October 21, 2007
College Football Top 25 Polls - Week 9 - 2007
College football top 25 polls for games played through October 20, 2007.
BCS Standings (Week 2)
1. Ohio State
2. Boston College
3. LSU
4. Arizona State
5. Oregon
6. Oklahoma
7. West Virginia
8. Virginia Tech
9. Kansas
10. South Florida
11. Florida
12. USC
13. Missouri
14. Kentucky
15. Virginia
16. South Carolina
17. Hawaii
18. Georgia
19. Texas
20. Michigan
21. California
22. Auburn
23. Connecticut
24. Alabama
25. Penn State
AP Top 25
1. Ohio State (57)
2. Boston College (2)
3. LSU (5)
4. Oklahoma
5. Oregon
6. West Virginia
7. Arizona State (1)
8. Virginia Tech
9. Florida
9. USC
11. South Florida
12. Kansas
13. Missouri
14. Kentucky
15. South Carolina
16. Hawaii
17. Texas
18. California
19. Michigan
20. Georgia
21. Virginia
22. Alabama
23. Auburn
24. Penn State
25. Rutgers
USA Today
1. Ohio State (58)
2. Boston College (2)
3. LSU
4. Oklahoma
5. Oregon
6. West Virginia
7. Arizona State
8. USC
9. Virginia Tech
10. Kansas
11. Florida
12. South Florida
13. Missouri
14. Hawaii
15. Kentucky
16. Texas
17. South Carolina
18. Virginia
19. Georgia
20. California
21. Michigan
22. Penn State
23. Auburn
24. Alabama
25. Wisconsin
Harris Interactive
1. Ohio State (111)
2. Boston College (1)
3. LSU (2)
4. Oklahoma
5. Oregon
6. West Virginia
7. USC
8. Arizona State
9. Florida
10. Virginia Tech
11. Kansas
12. South Florida
13. Missouri
14. Hawaii
15. Kentucky
16. Texas
17. South Carolina
18. California
19. Georgia
20. Virginia
21. Michigan
22. Penn State
23. Auburn
24. Alabama
25. Rutgers
Master Coaches Poll
1. Ohio State (16)
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma
4. Boston College
5. Oregon
6. USC
7. Florida
8. West Virginia
9. Arizona State
10. Virginia Tech
11. Kansas
12. Missouri
13. South Florida
14. Hawaii
15. Kentucky
16. Texas
17. Michigan
18. South Carolina
19. California
20. Auburn
21. Penn State
22. Alabama
23. Virginia
24. Georgia
25. Rutgers
Comments:
Zac said:
posted on October 21, 2007 5:37 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
I'll never understand how these guys figure who should be ranked where. IMO, and based largely upon what I have observed, the following is more like it should be:
1. OSU
2. BC
3. LSU
4. ASU
5. KS
6. OK
7. OR
8. S FL
9. WVU
10. FL
11. USCBases:
Undefeated, KS, should be ranked higher than OK. Despite the early cake-walk, they won at KS St and at CO. CO couldn't win at KS St; OK couldn't win at CO.
When #2 LSU lost at KY by 6 in OT (A lot of people called for this upset.), they didn't fall out of the Top 10. #2 S FL lost by 3 at Rutgers (A lot of people called for this upset.), they should be ranked in the Top 10 higher than WVU, a 1-loss team S FL beat.
It was thought USC crushed a better than average NE in Lincoln. We have since learned different. The combined record of USC's schedule thus far reads 18-42; none have a winning record. If USC beats OR next week, then, maybe put em in the Top 10.
Argue the rest as you see fit.
grcunning said:
posted on October 21, 2007 5:56 PM — 71.72.42.64 — link — abuse?
wow...58 "Idiots" this week
Since whoever it was made that comment, the idiot count has been growing.
Personally, I wish we werent ranked 1.
OSU plays better when no one gives them a chance, like in 2002.
Thursday will be nice...I saw VT play LSU, but I haven't had the honor of watching BC.Zac said:
posted on October 21, 2007 6:04 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Hey, C-Dogg, one thing's for certain. VA Tech will show BC where their heart is. If not the Hokies, the Canes will have a chance, provided FSU, MD, or Clemson haven't knocked them off.
Right you are, Lennie, something we've all said at one point or another, myself included. I was just trying to add some perspective to where we were at. Who knows? Given the way this season has gone, one might expect a completely different Top-10 next Sunday.
Lennie Collins
posted on October 21, 2007 6:25 PM — 70.251.186.200 — link — abuse?
said:
Zac(Comment #7) you, other fans, and I will never understand this voting process. This team beat this team which lost that team, if this team lost to this team which beat this team, and so far in my opinion just add to the confusing. Some can argue Ohio State's and Kansas' out of conference schedule. Some can argue Boston College's, Oregon's, and Louisiana State' conference schedule, and so forth. Believe me if there was a play-off system it will still be arguements made.
grcunning said:
posted on October 21, 2007 6:44 PM — 71.72.42.64 — link — abuse?
I don't understand why they dont have 2 of the BCS games each year as #1-vs-#4 and #2-vs-#3, then the winners play on the 8th.
All of the bowl games would still make their money, and no games would be added to the season.
There would still be the 5th team complaining about being left out, but it's better than what we have now.Autigerman said:
posted on October 21, 2007 7:27 PM — 72.205.222.229 — link — abuse?
gcrunning
I think thats the idea with the plus one or something close to that. Only problem is that 35 gets left out. Still relies on a poll system that dosent work.
I suggest just let the conference champs duke it out. There are only five BCS conferences anyway.
They have already proved that a non BCS conference team will never get in. Just ask Utah,
Boise State,Hawaii. All undefeated and none got in.
Boise was ranked below a few one loss teams.Autigerman said:
posted on October 21, 2007 7:47 PM — 72.205.222.229 — link — abuse?
ZAC #3it all comes down to money. Which teams are the best draws. The BCS was crapping thereselves until South Florida lost.
No way that game would draw as much as LSU or Ok.
None of it makes any since really.
And then the silly six week lay off before the championship. To me bowl games are nothing more then just an extra week of football. IMO you seldom get both teams best game. Even if we never did get a playoff they have to fix the layoff.Fix the layoff then have a playoff.
Lennie Collins
posted on October 21, 2007 8:20 PM — 70.251.186.200 — link — abuse? said:
GRCunning...the chances of Notre Dame joining the Big 11? Zero Percent. Even if it were to happen the earliest would be in the year 2015. The Big 11 wants a championship game but both the Big 11 and Pacific-10 conferences are against a play-off system. AuTigerman(Comment #15) repeat what you just typed! The voting in the polls and BCS Computers are thinking exactly like that! The BCS wants USC, LSU, OU, and yes even a 2 loss UF team in the National Title game because they are looking at it from Dollar Signs instead of how the teams play on the field. Personally I wish they would get rid of rankings and make a play-off system. Out of all the major sports, College & Pro, College Football is the only one that has the most controversy when determining who plays for the title and the only one to "crown" co-champions! You would have thought that they would have fixed the problem by now. Has long has these fans keep attending these "lower tier bowls" why should they have a play-off system. I know the fans from schools that have no chance of playing for a national title will not stop going to them but if the ones that are contenders every year would stop supporting these "upper tier bowls" then maybe that will get them closer to a play-off system. Hey this is just may way of thinking.
Bevo Boy said:
posted on October 21, 2007 8:30 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Is 2015 when ND's contract with NBC ends? If they don't start winning and can't get that renewed then they might join a conference. However, they might join the Big East if they did join anywhere, that's their basketball conference.
Lennie Collins
posted on October 21, 2007 8:40 PM — 70.251.186.200 — link — abuse? said:
Hey Bevo Boy good to hear from ya! No, their NBC tv contract doesn't expire it's because their future schedules have been made up until that year. I doubt very much they would want to pay the non-Big 11 teams buy out money even though they could keep a few for non-conference games. Go to www.nationchamps.net you can see most of the teams future schedules.
tigerbait22 said:
posted on October 21, 2007 9:19 PM — 216.79.207.181 — link — abuse?
It could work like this,bcs#2vs#4 and #3vs#5, with #1 having the bye. After those teams play each other, the winners have a coin toss to see who plays #1. Whatever team wins that game plays the other team for the national championship. The way it's looking, LSU is going to be in the national championship against whoever.
Zac said:
posted on October 21, 2007 9:51 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Bevo Boy: Currently, ND is all sports in the Big East; all but football, that is. If they joined a conference, it's more likely they'd join the Big 10/11. The hang-up to their doing so rests upon their unwillingness to revenue share their exclusive TV contract, not to mention any funds provided by the Catholic Church. I'm not entirely certain of this, but I believe they would also want concessions regarding schedule. ND has been playing USC for as far back as I can remember, and Navy for (I think.) 25 years or so. They have even recently agreed to continue playing MI for another, what was it; 10 seasons?
K-Hue, have there been any further rumblings regarding the Big 10/11's interest in expansion? Last I heard, they had given up on ND and were looking at MO, Pitt, and Syracuse. Though, I imagine Cinci is starting to look attractive.
Lennie Collins
posted on October 21, 2007 10:19 PM — 70.251.186.200 — link — abuse? said:
Hey Zac(Comment #22) I heard last year on one of these sports talk shows that Pennsylvania State was thinking of joining the Big East because they desire a "natural rival" aka Pittsburgh. But sources later revealed that Ol' Joseph Paterno wanted to play Pittsburgh own his terms. So Pittsburgh said (You know what) it! We got another rival in West Virginia! So that is why Penn State plays Michigan State at the end of the season cause the Big 11 wanted to get a rivalry started with those two. I don't know about you Zac but I don't feel that has a rivalry series. So the Big 11 wants now Syracuse to join but they are a little hesitatant because of the direction the football team has gone in. The Big 11 is holding on to the hopes that Notre Dame will join but it want be anytime soon! The Big 11 wants a championship game to bring in money not a play-off. They already have Ford Field and Lucas Stadium has desired host for the game. Missouri has been mentioned but I do not see them leaving their two big rivals Nebraska and Kansas. They already got the series against Illinios restarted so they are set has far as rival play goes.
bfloPETE
posted on October 22, 2007 9:00 AM — 136.183.28.187 — link — abuse? said:
I'm just hoping that the Gators win out in the SEC EAST and face LSU in the SEC championship game.
If LSU is number 1 at that point and they get beat by a top 5 ranked Gator team there's a chance that the gators could still land in the championship game.
Call me crazy but no one had the Gators going to the championship game last year and they managed to squeak in.We just need the other top 5 teams to lose a couple of games!
gatorstud said:
posted on October 22, 2007 9:27 AM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
another crazy saturday night in the sec.....it seems that florida and lsu are on a path to meet again in the sec champ....
i am still not sure about lsu though....they could have easily lost their past three games.....it is easy to say that miles is a genious...but what if they didn't get the touchdown at the end on that wild play.....what if the ball bounced straight up in the air and hit the ground as time ran out....how could miles have looked his players in the eyes and say that was the best way to get points....jesus, he was already in field goal range...he is taking big risks.....kinda like someone who doesn't care cause he isn't going to be ther next year...hhhmmmm
i know it tough to think of miles as a person who would do something like that....but , his play calling in the last three games is very suspect....
TE, where are you, help me out here with this.....how can miles justify that last play....
and i think florida is the last team lsu wants to face in the champ. game....
jmho.....
go gators...and hokies
Autigerman said:
posted on October 22, 2007 9:43 AM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?
Gator
unfortunately he dosent have to justify it because it worked.Craziest call ive seen this year. Your right if the ball were tipped game is over. Guy was covered like a blanket credit the reciever for a great catch.
However i do believe if the ball were tipped they would have figured someway to put one second back on the clock.Probably the same line judge who put the flag in his pocket,or maybe the line judge that gave the first down spot,or even the umpire that missed that horrible chop block. Somehow, someway, they would have been one second left and prehaps Les knew that.
We should have booted the ball on the kickoff as far as we could have. To give them a sqib kick when down by a field goal was a horrible mistake.If we cant tackle the return guy then we need new players on the kickoff team.
Congrats to LSU for not giving up and beating us by wearing us down.
gatorstud said:
posted on October 22, 2007 9:56 AM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
Autigerman....that chop block on dorsey was ridiculous...it looked like the offensive lineman went right after dorsey's knees...dorsey is lucky to be walking....that type of block should get you kicked out of a game...it could of easily ended dorseys career....
go gators...and hokies
Autigerman said:
posted on October 22, 2007 12:14 PM — 129.61.46.60 — link — abuse?
Gator
I agree with that.The block was bad enough but he sort of rolled up on him too. I hope he is ok.
My only point on that is this. There has been a lot of post from LSU fans that Auburn players are taught to do that and that is crazy talk.
Its more likely a young player getting schooled by a great lineman and loosing his head.Happens all the time.Late hits on a quarterback are similar in nature. Many players seem to be trying to take the QB out. You just dont hear people go on and on about it.
Its a very violent sport and unfortunately violent things happen.Like the eight stitches Cox got from a late hit to the head last week.Players have to be made responsible for their actions on the field.But this is not a totally isolated incident.
To say he purposely tried to hurt him or end his career ill let his own conscience be the judge of that.
TE
posted on October 22, 2007 12:27 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
As for the comments regarding the officiating, yes, it was horrendous...But, on the touchdown play that was reviewed, the referees are to blame. LSU was given the okay by both guys in the slot (Doucet & Dickson, the TE) that they were on the line by the linesman on that side.
Before the snap, the linesman from one side will signal whether or not the formation and shifting on his side is legal or not. His mirror on the other side will give it back to him. If he does not, then he throws a flag, and the Umpire or head referee will ALWAYS ask first whether or not he missed the mirror signal back or whether the shift or formation was illegal. If he says he mirrored the signal, then he usually will tell the other linesman to pick up the flag.
This was the case Saturday night, as the replay showed. The linesman on the initial side of the shift gave the signal, and the mirror occurred, but the original linesman did not see the mirror, so he dropped his flag.
This is typical, and the flag is often picked up in this situation. As it was Saturday night.
You can talk alot about the officiating, but that wasn't one you could talk about.
As for the last play...The replay last night showed that there were a full :04 left at the time he caught the ball. Unless that ball is tipped two yards into the air, or about half as high as a punted football's hangtime, we had plenty of time to run that play and get it off, and still kick the field goal. It was a gutsy call, but the replay would've (and did) show we had plenty of time left.
Les is getting a bad rap because of that, but in both of the past two games, he's shown excellent clock management skills. Especially Saturday.
TampaTiger said:
posted on October 22, 2007 2:21 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
TE (#29) - - I do agree that there is a high likelyhood that you would have had a few seconds on the clock if that pass wasn't completed, but I think that you have to agree, as a fan of the game, that that was by far the most rediculous playcall ever seen!!! He risked an interception in the endzone, and for what!?!?!?! A field goal wins the game. And it's not like Colt can't kick a 39 yard field goal. You guys played a great game, as did we. You deserved the win, but I will never be able to understand that call, just can't be done.
TE
posted on October 22, 2007 2:33 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
The guy hadn't covered Byrd on go routes all night (evidenced by the 58 yarder he smoked him on earlier on a drive that lead to a FG; still steamed we didn't get 6 on that drive!)...
No problem from me taking a shot there...Great execution on Matt's part, which is a huge turnaround from the week before for Flynn. The risk is there...But, the same risk that the next play entailed.
Miles has guts, and he shows supreme confidence in his players, and they feed off of that. I've seen far worse on a football field.
gatorhippy
posted on October 22, 2007 2:42 PM — 70.121.185.56 — link — abuse? said:
TE (#31):
That pass by Flynn for the winner was a beautifully thrown ball...
Excellent play call and execution...
Curious though as to what you think...
Do you think Les has been pushing it because of confidence in the O or lack of confidence in the kicking game?
That kid has missed some chip shots...
gatorstud said:
posted on October 22, 2007 2:45 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
TE...plain and simple.....if that play at the end doesn't work...you and everyone else would be calling for les miles's head on a silver platter......
and it would of gone down as the biggest "bone head" play of the year..by mark may's standards....
i agree w/ tampa tiger.....just plain stupid.....
but it also shouldn't overshadow another great game put on by the sec.....
and there is no doubt that we will be seeing you in the sec champ. game.....
go gators...and hokies
TampaTiger said:
posted on October 22, 2007 2:49 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
TE (#31) - - Not trying to start an arguement or anything here, but "...hadn't covered Byrd on go routes all night...", yes he did complete one of those, but prior to that final catch, Byrd had 2 completions, that's it.....but he made the catch, and can't argue with that. But still not a legitimate arguement for going for the TD there. MAYBE had it been Doucet (7 catches 93 yards), but even then, I still don't get the logic for such a play. Just my opinion. I guess Colt missed one too many in practice last week or something.
GatorGreg said:
posted on October 22, 2007 2:54 PM — 66.89.151.21 — link — abuse?
@32- Excellent play call and execution...
Im going to have to disagree. The only reason why that was considered a "good" call is beause it worked. There was no reason why Les needed to call that play when they were easily within field goal range. If that play no worked, LSU fans would be asking for Les's head on a platter. That call was absolute stupidity.
GatorGreg said:
posted on October 22, 2007 2:55 PM — 66.89.151.21 — link — abuse?
@32- Excellent play call and execution...
I’m going to have to disagree. The only reason why that was considered a "good" call is because it worked. There was no reason why Les needed to call that play when they were easily within field goal range. Had that play not worked, LSU fans would be asking for Les's head on a platter. That call was absolute stupidity.
gatorhippy
posted on October 22, 2007 3:07 PM — 70.121.185.56 — link — abuse? said:
G-Stud (#33) & G-Greg (#35):
"If that play at the end doesn't work"...
"The only reason why that was considered a "good" call is beause it worked."
And it did work...
And was also undoubtedly the perfect call for that situation given the Tigers and Flynn hadn't hit Byrd much all evening...
Which makes Miles look like a football genius with huge confidence in his offense and Crowton a playcaller of Spurrier-esque proportions...
Both of which I would have to agree with at this point...
FromVT said:
posted on October 22, 2007 3:11 PM — 76.30.254.215 — link — abuse?
What are you guys talking about here? Why was the shot to the end-zone stupid? They still had enough time to kick the field goal if they didn't score as they did. That was a 3rd down play. Why not take a shot? Too much has been made about that play. There should have been 3 seconds left after the touchdown, not 1 second. Miss the pass and kick the field goal, pretty simple. This is a standard case of people making way too much about a play...
gatorstud said:
posted on October 22, 2007 3:33 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
the reciever made an unbelievable catch....it was a "textbook, don't take your eyes off the ball catch"....but that is not the point...when your in field goal range, a point down with time running out, and a timeout.....what do you really gain by throwing it to the endzone....what if it was intercepted, lsu could of kissed their great season away with one dumb decision....
running it, to put the ball more in the center of the field, then calling a timeout with just a few seconds left....probably would of been just fine for a field goal.....
down by one....game, season, nat. champ. on the line....kick the field goal....plain and simple....
jmho...
go gators...and hokies...
TE
posted on October 22, 2007 3:35 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
As I said in another thread (I'm easily confused, don't you know hipster?), I thought it was surprising, but a perfectly surprising call.
Colt'd missed two against the Gators, and also-even though he imitated a howitzer with his leg as the game clock expired-against Kentucky as well.
Yes, he had hit two, but those weren't with the game on the line. I was honestly looking for a Flynn run on 3rd with a burned timeout to set Colt up for whichever hashmark and spot he wanted...So, if it caught me off guard, it obviously
TE
posted on October 22, 2007 3:36 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
As I said in another thread (I'm easily confused, don't you know hipster?), I thought it was surprising, but a perfectly surprising call.
Colt'd missed two against the Gators, and also-even though he imitated a howitzer with his leg as the game clock expired-against Kentucky as well.
Yes, he had hit two, but those weren't with the game on the line. I was honestly looking for a Flynn run on 3rd with a burned timeout to set Colt up for whichever hashmark and spot he wanted...So, if it caught me off guard, it obviously caught Tubby and Co. off guard as well.
Lemme tell you something else...Tuberville's squib on that kickoff is astounding...I can't believe he gave up the field position like that...I know the game ended up not hinging on the FG, but that was an inexusable decision in my mind...Gotta question dat one...
gatorstud said:
posted on October 22, 2007 3:55 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
TE #43....one thing i have noticed is that lately, coaches have been coaching not to lose, instead of coaching to win...and lately miles has come across as someone who coaches to win....the last play of the auburn game is the only play that i could question miles on all year....all his other gambles have proved that...he coaches to win....
i will have to agree with g-hippy (from another thread) that dorsey is out of the heisman race because of the last three games....he has not been as disruptive as he was in the beggining of the year, and yes TE..you are right about the double teams...on almost every play he gets double teamed...and that is a credit to his ability, but defensive coaches should gameplan the defense to get him into a single blocker situation with blitzes and stunts....it can be done.....
jmho though....
and by the way...TEBOW will win the heisman this year.....he is a monster.....nuff said...
go gators....and definately the hokies this week....
posted on October 22, 2007 4:45 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
Tiger Ed: Good thing you don't earn a living prognosticating these games for a living. I thought it wasn't even going to be close? Your team isn't quite the intimidating monster you think it to be. Winning tight games is a hallmark of a great team, but winning 2 out of 3 squeakers isn't exactly dominating.
That game was entirely winnable by Auburn. I have no idea why their play-calling got so conservative for 25 out of the last 30 minutes of the 2nd half, and I have no idea why they kept pooch-kicking it to LSU every time, giving them the ball close to midfield. Especially that last kickoff, when all LSU needed was a field goal. I guess that's why they pay the coaches the big bucks--to make calls that leave the rest of us shaking our heads.
Les Miles looked like a genius with that last touchdown pass, but he could have very well looked like the goat. I hope I catch Miles at the craps table in Vegas sometime!
TE
posted on October 22, 2007 5:09 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
We aided them, bigtime...short field turnover, and then gave up what was probably another scoring drive on what was the worst play I've ever seen from a wide receiver on Brandon LaFell...
Mental errors plague our offense...
Oh, and 351 yards on your defense in the 2nd half...
Rusty Shackleford said:
posted on October 22, 2007 5:31 PM — 68.159.143.66 — link — abuse?
If you're with me and still have confidence in Auburn, we still have hope. LSU can still lose to Alabama and Arkansas. We can beat Alabama. That would put Auburn in the SEC championship. Slim chance, but hey, we all want hope.
Tampa Hurricane
posted on October 22, 2007 5:53 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
Rusty Shackleford, who would win the tie breaker if LSU lost to Alabama and Alabama lost to Auburn, but these teams won all other games? You would have a three way tie for first place with all 3 teams losing 2 conference games, what is the tie breaker for this in the SEC?
posted on October 22, 2007 6:18 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Oh yea. Once I consider all that stuff, you're right. It wasn't even close...
I like how it's always something intangible to explain your team's shortcomings, anything other than their poor execution on the field.
351 yards in the 2nd half translates into 137 yards in the 1st half. But I bet you weren't worried at all.
Your team did what they had to do to win a good, close game. My's hat's off to them. But please don't write 14 paragraphs about the specifics of every series of downs like you did last week when they lost. =Boring!
If LSU wins out the SEC, they will have my full support to take all the marbles.
tigerbait22 said:
posted on October 22, 2007 7:36 PM — 216.79.207.170 — link — abuse?
It's the same way every year in the sec, that's why sec is the toughest, best conference in the country. They beat each other up week after week which makes it hard to go undefeated. Their is always 5 to 7 teams in the top 25 from the sec every year. If you put over-hyped programs like USC, NOTRE DUMB, MICHIGAN, JOKELAHOMA, AND OTHERS in the SEC, they would all lose at least 3 or 4 games a year. I know every season that starts as a LSU fan i circle AUBURN, FLORIDA, ALABAMA, AND WHEN WE PLAY TENNESSEE. These games are always down to the end NAILBITERS. Whoever you pull for in the sec, you know what your in for year after year. If LSU beats alabama and runs the table, they definetly deserve to be in national championship.
grcunning said:
posted on October 22, 2007 9:16 PM — 71.72.42.64 — link — abuse?
tigerbait22,
what you are saying, after I wade through all the unnecessary sarcasm, it true this year.
I do recall, however, many many years when Big 10 fans felt the same way, watching the PAC10 and SEC play a bunch of easy games(USC and Alabama come to mind), while the Big 10 teams beat each other up week after week.
All I'm saying is what comes around goes around. Deal with it.
And yes, if LSU wins out, which is by no means certain, I think they deserve to play in "the game"Autigerman said:
posted on October 22, 2007 9:27 PM — 72.205.222.229 — link — abuse?
TE post #29
You have a seroius reality problem.I tape every game so i can go back later and look objectivly at the tape. Win or lose its just a hobby of mine. And by the way you dont want me to tell you how Dorsey was doing.
You can come over if youd like i enjoy it when i can prove a point.
The pick the flag up call was complete bullshit.The split reciever will normally check with the line judge to ensure hes ok. You can see on the replay from the break of the huddle he never looks at the line judge.
You can also tell he is clearly two yards off the line of scrimmage. The blue line makes it obvious.
Now the penalty clearly made no difference in the result of the play since it happened on the other side of the field but it was clearly a penalty.
Zac said:
posted on October 22, 2007 10:57 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Lennie (Post 23), there's more to the story regarding the animosity between Pitt & PA St. Back when Nehlan coached WVU, Syracuse requested PA St be invited to join the league. Pitt's representatives spoke vehemently against it, on the grounds that PA St wasn't strong in basketball; their joining the Big East would do little to even enhance the league. Only 3 football coaches voted in favor of PA St joining: Beamer (VT), Nehlan (WVU), Pasqualoni (SU). The move to invite PA St was subsequently shot down. Even Big East Commissioner, Mike Tranghese, was shocked, and said something to the effect that the rest of the league, "…would rue the day they didn't invite PA St to join…"
Needless to say, Joe Pa, not to mention the rest of the PA St Athletic Dpt, was bitterly disappointed. It wasn't long afterwards the Big Ten came a'calling. Shortly following, the Big Ten became……the Big Ten (11). The Big East has been trying to work out something with PA St ever since, especially when BC, Miami, & VT left.
Like ND is a far better geographical fit with the Big Ten, than with the Big East, PA St is a far better geographical fit with the Big East, than with the Big Ten. Unfortunately, ND is as likely to join the Big 10, as PA St is likely to join the Big East.
GatorGreg said:
posted on October 23, 2007 11:46 AM — 66.89.151.21 — link — abuse?
@54.. I vote for the idiots that put ASU at number 4 and primarily the idiot that voted them number 1 for a bye week. As IrishJT and Charlie fatass used to say, they were home eating cheeseburgers, how do they move up that much?
GatorGreg said:
posted on October 23, 2007 11:57 AM — 66.89.151.21 — link — abuse?
Found him, its this idiot: Neal McCready, Mobile (AL) Press-Register
1 Arizona St.
2 Ohio St.
3 Boston College
4 LSU
5 Oklahoma
6 Southern Cal
7 West Virginia
8 Virginia Tech
9 Oregon
10 Florida
11 Kansas
12 Missouri
13 Virginia
14 Hawaii
15 Kentucky
16 South Florida
17 Michigan
18 South Carolina
19 Georgia
20 Alabama
21 Texas
22 Connecticut
23 UCLA
24 Rutgers
25 AuburnSouth Florida @16 one ahead of Michigan??????? Are you insane, Michigan still doesnt deserve a top 25 ranking IMO
OU Fan said:
posted on October 24, 2007 6:13 AM — 139.139.51.70 — link — abuse?
tigerbait22 post#50, I think every conference in college football beats up on eachother, not just the SEC. It happens in the Big 12, Big 11, Pac-10, Big East, ACC, WAC, Conference USA, and all other Divison 1 and 2 schools. I would put money on OU, Mizzou, Texas, USC, Oregon, Arizona State, and West Virginia to hang with anyone in the SEC. Hell, with the way Kansas is playing, the Jayhawks would be highly competitive as well. Florida and LSU are tough, but those teams are beatable just as any other team in America is beatable on any given Saturday. BOOMER SOONER!
Spartacus
posted on October 24, 2007 5:31 PM — 71.103.181.251 — link — abuse? said:
What a joke! Not cryin' for the Trojans. Don't need to. Lets see: won the last eight games in 2002. Went 12-1 in 2003. It was 13-0 in 2004. Another 12-1 season in 2005. It was 11-2 in 2006 and 6-1 so far this year. Let's see: thats about 62-5 lately - isn't it? Oh, I forgot, the QB broke his hand in the Stanford game and USC lost to another lousy PAC10 team. That's four losses to lousy PAC teams and only one loss to Texas (2005 National Champs)in the last six years. That means that USC is thru, right? That must mean that Boston College, Kansas, South Florida, Virginia Tech, Arizona State and Oregon should all outrank USC? Am I missing something here? Hasn't alot of other teams been "upset" once this year also.
Well, I do know this: Oregon goes down this weekend. Arizona State, Oregon State, Cal and UCLA will soon follow. The Trojans have lost their one game this year. None of those teams (except for UCLA) can handle the Trojans this year. Just because Notre Dame and Nebraska turned out to be "not up to par" - does not mean that USC is not. People who vote in polls are pathetic. Does anybody really think that Oregon is gonna run for 465 yards against USC? Oregon is a three point favorite? What? Why? Because they beat Fresno State? Oregon does not run for even a 100 yards and USC beats this team by 20 points. There I said it. It's the same scenario every year. Oregon starts off fast, gets pummeled by USC, and fades off into oblivion. USC lags between the 4th and 6th games, destroys the last five opponents, and plays in a BCS Bowl game. Happens every year except for UCLA's stunning upset last year. There isn't gonna be anymore of those this year.Tommie Trojan
GatorMatt
posted on October 24, 2007 6:23 PM — 70.171.18.91 — link — abuse? said:
Tommie T. #57,
I'm pretty sure you said the same thing last year after USC lost to Oregon State last year. Here's the link: http://www.fanblogs.com/usc/006709.php
Look at post 46. We all remember what happened to USC at the end of the season last year, don't we?GA Boy said:
posted on October 24, 2007 10:09 PM — 97.89.24.88 — link — abuse?
Spartacus@57
Last time I checked, they beat the dog$hit out of Washington State (worse than you did), they beat the dog$hit out of Washington (way worse than you did) and they beat the dog$hit out of Stanford (how did that one work out for you?). Face it man, you are a good team, I like your enthusiasm about the game this weekend, but your Trojans are going down Saturday. Don't worry though, you will still be 62-6 over the past 5 1/2 years and you can argue that point and convince us all that you are going to beat Oregon St. GO DAWGS!!Bevo Boy said:
posted on October 24, 2007 11:03 PM — 207.200.116.5 — link — abuse?
GA Boy #59, what team has gone without a couple weird games this year? Just because one team beats up on one team doesn't mean that'll happen next week even if it's against a lesser opponent. Just because Oregon beat three teams worse than USC did (or didn't even win, for that matter), that doesn't make Oregon the better team. USC has more talent overall and should win, but they haven't playing their best. If they're gonna win (which I predict they do), they need to be at the top of their game. USC may be a little bit overrated this year, but they are still the best team in the Pac-10 and could beat any team in the country.
GatorMatt
posted on October 25, 2007 12:12 AM — 70.171.18.91 — link — abuse? said:
#60,
Could beat any team in the country? They lost to one of the worst, to whom they were a 41 point underdog. I can understand losing to unranked teams, b/c it happens every weekend. But losing to a team like Stanford, who had their backup quarterback in the game, was a bit too much. Michigan lost to 1AA team, and they feel completely from the rankings. I know they're 1AA, but I guarantee the point spread wasn't 48 points. I simply think USC is getting a bit too much hype this year
LSU-PATS said:
posted on October 25, 2007 12:46 AM — 216.79.207.206 — link — abuse?
OU FANpost#56, I agree with a few teams might can hang with SEC teams, but not many. I believe LSU, FLORIDA, and other good teams from the sec are too tough and fast. It's been proven in the past few years, OKLAHOMA lost to LSU in the championship, been waiting on USC vs LSU but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. Last season FLORIDA was too much for OHIO STATE, and LSU destroyed VT earlier this year. I don't think MIZZOU or TEXAS could hang, but i would like to see ARIZONA ST., WEST VIRGINIA, or KANSAS play LSU to see how good they are. Who knows it could happen, LSU vs ? GO LSU NE PATS
TampaGator said:
posted on October 25, 2007 6:09 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Spartacus/#57:
How do you really feel? Couldn't quite make it out in your post.
USC did lose to a 41 pt. dog--why should they favor them against a pesky Oregon team that's played above expectations, v. a USC team performing below? Especially this year?
GO GATORS!!Bevo Boy said:
posted on October 25, 2007 4:42 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
GatorMatt #61, did you watch USC vs. Nebraska? Even if Nebraska has a sub-par team this year, that is a hostile environment that is always filled to capacity with screaming Nebraska fans. Nebraska still has a good defense this year, but they couldn't have stopped USC's running attack if they stacked 11 guys on the line of scrimmage. After that, it doesn't matter who the qb is because the receivers will be open because the defense will be expecting the run. It's not like USC isn't one of the most talented teams in the country (even without booty at 100%) and they still have Pete Carroll, who is probably the best coach in college football right now.
LSU-PATS said:
posted on October 25, 2007 9:32 PM — 216.79.208.52 — link — abuse?
BOSTON COLLEGE GOING DOWN TONIGHT! LSU movin up to #2! Up next OHIO STATE upset by PENN STATE. ARIZONA ST, KANSAS, WEST VIRGINIA movin on up!I think it just might happen, LSU vs one of those 3 teams! GO TIGERS-HELL YEAH!
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Lennie Collins
said:
posted on October 21, 2007 5:27 PM — 70.251.186.200 — link — abuse?I kinda figured the polls would look like this. The way LSU played last night and the way Oklahoma played earlier the Sooners should have not moved up. I personally would have voted Oregon a head of Oklahoma. Ohio State, Boston College, Louisiana State, and Oregon all got "tough" games this weekend starting Thursday Night. Oklahoma fortunately has a bye to get their junk together. Outta all the teams playing in the Top 5 this week...Oregon I believe is going to win. They are the only Top 5 team playing it home. This is going to be another great weekend of college football. Overall the Top 10 teams all have some good games this weekend. The Top 10 for sure is going to look different again next Sunday. Who will rise and who will fall?