October 28, 2007
College Football Top 25 Polls - Week 10
College football polls for games played through week 10 (October 27, 2007).
BCS College Football Poll
1. Ohio State
2. Boston College
3. LSU
4. Arizona State
5. Oregon
6. Oklahoma
7. West Virginia
8. Kansas
9. Missouri
10. Georgia
11. Virginia Tech
12. Michigan
13. Connecticut
14. Hawaii
15. Texas
16. Auburn
17. Alabama
18. South Florida
19. USC
20. Florida
21. Wisconsin
22. Boise State
23. Virginia
24. Wake Forest
25. Clemson
AP Top 25
1. Ohio State (59)
2. Boston College (1)
3. LSU (3)
4. Oregon
5. Oklahoma
6. Arizona State (2)
7. West Virginia
8. Kansas
9. Missouri
10. Georgia
11. Virginia Tech
12. Hawaii
13. USC
14. Texas
15. Michigan
16. Connecticut
17. Alabama
18. Florida
19. Auburn
20. South Florida
21. Boise State
21. Wake Forest
23. South Carolina
24. Tennessee
25. Clemson
USA Today
1. Ohio State (56)
2. Boston College (3)
3. LSU
4. Oregon (1)
5. Oklahoma
6. Arizona State
7. West Virginia
8. Kansas
9. Missouri
10. Georgia
11. Hawaii
12. Texas
13. Virginia Tech
14. Michigan
15. USC
16. Auburn
17. Florida
18. Alabama
19. Wisconsin
20. Connecticut
21. South Florida
22. Boise State
23. Kentucky
24. Clemson
25. South Carolina
Harris Interactive
1. Ohio State (114)
2. Boston College
3. LSU
4. Oklahoma
5. Oregon
6. Arizona State
7. West Virginia
8. Kansas
9. Missouri
10. Hawaii
11. Texas
12. Georgia
13. USC
14. Virginia Tech
15. Michigan
16. Florida
17. Alabama
18. Auburn
19. Connecticut
20. South Florida
21. Wisconsin
22. Boise State
23. South Carolina
24. Kentucky
25. Wake Forest
Master Coaches Poll
1. Ohio State (16)
2. LSU
3. Oregon
4. Boston College
5. Oklahoma
6. Arizona State
7. West Virginia
8. Kansas
9. Missouri
10. Michigan
11. Hawaii
12. Georgia
13. Texas
14. USC
15. Auburn
16. Virginia Tech
17. Florida
18. Alabama
19. Connecticut
20. Tennessee
21. South Florida
22. South Carolina
23. California
24. Wisconsin
25. Wake Forest
Comments:
GA Boy said:
posted on October 28, 2007 9:14 PM — 97.89.24.88 — link — abuse?
I don't get it. If USC had looked like ASU has looked over the past 8 games, the media and polls would have them at #1. ASU is at #8. 3 teams with a loss ahead of them. I don't see what Boston College has done as any more impressive that what Arizona State has done. What is the difference?
Should be a big time showdown between the Ducks and the Sun Devils this weekend! Any of you PAC 10 boys want to weigh in on this one and give us outsiders some insight on the game? How do you feel about ASU's treatment in the polls?
Hotty Toddy said:
posted on October 28, 2007 10:13 PM — 75.105.128.36 — link — abuse?
GA Boy,
Bro we just gotta accept that the BCS will stay unfair and unjustified and pray that the teams that deserve will get what they have played hard for all year long. Here's hoping to another Florida miracle from last season to a well-deserving SEC-team. (LSU probably, I won't go too prematurely here)
FromVT said:
posted on October 29, 2007 2:17 AM — 76.30.254.215 — link — abuse?
#1 here is the pre-season AP rankings. So there are still 3 from the AP poll and 4 from the Coaches poll.
AP Top 25
1. USC (62)
2. LSU (2)
3. West Virginia (1)
4. Texas
5. Michigan
6. Florida
7. Wisconsin
8. Oklahoma
9. Virginia Tech
10. Louisville
11. Ohio State
12. California
13. Georgia
14. UCLA
15. Tennessee
16. Rutgers
17. Penn State
18. Auburn
19. Florida State
20. Nebraska
21. Arkansas
22. TCU
23. Hawaii
24. Boise State
25. Texas A&MUSA Today
1. USC (45)
2. LSU (4)
3. Florida (9)
4. Texas
5. Michigan (2)
6. West Virginia
7. Wisconsin
8. Oklahoma
9. Virginia Tech
10. Ohio State
11. Louisville
12. California
13. Georgia
14. Auburn
15. Tennessee
16. Rutgers
17. UCLA
18. Penn State
19. Nebraska
20. Arkansas
21. Florida State
22. TCU
23. Boise State
24. Hawaii
25. Texas A&MTE
posted on October 29, 2007 10:53 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse?
said:
That's because we'll have 11 bowl eligible teams at the end of the year, and the SEC East has absolutely pistol-whipped themselves all over the Division all year long...
Wildest division in all of college football...and one of the most talented, as well...
The SEC gets penalized because we all have to play each other...Ranked teams that face each other inevitably lower their rankings as they go through the season and bushwhack each other...
Case in point...This weekend, LSU will actually hurt themselves by beating Bama, knocking them out of the Top 10 and giving them three losses...They did the same thing by beating Auburn & Florida...
It's nowhere near as difficult on your SOS rankings when you place also rans like the Big 10 & PAC-10 leaders do...
Heck...the Big 10's on a collision course to square off tOSU, which has-again-played NO ONE, and Michigan, who lost to Application State & Oregon...and started 0-2...
Gimme a break...the SEC gets love because they DESERVE it.
The Big XII fans need not whine...Struggling against teams like Iowa State and losing to CU, and losing to K-State & OU, along with an implosion out in Lincoln will render you less respected...
Tom Blogical
posted on October 29, 2007 11:01 AM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
It looks to me that the elite teams of the "mighty" SEC are going to have to start beating the scrub teams in their conference. Otherwise, they'll continue to get "penalized" every year.
OU-Ron
posted on October 29, 2007 11:48 AM — 216.201.209.146 — link — abuse? said:
TE, not arguing your point about being less respected by struggling against a team like Iowa St and losing to CU, but can't the same thing be said about LSU struggling against Tulane, I know they won by 24 or something like that, but the first half was damn sure a struggle, and then losing to Kentucky who gets thumped by Miss St who was beat down by LSU. My point being is that the same team does not show up every week. And my last question is how LSU will be hurt by beating Alabama...If winning hurts a team, I'll take the hurt everytime.
posted on October 29, 2007 12:11 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
Tiger Ed: Which team would you like to choose from the menu to have in Atlanta? Perhaps try something new, like the Dawg? I hear it's excellent and in season.
Looks like Auburn and Alabama are neck and neck in the polls. Won't be like that after this weekend, however, I fear. Don't fret, Bammers, I'll be pulling for you.
grcunning said:
posted on October 29, 2007 12:18 PM — 208.51.85.57 — link — abuse?
I sure do like watching the SEC play. I'll take close, hard nosed football anytime. The problem is that all those teams play at about the same level, good but not great. Great teams win those close games, even when the talent level is even.
No one in the SEC has stood out as being a championship caliber team this year. Even mighty LSU is a couple of plays away from being a 3 loss team.
I'm not saying that LSU isn't a good team, they are. I just haven't seen anything from them (other than a very stiff run defense), that indicates they are better than any other top 10 team. Their offense(particularly in the red zone) is questionable, and I haven't seen them exhibit that great CFB myth, "SEC speed"
They can go a long way towards proving their worth this weekend, by dominating a team that all the experts wrote off at the beginning of the season. If not, we may have an old standby this year:
An average Alabama team -vs- an average Tenn team in the SEC championship.
And by the way, it's not a bunch of great teams beating each other that is hurting your strength of schedule, it's national powerhouses like MS St and Vandy beating your supposed champions.Lennie Collins
posted on October 29, 2007 2:29 PM — 162.89.0.47 — link — abuse? said:
TE(Comment #9)that is THE EXACT POINT THAT I AM TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO SEE. When you have a Mississippi State beat a Kentucky and Auburn teams then it is called "tough". But when a Colorado beats an Oklahoma team,then it's called not so good? I don't understand the hipocrisy behind the comparision. IF Iowa State would have beat Oklahoma boy SEC Nation will be talking about how overrated the Big 12 is. BUT if Mississippi State beats LSU...it's parity? I still don't get it! If the SEC had 10 teams in the BCS Top 10 boy we would hear how it's the best thing to happen to college football since the teams tore out that old hard astroturf! I am not whining I am stating facts. When Oklahoma and texas won National Titles it was just that. When LSU and Florida won National titles that's all I heard is the SEC is the most dominant conference in college football. Well I don't believe that and won't!
sirbigspur said:
posted on October 29, 2007 2:46 PM — 129.252.103.143 — link — abuse?
Is it really fair that South Carolina dropped from the standings after a overtime loss to Tennessee. I mean, I know Tennessee was unranked, but they are pretty good. Stanford beats USC, and they fall from 1st to 9th. We lose to a pretty good unranked team and fall farther than nine spots. That's rediculous.
grcunning said:
posted on October 29, 2007 2:57 PM — 208.51.85.57 — link — abuse?
@16
Jeff Sagarin has SC at 22
their elo_chess ranking is 15th (what BCS uses in conjunction with the polls)
predictor ranking is 41st (best predictor of future games)
their strength of schedule is 27thThe Vandy game actually hurt them much more with the computers, the pollsters didn't dump them until the Tenn game.
gatorhippy
posted on October 29, 2007 3:21 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
OU-Ron (#19):
Neither...
I simply endorse LSU as the best conference represenative to the BCS and will be looking forward to them taking their shot at gaining entry to the BCS title game...
In which, should they gain entry, the Tigers will more than likely beat the living crap out of whoever they face in it...
Just like a SEC team has done each time a conference member has been given the opportunity to play in the "championship game" in the history of the BCS...
posted on October 29, 2007 4:29 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Maybe I should go ahead and jump on the LSU bandwagon with you, Gatorhippy. I just don't see them losing 2 of their last 3 conference games that would be required for Auburn to go to Atlanta. Possible? Yes. Likely? Nope.
Being the SEC homer that I am, I line up behind whatever horse crosses the finish line to represent us in the BCS.
I'm still thinking Gators Vs. Fighting Zooks in the Outback or Cap One bowl... Grudge match!
Rammer Jammer said:
posted on October 29, 2007 4:32 PM — 199.89.170.92 — link — abuse?
Gatorhippy
Thanks!!
If luck is what it takes to get the job done... I'll take it!!!!
Ou-Ron
I've been hearing about that all day.
I don't think there has been any official word out yet, in regards to whether they will play or not.
gatorstud said:
posted on October 29, 2007 4:49 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
War Eagle Atlanta #24....i would like to see that match-up also...
urban meyer gatordoggs vs the fighting ron zookers......that would be ssswweeeeeet........
although i wasn't a big zook fan...he took a lot of crap from gator fans that he didn't deserve....
go gators...and hokies
TE
posted on October 29, 2007 5:06 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Perrilloux & Odom will not practice until whatever happens, happens.
Personally, this is Odom's third brush with the law (arrested twice previously) since August. He should be cut loose, immediately. He plays on ST only, so he's not a huge loss.
This is also Ryan's third brush in as many years with idiocy...Funny money, fake ID to get into the Casino, and now involved in a brawl at the Varsity...
I will mention that Marlon Favorite's Band was making its debut, and a lot of players came out to watch (IE-Make fun of) him...But, even still...
My personal opinion is that RP gets one last chance...He sits out the rest of the year, based on what Miles' finds out about the incident or not.
He has the keys to a Lamborghini being dangled in front of his face, but keeps failing his driver's ed test...The kid's decision making seems to be sorely lacking...and its matched in its stupefying stupidity only by his prodigious playmaking ability...
Ryan's no longer allowed in bars, at casinos, or out past 7:30pm...THE REST OF HIS LSU CAREER. If he farts in the general vicinity of any law enforcement officers, he's a gone pecan...
I was not there Friday, but I heard he actually got beat up...
gatorstud said:
posted on October 29, 2007 5:52 PM — 72.69.2.100 — link — abuse?
TE.....tough call, but i think your right....once les gets all the info , he needs to look at the big picture and discipline him appropriately....i don't see miles suspending him with the championship game in his sight.....i didn't agree with joiner playing against lsu, he should of sat out that game......unfortunately coaches can only go so far to keep their players out of trouble, if someone wants to do something bad enough..they will find a way to do it without thinking of the consequences......it is after the fact is where coaches need to take a harsh stand.....and stop thinking about winning and losing games.....
should les sit him for at least the rest of the "regular season" not including sec ch. gm. or nat. title gam....(if they get there)....YES HE SHOULD
will he though.....NO
but i like your chances with him or without....
from here on out....it's go tigers...keep it in the sec.....
go gators...and hokies
posted on October 29, 2007 6:40 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
I'm thinking that Ohio State, Boston College, and Arizone state all have losses left in them, so I'd like to see an Oregon/LSU matchup for all the marbles. Oregon got all the momentum they needed after this past weekend. LSU will get theirs after this Saturday.
Zac said:
posted on October 29, 2007 8:17 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Two things I don't understand with the polls: 1. Undefeated KS is ranked not only below OK, but below my Mountaineers. 2. Undefeated ASU is ranked below OK & my Mountaineers. At this point in the season, it makes no sense to me.
In addition to being un-beaten, KS did one thing OK couldn't. KS won at CO. Therefore, how can OK be ranked higher than KS? Since OK is ranked higher than WVU, it follows KS should also be ranked higher than WVU.
OSU made a strong statement winning at PA St. ASU made a strong, however weaker statement winning at home against Cal. As BC had already won at higher ranked VA Tech, here's my current Top 10.
1. Ohio State
2. Boston College
3. LSU (3)
4. Kansas
5. Arizona State
6. Oregon
7. Oklahoma
8. West Virginia
9. Missouri
10. Georgia
11. Virginia Tech
12. HawaiiOK, so it's the Top-12. I couldn't figure out what to do with the rest.
LSU-PATS said:
posted on October 29, 2007 8:33 PM — 216.79.208.22 — link — abuse?
Out of all the teams in the top 10, LSU has played 5 ranked teams in 8 games, 5 IN 8 GAMES! IF you put OHIO ST., BC, AND OTHERS in those games LSU has played, they wouldn't come out with just 1 loss. If LSU wins the rest of their games including SEC CHAMPIONSHIP, then they will be in the "NC" game. I believe OREGON, ARIZONA ST., WEST VIRGINIA, OKLAHOMA, and KANSAS would give LSU a good game. Remember LSU is still a very good team, they lost a little glory especially on defense because of their brutal schedule. Playing teams FLORIDA, KENTUCKY, and AUBURN in a row will do it to you. GO TIGERS NC ALL THE WAY
gatorstud said:
posted on October 30, 2007 8:08 AM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
big tide...it's all good...i took your ribbing in fun....i know when we type it sometime comes out a lot worse than what we really mean....
i called the dawgs out...and i got my lunch handed to me....it's all good....
go gators...and hokies
posted on October 30, 2007 12:01 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Gatorstud: Michigan has snuck up on us, but that's the way it is this year, with all the upsets. At the end of the year, the teams ranked #11-25 will all have 2-3 losses or more. Don't be surprised to find one or two with 4 losses.
Michigan shook off the cobwebs and is now playing good ball. I might take them over the Bucs depending on where it's played this year.
Spartacus
posted on October 30, 2007 3:29 PM — 72.25.84.228 — link — abuse? said:
Well, the Trojans couldn't get it done. They just don't have the deep receivers that they've enjoyed in the past. Congrats to Oregon! They finally got the BIG win. So Cal had a chance to beat a good team and could not. I don't think it's over though. There are no excuses. It doesn't matter that Sanchez has had to step in. Georgia and Florida are playing with true soph QB's and Oklahoma has a redshirt freshman at the helm. It's not the QB that is the problem. It's possible that USC could end up 11-2 again and back in the TOP five. But, they will not win the Pac-10 or play in a BCS Bowl game this year.
I'm a little worried for LSU this weekend. I sure hope they don't suffer their second loss also. I'm not real excited about the prospects of Boston College or a Kansas getting into a National Championship game. I am willing to concede that if West Virginia wins out - that they may deserve to go. I would ditto that for LSU and Ohio State and Oklahoma. I don't think that BC or Kansas can get it done. Either Arizona State or Oregon could deserve it also - should they win out. I don't think Kansas can win four more and then survive Oklahoma at the end. No way! Two close wins over Colorado and Texas A&M tell me that. Likewise, BC has to win five more tough ACC games and then that Conference Championship. Maybe, but it will be real tough.
To be honest: I have never seen a year like this one in my life. It is incredible what is going on out there. I think that instead of thirty good teams - there must be around fifty of them this year. Ohio State looks as good as any team right now. But, there just does not seem to be any completely overpowering teams like there has been in the past. Very strange year. Some computer services have Kansas as the top team in the country. That pretty much says it all.Tommy Trojan
theBUCKEYEstopshere said:
posted on October 30, 2007 6:50 PM — 68.17.230.168 — link — abuse?
@49
Hey Tommy,
Have you looked ahead to next year and the year after that? USC vs. Ohio St. two of the most successful programs over the past five years squaring off should be huge. This year has been a weak OOC schedule for the bucks, although the Huskies probably were considered a tough game when it was scheduled. Think of this year as the eye of a hurricane, first two years of Texas then two years of USC.
QCHIMD said:
posted on October 30, 2007 7:01 PM — 70.234.214.37 — link — abuse?
Michigan Number 12? WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Have we forgotten that Michigan got handled by a Div I-AA (champ series team) at home to open the season, and then were embarrased by Oregon. Just because they can beat up on some overrated, slow big-ten teams, and Notre Dame, who has only won one game, doesn't mean they should be in the top 25, let alone, creeping up on the top ten. How can this madness happen?
Big Tide said:
posted on October 30, 2007 11:05 PM — 12.208.88.211 — link — abuse?
Here is the Vegas "Top Ten" from the Wynn Casino Sportsbook. Odds to win the 2008 National Championship.
LSU 3:2
Ohio St. 2:1
Oklahoma 3:1
Oregon 4:1
West Va. 6:1
Boston C. 6:1
Arizona St.8:1
Kansas 12:1
Sou. Cal. 40:1
Missouri 50:1
Hawaii 60:1Obviously, with the West Coast love affair for Southern Cal they would probably have a line for those guys with 5 losses. BC sure isn't getting any love in Sin City.
Click Quack said:
posted on October 31, 2007 12:49 AM — 128.223.197.77 — link — abuse?
A lot of questions surrounding the top 5 teams in the polls will be cleared up by the end of this week. The ASU @ Oregon game will likely be the deciding factor in who ends up winning the Pac-10 and the winner will continue to have a chance to make it to the National Championship game if a few things go their way. The loser of that game will have a chance for a Rose Bowl berth if the winner does, in fact, go to the NC game. As for the above statement regarding Michigan's reemergence into the top 15, I do not think there is any reason why they shouldn't be where they are. They are winning, which is ultimately what counts, and without their Heisman candidate running back in Mike Hart. Oregon is a very good team this year and the blowout was due to a mismatch of styles of play. Also, Applachian State is no slouch either despite the fact that they are Div. I-AA. Their style of offense was also a mismatch with the Michigan defense, which is a main reason for that defeat. Good luck to all and Go Ducks.
M GO BLUE said:
posted on November 1, 2007 1:16 PM — 216.46.213.208 — link — abuse?
#48 War Eagle Atlanta - Ohio state has to come to Michigan this year, but I don't think that matters, the Buckeye's are still a better team.
I am not sold on Michigan at #12.....YES I LOVE MICHIGAN, but how much better are we than week 1???
I think the illinois game was most telling of how our D is doing.
Playing on the road at Illinois, our D gave up 17.
Missouri hosting Illinois, gave up 34....Obviously we can play solid D against a spread, but we'll have to wait a couple of weeks to see how good the team as a whole is.Go Blue
gOSU27 said:
posted on November 1, 2007 6:36 PM — 207.74.25.36 — link — abuse?
who actually thinks that ASU is gonna beat Oregon????
i guess anything can happen...but it doesnt seem likely in this one
michigan has definantly improved..ill give them that
ohio state will have no prob w/ anyone until michigan
w/e anyone says, its always a good game
theBUCKEYEstopshere said:
posted on November 1, 2007 7:13 PM — 72.154.98.82 — link — abuse?
@56 Mr2bits
Whether your opinion of the Big10 is good or bad, the buckeyes can't change their conference schedule. I mentioned their OOC schedule because that is something they can change. Besides, when it’s all said and done with, I think people will realize this was actually a good year for the Big10. I think people just wrote the whole conference off when Michigan had a rough start, and people couldn't resist jumping on the Big10 bashing band wagon. If you step back and look at every team it’s been more competitive this year than ever. But I forgot unless you’re in a competitive conference named the SEC, then your conference must be weak.
wvu-togo said:
posted on October 28, 2007 8:12 PM — 74.46.213.208 — link — abuse?Can anyone out there tell me what teams top 10 teams that were in the pre-season ap/coaches polls and still remain in the top ten bcs polls?