January 4, 2008
Longhorns hire Muschamp as DC
In what started from a tip from Ryan (thanks, Ryan!), Auburn DC Will Muschamp interviewed yesterday for the vacant DC position with the Texas Longhorns.
Last night, just after 1am, the Texas Rivals.com site - Orangebloods.com - reported that Mack Brown had closed the deal and Muchamp has been hired by Texas.
In other words, Texas has just served notice to the rest of the Big XII.
So how did the 'Horns land Muschamp? Well, Orangebloods is also reporting that Muschamp received a Jimbo Fisher-esque deal, guaranteeing him a payout in a certain number of years if he is not offered the Texas Longhorns coaching job.
Now, a little grain of salt, I have not seen that reported elsewhere yet. And, I don't think we're likely to see Mack retire just yet... so it is likely just a balloon payment to Muschamp (if it is confirmed).
This is -- in a word -- outstanding for Texas. Not only is this going to move the Longhorns to the top of the Big XII, but it says an awful lot about UT's stature in the college football community. For Texas to go out and grab the #1 guy in the nation as DC....
In all likelyhood, Texas will be a temporary stopping point for the Muschamp. A rising star in the coaching circles, his name was already being floated for several vacant head coaching positions this year. Given his track record (a national championship at LSU, a top-10 NFL defense with the Miami Dolphins, and a top 10 defense at Auburn, there's every reason to think he will be successful in Austin and parlay the Longhorns position into a head coaching job somewhere.
Jay at Track Em Tigers calls this a big blow to Auburn's SEC hopes in 2008.
If this proves to be true, it’s a huge blow to Auburn heading into 2008. Winning the SEC with two new coordinators will be a tall task even with the talent the Tigers have returning.
Definitely a blow to Auburn, although the Tigers will still have the benefit of some outstanding talent to the D-side of the ball. It will be interesting to see how Tuberville responds.
Comments:
Neville said:
posted on January 4, 2008 9:50 AM — 70.164.69.146 — link — abuse?
Ouch. This is the exact hire Bob Stoops needed to have made to get back emotion on the defensive side of the ball that has been lacking since Mike Stoops left for AZ. I can't believe I am saying it, but Bob Stoops just got out manuvered by Mack Brown...
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 4, 2008 10:34 AM — 76.182.205.22 — link — abuse?
said:
Great hire for my Horn's. Even after having one of the worst defenses in the nation and in school history to still win 10 games was shocking enough. Now the futures so bright i gotta wear shades. What a conference the Big 12 will be next year!
OU Fan said:
posted on January 4, 2008 10:54 AM — 84.146.38.120 — link — abuse?
Neville post #2, how did Bob Stoops get out manuvered by Mack Brown? I never heard of any word that Stoops was after Muschamp. I agree that Brent Venables needs to go and someone like Mike Stoops to come back, but if Bob Stoops never had intentions of hiring Muschamp then he did not get out manuvered by Mack Brown. However, Mack Brown's timing was perfect. And besides, as much as I hate to say it I doubt Venables will ever have to leave OU. Him and Stoops are too good of friends. One positive note about Brent Venables is that he's a good recruiter. Just my opinion. BOOMER!
OU Fan said:
posted on January 4, 2008 11:01 AM — 84.146.38.120 — link — abuse?
FanoftheGame, I have to agree. Just because Texas hired Muschamp does not guarantee that the Longhorns will automatically run the table in the Big 12 next season. To me, it just means that their defense will be better coached. Just because the Sooners are in this bowl funk does not make them a bad team. Texas will still have to play OU and there are a ton of key starters returning for the Sooners next season. BOOMER!
RkyMtnTiger said:
posted on January 4, 2008 11:03 AM — 67.190.60.136 — link — abuse?
Not really sure why you are shocked by winning 10 games at UT. With the weak schedule UT has anyone from the SEC could have won 10 games!!!
The 3 losses that you do have are to the only real opponents in the Little 10!
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 4, 2008 11:16 AM — 76.182.205.22 — link — abuse? said:
When you count in that we should have lost to Oklahoma State, Nebraska, and Tech yeah it's a suprise that we won 10 games. You SEC guys just think yall are the greatest. Why doesnt the rest of the nation just fall off the earth and let's give the SEC a national title every year!
Zac said:
posted on January 4, 2008 11:19 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
OWEE!!! Where are Autigerman or WarEagle-A? I am most curious as to their comments on this loss. Not to mention, I'm especially curious as to who may be out there who could replace Will Muschamp, and would also be willing to go to Auburn. (I'm not sure I'd hire MI's former DC, were I Tuberville.)
Autigerman said:
posted on January 4, 2008 11:23 AM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?
This move doesnt make a lot of since to me.
If Arkansas dosent land Petrino he would have been there. Southern Miss offered him a head coach job. Not a bad place to start certainly more money then an assistant at Texas.
Seems like a one year move two tops.
Im thinking if he stayed at Auburn one more year with the team he has coming back he pretty much could write his own ticket.
Either way he was gone soon from AU.
This is to much DE JA VU for me.
RkyMtnTiger said:
posted on January 4, 2008 11:32 AM — 67.190.60.136 — link — abuse?
"Fall off the earth and let's give the SEC a national title every year!" ...that is basically what has happened when the SEC has played in the title game.
1998 - Tennessee (Tennesseee vs Florida St.)
2003 - LSU (Oklahoma vs LSU)
2006 - Florida (Florida vs Ohio St.)Auburn should have played in the 2004 BCS game. We all know Oklahoma didn't show up!!!
posted on January 4, 2008 11:41 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
If it is true, then I'm getting a little sick and tired of Texas poaching our DCs. First, Gene Chizik in 2004 and now Muschamp? I guess it's nice to have others want what you have.
I don't think it makes a lot of sense, though. Being a Georgia alum, I think Muschamp's heart is in the SEC. I would think he'd be more interested in a SEC HC position than anywhere else, especially if his alma mater was available in a few years. Hell, he even interviewed for the GA Tech job.
I think it'll be a few more years before Muschamp is ready to be a HC. But if he thinks there's more opportunity in Austin, then go for it. We'll go look for like our 6th DC in the last 8 years, or something like that...
TE
posted on January 4, 2008 12:07 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Blame Tommy Tuberville's hire as Offensive Coordinator for Muschamp's exit out of Auburn, Alabama and entrance into Austin, Texas...
Spread/No Huddle Offense=limited possessions=less Time of Possession=More Pressure On Defense=Muschamp in Austin
Tampa Hurricane
posted on January 4, 2008 12:08 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
RkyMtnTiger,
How is the SEC so dominant when they have only won 3 titles in the past 10 years?
Big 12 - 3
SEC - 3
Big 10 - 2
Pac 10 - 2
ACC - 1
Big East - 1 (team no longer part of the conference)Two years had co-national championship winners.
You would think that if a conference was as good as the SEC fans believe, they would be able to win the NC more often!
TE
posted on January 4, 2008 12:14 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Let's see...With a win on Monday, LSU because the first two-time Crystal Winner since the BCS Era began, and also becomes the 2nd straight winner from the SEC...
We've had more multi-invites to the BCS than any other conference (FIVE since 1998, the first year, more than any other conference), and we should've played for the title, rightfully, in '03, '04, '06, & this year in '07...
The Big XII has won two national titles in the BCS Era...OU in '00, and Texas two years ago...Tied with the SEC, whose got LSU & Florida, in '03 & '06, respectively...
Autigerman said:
posted on January 4, 2008 12:17 PM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?
All year long ive heard ESPN go on and on about Bo Pelini. How he should be in line for the next big college coaching job.
He is a great coach dont get me wrong,but all along im thinking this guy Muschamp is every bit as good as Bo.
He has proven himself at every level he has coached.I figured the only difference was he was at LSU and Will was at Auburn.
As badly as id like to change things the truth still remains that certain schools just get preferental treatment. Texas is one of those schools.If Muschamp goes there and turns the D around and he will (no pun intended) he will likely be offered a huge job much like Bo.
Nebraska, now thats a real job for a first time head coach, goodness.
Could he get the same offers after being at Auburn, yea i think so, but maybe this Bo thing has him thinking differently.Im hoping if he does go he will at least say why.
JMANAU said:
posted on January 4, 2008 12:22 PM — 208.62.58.101 — link — abuse?
TE,
That's is sooo wrong.
In the Chick-Fil-A Bowl....
Auburn ran an 11 YEAR HIGH - 90 Plays = MORE POSSESIONS
Auburn held the Ball for 30:46 to Clemson's 29:14 = MORE TIME OF POSESSION
Auburn will score more points next year with a new offense = LESS PRESSURE ON DEFENSE TO MAKE STOPS
Just the Facts....
RkyMtnTiger said:
posted on January 4, 2008 12:29 PM — 67.190.60.136 — link — abuse?
Tampa Hurricane,
I am simply stating that every year that the SEC has played for the BCS title they have won it. I cannot help that the polls do not place them higher in the rankings the years that they didn't play for the title. I am all for a play off system that will determine a true champion!
OU-Ron
posted on January 4, 2008 12:30 PM — 68.12.216.68 — link — abuse? said:
War Eagle, looks like Texas is using Auburn as their training camp, much like A&M and Auburn's HC's, although Tubby didn't take the bait this time. Mack had to make a change, if he lost to OU and A&M again in the same year, the Austin mob would run him out of town on a rail....
JMANAU said:
posted on January 4, 2008 12:33 PM — 208.62.58.101 — link — abuse?
Tampa Hurricane,
It's a little more dificult to get there when you have to play a tougher week-to-week schedule in the SEC. A loss just about puts you out of an NC, and only 3 teams have gone perfect in 15 years in the SEC
'92-Alabama
'99-Tennessee
'04-AuburnTherefore, when we do 'beat the biased' system, we always prevail.
Just the Facts....
posted on January 4, 2008 1:21 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
I don't think time of possession for the offense had a single thing to do with Muschamp being offered a job in Austin. You would have to assume that Muschamp would up and quit, not even attempting to accept a challenge. Hell, he moved to the NFL with Saban. Don't think that was a bit harder than having yout team on the field for 2 more minutes a game?
You know, you can still run the ball from the spread, and expect Auburn to continue to do a lot of that with their new offense. Run the ball, run the ball, run the damn ball!
Ron: I guess we're flattered that Texas sees us as a fertile field. Don't get me wrong, I know t.u. is a better historic program than Auburn, but for a guy with his roots in the SEC, it's quite a leap westward. I wouldn't expect Mack Brown to be leaving anytime soon, so can you say that DC at Tejas is really a springboard for Muschamp? Chizik used it as a springboard for...Iowa State... Okay, bad analogy...
Zac: Anyone heard what Jon Tenuta is doing these days? Maybe he can drive down I-85 to the Plains? Hey, I'm your Volvo wagon man! Email me at: glg68@aol.com Greg
Tampa Hurricane
posted on January 4, 2008 1:21 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
JMANAU, if the SEC does play such a tough schedule, then why is an SEC team only in one of the three major strength of schedule ranking top five? Why does everyone always support LSU and their two losses being in the national title game while in one of the rankings their strength of schedule is number 35 and they are 21 is another?
dawgfan said:
posted on January 4, 2008 1:33 PM — 65.222.248.66 — link — abuse?
tampa hurricane - the strength of schedule for SEC teams is low b/c they beat up on each other giving solid teams losses and therefore making the schedule strength look weaker than it actually is. the other thing is that people write the formulas for the strength of schedule which include bias. One of those guys has his formula set up to where it is tougher to play nothing but 6-7 win teams as opposed to playing 4 very strong teams, a few 6-7 win teams, and a few cream puffs. All of these strength of schedule rankings are bias so you just can't trust them.
Bevo Boy said:
posted on January 4, 2008 1:40 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
FanoftheGame #1, he will have more success at Texas because Texas has a better offense (even without Jamaal Charles). If you had taken the time to watch the Holiday Bowl, you would also see that Mack Brown is just as good a coach as anyone in college football. He had everyone on that team motivated to win that game. Almost everyone was picking ASU to win (of the analysts that I heard, anyway) and Texas just came out and hit them hard and wouldn't let up. Lastly, no offense to Auburn, but I think that Muschamp will get more attention for having success at Texas than he would at Auburn, which would open up job opportunities for him.
TE
posted on January 4, 2008 2:00 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
Mack Brown's the best recruiter that College Football's ever seen...
Unfortunately, he's only a mediocre coach...
Before Bevo Boy and the Burnt Orange Kool-Aid drinkers start crowing...Yes, the man does have a national title...But, he had Vince Young, a dynamic playmaker who put that team on his back and carried them...
But, let's be honest...aside from Vince Young, the guy has some sort've brainlock going up against Big Game Bobby Stoops at the State Fair...He can't win his own division without Young, and he cannot beat a guy who can't beat anyone nationally of note. A defensive guru whose now 1-2 in national title games, and giving up close to half a hundy against teams like Boise State and a coachless West Virginia, sans Steve Slaton?
If you're not the best coach in the Big XII, then you ain't one of the best coaches in the country. That conference-due to Stoops complete Jedi mind-domination of Mack Brown-is going to stop getting the benefit of the doubt on a national stage.
Mack Brown can't beat Stoops, and Stoops can't win outside the Big XII...Therefore, Mack ain't hawt sh!t...He's just the most overpriced recruiting coordinator in college football history...
Bevo Boy said:
posted on January 4, 2008 2:15 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
dawgfan #28, the only problem with what you are saying is that you are also throwing in bias opinions. For example, let's look at Arkansas:
Arkansas finished 8-5 (4-4)
Their five losses
vs. No. 21 UK 42-29
vs. No. 22 AU 9-7
@ No. 24 Tenn. 34-13
@ No. 1 LSU 50-48
vs. No. 6 Mizzou 38-7avg. loss vs. SEC- 9.5 points
They lost to Mizzou by 31 points. They had 38 days to rest and get prepared for their bowl game. Missouri had 31. Both teams had one player leave for the Heisman trophy, but Chase Daniel needed every second he could to make up for the advantage that the Ark. defense would already have (assuming at the least coaches watched the Big XII title game and showed the players later how to beat Chase Daniel) and he is playing the most important position to any offense. Now, shouldn't a team from the "toughest conference" be able to take advantage of a situation like this and beat the crap of a "lesser conference" team?TE
posted on January 4, 2008 3:07 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
So he's good for a .25 winning percentage against him! WOWSER!!!!!!
Oh, and Bevo Boy...Please don't compare Mizzo to Arkansucks...They lost their Master Motivator (and like it or not, Houston Nutt's a d@mn good motivator), and he was also their play-caller and the architect of that offense...
You've also got guys like McFadden counting money without a coach they felt fealty to...Remember him kissing Nutt after the LSU win and talking about "bringing that wood"?
(I know...we're all regretting me bringing that up, but for different reasons...LOL!)
That comparison's about as lucid as Britney Spears at the end of a court-scheduled custody visit...
Autigerman said:
posted on January 4, 2008 3:11 PM — 129.61.46.16 — link — abuse?
For the first time since 2004 the talk has been about the Auburn offense.
Even with the great players on that offense not much was spoken of them compared to our defense.
That all changed Monday night. Prehaps Muschamp doesnt want to take a back seat to Franklin.
If somehow we were to win the SEC title next year all the credit would go to the new offense.
I think we are going to be fine. Lots of talent coming back.
I also think he will do great in Texas. He is a rare talent. And they are recruiting some great young defensive players.
Much of our recruiting effort has gone to the offense since hiring Franklin
posted on January 4, 2008 3:22 PM — link — abuse? said:
@Neville - Great point. Horns keep the #1 guy away from their rival (if OU was inclined to look, which I don't think Stoops would do to BV, just sayin).
@OU Fan - Oops. You said it better than I did and
earliersooner. ((pun))@Autigerman - Did you see the part about the Jimbo Fisher-esque deal? Supposedly UT will pay him a balloon payment if he is not the Longhorns head coach in a few years. Still haven't seen those details confirmed, but it certainly makes since given Muschamps other offers, as you noted.
@All - **PLEASE** with the SEC S.O.S. talk. Ugh. I have blood pouring out of my ear. ;)
Tomcat said:
posted on January 4, 2008 3:23 PM — 70.242.185.82 — link — abuse?
@31 TE is obviously totally ignorant when it comes to the game of college football.College coaches like Mack Daddy Brown have their records speak for themselves.
11-2
11-2
10-3
11-1
13-0
10-3
10-3
The guy must me doing something right 7-10 win seasons in a row, 4 straight bowl wins 6 outa the last 7 bowls including wins over Wash,LSU,USC,Iowa, Mich
You need to understand that football is a team sport and no one individual player can do anything without the others playing to their potential.
How many times has Les Miles beat Brown? 0
Brown has outcoached Miles everytime
Hookem-HornsNeville said:
posted on January 4, 2008 3:41 PM — 70.164.69.146 — link — abuse?
OU Fan #5 - I agree that this was not on Stoops' radar, but my point was it should have been. By the way, I would never advocate forcing Stoops to get rid of Venables or anyone else for that matter(they work well together, Brent is an excellent coach, etc).
Everyone is in general agreement that there needs to be some more emotion, especially on the defensive side of the ball in Norman, and Will Muschamp is a lightning rod of emotion. I like it so much how he greets the Auburn players after they come off the field after a big stop and his on field presence in general.
OU has worked magic before with Venables and Mike Stoops as co-defensive coordinators, and I just thought Venables- Muschamp would be a way to draw some new blood into the OU coaching staff and be a focus for energy and excitement. Now that exact same energy and excitement OU needs will be down in Austin. That's what hurts.
OU Fan said:
posted on January 4, 2008 4:21 PM — 84.146.38.120 — link — abuse?
Sometimes, I think TE forgets that Lester Miles is the head coach for a team who is located in a state that has a ton of football talent. TE, I have grandparents, neither are from Louisiana but both of them have been working in the Louisiana education system for about 20 years. One is a retired professor from ULM and the other is a retired teacher/superintendent from the Ouchita Parish school district. They both reside in Monroe. TE, I have attended a couple of West Monroe Rebel football games. I have friends military and civilian whom reside in Louisiana. There is one common factor between all of them: They all LOVE LSU. From what I noticed, everyone in the state of Louisiana loves LSU. Louisiana Tech, Lafayette, Tulane, and ULM are no competition when competing for recruits against LSU. I don't have statistics to prove this, but I say this on my obersvations and my interactions with Louisiana residents during the many, many times that I have stayed and visited in Louisiana. So in my opinion the bottom line is this: Les Miles is the head coach for a school where every high school football stud in Louisiana dreams to attend. That makes his job very easy. Also, I looked up the roster for LSU this season. There was one common word that I found: Senior. It will be interesting to see how LSU does next season. But first, they have to beat Ohio State. This is all my opinion. Now excuse me, I have to go woop my wife in a game of Wii sports bowling. BOOMER SOONER!
posted on January 4, 2008 4:48 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Good point, OU Fan. LSU does benefit from being the big pony in a one-horse state. Although there are four 1-A schools in Louisiana, there's really only one that counts. There's no counterweight to balance out Baton Rouge getting first pick of all the home-grown talent. Not like there is in smaller states Mississippi and Alabama.
Other Southern states have at least two major teams, too, including Georgia, Florida, S.Carolina, N.Carolina, and Virginia. Louisiana, Tennessee, and R-Kansas get off a little easier. Would you include Oklahoma as a state that has a counterweight to OU--OK State?
Boy, that Wii bowling is the crack-cocaine of the video world, huh?
TE
posted on January 4, 2008 4:49 PM — 204.68.245.11 — link — abuse? said:
OU Fan...
Hmmm...
We lose our corners, Steltz, Highsmith, & Dorsey off of our defense...
We play nothing but safeties in the nickel & dime, so we have plentyof experienced talent to replace them with...Taylor is a beast, and Chad Jones was Freshman All-American...So, don't cry for me, Argentina...
At corner, we've got the best player in America at his position coming out of HS three years ago in Jai Eugene (whom we stole from Carr) and Phelon Jones & Chris Hawkins, the #1 corners in their state the year they committed...
At linebacker, Beckwith returns, as does Cutrera, and while it could be a dropoff, I don't see much of one...
We'll be stronger on the Defensive Line...Call me crazy...But, we'll be stronger...We go 12 deep on the ends and at tackle...We'll return 4 starters next year, since Charles Alexander will return from a simple ACL tear (not a complete rip, I mean)...
On offense...we lose our worst offensive in Carnell Stewart, and that's it...
At wideout, we lose a guy who wasn't around a lot this year in Early...and Hester at TB, and if you knew ANYTHING about our two-deep there, you'd know that will be addition by subtraction, as most agree that our most talented tailbacks line up behind Jacob, though he's an absolute gamer.
Oh...Did I mention that our backup quarterback this year started and won the SEC Championship Game? Or that he's a sophomore...Or that he's far more athletic, strong-armed, and versatile than the guy who got us to the National Title Game?
Oh, I didn't forget to mention that before? Well...Just a reminder, then...
posted on January 4, 2008 6:55 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Looks like it's official. Muschamp has resigned and will take the Texas job. Someone mentioned that Ed Orgeron was looking for a job. I don't think he was ever a DC, but wasn't his specialty supposed to be defense?
Might be fun to have the crazy Cajun switching places with the hyperactive Muschamp.
West Coast Willie said:
posted on January 4, 2008 6:57 PM — 74.93.5.150 — link — abuse?
TE did I say that I was a Paw Paw? Didn’t think so. One thing that I have noticed, you don’t take criticism well.
Are you like uh 2nd in command on this forum?
If your team should be lucky enough to win on the 7th, you'll be really hard to handle.
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on January 4, 2008 7:46 PM — 192.94.94.105 — link — abuse? said:
@39 was gonna throw my $0.02 in, but you did it well enough for me. I don't see how you can possibly dog a coach who has accomplished what barely any other teams in that era have.
Plus since LSU is in the National Championship all the fans wanna come out of the woodwork and claim how great their team and school is which is normal. But before 2003 where were the national titles, the Heismans? The things that really judge how great your school is over time?
Zac said:
posted on January 4, 2008 9:48 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
WarEagle (Post 26), Jon Tenuta, yeah, ya better grab him before ND does. Rodriguez is also said to be interested in having him come to MI. This just might come down to who's got the most money. If I were Tuberville, I'd look among the Div-2 ranks and try to pick up a serious up-and-comer. If there's a lower tier team with a successful defense, imagine how successful that DC would be leading your boys. Just a thought. (Did you say you got a Volvo wagon? Hot damn!!!)
Bevo Boy (Post 32), AR did not loose to LSU this year; they beat LSU 50-48 in 3 OT's on 11/23. AR lost to Bama 41-38 on 9/15. (It doesn't change the point you were making, but it is more accurate.)
Tomcat (Post 39), some people don't really understand the meaning of success. By the way, don't forget a number of those wins were against OK. (I know. How could I expect you to forget that?)
Kev (Post 47), I thought Gator Hippy was the genius.
TE, if you guys get your SEC Fanblogs, can I come in and visit once in a while.
Tomcat said:
posted on January 4, 2008 9:53 PM — 69.153.80.147 — link — abuse?
Hey Kev sounds like you and ole TE have a little history.I really have nothing against the guy, some of his post like #46 are knowledgable and others like post #31 are just plain ignorant, uninformed, opionated stupidity. A mediocre coach does not have 7- 10 win seasons in a row.
I really like LSU and the great state of La, I'm glad that yall get a shot at OSU, however I beleive that Texas would give yall a better game.
Hookem-HornsBevo Boy said:
posted on January 4, 2008 10:33 PM — 207.200.116.5 — link — abuse?
Tomcat, also, Mack Brown is a total of 103-25 (.805) at Texas. Since TE is the one complaining about him, let's compare him to Les Miles. At Ok. St.: 28-21 (.571), that way you can see how they did in the same division of the Big XII. Now, looking at these head-to-head stats, who wouldn't pick Brown over Miles?
Tomcat said:
posted on January 4, 2008 11:05 PM — 69.153.80.147 — link — abuse?
Ya Kev, your right
Bevo Boy good points
over last 7 years
Brown 76-14
Miles 61-27
Texas all time record
UT vs LSU 9-7-1
UT vs OK st 20-2
UT vs Bama 7-0-1
UT vs Ark 55-21
UT vs AU 5-3
UT vs Miss 5-1
Texas Bowl record 24-21-2
LSU bowl record 19-18-1
Miles record at OK St
4-7
8-5
9-4
7-5
His best year was 9 wins
Browns worst year in 10 years was 9 wins
Hookem-HornsWest Coast Willie said:
posted on January 4, 2008 11:43 PM — 74.93.5.150 — link — abuse?
Tomcat it's hard to argue with your points. Seeing how this TE character loves getting the last word, (see his many posts on this forum), I would say that he will find a way to refute, justify and crucify all in the same post.
Would love to see LSU having to face Texas.
I think this will be a year remembered for no clear cut college champion regardless of what happens in the BCS Championship game. Personally I have zero respect for the BCS.
Tomcat said:
posted on January 5, 2008 1:42 AM — 69.153.80.147 — link — abuse?
@67 Hey Kev maybe yall could start up a I love Les Miles forum and make ole TE the moderator.
He could run down and take jabs at everyone except Tiger fans and could brag about SEC S.O.S. all the time.
Where's Tommie T ?
shout out to coondawg1 how bout them Broncos & Warriors ?
Hookem-BuckeyesZac said:
posted on January 5, 2008 11:04 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Got it, Kev!
TE, where ever you are, you're all right; it's the world that's all wrong. Rock on!
Bevo Boy (#61), I do the same thing all the time when researching stuff for this site. When I was trying to determine wins and losses throughout an aggregate schedule, I'd count 3 or 4 times and still get it wrong. (Calculus has ruined my basic math skills.)
Tomcat, you being the "all informed" especially when it comes to TX and all, when was the last time TX had a loosing season, or failing in that, didn't have a winning season (finished 6-6)?
Tomcat said:
posted on January 5, 2008 1:45 PM — 70.242.185.82 — link — abuse?
# 69 Zac Texas only losing season in the last 47 years was 1997 4-7, that was Macovicks last year prior to Brown's arrival. Zac they have all the stats & records at www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com . Brown has restored the winning tradition that is Texas football, he learned alot from coach Bowden and others.
Texas will be a force to be reckoned with, year after year. Now with another good DC and some of the best recruits in the country, the future is so bright that I have to wear shades.
Hookem-Hornswvu_lifer
posted on January 5, 2008 2:11 PM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
Just had to give my .02cents. 1) I can feel the love in here, lol. 2) For the record, WVU has beaten an SEC,ACC and now Big XII elite in 3 straight Jan. bowl games, why no love for the Big East? As much as i HATE to say it, OSU is the ONLY team from the Big 10(11) that could compete in the SEC. OH has it's share of HS studs as well as eastern OH boarders Western PA, and we all know about the western PA football machines! Oh, i say some one mentioning states with 2 BCS schools, ya forgot PA. Pitt and Penn St. Anyways, as an outsider, admit it....... The SEC and Big XII are pretty equal, i can't see a "winner" in that argument. Ok, i'm done!
Porky said:
posted on January 5, 2008 2:29 PM — 75.89.102.61 — link — abuse?
Post 74 Shirley you can't be serious?
It's obvious that Texas is so scared of Arkansas that not only do hey go and get somebody who has faced Arkansas, but also has coached with Petrino. You guys can come clean. I won't tell.
wvu_lifer
posted on January 5, 2008 6:50 PM — 75.109.107.108 — link — abuse? said:
I remeber when TX and Ark was a huge rival, what happened? Oh, the conference jumble, no more SWC! War Eagle Atlanta, Roger, Roger........but i am serious. SEC and BigXII are both nice, in football. None hold a candle to the ACC and Big East in basketball! K, b4 UF'ers get outta control on me, yes 2 in a row was sweet. I'm babbling basketball, sorry. I don't see kids afraid of playin kids in football, so is it the admins of TX/ARK that don't want you guys to play?
Bevo Boy said:
posted on January 5, 2008 8:17 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Porky, setting up the games doesn't do you any good if you can't win them. Arnkansas will limp on back to Little Rock and that game will be referred to as "The Austin Massacre", but I don't think there will be a Tea Party.
Tomcat said:
posted on January 5, 2008 9:44 PM — 69.153.80.147 — link — abuse?
Hey Porky-What happened in yalls bowl?
What happened in the one before that?
Ya thats right, yall got beat
What happened in Texas last 4 bowls? all wins
Last time we had Texas vs Ark home & home series the visiting team won both times, same thing happened with the Texas vs Ohio St series.
The Longhorns have only beaten the Hogs 55 times so I guess they are shaking in their boots-ya right. I like to see these old rivalries and look foward to next years game in Austin
Hookem-HornsZac said:
posted on January 5, 2008 11:44 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Bevo & TC, thanks for the info. I didn't know it had been as recent as only 10 years ago. I can only imagine it's likely been quite a few years since the next loosing season prior to '97.
I didn't even know WVU had played TX. I swear; I didn't know it. Looks like we'll have to figure a way to play at least once more to see if TX can pull even. Of course, after that will have to be the rubber match followed by... Oh lets just see if we can get at least one more.
posted on January 7, 2008 4:38 PM — link — abuse? said:
Texas is 5-5 all-time against KState....
W 11-18-1913 46 Austin, TX 0
L 10-02-1926 3 Manhattan, KS 13
W 11-11-1927 41 Austin, TX 7
W 09-26-1942 64 Austin, TX 0
L 09-19-1998 7 Manhattan, KS 48
L 10-02-1999 17 Austin, TX 35
W 10-19-2002 17 Manhattan, KS 14
W 10-04-2003 24 Austin, TX 20
L 11-11-2006 42 Manhattan, KS 45
L 09-29-2007 21 Austin, TX 41More Texas opponents...
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/big12/texas/opponents.php
Porky said:
posted on January 8, 2008 8:33 AM — 75.89.104.208 — link — abuse?
Can't take a joke, huh? Bevo, you said Arkansas can't win them, well they have before. I was silent because I went to catch the beginning of the Baylor game, which we won. Soon after I wen't to bed becaue I start work at 4 a.m.. Yea Texas has 55 wins, but texas went about 30-5 up to the mid 50's, which really skews the series. Too many times Arkansas has no clue what's going on, which explains most of their bad games.
Bevo Boy said:
posted on January 8, 2008 4:28 PM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Porky, that would still make Texas's record vs. Ark. since then 25-16. I'm not sure how having no clue can be seen as a good thing because that means that the coaches don't know how to prepare the players for their big games.
Kevin, thanks for the website. I couldn't find one that nice or up-to-date.
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FanoftheGame said:
posted on January 4, 2008 9:34 AM — 198.211.223.194 — link — abuse?This is a great hire for Texas. I don't think its anywhere near the second coming of Christ, as the article seems to suggest, but a big hire nonetheless.
To assume this will automatically move the Longhonrs to the top of the Big12 is a little pompous as well. I mean, is it really just as simple as hiring the best DC they could get? Why then hasn't Auburn been on top of the SEC all this time? Mack has an edge in recruiting, but Tommy should have the edge in coaching. Lets face it, UT's most success came when Mack stepped back and let Vince do things his way.
This really is a great hire for the Longhonrs, but if anyone is serving notice in the Big12 its the rest of the conference. UT's seasons have usually been a cake walk and and OU road block. The Cake Walk may be over, at least for a little while and the Road Block aint going anywhere either. I think this hire is a result of Texas being put on notice by the rest of the Big12.
Congrats to Texas, Mizzou, Tech and Kansas on huge Bowl wins.