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1. 1st_and_NOLE said:

   posted on May 23, 2008 10:32 AM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse?

   
   
   

   Spurrier is way too high. I agree.

   I think Urban Meyer is a bit too high as well (I'd say #5 is about right).

   Grobe is too low IMO. What he does with the little to no talent he has at one of the smallest schools in D1 is amazing.

   
   

2.  War Eagle Atlanta said:

   posted on May 23, 2008 11:05 AM — 68.211.170.52 — link — abuse?

   
   
   

   I think Tuberville is a solid top 10 coach. He's won 8 out of his last 9 games against teams ranked in the top 10, and 14 out of the last 19. I don't know if any other coach in the country can match that.

   I think you should qualify this list to only include coaches who have been tenured with their current team for at least 3 years. That can reduce these 'legacy' votes...

   I can never remember if the Cal coach is Ted Jefford or Jeff Tedford...

3. 1st_and_NOLE said:

   posted on May 23, 2008 11:18 AM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse?

   
   
   

   WAIT!

   This list is obviously flawed as it doesn't include the offensive genius and guru that is Charlie Weis.

   Who, has it turns out, may have only looked "brilliant" due to having Tom Brady throw the ball for him and the benefit of Spygate with knowing what the defense is doing.

   It appears CW sold ND a false bill of goods. Something I'd think the "morally superior" ND would investigate and look into. However, thus far in the Spygate investigations, ND and CW have "no comment" on the situation.

   But, that's a whole other thread I suppose.

   Still, it's shocking he wasn't listed. Shocking I say.

4. OU-Ron said:

   posted on May 23, 2008 11:31 AM — 216.201.209.146 — link — abuse?

   
   
   

   Charlie is so big even his name won't fit into that list.......

5. AUtigerman said:

   posted on May 23, 2008 12:42 PM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?

   
   
   

   Im not sure that I would put Urban Meyer #3. But what can i say Im an AU fan that lives in Florida and I cant stand the Gators.

   And surprise, surprise, but i see a few on here that i feel should be above Nick Saban.
   To call last year a late season slide is an understatment. More like an avalanche.

   I do feel that Mark Richt is a great coach so dont think im being totally bias.

6. badgerballer said:

   posted on May 23, 2008 12:44 PM — 70.59.215.72 — link — abuse?

   
   
   

   Homerism on full display here. But my buy Bret Belima just ended his sophmore season at the helm and is sitting at a career head coaching mark of 21-5 with 2 New Year's Day bowl appearances. Yeh, yeh...Big 10 is soft, yadda, yadda. But how Brian Kelly (or half the guys on that list) top that, I don't really know.

7. AUtigerman said:

   posted on May 23, 2008 12:52 PM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?

   
   
   

   Badger

   Bret could be one of the next really good coaches however after going 12-1 and winning a big bowl game he sort of slid off the path a bit in his sophmore year.

   Maybe he can bounce back this year and if he does id agree he should be on this list.

8. AUtigerman said:

   posted on May 23, 2008 1:03 PM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?

   
   
   

   
   Tubbs at #9 is a pretty fair assesment however if the changes he has made this year,hes manages to get to the SEC title game he will move well up this list.

   My early season completely bias opinion in which i highly respect is AU finishes 10-2 and wins the SEC west. Tubbs wins SEC coach of the year and AU beats Florida for SEC title.

   So there you have it. Oh and while im at it USC wins NT.

9. Ramblin' Gator said:

   posted on May 23, 2008 5:26 PM — 216.10.193.21 — link — abuse?

   
   
   

   #1: 1st-and-whatever, could you be a bigger homer / gator hater? ...and no, that is not something to be proud of.

   Also, Grobe is WAY too high on this list. Wake has done well the last two seasons because the ACC has been off, WAY off! He's a good coach, but doesn't deserve the top 10 (yet).

   Personally, I'd put Leavitt a lot higher. He has built USF from nothing, literally.

10. Tomcat said:

    posted on May 23, 2008 9:48 PM — 69.150.213.9 — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    I totally agree with Kev's assesement,although I for one think that Todd Grahmn should be on the list as well as Art Briles.Where's June Jones?
    Mark Mangino is should be top ten.Took a team from the bottom that couldnt beat Baylor to a 12-1 record and beat VT in a their Bowl.
    Petrino doesnt belong- Zook,Schiano, & Bielema all belong
    Next year look for Gary Patterson, Mike Gundy & Houston Nutt
    Go Rice Owls

11. Tomcat said:

    posted on May 24, 2008 12:29 AM — 69.150.213.9 — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    This is an interesting off-season topic
    When looking at this list one has to wonder what the criterea is for their analysis.
    Recent success? overall record? potential?
    I did a little research and my own and found some interesting information.

    All time coaching legends winning percentage
    Woody Hays tOSU .75
    Paul Bryant Bama .78
    Frank Broyles Ark .70
    R. C. Slokum T A&M .72
    B. Switzer OU .83
    B. Snyder KSU .66
    L. Carr Mich .75
    Now looking at this list and coaches win %
    #2 Jim Tressel OSU .73
    #3 Urban Meyer UF .81
    #5 Bob Stoops OU .81
    #7 Frank Beamer VTech .65
    #8 Jim Grobe Wake F .52
    #9 T. Tubberville AU .66
    #10 Mack Brown UT .65
    #11 D. Erickson Az St .69
    #13 N. Saban Bama .67
    #15 R. Rodiguez Mich .69
    #17 B. Mendenhall BYU .73
    Now I didnt look up all of them and I'm sure I'll hear about it from some of the fans,but I brought this up, just to give yall something to ponder and disscuss. In CFB isnt winning everything ?
    Coaches that didnt make the list

    B. Bielema Wisc .80
    J. Paterno PSU .74
    G. Patterson TCU .71
    D. Hawkins Colo .72
    F. Solich Ohio .67
    T. Grahmn Tulsa .62
    These guys didnt make the list however look at their overall winn percentage-Wow just as good as some of the best all-time
    Tomcats up & comers
    Houston Nutt Miss .60
    David Balliff Rice .57
    

12. 1st_and_NOLE said:

    posted on May 24, 2008 12:34 PM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    Ramblin' Gator #9:

    I'm a "Gator Hater"? Really? Why? Because you didn't agree with my assessment of Spurrier and Urban Meyer? I'd challenge you to find previous posts of mine where I'm doing nothing but hating on the Gators.

    Sorry if thinking Urban Meyer is one or two spots too high makes me a "Gator hater." I didn't realize those one or two precious spots meant so much to you.

    It may have helped if I gave my reasons why I thought what I did. I didn't have much time and I choose to add in the CW comment vs elaborate on my previous comments so that may have been my mistake.

    As pointed out by Kev in regards to Spurrier, he hasn't really accomplished anything at USCe. He's done nothing at USCe to warrant being ranked in the top 25. Is he still a good HC? Of course. But it appears this list (for the most part) is based off what coaches have done at their current schools (I say that based on the little comments following the coach - none reflect on a previous coaching job). So, then yes, Spurrier is too high under those circumstances.

    In regards to Meyer, as I said, he's still a top 5 coach (sorry if that makes me a Gator hater). I don't think Meyer should be ranked ahead of Les Miles. They both started at their respective schools at the same relative time (2005 was their first coached season their). Les Miles has accomplished a little bit more then Meyer has though.

    They both obviously have a NC under their belt and 1 SEC title. But, in 2005 Les Miles won the West and lost to UGA in the SECCG. Meyers has been to the SECCG once, not twice. Plus, if you look at their overall records, Miles is slightly better.

    Miles has lost exactly two games every year while at LSU. Meyer has gone 9-3, 13-1, and 9-4 which averages out to roughly 2.6 loses per year.

    So, I don't agree with Meyer being above Les Miles. Now, if you want to debate Meyers is better then Bob Stoops, fine with me. I won't argue much one way or the other.

    Sorry if that makes me a Gator hater.

13. Ramblin' Gator said:

    posted on May 24, 2008 1:48 PM — 166.129.171.182 — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    #12: I accept your apology - a$$nole! ;-)

    Out of twenty five coaches listed, you singled out two - the current and former UF coaches - as over-rated. Really? The other 23 are perfectly ranked or under-rated in your opinion? Guess that makes you sufficiently "fair and balanced" to be an anchor on Fox Noise.

    Looks like they got Bobby Bowden's ranking about right. ;-)

    Just kidding, this list has an odd mix of "what have you done for me lately" (e.g. Gary Pinkel) vs. "long-term legacy" (e.g. Spurrier). In fairness, I don't think you can include Spurrier in the ranking without also including Bowden (IMO).

    On the other hand, if you want to avoid being called a homer, you might want to broaden your negative response to cover more than just UF coaches - you end up looking less obvious that way.

14.  Kevin Donahue said:

    posted on May 24, 2008 1:59 PM — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    @Tomcat - There is one that you left out, ya know? ;)

15. 1st_and_NOLE said:

    posted on May 24, 2008 2:36 PM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    #13:

    As I had stated, I didn't have much time when I made my original post so no, I didn't comment on the other 23 coaches.

    Even if I had more time, I probably wouldn't have commented on them being over or under rated. Why?

    Mainly because I'm not familiar enough with a number of coaches on the list to make a judgment on their ranking.

    Of the coaches list I'm more familiar with like Richt, Stoops, Beamer, Grobe (whom I commented on), Saban, Miles (whom I commented on in my 2nd post), Tuberville, Tressel, PC, and Brown... I don't have much of a problem with where they're ranked (unless I made a previous comment about them).

    There were only 3 coaches I knew enough about to comment on - so I did. Yes, two happened to be current or past UF coaches.

    But, I think a gave fair and unbiased reasoning in my 2nd post as to why I feel they're a little high on the list. You may feel different but to each their own I guess.

16. Tomcat said:

    posted on May 24, 2008 8:53 PM — 69.150.213.9 — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    #14 Hey Kev Which one would you be refering too?
    Darrel Royal ?----.74
    Gene Stallings?---.55
    Jackie Sherril ?----.59
    Emory Bellard----.55
    Ken Hatfeild?
    Just Joking Kev, Ya I couldnt have included alot of other great current and former coaches, Kinda figuered I get a little slack for the exclusion of some the of the greatest.
    Jimmie Johnson----.69
    Barry Alvarez-----.61
    To all you Dawg fans sorry
    Mark Richt-------.79
    Seminoles
    Bobby Bowden-----.75
    Tigers
    Tommy Bowden-----.65
    Well I listed a few more
    Adios Tomcat

17. Tomcat said:

    posted on May 25, 2008 2:57 AM — 69.150.213.9 — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    1st & Nole & Kev Its quite obvious that CFB fans tend to be geographicaly challenged.
    I really didnt even notice that until Kev called me on my exclusion of certain great coaches.Then I realized that most of the coaches that I mentioned were OU,Tex A&M, Ark etc. etc.
    In other words like 1st & Nole says we tend to focus primeraly on our team and its rivals- call me a homer-whatever. In this part of the country we dont worry much about FSU,Miami,VT,UGA,AU or Fla unless we happen to meet them in a bowl etc.etc. The Longhorns have long standing rivalries with OU,Ark and Tex A&M and their current and previous coaches. Some of these same coaches that coached in the SWC also coached in the SEC and Nat Championships. To the Razorback's fans looking foward to yall's visit to Austin.
    Adios Tomcat
    Hookem-Horns

18. Ramblin' Gator said:

    posted on May 25, 2008 10:33 AM — 216.10.193.23 — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    Sure, there's regional and conference bias. However, if I said Meyer and Spurrier were under-rated and Bowden, Richt and Shannon all stink, then I would qualify for official homer status criticism. Regional limitations can excuse the lack of valid opinions on some subjects, but that's a poor excuse in this modern, highly-connected world. What? No internet connection?

    Also, 1st&N - claiming "I didn't have much time" is a really poor excuse. If you don't have time to write a quality post, why bother? It's a wimpy excuse for claiming a do-over...

    I didn't have much time.

    The sun was in my eyes.

    I didn't sleep well last night.

    The dog ate my homework.

    More likely...

    I'm a complete homer.

19. 1st_and_NOLE said:

    posted on May 25, 2008 12:02 PM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    Ramblin' Gator #18:

    The bottom line is the points I made regarding my opinion on Meyer's and Spurriers ranking. I believe you even agreed with me on Spurrier.

    I think I have a fair assessment on Meyer as well in regards to having Les Miles ahead of him. Do you disagree with that?

20. Ramblin' Gator said:

    posted on May 25, 2008 3:33 PM — 216.10.193.24 — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    #19: No, I don't agree with either of those points. My point on Spurrier is NOT that he's over-rated, but rather that Bobby Bowden is under-rated. In complete candor, I feel that Meyer is the second best coach, trailing only PC. I also must claim that PC has the nation's best home field advantage when it comes to recruiting (I'm presuming that most kids would prefer to play in LA rather than Gainesville, Tallahassee, Baton Rogue, College Station, Athens, Tuscaloosa, etc.).

    You're certainly entitled to your opinion and maybe you aren't a complete homer, but you sure look that way when your first post jumps on the two most popular coaches in the history of G-ville. I fully expected your next post to assail Stoops.

    Well, I'm about to get on a plane heading to Japan where I will have limited internet connection. Also, the DISQUS posting system isn't working for me, so I probably won't be posting again for a while. So if any of you feel owe me a pot-shot or a come-back, now's the time - BRING IT ON!!

21. Tomcat said:

    posted on May 25, 2008 11:40 PM — 69.150.213.9 — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    1st & Nole-Ramblin G
    Look guys its kinda funny yalls little bickering
    as no were someone belongs.I can understand were a FSU fan shows his bias even claiming that Miles should be ranked ahead of Meyer.
    Check this out sports fans
    Pete Carrol 7 yrs .84
    Urban Meyer 7 yrs .81
    Mark Richt 7 yrs .79
    Les Miles 7 yrs .69
    I thought it was remarkable that these four guys have been HC's for 7 years each-so it is real easy to compare between the four guys, which have all done extremely well, but I ask. How will they compare over the long haul and compare to some of the greatest of all time
    For Example
    Steve Spurrier 18 yrs .74
    Ara Parseghan 24 yrs .75
    Mack Brown 24 yrs .65
    his first year at Tulane 1-10 and his first two years at NC 1-10 took losing programs and turned them around-this didn't help his overall perc wins
    Mack Brown at Texas 10 yrs .80
    He's right up there with the rest over recent times I didnt figure his last 7 years, but I know for a fact he won at least 10 games 7 yrs in a row
    None of those other guys at the top did that
    Now active living legends
    Bobby Bowden 42 yrs .75
    Joe Paterno 42 yrs .74

    Thats coaching 35 years longer than Miles,Carrol,Richt and Meyer

    Paul Bryant 38 yrs .78
    Sometimes folks need to put things in perspective
    Adios Tomcat

22. Tomcat said:

    posted on May 28, 2008 4:25 PM — 70.248.25.176 — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    I havent the slighest idea of whats going on.
    I'm still out here somewhere-beats the heck outa me?
    Adios

23. VolFan17 said:

    posted on June 2, 2008 8:48 AM — 70.88.83.125 — link — abuse?

    
    
    

    I find it really hard to believe that no one can even mention the winningest active coach in college football right now. 2 SEC Championships, 1 National Championship and 5 SEC East titles... Phillip Fulmer deserves atleast a mention in the top 25. He's been to a bowl game 15 out of 16 seasons. Give me a break... Jim Grobe, Dennis Erickson, Mark Mangino, Gary Pinkel, Bronco Mendenhall, Brian Kelly, Jeff Tedford, Mike Riley, Mike Belotti, Pat Hill... are you serious? What a list of jokes. Kansas is freakin horrible. They play in a weak Big 12 same with Missouri who beat Arkansas but Arkansas was running a completely different offense that game. Arizona State might be the number one most underachieving team in the nation 3 years running. Oregon can't even beat Arizona without there stud QB. Oregon State upsets USC(so did Stanford..don't see there coach on here) and CAL in two years and for some reason their coach is a genius. And please don't even make me state the obvious about BYU, Cincinnati, and Fresno State. And just because Petrino did ok in the Big East does NOT mean he will do anything in a loaded SEC scedule. I predict Arkansas to finish 4th maybe 5th if there not careful with Miss St. And Houston Nutt might have a little somethin for him too. Not to mention the two teams from the East they will have to play. And in all fairness... what has Virginia Tech really done under Beamer thats been so impressive? They are toward the top in a very weak ACC. I personally think the Big East is tougher and they are no good. The Pac-10, as much as I hate to say it, is the only conference making strides toward SEC standards.