January 14, 2008
Ranking the SEC coaches
Perennial talking-head instigator Paul Finebaum of the Birmingham News, has put together his list ranking the SEC head coaches.
Now, I've said before that the SEC is STOCKED with outstanding coaching talent. Finebaum points out that five current SEC coaches are wearing national championship rings (Steve Spurrier, Phil Fulmer, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban and Les Miles) and Tommy Tuberville has his people's champion ring.
Some of Finebaum's list might be pretty accurate, but some of the rankings are just... well, you be the judge.
1. Mark Richt, Georgia: Richt recovered from a down year in 2006 with a stunning 2007 mark of 10-2, a No. 2 final ranking and the preseason pick of many to win it all in 2008. He is consistently one of the best recruiters in the country and, at this moment in history, the best head coach in the SEC. What's even more impressive about Richt was his ability to make vital changes, which separates him from many of his brethren. He gave up the play-calling duties and became more of a CEO. Still, though, he figured out a way to get more emotion and passion from his players (evidenced by the outburst against Florida), which translated into a wonderful season.
2. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina...
3. Urban Meyer, Florida: The bowl loss stung, but there is no denying Meyer is a top-tier coach and his recruiting has been superb. His program is first-rate from A to Z, but the question remains: How he will deal with the volatile Florida fan base that has come to expect and demand perfection?
4. Nick Saban, Alabama...
5. Les Miles, LSU...
6. Tommy Tuberville, Auburn...
7. Phil Fulmer, Tennessee: Only Fulmer can seemingly go into every game in the second half of the season with his job on the line and still find a way to nearly win the SEC championship, notch 10 wins and end up ranked No. 12 in the nation. Fulmer's status as one of the premier coaches has certainly slipped, but he's not to be counted out.
8. Bobby Petrino...
9. Houston Nutt, Ole Miss...
10. Sylvester Croom, Mississippi State: What does it say that the universal SEC coach of the year is stuck near the bottom of the heap when it comes to the quality of coaches in this league? It says the league is top-heavy and brutal and there is a very fine line. Croom is a good coach, but he will have to shore up his defense now that very talented assistant Ellis Johnson has departed for Arkansas.
11. Rich Brooks, Kentucky...
12. Bobby Johnson, Vanderbilt: There is no room for this poor fellow to breathe in the SEC. Losing his best player, Earl Bennett, won't help his prospects for improvement either. His teams are outmanned but competitive, and Vandy came within a win of being bowl-eligible in 2007.
I'll give Finebaum credit, he does explain his rankings - even when they don't make sense.
For example, ranking Spurrier at #2 in the SEC is -- in my opinion -- invoking "good ol' days syndrome". Spurrier has an outstanding history, but it would be difficult to defend ranking him in the top half of the SEC based on the reality at South Carolina. Despite two top-ten recruiting classes and a whole lot of visor, teh Gamecocks were the 77th ranked offense in the NCAA this season. Spurrier has lost more games in Columbia (13) than he did in twelve years at Florida (12). South Carolina is no closer to consistently beating any of the SEC elite -- despite an upset here and there -- and you could make an argument that much of the SEC has passed him by. (I'm not saying that I would make that argument, but... there are some in South Carolina that are.)
I also think it is more than a coincidence that Finebaum's rankings generally carry a heavy SEC West slant. That's his home beat, so maybe it's just his inclination, but... IMO, the list is SEC West heavy.
Comments:
bozwellj said:
posted on January 14, 2008 11:45 AM — 130.160.116.98 — link — abuse?
I completely agree that Spurrier is overranked (probably because of Finebaum's personal relationship with the old ball coach), but I'm not sure how you can label this list SEC West heavy when the top 3 coaches and 4 of the top 7 hail from the East. The two cellar dwellers come from the East as well, but where exactly do you expect the coaches from Kentucky and Vandy to end up?
bozwellj said:
posted on January 14, 2008 11:46 AM — 130.160.116.98 — link — abuse?
I completely agree that Spurrier is overranked (probably because of Finebaum's personal relationship with the old ball coach), but I'm not sure how you can label this list SEC West heavy when the top 3 coaches and 4 of the top 7 hail from the East. The two cellar dwellers come from the East as well, but where exactly do you expect the coaches from Kentucky and Vandy to end up?
posted on January 14, 2008 11:56 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
I hate articles like this--even if they don't come from the troll. How far back do you want to go in evaluating your criteria? There's so many problems with little 'love' lists like this. They should only reflect what these coaches did the last season. If it did, there's no way that the troll can justify his man-crushesque ranking of Saban.
2007 Season results-oriented revamped list:
1)Miles
2)Richt
3)Fulmer
4)T-Tuberville
4)T-Meyer
6)Brooks
7)Croom
8)Johnson
9)Nutt
10)Spurrier
11)Saban
12) Petrino DNQ
gatorhippy
posted on January 14, 2008 12:30 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
My list with regards to the final results at the end of the season...
1. Miles: Conference champion coupled with a MNC. This is just naturally where he should be at the end of a season such as we have had. If there was a better coach this season they would have won the league, but they didn't...
2. Fulmer: Hard for me to put Phil this high but he certainly righted the ship when it appeared the Vols would be in for another dismal season. Taking his team to the SECCG and their shellacking of the Dawgs noses him above the remaining.
3. Richt: Had his team finish strong despite embarrassing losses to UT and USC early. Ranking Mark third is simply a nod to the way he had his team finish but without the strong finish though he would easily be further down the ranking and would have maybe ranked higher if he had been able to keep his team in control of their own destiny in the divisional race.
4. Tuberville: What can be said about this guy. He finds ways to win games the Tigers shouldn't and seems to choke away opportunities when they should. Still, he recruits solid and his teams play solid year in and out. This year was no exception despite the late season stumble at LSU which they were in the whole way and had the opportunity to snatch the West from the Bengals.
5. Croom: Sly won the SEC Coach of the Year and got his team to forget about their opening game pasting by the eventual MNC team by putting together some solid game plans and winning a few games where nobody gave MSU a chance. Dropped a few notches due to poor showing at Morgantown.
6. Meyer: By putting together a year that was pretty much expected out of the Gators following their heavy losses on defense, Urban squeezes into the top half of the conference. If Meyer had gotten two more wins instead of losses he might have moved into the top four, but a home loss to an (at the time) unranked opponent and a bowl loss dropped him to the bottom of the top.
7. Brooks: Rich had a team that possibly should have performed better but yet is still trying to catch up with the top end of the league talent wise. If his recruiting can pick up on the defensive side of the ball (Leesburg, FL MLB recruit Danny Trevathan would be a great addition if he can land him) and he can find a worthy replacement for Woodson expect him to finish better in the future.
8. Johnson: Any guy that can coach Vandy to a near bowl bid is not the worst coach in the league IMO.
9. Nutt:How any guy can squander away and screw up the season with the kind of talent he had on the offensive side of the ball is beyond me. Good luck, Ole Miss...
10. Saban: Possibly the second biggest disappointing coaching performance of the season in the SEC...
11. Spurrier: Definitley the biggest coaching disappointment of the season. However, you have to wonder whether it's the coach or the players not buying in...
12. Petrino: Welcome to the SEC, Bobby. When you actually do something in this league I'll give you a better spot than the one I was saving for Big Ed O.
dawgfan said:
posted on January 14, 2008 12:49 PM — 65.222.248.66 — link — abuse?
@ JZNole #5 - CMR has won the SEC twice since he has been there and been to the dome another time.
CMR has won (10) games in a season 5 of the 7 years he has been in Athens and all 5 of those teams were ranked in the final top 10.
@ Rambling' Gator #9 - the only problem w/ what you are saying is that winning the MNC is as much about timing as anything. UGA went 13-1 in 2002, but OSU and Miami both went undefeated. Had there been two undefeateds last year Meyer would not have a NC either (heck, if USC doesn't lay an egg against UCLA, UF would not have won the NC). I am not taking anything away from UF and Meyer last year...they deserve what they got. But think about it...if USC beats UCLA, then they go to the MNC and UF would have never even gotten a shot.
Lace Curtains said:
posted on January 14, 2008 12:53 PM — 72.71.113.81 — link — abuse?
The SEC is overwhelmingly the best football conference in the nation with an abundance of excellent coaches. With a science background, I think it is impossible to realistically form a valid ranking of the coaches. Too many variables, so any list is purely opinion and speculation. Of course, this is where the fun begins because every dedicated college football fan has his/her opinion.
To me, the best coach is the one who "gets the most out of his team", and that too is impossible to measure, so let the debates continue because it is more fun than talking politics or religion!
Lace Curtains said:
posted on January 14, 2008 1:00 PM — 72.71.113.81 — link — abuse?
The SEC is overwhelmingly the best football conference in the nation with an abundance of excellent coaches. With a science background, I think it is impossible to realistically form a valid ranking of the coaches. Too many variables, so any list is purely opinion and speculation. Of course, this is where the fun begins because every dedicated college football fan has his/her opinion.
To me, the best coach is the one who "gets the most out of his team", and that too is impossible to measure, so let the debates continue because it is more fun than talking politics or religion!
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on January 14, 2008 1:09 PM — 143.127.131.4 — link — abuse?
#10: gatorhippy, agreed - but taken on strength of their most recent performances, Richt still doesn't add up to the top of the list: Miles does. It would be like claiming Terry Bowden (circa 1994) is the all-time greatest football coach to put Richt at the top of the list.
#11: dawgfan, yeah and if UGA hadn't lost two early season games and if cars ran on water and if money grew on trees and if...(continue listing arbitrary excuses until you're satisfied). The 2008 UGA football team should be the best team the dawgs have fielded since 1980 and quite possibly their best team ever. Try winning the title and then you can "woof" with credibility.
gatorhippy
posted on January 14, 2008 1:13 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
RG (#14):
See my list at post #8...
After Miles and Fulmer, Richt was easily the third best coach in the league this past season...
I agree that he didn't deserve to be first but he certainly did a better job all around than Saban, Spurrier, Meyer did this year...
TE
posted on January 14, 2008 2:18 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
My ranking? Hmm...
1.) Les Miles How can you not objectively rank this guy here? His first LSU team played for an SEC title without a quarterback after Russell broke a collarbone in the Championship Game. But, let's rewind here...The man coached a team that dealt with death, dismemberment, trauma, heartache, bewilderment, and the entire spectrum of the human emotional experience just as fall camp started. Talk about imploding...on a first year head coach? Trying to stand out from Nick Saban's shadow? Getting his first game cancelled? The 2nd game shifted halfway across the country and two time zones? The third game pushed back two days because of another Hurricane? Yet, he won 11 games, played for a Championship, and pistol-whipped a Top 10 team in Miami in their bowl game-WITH HIS BACKUP QUARTERBACK!
He's averaged better than 11 wins/year, played for two SEC titles, won this year, and somehow guided his team through injuries to their most important players on all sides of the ball to a two-loss, improbably championship...
Name me one other coach that has since 1960? Anyone? Oh yeah, he also dealt with a small issue on ESPN GameDay the day his team lined up for a title-WITH THEIR BACKUP QUARTERBACK!
The guy has done more with more pressure and distractions than ANYONE in America did during that time period...He's without peer...Great recruiter, puts together a dynamite staff...He's the best...
2.) Houston Dale Nutt - The only man Nick Saban personally endorsed to take over this job could've had the Nebraska job a few years ago, and rode Casey Dick and an obviously immature and not-ready-for-prime-time Mitch Mustain to a 10 win, SEC Title Game appearance season...You've heard the tired axiom of doing "more with less", but the guy develops talent (turning a gangly white kid named Matt Jones into a 1st round draft pick and a wideout for Jacksonvile), and brought a team to the SEC Championship game with the kid at quarterback as a sophomore. He recruited talent to Fayettnam-somehow-and maximizes the effort on the field of said talent better than anyone else in this conference.
The guy won 19 games the past two years with a jack squat on defense and two workhorse mail toters...
3.) Nick Saban - Give him this year, gentleman...If he can retain Major, they're the most dangerous team aside from LSU in the West next year...We've known about him for awhile, but Bama and the rest of the nation never really wanted to give him any credit until after he left Baton Rouge. The credit's there, now. Sure, this season tanked, and yes, he did lose to ULM...But, this guy's the ultimate architect...He has issues with game management and his conservative approach may wrankle a lot of people and even cost him games, but he's easily one of the best coaches in America.
4.) Urban Meyer - You can't rank this guy any lower than this...If he could recruit a running back he could trust, he might be higher than this...But, as the Master of the Spread Option, it remains to be seen if the offense-as Meyer wants it run-can operate the way its intended. Meyer has had personnel issues in each of his first three years, and the leaky boat sank when a gimpy, tender clavicled Tebow couldn't shoulder the load against Georgia in a loss, and then they gaffed away what was to most an almost certain bowl game victory.
5.) Mark Richt - The guy's won two conference championships, has proven to be just as adept at recruiting quarterbacks as he has been in developing them. While never quite able to get over the hump, he's piled up wins and done what Ray Goff & Jim Donnan weren't able to do: Bring Jawja and them Hairy Dawgs back to prominence in the Conference.
6.) Steve Spurrier - No doubt he's dealing against a stacked deck, with such stalwarts as Florida & Georgia in his own division, and the resurgence of Kentucky & Tennessee's lessened but still tough play in the East. But, Steve's "coaching out the string". He's got a chance to improve his standings in my rankings the next two years, but he was simply unable to do anything with Blake Mitchell in three years with the kid, and that's the first time we've seen Darth Visor unable to either flick the light on for a signal-caller, or jam his head right into the switch...
7.) Tommy Tuberville - Tubbs plays EVERYONE tough. Which is why this ranking seems a tad unfair...I mean, his teams always compete, and you have to like that about the guy. He's also not afraid to make tough decisions like axing a personal friend and the semi-popular Noel Mazzone to bring in new ideas...Landing finally on Borges, who brought him an undefeated season and turned underachieving Jason Campbell into a first round NFL draft pick-and a starter for a playoff team! He also showed he's adept at hiring on the other side with Muschamp coming over.
But, there are cracks in the facade. Tommy came over in 1999, around the same time 'Bama went on its probation. Just how much of Tuberville's success can be attributed to his own talent and skill as a program head at Auburn, and how much is simply because The "other" Tigers simply had a numbers advantage signing kids in state and had more to offer and more on-the-field success to lean on during Bama's years of famine?
Now that Saban's in Tuscaloosa, we'll see what Tuberville's truly made of...Just as Bama has no more excuses, neither does Tuberville...
8.) Phil Fulmer - Another guy seemingly way down on a list to have a BCS National Title, but to wit:
He got one in 1998...10 years ago...Since then, he's been in position to win or at least play for one more, and his team got punked out...They can't beat Florida anymore, Jawja under Richt has made them far more competitive, and now with Spurrier back in Columbia instead of Gainesville, his job is even tougher.
The off-the-field transgressions of his team are too numerous to tick off here...Two players-hosting a recruit!-were busted just this past weekend-with the recruit!-smoking marijuana...You've got kids beating up regular students in rec league games, Fulmer getting the drug policy changed for LaMarcus Coker, only to see him test positive AGAIN for Ganja...Heck, their center got the cops called to his house, where they found cracked glass, broken windows, and two drunk chicks in his bed!
Wait...Was that an off-the-field transgression, or more like a helluva weekend for that kid? Perhaps we shouldn't mark that down as negative, after all...
Fulmer's steady decline is in proportion to guys like Richt, Meyer, and Spurrier arriving (or re-arriving) on the scene...His program's off-field behaviour could be indicative of a guy whose napping at the wheel, bigtime...
9.) Rich Brooks - A guy in a no-win situation. Loaded with talent on offense, he can still only muster 8 wins in this cut throat league...He's shown he can recruit, and Joker Phillips & Randy Sanders are excellent hires, but this is simply a bad fit. A lot like real estate...It's all a matter of location...Good coach, bad location...
10.) Sylvester Croom - He should be way higher, but the guys ahead of him have either had more success in a tougher situation, or have way better coaching chops than Sly...He beat Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, and won his Bowl Game. That should register Coach Of The Year consideration, and it did...But, in this league...You can't rank him any higher...
11.) Bobby Johnson - Had Vandy one game away from bowl eligibility. Without Jay Cutler. This is Vandy we're talking about...Wow!
12.) Bobby Petrino - What's this guy done other than recruit one good wideout, a hurt all the time running back, and run away from the same program after a decent run? He left the program in an absolute SHAMBLES from what the rumblings are that Cardinals AD Tom Jurich (whose a prime candidate for LSU AD, by the way), and teetering on the edge of some NCAA issues...He just found out he loses two first round draft picks at running back, which means their talented junior center's gone, too. It leaves him with their most potent offensive weapon as Casey Dick...Which shouldn't inspire much confidence in anyone!
Whether he can build a program from scratch remains to be seen, but if the word on the street is true and he does sign super-transfer Ryan Mallet, he could move up this list quickly...
posted on January 14, 2008 2:56 PM — link — abuse? said:
@bozwellj - where exactly do you expect the coaches from Kentucky and Vandy to end up?
Well, I really expect Brooks to be in the top seven at least. UK is a team that can beat anyone in the country on any given Saturday - and that is directly to what Brooks is doing in Lexington. They knocked out a Louisville team that everyone claimed was one of the elite. (I phrase it that way because I did not & do not hold UofL at that level.) They knocked off LSU. They beat Arkansas on the road. They lost a heartbreaker in OT to Tennessee. Kentucky isn't the most talented team, but they are playing with the top teams. And Brooks deserves his props.
dawgfan said:
posted on January 14, 2008 3:02 PM — 65.222.248.66 — link — abuse?
@ Ramblin' Gator #14 - UGA could win next years national championship and the next one after that and I still wouldn't "woof w/ any credibility." I pull for UGA because I love the school. I am no cooler, smarter, or "more credible" when I wake up on Sundays after UGA wins on Saturdays. I have never understood the logic of people like you who think b/c the team they are a fan of wins that it makes them better and smarter or, once again, in this case "more credible." It is nice to know though, that grown adults like you need 18-22 yr old kids to win so they can brag to their adult friends. The fact that you think UF winning the NC makes yours and all UF's fans opinion more credible is purely laughable and flat out ludicrous.
OK...Let me hear it. Go ahead and make your ubelievably funny comeback about how, "UGA won't even win the NC next year, much less the next two" or some other crack that only you mental giants can think of.
dawgfan said:
posted on January 14, 2008 3:16 PM — 65.222.248.66 — link — abuse?
@ Ramblin Gator #14 - my point wasn't to play the "what if" card. It was simply that even though UF WAS THE BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY...they would not even have had the chance to prove it if USC had not lost. USC is a media darling and started out better in the preseason so they would have gone to the big game had they not lost.
gatorstud said:
posted on January 14, 2008 3:29 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
hey dawgfan...#22....why don't you come down off your soapbox, and quit preachin....
your quote "hey dawgfan #22.....your quote "I have never understood the logic of people like you who think b/c the team they are a fan of wins that it makes them better and smarter or, once again, in this case "more credible." It is nice to know though, that grown adults like you need 18-22 yr old kids to win so they can brag to their adult friends"
so are we to believe that YOU have never made a prediction of any kind....you have never got in a freindly argument about who's team is gonna win the next big game...c'mon man....you have never boasted about your dawgs on any level because they won a big game you think you know what will happen next....
pu--lease...like i said..time to come down off that soapbox....
go gators....
Stouds said:
posted on January 14, 2008 3:45 PM — 68.143.5.138 — link — abuse?
TE: please don't bring Blake Mitchell into the argument. He might have been on the team for 3 years, but he only started about half the games, and he certainly never had "IT". He was the most unpredictable QB I have ever seen, and SC had one of the worst O-lines in the SEC. Blake was not recruited by Spurrier, and probably wouldn't have been, simply for the fact he is not a vocal leader at all. I don't disagree with your rankings of coaches except Saban being so high. Spurrier's first QB recruit Chris Smelly started I believe 4 or 5 games this season and won them all. Was he great = not even close, but he will be good.
Obviously Spurrier does not have the talent level of UF, UGA, LSU, UT, etc.... His best recruiting class was this past year. What he has done is beat UF and UT at Neyland for the first time in SC's history. He beat UGA between the hedges this year. The past two years he has had a closer game against the National Champions than Ohio State, even though both games were played at Florida (1 point loss) and at LSU. Does any of this mean anything, NO, but give him a little credit for doing stuff that has never been done with much less talent.
gatorhippy
posted on January 14, 2008 3:54 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
Stouds (#25):
Blake was not recruited by Spurrier, and probably wouldn't have been, simply for the fact he is not a vocal leader at all...
Neither was Shane Matthews, but he gripped the idea pretty well...
Either Mitchell is dense, the OBC is losing his touch or a combination of the two is the problem...
Either way...
Spurrier is NOT the second best coach in the SEC at this point...
Stouds said:
posted on January 14, 2008 4:17 PM — 68.143.5.138 — link — abuse?
Gatorhippy.......Uhhhhh....did you even read what I wrote? Let me reiterate "TE I do not disagree with your coach rankings" pretty straight forward I thought. Since TE had him at #6, I am not sure where you got Spurrier being the second best, b/c it sure wasn't from me. That's great about Shane Mathews, but not the case with Mitchell at all. Was he dense = hell yes he was. He was suspended twice for academic reasons and once for disciplinary reasons. The guy didn't even get to start the first game of his (5th year) senior game for not going to class, and punching bouncers in 5 points. Does that sound like someone who has "gripped" the idea. Doesn't to me, and thats all I was saying.
BayouBengal said:
posted on January 14, 2008 5:47 PM — 72.149.254.106 — link — abuse?
Petrino at #8.....that is simply redonk-ulous!
1)Miles - 3 back to back 11-2 seasons, plus an SEC and a N.C. (need I say more)
2)Meyer - Florida may have lost 4 games this year, but played a brutal schedule...along with huge losses on there deffense. They did win a N.C. last year. They will contend for it all in '08
3)Richt - He has had the bulldogs in SEC chmpnshp contention for the past 5 years! His recruiting classes are as strong as ever!
4)Saban - He is in the process of rebuilding his 2nd SEC school! He is a master recruiter...also he has won an SEC and a N.C.!
5)Fulmer - He's managed to keep the TU job forever
6)Tuberville - Mr consistency!
7)Spurrier - What have you done for me lately! He needs a QB to be the Spurrier of old.
8)Rich Brooks - If he finds another QB that can play with best of em'.....look out SEC!
9)Sly Croom - He falls b/c his deffense weakens after '07....but at least he can scratch off "beat Saban" from his to do list!
10)Houston Nutt - Lets see how you do without McFadden at a weaker program.....and, can he "out-recruit" Sly Croom in Mississippi?
11)Bobby Johnson - Hey....at least a high percentage of your players graduate!
12)Bobby Petrino - This isn't the Big EAST....get a year in the SEC under your belt and then I will judge your status among the SEC coaches! He did get Ryan Mallet to transfer from Mich to help him run that spread offense though!
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on January 14, 2008 5:50 PM — 143.127.131.4 — link — abuse?
#22: dawgfan, wow dude! Seems like you have described yourself pretty well with this post! Where did you get this crap about "cooler" and "smarter"? You're as bad as Gay Boy! Didn't they teach you kids to read while you were in Athens? Or are you just making this stuff up as you go? I certainly didn't write that BS. Oh well, you are doing a great job proving my point about lacking credibility with this post! Not that I needed it, but thanks for your help!
TampaGator said:
posted on January 14, 2008 5:50 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Dawgfan/#22:
"...I have never understood the logic of people like you who think b/c the team they are a fan of wins that it makes them better and smarter or, once again, in this case "more credible."..."
Self-righteous, pretentious crap, followed by:
"...It is nice to know though, that grown adults like you need 18-22 yr old kids to win so they can brag to their adult friends..."and:
"...Go ahead and make your ubelievably funny comeback...or some other crack that only you mental giants can think of..."
So which is it? Are you above talk'n smack, or are you sling'n it with the pigs? Can't have it both ways there, chief.
I'll join Gatorstud in suggesting that you get off your pedastal. Talk a little smack if you like, put please spare us the righteous indignation like your above it--ESPECIALLY, if you're going to follow that grabage up with some smack of your own.
GO GATORS!!
posted on January 14, 2008 6:08 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Gee, Lace, I was thinking Stevie Nicks, Leather and Lace kind of thing. Now I feel kinda creepy... What about you, TE?
Don't think I'm the only one who thought that...
Bayou Bengal: The only reason the troll would rank Petrino so high is as a dig at Auburn...
Stouds said:
posted on January 14, 2008 7:43 PM — 68.59.14.16 — link — abuse?
OK Gatorhippy since you want to be a jerk, live by your own rules, where did I say Spurrier was the second best coach? Oh, thats right I didn't. I will give you credit though I didn't say "TE I do not disagree about your coach rankings" I said, "I don't disagree with your rankings of coaches". Thank you for being obnoxious though, I realize you can't make out the fact that those two quotes mean the exact same thing, so I will try to break it down a little easier for you next time.
I will be waiting on your answer for where I wrote Spurrier was the second best though?
U. of S. C. 1978 said:
posted on January 14, 2008 9:00 PM — 97.82.188.250 — link — abuse?
It's been a while guys, after week 6 or 7, I didn't have anything positive to post, so I was in "read only" mode.
I don't put much stock in pre-season polls. In-season polls are a little better, but you still get the Hawaii's on those. On the other hand, a list like this is damn near worthless. What we have here, is a need to communicate. The writer gets paid to write, so he writes. The season is over and in the record books. It is, what it was.
I will however defend the ever brilliant Mr. Spurrier. He lost his best offensive player pre-season to the NFL. The best by far defensive player, was lost in-season, and there went the best pass defense in the SEC. Blake Mitchell had some skills, leadership was not one of them. I hope he is not holding his breath and waiting on a career in the NFL.
Trust me guys, this was a pretty damn good year for the Gamecocks, historically speaking. As I'm sure you all recall, We almost beat LSU early, and we did beat Georgia. Mr. Spurrier will be back, I thank the football gods for that. No coach will take the Gamecocks lightly next year.TE
posted on January 14, 2008 9:39 PM — 70.180.43.182 — link — abuse? said:
Lace Curtain's is a guy? WEA was already trolling for the digits...
I'm glad I made the Meat Curtains comment and then steered clear...
(In reality, I was warming up the Metaphor Meat-wagon, hoping to woo her, though GQ tells you in the Jessica Biel issue that sports-fan chicks do not make good girlfriends)
This does smack of something I'll allude to later...Lace Curtains, I myself am as Irish as Irish gets, though I don't have red hair, prefer potatoes over red meat, think Bono is a deity, or even use Irish Spring as a part of my daily hygeine regimen...
I'm all for pride, but your moniker smacks of what I call "The Gay"...
U. of S. C. 1978 said:
posted on January 14, 2008 10:50 PM — 97.82.188.250 — link — abuse?
Post # 29.
For craps sake my Irish/Scottish cousin! I did a little research and it seems the Lace Curtain immigrants were just as poor as all the other Irish immigrants fleeing the potato famine. What they did have seems to have been, "illusions of grandeur". I suggest you pick a manly moniker or "cease and desist" posting with a sissy name.dawgfan said:
posted on January 15, 2008 8:12 AM — 65.222.248.66 — link — abuse?
@ Tampa Gator and Gator stud - I never said anything along the lines of not being will to take a little smack. That wasn't my point. My point is simply that some people honestly believe that because the team they pull for is winning that it makes them cooler/smarter/more credible than the next guy. I don't mind a little smack, but when people begin to need their team to win so they can feel better about themselves, I begin to no longer talk CFB w/ that person.
08 should be fun! I hope UF and UGA both go into J'Ville undefeated b/c that will be the biggest game in the SEC in 10 years.
Go Dawgs!
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on January 15, 2008 8:46 AM — 74.185.133.40 — link — abuse?
#44: dawgfan, okay I get it. What I don't get is how you managed to attribute those qualities (i.e. needing victories from 20 YO kids to feel a sense of value) to someone you don't even know (i.e. me) and yet you don't consider it to be smack talk. I really doubt your name is Dr. Phil and somehow I think even McGraw would not try to diagnose a person's sense of self value from a blog post. Your post was simultaneously malicious and wimpy, which is quite a trick!
Back to the topic of the blog...
Finebaum wrote...
"Twice a year in this space, I rank the coaches 1 through 12. While recent events naturally sway opinions to a degree, the list is a comprehensive analysis of the coaches and their current value."
His list is "comprehensive" so it's most definitely NOT a ranking of performance for just this season.
I would rank Richt as the best coach in the NATION for the SECOND HALF of the 2007 season, but taking history into account, he should be ranked behind the 5 SEC coaches who have won the NC. That being stated, I have to admit that Spurrier's stock slipped this year with USC's late season collapse. On the other hand, Spurrier's Gamecocks beat Richt's Bulldogs this year, so...
posted on January 15, 2008 12:53 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
I wasn't flirting. I was just trying to welcome a girl on to the site--because we get so few of them on here.
This is eerily reminiscent of the time my girlfriend had me on Jerry Springer because she had something to confess to me...
Not!!! :-)Big Tide said:
posted on January 15, 2008 1:00 PM — 12.208.88.211 — link — abuse?
Do I have to remind everyone that a sub-par Michigan team opened up the whoop a** on Myer and the Lizards. Talk about letting the SEC down. Talk about second fiddle to Appy State? Come on Gatorstud, even a fanatic like you has to see the handwriting on the wall. I just got off the phone with my bookie and dropped a dime on Georgia for next years game NO MATTER WHAT THE LINE. Richt owns Florida now.
Can Saban get NO LOVE. He only BUILT the car that Miles is driving. I guess being the architect of a successful program doesn't count in this survey.
gatorhippy
posted on January 15, 2008 1:34 PM — 70.121.110.84 — link — abuse? said:
Big Tide (#49):
Do I have to remind everyone that a sub-par Michigan team opened up the whoop a** on Myer and the Lizards. Talk about letting the SEC down...
And do I have to remind everyone that LA-Monroe opened up the whoop a** on the Saban and the Mentrals...
Talk about letting the SEC down...
Zac said:
posted on January 15, 2008 2:15 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
Posts 29, 34, 41, & 42: This may be a small world a-brewin, but my father’s youngest sister is married to a Curtain. He’s definitely Irish. While he doesn’t think much of U2, let alone Bono, he’s way too high on Hilary Clinton (wishes he could be shagging her, while Bill’s out fondling…you get the picture.). Lace, you may have a relative in up-state NY.
I am truthfully in awe of this list. Without question there are great coaches in every conference. But great, and damn near great, from top to bottom, I don’t think so. Ranking them twice a year makes no sense, unless all you’re interested in is how well they recruit, keep their respective teams healthy, and how their respective teams do throughout that season.
I personally couldn’t rank them without a lot more research, and it would have to be historically based. I realize that may put some on this list at a disadvantage, given some aren’t doing as well as they used to, while others are just beginning to do well. Take Spurier, for example. Historically he’s been great; his SC campaign leaves a lot to be desired. Then again, for some reason, few coaches have been successful at SC; I don’t know why. (BTW, U of SC ’78, glad to see ya back!!!)
Anyway, I don’t get this Finebaum guy, but I dig this list!!!
posted on January 15, 2008 4:10 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Ron: I think that every episode on Springer when the girlfriend had something to confess it was that she wasn't really a girl...
Zac: You wouldn't really like the troll (Finebaum). He's a Tennessee grad who switched sides to be a big Alabama supporter. He dislikes Auburn and hates Tommy Tuberville so bad, it required comedy reading for most Tiger fans.
The way he gushes over Nick Saban, he makes the writers over at Tiger Beat, People, and Us blush...
Big Tide said:
posted on January 15, 2008 5:20 PM — 69.34.227.69 — link — abuse?
@Gatorhippy #50; I think LA Monroe is better football school than they are given credit, but in ranking coaches you have to look at an entire body of work IN RELATION to what the coach is working with. The Tide rebounded from a dismal finish in their bowl game. We found out who wanted to play. The win over Colorado was seen by a lot more people than the loss to LA Monroe. From what I saw, Florida looked like they were going through the motions. I can't wait to hear all the excuses you guys are going to come up with next year. I give Urban three more seasons and then he's off to San Diego State or the Big 10. Somebody needs to tell him the Big Secret - No Defense = No Job......
Bama Babe said:
posted on January 15, 2008 8:11 PM — 74.230.53.74 — link — abuse?
dapipcook # 53: "Hmm, I don't see how you can think the list is West Heavy since 6 of the 12 coaches listed are from the East and the top 2 spots belong to the East on this list...."
yeah, and the other 6 are from the West..which makes up the SEC...
And actually, the top 3 are from the East, so I do agree that it isn't exactly West heavy.I have to disagree with some of you saying Les Miles should be #1. He's not a genius coach, he's just REALLY lucky. Think about it. He was a few 4th downs vs Florida, last second play vs Auburn, and a John Parker Wilson fumble vs Alabama away from ending the regular season 7-5.
GA Boy said:
posted on January 15, 2008 8:23 PM — 75.137.174.61 — link — abuse?
dawgfan
Don't try to reason with Babblin' Gator and the Wonder Gator Twins. It is useless until we get a few more wins from those Gators. They always can trump any arguement that you make with the "win more than one in a row" response.
Just enjoy the excitement and the build up to next year. Our running game will be as scary as Arkansas' next year with Moreno and redshirt TB Caleb King running behind what will the best O Lines in the league. Let those Gator homers enjoy it while they can.
By the way TE is right about Les Miles. What the guy has done has been very special. I look forward to the game next year.
GO DAWGS!
GA Boy said:
posted on January 15, 2008 8:28 PM — 75.137.174.61 — link — abuse?
Bama Babe
You are right that Les Miles was a bit lucky but he was BALLSY as hell too! What coach would go for it on 4th down so many times and keep making it! That was unbelievable and awesome. The guy goes for it and it pays off for him. You don't go 11-2 in the SEC just by being lucky. He made the right gambles at the right time. Sounds like a great coach to me.WEA
Are you going to hit on Bama Babe too or you and Lace Curtains exclusive?GO DAWGS
U. of S. C. 1978 said:
posted on January 15, 2008 8:53 PM — 97.82.188.250 — link — abuse?
Thanks Zac. The end of our season was disappointing. However, I can honestly say that I would not trade Mr. Spurrier for any other coach. I have the feeling that the end of our season, turned into preparation for next season, coaches choice.
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on January 15, 2008 8:54 PM — 74.185.133.40 — link — abuse?
#57: Gay Boy, you've hurt my feelings by calling me a "homer". After I've made several predictions that UGA will win the SEC and compete for a national title next year, that really causes me pain!
Oh, wait a minute! You were "educated" (sic) in Athens, so you probably don't know what the word "homer" means. Sorry, my bad.
Bama Babe said:
posted on January 15, 2008 8:59 PM — 74.230.53.74 — link — abuse?
GA Boy,
Yes, Miles is definitely a gambler and it did pay off, but one of these days it will backfire on him. I know his 11-2 record wasn't all luck, I was just stating that if all those gutsy calls had not gone his way, he would have just been a mediocre coach in the league of greats this year.Bama Babe said:
posted on January 15, 2008 8:59 PM — 74.230.53.74 — link — abuse?
GA Boy,
Yes, Miles is definitely a gambler and it did pay off, but one of these days it will backfire on him. I know his 11-2 record wasn't all luck, I was just stating that if all those gutsy calls had not gone his way, he would have just been a mediocre coach in the league of greats this year.
posted on January 16, 2008 12:31 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
GA Boy: I missed your comment above. Funny!
Hey, Georgia should have a good team next year, but let's not get too big for our britches. The Dawgs are riding their longest winning streak against Florida in the last 17 years--one game and their longest streak against Auburn in the last 25 years--two games. I'm just saying...
Tech, one the other hand--different story. Although I root for SEC teams in OOC games, I kinda have adopted Tech to pull for since I get thrown tickets every now and then...
posted on January 16, 2008 3:40 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
AUTM: I'm anxiously awaiting the return of the androgynous Coondawg.
Just like you should never assume that a woman with a pooch belly is pregnant unless you actually see the baby's head starting to protrude, you should never assume on fanblogs that a poster is female unless they can provide you with a webcam site or something...
But even then....
Bama Babe said:
posted on January 16, 2008 5:56 PM — 70.146.240.164 — link — abuse?
Real funny, Tigerman.
But it's okay. Due to the fact that the side of my family I grew up around was orange and blue, I understand where you're coming from. I mean, it's not your fault you weren't taught any better. ;)All jokes aside, just to clear this up, I am definitely a female. A football lovin', diehard Alabama fan, I'll-kick-your-butt-in-a-backyard-game kinda gal.
Autigerman said:
posted on January 16, 2008 6:17 PM — 68.109.98.15 — link — abuse?
Welcome to Fan blogs Bama Babe.
First time posting I dont recall seeing you here.
So im supposing youd rank Nick Saban Top 3?I think hes a good coach but IMO if he wants to win soon he better find a new quarterback. Forget all the records he needs to find a kid that can win.
I like what ive read about Star Jackson. And if somehow he can land Julio Jones watch out.
Looks like he has Bama on the right course recruiting wise.Tomcat said:
posted on January 16, 2008 7:10 PM — 69.153.80.147 — link — abuse?
@#20 TE Now thats an educated post,didnt know you had it in ya- Have to admit you do have your moments. BTW we knew you'd have Miles #1
thread topic-kinda ridiculas
# 30 Bayou Bengal is that true that Ryan Malett has transfered to Arkansas- if so interesting
Snead at Ole Miss, I understand that Bama has QB from Texas too, bad enough that Texas QB's are playing for Kansas and Missu. The Horns play Arkansas next year and Ole Miss in the future.
Hookem-Horns
#1 coach in the Nation Mark Mangino--JMHO
Cowbell05 said:
posted on January 16, 2008 7:50 PM — 76.107.114.7 — link — abuse?
So we were predicted to go last in the west and we finish 3rd and win our bowl game, Sly wins the SEC COY, yet you have him as 10??? You have Petrino above him and he hasnt even played a game in the SEC yet.
What does he have to do to gain yalls respect?
Tomcat said:
posted on January 16, 2008 8:15 PM — 69.153.80.147 — link — abuse?
#64 WareagATL dont blame ya man givin your location, why not pull for the Yellowjackets.
If I lived in Ft Worth, I'd go to Frog games.
Now if I lived in Norman-Na Aint going to happen.
Stillwater maybe. Where's Lennie? He's from Mississippi lives in Austin Texas and pulls for OU Sooners. I'm from Texas, live in Texas and pull for Texas- Weird Huh ?
Hookem-Horns
P.S. did ya hook up Zac's lady witha ride?Bevo Boy said:
posted on January 16, 2008 8:30 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Well, Tomcat, it looks like you'll have to either call me Bevo (like most people) or Beav (Like TE and, uh, TE) now. Since Bama Babe is here BB might get kinda confusing.
Bama Babe, how 'bout Major Applewhite? Yeah, he's going back to Texas (all the drunks in the bar shoot their pistols just like in all the Western movies, then...) YEEHAW!!
Since you're new here, just know, I'm not a Texan, but like the football team, so that means that I can make fun of Texans (and OU fans, but they get kinda pissed).Tomcat said:
posted on January 16, 2008 8:44 PM — 69.153.80.147 — link — abuse?
Its all good Bevo Boy- From now on
BB- Bama Babe Hope she aint like coondawg1
Bama only lost one game during their NC 64 year
Texas beat Bama and ol Joe Namath
Adios Tomcat
BTW my 45 Colt is at the house Bevo
dont beleive all the stereotypical BS bout us
I drive a pickup & wear boots though
Adios TomcatFootball_Atlas said:
posted on January 16, 2008 10:09 PM — 76.171.234.254 — link — abuse?
As a long time Tennessee fan (going back about 25 years) I can tell you unequivocally that Phil Fulmer needs to be near or at the bottom of this list. One thing you can count on for sure on any given Saturday is that Fulmer will be soundly out-coached by the likes of Spurrier, Saban, Meyer or Miles. His team is often unprepared for games and he makes lousy half-time adjustments.
As far as the BCS championship goes, as much as I loved it, this man's coaching ability had little to do with it. The Vols simply had crazy talent that year. That might speak well to the man's recruiting talent, but then I'd have to overlook the last 5 or so years. Tennessee gets some talent simply by osmosis, but they should have much more than they have had the past few seasons. The once vaunted Tennessee runnning game has been gutted. Now they don't even have any proper receivers.
I am squarely in the "fire him at all costs" camp.
Bama Babe said:
posted on January 16, 2008 11:13 PM — 72.148.124.60 — link — abuse?
Tigerman:
I've followed the blogs for a little while, but yes, first time posting.
Actually, I wouldn't say Saban was top 3 because the only thing he has proven himself of so far is recruiting. So yeah, in a year or two,, hopefully top 3. I agree on the quarterback situation. I'm definitely excited about Star Jackson. He'll bring a quarterback style Bama hasn't seen in a while.Bevo- I'm not sure what to think about the major applewhite situation yet. I guess it depends on his successor. I do have one thing to say about Texas though. (AUTigerman and WEA should agree) Can they not go to another state to get their coaches?!? Muschamp from auburn and now applewhite from bama..in the same year. Not to mention Chizik(sp?) from auburn a few years back.) I mean does Brown not have any other stepsons or something to recruit as coaches? Just a thought. :)
Autigerman said:
posted on January 17, 2008 8:12 AM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?
I know that some would say i was crazy but no way i rank Urban Meyer #3.
To me he seems like hes lost out there. A little kid in a big toy store with a hundred dollar bill. Hes got as much talent as anyone in the nation.Yet he will continue to run his quarterback and risk his health.
I thought he was flat out coached in several games this year. He dosent know how to utilize his offence except for allowing Tebow to run.
Teams with great linebackers will beat Florida 75% of the time.
Sure he has coached a Ron Zook recruited team to a national title but because Leak wasnt able to run like Tebow they were forced to use more of their offence. And that defense was outstanding.
I predict the gator nation will have had enough of Mr. Meyer in about 3 years.
Zac said:
posted on January 17, 2008 11:57 AM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
Tomcat (Post 77), “…did ya hook up Zac's lady witha ride…”
Now, maybe it’s just my I-tal-yun imagination at work, but it seems to me that could be taken more than one way. Of course, knowing you, it was only meant one way.
Bama Babe, welcome to the site. As that bastage, I mean my colleague, Tomcat, has eluded to, I have a lady; therefore, I canna flerrt with thee. However, despite my age, I’m still good for a back-yard mud bowl, so name the time and the place. We’ll even come up with a couple of zebras to rag on for bad calls.
My opinion on Fulmer: Where he should be ranked is arguable. The success he’s brought to his teams is unarguable. I just don’t see how individuals can easily dismiss a coach who consistently produces 8, 9, and 10 win seasons to compliment an occasional NC. I don’t care who he is. A coach can only do so much. A team still has to execute its plays. Besides, anyone who looks like Fred Thompson can’t be all bad.
posted on January 17, 2008 1:12 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Through a little research, I found out the true identity of Bama Babe. You have to watch the whole clip though. Bama Babe was so sloshed from meeting Saban, she got a DUI on the way home...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AD1Gxrl4tLs&feature=related
Zac: I think Tomcat drives a horse to work, but it will fit a passenger, I believe...
gatorstud said:
posted on January 17, 2008 1:38 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
autigerman..#85....it is so easy for people who don't know anything about florida, except when they watch sportcenter, to jump on the "meyer is the problem bandwagon".....
in the auburn and lsu games ...those two games could of gone either way....but in the georgia and michigan games..offense wasn't the problem..it was defense..and the last time i check..meyer doesn't have tebow playing defense....when you lose to georgia 42-30 and mich. 41-35....that doesnt sound like an offensive problem to me..that is on charlie strongs defense.....now in the auburn and lsu games we only scored 17 on auburn and 24 on lsu..but seriously ....did anyone really expect those two conf. games to be high scoring.....i didn't.....
florida was #1 in scoring offense in the sec...so tell me where the problem lies in the offense..cause i just don't see it....florida was a young team last year...they should be much better this year....with the addition of two good running backs comng in..i think people are underestimating florida next year...
now in the michigan game...i thought that it seemed like the tebow-harvin show a little too much but it was a bowl game that meant nothing except for some kind of bragging rights or something.....but other than that....it meant nothing....
the only problem with meyers offense... is that the rest of the sec will have to deal with tebow and company for two more years.....and florida gator fans..definately don't see that as a problem......
jmho...
go gators.....
gatorstud said:
posted on January 17, 2008 2:08 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
autigerman...look ..... i'm not dogging your, post i am just sayin that you wont hear florida fans complaining......
and the whole.."well he did it with zooks recruits" bs......is so ridiculous....yeah he worked with zooks recruits..but hey, so did zook..and he couldn't get it done.....meyer still had to impliment plays and schemes and get the players to buy into it...to not give meyer credit for the national title would be a crime...and i am sure that 99.9% of gator fans will agree...
jmho...
go gators....
Tampa Hurricane
posted on January 17, 2008 2:15 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
gatorstud, I don't know how many Florida fans you are talking to, but around Tampa, I do hear many Florida fans/alumni complaining. The way that I hear a lot of Florida alumni and fans talk about Meyer reminds me a lot about the way I was talking about Coker after his second season. I'm not saying it is going to happen, but if Meyer knows what is best for him financially, he might want to just to the next high paying NFL job he is offered.
gatorstud said:
posted on January 17, 2008 2:55 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
t-hurricane....i actally have run into a few fans that don't like meyer..but those were personal opinions aand had nothing to do with football....but, i also remember when billy d. took florida to the national title game (basketball) against mich. state..and we go throttled....i heard a lot of gator fans repeadetly say that donovan was a kentucky person and didn't belong at florida and didn't deserve to be the coach at florida....and now after back to back titles...no-one was grumbling....
now i am not saying that meyer won't lay an egg at florida..but i just can't see it happening....there is too much talent that florida gobbles up for that program to be anything other than a title contender....and the way that colllege coaches have been violated in the nfl, i can't even imagine why meyer would want to test the waters there...it take a speicial coach to make that transition...jimmie johnson type...
next year will be a big year for meyer....and with the addition of hawaii and miami to the beginning of the season...it will be a test to get florida back to the title game....
jmho...go gators...
Autigerman said:
posted on January 17, 2008 3:14 PM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?
Gator
Just so you know,im an AU fan living in Florida,surrounded by Gator fans.
I had to liten to them dog us for a lucky win last year and hear them complain this year about Urbin Meyers play calling.
All im saying is that the fans (you included) wont put up with 9-4 8-4 seasons for long just ask Zook. And if he dosent figure out some way to keep his quarterback from getting hurt he will never last.
Tebow is a great player noone will argue that. But when its 3rd and goal from the 2 hand the ball off. Why risk your best player. He hasnt a lick of since when he does that if you ask me.
Only lucky that he didnt break his hand earlier in the year.
BTW im from Danny Wuerfels home town. Followed him all through high school and college.
Then again Tebow could go two more years and never miss a snap but its playing with fire if you ask me.
Guess we will just have to wait and see. But just to let you know there are plenty of rumblings around this part of Florida.
Zac said:
posted on January 17, 2008 3:23 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
Tampa Hurricane, I won't argue with what you've heard from FL fans in your area. I will say I don't agree them. Meyer has proven himself; he's not backing off, regarding his personal work ethics or the expectations he has of his players and staff. Yes, the MI game was winnable, and arguably FL should have won it, but that argument could just as easily be applied to MI, who, again I say, was much better than their loss to Appy St indicated.
Besides, a lot of us were saying FL would be as low as 4th in the SEC East. Even Gator Hippy has posted opinions indicating they'd need at least another year. The point is you don't take a coach with proven success and send him packing. I could understand if ND fired Weiss, but leting Meyer go makes no sense.
Like it or not, even for the best teams, there will be “down” years; like it or not there will be games, even entire seasons when a team under achieves. Fans have to learn to take the good with the bad, not to mention be patient sometimes. If Meyer goes elsewhere, it could be some time before FL will do anywhere near as well as they have since his arrival. Just my opinion.
gatorstud said:
posted on January 17, 2008 3:31 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
autigerman...i am a realist.....and if gator fans are dogging you about lucky wins..then remind them of the south carolina game last year...if it weren't for a block field goal..we wouldn't of been in the title game...you need to be a little lucky to get through the sec schedeule....just ask "les-ticles"....there are too many little factors that go into winning or losing a game...dropped balls at the worst time...fumbles..interceptions....missed tackles...blown assignments.....it is not always bout the coach....players must be able to take the blame for losing games also.....
ah yes...."BIG DANNY W."......what a special person...will go down as one of my all-time favorite gators...i really don't think anyone could say anything negative about him..just an all around classy guy..and for the work he has done in louisianna...trutly inspiring to say the least.........
and it looks like tebow is "cut from the same cloth".....hopefully we can win one more title with him at the helm.....if not..i will be happy with what he has given us already....
go gators.....
gatorhippy
posted on January 17, 2008 3:39 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
Zac (#95):
Too true, Zac...
Is a MNC possible for UF next season?
Yes...
Probable?
No...
I really think the defense is going to need another year to reach that "championship" quality needed to get there for Meyer and company...
More than likely UF is looking at a 1 to 3 loss season next year...
JMHO...
gatorstud said:
posted on January 17, 2008 4:18 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
g-hippy....couldn't agree w/ you more....people are so caught up on offense..but our defense last year was horrible....florida has always had good defensive units dating back to the days of jarvis williams and louis oliver....charlie strongs defense needs to step up..youth was a problem this past year but that excuse will not hold water for the upcoming years..florida has the offensive weaponry...but DEFENSE wins championships.....you have to stop the other team from scoring...otherwise....we will just be another hawaii...having to outscore opponents to win.....
jmho...
go gators....
gatorhippy
posted on January 17, 2008 4:30 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
G-Stud (#101):
Actually there was an interesting post on that very subject over at Saurian Sagacity
with a follow up to that article posted today...
Very interesting reading and solidifies (at least in my eyes as it is all debatable) that this was in fact the WORST defense in the history of the UF program...
Yes, even worse than the 1979 squad that went 0-10-1...
posted on January 17, 2008 5:42 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Bama Babe: Hey, any woman who takes a cute mugshot like that is ok in my book!
Anyway, welcome to the forum. There are quite a few other Bammers in here who are good guys. Just don't drop the Bama has 12 national championships line and you'll be fine.
Bama Babe said:
posted on January 17, 2008 5:59 PM — 70.146.196.234 — link — abuse?
Haha. Thanks for the heads up. But you don't have to worry about that.
I know most of yall think ALL Alabama fans live in the past, but that is certainly not true. Although I do take pride in Bama's successful past, I surely wouldn't say that to you or any other Aub...seeing that the big fat number 6 would get thrown back in my face!
But it's all good. ;)
posted on January 17, 2008 6:17 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
No, Bama Babe, you miss my point. We don't usually have any childish bickering on here about "How many national titles has Auburn won" with "We've beat you six straight" retorts. We let the Texas-Oklahoma guys do all that... (just kidding, guys!)
And there's nothing wrong with so-called Leather Helmet History, details of your team going back through the ages. If it happened, then it counts. People who only want to look at certain time periods are revisionists who are only attempting to promulgate their own narrow agendas.
It's great that we've beat you 6 times in a row, but the only numbers that mean anything to me are 33-38-1, our all-time record against you. I want to see us go ahead of you before I die. I predicted long ago that we would do it by 2028...
You can call us Albarns--it's okay. You guys are Bammers, or in your case, Bammerettes. It's really a term of endearment...
Tomcat said:
posted on January 17, 2008 6:30 PM — 69.153.80.147 — link — abuse?
#80 Porky- your right The Hogs, That Arkansas team had a lasting effect on football. Barry Switzer, Jerry Jones, Ken Hatfeild and Jimmy Johnson all played for the Hogs during the same approx time. That Hog team was undefeated and beat the Longhorns that year. That was when they announced the Champ prior to the Bowls.
The Hogs come into Austin next year
Hookem-HornsOU-Ron
posted on January 17, 2008 6:56 PM — 68.12.216.68 — link — abuse? said:
WEA, are you trying to say that Auburn has won more NC's than texas and OU, I think you're trying to get an argument started....oh well, thats ok, I'm really not in the mood to argue tonight....I wouldn't want to give Bama Babe the wrong impression..
Cowbell05 said:
posted on January 17, 2008 8:05 PM — 76.107.114.7 — link — abuse?
Bama Babe,
Ha yeah, you say that now but wait until the 08 season starts, j/k WEA
But for real I'm just glad Hotty Toddy is the only ole miss fan on here, i think we get along pretty well despite an argument or two, but I haven't seen him on here in a while, anyways,
Hail State
Tomcat said:
posted on January 17, 2008 8:33 PM — 69.153.80.147 — link — abuse?
Hey Bama Babe Seen your video-cool. You'll find some heated arguements on here and some drive by posters as well. Welcome aboard and the Bama vs AU rivalry doesnt compare with the sick & twisted rivalry of Texas vs OU. Heck everybody knows that OU sux.
OU Ron, OU Fan and even Lennie are enjoyable folks, they know when to jump in.We all enjoy this thing and to tell the truth gatorhippy is right about Kev being a Nole fan. Heck most of the entertaining rederick comes from fans outside of Fla- even though the Canes, Noles & Gators fans would want you to think that CFB hardly exist outside of the sunshine state.
Shout out to coondawg1,IrishJT and SoCal
Hookem-Horns welcome back #11
P.S. I do not even own a horse even though there is a stock trailer parked in front of my house
I prefer Pickups, motorcycles, tractors etc.etc.Bama Babe said:
posted on January 17, 2008 11:39 PM — 72.148.124.60 — link — abuse?
Autigerman:
I get that a lot. (except the wrong team thing ;) )
But yes, I love the game of football and every aspect of it.
In the fall, I'm pretty much one of the guys. Although, I might add, I'm a very girly 'guy.' :)The Mayor said:
posted on January 18, 2008 1:46 AM — 67.174.219.112 — link — abuse?
I haven't commented much this year on SECrulesfanblogs.com (formerly fanblogs.com)...this thread is another an example of the reason why I have lost interest in this site. SEC blah blah blah....
124 comments in 4 days on SEC coaches, come on!
Can't wait for the thread on the upcoming uniform changes at Oregon and how it will become an SEC vs Pac-10 rant of some sort.
It's ski season for me, the rest of you guys, get out of the house and smell the fresh air. Seasons over man, wormer dropped the big one.
gatorstud said:
posted on January 18, 2008 7:55 AM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
hey mayor...you posted on a "ranking the sec coaches" blog..but your post had nothing to do with the coaching at all....
so i have to agree w/ cowbell05.....why post man.....what do you want us to talk about..the presidential race....brittney spears...or maybe we could talk about the depressing war..or crime in our country.....NO THANKS.....
i choose, like others, to come on here to talk about my love for my gators, college football, argue a little, and might learn something new about college football from others......cause in about seven more hours i am gonna have to pick up two kids from school and be super-dad again, chef, teacher, and bed time storie teller....so please don't take away my football....
hey burnt orange..how did it go last night...catch anyone famous last night....i have a good freind in the law enforcement community (county sheriff)..tough job.....keep up the good work & stay safe......
go gators....
posted on January 18, 2008 8:03 AM — link — abuse? said:
@The Mayor. Enjoy the slopes. We'll still be glued to the computer talking about coaching changes, schedules, recruiting, spring games, depth charts, arrests, violations, and the usual banter. The good news is we'll be here when you get back.
Tomcat said:
posted on January 18, 2008 8:16 AM — 69.153.80.147 — link — abuse?
Mr Mayor Ducks uniforms change so often that it no longer a topic. Coach Applewhite back to UT from Bama now thats a topic. 8,353 passing yds
60 touchdowns. single season passing 3,357 yds
Folks around here are happy about it and folks round Bama dont really understand that Saban had the young mans hands tied to a certain degree.
Hookem-Horns
gatorhippy Where am I ?Autigerman said:
posted on January 18, 2008 9:48 AM — 129.61.46.60 — link — abuse?
Mayor
Just one more hit and run before the dry season?.
People like you crack me up.
You said "124 comments in 4 days on SEC coaches, come on!" but if you only read what your commenting on you would find that post 123 was me trying to score some points with the Bama Babe.
Well it is a long off season.
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 18, 2008 11:06 AM — 76.182.205.22 — link — abuse? said:
@#128 Hey gatorstud unfortunately no one famous mostly just young kids and rich a$$holes who always think they can weasel their way out of tickets. We can't wait for when the Super Bowl comes down here to Dallas at the new Cowboys Stadium that will be fun pickings. I have stopped Roy Williams before prett nice guy for being a Boomer. But ill try to stay safe and tell your buddy he's doing a hell of a job as well.
posted on January 18, 2008 12:44 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Ron: No, I wasn't talking about NCs, I was talking about childish bickering... :-)
Bama Babe lives in LA--lower Alabama. Any local could tell you that...
Mayor: Can't blame you for being bitter. If Dixon hadn't been injured, imagine the possibilities...
Zac said:
posted on January 18, 2008 1:17 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
The Mayor, I don't care what you discuss, welcome back. I am curious as to your opinion regarding the Rich Rodriguez/WVU debacle. What's even more amusing is I've come across sympathetic MI fans and unsympathetic OSU fans. Go figure.
Bamma Babe, Rock ON!!! Just don't expect me to root for the Tide.
WarEagleA..., interesting clip; she is cute, even when she's drunk. Ever since Rich Rodriguez left Morgantown, I've been trying to figure out how to stir the pot as a prelude to next year's Auburn/WVU game. A while back, when rumors flew of Tuberville leaving for TX A&M, I commented upon his obvious fear of Rich Rodriguez and next year's game. Seems I was wrong; it was Rodriguez who was scared of Tuberville, and had to run to the safety of a team with a good record against the SEC. Give me time; I'll think of something.
GatorHippy, Where's Waldo???
posted on January 18, 2008 2:58 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Zac: I see that you are an AOLhole, too, from your IP address--same as mine.
You know, not much pot to stir when two teams have never met. I really like the fact that this upcoming season will be the third in a row where we have played a BCS conference school for the very first time. Makes it kinda exciting.
There were rumors that both schools might be interested in moving the game back later in the season rather than early. Might benefit both of us, actually. Maybe ESPN might pick it up, since they love televising us so much.
Yea, the girl in that video wouldn't be so bad, if only she could keep her mouth shut...
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gatorstud said:
posted on January 14, 2008 11:43 AM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?i really do not have a problem with this list ....and i will probably catch hell from dawg fans for what i am about to say, but..oh well..
until georgia can beat florida more than one year on a row, excuse me if i choose not to believe tha georgia is "POISED" to win it all next year....
nothing against richt....but it ain't gonna happen.....
and why is petrino at #8 ???????....syl. croom should be ahead of him....
go gators.....