January 8, 2008
2007-2008 Final College Football Top 25 Poll
The final college football polls for the 2007-2008 season
Associated Press College Football Top 25 Poll
First place votes shown in parenthesis, record, poll points, and last week
1 LSU (60) 12-2 1620 2
2 Georgia (3) 11-2 1515 4
3 Southern Cal (1) 11-2 1500 6
4 Missouri 12-2 1347 7
5 Ohio St. 11-2 1346 1
6 West Virginia 11-2 1342 11
7 Kansas (1) 12-1 1303 8
8 Oklahoma 11-3 1139 3
9 Virginia Tech 11-3 1096 5
10 Boston College 11-3 962 14
10 Texas 10-3 962 17
12 Tennessee 10-4 904 16
13 Florida 9-4 685 9
14 BYU 11-2 654 19
15 Auburn 9-4 648 22
16 Arizona St. 10-3 587 12
17 Cincinnati 10-3 566 20
18 Michigan 9-4 508 NR
19 Hawaii 12-1 460 10
20 Illinois 9-4 443 13
21 Clemson 9-4 353 15
22 Texas Tech 9-4 308 NR
23 Oregon 9-4 253 NR
24 Wisconsin 9-4 202 18
25 Oregon St. 9-4 110 NR
Writers with first place votes for teams other than LSU:
Georgia Scott Wolf (L.A. Daily News), Adam Van Brimmer (Savannah, Ga., Morning News-Augusta), Pete DiPrimio (Ft. Wayne, Ind., News-Sentinel)
Southern Cal Rodney McKissic (The Buffalo, NY, News)
Kansas Israel Gutierrez (The Miami Herald)
USA Today Coaches College Football Top 25 Poll
First place votes shown in parenthesis, record, poll points, and last week
1. LSU (60) 12-2 1,500 2
2. Southern California 11-2 1,380 6
3. Georgia 11-2 1,370 4
4. Ohio State 11-2 1,287 1
5. Missouri 12-2 1,241 7
6. West Virginia 11-2 1,239 9
7. Kansas 12-1 1,217 8
8. Oklahoma 11-3 1,016 3
9. Virginia Tech 11-3 979 5
10. Texas 10-3 924 17
11. Boston College 11-3 898 14
12. Tennessee 10-4 826 18
13. Arizona State 10-3 635 11
14t. Auburn 9-4 624 21
14t. Brigham Young 11-2 624 19
16. Florida 9-4 567 12
17. Hawaii 12-1 427 10
18. Illinois 9-4 416 13
19. Michigan 9-4 413 NR
20. Cincinnati 10-3 376 23
21. Wisconsin 9-4 333 15
22. Clemson 9-4 319 16
23. Texas Tech 9-4 242 NR
24. Oregon 9-4 192 NR
25. Penn State 9-4 127 NR
2007-2008 USA Today College Football Top 25 Poll Voters:
Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech; Mike Bellotti, Oregon; Bret Bielema, Wisconsin; Larry Blakeney, Troy; Bobby Bowden, Florida State; Tommy Bowden, Clemson; Jeff Bower, Southern Mississippi; Art Briles, Houston; Mack Brown, Texas; Bill Callahan, Nebraska; Neil Callaway, UAB; Lloyd Carr, Michigan; Mario Cristobal, Florida International; Sylvester Croom, Mississippi State; Bill Cubit, Western Michigan; Mark Dantonio, Michigan State; Butch Davis, North Carolina; Bill Doba, Washington State; Randy Edsall, Connecticut; Dennis Franchione, Texas A&M; Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee; Jeff Genyk, Eastern Michigan; Joe Glenn, Wyoming; Jim Grobe, Wake Forest; Dan Hawkins, Colorado; Pat Hill, Fresno State; Steve Kragthorpe, Louisville; Mike Leach, Texas Tech; Rocky Long, New Mexico; Sonny Lubick, Colorado State; Bill Lynch, Indiana; Doug Martin, Kent State; Les Miles, LSU; Shane Montgomery, Miami (Ohio); Hal Mumme, New Mexico State; Joe Novak, Northern Illinois; Houston Nutt, Arkansas; Tom O'Brien, North Carolina State; George O'Leary, Central Florida; Gary Patterson, TCU; Chris Petersen, Boise State; Mark Richt, Georgia; Mike Riley, Oregon State; Rich Rodriguez, West Virginia; Greg Schiano, Rutgers; Howard Schnellenberger, Florida Atlantic; Mark Snyder, Marshall; Frank Solich, Ohio; Steve Spurrier, South Carolina; Rick Stockstill, Middle Tennessee State; Bob Stoops, Oklahoma; Jeff Tedford, California; Joe Tiller, Purdue; Bob Toledo, Tulane; Dick Tomey, San Jose State; Jim Tressel, Ohio State; Tommy Tuberville, Auburn; Charlie Weis, Notre Dame; Tyrone Willingham, Washington; Ron Zook, Illinois.
Master Coaches Poll
1. LSU (15)
2. USC (1)
3. Georgia
4. West Virginia
5. Missouri
6. Ohio State
7. Kansas
8. Oklahoma
9. Texas
10. Virginia Tech
11. Tennessee
12. Boston College
13. Auburn
14. Florida
15. BYU
16. Michigan
17. Arizona State
18. Illinois
19. Texas Tech
20. Wisconsin
21. Clemson
22. Oregon
23. Hawaii
24. Cincinnati
25. Virginia
Comments:
posted on January 8, 2008 5:35 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
I think Auburn should have edged BYU and Florida. I also think that West Virginia and Kansas should be in the top 5. But then again, the tradionalist in me doesn't want to see Ohio State fall too far after losing in the big game.
Anyone ready for a playoff yet? But even if we did have an 8 or 16 team playoff, how would we seat the losers in the end? College football has to have a top 25 ranked when it's all said and done.
posted on January 8, 2008 5:39 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
gOSU27: Yea, if we had a playoff, we might never see the Bucks in the limelight again, huh? Why are you Big and Pac Ten folks such obstructionists when it comes to conference championships and national playoffs?
OBIBOOMER said:
posted on January 8, 2008 6:04 PM — 24.22.66.255 — link — abuse?
Lets see Oregon THUMPED Michigan in Ann Arbor, they both finished with 9-4 records, and Michigan lost to a division 2? school to start the season, Oregon's losses were all in the Pac-10. and yet Michiganis rated by 5 spots over Oregon! Hmmmmmm sounds like Big Ten bias to me. I came from the Michigan area, and ALWAYS the Big 10 is over rated! Once again, the world does not revolve around the Big 10!
kershawdw said:
posted on January 8, 2008 6:21 PM — 24.136.33.6 — link — abuse?
WAR EAGLE, the reason the Big ten and Pac 10 don't want a plus one system in my opinion is 2 fold, 1. They are scared that a plus one would interfere with their conferences getting automatic bids to the rosebowl and 2. They wouldn't be able to weasle their way into an undeserved National Championship game (allah this year), where they would embarrass themselves yet again by getting owned (cept for the first quarter lol).
It should be noted how big of a flip flopper UGA's President is, coming out in the passed couple of days saying there should be some sort of plus one, which is funny because last year he voted down talks of a plus one proposed by UF president Bernie Machen (vote was 11-2 against). Further proof that nobody cares until its their team on the loosing side of things.
gOSU27 said:
posted on January 8, 2008 6:26 PM — 207.74.25.36 — link — abuse?
War Eagle Atlanta--All teams have their up- seasons and down seasons. Ohio State, being #1, would have one of the easiest paths to the title game. Whether or not they made it, much less won, I don't know. All I know is that when it is considered a "down" year to even go to the NC game is an accomplishment in and of itself.
A playoff.....well first of all, I like the bowl games, tradition etc. But there would just be more arguments on which seed, which spot, and which teams would go to the playoffs. College football ranking is at the best it's going to get b/c of so many different conferences, and teams.
Now I would not be totally upset if a plus one format came instead of an 8-16 team playoff.OBIBOOMER-I think that it is more of baise towards established programs with great accomplishments in the past (as in the last 20 years). This is one of the reasons that it's not possible to make everyone happy in college football.
Spartacus
posted on January 8, 2008 6:33 PM — 71.103.218.167 — link — abuse? said:
Only five teams looked good to me: LSU, Georgia, West Virginia, USC and Oregon. The rest all looked pretty plain. Remind me to never bet on Oklahoma again. I lost my azz on that one. Bob Stoops is a moron. He plays his linebackers seven yards deep the entire game. Just enough room for White or Devine to find a seem in the line and make a move on any linebacker coming. Also, it gave the WV TE's and FB plenty of room to block those linebackers. Ingenius!
I agree that no way Michigan outranks Oregon. Even without Dixon - Oregon's dismantling of South Florida was amazing. I lost that one also - but was very pleased for Duck fans. West Virginia looked fantastic. Noel Divine is probably faster than Slaton and Stewart will make a great coach. It is good to see that the Mounties will roll on. USC and Georgia got me the big bucks as I was really sure that Georgia would pound Hawaii. So, I had claimed that Kansas, Hawaii and Illinois did not belong in the BCS and only Kansas showed me otherwise. Hats off to the Jayhawks who came away with a BCS win. Shut my mouth! Virginia Tech has increased the ACC's dismal showing in BCS bowl games to a paltry 1-9 or something to that effect. Sorry, SEC fans, I'm once again not overwhelmed by victory over overrated Big 10 teams. USC has been pounding those teams for forty years and now the BCS selection committee is spoon feeding them to you guys. It's really not that awe inspiring. I agree that LSU and Georgia are fantastic teams and I look for Georgia to be great next year. I just hope that they can somehow get the "other great team" up against Georgia for that one. I doubt if they'll ever let that happen.
But, seriously, Georgia, USC, Kansas and West Virginia could all have serious gripes about the whole situation - especially Kansas who only lost one game to a very good Missouri team. Interesting that the Georgia President is pushing for the exact same eight team playoff that I have been advocating all year long. Sharpest guy I've heard lately. But, of course, the BCS is only going to consider a silly plus-one scenario. That won't work because, as I've pointed out, four other teams still have serious gripes. Anyway, congrats to all Bowl winners, and let's get ready for another year.Tommie Trojan
Spartacus
posted on January 8, 2008 6:57 PM — 71.103.218.167 — link — abuse? said:
kershawdw:
Where do they get guys like you? "Further proof that nobody cares until its their team on the loosing side of things". Say what? Do you realize that 118 out of 120 teams get left out of the Championship game? I think just about everybody is interested in this subject all the time. LSU and Ohio State only "backed into" the game anyway. Neither team deserved it losing very late in the season. It's just that almost every other team (except for Southern Cal) lost late also. Had anybody been able to win a dayum game - neither LSU or Ohio State would have even been there.
Your comments about the Pac-10 "weaseling" into a Championship game are idiotic to say the least. I somewhat agree on the idea that the Big 10 is overrated. Southern Cal doesn't "weasle" into anything. In 2004 the "hammered" Oklahoma 55-14 and lost to Texas in 2005 by a couple of points in what many consider to be the greatest game ever played. The 2005 Texas team is also considered the greatest team of all time. USC was also considered to have probably have been the best team in 2006 also - but they lost to UCLA in their last game. And, son, it isn't much different this year either. USC and LSU are probably the two best teams - but we'll never get to see them play. Want to know why USC will never get to play an SEC team in a BCS bowl game (or any other good Pac-10 team)? It's because of people just like you! Your whole diluted perspective of college football would be smashed. You see, the South, puts more butts in those seats than any other region of the US. That is constantly being fed by the "idea" that any team from the South is better than any other team anywhere. You guys got something in the water down there? What is it that makes your players run faster, throw better, and jump higher? I really doubt if it's anything at all. Demographics, my friend, have everything to do with it. The South and the West are growing in population at alarming rates. Everybody is moving out of the upper-midwest and the midwest. That is why Big Ten and Big Twelve teams are gonna suffer in recruiting. Your players arent't really any better - you just have more of them. But, my friend, you do not have more than the West coast has. Should one of your "favorite teams" ever has to play USC for all the marbles - that's the day your gonna find out what is really going on.Tommie Trojan
posted on January 8, 2008 7:08 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
In case some of you have missed what Georgia President Michael Adams is proposing now with a 8 game playoff, here's the link to the AJC article. It's lengthy, but it's a must-read.
Kershawdw: Adams' arguement to why his proposal is better than (Florida President Bernie) Machen's last year is that he's better in a position of power to push the change than Machen was. That's a little arrogant, wouldn't you say? After all, these are the two guys who two years ago wanted everyone to (best Pee-Wee Herman voice) Please stop calling it a Cocktail party!!!!!!!
gOSU27: They want to keep the bowls intact for a playoff. The big four would be used as quarter-final games. The Big 10(11) and Pac 10(actually 10)need to quit clinging to the Rose Bowl, and they need to quit clinging to you, otherwise you all risk getting passed on by...
Spartacus
posted on January 8, 2008 7:10 PM — 71.103.218.167 — link — abuse? said:
Ron:
Come on, man! Pete never did any of the nonsense that Stoops did. Check it out. Oklahoma scores a TD and climbs back to within 20-15. The extra point would make it 20-16. Another Oklahoma TD would make it 23-20 Oklahoma. Stoops decides to go for two? Are you kidding me? What are you telling your team? "I have no faith that you can score another TD but you might get lucky and get a FG"? What? Nevertheless, Oklahoma fails on the two-point try. Score remains 20-15. Now, an Oklahoma TD can make it 21-20 and they'd have to try for two all over again to get back to 23-20 or else West Virginia can win it on a FG. Oh, but greater minds than mine are at work. Stoops decides to try for an onside kick instead of kicking off. His team has all the momentum and this idiot hands West Virginia another TD. Amazing! Anyway, that was the end of your Sooners. All this clown did was pronounce that "I have no faith in my team - we'll have to pull out the Boise State playbook to win this one". Think about it, Ron. I think Oklahoma had some momentum going before these two really bad calls. They should have played a 4-4-3 on defense also. They were respecting West Virginia's pass offense for some reason. Can't figure that one. So what if they got off two lucky passes all game. Seems like the running game is always the problem with WV. Can't remember the last time that Pat White ever threw for 300 yards. I can think of many times that they ran for over 400 yards though. And, if any team runs for even 300 yards your gonna get demolished. I was shocked at the idiocy of that defense they were in.
Tommie Trojan
gOSU27 said:
posted on January 8, 2008 7:15 PM — 207.74.25.36 — link — abuse?
TT-agreed
kershawdw-what college are you for?
Sure, the b10 is on the weaker half of the BCS conferences
You can say what you want about Ohio State, but whatever team you cheer for (besides LSU) you have no business putting down Ohio State like they are Notre Dame.None of you may agree with me but I would say that Ohio State could have been in that game. They killed themselves despite great coaching by Tress for the most part.
It all started with a dropped pass on 3rd down by Robiskie. Once again, a great scheme and play call, just a lack of execution by a normally sure-handed receiver.
Then Pretorius' kick got blocked, if only Pettrey wasn't injured earlier. And from there it went only downward.
For the rest of the game, Ohio State struggled on defense and alot of that came from penalty's.
By the end, I had lost hope. LSU obviously wasn't trying to score in the second half for most of the fourth quarter.
All that I can say now is that beanie is a great leader, and I can't wait until USC next year!!!
If the ranking stay the same, it should be #1 vs.#3 in only the 3rd week of the season!It's gonna be great, right Tommy.
OU-Ron
posted on January 8, 2008 7:28 PM — 68.12.216.68 — link — abuse? said:
Tommie, I don't think anyone will argue that Stoops didn't make a lot of bad calls in that game,as alot of coaches did this season, but I damn sure wouldn't call him a moron, but you don't pay a coach 4 mil to lose to Stanford either, if you're gonna call one a moron, well you get the picture.....
Spartacus
posted on January 8, 2008 7:33 PM — 71.103.218.167 — link — abuse? said:
gOSU27:
I was surprised to see that USC may be the pre-season #1 again. I presume that is a safe choice. Georgia and Ohio State should be there. Is Ohio State around #3? I would have thought that Ohio State might be favored and did not know that the game was in Los Angeles until just recently. We lose Booty and Sanchez or Mustain must take over. We'll be losing DT Sedrick Ellis and DE Lawrence Jackson. Jackson's spot will be taken over by Everson Griffen and there will be no drop-off there. DT Averill Spicer is slated to take over for Ellis and he should be solid. But, Ellis was an animal. If the D-Line is up to it, and the linebackers should be great again, then Boeckman seems to have trouble making decisions under pressure. He could be in trouble similar to what LSU did to him.
On offense, Sanchez is much more mobile than Booty was. Sanchez could be a great QB and they say his arm is better than Booty's and Leinert's and just below Palmer's. He did make some poor judgement's in the Oregon game. If Wells comes back for the Bucks - it'll be interesting. If not - Southern Cal will win the game. A win by either team entrenches that team for the remainder of the year as a favorite to get back into a BCS Championship game. It's very early in the year, and anything could happen, but I think that the Trojan's are gonna be very hungry and Ohio State might just be a little gun shy about the last two years.Tommie Trojan
Spartacus
posted on January 8, 2008 7:44 PM — 71.103.218.167 — link — abuse? said:
OU Ron:
It cost USC a chance at a Nationship Championship when Pete Carroll left Booty in the game (against Stanford) with a broken finger. Booty would throw four interceptions in that game. The same message was sent, "We don't have any faith in our backup QB, even though he was regarded #2 in his class, so we'll just stick with the guy with the broken hand". A truly moronic move. Had Sanchez played in that game USC wins it. He just could not beat Oregon - he would have beaten Stanford. That loss was too much to overcome. Pete Carroll will tell you himself - it was the worst decision that he made all year. Sanchez did start the next two games and won against Notre Dame and Arizona before tossing a 4th quarter interception that cost USC a chance of catching Oregon. In fact, Sanchez looked pretty good to me. I can't understand why he wasn't inserted into the Stanford game.
Tommie Trojan
gOSU27 said:
posted on January 8, 2008 7:48 PM — 207.74.25.36 — link — abuse?
Yes, Ohio State is #3. What year is Sanchez? Beanie is only a sophomore, so maybe we can get 2 possible more years out of him. That would be amazing! Your right about one thing, Boeckman isn't good with pressure and sometimes he feels pressure that is not there yet. I think now with a year of experience under his belt that he will be improved. I better hope so....Sanchez better make the most of the game before Ohio State.
What I think will be a huge factor for the Buckeyes is whether or not Malcolm Jenkins, Vernon Gholston, and James Laurinitas return. Of those three I would actually pick Gholston and Jenkins.
Just watching them, the achilles of the Trojans seems to be their WR's. The big TE is a senior right? I sure hope so, b/c that's how LSU beat Ohio State, Tight Ends.kershawdw said:
posted on January 8, 2008 10:12 PM — 24.136.33.6 — link — abuse?
SPARTACUS first and foremost for you to take offense when I say "weaseling their way into the bowl game" reaks of your insecurity? I would have hoped that you are smart enough to realize that was directed at the big ten. But hey if you think a team should play in the national championship who didn't beat a top 20 team all year than thats your ignorant prerogative.
Secondly their MUST be something in the water because the south has dominated National Championship Game appearences for the last 20+ years. Google Miami national Championship game appearances between 1983-2003, you'll be surprised, top that off with LSU's and UF's championships and d*mn this water down here in the south tastes good!I can't stand UF but I pray that the championship game next year is USC vs UF so you can find out what "southern football" is all about (and I don't mean the SEC)
lol @ you calling me sonWar Eagle- but its the fact that last year Adam's flat out didnt believe in any kind of playoff, and hung Machen out to dry (keep in mind the vote was to further the discussion and come up with a proposed system). But hold the phone, all of a sudden the music stops and Georgia hs no chair to sit in, NOW he wants to endorse talks about it, after his team got left out of the big dance. Machens team was firmly in the game (despite what michigan fans want to believe) well before the game was announced (you couldn't not put florida in with that schedule).Funny thing is I am not a Florida fan or an SEC fan for that matter but I am a fan of having a true national champion and not having a fraud play in the coveted game (like whats happened the past 2 years), other than the OSU fans I think all of us can agree on that.
Autigerman said:
posted on January 8, 2008 11:00 PM — 68.109.98.15 — link — abuse?
Not that i put a lot of stock in polls but how do you rank Tennessee ahead of Florida and Florida ahead of Auburn.
All are 4 loss teams but Auburn beat Florida in Florida and Florida crushed Tennessee.
Its not the only example but i guess i'll never figure out how these polls work.
If they cant get it right with teams that play so
many like teams and play each other,how can we expect them to get it right when it involves different conferences with no familar opponents.To me it would be no different then to say well LSU did beat OSU but we still think OSU is better so we will rank them higher.
Autigerman said:
posted on January 8, 2008 11:27 PM — 68.109.98.15 — link — abuse?
Ive got news for you a plus one wont work either.
Will it be better then what we have....prehaps but why not fix the problem.
What happens "and it will" when all 6 bcs conference champions have identicle records. Youll have to leave out 2 teams.
Under the plus one who would have played this year Georgia and LSU.And left out USC or West Virginia.IMO a WVU loss to Pitt was no worse then the last game drubbing that LSU took by unranked Arkansas.
Also the weak out of conference schedule played by OSU the last 2 years has vertually guaranteed them only a one loss season.
Well the system is broke and noone wants to fix it.
To me its a black eye on the greatest game on the planet.And it dosent seem that it would take a rocket scientist to fix it.
If there are 8 teams playing in BCS bowl games let them play an 8 team playoff.
You could still let the rose bowl have its rivalry
pac10 champ vs big 10.And same with the other bowls. Just let the 4 winning teams from those games play two more games and were done.
Yea you still have Missou on the ouside looking in but they had there chance and blew it against OU.
Jason said:
posted on January 9, 2008 12:35 AM — 74.182.58.249 — link — abuse?
@Spartacus on the Fiesta Bowl - I think going for 2 was an alright call. Being down by 5 points or being down by 4 points, you still need a TD to take the lead . Being down by 3 means you can tie it up with a field goal.
But I agree with you on the Onside Kick. OU had the momentum and their D just held WVU to 3 and out. It was a stupid call and it was the nail in the coffin for that game. As a Sooner fan, it turned my stomach when I watched that kick.
OU Fan said:
posted on January 9, 2008 1:34 AM — 139.139.51.70 — link — abuse?
Spartacus post #19, I agree to your post to an extent. I do not agree that Bob Stoops is a moron. The defensive coordinator Brent Venables is the moron. I think the problem with Bob is that he won't step in and take charge when the time is calling for him to step in and take charge. Spartacus, OU has been running that same defense all season. Sometimes it was successful. But most of the time it was not, and opposing teams could score at will. The OU offense is what kept OU from losing, but even then the offense had their struggles against Colorado and Texas Tech. And speaking of the offense, how about them West Virginia defensive ends? They were just too fast for OU's enormous offensive line. Being that big will not do you any good if you're too slow. And why the hell was Oklahoma playing to stop the pass? I have no idea. It beats me. Hell, if OU would let me be the defensive coordinator, I would make major changes. Spartacus, I do agree with you 100% on the onside kick. Some people say it was a good call and that OU had the momentum which they did, but I think it was a horrible call and it was way too early to even think about kicking an onside kick. OU should have kicked the ball deep. The OU defense had consecutive 3 and outs and like you said, the momentum was on the Sooners' side plus the score was cut to 20-15. Make West Virginia work for their field position. Instead, Hartley jacks up the kick and West Virginia recovers with great field position. 5 to 6 plays later, 27-15 West Virginia. That was the turning point in the game. And Spartacus, I have to agree on the PAT attempt as well. I would have had my team kick the field goal and make the score 20-16. And TE likes to compare Sam Bradford to Ohio States QB Boekman(did I spell it right?) He says Boekman had the Sam Bradford syndrome. All I have to say is that Sam Bradford was a freaking true freshman this past season. Sam Bradford is better than most starting QB's in Divison 1 football. Sam Bradford set a new record for touchdown passes in a single season by a freshman. Bradford had a better pass efficiency rating that Tim Tebow. Spartacus, something needs to change on the Oklahoma coaching staff in my opinion. I think its time Stoops finds another defensive coordinator. Some OU fans might disagree with me, but this is my opinion. However, its unlikely to happen. Stoops and Venables are good friends. And Spartacus, are you sure Sanchez is going to be the stud that you're making him out to be next season? I have watched him a couple of times. I don't have stats to lay out for you, but he looked average if that to me. I think USC will continue from what they were this season and will become a dominant running team. As to the West Virginia loss, hey shit happens. Right? USC lost at home to Stanford at USC. Broken finger or not, USC should have won that game. BOOMER SOONER!
gOSU27 said:
posted on January 9, 2008 7:24 AM — 207.74.25.36 — link — abuse?
AUTigerfan--Ohio State may have played a weak schedule this year, but last year they were the first team to play the #2 ranked team twice in one year, and win both time. Last year it was Texas and Michigan. Actually, they also played #2 ranked Florida, and lost.
FanoftheGame said:
posted on January 9, 2008 9:40 AM — 198.211.223.194 — link — abuse?
When will they ever learn to stop ranking teams until after week 6? Preseason polls are a joke.
Hopefully I will see a playoff system put into action in my lifetime. I would love to see who becomes the first true national champion.
Autigerman said:
posted on January 9, 2008 9:51 AM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?
gOSU27
I wasnt trying to cause any heartburn with the OSU fans.
Its just an observation ive made over the last few years.
OSU seems to be allowing their out of conference schedule to become weaker and weaker.
They did play Texas last year but beyound that they played noone out of conference.
They are not the only team scheduling cupcakes.
Since Auburn had a cupcake ooc schedule in 04 and didnt play for the title they have scheduled a lot of quality teams.
Just seems to me that OSU has found a formula to the BCS. I cant blame them seems to work.
Autigerman said:
posted on January 9, 2008 9:55 AM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?
GOSU27
Doesnt OSU have USC coming up soon?
I thought they were going to schedule a two year seris with them. That would be a great seris i think.
Would also go along way to shut up critics like me who sometimes should just keep there thoughts to themselves.
posted on January 9, 2008 11:58 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
There's two guys on this thread whose posts I enjoy reading, but they make it soooooo difficult by not seperating their chunk of words into paragraphs. It's a lot easier on the eyes, makes it easier to follow, etc. I know I'm not your English teacher, but I'm just saying...
gOSU27 said:
posted on January 9, 2008 1:08 PM — 207.74.25.36 — link — abuse?
Hmmm, yeah, Jim Tressel seems to try to normally schedule one tough ooc game, along with michigan, who is normally tough.
Yes, they are begining a series with USC, I think it's gonna be good and it starts in the colesium next year 3 weeks into the season. Based on pre-season rankings, it should be #1 vs #3.You are right though, Ohio State ooc schedule includes Youngstown St., and Kent State. Troy usually proves a challenge for some bigger teams.
Yeah, we need to win 2-3 big games every year in the season to gain trust of the BCS, and still prepare for the NC game.
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on January 9, 2008 1:24 PM — 67.97.209.36 — link — abuse?
#29: The surest way to make any university president, AD, or coach into a supporter of a playoff system is to screw his team out of an appearance in the BCS championship game. Once enough teams have been screwed over, we will have a playoff system for NCAA football. If Hawaii had beaten UGA in the Sugar Bowl this year, we'd probably have had a playoff system next year.
Mea culpa...
In fairness to the poll voters who did not send UGA to the title game, I personally didn't think they were that good either (until I saw them demolish Hawaii). I'm so accustomed to hearing dawg fans woofing (literally) about how they will win the NC this (i.e. every) year that I voluntarily tune them out, as the woofing typically begins about 3 months before the season and ends immediately after the second loss.
As it worked out, I certainly agree that LSU, UGA, and USC are the top three teams in the country as of now, but it would have been better to decide this on the field instead of in the voting "booth" (IMO).
FromUVM said:
posted on January 9, 2008 1:39 PM — 76.30.254.215 — link — abuse?
It would always be better to decide on the field, unfortunately it almost never happens. Until there is a playoff this will always be the case. Every year the two teams in the BCS NC game are based on opinion. You can't compare schedules of teams with similar records and say who is better, they have to play to determine that. Last year Florida making th NC game was based on opinion, just like OSU.
Two reasons I like a playoff.
1. Anything can happen with 4-5 weeks off, it is almost like the first week of the season.
2. If you have to beat at least two top teams in back-to-back weeks during a playoff it says more than winning your conference championship because some conferences DO have weaker schedules. That doesn't mean that they are a weaker team though. Win a couple playoff games and there will be NO question, win ONE tough bowl game and you only proved that you can beat a good team with 4 weeks preparation.Until it happens I will always be a proponent of switching to a playoff. Until then there will ALWAYS be questions about who the best team is, just like this year.
TE
posted on January 9, 2008 2:11 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
It's awesome up here, man...
I've spent the past two days using the heck out of Google's News Feature...Lotsa love for the Tigre's this year, and a lot of people are counting us out...
Read McCready's piece in the Register today...We ain't going nowhere...What's crazy is you saw the guys who are going to replace the guys we lose on defense on the field in the National Championship go berserk in the game...
Rickey Jean-Francois was the D-MVP, and Harry Coleman might've actually been an improvement over Steltz, who got sucked in on that Wells TD on a trademark read and react too quickly...
But, before I digress into my first guest column too soon (Wink, Wink WEA), lemme get this back on track...
Don't sleep on LSU next year...We have to travel to Gainesville & Columbia...Those are the two toughest tilts...Georgia isn't until October 25th, and it's in Tiger Stadium. So is the tilt with the Tide from Tuscaloosa...
Auburn's at Jo(uu)rdan Hare, but you guys are breaking in a new OC and I'm not sold on Cox's replacements ability to throw (and neither, evidently, is Tuberville), and did I mention you also lost Muschamp?
LSU could make another run in a down year for the West...
But, now isn't the time for peeking into the future...It's for making plans for October 19th, when we have a celebration in Tiger Stadium planned for the team and the Crystal!!!!!!!
Man, it was awesome to see Monday night, wasn't it? To see Tressel and his team come out for the 2nd half with that contrived emotion and fake enthusiasm, and then see LSU just come out and crush their dreams and smash all hope...
That was a seriously gratifying experience, fellas...
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on January 9, 2008 2:24 PM — 74.185.133.40 — link — abuse?
#44: FromUVM sez...
"Last year Florida making th NC game was based on opinion, just like OSU."
The irony of last year's game is before the game was played, everyone was questioning Florida's "right" to be there and after the game the question shifted to OSU.
gatorstud said:
posted on January 9, 2008 2:49 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
funny...i just looked at rivals.com's preseason poll for next year...they have usc as no. 1....but this is the explanation as to why....
"Putting USC at the top is a safe pick because the Trojans annually win their conference, earn a BCS bid and play their best at the end of the season"......
good thing they went the SAFE way..instead of the right way....
preseason polls are for idiots...and ranking high school recruits is ridiculous....
go gators.....oh, and of course trojans..."just to be safe"...
posted on January 9, 2008 3:07 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Ramblin: Don't feel bad about leaving Georgia out of any title game. You just can't reward a team for failing to get into their conference championship, pure and simple. Frankly, I don't think you should award a team for playing in a conference without a conference title game, either...
TE: Yes, a warm welcome awaits the purple Tigers inside the friendly confines of Juurdan-Hare this coming season. Having seen the last 5 LSU games at home, I can't imagine that I'll miss it. We'll have the corndogs steamed waiting on ya!
Autigerman said:
posted on January 9, 2008 3:16 PM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?
Well it was a great season.But i do feel as though the post season was once again a let down.
Not to say i didnt enjoy the Auburn win over Clemson. And there were a few exciting games.
But there is just something about the BCS games that just dosent capture for me the same enthusiasm as the regular season.
Prehaps its the lay off, maybe its the let down of the frequent championship game blowouts.
When was the last time we had a good championship game from start to finish.
Im sure LSU fans are estatic and rightfully so but to many of us it was a blow out that many lost interest in after the first half.
I hope some day college football will quit worrying about trying to preserve the integrity of the regular season by allowing the post season to suffer.
It could be imo the absolute greatest sporting event around to have an 8 team playoff. Could you imagine as an example West Virgina vs USC, Georgia vs LSU,winner to meet for the title.
Bevo Boy said:
posted on January 9, 2008 3:32 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Autigerman, what about January 4, 2006? That was an excellent championship game, not just because of the result (Texas 41, USC 38). Announcers started implying that Texas could by no means come back, then all of a sudden Texas takes a 3 point lead with :19 in the 4th quarter. Excellent championship game.
gOSU27 said:
posted on January 9, 2008 3:48 PM — 207.74.25.36 — link — abuse?
Also January 1, 2007, Boise State vs. Oklahoma. Final? 43-42 Double-Overtime
Of course this year there was less excitement, but next year or the year after will be just as good
Oh ya, can't forget, January 4, 2002, Ohio State-31 Miami-24
Classic. I wish that I could say something about one of the past two years.
HeHateMe said:
posted on January 9, 2008 4:04 PM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
#27 Spartacus,
I'm playing the worlds smallest violin!
Cry me a river.....and I will drive my boat up it....to southern Cal and show you LSU's 2007 BCS natn'l championship trophy!
And if you play your cards right....I'll bring the 2003 BCS trophy also....and you can try to guess which one is which.
Dr. J. said:
posted on January 9, 2008 5:39 PM — 68.155.70.107 — link — abuse?
After the BCS national championship game, we once again saw why the Big 10 has held on for dear life to its Rose Bowl contract--it doesn't want its champion to have to play the best team from the south. Instead, it can go to the Rose Bowl and occasionally beat the Pac 10 champ and claim a national title in the polls, rather than on the playing field. This is not just a recent development, however. 40 years ago the best team from the south would have mauled the Big 10 champ. And the Big 10 knew it.
Spartacus
posted on January 9, 2008 5:57 PM — 71.103.218.167 — link — abuse? said:
OU Fan:
I did have Oklahoma down as a great team. That Tampa2 defense is fine for Texas Tech - but not good for West Virginia. You have to spy and hit both the QB and RB before they have the chance to turn upfield. You have to crowd the line of scrimmage. Now, I was not aware until gametime that three starters off that defense was missing, including Reggie Smith out of the secondary - but that was no reason to panic. I just thought that the defensive strategy was all wrong for West Virginia.
As for Bradford: I've seen him start off shaky a couple of different times. Both times he did a great job of righting himself and having a good game. Malcolm Moore went down but that Chaney kid stepped in and was fantastic. This was all right after the announcers had proclaimed that Oklahoma had no depth at receivers. What a joke! Oklahoma probably has the most depth at that position in the country. Your right, Oklahoma's offense has carried the team. I have no doubt that the Sooners would have racked up forty had they been able to get the ball out of Pat White's hands. Bradford is the real deal and Oklahoma will be even better next year. Hopefully, that defense can get a little more aggressive by then.
I'm not so sold on Sanchez and I'm not claiming that he will be a great QB - but he might be. We also have Mitch Mustain and Aaron Corp waiting in the wings. Mustain will be a RS Soph and Corp will be a RS Frosh next year. Mustain was rated above both Stafford and Tebow and Corp was rated about 6th in his class. Corp is gonna be alot like Colt McCoy - as he has some real wheels. So, QB should be fine for the Trojans. The receivers are gonna be very good next year. They were very young this year and there just wasn't that guy to step up and light it up like there has been in the past. Patrick Turner looks like he was overrated to me. He's okay but not dominate. Vidal Hazelton has some really slick moves once he gets the ball - but they used the All-American TE Fred Davis alot. Davis Ausberry, only a freshman last year, looks like he'll be the next great one. Ronald Johnson, also just a freshman, looks like a great one to me also. And, next year we'll add the transfer from Arkansas, Demetrius Williams. He's had a year in the system and we'll see what he's got. The TE next year will be Anthony McCoy who looks solid.
But, the running game is gonna be a monster. The OL will be fine, no matter what we're losing, as there are some fantastic OL people steppin' up. But, the backs are amazing. Marc Tyler was redshirted this year and was said to be the best of them. He'll be a freshman next year. I thought that Stafon Johnson was great and then Joe McKnight took his spot. CJ Gable will also be back as a RS Soph next year. We got a big bruiser in Broderick Green, who was also redshirted, and will enter the mix as a freshman next year. We'll have to run it about 50 times a game to keep all these guys happy somehow. I don't know how. Hopefully, Pete Carroll does.Tommie Trojan
gatorstud said:
posted on January 9, 2008 6:13 PM — 71.115.83.216 — link — abuse?
hehateme....#53....while your there i am sure that spartacus (aka tommie trojan) can show you the hardware that usc has piled up from national titles to heisman winners...i am sure they have more than TWO trophies in their case......you really put up a stupid post....
go gators....
FromUVM said:
posted on January 9, 2008 8:17 PM — 76.30.254.215 — link — abuse?
#46 Ramblin' Gator - That is my point exactly. Who ever makes the game is all based on opinion, you think that Florida was the only team that could have beat OSU last year? No way.
I have no problem with opinion giving 8 teams a chance, then let them prove it on the field.
Autigerman said:
posted on January 10, 2008 9:53 AM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?
Hehateme #53 epitomizes the very reason why i pulled for OSU to win Monday.
Deemed a traitor to some for not supporting the SEC I figured I could deal with it.
But to no prevail LSU pulled it out and now i have to endure this for a few months.
HeHateMe said:
posted on January 10, 2008 11:10 AM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
Well so much for a sense of humor!
gatorstud #56
Tommie T is a big boy...so I think he can stick up for himself!
Also....LSU actually has 3 natn'l championships....last time I checked thats 1 more than your gators!
Another thing.....everbody is well aware of USC's accolades....we are reminded daily by the media's constant praise....even when they commit the "Cardinal" sin, and lose to Sranford....at home.....favored by 41!
So stop crying b/c you couldn't get the job done at home either! See you at Tiger Stadium in '08!spartacus #57
I pray for the LSU vs USC matchup just as much as you! I think that it would save the BCS temorarily if they both met for the title in '08!
Another thing Tommie T....since Ohio St is not a worthy opponent to you....does this make USC's occ schedule just as weak as it always is for 2008...or are you gonna lose to them at home too!
Autigerman #59 P.S. "You can't seem, You can't touch me"
hate hate hate
if they're hatin....we must be doing something right!
LSU, your 2007 National Champions! Geaux Tigers!
TE
posted on January 10, 2008 11:42 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
I'm not going to gloat, throw anything in anyone's face, or proclaim one set of accomplishemnts or championships is greater than another...
What I am going to say is in re: to Spartacus in #57...
You better be glad you didn't play us in 2003, or this year, either...
Your offense was a world beater-against some really, really, and I mean REALLY overmatched opponents...
We beat Florida, Auburn, Virginia Tech, Ohio State, Tennessee, South Carolina, Alabama, & Mississippi State...Every one of which was bowl eligible. Two of which won their Division in their conference. TWO of which won their conference championships. Half of which won their bowl games. All of which spent time in the Top 25 at some point this year. Five of which ended the year in the Top 25.
We beat Tennessee & South Carolina, whom #2(or 3 depending on your poll) could not...
We beat Frank Beamer, Steve Spurrier, Urban Meyer, Tommy Tuberville, Nick Saban, Phil Fulmer, & Jim Tressel this year...
You beat Ron Zook...and how many teams did you beat in the Top 20 this year?
You guys lost with your backup quarterback...Heck, you couldn't even win with your STARTER (but we'll get to that game in a minute!)...
We, on the other hand, played two games with our backup, won both of them, one of which-oh by the way-was our CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME...
Did we mention our backup was the MVP of that game? Regale us all as to how Mark Sanchez did in Autzen Stadium?
Oh, and remind me about whether or not Matthew Stafford of UGA was available for the South Carolina & Tennessee losses?
Yeah, that's what I thought...
Sparty...You've got a lot of nerve to run your yap about this year...LSU proved it on the field...against Top 25 competition...
You guys? Well...Better luck with Stanford next year...Have fun talking about what all those mighty Pac-10 teams you smoked...
This is the part where you go fix me a sammich, Sparty...
gatorstud said:
posted on January 10, 2008 12:35 PM — 71.115.83.216 — link — abuse?
hehateme...you didn't hurt yourself jumping on the lsu bandwagon did ya....didn't see you on here until lsu won....now all of a sudden your te's best freind....why don't you stop slobbin on te's knob, come up w/ a real name, pick a school you wish you went to and stick to it..through thick or thin for twenty years and then come back and run your mouth.....
my comment wasn't about lsu or their title or its fans..it was a comment about someone wanting to show off their bling to someone else who ownes a jewelry store....that all nothing else...
so get over it you tool.....and wipe your face...you've got te all over it....
go gators.....
HeHateMe said:
posted on January 10, 2008 2:15 PM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
Gatorstud
Your hilarious....nice try with bandwagon remark!
1)Yeah it's been a while since I've posted! A new email address inspired a new name. Formally known as BayouBengal....but since the LSU championship rattled all of you haters....I figured HeHateMe would suffice!
2)For your information....I'm all LSU, class of '98 right here son...havn't missed a home game in 3 years
3)This past monday night (jan 7th)....while you were nursing your Big Blue hangover...I was in the Louisiana Super Dome representing the class of the SEC....section 301....row 17....seat 22.
With that said....feel free to take your foot out of your mouth!
I was just poking a little humor towards Tommie T...but you apparently were choking down a mouth full of TT yourself!
Dry your eye's!
P.S. Tim Tebow wins Heisman's......not championships....you either need a good deffense or Chris Leak to pull that off!
Geaux Tigers
gatorstud said:
posted on January 10, 2008 2:52 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
hehateme.....aka bayoubengal..blah..blah..blah....look at you getting all up on yourself with accolades of self importance...blah...blah...blah....all you did is beat a ohio state team that we beat last year....and last years ohio state team was better than this years.....so how does that sloppy seconds taste ..lol...
but it was a good win for lsu..and for the sec...you guys had a good year (scary sometimes), but good....but i wouldn't go betting on a good seson next year if les keeps taking chances like he did this year...theyre were some games that miles must of felt like he got away with murder....crazy decision making....
nursing a big blue hangover...well..that part wuz true...i have a loud mouth brother-in-law who has two teeth in his head and loves michigan....i needed all the booze i could get my hands on....
and as far as the tebow vs championships comment....he has one....and should contend for another next year....tigers have to come to g-ville next year, and the result will be the same as the last time you visited....tebow will only get better..and so will that young defense....
i believe that the sec will pull off the nat. title hat trick next year...with florida winning of course....
go gators.....
HeHateMe said:
posted on January 10, 2008 3:18 PM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
gatorstud...the sloppy seconds tasted pretty damn good....Ohio better last year????? They were the #1 def in the country! Until Dorsey got healthy!
As far as me getting up on myself with accolades....I'm gonna chalk that up to just being excited about our N.C.
It's hard to come off humble when everyone is trying to discredit our win over OSU!
Yes....it was a scary season, but we overcame huge injuries and close games....and won it all.I respect Tebow for sure....It just sucks playing against one man....and struggling to find a way to stop him, but I think a dominate def trumps his one man show is all I'm saying.
I do see the SEC championship trifecta just around the corner....so you and Tebow take care of Georgia and me and Perilloux will take of Aurburn, and I'll see you in Atlanta....with hopefully...the title game on the line!
Geaux Tigers
Zac said:
posted on January 12, 2008 10:36 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
HeHateMe, just a couple of things, then, I'll let it be. I don't see "everyone" trying to discredit LSU's NC. Many of us here, myself included, thought the NC game might be between LSU & USC. It didn't happen that way; that's college football. Are you or TE right and Spartacus wrong? The correct answer to that is "neither". Since LSU & USC didn't play, we'll never know.
The "Hate" part of your name. A lot of guys get on here and seriously rag on their team's rival team's success. Fans like that are often labeled "haters". Now, before I continue, you do as you see fit. You are who you are, and you will live your life as you will. But, I don't like the word Hate. While within the context of your name or handle it's obviously not intended to breed contempt, it sadly rings out loud and clear. In my opinion, it diminishes you.
Now, I don't hate you. I don't hate LSU. I can't even say I have a healthy dislike for anyone here, let alone their team's, programs, or coaching staff. But, I miss the BayouBengal of old. I'd like to have him back, and that's just me talking. Thanks for listening.
Zac said:
posted on January 12, 2008 11:08 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Now, about these polls…I really don't have a hard spot with them. I have no issue with MO being ranked higher than WVU. MO's only losses were to 11-3 OK. Yes, WVU did beat OK. That doesn't mean MO couldn't have beaten WVU. The point is, MO went 12-2 against a schedule with a decent winning record, not to mention, they absolutely ruled their bowl game against an AR team that beat LSU on the Tiger's home field.
I have no hard spot with OSU getting to the NC or being ranked higher than WVU. No, they didn't play a typical OSU regular season schedule. In fact, that schedule had an over-all loosing record. However, with the exception of the close win against MI St and the ever emotional game at MI (not to mention the loss at home to IL), OSU was decidedly successful, as they should have been, against their schedule (Shades of WVU's 2006 schedule, not to mention similar criticism.). OSU's losses came at the hands of 9-4 IL and of course 12-2 LSU. WVU lost at 9-4 S FL and at home to 5-7 Pitt.
I agree with Obiboomer (Post 10). OR should be ranked higher than MI. Though, now that Appy St has won their 3rd consecutive Div-2 NC, I maintain MI's loss at home to Appy St isn't as big a deal as some would still have us believe.
I disagree with Autigerman (Post 31), "IMO a WVU loss to Pitt was no worse then the last game drubbing that LSU took by unranked Arkansas."
Yes, AR did put up some serious offensive numbers against a defense that seriously shut down VA Tech, among others. However, both of LSU's losses came in 6 OT's by a total of 8 pts. Not exactly what I'd call being "drubbed".I do agree, given none of this season's best teams stepped forward to "take" the NC, this would have been a model season for a play-off. While the "system" is broke, I don't believe no one wants to fix it. I don't think they know how.
Lace Curtains said:
posted on January 12, 2008 12:09 PM — 72.71.113.81 — link — abuse?
Isn't long overdue for a playoff system to be put in place? I know the big bowls have invested huge sums of money into college football, but Division IA football is still the only NCAA major sport without a playoff system.If baseball and basketball can work out an equitable system, why can't the university AD's, presidents and bowl representives work something out?
I believe the vast majority of collge football fans would prefer a playoff system over the present system!
Why doesn't somebody take a poll, and if I'm right, let's do something for the college football fans (along with TV money)that ultimately finance the sport.
Lace Curtains said:
posted on January 12, 2008 12:10 PM — 72.71.113.81 — link — abuse?
Isn't long overdue for a playoff system to be put in place? I know the big bowls have invested huge sums of money into college football, but Division IA football is still the only NCAA major sport without a playoff system.If baseball and basketball can work out an equitable system, why can't the university AD's, presidents and bowl representives work something out?
I believe the vast majority of collge football fans would prefer a playoff system over the present system!
Why doesn't somebody take a poll, and if I'm right, let's do something for the college football fans (along with TV money)that ultimately finance the sport.
Lace Curtains said:
posted on January 12, 2008 12:12 PM — 72.71.113.81 — link — abuse?
Isn't long overdue for a playoff system to be put in place? I know the big bowls have invested huge sums of money into college football, but Division IA football is still the only NCAA major sport without a playoff system.If baseball and basketball can work out an equitable system, why can't the university AD's, presidents and bowl representives work something out?
I believe the vast majority of collge football fans would prefer a playoff system over the present system!
Why doesn't somebody take a poll, and if I'm right, let's do something for the college football fans (along with TV money)that ultimately finance the sport.
Lace Curtains said:
posted on January 12, 2008 12:12 PM — 72.71.113.81 — link — abuse?
Isn't long overdue for a playoff system to be put in place? I know the big bowls have invested huge sums of money into college football, but Division IA football is still the only NCAA major sport without a playoff system.If baseball and basketball can work out an equitable system, why can't the university AD's, presidents and bowl representives work something out?
I believe the vast majority of collge football fans would prefer a playoff system over the present system!
Why doesn't somebody take a poll, and if I'm right, let's do something for the college football fans (along with TV money)that ultimately finance the sport.
Timothy said:
posted on January 14, 2008 11:31 AM — 76.79.33.230 — link — abuse?
This last year showed a shake up with coaching and staff changes,Callahan is a good coach but in my opinion he tried somehting that didn't work so well. Implementating a proset west coast offense and it works in the pros because they get returning players for years not the 4 years or so in the collage ranks which by the time 4 yrs go by the west coast offense hadn't really sunk in. I like Pelini who has a good defensive mind and stated he will use the rushing or run and shoot I just wonder if 1 or 2 even 3 years before we move back into the top 20 and Bowl eligible
Zac said:
posted on January 14, 2008 1:40 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
BayouBengal (Post 77), COOOL!!!
Timothy (Post 78), in my opinion there was more to Callahan's failure as HC than the West Coast Offense. In fact, his offense was coming around; it was the defense which had become porous, and special teams did little to really compliment either the offense or defense. I think Pelini will tighten things down quite a bit on that side of the ball; the defense should vastly improve. How well the offense moves will depend upon who he's chosen for his OC (Callahan would actually have been good.), and whether or not Pelini allows his OC to do his job.
Don't expect Rich Rodriguez Results; i.e. a likely bad 1st year, followed by a decent 2nd year. Rather, I think we can expect a couple of so-so years before things really begin to pick up; provided they're going to pick up. Within 3-5 years we should know. Till then, cross your fingers.
Tomcat said:
posted on January 16, 2008 7:37 PM — 69.153.80.147 — link — abuse?
#55 Tommie T I would like to remind you that Texas Tech beat Oklahoma, so appearntly The Tampa 2 you refer to is not OK for Texas Tech, guess it didnt work against the CU Buffs-Dont know, didnt see it. I do know that every game is different and the Sooners beat Texas, Miami and Missu twice so they had something working.
Hookem-Horns
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Reno said:
posted on January 8, 2008 4:59 PM — 12.129.87.3 — link — abuse?Maybe the reason teams like Florida play such a weak non-conference schedule is because we have to play the likes of LSU, Georgia, Tennessee, and Auburn every year, not to mention Florida State, Kentucky, and 3 other SEC foes (7-2 in bowl games this year for the conference).
LSU deserves the championship trophy, although I believe Georgia would have done just as well had they not been overlooked for the title game. USC fans will claim their team was just as good, but did they even play more than 1 team in the top 15 this year? LSU and Georgia had far better resumes to show the voters.
I wish UF hadn't laid that egg against Big Blue; their defense needs to grow a great deal this off-season, particularly in the secondary. I wonder where Will Hill will fit in when he arrives later this year... Patrick Johhson would have been an immediate starter, something he won't get to do at LSU.
Kudos to all 5 SEC teams in the final polls!
Go Gators!