February 4, 2008
Which teams fit the profile to be 2008 BCS Champions?
Olin Buchanan has a great piece at Rivals breaking down the common characteristics of the ten BCS championship teams.
Some of the characteristics are obvious (play in a BCS conference, as no mid-major has won a BCS title), but some are fairly insightful (return at least six starters from a top-40 defense).
CHARACTERISTICS OF A BCS CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM 1. Play in a "BCS conference" 2. Post at least seven victories the previous season 3. Win the previous season's bowl 4. Have an upperclassman quarterback with starting experience 5. Return at least six starters from a top-40 defense
While there are a gaggle of teams that meet three or more of the characteristics, there there are only six teams that meet all five for the 2008 season:
Wake Forest Demon Deacons
1. ACC
2. 9-4
3. Won the Meineke Car Care over UConn (24-10)
4. QB Riley Skinner
5. Sevens starters - #27 defense in 2007
Rutgers Scarlet Knights
1. Big East
2. 8-5
3. Won the International Bowl over Ball State (52-30)
4. QB Mike Teel
5. Eight starters - #17 defense in 2007
Kansas Jayhawks
1. Big XII
2. 12-1
3. Won the Orange Bowl over Virginia Tech (24-21)
4. QB Todd Reesing
5. Nine starters - #12 defense in 2007
USC Trojans
1. Pac10
2. 11-2
3. Won the Rose Bowl over Illinois (49-17)
4. QB Mark Sanchez
5. Seven starters - #2 defense in 2007
Alabama Crimson Tide
1. SEC
2. 7-6
3. Won the PetroSun Independence Bowl over Colorado (30-24)
4. QB John Parker Wilson
5. Six starters - #31 defense in 2007
Georgia Bulldogs
1. SEC
2. 11-2
3. Won the Sugar Bowl over Hawaii (41-10)
4. QB Matt Stafford
5. Nine starters - #14 defense in 2007
That's it. Those are your six teams that meet the BCS champions' profile.
There are exceptions to the profile, of course. Tennessee won the title with inexperienced Tee Martin and fewer returning starters on defense. And five teams have won the BCS without winning their bowl game the year prior.
Of the six, three are extremely shaky at best when you start talking national championships. Profile or no, I think you would be hard pressed to find too many folks who would put much stock in selecting Alabama, Wake Forest, or Rutgers as the potential champs. Each of these teams looks to be (at least) a year away from playing at a national championship level, in my opinion.
On the flip side, Kansas, Georgia, and USC will definitely be at the top of most preseason polls. All three were not only ranked not just in the top 40 on defense, but in the top 15. The three won ten games during the regular season and each won a BCS bowl game. I think you have to look at all three teams much more favorable than their fellow list-mates.
Who's missing from the list? LSU, Texas and West Virginia missed the defensive side of the equation, returning fewer than six starters. Oklahoma and Florida were put out on both the bowl game criteria, while the Gators also missed on the "upperclassman" status of QB Tim Tebow while the Gators also missed being ranked in the top forty defeneses. (Florida finished with the #41 defense.)
But the formula is there and it's hard to argue with the history. Of course there are exceptions, but that just "proves" the rule, right?
Comments:
TE
posted on February 4, 2008 12:59 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse?
said:
BigTide,
Saw you on another thread...Crowing about recruiting? Guess you've got to have SOMETHING to crow about when you haven't beaten Auburn or LSU in five years, and you lost to both of them, along with MSU & ULM this year as well...
Congrats on the "big win" against Colorado, and the "big take" you guys have in recruiting...Tell me who founded Rivals again? Are the guys ranking the players the same ones who changed a 2* guy that Saban signed to a 4* guy...The day after he signed with 'Bama?
Yeah...I'd hang my hat on that #1 ranking...Go talk to Mack Brown about national championships in February...
As it is, I'm having trouble hearing you...I've got two big crystal footballs in my ears...It's making it difficult...
Zac said:
posted on February 4, 2008 1:07 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
Had I written this article, I might have presented the teams in alphabetical order.
AL, GA, KS, Rutgers, USC, & Wake seems a little easier to take from that stand-point.
AL, in addition to meeting all 5 criteria, has a “big-time” HC, and another solid recruiting class coming in. GA & KS have already made their case. Then, it becomes easier to over-look Rutgers and move on to USC before finally stopping at Wake.
By starting with Wake, followed by Rutgers, one immediately wants to discredit the premise of the article, despite those teams having met the criteria. By starting with AL, the list becomes more palatable.
Now, I’m not surprised at OSU being absent from the list, given their loss to LSU. What surprises me is they’re having been left out of the article entirely. Given what OSU has coming back, I would not be surprised to see them return to the NC, were they to get by some early season big-time tests (at USC), not to mention, they visit the only team to beat them during the regular season. So, my question is, in addition to the bowl loss, what other criteria did OSU fail to meet?
gatorstud said:
posted on February 4, 2008 1:25 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
porky.....tebow needs to win something on his own first...a sec title is first on the list....and next years sec champ should come out of the east....georgia or florida....but i would have to say that if he ended his career at florida without playing in another national title game...as a fan, it would be disappointing....
but i have no doubt that he will get us back to the promise land....
go gators....
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 4, 2008 3:11 PM — 74.185.133.40 — link — abuse?
Georgia and USC look like the best two out of this list, though I must point out that while Mark Sanchez is an upperclassman, he has very little experience. So, I tend to discount that part of this rating system. Also, how is Matt Stafford considered an upperclassman but Tim Tebow is not? They're both rising juniors.
Somehow, I'm guessing OSU will make it back to the BCSCG again next year and lose (again).
TE
posted on February 4, 2008 3:23 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
As for this thread itself, it's verrrrry interesting, as some have pointed out...
It's also littered with holes, when you stop and think that LSU returns far more than a half dozen players with starting experience, on the defensive line alone...
Considering most would say that position is the biggest need for concern (along with corner), I'd say this "intuitive" system of deteriming favorites for a championship is a tad hollow...
Florida returns a junior whose also a Heisman Trophy Winner, and LSU returns a sophomore whose an SEC Championship Game MVP...
I also think it's quite convenient that he threw his lasso so wide as to talk about a "Top 40" defense returning, when in fact there's only one team up there whose defense finished outside of the Top 30...I wonder which one it is? Hmm...
posted on February 4, 2008 3:32 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
TE: How many times have we warned you about sticking crystal footballs in your ears? Jesus!
For you guys wondering why Florida isn't on the list: It's not becauase of Tebow, but because they didn't win their bowl game, in accordance with the formula above, at least...
After this past season, we need to be able to make some sense from all these upsets. Sorry, but this guy's little five-point theory doesn't add one iota of understanding to it...
I thought Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson had graduated from Alabama. Sorry, Bama, but I think you have your very own Brandon Cox on your hands--a QB who as a sophomore showed a lot of promise, but who slid downward his last two years.
Of course, Cox was 3-0 against Bama. Wilson, 0-2 against Auburn. Okay, bad analogy...
Bevo Boy said:
posted on February 4, 2008 3:38 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Do they mean that the qb was an upperclassman last year, or will be this year?
I'm not sure of Texas's defensive rank, but they only return 4 starters if I remember correctly. With Will Muschamp, I think Texas will easily be top 40 next year.
OU-Ron #9, Mack Brown had been dubbed Mr. February (maybe Coach February, not really sure) because he always pulled in good talent and still lost to OU 5 times straight. No titles, great talent. I believe TE is saying that Saban will do the same thing (except vs. OU, unless they played in 5 straight bowls for some weird reason).
posted on February 4, 2008 3:39 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Sorry, TE, but would you mind terribly if LSU relenquished the title of 'media darling' for this upcoming season? I think it's already been handed off to Georgia--at least until they do their customary faceplant against Florida...
I wouldn't be too sure about Perriloux returning. After all, he still has a whole spring and summer to go through trying to avoid arrest and incarceration. That's like a lifetime to the average college student...
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 4, 2008 3:58 PM — 74.185.133.40 — link — abuse?
#13: WEA sez...
"For you guys wondering why Florida isn't on the list: It's not becauase of Tebow"
In the blog opening, Kevin D sez...
"the Gators also missed on the "upperclassman" status of QB Tim Tebow"
So which is it? (You can understand my confusion, no?)
posted on February 4, 2008 4:06 PM — link — abuse? said:
Yall are 100% correct that Matt Stafford will be a junior this year, as will Tebow. I sent an email to Olin and I think he may clarify that teams *will* have a junior/senior qb.
With that in mind, Florida would be "in" with Tebow, but still "out" on the bowl game loss and "out" on top 40 defense. Florida finished with the #41 defense.
I have updated the original post for clarity.
posted on February 4, 2008 4:17 PM — link — abuse? said:
@TE - The characteristic was return at least six starters from a top 40 defense. LSU only returns five starters on defense, according to the 2007 depth chart.
You are correct in your assertion that more than six players have starting experience on LSU's defense, but they aren't "the" starter.
For example, if you starting DE is gone - then you don't get "credit" for a guy who started one game there during an injury.
posted on February 4, 2008 4:34 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
The really weak criterion in this formula is the one about having won at least seven games the previous season. What? Only seven? That's not real strong. The only reason it's that low is because there were some flukes in the data--two teams coming off 7-win seasons won the BCS, but in fact, six other teams were coming off 11-win seasons.
Statistically speaking, there haven't been enough BCS championships to correlate any data credibly. That's why he had to lower his range to 7-win seasons, which as we all know, is hardly a predictor of the subsequent season. The more seasons that are in the sample, the higher the average wins would be, eventually going to over nine wins per previous season, I would guess.
Don't any of you remember statistics class, or were you all damn PE majors???
Ramblin: Even if you were a fiscal engineer at Tech, you know this stuff. BTW, I missed the part about Tebow in the column earlier and was only responding to posters' comments...
OU-Ron
posted on February 4, 2008 4:36 PM — 216.201.209.146 — link — abuse? said:
Sam Bradford finished as the nation’s leader in passing efficiency.
I hope Sam doesn't read this thread, by not being an upper classman and not winning our bowl.
I don't want him to know that we don't have a chance to win it...
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 4, 2008 4:45 PM — 74.185.133.40 — link — abuse?
#24: WEA, Yes - I'm a computer science grad and took probability & statistics, along with two years of calculus and 1.5 years of discrete math / computational theory. You are correct that the reliability of the prediction is directly proportional to the cardinality of the sample space (i.e. the more years of BCS data, the better the forecast). It also seems likely that with the passage of time, the win count of the preceeding season will tend upward from 7 as the trend is toward "dynastic success" (e.g. USC, Texas, etc).
OK, I'll take off my propeller hat and geeky glasses now.
posted on February 4, 2008 4:56 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Yes, for all you gut-majors, what we are trying to say is that the more seasons in the sample, the more accurate the findings, and that over time, that 7-win criterion would migrate much higher. So it's safe to say that barring more flukes, you can safely take Rutgers and Alabama off this list...
I hear you, Ramblin. I started out as a math major before switching to bizness. I actually enjoyed all that probability theory. Never could translate it into anything I could take to Vegas, though...
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 4, 2008 5:13 PM — 74.185.133.40 — link — abuse?
WEA, what I learned from all that math is stay away from Vegas.
The popular joke in my vicinity when lottery tickets first went on sale...
"The Florida Lottery: retirement savings for people who are REALLY bad at math"
TampaGator said:
posted on February 4, 2008 5:21 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Thank you to the Geek patrol for shedding light on the statistical lack of credibility of the proposed analysis; cause the plain English explanation in the article itself--you know, the part where the author says:
"...The act of profiling – analyzing data to ascertain distinctive features in a given subject – can be a useful tool to identify job candidates, blood types or customers, but it's NEVER A GUARANTEE FOR SUCCESS....So it is with profiling a potential national champion."
...led most of us to believe that this was a scientific fromula which would infallibly predict the BCS c'ship game...had my bookie on the line n all, before I read y'alls posts...
Guess I owe y'all a debt of gratitude.
GO GATORS!!Autigerman said:
posted on February 4, 2008 6:08 PM — 68.109.98.15 — link — abuse?
Sometimes it pays to read the article and not just the post. Florida didnt qualify because they didnt win there bowl game.
According to the article the qb has to be a junior or senior with some playing experience.
Guess that leaves out Oklahoma who is returning only the best sophmore qb in the country.
And Bama would prehaps be better off using a freshman.But still interesting reading.
Also Auburn returns 10 starters on offence and without Brandon i think we are better. Still id rather we not be included as a preseason favorite.
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 4, 2008 7:52 PM — 74.185.133.40 — link — abuse?
#36: Autigerman sez...
"Sometimes it pays to read the article and not just the post. Florida didnt qualify because they didnt win there bowl game."
Well, I read through all of the posts on this blog and nobody asserted that Florida deserved to be on this list. My friend, sometimes it pays to read the posts, too (you end up looking a little less dumb that way).
GA Boy said:
posted on February 4, 2008 9:14 PM — 75.137.174.61 — link — abuse?
War Eagle Atlanta
The annual faceplant comment hurt. Even in a year when we beat the Gators, we get run in the ground. Only 10 more months and we prove you wrong. Of course, this formula means nothing for the DAWGS. We followed up our stellar 2002 13-1 season with 2 losses to LSU (1 of which landed LSU in the Game that got one of the crystal balls stuck in TE's ear), and of course the annual faceplant to Florida. Here's to new trends, huh!GO DAWGS!
Autigerman said:
posted on February 4, 2008 10:19 PM — 68.109.98.15 — link — abuse?
Now i know why your called Rambin Gator cause your just Ramblin on.
I think you like to hear yourself talk and it was you that was confused in post 17.
Anyway it was your embarrasing loss to Michigan remember that. The biggest upset of the bowl season.
Lennie Collins
posted on February 4, 2008 11:45 PM — 68.92.148.40 — link — abuse? said:
OU Ron, Post #9, I put that question mark because this don't mean jack! Come on, do you really think Wake Forest or Rutgers have a shot a playing for the National Title? Southern California and Georgia, Maybe? Alabama and Kansas...no! These two teams will not win their division! Take care!
OU Fan said:
posted on February 5, 2008 5:10 AM — 139.139.51.70 — link — abuse?
GOOD MORNING, Fanblogs. I hope everyone had a great weekend. For all of you who plan on visiting Europe, I want to add that if you have Prague, Czech Republic on your list of places to visit, its definately worth while. My town in Germany is approximately 3 hours west of Prague, Czech Republic. I made a trip to that city this past weekend and I enjoyed every minute of it. BOOMER!
OU Fan said:
posted on February 5, 2008 5:33 AM — 139.139.51.70 — link — abuse?
Lennie Collins #43, I agree. Plus, there is no chance in h#ll of Kansas winning in Norman. Basketball yes, Footall NO. It just won't happen. And then, doesn't Kansas play in Austin this year? The Jayhawks are doomed............... Well on a second thought, Texas has proved that they can be "WOOPED" in Austin so I don't know if the Texas Longhorns home field advantage will be much of an advantage at all. And isn't OU something like 50-2 at home? Both home losses in Norman were 7 points and below. Kansas had a remarkable season and Mangino did an outstanding coaching last season, but the Kansas Jayhawks will not beat the Oklahoma Sooners in Norman. And you are right about BAMA. There is no chance of the Tide winning the SEC this year. They might finally beat Auburn though, you never know. BOOMER!
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on February 5, 2008 8:10 AM — 192.94.94.105 — link — abuse? said:
Good Morning to All. This blue knight finally has a day shift and it only took me a year to achieve. OU-Ron yeah we did get whooped @ home by K-State, but who in the hell would have thought the fighting mangino's would have hung up 70 in the Sea of Red? We don't lose at home often. Make no mistake DKR has one of the best home field advantages in the entire nation.
Hearing Texas Fight by 89,000 sends chills up your spine! Especially since we will be seating 90,000 plus this year, and once we close up the south end zone we will be as big as neyland, and beaver stadium. Fan's booing the horns during that game last year really pissed me off though. You never boo your team, NEVER! Doesn't matter if your down by 30. Loyalty, people.Lennie Collins
posted on February 5, 2008 8:45 AM — 68.92.148.40 — link — abuse? said:
gOSU27, Post #47, sorry to destroy your dreams BUT James Tressell have to save his speeches because after Labor Day...it gets to cold in Ohio for the beaches! It was a Cornhuskers fan that pointed this out...he could have been on to somethin'. These warm weather schools with coastlines have won the last 5 National Titles. Ohio State is the only cold weather team in the last 7 years.
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 5, 2008 9:05 AM — 67.97.209.36 — link — abuse?
#41: Autigercrybaby, I hate to burst your bubble, but I'm called Ramblin' Gator because that's the name I selected for myself. I offered a suggestion that could have helped you to appear less dumb and here's another one: try writing with a few less grammar errors, misspellings, and misconceptions. That way you might actually appear to have graduated from Auburn - a fine school, IMO.
/BEGIN SARCASM
OMG!! Florida lost their bowl game??!! I think I'll have to go hide and cry now!!
/END SARCASM
U. of S. C. 1978 said:
posted on February 5, 2008 9:14 AM — 97.82.188.250 — link — abuse?
Pure Crapola, much less worthy than a pre-season poll. We got a beach, we call it Myrtle. I can certainly see why the beach thing should be factored into this junk formula. Come on now, who really thinks Wake is going to rocket into the NC? Rutgers? Parity is on the way, I suspect it is still a year or three away.
posted on February 5, 2008 9:32 AM — 150.176.192.1 — link — abuse? said:
I like the criterionused. The winning the Bowl Game criterion is suspect, as the article admits only half the champoins meet the criterion, it is included due to a recent four year trend.
The wins the previous season and returning starter look like they should be handled more like a graduated sccale than a boolean meets or not.
I would be interested in which teams meet four of the five criterion, as their have been exceptions to the rule I would have a hard time believing they were exceptions to more than one.
Autigerman said:
posted on February 5, 2008 9:36 AM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?
Ramblin on and onWell since your such a fine example lets look closer at your post #13. "It's not becauase of Tebow"
Is that cajun Floridian for because.Well thanks for the grammer lesson. now we just need to get you straight on football.
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 5, 2008 9:50 AM — 67.97.209.36 — link — abuse?
#55: Autigercrybaby, it's best not to enter a gun fight without a gun, my friend.
I didn't post #13 (as you stated, you incredible genious). I quoted post #13 in post #17 (you magnificently intelligent guy - notice the quotation marks?) and I left the quote unaltered as is the custom when quoting someone. That misspelling was courtesy of your fellow AU fan, WEA. Did you even apply to Auburn?
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on February 5, 2008 9:58 AM — 192.91.75.29 — link — abuse? said:
You guys gotta check out this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyeby6qHlDA
nothing like watching our new defensive coordintaor call the Arkansas Razorbacks M*therf*ckers! I love this guy!
HookEmHorns!
posted on February 5, 2008 11:37 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
40 Acres: Isn't there some Texas blog that has as it's subtitle "Boom M*therF*cker"? I thought they did that to welcome Muschamp. He's a lot of fun. Enjoy him while you got him...
Yes, hearing I've been working on the railroad sung by 90,000 Texas faithful is quite stirring... all the live long day! :-)
Ramblin: My spelling is just fine. It's my typing and proofreading skills that are lacking... Ya'll quit quoting me on mispelled words! "Begin/end sarcasm": Funny!!!
Lennie: Louisiana being known for it's beaches is like North Dakota being known for it's women...
Autigerman said:
posted on February 5, 2008 11:37 AM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?
Ramblin
Your a pleasent representative for the Gators.
To answer your question, no i never attended AU.
I actually attended college at several universities courtesy of Uncle Sam. I managed to cram a four year degree into 20 years of study.
I have no doubt that you could out wit me on paper and prehaps even know more about football,however you could take some lessons in courtesy.
Obviously you were upset by my comments in post
36. Nowhere were they directed at you, just an observation to answer what i considered a question as to why Florida was left off this list.If you would still like to make personal cuts on me just let me know and ill send you a long list of things you could use.
Matt Sawyer
posted on February 5, 2008 11:55 AM — 68.14.224.162 — link — abuse? said:
Wouldn't you want to throw in upcoming schedule to the equation? Tough road games would be a bigger part than if they return a certain number of defenders.
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on February 5, 2008 1:32 PM — 192.91.75.30 — link — abuse? said:
War Eagle: that is THE texas blog www.burntorangenation.com that you were referring to my home away from home. But i just happened to come across that video again today. Well at least our fight song is unique. Georgia also shares the same working on the railroad theme as well. The words obviously are a little different.
HookEmHorns!
Tomcat said:
posted on February 5, 2008 1:38 PM — 70.244.248.229 — link — abuse?
This whole thread is purty funny stuff
Lennie what are the beaches like in New Jersy?
Rutgers?
Muschamp will be able to call the Razorbacks motherf-cker more this year as the Hogs come into Austin.
Matt Sawyer mentions strength of schedule
When looking at UT going undefeated with thier given schedule, would be one heck of an accomplishment, one characteristic of a Championship team. Ark,KU,Missu,OU,TTech,Ok State
Can KU survive games in Norman & Austin ?
interesting- looks like another fun year
WareaglAtl The Eyes of Texas is only one song sung during mammoth erections-flag raising and after the game. I've been going to games in Austin for over 40 years and dont remember seeing a loss in person, I beleive the A&M loss in 06 was the first one in several years and Texas does well on the road & at home, can you say Dynasty.
Bama come on guys even N Texas beat UL Monroe
Hookem-Horns
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on February 5, 2008 1:41 PM — 192.91.75.30 — link — abuse? said:
Guess the "Eyes of Texas" being set to the "I've Been Working On The Railroad" theme makes as much since as a team with a Tiger mascot having War Eagle as their fight song. Interesting story about the whole War Eagle tradition at Auburn though.
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 5, 2008 1:45 PM — 74.185.133.40 — link — abuse?
#61: WEA, I hear you and same is true for me. I'm a good speller, but my lousy typing skills force me to be a thorough proof reader. Thank God for spell check!
#61: I'm certain I could benefit from some lessons in courtesy; however, I'm equally as certain that those lessons won't be given by you (based on the pejorative tone of your post #36 and your subsequent posts as well).
Sorry if I've offended you, but quite frankly, nobody asserted that Florida deserved to be on this list, so volunteering a snotty (and I quote: "Sometimes it pays to read the article..") posting is not exactly a public service. Quite frankly, I'm not sure how you can post something like that and not expect a discourteous response, especially when your post was inacurate in the first place.
"As ye sow, so shall ye reap."
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on February 5, 2008 1:47 PM — 192.91.75.30 — link — abuse? said:
Hey Matt Sawyer, Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!
Hey Kev we need a thread about the whole Rudy Carpenter incident. Where he was wearing a hot pink shirt at an ASU basketball game and refused to wear gold like the rest of the fans. After one of them questioned him why he was wearing hot pink and not gold, Carpenter called him a fag, chased him, and tried to pick a fight with him. What a douchebag!
HookEmHorns!
posted on February 5, 2008 2:01 PM — link — abuse? said:
@Matt - We get it, you have a blog. Chill. Using strength of schedule has been suggested, but I don't think you can arbitrarily discount the strength of a returning defense, either. When you look at the past 10 champions, all but one met the returning defense criteria. And while the scope of the sample set has been explained well past my attention span, 9 out of 10 isn't something to be sneezed at, either.
@40 Acres - There's plenty of room in the open threads for whatever ya got. Keeping it on topic is much appreciated. PS - Congrats on the shift change.
posted on February 5, 2008 3:20 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
40 Acres: Georgia's fight song is actually a reworked version of The Battle Hymn of the Republic. They sing "Glory, glory, to old Georgiaaaaa...." We at Auburn have a version of that as one of our songs, but it's not our main fight song.
ATM's fight song, or 'War Hymn', is a little creepy to me. They call out Texas so much, it's borderline obsessive/compulsive. I'd be embarrassed if our song mentioned Alabama that much. Their line about your song, "sounds like hell!" is pretty funny though...
I think the best fight song is "Hail to the Victors". Second is "Anchors aweigh", from Navy.
GA Boy: Sorry about the 'faceplant' thing. Don't think I'm not rooting for you, though!
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on February 5, 2008 4:34 PM — 76.182.205.22 — link — abuse? said:
@ WEA I could have swore there was some song played by the Georgia band that goes exactly with the same beat as ours and "working on the railroad."
Those aggies need to get a life they are obsessed over Texas, they even changed the roman numeral lettering on their university clock tower because it looked too much like t.u.! Thats what they like to call us Texas University for some reason. I can defiantely show them where varsity can stick those horns they sawed off!
Personally i like Notre Dame's and Miami's fight songs. After being in the Navy i got so tired of hearing "Anchors Aweigh"!
HookEmHorns!
Cane_Nation said:
posted on February 5, 2008 4:50 PM — 208.74.230.17 — link — abuse?
UGA looked good down the stretch this year, but they weren't expected to be this good. That is kinda how the 'Dawgs go. The trend for Georgia is to have a really good year (better than expected) when starting the season around the 15-20 mark. But, they will most likely be a top 3 team when the season starts. If they keep to their trend, expect about 3 losses next year. They never live up to the hype, when the hype is there to start the season.
I'm a cane fan, but have lived in GA my whole life. So I know a thing or two about GA football.
TampaGator said:
posted on February 5, 2008 5:04 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
40 Acres of BO/#79:
Miami has a fight song? Who sings it, Two-Pack Shapurr? Fitty-sent? Vaniller Ice? I know; LL Cool J's "I'm gonna knock you out..."--that it?
To topic:
I think USC will be in BCS c'ship game. They fit the profile, and they've stumbled 2x in the last 2 years to bounce themselves out--don't see a 3rd consecutive shooting of the foot.
...oh, and they're the quintessential "media darling".
How 'bout cha' now? --finally, USC v SEC Champ for all the marbles--we've been waiting for years...
Come say, I think I just stumbled on another criterion-"media darling"-if not to be champ, at least to be in BCS c'ship game (v. SEC Champ, of course...)
GO GATORS!!
posted on February 5, 2008 5:14 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Other possible University of Coral Gables Fight Songs:
Me So Horny by 2Live Crew
Chain Gang by Sam Cooke
Ice Ice Baby by What's His Name
Turn the Team Around by Miami Sound Machine
Ramblin: What's up with Ramblin Wreck? How can you drink your whiskey clear? You're not aging it long enough, THAT'S how...
posted on February 5, 2008 5:16 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Other possible University of Coral Gables Fight Songs:
Me So Horny by 2Live Crew
Chain Gang by Sam Cooke
Ice Ice Baby by What's His Name
Turn the Team Around by Miami Sound Machine
Ramblin: What's up with Ramblin Wreck? How can you drink your whiskey clear? You're not aging it long enough, THAT'S how...
wvu_lifer
posted on February 5, 2008 5:39 PM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
WEA,
You're killin' me LOL!To topic: I can only see it one way, USC vs UGA. Among the schools to choose from, they by far would destroy the other four. However, and i don't know what all goes into the math here, but math cannot predict Cinderellas and OMG who beat who in the upset of the year. Does this mean the other 113 teams can just cancel the season next year? No, i hate stats, lol
PeaceAutigerman said:
posted on February 5, 2008 5:41 PM — 68.109.98.15 — link — abuse?
Ramblin
I do get a little bent out of shape at times.
Just so you know my original post was in response to Porkys post #5. It appeared to me that he was suggesting that Florida should be in this list."I think Tebow being a junior and Heiesman winner would make him an exception."
I live in Florida surrounded by Florida fans and get it from all sides. Maybe I misread what he was saying. But I just figured he didn’t read the post.
posted on February 5, 2008 6:03 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Ramblin: That ain't drinking it clear, it's drinking it STRAIGHT!! haha
Lifer: Don't go annoiting anyone NC quite yet... Just wait until we get another thread calling for movie quotes! http://www.fanblogs.com/alabama/007306.php
Tigerman: You go with the perseverance on the degree. My father, a 30 year Army officer, did the same exact thing you did. I think he ended up with a degree from Maryland, although he never set foot on the campus...
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 5, 2008 6:08 PM — 74.185.133.40 — link — abuse?
#89: Autigerman, fair enough - let's chalk this one up to a miscommunication. Again, sorry if I offended you.
Ironically, I live in Florida too and yet I'm surrounded by Seminole fans (I only know one other Gator fan in a 10 mile radius). That's what I get for living in Seminole County, I guess. Where do you live.
Autigerman said:
posted on February 5, 2008 6:10 PM — 68.109.98.15 — link — abuse?
WEA
Troy (Well Troy State when I was there) by way of Merced college,Saint Leo, Embry Riddle,Okaloosa Walton and West Florida. Only campus i ever studied on was Merced.
And I still cant spell well enough to gain any respect from our Florida friends.
Autigerman said:
posted on February 5, 2008 6:19 PM — 68.109.98.15 — link — abuse?
RamblinI live in Fort Walton Beach.
Much closer to Seminole country then Florida however the fan base is pretty evenly split.
There are a few Auburn fans around here and i give a harty War Eagle when i see them.
That dosent always work by the way. Once i said War Eagle to a Mexican guy at the grocery store. He didnt know very much english and followed me around the store trying to figure out what i wanted.
A gator chump would have been easier to explain.
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on February 5, 2008 6:32 PM — 76.182.205.22 — link — abuse? said:
That's what i love about this blog one comment can lead to nearly a whole thread. i heard the song when i was beating my partner's (who hails from Miami Beach) a$$ at some NCAA Football 2008, and happened to hear it after his only score (field goal!) of the game.
wvu_lifer
posted on February 5, 2008 6:34 PM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
WEA,
Classic clip, from a classic film! Well picked, lol! No, i wasn't handing out the NC title prematurely. Just out of the 6 teams listed, UGA and USC have the best shot. Throw 30 more names on that list and it would be mayhem, lol
Peacewvu_lifer
posted on February 5, 2008 7:59 PM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
WEA,
Since there is no inflection in text, i'm thinking you could have meant a couple of things. Like, any thread reguarding W.Va is a chump thread. That's ok, we all have our opinions, and i'm not offended.
Or, by any W.Va thread posted people will be licking thier chops to go and critcize W.Va.
That's ok, that's what i live for. However, i don't like to argue with people, just talk facts.....then that gets outta hand. Still curious,
Thx
Bevo Boy said:
posted on February 5, 2008 8:13 PM — 207.200.116.5 — link — abuse?
gOSU27, I've seen script ohip, and I personally think their is way too much importance put on "dotting the i." My HS seems to have taken one thing that the OSU band does, but changed it slightly. They say they're the best damn band in the land, my HS says we're (I'm not actually a part of it anymore) the best small band in the land.
GA Boy said:
posted on February 5, 2008 9:53 PM — 75.137.174.61 — link — abuse?
OSU27-by your admiration of the TN fight song,
I see you have never been on the receiving end of a Tennessee Vol asswhipping and had to hear "Rocky Top" about 20 times in a night. Everytime I hear it, it makes me want to kick my old hounddog! This year in Athens should be another good one. Me and my best bud, a Tennesse hillbilly as you would have it, will make the trip once again. I owe him one after the last two years.GO DAWGS!
Zac said:
posted on February 5, 2008 10:04 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Say what you want about statistical analysis and trending positive correlations, the teams that have to be in the running next year, without a doubt, are FL, GA, LSU, MO, OK, OSU, TX, & USC. I'll give KS & WVU an outside shot, and figure to see GA & LSU in the SEC Championship. But, say what you want about OSU's schedule last season, if they get by USC in their house, OSU is going back to the dance for their 3rd straight try. An ya noze wat de say, boiz an gerlz: Tree timez iz a chahm.
(Some of you may notice, I can't spell either. Come to think of it, Ramblin Gator (Post 73), spell check don't save my a$$.)
OU-Fan (Post 64), about Julio Jones, I was already to bust your cajones (Get it, ca-"Jones"?), given he's from AL & Pat White's from AL, Jones is headed to WVU. But WAIT! Rich Rodriguez left WVU for MI, that means Jones is now likely going to......OSU! (You're right; it's not funny.)
40 Acres etc (Post 79), cool, you're a Blue Knight AND a Navy man. I just may root a little extra for TX this year. (Seriously, thanks for the service to this great nation. Autigerman, that thanks goes double for you!)
WarEagleA (Post 80), you know how people say, "Don't quit your day job"? You may be the only one here, this side of Gator Hippy, who might could get away with it. (Speaking of GH, where iz that boy?)
WVU_Lifer (Post 102), Auburn in Mo-Town isn't the only good team on WVU's none conference schedule. WVU is at ECU next year (They may not be great or of the Big 6, but they had a winning season and won their bowl......poor Coondog.), and WVU's at CO. OK didn't win in boulder last year; don't expect WVU to waltz in and take it without having to donate more than their share of blood & sweat.
Speaking of WVU's schedule, last season almost began with an exception to the criteria of this thread. WVU opened with W MI. In 2006, W MI finished 8-5 with a 3 pt loss to Cinci. In 2007 they returned 16 starters, 9 on defense, 7 on offense, AND the 2005 MAC Freshman of the year, who by 2007 was a Jr. They won 4 more games after opening at WVU. Go figure.
Zac said:
posted on February 5, 2008 10:41 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Kev, are you going to open a thread for recruiting results tomorrow? Seems fitting...
Songs (forgot about that one): I still love Rocky Top!!!
Bands: I'll always love my Mountaineers. They have a drum corps opening that'll thrill you to death; and nobody marches into the shape of the state of West "By God" Virginia the way they do.
This thread: 9 out of 10, huh? Hmmm......
Tomcat said:
posted on February 6, 2008 2:02 AM — 70.244.248.229 — link — abuse?
Hey Guys Tampa Gator is on to something{ media darlings} yes folks now we come to the nutt cuttin.
So now its USC vs Ohio st/Mich right?
yall ought to just chill because I beleive he's on to something. This factor is more impressive than strengh of schedule or which conference is tougher etc. etc.
Hey guys we dont really care, we all know that our team is the best right !!!
Ole Miss ok
Miss St
Na Texas Longhorns #1 no Doubt
OU sux
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Bama Babe said:
posted on February 4, 2008 12:51 PM — 70.146.240.152 — link — abuse?Alabama is not there yet, but with a top 5 recruiting class, we're comin'! :)
From this list, I believe Georgia is the most likely to end up atop the 2008 polls.
RTR.