter comeback in 1986 after we were up 16-0 after three quarters. If it weren't for the cool people I met that weekend, I might still not like them.
It is, however, a shame that no one pelts the Gators with oranges any more when they come running out as the visitors. It had quite an impression on me as a 17 year old freshman in 1985 when everyone in the Auburn student section threw oranges as the Gators came running out of the visitors tunnel. However, when I came loaded for bear two years later, I was literally the only one throwing oranges. I still have the video tape from the ESPN broadcast where one of my oranges comes within about 5 feet of clocking Galen Hall. Had I hit him, Auburn might have let me play quarterback... :-)
OU-Ron
posted on September 20, 2007 4:56 PM — 216.201.209.146 — link — abuse? said:
War Eagle, Your comments about the oranges bring back memories of the Big 8, usually the last game of the season was between OU and Nebraska on Thanksgiving day and the winner of that game went on to play in the Orange Bowl, when the game was over, the fans from the winning team would throw oranges on to the field and usually wound up in other places that they shouldn’t be in, but hey, it was a tradition.
TE
posted on September 20, 2007 5:20 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
I think the difference between myself and others is that my track record here states I don't run from a loss...Ask any Florida fan that was here back in 2003...I was still posting-and contributing-after that loss, and I'll be around if we do again...
I'm sorry, but if watched this team in Tiger Stadium and in Starkvegas like I did, you'd have plenty of reasons to feel confident...
I think you'll also note that Kevin can vouch for the smack I run...I usually back it up, as does my team...
posted on September 20, 2007 5:22 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
OU-Ron: I seem to recall having heard that before. Good stuff. I think oranges might have been thrown in the Orange Bowl game itself, regardless of the participants, back in the day.
Nowadays, you get arrested for that kind of thing. I don't think I'd try it even if I was a student again. Unless, of course, I could film it and put it on youtube!
Rammer Jammer said:
posted on September 20, 2007 5:40 PM — 199.89.170.92 — link — abuse?
TE
All I'm saying is; there is still a lot of football left to play... You know the old phrase "any given Saturday". Don't get me wrong, LSU is very good. But, not invincible...BTW- I wish I had that much confidence in my team (I still wouldn't talk a lot of smack though; Karma is a B*tch)
Roll TideT-Mac
posted on September 20, 2007 5:45 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse? said:
TE post 70. You can throw out all the defensive stats you choose to. We all know that LSU defense is off the hook. That being said, we all also know that the Va Tech team of 2007 is not even close to the 2006 squad. Cmon, TE you know that. T-Mac doesn't care what Va Tech did last season bro. Last season is history. This Tech team this season isn't impressive at all. A mediocre team at best.
So T-Mac asks you again Professor, who has LSU beaten so far???
T-Mac says this TE, running on LSU is a huge task.
T-Mac has also had an LSU/USC Title pick all spring/summer.
T-Mac understands why you would use words like Tuscaloser,Bama Gossip Girls, and calling JPW, Jessica Parker Wilson.
Hell, TE you of all people being an LSU fan have a right to be pissed.
We got Coach Saban.
T-Mac hates it for you professor TE, but try and get past it bro.
It's a done deal.
BTW, TE you should take the advice of Rammer Jammer and not look too far ahead bro.
Just keep your fingers crossed that the ferocious LSU defense doesn't get penetrated.
TE, remember you heard it here first.
T-Mac says that when LSU goes against a team that can throw bombs then they will struggle!!!
John Parker Wilson looked good throwing bombs last week didn't he TE.
DJ Hall didn't play the last 2 series or Wilson would have added to those 327 yards passing.
T-Mac stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.*T-Mac approved this message.
TampaGator said:
posted on September 20, 2007 6:14 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
WarEagleATL:
'89 game right? You forgot to mention the beer bottles.
You may have been the only one throwing oranges, but there were quite a few students throwing beer bottles on the Gators after the game--the team and players had to be escorted out of the stadium by security.
...it was a great game; UF lead 7-3 for a good chunk of the game, and AU scored a TD in final 2 mins of the game (going off memory here; forgive me if my details are a bit off).
As I posted in that thread by that PO'd Gator--it is a HEATED rivalry. It's cooled off quite a bit since the conference split in 2, and we stopped playing each other, but before the split, it was a very heated rivalry--but one based on a great deal of mutual respect.
Moreover, our alumni and student bodies get along fairly well when the teams aren't actually going at it--at least around here, and at least that's been my experience. AU has quite a presence in central Florida--you see AU stuff all over the place.
Frankly, I had higher hopes for this game before the season. I'm not suggesting it will be a blow out, or even easy--I'm not even taking it for granted that UF wins; however, the anticipation factor has been severely compromised, due to AU's slow start.
...that said, I have very little doubt that after toe meets leather, the Tigers and the Gators will instinctively rekindle that 'ol flame!
GO GATORS!!
posted on September 20, 2007 6:45 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
T-Gator: Liquor bottles, it's liquor bottles! No one wastes their time sneaking in BEER bottles. :-) I seem to recall what you say is true. But I don't condone any of that behavior, even back then. Even when we got pelted with cups in '86, it wasn't really that bad, but bottles can be lethal. I'm glad to watch the police come and arrest people for doing that kind of thing, although I haven't seen that in a couple of years. 98% of the time it comes from the student section.
And yes, Auburn drove for the last minute touchdown to finally win the '89 game. We were worried for quite a while.
I wish Auburn had more of a team coming into Gainesville, but you just never know about these things. I'm sure next week our coaches will have them watching that beat-down of Tennessee to put the fear of God in them. I heard CBS may broadcast the game, but I'm quite sure they'll pass on it and let ESPN have it since our tires are deflated quite a bit.
Spartacus
posted on September 20, 2007 6:55 PM — 71.103.225.30 — link — abuse? said:
I got it:
1. L.S.U. (impressive win over Va.Tech)
2. Florida (great win over Vols)
3. U.S.C. (smashed only Nebraska)
4. Oklahoma (Miami has vanished)
5. Ohio State (has something to prove)
6. Oregon (same goes for the quacks)
7. Texas (2nd best record over last five years)
8. California (might be good this year)
9. West Virginia (sorry, weak defense)
10. Wisconsin (Penn State loses at Michigan)Tommie T (aka Spartacus)
Spartacus
posted on September 20, 2007 7:11 PM — 71.103.225.30 — link — abuse? said:
T-Mac:
Tommie Boy here! Am goin' as Spartacus this time around though (aka Tommie Trojan - I think somebody stole my handle as we now have to register on this sight) as well as good ol' Tommie Trojan.
I have to take exception to your ideas on LSU. I had the Bengals as the best overall team last year - despite the two losses. In the last five years, only USC has fewer loses than LSU has, along with Texas. That makes LSU a Top Three team minimum. And, the last four plus years do matter - as there are redshirt seniors on all squads who have contributed to either failure or success all along the way.
And, on paper, as far as talent goes - only USC can rival the high quality players that LSU has on their roster. LSU will continue to dominate for the next four years. I have LSU has having the best defense in the land - period. Now, they may lose a game, as many a great team has. But, should they win the SEC (or Florida for that matter), they should be playing for the National Championship. This is the one time that I am certainly in favor of a one-loss SEC team playing for all the marbles. I don't care if USC, Oklahoma and Ohio State all go unbeaten. USC should play LSU if they win out. Oklahoma plays nobody but Texas all year long. I won't even be too surprised if the Horns don't "Hook em'" anyway.
I do think that Florida might cause LSU some trouble. But Alabama? Puuuleaaase! The Tide don't have no talent son! Saban is doing a great job all around. But, he'll need to bring his lunch for the job of takin' down LSU. That is the monster that he has created. Don't think he can just undo that anytime too soon. No, LSU is for real regardless of how bad Virginia Tech may be this year.
In fact: I have Georgia to beat Alabama this weekend and LSU to cover the spread against South Carolina (the other USC). So, that should end the debate bout Bama' soon as the Dawgs are done chewin' em up.Tommie T
GA Boy said:
posted on September 20, 2007 7:23 PM — 97.89.29.93 — link — abuse?
I have to agree with TE on this one. South Carolina is about to get romped in the Bayou.
Hey Cock n Fire. You really think 51 points from the Cocks on LSU's D. You know that is 7 touchdowns and a safety right. Or maybe you were thinking of 6 touchdowns and 3 field goals. Yeah, that's what it will be.
Rammer Jammer--Ya'll feeling pretty good for the DAWGS this weekend? I just heard we got Gameday down there Saturday.
Last time I went was 1991 when ya'll spanked us 10-0. We fumbled on the 1 yard line and that was all she wrote.
I see it close this weekend too. GO DAWGS!TE
posted on September 20, 2007 9:10 PM — 70.180.45.10 — link — abuse? said:
As for the moniker truncation, I have to give that to Kevin himself...That's what most of the people on my local site know me as, and I'm sure its a lot easier for you guys to bang out...
I first came up with it as a 22 year old college-aged punk, fresh out of the SID office at LSU...It was a play on our mascot, and the fact that I went to school at LSU, but like a lot of things, it got misconstrued into some arrogant overtone of feigned superiority...
But, it stuck...and I like it...
T-Mac...LSU has beaten a Top 25 program who will finish with a better overall record than Tennessee, and whose defense will fare far better than the Vols will this year. LSU has also beaten a team that's got a Road W in the SEC this year...and you know those are ALWAYS tough to come buy, sir...LSU also throttled an offense that put points up on Top 25 talented teams...
When you compare the body of work, there is no way you can mention the teams that Florida has played in the same breath as LSU's opponents. To attempt to do so is somewhat akin to MoveOn.org talking about becoming "Fair & Balanced" in its political goals...
As for this discussion, I think Kirk Douglas as Spartacus hit on the storyline that I think will tell the tale...
Emotions play such a huge role in collegiate sports...There's no denying that the NFL simply can't compete with the college game in terms of the tenacity, the fire, the desire, the pageantry, the emotional excitement, and the sheer force of will that wells up inside of kids who want to represent more than themselves, but their state, their area, their people, and their school...
T-Mac, we're not jealous at all about Coach Saban. We laughed all the way to the bank while taking your best cornerback prospect and your best defensive line player in the state last year in Sidell Corley & Phelon Jones, who had some none-too-flattering things to say about the last minute pitch Nick the Prick spit at them in Mobile late in the recruiting game...
Come to think of it, their fathers published comments weren't exactly flatering, either. So talk all you want about the honey he's pouring into your ears...But, to the people that matter-the recruits that become the crux of your emotional well being each and every Saturday-it's more like hemlock he's trying to hold them down and force them to swallow...
The guy is a Band-Aid on a bullethole...He hasn't shown the ability to stay long-term, and we all know past history is the best indicator of future behaviour and performance...So what does that tell us about Nick?
It tells us he better get one of those five year adjustable rate mortgages on that Great Expectations-esque crib he's building on that lake out in rolling hills of Alabama...Because he won't be out there long enough for it to adjust, if you ask me...
Now, whether you guys run him off, or not...That's the real question. Who hits eject quicker...The fans, or the coach?
As for him dealing with LSU on the field...Well, the aforementioned Spartacus hinted at what I'll delve into more metaphorically...
Nick Saban awoke the sleeping giant. He created a living, fire breathing, buzz-saw imitating football program called LSU from the ashbin of its own history...
Color him a Victor Frankenstein, if you will...You ever read that Mary Shelly novel, T-Mac? Just curious...
The overarching theme is that, eventually, the great and grand creation outgrew and outstripped its creator's ability to control it...It became something else...
It became a monster...
We are that monster...and Nick Saban is the man responsible...
Like I said earlier this year...Come November 3rd, you'll get your issue...
T-Mac
posted on September 20, 2007 9:58 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse? said:
T-Mac has to clarify something here.
T-Mac knows LSU is off the hook.
All T-Mac was talking about was the level of competition that they have played...thus far.
This current Va Tech team is not the same team as last season. At all. T-Mac saw most of the Va Tech/East Carolina game and the Hokies looked completely flat.
T-Mac has it LSU/USC in the National Title game.
That will not change.
TE, you predicted LSU-41 USC-7
TE, if LSU holds the Cocks to 7, T-Mac will be sold!
TE, you also said in your post 71 that the Cocks won't see the redzone in the entire 2nd half.
Do you really think a Spurrier Coached team will be held out of the redzone for a whole half of football???
T-Mac mos def thinks LSU wins this one, but holding the Cocks out of the redzone for 30 minutes of ball seems like a stretch.
T-Mac says that if Va Tech/South Carolina played that the Cocks would win.LSU is a great all-around CFB team.
We all know that.
All T-Mac is saying is that when they go up against a team that can throw bombs that the secondary will be exposed!
A legit team that can go deep and isn't afraid to air it out.
T-Mac never said that LSU would lose against a pass-happy team!
What was said is that they would struggle.
Cmon, lets be real. Nobody is running on them.
Not from what T-Mac has seen so far.
TE, if LSU holds the Cocks out of the redzone for the entire 2nd half as you say they will, T-Mac will eat a whole dinner table full of crow!Deal???
T-Mac is all hopped up on Starbucks.
P.S. WHATS UP MY DOGG TOMMIE TROJAN????
T-Mac missed you brother!
*T-Mac approved this message.
TE
posted on September 20, 2007 10:04 PM — 70.180.45.10 — link — abuse? said:
So, when you talk about the LSU Defense struggling...What exactly would "struggling" be for us...
Giving up twice or yards per game average? 246 total? Two scoring drives? Do you really think you'll see that much difference against a team that wasn't sure about its starter just a few weeks ago?
Syvelle Newton will finish this game...USC will not see the redzone in the 3rd or 4th quarter...This is because our 2nd & 3rd string DL and DB's are not beasts...but Frankensteins...Jai Eugene's been waiting for two years, but he's behind two guys who will play on Sunday's at CB...
Al Woods is a RS Freshman, as is Pep Levingston out of Ruston...They are also Frankensteinwannabes...
Do you think USC has seen anything like LSU's defense? Honestly? That reminds me...while we're on the subject...
Got a prediction for this game, TM?
Clemson Joe said:
posted on September 20, 2007 10:22 PM — 24.168.208.54 — link — abuse?
Solid hammering Miami is handing out right now. They look much improved. Kyle Wright looks like he should, and the 'Canes look like they're playing hard. I'm glad to see it.
T-Mac (# 91):
I'm curious. You say that SC is a legit team that isn't afraid to go deep. After 3 games (2 against inferior competition), South Carolina has less than 600 yards passing. They might not be afraid to go deep, but they doesn't translate as much of a threat. Although, maybe they've been hiding it and saving it for this game (LMAO).
TE (# 92):I agree, but Syvelle Newton is too busy quitting the Montreal Alouettes to finish the game. It is going to be quite the beat down though. LSU definitely appears to be very much the superior team in this match up.
T-Mac
posted on September 20, 2007 10:23 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse? said:
TE, T-Mac never said that the Cocks were a pass happy team. You are talking about South Carolina and that is not what T-Mac had in mind as an air it out team, although Spurrier probably will.
TE, T-Mac was talking about a LEGIT passing team.
TE, you really should wait until LSU destroys a few SEC teams before you get so cock-sure!
No pun intended.
T-Mac says destroy because you describe this LSU Defense as if they were unpenetrable!
TE, that is not the case.
With any defense.
Every defense has a weakness.
TE, you try to come across like you care nothing about Nick Saban leaving LSU and all that.
At the same time you call him Nick the Prick.
News Flash
Kevin Donahue 
said:
posted on September 16, 2007 10:31 PM — link — abuse?Question - what the hell is Alabama doing entering the AP poll at #16?!?! Seriously?!?!
If you look at who is just below them, I would take the field over Alabama every time. Seriously. Give me Va Tech, Louisville, Hawaii, Texas A&M (OK, maybe not), Kentucky, Georgia and South Florida all to beat Alabama.
Am I insane?