January 5, 2006
Rose Bowl Rundown
Here's some quick links to a few interesting items from the Rose Bowl with Texas and USC:
Chants from the Texas fans after the game:
“One more year”: Directed at Vince Young.“Best team ever”: Mockingly directed at USC.
“Heisman recount”: Shouted at the ABC television compound
Immeditately after the game, the Rose Bowl main scoreboard flashed: “2006 BCS CHAMPIONS USC TROJANS.” It was corrected a few seconds later. Anyone get a picture of this?
Trojans Football News: Congrats to Texas
Burnt Orange Nation: The greatest game ever. The greatest performance by an individual player ever.
The Mighty Mjd: Anyone else think Matt Leinart seems like kind of a bitch right now?
Bevo Sports: It’s a great day to be a Texas Longhorn.
mgoblog: All talk about "greatest ever" anything should be banned after that ESPN fiasco. Who knows? No one. Who can prove anything about anything? No one.
BoiFromTroy: We knew it was going to happen, that USC would lose, and for a brief while, I almost didn’t mind the defeat coming to the hands of a pretty good Texas team with one inVICNEible player…
Comments:
Longhorn fan in Chile said:
posted on January 5, 2006 1:02 PM — 200.83.40.22 — link — abuse?
RE: Not sure on the exact words he used but the Post game interview with Mat Leinart and their coach sounded like USC lacks some humility by not recognizing the Longhorns as the best team. In my humble opinion, the Horns whooped em fair and square - big time and deserve respect and recognition as the best in the nation - he said something along the lines that USC considers itself the best team but was a victim of circumstances.
Fan of the Game said:
posted on January 5, 2006 2:28 PM — 12.43.234.14 — link — abuse?
It seems difficult to get an objective and unbiased account of the performances of Young, Lienhart, and Bush without one or the other two getting bashed for his performance. Vince definately stole the show. He was nothing short of amazing. Lienhart, himself, had a great game and led his team up and down the field on all but 2 of the USC possessions. Bush, didn't steal the show, but still put up great numbers against a tough Texas defense. As well, all three stars had their share of mistakes/misfortunes. So what if USC didn't catch a break and UT caught a few of them. The final score is all that matters and Vince led his team to a great win. I think any team that lands any one of these guys is going to get one hell player, that will only make that team better.
Texas Tiger said:
posted on January 5, 2006 4:18 PM — 134.163.253.126 — link — abuse?
UT denies USC a 3-peat?
Even ESPN has a headline about how UT denied USC a 3-peat. Let me remind everyone, USC did not play in the 2003 BCS title game nor do they have that crystal football trophy from that year that comes from winning it.
Was there controversy? – Yes. OU should have never been allowed to play in the championship game because they didn’t win their conference. But it took OU’s strength and conditioning to at least make a game of it against LSU. USC struggles against any team that plays so physical. That’s why they almost lost to Fresno State, that's why they should have lost to ND, and that’s why they lost to Texas. That’s also why they would have lost to LSU in 2003.
Can they score? - most definitely. Best overall offense this season? – maybe, but you have to consider their strength of schedule. 3-peat? - it wasn’t even an option.
John said:
posted on January 5, 2006 5:16 PM — 67.176.238.182 — link — abuse?
kirk rogers,
Next year and every year after there is an extra BCS game called simply 'National Championship Game'. Next year it will be played on Jan. 8, in Phoenix. It looks like the game will rotate locations between Phoenix, New Orleans, Miami, and Pasadena. The schedule can be found at: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tvlistings/abcStory?page=aboutbcs
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on January 5, 2006 5:32 PM — 208.57.130.196 — link — abuse?
Pete Carroll is to blame for this loss. He rushes four guys all game long and drops the LB's about eight yards deep into coverage. Wrong defense to play against VY. He was 10 yards into the secondary before anyone could put a hat on him. The "zone secondary" coverage wasn't working anyway - so, why not rush six and go for a "zone five" coverage instead. There was no pressure put on this guy and you cannot let him do what he is best at. Worst defensive scheme I have ever seen thrown at a guy with that particular talent. On the contrary, Mack Brown put eight and nine in the box, and didn't care if Lienart beat him but wasn't going to let Bush and White go insane out there. Mack Brown did outcoach Pete Carroll in this one. No doubt about it.
Texas got just about all the breaks. I will not take that away from their great win. Young's knee was on the ground for a touchdown throw and that Texas receiver definately caught that ball and fumbled it with USC recovering. Vince Young made no mistakes and played like a champion should. The rest of Texas put it on the field like six times and really could not stop USC. The Trojans should have never tried to go "up the middle" with nine in the box on those 4th and short situations. Trojan arrogance there. Hope they learned something.
Reggie Bush's boneheaded pitch was really a bad play by someone trying to do way too much. And, with eight seconds left, Leinart ran around and let all the time go off the clock. With the ball at the 43, sitting on the bench was Troy Van Blarcom, who was the top rated kicker in this years freshman class. He kicks off and consistently drives it ten yards deep into the end zone. He might have been able to "get lucky" and hit a 60 yard FG. But, Leinart made sure that couldn't have been a possibility.
All in all - a great game. Texas had a lot of heart and deserved to get the win. USC made too many mistakes and let the thing get away from them. Even so, USC was beaten by a great Texas team, and will simply start a new winning streak. If Vince stays in next year - my vote is for him to get a Heisman.Tommie Trojan
Brian said:
posted on January 5, 2006 5:43 PM — 67.110.67.194 — link — abuse?
I find it hard to see how people claim UT caught the breaks. Texas put the ball on the ground over and over again, including to start the game, committed just as many dumb penalties, had a play go against them that should've been replayed. Everything seemed pretty even to me.
Hook 'EM '05 said:
posted on January 5, 2006 6:39 PM — 67.14.212.74 — link — abuse?
I stated that I couldn't wait for this day so I could rip into the doubters. I'm not going to go that route though. Yeah, Young's knee was down, but in USC's 34 game win streak, they caught a few breaks themselves. (THE BUSH PUSH AT NOTRE DAME). It's football and that stuff happens. The whole USC team showed great class after that game too. It was mentioned that Bush actually visited the Texas locker room to give congrats. That shows he's a man and I wish him the best in the NFL. How can anyone set there and second guess Pete Carroll? 34 freaking games in a row, 2 national titles, and 19 seconds away from a 3rd! "If you can't get a yard and a half, you don't deserve to win." That statement was made by Bobby Bowden and last time I checked, he was still the winningest coach in history. Fact is, someone had to win and someone had to lose. I'm just happy as hell that it was the Horns! Great season, and looking forward to next year.
schmed said:
posted on January 5, 2006 6:50 PM — 208.248.231.58 — link — abuse?
All year long, what critism on SC that was out there had to do with them being a killer team in a weak conference that didn't emphasize defense.
When you're ahead by 12 with 6 minutes to go, your defense has to bear down and SC's wasn't up to it.
Huskers said:
posted on January 5, 2006 10:58 PM — 71.31.192.169 — link — abuse?
USC could have had 15 defenders on the field and Vince Young still would have thrown and passed all over them. Thats it blame the coaches or the refs for the USC players for choking. What a bunch of sore losers. Just like Matt Leinhart saying after the game that USC had the better team. Thats class? CHOKE!
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on January 6, 2006 12:16 AM — 208.57.130.196 — link — abuse?
This just struck me, and as stupid as it may sound, I don't think that Bush will go pro now. I think that with Houston having the 1st pick - that Vince Young will declare for the draft and that Houston will take him #1.
I see Bush, White and Bing as being such great competitors - that they will all come back. I think the "bad taste" left in their mouths over that loss to Texas will bring them all back for their senior seasons. But, Texas will not have Young. Oh My God! USC could be #1 again starting off next year. We'd only have to get by Nebraska and Notre Dame at the Coliseum to be undefeated again! That is gonna be so sad for the rest of the country if this scenario does take place.Tommie Trojan
IrishFan said:
posted on January 6, 2006 1:23 AM — 69.91.20.85 — link — abuse?
Tommie Trojan forgot one other screw up on part of USC: Pete Carrols last time out called during the 2 point conversion. That time out could have helped set-up a field goal or TD. I respect USC for the talent they posses. However, USC got was to cocky!
Ed said:
posted on January 6, 2006 1:56 AM — 12.210.112.211 — link — abuse?
Let me get this straight. It is 4th down & 2 yds to seal a National Championship. USC has 2 Heisman winners plus running back White to get the 2 yards. USC brings in extra blockers and basically says we will run White "here" and Texas you have to stop us! Oh, I forgot to mention that Heisman winner Reggie Bush is NOT in the lineup! The Texas defense does not have to cover him because he is NOT in the lineup. The Texas defense does'nt have to spread their linebackers and defensive backs "OUT" to cover USC potent passing attack because USC has decided to put 11 men between the hash marks and dare Texas to stop them. Now I remember being taught the "BASIC" law of football defense back in high school that is still true today..."IF no one is lined up outside of you in a 4th and goal situation you are NOW free to go all out and SHOOT all gaps to free up someone behind you ie...Linebackers, strong and weak side safties and corner backs. You can Shoot only if the offensive formation your facing gives you the green light...Otherwise you have to STAY at home and follow the rules of "someone to your outside". Can you just imagine the relief the Texas defense felt when they looked out and saw Reggie Bush on the side lines!! The Texas linebackers must have thought they were dreaming! It would be like the Indianapolis Colts in the same situation with the game riding on this one play and your going to have to defend wide outs, Harrison & Wayne, slot, Stokley, tight end Clark and all pro running back E. James with Manning as the Quarterback...How do you stop them from getting 2 yards, how on earth do you cover all of these guys at the same TIME? Well you can do it if the Colts follow USC's plan of attack and bench everyone mentioned earlier except for tight end Dallas Clark and bring in extra blockers along with back up running back Dominic Rhodes and put 11 men between the hash marks and DARE the defense to stop them. Rhodes is one hell of a good runner especially if you only need 2 or 3 yards, he has come through for the Colts many times.But if you're a linebacker and you don't have to worry about James or Stokley or Clark then with USC's formation the linebackers and every one else on defense will be "selling-out" and shooting gaps to get to Rhodes or "White" as Texas did in the Rose Bowl. I'm from Indiana and Lord knows that our football just is not going to be Rose Bowling anytime soon, and I think what USC has accomplished these past 3 years are indeed something "very" special and we probably won't see happen again, but I just can't forget the feeling I had after USC called time-out and kept Reggie Bush on the sidelines and the offense lined up the way they did I just knew the Texas defense could'nt believe what they were seeing!! I can only imagine what was going through the linebackers and secondary minds!!! I only wish USC would have let Matt & Reggie and company lose by spreading the playing area and forcing Texas to cover everyone, just about what Notre Dame had to cover at the end of the game when Matt threw one hell of a pass to keep the ball moving..Having said my piece, congrat's on a great season and everyone have a safe "New Year"!!!
Travis-27 said:
posted on January 6, 2006 2:27 AM — 66.25.150.4 — link — abuse?
I haven't heard too much from football fans about Vince's knee being down. I think that most people realize that if that TD had been called back, Vince would have found a way to score anyway. USC "contained" Vince Young about as well as New Orleans "contained" hurricane Katrina. Say whatever you want about various body parts being down where ever, in the end, USC was Vince Young's bitch, and his Rose Bowl record setting yardage is proof.
Fan of the Game said:
posted on January 6, 2006 10:52 AM — 12.43.234.14 — link — abuse?
Smaza...at best the calls or non-calls resulted in a total of 9 points. However, USC had a chance to seal the deal late in the game and didn't get it done. Give Texas the credit and respect they deserve. By the way, I had USC picked to win 38-33. I was 19 seconds away from hitting it dead on, so I understand your frustration.
Blackdog said:
posted on January 6, 2006 3:38 PM — 139.169.76.188 — link — abuse?
Gerald,
"USC not only lost to Texas this year, they would have lost to Auburn last year and LSU in 2003."
Although I'm a USC fan, I (believe) I agree with you that the SEC is the hands-down best conference in the country. However, I completely disagree that Auburn and LSU would've beat SC.
I might be one of the few who believe that Carson Palmer led [AP] championship team is better than this year's team. That team's D was stacked and would've stopped LSU's offense, and their O would've scored more than enough points to win. And that team had solid special teams too.
Congrats to UT on a great win.
jwells said:
posted on January 6, 2006 6:06 PM — 68.50.162.255 — link — abuse?
Interesting info.
Go to the NCAA's web-site, if you look up division 1 football stats Toughest Schedule sorted by cumulative opposition,(not only who you played, but how your opponents/opponents played, etc.) The FACTS don't bear out opinions of most experts/fans. As of the end of the regular season, including the championship games, but not including the bowl games the results are as follows:
#1 Oklahoma; #2 Stanford; #3 Michigan; #4 Ohio State; #5 Arkansas; #6 Texas; #7 North Carolina; #8 Southern Cal; #9 Northwestern; #10 Georgia
# 15 Penn State; #16 Virginia Tech; #33 LSU; #48 Notre Dame; #53Miami; #54 Alabama;
Very interesting! The problem with the strength-of-schedule argument that for example, Virginia Tech was using when they were ranked behind Texas, is that you don't KNOW what the ACTUAL strength of schedule IS until AFTER all of the games have been played out. Until then,all you have is a perceived strength of schedule, i.e. opinions. So, after ALL the games were played, UT's was # 6, & VT's was # 16. So, they would have lost on strength of schedule even had they gone undefeated, as a matter of fact, the only way your strenth of schedule would have been better would have been if you had LOST, & then the team you played would have had a better record & improved your strength of schedule standing! The top 10 toughest schedules, according to the NCAA results (FACTS, NOT OPINIONS) SEC(#5,10) ACC(#7) Big 12(#1,6) PAC 10(#2,8) Big 10(#3,4,9) The bowls may also shed light on the "toughest conference" The Big 12 was tied with the ACC for the best bowl record @ 5-3. Not for a last second field goal by Alabama, & the Big 12 could have gone 6-2 & the SEC would have been sub-500 in bowl games. Just because some talking heads on ESPN etc tells you that your conference is "weak/strong" doesn't make it so. There is only 1 place that proves it--the playing field/results. While the best team doesn't ALWAYS win, MOST of the time it does. As a follower of TX, a Big 12 team, I got tired of hearing about the "weak" conference. By the way. The Big 12 had the most teams over .500 in the pre-season (playing out of conference), tied with the ACC with the most bowl-eligible teams as a results of in-conference play, with the most teams over .500, and finally, tied with the ACC for the most bowl wins(again, out-of-conference) Facts say Big 12 better than thought, & SEC (not-so-much)The Big 10, by the way played the toughest schedule by having 3 teams ranked in the top 10 according to the NCAA. I'd be curious if you could point to any results that would prove the SEC the toughest conference. (Forget about the "polls" they are opinions, & past seasons don't count!) Show me win/loss etc. I know I'm stirring the pot here,& rattling some people's cages, but I would be interested in any FACTUAL backup for opinions versus nothing but opinions themselves.---ENJOY!
Gerald said:
posted on January 6, 2006 6:39 PM — 65.12.162.103 — link — abuse?
Kevin: Where does this Texas team rank among the all time greats? Consider the evidence.
A: they were the nation's top scoring team at 50 a game.
B: They were what, #3 in defense, including Thorpe Award winner Huff and #1 DT in the draft Wright.
C: Vince Young, 30 - 2 as a starter, first player to pass for 3000 yards and rush for 1000 in a season.
D: 5 players with at least 400 yards rushing. 4 players with at least 4 rushing TDs with a 5th having 8.
E: 7 players with at least 150 receiving yards.
F: One of the nation's best special teams.
G: Mack Brown has won more games than anyone else since 1999.
H: Beat the winners of the 2000, 2002, 2003, and 2004 national titles in the same season (Oklahoma, Ohio State, USC).I still say the 1995 Cornhuskers that beat Florida 62 - 24 was the best team that I have ever seen, but this Texas team has to be mentioned along with the great Miami, Oklahoma, Alabama, USC, Navy, and Notre Dame teams.
Gerald said:
posted on January 6, 2006 7:04 PM — 65.12.162.103 — link — abuse?
Blackdog:
It was not the Carson Palmer team in 2003, Carson Palmer was 2002. For all the adulation that the Carson Palmer team now gets, who did they beat? They lost to the two best teams that they played, Washington State and Kansas State, and beat no one in particular. You can keep selling that Carson Palmer team because Palmer is an NFL Pro Bowler, but I ain't buying. USC wasn't even the best team in the PAC - 10 that year: Washington State was, and that was why Washington State beat USC and went to the Rose Bowl (where they were summarily crushed by Oklahoma).
As far as the Auburn and LSU teams, well I just say that the fact that Texas proved that the great Carroll and Leinart were indeed beatable - and proved it on their home field with so much on the line - should make everyone view those controversies in a different light, especially since the very same media who declared that USC would beat Texas claimed that USC was better than LSU and Auburn. All you folks who claimed that LSU and Auburn couldn't score, did you know that LSU actually led the nation in scoring margin, or that Auburn was averaging 450 points a game? So, where did you get the nonsense notions that those teams couldn't score enough to keep up with USC; that they were just defensive teams? From a media that had absolutely no interest in being honest. Not saying DEFINITELY that Auburn and LSU would have won, but USC would have found out that those schools can score AND had speed just as surely as you all found out that Texas did - and that Vince Young can throw the ball and Mack Brown can coach - this year.
Gerald said:
posted on January 6, 2006 7:06 PM — 65.12.162.103 — link — abuse?
Kevin:
Hey, how about defensive coordinator Gene Chizik! He went undefeated at Auburn last year, goes to Texas, and goes undefeated this year! You just know that he is going to have his pick of jobs next season! And to think that he used to coach at Central Florida ...
Danny said:
posted on January 7, 2006 11:22 PM — 66.196.22.93 — link — abuse?
This had to be the best football game I have ever seen!. I have been a Horn's fan for years. I have witnesses that can verify that I said "this has got to be one of the greatest games ever" when we were 12 down in the 4th! There were so many great plays and perfomances on both sides of the ball. The great players "showed up". No way Leinart has seen anything like that interception in the end zone before. I mean that was unbelievable!! Just a great plwyer making a great play.
I have to say I have to vent one sour grape... I watched the Heisman ceremony... I was dissapointed when Bush won. But, thats not my sour grape. Bush has Heisman written all over him. BUT, when they released the vote count....MAN I WAS STEAMED!!.. No way that should be the case unless there is a bias... absolutely no way.... Thats the reason why the "talking heads" who had a vote were defensive and embarrased after the Rose Bowl. In my unobjective and one sided opinion.. Young is by far the best player in the country.. not simnply the "MVP" as many were relgating him to prior to the Heisman. Had the vote been closer I might have been less upset... but com' on.. And they wondered why Vince was upset. Its not that he lost... but that so many failed to acknowldge that maybe, just maybe, as he showed in the Rose Bowl, he is the most talented player in the game.
jwells said:
posted on January 8, 2006 1:28 AM — 66.44.55.7 — link — abuse?
Keep in mind what Texas was up against. The Rose Bowl was a HOME GAME for the Trojans! However I've never seen such a biased portrail in my life from the network. Am I the only one that noticed ALL the game time cameras kept going to Leinert's & Bushes famlies during the game? I bet the Horns had a parent or 2 there--but couldn't tell it from the camera work!
Even the "commentary!" Both booth announcers live in Southern Calif...couldn't you tell?--I could!
I wonder how SC would do in Darrell Royal Memorial Stadium? or "The Shoe"? or Tiger Stadium? etc. You saw how they did in South Bend against Notre Dame! They played Virginia Tech opening game in Lane Stadium last year & it was too close for comfort! I know MOST of the SC fans have been gracious, but to those who are still crying that the "best team didn't win", I only have to point to 2 plays. 1 on offense, & 1 on defense. When it came down to gut-check-time, I believe the best team stepped up. 1st on Defense. When Lindel White got the ball on 4th & 1 with 2:12 left, & SC 5 points ahead, if SC prevails on that play, GAME OVER. 2nd on Offense. Texas is on the 9 with 26 seconds left & it's 4th down. If SC prevails on that play, GAME OVER. SC didn't have to prevail on BOTH of these, just 1 of the 2 plays, & the'd have won. Not to mention the following 2 point conversion to make it a field goal won't beat you score. You can talk about the knee down, or whatever you want, but no one knows whether or not TX would have scored, but I would have liked their chances! VY was going through SC all nite long like poop through a goose. They hadn'd stopped him all nite to the tune of almost 500 yards. Does anyone REALLY believe that he would have been denied with 4 cracks @ the end-zone since it would have been 1st down from the 8 anyway? Blame the SC coaches for not using a time out & pushing for a review. The Michigan coach did it 2x in his game against the cornhuskers. Besides. They spend their time-outs like a sailor @ a $2.00 whore-house, they might as well as used one there. Then again, you could credit the Texas coaches/players for the heads-up quickly setting up for the extra point before it could be reviewed. Besides. You could point to several other things that affected the final score that went against the horns. I watched it again & made a list of 11, but I'll mention just 2. One was in the 1st 1/2 when a TX linebacker #4, went up & intercepted the ball, came down with it solid, then it came out when he bounced on the ground...Whatever happened to "the ground can't cause a fumble?" It didn't even get a review! 2nd example, when Jarret caught the last SC TD, the game clock had expired prior to the snap...not called. The knee-down that the cry-babies keep talking about was so early in the game, it's affect was virtually non-existant. SC had LOTS of time for the "better" team to prove itself...I believe it did. TX fumbled the opening punt that resulted in the 1st 7 points, as well as putting the ball on the ground 4x, we had enough of our own mistakes that if SC was really the better team, they had plenty of time & opportunities to prove it.
posted on January 8, 2006 2:11 PM — link — abuse?Jeff Quinton said:
Jwells,
You might want to check on that game against VT. As far as I remember it was at Fedex Field in Landover, MD not at Lane Stadium in Blacksburg, VA.brian said:
posted on January 8, 2006 9:45 PM — 65.115.141.154 — link — abuse?
yeah...yeah....the same people also said hands down,....Oklahoma would win the 2004 BCS Championship & Texas could never win the "Big One." Wow...how things change,..now Texas is on top of the land...Anyone want to argue who Texas now would not win against..."I thought so."
Hookem Horns said:
posted on January 9, 2006 10:09 PM — 24.175.254.140 — link — abuse?
Texas is one of the best in Texas or even the nation in recruiting,they'll be alright trust me.
Replacing Vince, you simply can't. But Matt isn't a Vince either. But he won a big one also.
So I think Texas with the recruits they land can
find another diamond in this great state of football.Hookem Horns said:
posted on January 9, 2006 11:16 PM — 24.175.254.140 — link — abuse?
Jwell I remember those plays so well. As I recall It was a interception #4 caught. I also recall it was over looked and ruled incomplete.
It was in a crucial part of the game. Would have put the ball back in Vince's hands.
But they made up for it by calling it a incompletion to #25. Neither of these plays affected the outcome. When the game was on the line. The best team won, and I did say team.
All of a sudden without vince Texas can't win.
How many close games SC was sure to be on their way to lose hadn't Reggie bell them out?
I wonder Will SC be in the top 10 next season?
Probably so only because the polls are so bias.
what is the difference between Reggie Bush and Vince young. They both were in the game. Vince just proved to be more valuble that particular night,in the crunch. Or any other night.
And another thing I've been watching them sports networks. Since Jan. 4. I hardly even hear them mention Reggie's name.Why is that? He's the Heisman trophy winner, isn't he?
SC really thought Reggie would bell them out.
But Texas proved too much for him, Matt and their supporting cast.
So stop say Vince won this game by his self. Texas D stopped SC O. Texas O scored on SC D.
End of discussion!!!!!!! I'M with ya JwellDuckman said:
posted on January 10, 2006 6:04 PM — 66.223.208.241 — link — abuse?
Hookem Horns,
I don’t want to take away from the Texas victory because they deserve to win that day. USC made to many mistakes. They deserve to lose that day, but don’t get cocky. You state Texas stopped the USC offense but if one looks at the numbers you would find that nothing could be farther from the truth. USC was one mistake from winning that game. Don’t act like you dominated that game because did not in any way. Do you think that Texas could of won that game without VY? I don’t think so. Enjoy your win, but do it with grace.
Hookem Horns said:
posted on January 11, 2006 8:15 PM — 24.175.254.140 — link — abuse?
Duckman I'm not being cocky I'm only stating facts. SC has won alot of games they surely would have lost without Reggie. Remember Fresno State. And you say mistakes? A team is one body.
Not one man. There was 10 other players on that field.And 11 others stuffed SC on 4th down. #2 made the catch that put Texas in position to score. TE caught passes all night.
Further more I never said Texas dominated the game. 41-38, hardly a dominant performance. But, it is a win. As I was saying, in the end a win is a win. That's all that counts.
What about all the close games the great SC has won. I wonder why people don't say if Bush wasn't there they would not have won. Or If Matt
would have left a year ago ND would have surely
beaten SC. Why,because it don't matter they are a componant on that team.
Why credit teams that win with great players, and discredit this team that won with a great player! Don't say that's not what I am hearing, because it is. Enuff is enuff. Big XII 2 up on PAC 10. OU & TX, 2-0 2006brian said:
posted on January 12, 2006 8:42 PM — 65.115.141.154 — link — abuse?
Well....Tommie, I'm not exactly a Texas Fan, just simply trying to make a point that they are the best right now. Yes, Texas will not be the same, but they'll probably still be in the mix...at least in the top 10. I'm certain that USC will also be in the top 10 next year. Both teams will most likely reload with all of the talent they recruit year-in and year-out. I think next year will be much more wide open than it has been for the past three. Your USC Trojans were a great team and their legacy will stay intact. I have no problems of what they accomplished the last few years.
uppitysooner said:
posted on January 31, 2006 11:38 AM — 70.182.70.143 — link — abuse?
Here goes a prediction for you. Texas will NOT repeat as National Champs...They will not win the Big 12, heck they won't even take the south. They will lose to Ohio State, Oklahoma (again) and probably get screwed at Tech. Look for them in the Holiday bowl.
Greg said:
posted on February 5, 2006 7:08 PM — 207.237.52.213 — link — abuse?
USC should've beaten Texas in the Rose Bowl, USC is clearly the more talented team, but Texas caught some extremely lucky breaks with some mental mistakes from USC like Reggie Bush's fumble and the facemask penalty on Texas' final drive, regardless, the bottom line is that the USC team from the 2004-2005 season would've crushed Texas into pieces and USC will be better than Texas next year! Fight ON!
JPAV said:
posted on April 14, 2006 5:19 PM — 12.163.202.41 — link — abuse?
greg-
Your allusion to "lucky breaks" got me thinking. HOw about the first punt of the game, Texas goes from being on USC's side to having their defense get back on the field after forcing a "3andOut", usc scores, that was just fate right? How about Griffin's pick? Matt could've thrown a better ball, huh?
Vince didn't utterly DOMINATE the defense, he just got lucky, he's not 6'5, can't run a 4.4-4.5, USC's defense is actually better than they played. The safety didn't actually grab the facemask, that was an illusion....
Reggie, "UNWILLFULLY" threw that ball to a "F-ING THIRD STRING WALK-ON", you and all your arrogant friends must have watched an alternative game. Oh, and about that "the bottom line is that the USC team from the 2004-2005 season would've crushed Texas into pieces"...this is 05-06, you IDIOT. We'll see where the teams end up in 06-07, but then I could just argue that the 2005-2006 Texas team would have "crushed" the USC to pieces if things don't go the way I want them to.
HOOKED said:
posted on April 14, 2006 5:21 PM — 12.163.202.41 — link — abuse?
greg-
Your allusion to "lucky breaks" got me thinking. HOw about the first punt of the game, Texas goes from being on USC's side to having their defense get back on the field after forcing a "3andOut", usc scores, that was just fate right? How about Griffin's pick? Matt could've thrown a better ball, huh?
Vince didn't utterly DOMINATE the defense, he just got lucky, he's not 6'5, can't run a 4.4-4.5, USC's defense is actually better than they played. The safety didn't actually grab the facemask, that was an illusion....
Reggie, "UNWILLFULLY" threw that ball to a "F-ING THIRD STRING WALK-ON", you and all your arrogant friends must have watched an alternative game. Oh, and about that "the bottom line is that the USC team from the 2004-2005 season would've crushed Texas into pieces"...this is 05-06, you IDIOT. We'll see where the teams end up in 06-07, but then I could just argue that the 2005-2006 Texas team would have "crushed" the USC to pieces if things don't go the way I want them to.
Tomcat said:
posted on April 19, 2006 9:29 PM — 69.153.83.234 — link — abuse?
Tommy & Greg I've watched the game repeatedly and it was a great game. Tommy commented that Texas is not going to beat anybody next year and it was a one man team this year. Sorry Tommy smoke another one and read the comments from jwells and hookem and others.Texas will be sucessful year after year.They have an excellent program with the best recruiting, the best strength and conditioning programs and the best fans. They have pride,teamwork and a coaching staff.They are four or five men deep in most positions.They will wear you down and not give up. Texas is number 1 in every way. Young was never sacked, however Leinart was.One man team Tommy? Afraid Not. We beat the Trojans despite the home feild advantage, the sorry refs and timekeepers. Bottom line is that this is a TEAM sport.Pride-Heart-Team=Champions
Too bad for you sorry sore Losers Hookem
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kirk rogers said:
posted on January 5, 2006 12:57 PM — 4.227.166.143 — link — abuse?'greatest team ever' was able to produce a grand total of ONE BCS Championship.
since 1998 we have had 8 different winners, nobody has repeated.
the AP trophy of 2 years ago is no longer given, is that correct?