November 14, 2007
Gamecock fans turning on OBC?
When Steve Spurrier was announced as the new head coach at the University of South Carolina, it was as if the right hand of God Almighty reached down to Columbia and annointed the Gamecocks as the SEC's team of tomorrow. (Well, at least the stadium lights were on that night.)
Just one month after USC was ranked as the #6 team in the country, however, South Carolina did not receive a single vote - not one vote - in the polls in the wake of four straight losses.
Fans are starting to wonder if the clock has struck midnight in Columbia.
During the Vandy game, Spurrier's first ever loss to the Commodores, Gamecock fans began booing the team and continued throughout the late portions of the game.
Some fans are seeking solace on the message boards - blasting Spurrier and the entire coaching staff.
Some fans are beginning to question if the Old Ball Coach was a good hire at USC.
Some question whether Steve Spurrier’s offense can operate effectively in an age of zone blitzes and disguised defenses. Others wonder if maybe Lee Corso was correct in saying that Spurrier can’t win championships at USC. Still others question whether Spurrier realized just how difficult a challenge he faced in coming to USC.
Spurrier has dismissed the criticism, attributing the questions about his team to the recent poor performances.
Of all the blows Spurrier and USC are taking, there is one that is below the belt. Some are wondering if Spurrier’s program has not advanced as far in three seasons as his predecessor’s program did after three years.The previous head coach concluded his third season at USC by winning nine games and a second consecutive Outback Bowl victory against Ohio State.
Ron Morris defends the OBC in The State, saying that Spurrier is not building the "house of cards" that Holtz constructed, but a foundation that will win more than just Outback Bowl games in Columbia.
A seven-win and eight-win season and a couple of bowl games had much to do with outstanding coaching in Spurrier’s first two years. Eventually though, Spurrier needs the same level of talent as his SEC opponents to compete for championships.Spurrier’s first recruiting class was a bust, which was no surprise. His second class was solid and his third class was considered among the 10 best in the country. It will take a couple more outstanding recruiting classes for Spurrier to have USC among the SEC elite.
Spurrier concedes that he is still building at USC.
"Hopefully, some day we'll win big," Spurrier said. "Hopefully, our fans will understand how our recruiting has gone the last two years and what was left here. ... The criticism? We deserve that. I just hope everybody hangs in there."
But there are rumors that Spurrier himself might be the one who doesn't 'hang in there'.
With talk of Les Miles to Michigan heating up again, there are rumors (and even a few sources) who say that contacts from LSU and people close to Spurrier have been discussing the possibility of him leaving South Carolina to coach the Tigers.
Just my two cents here, but... I think the fans at South Carolina need to shut the heck up. The Cocks have one hell of a coach on their hands and he is trying to build a program in Columbia. Not to call "scoreboard", but I think the more vocal Spurrier bashers need to compare the number of rings on the OBC's hand to the number on their own.
Yes, it is disappointing to be near the top of the polls and then fall backwards. I think a little perspective is needed, however, as many people never felt confident with USC's lofty ranking in the first place. The words "paper tiger" come to mind. A more realistic perspective just might be that the Cocks were over-rated in the first place, so there's no shame at all in falling back.
Steve Spurrier knows what he's doing and he knows what he needs to be successful. One of the most critical elements is support for the team. If he's not getting it at USC, then it will be difficult for him to take the Gamecocks to the top of the mountain year-in and year-out.
And if he doesn't get support in Columbia, you certainly get the impression that the grass would be much greener in Baton Rouge.
Comments:
Tom Blogical
posted on November 14, 2007 11:33 AM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse?
said:
Didn't someone that comments here (TE?) say that if Miles left for Michigan, that LSU has a lock on Spurrier to replace him?
TE
posted on November 14, 2007 11:37 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
collegefootball...I'm thinking the same thing...
Spurrier at LSU would make the SEC Western Division perhaps THE toughest Division in college football, period.
If Tuberville stayed, or even if Petrino came in to replace him, you've got three former NFL head coaches, and two that have BCS Waterford Crystal in their past...
Talk about a Murderer's Row...
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on November 14, 2007 11:40 AM — 143.127.131.4 — link — abuse?
I used to think that Clemson had the worst fans* in all of college football, but I'm getting suspicious that there's something in the water in the state of South Carolina.
*In this case, by "worst fans" I mean the quickest to abandon their team or their coaches when things aren't going right. I remember Clemson fans were ready to run Coach Danny Ford out of town on a rail in 1982, one year after winning the NC.
posted on November 14, 2007 11:45 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
If there are any CFB fans out there who don't feel entitled, it's gotta be Duke's. I think Spurrier would retire rather than go back there, though. He doesn't have the same hunger anymore, IMHO.
I was unaware of grumblings in the Gator camp back during the turn of the century. I guess you could say that he was a victim of his own success by creating these fans who always wanted more? Hmmm.
gatorhippy
posted on November 14, 2007 11:54 AM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
On the other hand...
It's hilarious to see schools that received the harsh beatings that SOS laid upon them through out his tenure at UF, now covet him so intensely...
It's amazing how a man people so love to hate becomes so attractive when the prospect of him doing it FOR you rather than TO you is proposed...
gatorstud said:
posted on November 14, 2007 12:35 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
i hate addressing the 2001 season.....we were supposed to play tennessee in our third game, like always.......tennessee wasn't playing well to start the season..and right before we were supposed to play them...911 happened....which moved the fla-tenn. game to the end of the season......tennessee started playing well and by the time we met them...they were at full strength......and they beat us.....i know that if we would of played them earlier...we would of beat them......
but oh well, that was then..this is now......i
i think spurrier needs to get out of the sec...and go to the pac ten....lol
go gators...and hokies
posted on November 14, 2007 1:12 PM — link — abuse? said:
Something I don't get about South Carolina fans -- what the hell have they ever done to be so damn arrogant?? You cane understand our Cane friends and their handful of rings, but... damn.
The only analogy I can think of is... some fat dude telling his supermodel girlfriend that she needs to "tone". Damn. Just chill out, USC fans, before you get dumped.
gatorhippy
posted on November 14, 2007 2:13 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
K-Hue (#13):
I agree and that exact reason is why I wouldn't see him going to LSU if he was to leave the Cocks stiff...
At LSU, the expectation would be of a divisional championship EVERY year and any year that a SEC CG trip was not acheived would be considered a failure by LSU fan standards...
Whenever the Tigers lost, the grumblings would be heard very LOUDLY as we all have experienced this season exactly how outspoken Tiger fans can be...
I think one of the reasons the OBC chose Columbia in the first place was that he felt it would be a place where they would accept small "moral" victories until he could get the type of players he needed to begin a serious annual contention for the top spot in the East...
I don't think SOS is the problem in Columbia...
I posted long ago on a SC thread here at fanblogs that if the school, alumni and boosters didn't pony up cash for facility improvements and put the proper support in place that the Visor would bolt...
IT's too bad that SCers don't seem to get it...
Tom Blogical
posted on November 14, 2007 2:23 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
K-Hue (#13):
"The only analogy I can think of is... some fat dude telling his supermodel girlfriend that she needs to "tone". Damn."
LMAO!! That's the funniest thing I've read all week!
TE (#4):
Didn't you say that Spurrier was a lock to come to LSU if Miles left, or am I thinking of someone else? Is this tidbit garbage or is there something to it?
Tom Blogical
posted on November 14, 2007 2:33 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
I should've been more specific--I know there are rumors that Spurrier could possibly leave--but a lock to leave? As in, a done deal in the event Miles goes?
Not trying to be annoying or picky here, but there is a big difference in my mind between "possibly" and "lock".
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on November 14, 2007 2:51 PM — 143.127.131.4 — link — abuse?
My own "spidey sense" tells me that Miles is a lock to go to Ann Arbor if Carr leaves, but I don't see SOS (a.k.a. HBC or OBC) going to Baton Rogue. That would be moving from the frying pan to the pressure cooker for him and he seems more likely to move in the other direction or stay put (IMO).
He might get fed up with USC fans and their over-inflated sense of entitlement, but I honestly think he will still be in Columbia this time next year.
posted on November 14, 2007 3:13 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Gatorhippy: Any outspoken LSU fans in particular to which you are referring?
Yea, it does seem that Gamecock fans are perhaps a bit undeserving of the services of SOS.
I'm bored with all this Spurrier talk. Let's go back to who's going to replace Tuberville at Auburn. How 'bout a nice thread on that, Kevin?
TampaGator said:
posted on November 14, 2007 3:19 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Cocky bastards.
Ramblin Gator/#18: I agree.
Gatorstud/#11 (and Gatorhippy/#1):
To add to your point re. '01--y'all forget the Darnell f$#%n dirty-ass Dockett scandal, which was VERY instrumental in the OBC's departure.
DFDAD (i.e. DD) twisted Earnest Graham's knee under pile, after play--rendering him injured for remainder of FSU game, and also through Tenn. game, which as G-stud pointed out, was moved to after FSU game, complements of al Queda (You better believe we would have spanked Tennessee in September, with Earnest Graham; we lost my a scant 2 points WITHOUT him, and he was the centerpiece of our offense that year).
E-Graham complianed to Coach Spurrier, who took his case public--and was publicly chastized for doing so (labled a whiner). He also felt betrayed because UF (Lombardi, et. al) didn't back his play (or have his back) in that deal .
Snyder giving him 25 million other reasons to jump ship, didn't help matters.
Add to all that the general feeling of instability, mortality, and stirred emotions that we were ALL left with after 9/11...
...then how and why Coach Spurrier left his beloved alma mater, starts to make a little sense.
As for South Carolina--it's really a shame to hear this; I was under the impression that Gamecock fans were some of the most loyal in CFB.
My $.02.
GO GATORS!!Mr2Bits said:
posted on November 14, 2007 4:27 PM — 66.89.151.21 — link — abuse?
@Tom- That was me. According to a Big shot booster I know, Spurrier is a "lock". We will see come years end!
@11 Gatorstud- I was at that game and remeber it as if it were yesterday. We were a Grossman 2 point conversion away from the NC that year.
TE
posted on November 14, 2007 4:37 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Tom,
I'm off for the day...but yes, that was me...
There's a lot more than smoke there, my friend...
If Miles' is gone, Spurrier's already expressed interest...On behalf of Jimmy Sexton (also Houston Nutt's, Nick Saban's, Tommy Tuberville's, and of course Spurriers agent)
Take it for what it's worth...
Spurrier's our first choice, and it wouldn't take megabucks to get him, either...
He's not happy with USC...at tall...
Stouds said:
posted on November 14, 2007 4:44 PM — 68.59.14.16 — link — abuse?
Ridiculous article in every sense. All those quotes are just pieced together to make the situation sound much worse than they are/were. Have not heard anybody question Spurrier from the SC side. The only grumblings coach wise are on the Defense and those are limited. Spurriers not going anywhere and nobody who is a SC fan wants him too.
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on November 14, 2007 5:08 PM — 138.163.0.44 — link — abuse?
GatorHippy,
@ #14...You'd like to think that I'm sure, but I think we have a different perception of the OBC. You see him as some humble pie eating coach who just wants to enjoy life. I see him as a coach that wants to do nothing more than win football games. You see it in his reactions when players make the smallest mistakes. He simply hates losing probably even more than the fans. He would gladly go to Baton Rouge be/c he knows he can win football games. The expectations are not out of the question.
gatorhippy
posted on November 14, 2007 6:28 PM — 70.121.185.56 — link — abuse? said:
EotT (#26):
Remember the LSU/Spurrier relationship could have started before he went to SoCar and Saban officially announced he'd be leaving for the NFL...
There was more than an inkling in the air that Saban would be leaving BR at some point in the very near future given that he had interviewed with the Bears in Jan of 2004...
The rumors had floated around since that initial meeting with reps from an NFL team...
LSU and Spurrier could have hooked it up then...Why would it be different now...
posted on November 14, 2007 7:34 PM — link — abuse? said:
@Cowbell05 - Spurrier could coach at Duke, but it couldn't be at his current salary. While Duke is a private school and privy to their own finances exclusively, but it's widely held that Duke cannot afford to pay north of $2 million in the football program without some additional cash influx.
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on November 14, 2007 7:47 PM — 68.107.110.254 — link — abuse?
GatorHippy,
I can only speculate at this point, but I'd say he had something to prove after an upsetting NFL career. Maybe he wanted to go somewhere where he could actually build a team up and not be looked at as Les Miles is now(successful coach w/ Saban's players). Anyway, I never saw this one coming, but when I think about it, it really doesn't sound far fetched.
Tom Blogical
posted on November 14, 2007 8:17 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
Mr2Bits & TE: (#22 & #23):
Interesting. I wonder if S.C. has considered the worst-case scenario and thought about who would replace the OBC.
Call me crazy, but I always viewed OBC's move to South Carolina as a "stepping stone" way to get back into CFB. Surely the folks at S.C. have thought about this scenario...no?
U. of S. C. 1978 said:
posted on November 14, 2007 10:15 PM — 97.82.188.250 — link — abuse?
Just a bunch of talking head generated bullshit. Mr. Spurrier rules as he desires. The U. of S.C. has some dumbass fans as does every program. Mr. Spurrier is large and in charge. Even our stupid fans are smart enough to know that the OBC knows more about motivating young guys than they do. Not to mention football. Injuries and young players introduced variables that staff never calculated as they and the players attempted to fulfill the OBC'S vision. We will be back in contention next year.
I feel the pain of all the pretenders who will not be back in contention next year.PNUT said:
posted on November 14, 2007 10:22 PM — 70.169.71.134 — link — abuse?
reegarldless of what les and lsu do this season, IF mich. comes calling... he's gone. no doubt about it. after that who knows. i just hope lsu isn't scared to actullay pony up and pay what it takes to get one hell of a coach here. you never know with ol skip bertman.
GameCock 4Life said:
posted on November 14, 2007 10:41 PM — 75.176.151.12 — link — abuse?
Spurrier isn't going anywhere. He is smart enough to not listen to any Internet coach or drunk fan on how to coach his team. His heart is in accomplishing something at SC that has NEVER been done. That includes an SEC Championship.
What could he do at LSU that hasn't been done? NOTHING!
Why is it that you Internet gods think that a few disgruntled fans speak for the entire fanbase? A few students booing the poor play of the players on the field does not equal ALL fans wanting to get rid of Spurrier. What the hell do they teach you guys in school?
Tom Blogical
posted on November 14, 2007 11:00 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
"What the hell do they teach you guys in school?"
With apologies to Jim Croce:
You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim (Tressel)And I also learned...where there is smoke, there is fire.
(:-D)
1st_and_NOLE
posted on November 14, 2007 11:15 PM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse? said:
This may not be the popular opinion but...
SS isn't getting any younger. He may just be losing his touch. Isn't he in his 60s? He's already peaked as a coach and is on the decline. It's extremely hard to rebuild (or build) a program at any point in your coaching career but especially in your 60s.
Spurrier is known for his offenses and QB play. Even with lesser (much, much lesser) talent (see Duke) he was able to rack up the yards and points and his QBs were efficient and deadly. At USC? Not so much. He's never had a successful offense at USC. For the most part, he defenses have carried the team. Now, I know USC doesn't have the greatest talent but it DOES have more then Duke.
Is this a sign of SS being on the decline?
Maybe so, maybe not.
My personal feeling is he probably doesn't have enough left in the tank to BUILD a program.
If he took over a program like LSU chalked full of talent and ready to roll... he'd probably be fine.
However, at USC with less talent, he has to out coach everyone and it's very possible his best coaching days are behind him.
T-Mac
posted on November 14, 2007 11:21 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse? said:
Gamecock 4 life, it's not about a fanbase brother.
It's about where a Coach can go and achieve success.
Success-SEC Champ, National Champ.
What Spurrier could do at LSU has absolutely NOTHING to do with what any other Coach has done.
When Spurrier goes to LSU it is about what he can accomplish there.
That's all.
South Carolina is a great school.
Let's face facts though.
With Florida, Georgia, and Tenn in the Eastern division it makes things very difficult.
Example, RECRUITING!!!!!!!
Without recruiting USC can't get it done brother.
That's just on the real dogg.
A 17 year old watching SEC FB doesn't remember the mid-90's fun-n-gun days of Florida-Coached Spurrier teams bro.
What a recruit sees now is South Carolina.
Not taking anything away from USC, but if you were a recruit outta HS, would you go play for Urban Meyer, Mark Richt, or Steve Spurrier?
T-Mac forgot about Fulmer who is actually a helluva recruiter!!!
T-Mac looks for LSU to offer OBC a yearly salary somewhere in the 3-3.5 mil range with incentives.
Gamecock, you can't turn that down dogg.
Just like with any job out there.
It's not personal, it's business!
At the same time, as a Coach you wanna go to a school where you can have the utmost success.
Imagine the Alabama/LSU games for the next 5-7 years with Saban/Spurrier!!!
PRICELESS!
On a sidenote, TE are you hearing rumblings about Franchione heading to USC???
T-Mac was curious.
*T-Mac will post when he can.
Eye of the Tiger said:
posted on November 15, 2007 2:29 AM — 68.107.110.254 — link — abuse?
1st,
I was starting to agree with your post, but then I remembered what USC was before SS got there, and where they are now. This year they were legit SEC contenders, and I think within a few years they would be NC contenders (if he stays).
T-Mac,
EOT agrees with that post!
sirbigspur said:
posted on November 15, 2007 7:53 AM — 167.7.17.3 — link — abuse?
I'm a student at USC. While many fans are dissappointed and upset over a 4 game losing streak and there's been some booing, there is not much loss of support for Steve Spurrier. Before the games, Steve Spurrier comes on the screen and makes the regular announcements. Everyone cheers.
The bottom line is that USC fans think that we will be contenders very soon, either next year or the year after that. I personally believe our time is next year, with Jasper Brinkley coming back along with almost every starter from defense and McKinley (hopefully) coming back with a lot of our offense as well. And I've heard this a lot this year: If Steve Spurrier can't get the job done here, then who can? The fans and supporters know he gives us our best opportunity.
GO COCKS!
GameCock 4Life said:
posted on November 15, 2007 9:13 AM — 74.223.76.124 — link — abuse?
Spurrier had the opportunity to go to Alabama for as much money as he wanted. He turned them down. Why would LSU be any better than Alabama for a coaching legend? If money wasn't the issue when he turned down ALabama last year, then why would it be an issue this year.
Spurrier's building the foundation at USC that will last long after he's gone (see Florida). He's going to do things that no other coach in our 100 year history was able to do. When he finally retires they are going to name the stadium after him (at least they should). In his third season he has us seeing how great programs are created from the ground up.
For all of the naysayers, our starting QB is NOT a Spurrier recruit. Spurrier probably would not have recruited him because he does not fit into his system. That's like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Next year you will start seeing the fruits of Spurrier's recruiting classes come to fruition. If we had a confident Spurrieresque QB we would be sitting closer to the top of the SEC East right about now. It also didn't help that we lost a lot of our defensive stars to injury this year.
I was not taking a shot at LSU in my last post. I just wanted to know what would Spurrier have to gain by coaching a team that has done it all before and will probably do it all again this year.
Please don't compare his Duke teams to the SEC of today. He was an innovator at Duke & Florida. Today's SEC has adapted to fast WRs & pocket passing QBs. His play calling & schemes make hiom a force to be reckoned with even today. We just don't have the personnel to makee it work consistently. But watch out, 'cause we're gettin there.
sirbigspur said:
posted on November 15, 2007 10:05 AM — 167.7.17.3 — link — abuse?
#41,
Simply stating that we will be even better next year. Far as I'm concerned, the season has just began with the Clemson game coming up next week. There's nothing wrong with looking towards the future. This conversation is about the future...duh!Clemson Joe said:
posted on November 15, 2007 10:13 AM — 165.166.31.249 — link — abuse?
#42.
Actually I thought this post was about the present situation of Carolina fans trying to throw Spurrier under the bus. Operative word here is "present". Although I live and work in and around Columbia, and am around Gamecock fans every day, I haven't heard any disdain for Spurrier at all. Having grown up in the Columbia area, I find it amazing how much arrogance some USC fans seem to have in such a short period of time. The future seems as if it could be promising, but still nothing to "write home about" yet. Reality checks can be a good thing. Maybe you'll get another one next Saturday.Recap: Post is about the "present" situation, not the "future". Duh.
GameCock 4Life said:
posted on November 15, 2007 10:13 AM — 74.223.76.124 — link — abuse?
T-Mac:
Read the title of the thread. It says its all about the fans.
Success at SC is about winning the SEC Championship, Spurrier said it himself.
#6 Recruiting class. Looks like that nullifies the recruiting knock.
I think that a lot of 17 year olds know who Steve Spurrier is or have heard about his accomplishments.
Money wasn’t a factor last year, so why should it be a factor this year?
Also, he’s the Evil Genius. He loves doing things they say can’t be done.
TampaGator said:
posted on November 15, 2007 10:18 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Where will Steve Spurrier be next year?
Seems we (CFB fans) get into this discussion every other year regardless of the circumstances.
I think we can all agree on this much--he's great for CFB.
Again though, my money is on the OBC staying in Colulmbia. He loves his golf, and Columbia has that itch scratched rather well (fyi: Ray Graves used golf to help recruit SOS out of HS, away from Bear Bryant, and a slew of other would be suitors).
...Baton Rouge? Kinda' hard to set a tee in that mushy, murky, bayou mess--and getting the ball out of the hole with all that 'baccy juice in it? Just nasty. :)
My $.02.
GO GATORS!!M GO BLUE said:
posted on November 15, 2007 10:35 AM — 216.46.208.227 — link — abuse?
Tom B "And you don't mess around with Jim (Tressel)".........You mean...CHEATYPANTSMcSWEATERVEST!!!!!!
I was rooting for the Buckeye's against illinois......can you believe it?....THE ONE TIME I ACTUALLY CHEER FOR THE BUCKEYE'S....THEY LOSE!
I have a question.......if we lose to OSU this week, we would be tied with illinois for conference losses....2.....but we would have one more overall loss.......but we beat illinois......so who would get the Cap one bowl???? illinois? or Michigan??
GameCock 4Life said:
posted on November 15, 2007 10:40 AM — 74.223.76.124 — link — abuse?
WIN AT DUKE. MAKE FLORIDA A POWERHOUSE FOTBALL TEAM.
Come on man. Pay attention. Before Spurrier went to Florida they did not have the history they have now. Winning at Duke...nuff said.
If he went to Clemson I think they would've won the ACC Championship more than they have in the past 16 years.
He's in the process of making USC consistant in winning and getting respect.
M GO BLUE said:
posted on November 15, 2007 10:47 AM — 216.46.208.227 — link — abuse?
I can't see it being the ol ball coaches fault that they are having a less than perfect season.....they are in America's greatest conference......I can't believe I said that..........Anyway they do play against some really good teams, and he has'nt had enough time to build his team.
If two or three years from now, they are still losing four or five a year.....that's the time to consider a new coach.
Clemson Joe said:
posted on November 15, 2007 10:54 AM — 165.166.31.249 — link — abuse?
#48
I was expecting you to say that. If winning at Duke was so difficult, why do they have 15 of their 16 conference championships prior to Spurrier's arrival. They weren't a great team before his arrival, but no one ever said that a 20-13-1 record at Duke couldn't be done.Spurrier certainly bettered the history at Florida, but they certainly were not a pushover program before his arrival. No one ever said that he couldn't win at Florida. Florida was 8-10 in their 18 bowl games prior to his arrival. Florida finished the 1985 season ranked #5 nationally in the AP poll prior to Spurrier's arrival in 1990. Obviously they didn't finish that great just before his arrival, or they wouldn't have been looking for a new coach.
Again, no one ever said he couldn't win 20 out of 34 games at Duke. No one ever said he couldn't win at Florida. He's a great coach, and I'm not taking that away from him, but I'm going to have to discredit your statement because it's wrong. Look at the facts. "Come on man. Pay attention."
Tom Blogical
posted on November 15, 2007 11:00 AM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
M GO BLUE (#49):
LOL!! So you're the reason they lost! Well, IF Michigan doesn't somehow pull it out at home, which I think they will, then I've got to think a head-to-head matchup favors them. Then again, they'd be 0-2 in their last 2 games and would've gotten beat at home by the same team Illinois just beat on the road...
Dilemma.
PNUT said:
posted on November 15, 2007 11:08 AM — 206.251.183.162 — link — abuse?
#45
Come on man. all of baton rouge is not a "mushy, murky, bayou mess". it's talk like that that makes everyone think we go to work and school on alligators and fan boats. that's like saying it would be hard to play golf in tenn., since every time you'd tee up, the ball would fall off because of all the mountains.TE
posted on November 15, 2007 11:10 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
GameCock4Life...
There's no shots you can take at LSU that wouldn't be deflected by the glint of the ADT Waterford Crystal Trophy that we have that you don't...
Or by the finality of the score in Baton Rouge earlier this year, for that matter.
Whether you like it or not...Spurrier contacted LSU, not the other way around, to express interest in coming here...
It has nothing to do with money, or Bama, either...
The situation at Bama is night and day compared to LSU. There is no rebuilding at LSU, only a matter of taking the reigns. We also have the greatest number of D-1 football prospects per capita population in America. We produce more prospects demographically speaking than any state in the union, and to further that point, Louisiana also produces more NFL talent on a per capita level based on population than any other state, as well. Sports Illustrated's "Sports Atlas" issue details this far better than I can, here.
LSU has no Auburn. It has no UAB. It has one of the best recruiting situations in America: Top talent with no real in-state rival to challenge for said talent, and a built-in natural tug to go play for the home team.
Look at the rosters in the SEC. Save for Florida, no other team has more home-grown talent than LSU.
Spurrier wanted this job back when Mike (F)Archer was hired, and he has already let us know he wants it again...
He's our first choice, but the first domino that sets off this chain reaction hasn't fallen yet...
This is all premature speculation, but rest assured...Spurrier'd be here in a heartbeat, and it wouldn't take 3.5 million...
T-Mac...I have heard NOTHING about Franchione to USC...They'd be silly to make that hire...
(Sorry if that was sarcasm...Just hard to believe it's true)
TE
posted on November 15, 2007 11:34 AM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
A crack at Baton Rouge being a swamp?
Gimme a break...
That's so weak it's not even decaf...It's a used filter of decaf...
I can run the bucket down to the bottom of my sarcasm well if you like, but methinks I'd have you up way past your bedtime, TampaGator...
On a more serious, less cynical note, what would Florida fans think about losing Spurrier from your Division, but still having to face him thanks to LSU being your permanent SEC West Opponent?
Just curious...This thing has so many different angles...
Stouds said:
posted on November 15, 2007 2:16 PM — 68.143.5.138 — link — abuse?
TE, you are a fool. Just take your entire #54 post and replace LSU with Bama, and it is exactly what we heard one year ago.
"Spurrier contacted Bama/LSU, not the other way around"Sure he did buddy, Hurricane & Tide fans said the same thing, even after Spurrier said he had not talked to anyone at the school.
So it is your honest opinion that SOS has been flat out lying for 3 years??? Seriously, is that what you think?
He doesn't want to "be somewhere that doesn't have a tradition of winning", "do something that hasn't been done before at SC", "win the first SEC championship at SC" etc, etc, etc.
Don't get me wrong I am honored you want our coach, but you will have to settle for something less, So sry.
TampaGator said:
posted on November 15, 2007 3:23 PM — 71.101.63.118 — link — abuse?
...but Stouds...
...he knows a guy who knows a guy...who knew a guy...that had a wet dream about Spurrier going to LSU; it must be true!
TE/#55:
Get over yourself; you ain't all that. And get over the bayou crack; it was just that--a crack (hence the smiley).
Re. Gators if Spurrier goes to LSU: we'd be LSU fans, save for our annual rendevous, and if/when LSU and UF played for Championship.
Make no mistake: UF loves Steve Spurrier. He is and always will be one of us. Gators will pull for him no matter where he goes, until the interests conflict with UF's; then all bets--and the gloves--are off.
Frankly, it'd be easier than pulling for the 'cocks, since our interests conflict until October--'er, until SC has been mathematically eliiminated from SEC East competition.
I still think it's a red herring though. Spurrier will probably stay at South Carolina for another couple of seasons.
My $.02.
GO GATORS!!
Stouds said:
posted on November 15, 2007 4:05 PM — 68.143.5.138 — link — abuse?
Gator: You obviously don't listen, it not the friend of a friend who had the wet dream, it was Spurrier himself who had the dream. Then he proceded to contanct all TE's friends and beg them if he could come coach at the mighty LSU. But I am sure when it is all said and done, they won't let Mr. Spurrier come, b/c they "found someone better" or "never really wanted him". Whatever happens I am sure there is no way that this is all just BS, where there is smoke there is fire right? Oh, yeah except for Bama, and Miami, and LSU, and _____________. What a joke.
TE
posted on November 15, 2007 4:12 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
I don't know anyone. It's all conjecture. Complete myth. Just flicking boogers onto the fiber optic wall here on Fanblogs, hoping to rile you all up...
I actually conjured it all up out of thin air, just before flicking on My Criss Angel: Mindfreak DVD Home Series, Episode # 7, entitled: How to Learn How to Look Like A Meth Addict Who Somehow Lands A Date With Cameron Diaz...
TampaGator...Keep in mind that cracks will be checked, at all times...No good deed goes unpunished, and no slights go unretorted...If you make them, have the good sense to realize I'll respond. Pretty simple, if you ask me...
Oh, and I'm not all that...Never said I was...Just compared myself to you...so, that was sort've a telling response...
Sort've...
GameCock 4Life said:
posted on November 15, 2007 4:18 PM — 74.223.76.124 — link — abuse?
Maybe we could get some Louisiana recruits by TE bragging how great Spurrier is and how wonderful it would be to play for him. Seems to have worked last year in our #6 recruiting class. Thanks guys! Appreciate that!
U. of S. C. 1978 said:
posted on November 15, 2007 9:19 PM — 97.82.188.250 — link — abuse?
It seems a few of you guys never knew or completely forgot that the Gamecocks schedule was ranked second toughest in the land by Rivals.com. Rivals was right.
It's all good though. This Gamecock does not expect miracles, nor do most other Gamecocks. To be respected and feared year after year, priceless.
Recurring incredible recruiting classes, the proven abilities of Mr. Spurrier..... Be afraid boys, stir up some gratuitous rumors, be very afraid.goodolnuma5 said:
posted on November 15, 2007 9:54 PM — 24.208.153.234 — link — abuse?
BTW,
Any good golf courses in La? Just a thought.Quick, name the last great Gamecock coach.....................................anyone?
A big name coach at your school keeps you relevant, especially when YOU HAVENT BEEN.
Anywhoo,
Fla, S. Cakalacky, now LSU? sounds very ho'-ish to me.U. of S. C. 1978 said:
posted on November 15, 2007 11:15 PM — 97.82.188.250 — link — abuse?
yada yada yada. But I will respond to post #64. The name of that coach is Spurrier, our first great coach. Many will attempt to live up to his legacy.
Absolutely, the Cocks have never been particularly relevant in the NC picture. But we do have the ohio s B eyes number. The B eyes have always been relevant, but never good enough to lick the Cocks.TampaGator said:
posted on November 16, 2007 1:29 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
TE:
I ain't doubting you do know someone; but I still think it's just a wet dream--'er, red herring.
The rumor hit Swamp Gas yesterday (maybe a couple of days ago). My guess is that the OBC probably slipped it out himself; it's good for bidniz: everyone talk'n 'bout him, and his glory days at UF...
...keeps him fresh on the minds of recruits--and detracts rather nicely from a painful 4 game skid.
I don't know anyone; just going on my instincts.
I get paid to do that.
GO GATORS!!U. of S. C. 1978 said:
posted on November 20, 2007 9:27 PM — 97.82.188.250 — link — abuse?
Thank you good ole Numa. Now, if a person wants an answer, they should go to the source and ask the question. Not start rumors and just gossip about the rumors. Someone asked the question of Mr. Spurrier, the following is his response.
Coach Spurrier also dismissed rumors circulating about his interest in other job opportunities. "We had a good (recruiting) class last year. As you know, they're all freshmen. Some are redshirting and some are playing. I think we're going to have another very good recruiting class. We believe we're going to be a lot better team than we are right now, in the future. That's how I believe. Hopefully that will come true." When asked if he would be there for the freshmen's tenure, Coach Spurrier said, "I certainly hope so. If we keep going like this, I may get fired before their tenure's over."
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gatorhippy
said:
posted on November 14, 2007 11:21 AM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse?Dead on, Kev...
The OBC doesn't take to kindly to fans grumbling about what he considers his business...
One of the chief reasons Spurrier left UF for the Redskins was because of the grumbling that started after the Gators missed a few SECCG shots before winning the conference title again in his last season at the Swamp...
He felt the expectations had become to steep to realistically be met season in, season out EVERY year...
Which without even winning their division once EVER, Cock fans have already begun pissing and moaning like they are entiteled to conference championships...
Two off seasons ago SOS was chiding the university and its alumni base over the sorry state of facilities and the lack of financial support from alumni...
HE seems to be getting what he needs but if the complaining keeps up, Steve will leave...
No doubt...
But I'm thinking a return trip to Duke rather than LSU for one simple reason...
The LSU fan base is already has the same entitlement issues Gator fans have and the Cocks seem to think they have...
Duke is a place where Steve is revered for his success there before and a place where he could have limited success witrhout the complaints from entitled fans...