July 6, 2006
Georgia Southern player dies after motorcycle accident
Georgia Southern receiver Teddy Craft was injured in a motorcycle accident in Statesboro on July 4th. He was hospitalized locally and then later airlifted to Savannah, where he died from his injuries. School officials say Craft was wearing a helmet.
Craft, who was 21, would have been a starter this fall. He was All-Southern Conference the past two seasons and led the team in touchdowns and receiving yards in 2005.
Comments:
Tampa Hurricane said:
posted on July 6, 2006 1:11 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
Gatorpilot that's a typical dumbass answer from you. It's not the motorcycle that is the problem, it is the riders that don't know what they are doing. All the recent major motorcycle (K2, Big Ben) accidents that have gotten press due to riders that are not properly trained on the motorcycles (neither had their licenses). I have been riding motorcycles since I was 15 (dirt bikes since 13) and have never had any problems because I know how to handle them. It's not the motorcycles that are the problems, it's the riders.
T-Mac said:
posted on July 7, 2006 10:00 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
Tampa Hurricane is 100% right on this motorcycle issue.Rider safety is everything.I learned to ride on a dirtbike for the first time than in 1999 took the MSF course.Got my license and been ridin since.2003Yamaha R6 Baby.I'm out.HOLLA
Gatorpilot said:
posted on July 8, 2006 8:16 AM — 72.154.129.94 — link — abuse?
No, Tampa Hurricane. It's not the rider. It is the motorcycle. At the end of the day, it's mass vs. mass. Riding a motorcycle, you're simply rolling the dice every time you hit the road.
I had a buddy who owned both a Hayabusa and a Yamaha R1. He loved to hit the street late at night and go tearing around town. He was good - really good. He was licensed, he had training, and he even raced the bikes. He eventually became a motorcycle instructor (started when he was 18, became an instructor at 23.) One night he hit the remnant of a burst tire from a rig. It was unavoidable - he couldn't react to it in time at the speeds he was going (which, luckily, was only around 70mph at the time.)
He got off lucky - lost some skin, broke both ankles and a wrist, and bruised his ribs. He was wearing a lot of protective gear. I gave him a hard time about his motorcycle habit but he continued.
About a year later he was on the highway during the daytime and a car in the adjacent lane "bumped" him, by way of changing lanes directly into his spot without seeing him. As a testimony to his skill, he managed to keep his balance and rode the bike into the median, where he kept control as he slowed down. As he decelerated through 20 miles per hour the bike hit one of those drainage berms which was hidden in tall grass and flung him about 25 feet. He landed in the grass, again with only minor injuries (bruises and cuts), or so it seemed. About a week later his back started stiffening up and began hurting. Within a month his back bothered him all the time. He started seeing a chiropracter but all he could get was a temporary reduction in the pain. That was three years ago and at that time he decided to finally give up his youthful habit. He will likely be in some form of pain or other for the rest of his life due to that second accident. He tells me that it was God's way of gently telling him to stop riding motorcycles. He also told me he wished he'd taken my warning before the second accident. He's a good guy so he doesn't need a "told you so," he already knows. "Told you so" sucks when somebody dies, or is paralyzed/crippled, or badly injured. When you ride motorcycles, you have an obscenely high chance of one of the above happening to you.
Stay off the damn things, Tampa Hurricane. Especially if you have family or friends who care about you. It doesn't matter how good of a rider you are when you're hit from behind by a driver that didn't "see" you, or you run over some road debris which was hidden by the line of cars in front of you. You're truly playing an awful form of Russian Roulette every time you ride one of those infernal things.
I sense that you're a young fella and I certainly understand your addiction to the excitement and adrenaline rush that riding a motorcycle can offer. Luckily there are other activities which are much safer which can provide the same feeling. As you get older and you have people counting on you to feed them, you might eventually come around to my point of view. Or it could happen the hard way. But I hope not.
Good luck to you.
-Gatorpilot
T-Mac said:
posted on July 9, 2006 2:38 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
Gatorpilot,I'm very glad your friend is alright.There is nothing like that feeling when you roll the throttle and lay on the gas tank doing 110-120 on a backroad staightaway!It really reminds you that you are ALIVE in the sense of the RUSH!My motorcycle is always there.Never doesn't feel good or never has a headache.Tampa Hurricane being a fellow rider I'm sure you understand that we are not ready to sit on the porch and sip lemonade yet.I will say this though.I highly recommend taking a MSF course for people who don't know how to ride.It is very helpful.I know they put you out there on those little mickey mouse 250 Honda Rebels,but you will get your license and an insurance deduction.When talking about sportbikes,which is what I ride you need all the savings on insurance you can get.2003YamahaR6 I'm out.HOLLA
Tomcat said:
posted on July 9, 2006 5:29 PM — 69.153.83.199 — link — abuse?
Sorry for Craft family ,to lose a child is a horrible thing.Ive been riding bikes since 70 and most people will tell you about laying them down and near misses etc.etc.
To ride one in the city traffic is madness, but even on a pleasant farm to market road you have to expect every car to jump out in front of you.
God Bless the family after this terrible trajedy.Tampa Hurricane said:
posted on July 10, 2006 9:37 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
Gatorpilot, if you look at the situation of your friends two accidents closley, you will see that it was partially the riders fault in both of them. In the first accident you stated that the rider was not able to react fast enough and hit part of a busted tire. It sounds to me like he was riding too fast for the visibility conditions. As in any motor vehicle at night, the driver should not be going fast enough that he/she can not react to something that appears in the headlight. Your friend was going too fast in this accident for the conditions (nighttime).
In the second accident, the driver wasn't paying attention to his surroundings and was probably driving in the wrong part of the lane. The first thing that any good motorcycle rider learns is they have to pay close attention to all the vehicles around them (cars and especially SUVs like to cut off motorcycles). Also, the motorcycle should be properly placed in the ridings lane (streets are broken into three different lanes for motorycles), and in the accident you described, it sounds like the driver was doing neither of these. It's always a good idea in heavy traffic (as you can tell from the name, I live in Tampa with terrible traffic) to leave yourself some escape routes incase another driver does come into your lane.
As for your fear of drivers coming up behind you and rear-ending you, I believe that if you are paying attention, and have a motorcycle that has some power(I have a ZX-6R), you can always accelerate and move to avoid anything.
As I stated earlier, motorcycles are not the problems, it is the drivers using them that don't know how to properly ride them that cause the problems.
Gatorpilot said:
posted on July 12, 2006 9:02 AM — 72.154.129.94 — link — abuse?
No, Tampa Hurricane. As I stated earlier, it is the motorcycle. Not the rider. Period, end of discussion, and even ardent motorcyclists (who have the power of objectivity instead of blind loyalty to their hobby) know this is true.
The rider can't be perfect, and the rider can't foresee every eventuality. Even good auto drivers end up in wrecks. The difference is, the chance of an accident occuring is higher for the rider, and the chance of the accident causing severe injury or death to the rider is exponentially higher.
The bottom line is you don't control your fate when you ride a motorcycle. You may think you do, but you don't, and the experts and the statistics bear that out. You are putting your life in the hands of strangers, hoping they see you, hoping they react to you. I've seen some awful stuff in my life but none worse than the motorcyclist who was run over by a tow truck. I passed the accident in the left lane. The accident was recent so there was a long bloody streak with large pieces of skin (unidentifiable body parts) among the mass. It was horrendous and it nearly gave me nightmares.
Think twice about it. Like I said, if you have a family who counts on you, you simply have no business doing it. If you're a young guy with no strings attached, it's your call and no one's stopping you. It's a free country. However, you need to recognize your chances of an awful, painful death are pretty high.
Like I said, give it some thought, and best of luck to you.
-Gatorpilot
Tampa Hurricane said:
posted on July 12, 2006 3:15 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
Gatorpilot it sounds like you want everybody to be pussies living in a plastic bubble to keep from anything bad happening to them. However, what if the bubble pops and you are sufficated by the plastic? Motorcycles are safe to drive if you know what you are doing and pay attention. The chance of an accident are not higher for motorcycles than they are for automobiles (I would love to hear where you received that tainted statistic) because motorcycles are more mobile and agile than a car or SUV. A rider should be wearing proper safety equipment while operating a motorcycle, and this cuts down on the injuries from accidents.
Gatorpilot if you are afraid of your skirt getting caught in the wheel or flying up and showing everyone your pink panties, then you should keep your irrational fear of motorcycles; if not, then you should go out on a ride and realize how much fun and safe motorcycles are.
As I stated earlier, motorcycles are not the problems, it is the drivers using them that don't know how to properly ride them that cause the problems.
Gatorpilot said:
posted on July 13, 2006 4:39 PM — 72.154.129.94 — link — abuse?
No, Tampa Hurricane. Now, take a deep breath, because your credibility is about to absorb a serious blow. Unlike you, I actually research subjects before I make claims of fancy.
You stated: "Motorcycles are safe to drive if you know what you are doing and pay attention. The chance of an accident are not higher for motorcycles than they are for automobiles (I would love to hear where you received that tainted statistic) because motorcycles are more mobile and agile than a car or SUV. A rider should be wearing proper safety equipment while operating a motorcycle, and this cuts down on the injuries from accidents."
Well, I think we can all agree that the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is an authoritative souce for this data. Here's what they say:
- Per mile traveled in 1998, a motorcyclist is approximately 16 times more likely to die in a crash than an automobile occupant. And 3x (times) as likely to be injured. In 2003 terms (the most recent year we have for complete statistics), the motorcyclist is now more than 24 times more likely to die in a crash and 5x more likely to be injured.
- Head injury is a leading cause of death in motorcycle crashes.
- More motorcyclist fatalities are occurring on rural roads.
- Undivided roadways account for a majority of the fatalities.
- Collision with a fixed object, such as a stopped motor vehicle in traffic, is a significant factor in over half of the fatalities.
From NHTSA's outsourced Motorcycle Fatalities Report, based on the Fatality Reporting System (FARS), provided by the NCSA (National Center for Statistics and Analysis), written by Umesh Shankar for the 30th International Traffic Records Forum:
- Motorcycle fatalities have been on the rise since 1997: 2,116 that year, up to 3,661 in 2003, a rise of 70%+.
- In most of these years the rate of increase of motorcycle rider fatalities has been higher than the rate of increase in motorcycle registrations.
As you now will be forced to agree, Tampa Hurricane, your argument is utterly without merit. Ride your motorcycle (with or without a skirt) if you like, but it remains my opinion that all of those infernal machines should be converted to scrap for all the injuries and heartache they cause. Remember, when you risk your life doing something stupid like riding a motorcycle, it affects others, too.
-Gatorpilot
T-Mac said:
posted on July 13, 2006 10:05 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
Evel Knievel once said,there are people who live in the white and black area,and there are people who live in the gray area.People living in the white and black area push the limit and see what they can get out of life.People in the gray area just kind of coast through life never knowing victory or defeat!!!Wise words in my opinion.I know when I'm on my bike I feel alive,free,and when my adrenaline kicks in you actually feel high.I love my bike.I don't Fear it,I Respect it!People say all the time that motorcycles kill people and stuff like that.It's the same thing with guns.Guns don't kill people.People with guns kill people.It's not the fault of the motorcycle at all.9 times out of 10 it is the fault of a person driving a car,truck,or SUV who is not paying attention to the road probably yapping away on a cell phone or something.I'm out.HOLLA
T-Mac said:
posted on July 14, 2006 11:01 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
Gatorpilot,I can't dispute your statistics.I'm honest in telling you that I simply don't know enough about it to debate.You bring up some valid points.Riding a motorcycle is anything but stupid though.It really is a great time.We all got one life to live anyway.Sometimes in life you just gotta say F*CK IT and live.Live life to the fullest.If you gave it a shot I think you would be addicted like me and Tampa Hurricane.I'm out.HOLLA
Someone said:
posted on July 16, 2006 10:54 PM — 213.254.73.103 — link — abuse?
You quote an example of someone who had an accident and decides to stop riding. I can quote you more people who fall down and get up again. So your quote does nothing to back up your argument of the problem being motorcyles and not the riders. I lost a friend at a car-car accident. A friend lost his father, mother and sibling. I know nobody in person who rode and died. Your point is moot.
Read your posts. Now, where it says motorcycle change for car, and where it says car change for tank. People shouldn't be driving around in cars! They are deadly!! Tanks should be it!
Tanks... Oh, I think those are now called SUVs. D
amn, back to square one. You know, since you are so worried about mass differentials, perhaps everyone should be riding, or driving the same car (heard that was a pretty popular idea in communist countries)
And isn't it lovely how you decide to post a slightly biased view?
- Head injury is a leading cause of death in motorcycle crashes.
I guess you forgot the part that says
- Helmet use among fatally injured motorcyclists below 50 percent
and
- In 1998, 500 motorcyclists lives were saved due to helmet usage; 307 could have been saved.
Your quote of 16 times more likely to die in a crash than an automobile occupant is a fallacy and has nothing to do with your position of blaming the motorcycle instead of the rider. In fact, quoting you again:
In 2003 terms (the most recent year we have for complete statistics), the motorcyclist is now more than 24 times more likely to die in a crash and 5x more likely to be injured.
What has changed in motorcyles in these years so drsatically to make them so deadly? Because, according to you it cannot be the new riders. So it has to be some particular types of motorcycles that are responsible for all these deaths and accidents? Right? Right? Wrong.
Going back to helmets, since wearing them could have saved more lives, who's responsibility is it to decide to wear the helmet? The rider or the machine?
- More motorcyclist fatalities are occurring on rural roads.
- Undivided roadways account for a majority of the fatalities.
- Collision with a fixed object, such as a stopped motor vehicle in traffic, is a significant factor in over half of the fatalities.
- Half of the fatalities are related to negotiating a curve prior to the crash
Now I challenge you to go back to the HURT report and compare. Do it. Even if you are pissed at my post. The undivided roadway and the last item are particularly telling, and very scary. The only logical conclusion you can extract is that there has been a big influx of new riders who do not have the required skills.
More riders age 40 and over are getting killed
Maybe these guys, with money in the bank and that rode 20 years ago and overconfidently think their skills are still fresh? That think helmet and armor are not cool?
Almost one third of the fatally injured operators did not have a proper license
Or maybe those ones? "I'm an excellent rider! Oh, no, I failed at the license practical test". Duh.
High blood alcohol levels are a major problem among motorcycle operators
Ooookay. We have no breakthoughs in motorcycle technology, and and the same time more people driving with no skills, equipment, or judgement. So perhaps you could say that even if the people were skillful enough, there would still be more fatal accidents than in cars. Then I would have to point you again to the HURT report, where it shows that both cars and riders are mostly responsible for bad decisions. And you can't take motorcycles away just because your driving skill suck, you know.
The issue with motorcycles is that they are less indulgent on rider stupidity than cars, and that does show off. I know you carry emotional baggage, but you should acknowledge that fact and accept that you are not willing to make a totally rational decision. Thats fine. I don't like spinachs even when logic says I should eat it.
Concluding, perhaps you should ask the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration for their opinion (or statistics if you prefer) on going fast at night, right when ideally should be nobody riding. Hold on, I can help you there. I'll give you a NHTSA qoute: Almost 60 percent of motorcyclist fatalities occur at night
Gatorpilot said:
posted on July 16, 2006 10:55 PM — 72.154.129.94 — link — abuse?
T-Mac, thank you for recognizing the truth contained within those statistics, and for seeing my side of things.
As for whether I'd find the thrill in riding motorcycles that you do, I've done just about every cool thing you can do with your clothes on, including competitive aerobatics (in fact I owned an aerobatic airplane) and flying business jets for a living. There ain't nothin' you can do on a motorcycle that compares to going eyeballs-out in an outside loop, or vertical rolls and hammerheads.
Incidentally, believe it or not, that stuff's a HELL of a lot safer than driving motorcycles.
Anyway, I understand the lure of thrill-seeking, believe me. But even when I was your age, I never wanted to ride motorcycles. Too many horrible accidents, some of which happened to friends of mine. I truly hate the fucking things -- no, not the inanimate object known as the "motorcycle," but the concept they represent. It's sheer stupidity, man. Doing it day in and day out, the odds are actually against surviving the experience. The only way you win is to simply give it up and choose a safer thrill.
Good luck to both you and Tampa Hurricane. Although I know he's not happy with how he was shut down in this thread, I hope he realizes that everything I've said has been in the hope that I might connect with something buried deep inside that thick cranium of his, and get him to at least move towards reconsidering his past-time.
Tampa Hurricane said:
posted on July 17, 2006 8:20 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
Gatorpilot thanks for the incorrect stats. You stated that motorcycles are more likely to be in an accident, but in you stats you give it doesn't say this at all. Maybe you should read your posts and stats before posting them. You do realize that there is a difference between motorcycle accidents and motorcycle accident fatalities, so hopefully you can find the tainted stats that you were referencing about motorcycles being more likely to be in an accident.
T-Mac said:
posted on July 17, 2006 4:40 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
Sean,no this blog you are on is about a College FB player named Teddy Craft who got killed in a motorcycle accident.Be sure to read the headline of each particular thread.We are not argueing.It's called a discussion bro!I'm not bored at all.BTW-What are you doing on here???I'm out.HOLLA
Tampa Hurricane said:
posted on July 18, 2006 10:23 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
Gatorpilot more people died in 2004 (last year I could find completed statistics for) in aeronautical related accidents than motorcycle accidents, so does that mean you should not be flying???
If you care about anyone you should quit flying and take trains as your mode of transportation. No the train could get into a wreck, so you should drive everywhere. Strike that because you could get into an automobile accident, so you should walk everywhere. No that's no good either, because someone could run you over while you are walking, or the extra exercise could cause you to have a heart attack, so you should just stay in your house. No that's not save either because a plane, car, truck, etc...could crash into your house and kill you inside of your home, so maybe you should live in an underground bunker to protect yourself from all those dangers. Yes, that sounds like the only safe thing to do...everyone should live in underground bunkers to keep themselves safe from possible dangers.
Gatorpilot said:
posted on July 18, 2006 5:04 PM — 4.235.156.196 — link — abuse?
Tampa Hurricane, your descent into morondom, made-up facts and blown credibility is complete. There were zero aviation fatalities on commuter carriers in 2004, and only 556 general aviation fatalities in 2004, down from 632 the year prior, and you can run that by the NTSB instead of your fantasy fact factory which you're operating inside that dented cranium of yours. By comparison, motorcycle fatalities were more than sextuple that amount in the same year at 3,661 and per accident, motorcycle fatalities are more than twice as likely than a general aviation accident.
Care to go again? Or have you had enough of this ass-whipping?
Tampa Hurricane said:
posted on July 24, 2006 8:52 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
Gatorpilot are you too stupid to even read the entire post??? I didn't say anything about commuter carriers or general aviation, I stated aeronautical which includes all types of flying machines. Your incorrect stats are becoming so commonplace than noone can believe anything that you state anymore. Read an entire post before making a comment! (that is assuming you can read which is a stretch for most gators)
Gatorpilot said:
posted on July 25, 2006 1:37 AM — 72.154.129.94 — link — abuse?
I didn't say anything about commuter carriers or general aviation, I stated aeronautical which includes all types of flying machines.
OK, Tampa Hurricane. Sorry I didn't include jetpacks, anti-gravity devices, magnetic levitation vehicles, or pixie dust (that last one's a nod to your Dungeons & Dragons hobby.) LOL.
Your incorrect stats are becoming so commonplace than noone can believe anything that you state anymore.
Au contraire, little man; the stats are dead on accurate, directly from the NTSB and NHTSA. It is not possible in this world to get more accurate stats from a more authoritative source. Clearly, motorcycles are far more dangerous than you've suggested, and you've essentially acknowledged that fact with your powerless final whiff, above.
Read an entire post before making a comment! (that is assuming you can read which is a stretch for most gators)
Your entire post - little substance which it contained - was read and considered. The problem, Tampa Hurricane, is that in this thread you have been eviscerated, disemboweled, set on fire and then doused with Agent Orange in the process of attempting match wits with me. In every single instance you have been utterly shut down in humiliating fashion. No whimpers or peeps out of you from this point on will make any difference.
Now have you had enough? Eesh, kids these days...
-Gatorpilot
Tampa Hurricane said:
posted on July 25, 2006 10:34 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
Gatorpilot, why don't you just admit that you slant you stats to reach your goal. I gave a statistic about aeronautical accidents and you give a rebuttal about commuter carriers. Even a gator fan should be able to comprehend that these are two totally different items.
It's just this simple, anything in live has dangers. Don't knock something just because you don't have the balls to try it.
Jim G. said:
posted on July 26, 2006 11:32 AM — 64.12.116.199 — link — abuse?
The Tampa Hurricane argument appears to be more about sabre-rattling than fact or definition of terms. Yes, motorcycles are more dangerous to operate than automobiles, and a greater risk is incurred in their operations. However, is the risk so great that all motorcycles should be "reduced to scrap?" I don't think so, and neither does mankind or the mighty National Traffic Safety Administration. Being a rider for over 30-years, it is my opinion that the vast majority of accidents occur as a result of operator error. The Hurt Report, the most comprehensive evaluation of motorcycle accidents, supports this view. My concluding remark is that all motorcyclists should be licensed, trained, wear proper protective equipment, and be oh so wary of other people on the road who may not be able to see you.
Gatorpilot said:
posted on July 27, 2006 8:22 PM — 72.146.119.202 — link — abuse?
Jim G., the fact remains that motorcycles are the most dangerous form of vehicular transportation out there, barring some weird-o device like a hoverboard (ala 'Back to the Future III') or something like that. No opinions can change that fact, and no amount of posturing by Tampa Hurricane or anyone else can change that fact. Based on that fact, my OPINION is that they should be converted to scrap based on the grief and heartache that the hobby causes to the people surrounding the jackass that chooses to do this. By the way, Ben Rothlisburger has announced that he intends to stop riding motorcycles since his crash. Wise choice on his part. Why does it always take an accident for you guys to see the light?
Colby Hunt said:
posted on July 27, 2006 9:27 PM — 72.11.126.82 — link — abuse?
sorry to come in so late, but as a motorcycle rider I was looking for info on motorcycle accidents (to make myself a safer rider) and came across this thread. Gatorpilot is very articulate. In fact, he's got to be the most articulate moron in the world.
What Tampa Hurrican is trying to get you to see is that your stats point to motorcycle fatality rates, not motorcycle accident rates.
Gatorpilot said:
posted on July 28, 2006 11:35 PM — 72.146.119.202 — link — abuse?
Colby: God damn, son, are all you boys who ride two-wheeled machines in complete deficit of any and all reading comprehension skills? For Jesu Christe's sake, fella, re-read the fucking post that started this shit and then re-read the initial response to my "scrap 'em all" comment. How many fucking times do I have to say it, it's about fatalities, you backwoods moron! We're talking about the fact that when you DO get into an accident on a motorcycle... IT TENDS TO BE FUCKING FATAL! Then this "Tampa Hurricane" yahoo says that motorcycles are actually safer than cars because... motorcycles are more maneuverable.
Sigh.
These are the people leading the thrust of your illegitimate argument.
SAD!
T-Mac said:
posted on July 30, 2006 1:38 AM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
People,Quit giving Gatorpilot hell because he has a different opinion of motorcycles.He is entitled to his opinion last time I checked.I will be honest.I ride my Yamaha R6 every chance I get,but I'll tell it like it is.I've been close more than once to having a trip to the ER and a jacked bike due to highway riding and people in a Car,SUV,or Truck not paying attention and YAPPING away on a cell phone.Me and my crew have started stuntin our bikes to stay off the streets for a little while.I don't have anybody depending on me either so it's all good.If I had a family I probably wouldn't ride everyday.I would still ride.Just maybe around my area for a few miles or so instead of riding 11 miles each way to work and back in traffic because that is the most hazardous.I love my bike.I RESPECT it!!I certainly dont think motorcycles should be turned to scrap because I love my 03 R6.Stop slammin Gatorpilot for having a different view.Maybe when I or we get older and have people depending on us we will think different.Who knows?I don't know.They say family life can change you.I don't know.I hope to have a family someday.Be Safe.LIV 2 RIDE.I'm out.HOLLA
T-Mac said:
posted on August 21, 2006 1:09 AM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
Gatorpilot,where are you bro???Are you okay?Send me a post so I know you are alright.When I go too long without hearing from friends I think the worst.I just buried a best friend last week.I tend to worry about my boys!Hit me up and let me know something.Are you alive?I hope so.I enjoy talkin to ya.YOUR FRIEND T-Mac
Jon said:
posted on October 2, 2006 12:23 AM — 64.12.116.199 — link — abuse?
I am sorry, but motorcycles are dangerous because you lack the protection despite wearing all the padding and safety gear imaginable. You are out in the open and if you get hit by a car or get into any accident, you are gonna be hurting real bad or most likely dead. You roll the dice everytime. I have two friends who just died on motorcycles in a two week time span. One guy has been riding for twenty years or so and the other for about ten years. They wore all the equipment and had lots of experience. One of them was my best friend, and most likely after hitting a car, you will find yourself to be thrown like a projectile and possibly run over by other traffic if there other cars around.
Gatorpilot said:
posted on July 6, 2006 12:25 PM — 72.154.129.94 — link — abuse?Very sad. Motorcycles again. I hate the damn things. Convert 'em all to scrap.