February 12, 2008
Fresh from the oven: Which conferences love cupcakes?
With the conference schedules firming up for the 2008-2009 football season, The Wizard of Odds and CFBStats have a conference-by-conference breakdown of games scheduled against DI-AA opponents during the last three seasons.
The biggest offenders? The WAC, Big XII, and SEC.
According to the study, the WAC scheduled 16.1% of their games against DI-AA teams, with the Big XII Conference just behind (15.6%). The SEC (15.2%) finished comfortably ahead of the Big East (14.5%) and Conference USA (13.4%), who round out the top five.
But it's not just D-IAA cupcakes that the major conferences enjoy. The BCS teams also love scheduling mid-major creampuffs to fill their schedules, too.
The Big XII again led the way, with nearly seventy-percent of their non-conference games scheduled against non-BCS opponents. The SEC faired slightly better at roughly sixty-three percent, but still weighed in as the second biggest offender, well ahead of the Pac10 (56.8%), Big 10 (55.9%), Big East (53.6%) and the ACC (52.6%).
According to the Wiz, the Big XII played 199 non-conference games from 2004-2007, with 167 of those against DI-AA or non-BCS opponents.
Runner-up among college football's elite is the SEC, which played 198 nonconference games in the four-year period, 30 against I-AA and 124 against non-BCS.Other BCS breakdowns:
Pacific 10: 146 nonconference, 14 vs. I-AA, 83 vs. non-BCS.
Big Ten: 186 nonconference, 20 vs. I-AA, 104 vs. non-BCS.
Big East: 166 nonconference, 24 vs. I-AA, 89 vs. non-BCS.
Atlantic Coast: 196 nonconference, 25 vs. I-AA, 103 vs. non-BCS.
Anyone care to wager as to where this trend is going?
Comments:
BayouBengal said:
posted on February 12, 2008 12:30 PM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
Here we go again with OCC scheduling......
I think the SEC is realizing that.....they have enough on there plates already within the SEC.
Soooooo........if your baking cupcakes! I like mine with rainbow sprinkles!
Bring it on App St......NC vs NC!
gaeux tigers!
Autigerman said:
posted on February 12, 2008 12:39 PM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?
Guess i was surprised that the SEC didnt have the most at least amoung BCS conferences.
Always seem to have quite a few lower division and division 2 schools schedeuled.
But to me there dosent seem to be alot of incentive anymore to schedule the toughest schedule. Ohio State proved that this year.
TampaGator said:
posted on February 12, 2008 12:42 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Hey BayouBengal/#2:
Shut up with that mess, man; don't ya' know we're only talking about OOC here--you ain't allowed to factor in for conference play...that changes the rules, and we don't want to upset the natural inference suggested by the stats:
that WAC, Big XII, and SEC teams are too 'esceared to play other D1's, OOC.
...come on now; get with the program: Arguments are limited to the quality of the D-II teams --or other OOC teams scheduled; no mention of conference opposition is permitted; none at all, y'ear?
GO GATORS!!Cowbell05 said:
posted on February 12, 2008 2:08 PM — 74.227.36.55 — link — abuse?
Yeah well I have to agree with bayou bengal. When you play in the SEC there is not one team that you can look at on your schedule and say thats a "W" for sure. We have to take the easy ones when we can get them. I'm like AUtigerman, I was surprised the SEC didn't have the most "cupcakes" on the schedule.
BayouBengal said:
posted on February 12, 2008 3:19 PM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
#4 Tampagator,
You can't be serious.......unless of course,
you need to touch up on your sarcasm......sar·casm (sär'kâz'əm) Pronunciation Key
noun.
1)A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
2)A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 12, 2008 3:44 PM — 216.10.193.22 — link — abuse?
#9: Autigerman, no worries - I only go into padantic mode when someone criticizes me or my favorite teams. If we paused to apologize for every misspelling and grammar error, that would constitute at least half the postings.
But thanks for thinking of me - I'm sure it was a sincere apology! :-)
TampaGator said:
posted on February 12, 2008 5:04 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Bayou Bengal/#12:
Nothing gets passed you, huh?
How 'bout my "facetiousness"--does that need touching up too?
fa·ce·tious–adjective
1. not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark.
2. amusing; humorous....
So, am I being sarcastic about my fecetious post, or facetious about my sarcastic post?
...facetiously sarcastic? Sarcasticly facetious...
...sarcasticly-facetiously sardonic?...
...oh the complexity of it all...
To topic: One can only conclude that Big XII and SEC are woosies for playing woosy OOC, by isolating OOC and completely disregarding intra conference play. Hence factoring in for conference play-as you so rudely attempted to do--defeats the purpose of the posted stats, and is therefore out-of-bounds for this thread, as it is intended for SEC/Big XII bashing, and for praising those courageous teams who must go OOC to assemble adequate schedules.
Better?
GO GATORS!!Kodi4Heisman said:
posted on February 12, 2008 5:17 PM — 72.218.233.232 — link — abuse?
I was thinking about adding Florida-Hawaii to the list of entertaining games, but I remembered how badly Georgia beat the Warriors. And Hawaii is only getting worse next year.
Also, the Miami game won't be that good, in my opinion. That recruiting class of theirs doesn't necessarily mean look out for us.
Cowbell05 said:
posted on February 12, 2008 5:50 PM — 76.107.119.247 — link — abuse?
TampaGator,
Not sure how factoring in conference play is disregaurding the OOC play. Its just simply stating that some conferences are tough enough by theirselves, and that some teams shouldn't have to play other teams from BCS conferences to prove their strength. Any team that goes undefeated in the SEC (other than Auburn a few years ago) is going to be playing for a BCS National Championship, period, plain and simple, regaurdless of who they play OOC.
BayouBengal said:
posted on February 12, 2008 5:54 PM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
Tampagator#16
Easy there TG......
I understood your sarcasm loud and clear......It was actually very humorous!
Now that I have re-read my post agian, I must have come off the wrong way.
I never took your comments seriously! I was simply using sarcasm myself....to further emphasize your "facetiousness"!
But apparently mine didn't go over as well (as gator boys also pointed out)
Just to be sure, I'm gonna spend a couple hours tonight strengthening my sarcasm, sooooo this won't have to happen again.
Kodi4Heisman said:
posted on February 12, 2008 5:57 PM — 72.218.233.232 — link — abuse?
"other than Auburn a few years ago"
I believe there should be a NCAA rule that states if a SEC team goes undefeated and becomes SEC champ, they earn an automatic bid in the National Title.
I mean it in a joking manner, but seriously, running the table in the SEC is nothing to overlook. I often hear they were denied the title game because they played The Citadel, haha.
Cowbell05 said:
posted on February 12, 2008 6:11 PM — 76.107.119.247 — link — abuse?
Alright well in that case i guess I'll just admit that the SEC, WAC, and Big XII are a bunch of pussies for playing no name teams, as a matter of a fact, Mississippi State makes up 2 of those from the SEC. Maybe I should just stay off of this thread. ;-)
posted on February 12, 2008 6:32 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
The one stat missing to counter-balance the assertions made in this thread is this: how many ranked teams did each conference play during that time, including games against each other?
One you factor that in, any cupcakes in the SEC schedule are negated by superior in-conference competition. Don't believe it? Well, I'm not doing the legwork for you, but just think about how many SEC teams are bowl-eligible each year and how many finished ranked for the year...
Simple fix: Make all BCS-conference schools required, as part of their OOC schedule, to play a minimum of two other schools from other BCS conferences. Easily done with a 12-game schedule...
gOSU27 said:
posted on February 12, 2008 6:40 PM — 207.74.25.36 — link — abuse?
WEA- You are right, the SEC has a lot of depth to go along with the top talent, that is what makes it one of the very best.
I think the Big 10 may be in for some better times in the next few years again (not that it ever got that bad). I know they don't mean much, but the pre-season rankings are showing that success is possible...
Zac said:
posted on February 12, 2008 7:10 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
WarEagleA (Post 25), another way to do that would be to take the aggregate Won/Loss record into consideration. I'm willing to bet every team in the SEC played schedules who's win-to-loss ratio's were greater than 1.
Last year, OK, for example; their schedule win/loss ration was less than 1, until they played MO for the 2nd time (Big-12 Championship). By comparison, OSU's & WVU's respective ratio's were barely over 1.
As a side not, Bayou Bengal & TampaG, I've got one thing to say to your posts regarding sarcasm and facetiousness, "Plug it into wut?" Spell check has never saved me.
Reminds me of a woman I work with. She was assigned the task of e-mailing a safety message to the entire site. It involved electrical box safety and using fuse pullers to remove large fuses. Among the recommendations were to apply a "gentle" tug. If you misspell gentle, and use spell check, the 1st word as the top of the list is "genital". Wahll, all I can say is she's still living that one down. Yup...
posted on February 12, 2008 7:19 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Zac: Looking simply at the won-loss record doesn't take into account rankings of the teams at the times. Certainly, beating a top ten team is better than beating one that isn't. It's the kind of stat that would be really hard to calculate...
Yes, genitals are not the recommended way to check conductivity in fuses, but I believe that the Mythbusters did succesfully use a .22 round as a substitute for a fuse--albeit with a bit of a bang and a shorted out electrical system...
Zac said:
posted on February 12, 2008 7:44 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
WarEagleA, rankings can be misleading as well. Consider KS St after they played TX. They were unranked at the beginning of the season, ranked after winning in Austin; then, wound up 5-7.
Consider MI. They were ranked 5th in most polls at the beginning. Need I say more? I didn't mean to infer rankings weren't important, rather they're only part of the equation. The aggregate win/loss record is another part.
"Did anyone get that? Yes, I have lost my mind..."
I'll tell ya, friends; I really found a home when I 1st logged onto this loony bin. If I'd done that 10 years ago, trust me; I'd be King of you all.
Tomcat said:
posted on February 12, 2008 7:45 PM — 66.142.89.118 — link — abuse?
#28 WarEagATL You are not the only one on here and I enjoyed reading about the percentages of OCC games against non-BCS schools. Texas has 10 Div 1-A schools only 4 of which belong to a BCS conference. Since the end of the SWC conference we still have alot of old opponents that play each other every year.
While teams like TTech play SMU, Rice and UTep
They have also had home & Home series with Ole Miss and NC St both teams from {BCS} conferences.
Is that really any different than playing a TCU or Houston ? not really
Its more of a regional thing than anything else and some of these teams have played each other for ever
TTech vs SMU
Baylor vs TCU
Texas vs Rice
TTech vs Rice
Its no different than OU vs Tulsa or Bama vs Troy
Just a little different perspective for every
Iowa vs Iowa st there is a Colo vs Colo st
Colo St is not in a BCS conf just like a
Texas vs TCU
Looking foward to Ark vs Texas
LSU didnt want a Home & Home with TTech
Was ole Les & company scared of Mike Leach and the Air Raid Raiders? Better be
Hookem-HornsgOSU27 said:
posted on February 12, 2008 7:56 PM — 207.74.25.36 — link — abuse?
WEA: How would you suggest to split the conference? OSU, PSU, and UM would all have to be in the same division for rivalry purposes, and that would create a terrible imbalance already....
Southeast(ish) Division?
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Indiana
Michigan StateWest(ish) Division?
Northwestern
Illinois
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Purdue(could go either way)
Iowa
That's the best that I could do...We would probably need to drop/add a school....If drop, CYA Northwestern!!
hrposon said:
posted on February 12, 2008 8:41 PM — 98.200.123.115 — link — abuse?
The weak schedules are a product of the BCS. Most teams just don't risk nonconference losses because of the BS MNC implications.
Once a playoff of conference champions is implemented, teams will schedule big money opponents and still have a chance at a playoff spot.Autigerman said:
posted on February 12, 2008 9:22 PM — 68.109.98.15 — link — abuse?
gOSU #34Im not sure why you feel that those three teams have to be on same side of bracket.
If you put penn state on the other side and still play them every year. We do that with Georgia.
I think the Big Ten dosent want a championship game. They certainly wouldnt have the same argument they had last year that Michigan should play OSU again. And if thats really whats wanted then put those two teams on opposite sides.
Tomcat said:
posted on February 12, 2008 11:45 PM — 69.154.241.166 — link — abuse?
#37 Na Man look at UT vs OU same division makes every game like a Championship game.
For OU to play Missu twice or for UT to play Colo or Neb twice does not make for a true conference Champ. The divisions for the 10/11 dont really have to be geographical anyway.Is Oklahoma really south-No they are way up north were it snows and everything else. Kinda like Dallas Cowboys in the NFL east?
The B-10/11 should add one team from the MAC then both conferences would have 12 teams. The B-10/11 could add a CCG game and then they could reap the benefit of added revenue and national merit comparable to the great B-12,SEC or ACC.
Sorry to get off subject
Adios Tomcat
Hookem-HornsGator Boys said:
posted on February 13, 2008 12:38 AM — 66.231.139.229 — link — abuse?
Yea gOSU, its like AUtigerman said:
The SEC east plays all other SEC east teams and 1 permanent SEC west team every year. LSU(west)-UF(east) and apparently AU(west)-UGA(east) are 2 examples of these games played every year. You guys could do that
gOSU27 said:
posted on February 13, 2008 7:20 AM — 207.74.25.36 — link — abuse?
Now if Notre Dame would join the B10 (not likely) then that would bring some balance if you wanted to split it up east and west.
As for the divisions, I would for sure keep Ohio State and Michigan in the same division. The Penn State vs. Michigan/OSU rivalries weren't added until PSU joined the B10, taking the place of Ohio State vs. Illinois. So, your right...I have no problem with Penn State being in a different divisionI just think that it would be good to keep OSU-UM to one game/year.....
OU Fan said:
posted on February 13, 2008 10:25 AM — 139.139.51.70 — link — abuse?
OU-Ron, OU does own the south :)J/K On a serious note though, I don't know what to consider Oklahoma. To me, Oklahoma is not a southern state. I myself classify Oklahoma as part of the southwest. But then again, tribes from Indian Territory(Oklahoma)did fight with the confederacy during the civil war and Oklahoma is obviously directly west of Arkansas, so I don't know. I do however hear people say that Oklahoma is part of the midwest, but I quickly correct them because Oklahoma is not part of the midwest. Go Sooners!
TE
posted on February 13, 2008 10:46 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
TampaGator #16
Facetiousness comes from the root word facetious...
Did you realize that the word facetious is the only word in the English language that includes every single vowel in the alphabet, in its chronilogical appearance?
Taking it one step further, and the fact that the letter -y can often be used as a substitute vowel, facetiously also works in that piece of mindless, ridiculously useless piece of trivia...
(Good morning, everyone!)
TE
posted on February 13, 2008 11:06 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Hipster's quite accurate...I'm a voracious reader...
But, LSU was not the education that I thought it would be, not from the material and the whatnot, but from the atmosphere...I thought it'd be far more of a "college atmosphere", and after attending a few classes with friends and grad student teachers at SLU, I realized that it was WAAAAAY more of what I was looking for (IE-open discussions, student driven lectures and more give-and-take)...
Not that I don't love it, but that's just my opinion of the Ole War Skule...
TE
posted on February 13, 2008 11:37 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
None. I like to read...Never said I had patience...I guess I could put my mind towards them, but I'm FAR too ADHD for those things to interest me...
I told you, I read Tom Robbins...Ever sorted through that dirty bomb of verbosity? That dude's wordier than a Thesaurus and a Dictionary's illegitimate love child...
TampaGator said:
posted on February 13, 2008 11:38 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Bayou Bengal/#21:
Fair dinkem (as the aussies say). Just having fun anyway. As it turns out, it appears I do need to touch up my sarcasm--particularly when I employ it as an adverb. (sarcastically, not sarcasticly. "Oots" (as my 2 yr old boy likes to say)). Spelling never my strong suit; God bless spell check...
Cowbell/#19:
Ding dong, bubba (what else to say?).
TE/#45:
I did not know that. Fascinating. Well--marginally interesting.
To topic: funny; I was expecting good ol' fashioned heated debate about SOS--as conveniently measured exclusively by OOC (per USC Fan, and other SEC critics); seems we mostly got SEC Fan pre-empting it. Bummer.
Must be the off-season.
GO GATORS!!gatorhippy
posted on February 13, 2008 11:51 AM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
Really?
I'm surprised...
I hammer through two a day for the most part from the local papers...
Actually, helps me with my lack of focus from my ADHD as an exercise in concentration...
Kinda gets my brain recentered midday...
I've read a few Tim Robbins works as assigned by a writing prof for the over-the-top descriptiveness...
Good read but I find his wordiness sometimes detracts from the actual storyline much in the same manner that Foster's lack of paranthetical organization leans to the same...
Essentially...
It's just too damn hard sometimes; as the reader; to wade through a bunch of seemingly muddled ideas to get to the meat of the point...
TE
posted on February 13, 2008 12:27 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
See, I look at his novels as a way to feed my need for wordiness (and to see just what limits that sort've excessive use of descriptiveness can take a story or a point) the same way you view crossword puzzles...
I search for the meaning in all of his stuff, because I think he accomplishes what almost no mainstream writer can...
He puts forth some seriously wacky, out of left field takes on life and the world we live in, but couches it in so much flowery verbosity and offbeat storylines, the sifting through said verbosity and the suspension of belief necessary to follow the storyline itself allows him to make his points and convey the underlying theme without you thinking he's a crackpot for the idea itself...
Effective...
TE
posted on February 13, 2008 12:29 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
See, I look at his novels as a way to feed my need for wordiness (and to see just what limits that sort've excessive use of descriptiveness can take a story or a point) the same way you view crossword puzzles...
I search for the meaning in all of his stuff, because I think he accomplishes what almost no mainstream writer can...
He puts forth some seriously wacky, out of left field takes on life and the world we live in, but couches it in so much flowery verbosity and offbeat storylines, the sifting through said verbosity and the suspension of belief necessary to follow the storyline itself allows him to make his points and convey the underlying theme without you thinking he's a crackpot for the idea itself...
Effective...
Tomcat said:
posted on February 13, 2008 1:12 PM — 66.142.89.118 — link — abuse?
Not I for one ,Thanks for the information
Looking at the conference breakdown concerning OCC scheduling against non[BCS] opponents. Is it just me, or do yall see the correlation between the geographical locations of some of the Non[BCS] conference schools in relation to the Big-12 and SEC conference schools.
When you look at the Sun Belt and C-USA those conferences schools are located in the same regions as SEC and B-12, were as the MAC for example has split up OCC games between say mostly B-10/11 and B-East schools. Looks to me like the ACC has alot of OCC games between just about every other conference including the non BCS conference schools, but given their specific locations and old rivalrys and old conference alingments would tend to play more teams from BCS conferences primarly Big E and SEC.
It all makes sense to me, now where does LSU get off ducking out from visiting Lubbock for a home & home and instead schedules App St.-Div-1AA
Hookem=Horns
P.S. Watch some educated sparks fly as those Moutaineers spread that Tiger D, maybe not as effective or as dangerous as T Tech- who's offensive line averages 330lbs and whose QB holds several H/S state records. LSU didnt want that Soph W/R tearing up their secondary early in the season on Nat T.V. Educated move, guess it comes from reading alotBayouBengal said:
posted on February 13, 2008 1:48 PM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
Tomcat#57,
LSU was able to avoid going to Lubbock b/c they were in contract negotiations with Arizona to kick off the 2008 season. AZ has since dropped out of the contract!
LSU then made a smart play by picking up App St for this years opener, considering the recognition that App St has earned!
Besides......what better way to open the year than with last seasons two NCAA Division I national champions!!
LSU will open with App St again in 2009.
Geaux TIGERS!
posted on February 13, 2008 2:31 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
OU Fan: If Oklahoma isn't a Southern state, then why do most of the folks there talk like they do in Texas? Is it because they steal all their football players? :-)
gOSU27: Rules state that you must have at least 12 teams to split into divisions and play a championship game. You can go for Notre Dame or maybe steal Pitt from the Big Easyt. I don't care who is in which division, but I think you should call them the 'Rust' and 'Snow' divisions...
Bayou Bengal: Nice spin on that APP State scheduling. It almost sounds palatable. Might you be seeking employment as White House press secretary in the next Democratic administration?
Hippy I can see where you're the antithesis of Faulkner with your straight on, bare-knuckles comments. No one does it better in one sentence. I'm more of a Joseph Heller kind of stylist (Catch 22).
posted on February 13, 2008 2:49 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Ron, you're not still mad about the Easy Bake Oven comment, are you?? :-)
You know, I'm not sayin that I played with an Easy Bake oven as a kid, and I'm not saying that I didn't. I will say though, that Play-Doh turns hard as a rock in one and that Slime* doesn't fare very well, either...
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slime_%28toy%29
posted on February 13, 2008 3:01 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Ron: In reference to 'Baking Cupcakes'. Your post #27, and my #29.
It was a jab that 'baking cupcakes' in the Big 12 came so naturally that you could do it with a child's toy--an Easy Bake oven.
Come on. I know they had those when you were a kid. They were for girls, but I distinctly remember experimenting with my sister's--see post #63!
Tomcat said:
posted on February 13, 2008 4:23 PM — 66.142.89.118 — link — abuse?
#67 TE OURon is right I'm just going on what I've read here and on the Red Raiders sites, they all say that it was LSU that wouldnt give them a home & home.Must be some misinformation floating around, I'll try to post some links if interested.
Anyway glad yall picked up a game with App St, I would have much rather seen yall play TTech.Hey man go beleive what you want to, the deal fell through whatever and yall got a Div-1AA opponent -main topic of thread.
I'm looking foward to Ark vs Texas and of course
Wake at Baylor
Adios Tomcat
P.S. I'd love to see a LSU vs Texas in the future40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on February 13, 2008 4:49 PM — 76.182.205.22 — link — abuse? said:
Tomcat, I would love to see LSU vs Texas. Anyone remember the 2003 Cotton Bowl? Great game. I think it would really throw a wrench into the whole college football machine if we had more high profile non conference games. I would love to see a Texas vs Tennessee, Florida, Penn St, Georgia, Oregon. Unfortunately team's nowadays are "scared" of possibly losing a game to a non conference opponent on national TV. Oh well that's what NCAA Football 2008 is for i guess. Probably as close as we will ever get to those big time match ups. Sorry if i am mumbling just got back from Austin and this whole police refresher training so im a little groggy. At least this year we don't have any cup cakes.
HookEmHorns!
BayouBengal said:
posted on February 13, 2008 5:56 PM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
Just for the record: Florida St, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, and Clemson all turned down offers to host App St!
So leave it up to the Natn'l Champs to step up to the plate to play, well, the Natn'l Champs!
And may the Tiger and BayouB bashing begin..........and go!
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 13, 2008 6:52 PM — 63.82.71.140 — link — abuse?
#73, I get really amused by these kind of posts and there are plenty of them.
"Your team is scared because they won't play X".
Where X is...
"My team"
"A team that my team plays"
"A team from my team's conference"
""As a Gators fan, I've certainly heard this for years from Miami fans and some of the recent scuttlebutt in the state of Georgia is that Georgia Tech is afraid to play Georgia Southern.
(I'll use a word from my favorite TV series.)
This is frakin garbage.
UF quit playing Miami when the SEC expanded and the Gators had to add an additional conference game. They are playing Miami again now that the NCAA has expanded the season from 11 to 12 games. Georgia Tech doesn't play Georgia Southern because they would lose money playing that game and I have to imagine the same would be true for App State.
This is an interesting blog topic and I think the statistics in this case do reveal some truth. However, claiming that one team is "afraid" to play another is (wait for it!)...
Frakin stupid.
Tomcat said:
posted on February 13, 2008 7:05 PM — 66.142.89.118 — link — abuse?
#75 WarEagATL The question is how many Aggies does it take to make popcorn? How did we go from so-called cupcake shedules to covering authors of novels? and or Who's a nerd? and on another thread its like E TV who's from where.
BTW You were right about Witherspoon born in La and raised in Nashville, her Mamma is a proph at Vandy- did a little Wiki
Back to Sports
Pre-season rankings are kinda like elbows and a-holes everybody has one and they are all just speculative and out of 4 different publications nobody was really close at all on the 07 season.
Dave Campbell's
1. Georgia
2.USC
3.Oklahoma
4.Florida
5.Ohio State
6. Missouri
7.LSU
8.West Virginia
9. Illinois
10. Virginia Tech
11.Texas Tech
12.Wisconsin
13.Clemson
14.Kansas
15.Tennessee
16.Texas
17.Virginia
18.BYU
19.Michigan
20.Penn State
21.Auburn
22.Cincinnati
23.Wake Forest
24.South Florida
25.Oregon State
Interesting-Others receiving votes
Utah,Colorado,Arizona st.,UCF,Alabama,California,Florida State,UConn,Maryland,East Carolina,Oklahoma St,Boise St
What I'm surprized that theres no South Carolina or Hawaii-coondawgs team- no Oregon Ducks
No TCU frogs or Notre Dame
App St should get mentioned, it is afterall off-season who knows
Hookem-HornsBevo Boy said:
posted on February 13, 2008 9:19 PM — 207.200.116.5 — link — abuse?
#76, Ramblin', what series is frakin from?
#75, War Eagle, don't say that, there might be Hindus on here. Besides, everyone knows, that's an OU fan's fantasy, screwin' a cow is their only way to get back at the Longhorns after the Cotton Bowl (just kiddin, OU fans, Lennie in particular [don't get all, CHECK YOUR TONE, Lennie, just kiddin], especially recently).
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on February 14, 2008 1:26 PM — 216.10.193.22 — link — abuse?
#79: Bevo, it's from Battlestar Galactic. They use it as an obvious euphemism for another word you can't say on TV. They did this in the original series too, but it was not so obviously modeled on the F-bomb then.
Big Tide said:
posted on February 12, 2008 12:21 PM — 69.34.227.69 — link — abuse?At what point do we quit lumping all Division 2 schools into the same pile? Clearly with Appy State winning their respective National Championship and knocking off Michigan in the Big House you can't consider them on the same level as the rest of Division 2?