July 23, 2004
UT Concerned About Fulmer's Safety at Media Day
Tennessee Athletic Director Mike Hamilton has had a discussion with SEC Commissioner Mike Slive's office about ways to protect Volunteer Head Coach Phil Fulmer from Crimson Tide fans at SEC Media Days at the Wynfrey Hotel in Birmingham.
Fulmer and two UT players are scheduled to appear next Thursday immediately after Alabama Head Coach Mike Shula and two of his players. Vol officials are concerned that fans gathered in the lobby might pose a threat to Fulmer because of his involvement in aiding the NCAA's investigation of recruiting violations at Bama.
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TigerEducated says:
posted on July 23, 2004 01:01 AM — linkI'm sorry, but any fan that would physically harm another team's coach is a Fruit Loop...
Are we sure that Tennessee and Alabama aren't in Orange County, California? I mean, this is 90210 type stuff...
Alabama is just idiotic, and so is Tennessee...This all stems from the cesspool that Memphis high school football recruiting has become...
If you avoid Memphis, you avoid the problems...and if you ask me, they need to hand out Valiums and Zanax at Bryant Denny and Neyland this fall...
This is like a bad dream...
Pete Holiday says:
posted on July 23, 2004 12:37 PM — linkI'm not sure what's less surprising/more ironic here... an LSU fan griping about Alabama and Tennessee fans or Tennessee making something out of nothing.
I haven't heard of a single legitimate threat (if there were the police could already be involved) and it sounds much more like Fulmer is just trying to keep 'Bama fans out of the press conference.
Kevin Donahue says:
posted on July 24, 2004 10:11 AM — linkIt's not like any 'Bama fans have a history of going off or anything.
Pete Holiday says:
posted on July 24, 2004 06:32 PM — linkI'd hardly call one fan a "history" -- It's a smear campaign to fool the dim-witted into thinking there's a real threat.
Apparently it's working. ;)
TigerEducated says:
posted on July 27, 2004 10:29 PM — linkPete...Like we don't all know that Krispy Kreme Phat Phil Fulmer is just avoiding those Bama 'Lawyuhs who want to serve him to get a deposition in the lawsuits filed against him and NCAA...Including one by a player for Bama who found out that that Human Catfish of a bottomfeeder of a man "alleged" in testimony in front of a grand jury and the NCAA that his mother was "involved" in an intimate manner with an asisstant coach in order to attract the boy to Bama...
I mean...Come on!
Tennessee's own fans on our board are claiming that those in the know are admitting that his hands have as much blood on them in Memphis as Teddy Kennedy's in Chappaquidick (sp?)...
By that admission, it seems to me that the Vols program needs to come as close to humanly possible to SMU'ism.
If you're guilty, I don't care who you rat out, you should pay a penalty...and if Tennessee doesn't, then Fulmer not only comes off as a tattle-tailer, no matter how right he was, but as a yellow bellied coward, pure and simple...
It does the SEC no favors, either, as two premier programs like this are sniping at each other akin to somethin out of a pre "no fight" Springer (Oh, how I wish for those nights from 1:00am-2:00am each evening when I was in college at the Ole War Skule, bantering with friends over the potential pugilistic exploits of those guests of his...) determined to drag the other down with them the further they fall into the muck and mud...
Fulmer has done wrong, and he knows it, and he's not just fearful of all the cameras in Birmingham...Tennessee's on a death watch...Book it.
jessi says:
posted on July 27, 2004 11:20 PM — linktennessee has been HATED on for years, and it pisses me off that everybody is jumping on bama's bandwagon. tennessee has a pretty clear record and people are chomping at the bit to bring them down. i believe bama's record is more of a reference on how they run things down there.
Nate says:
posted on July 28, 2004 02:53 PM — link'Bama has made alot of bad choices in the past 7 years, that is true. That doesnt mean that this program is not still Elite in the SEC. They let the gool ole' boys (boosters) run the whole thing for a while and look whats happens when that goes on. Its corrected now and 'Bama should and will represent the SEC in the best fashion now under Mike Shula and new President Robert Witt. Let 'Bama correct their mistakes and get back to why the SEC is so dominating in the first place(a big reason...Alabama).
Pete Holiday says:
posted on July 28, 2004 03:53 PM — linkOh yeah, Jessi... everyone is just JUMPING on 'Bama's bandwagon now! You can see it by the DROVES of people who are saying 'Bama did nothing wrong!
...wait, what's that? Nobody's saying that?
Oh. Right.
Fact of the matter is that either UT, the NCAA, and Fulmer did something wrong, or they didn't. It doesn't bode well for them that they're trying to put up roadblocks to keep the case from progressing.
I'm going to feel bad for UT, at least a little bit, when the NCAA hangs them out to dry. Those folks have no allegiances, least of all to an SEC team, and the MINUTE it looks like it's headed down the crapper the NCAA is going to go Benedict Arnold on Tennessee and it WON'T be pretty. Sure, they'll sacrifice some of their own, like Johanningmeier and company, but the organization as a whole will go into serious CYA mode.
Nate says:
posted on July 28, 2004 04:14 PM — linkPete, who are you against? I cant tell. Same song: 3rd verse. Logan Young(UA booster who was disassociated) is supposed to have been given
the rest of the NCAA documents. The main document they wanted
was Lynn Lang's(Albert Means' High School Coach) interviews. Guess what? It's not in there? It does
not matter that the judge gave the order, they(NCAA) still think they
can do anything.No tapes, no interviews, no transcripts,. If you were 8 years
old this would be a great game of hide and seek. What are they
Hiding?????????? most importantly...WHY?jessi says:
posted on July 28, 2004 05:23 PM — linkno comment pete. im sickened at my stomach of your silly predictions.
Pete Holiday says:
posted on July 28, 2004 10:04 PM — linkI'm a student at UA -- also a future law school student, so I certainly think this one deserves its day in court. I just get a bit miffed by folks who say that people are "jumping on Alabama's bandwagon" by hoping that this whole scenario is finished judiciously.
Not a single thing that's happened so far makes UT look like some innocent school being "picked on" by those big, mean lawyers from Alabama. It's also worth pointing out that it's the individuals that were (allegedly) harmed that are seeking court cases, NOT the University. Throughout this whole mess, UA has admitted to the violations it was party to and the primary complaint has been the NCAA's handling of the situation (poor, at best) and sanctions handed down (ridiculously high).
nate says:
posted on July 29, 2004 10:10 AM — linkI agree. Who is jumping on Bama's bandwagon?? I hope UT gets their day in court and this time I hope they get punished for the things they do wrong. Academic fraud, drug use, documents that prove that players(Tee Martin)were paid at UT. They have become the Alabama of the 60's and 70's(with regards to being untouched by the NCAA). I dont believe that really, but thats the majority thought back then from what I hear. They still keep employing this coach and I bet you he is gone at the end of this year. Too many lawsuits and eveidence keeps rising to their disadvantage.
Pete Holiday says:
posted on July 29, 2004 04:08 PM — linkOh, actually ON TOPIC for this article, I find it interesting that Fulmer DID NOT cite safety concerns as the reason why he opted to stay home in Knoxville.
