September 24, 2006
Texas Tech does what it does best - beat cupcakes
Mike Leach and Texas Tech have spent the last few years climbing onto the national radar. Despite their increased profile, I have never given the Red Raiders much praise. Relatively to the box score pundits and scheme advocates, I've never given Tech any credit at all.
Well, listen up, Texas Tech. I owe you an apology, because Leach's Raiders are very good at something.
Texas Tech is one of the best teams in the country when it comes to beating up cupcakes and tomato cans. There's not a DIAA team in the country that the Red Raiders couldn't hang half-a-hundred on.
Case in point: Texas Tech 62, Southeastern Louisiana 0
But what happens when Tech plays upper-crust competition? More often than not, the Red Raiders faint.
Before you blast me, Texas Tech fans, face the truth.
Last year, Tech ranked fourth in the country in scoring (39.4 PPG) with 473 points for. Of that 473, 199 came against three cupcakes (FIU, Sam Houston, and Indiana State). Forty-two percent of Leach scoring machine was fueled on three cupcakes.
By contrast, since the start of last season, Tech has managed a whopping 30 points combined in three games against Texas, Alabama, and TCU.
Tech starts the Big XII conference schedule next week, so --for the most part-- cupcake season is over. It will be interesting to see where the 3-1 Red Raiders (138 PF this year in four games) finish the year.
Can Texas Tech change its stripes and stop losing to big time opponents? Only time will tell. In the meantime, enjoy the "win" over Southeastern Louisiana, Tech fans.
Comments:
cody said:
posted on September 24, 2006 3:36 PM — 72.64.102.48 — link — abuse?
I get tired of that stupid argument. Every good team beats up on inferior opponents, and has closer games with equal or greater opponents.
Fact is, good defenses stop good offenses better than bad defenses do. Why is this so surprising to people?
Kyle said:
posted on September 24, 2006 3:40 PM — 70.179.130.120 — link — abuse?
So your going to take our worst 3 games in subsequent seasons and use them to make a point? UT was the #1 team in the nation, Tech's second string QB played the entire second half against SE LA. What are we supposed to do, kneel the ball on every offensive play and give them a chance? Maybe you should go after a team like A&M or Colorado, teams who don't have the ability to win handily against "lesser" opponents
Tech Fan & Student said:
posted on September 24, 2006 3:50 PM — 68.110.134.12 — link — abuse?
Hey OU fan, how bout last year against OU (when they had Peterson)? (Other examples from last year: 56-17 vs A&M, and Nebraska 70-10 in '04, their worst loss in school history, Nebraska 34-31 in '05, TCU 70-35 in '04, etc.). Cal is just a good example of how much better the Big 12 is than the Pac-10. I don't know why Kevin ignored those games and just mentioned some of the only games we lost recently.
posted on September 24, 2006 4:49 PM — link — abuse?Kevin Donahue said:
#2 - Didn't call them cupcakes. Mid-level last season, but certainly not cupcakes.
#6 - My point, and I'll concede that I didn't state it clearly, was to call into question Tech's reputation as a "scoring machine" or powerhouse offense (what I have called "pinball offense" many times. Tech gets a lot of credit for being one of the 'high octane' teams in the country, but I think a lot of the pundits see the SE LA type games, which is just half the story. The Paul Harvey element is that -- when the going gets tough -- Tech's 'firepower' leaves something to be desired.
AgRyan04 said:
posted on September 24, 2006 5:01 PM — 72.181.60.135 — link — abuse?
What baffles me is that it gets tech into the polls.
In '05 tech was 4-0 against FIU, Sam Houston State, Indiana State, and Kansas. That was all it took to be ranked #13 in the nation.
This year tech is 3-1 against SMU, UTEP, TCU (L), & SE Louisiana and that's good enough for #24.
Apparently its better to go 4-0 against 4 bad teams than 3-0 against bad teams and 0-1 against good team.
Also, the '05 OU game should, in no way, be pointed to as evidence of greatness.
ttrraider said:
posted on September 24, 2006 5:42 PM — 70.244.162.36 — link — abuse?
Hint: Tech hasn't won 3 bowl games and won 8 or more games the last 4 years because of their defense. Good offenses get shut down all the time when they play poorly. UT gets 7 at home against OSU. LSU gets 3 against Auburn. They both have better talent than Tech (according to the experts).
You have a point about their recent play, but look at the body of work over an extended period and your point wouldn't seem reasonable. This team has scored 40+ points on UT twice in the last 5 years, for example. They hung 49 on a 9-3 Ole Miss team on the road. They got 70 on Neb and TCU in 2004 and then came back with 34 on Neb on the road last year. They've scored 48-59 points on A&M in 3 of the last 4 years. In 2004, Tech scored 45 on a 10-1 Cal team. They scored 55 on Clemson. Most of this has been done without a dominant defense that provided consistently good field position.
The reasons vary for Tech's recent issues. QB play has not been to past standards, for example. Hodges was a good, certainly not great QB. Harrell is inexperienced at this point. The good news is that we have a stockpile of great QB prospects waiting their turn and Harrell will get better.
To your other point, our non-conference schedule has not been that easy except for last year. In 2002, we played 4 bowl teams in the pre-season including the National Champion. In 2003, we played 3 bowl teams. In 2004, we played 1. This year, we're playing 2 bowl teams from last year, both on the road. We have scored plenty against good or bad teams, but you are correct to point out we haven't been able to do it every game. If that makes Tech offense a fraud, then you have a great point.
OU Fan said:
posted on September 24, 2006 6:25 PM — 72.161.218.78 — link — abuse?
Tech Fan, I remember that game well. Thats when Tech's RB scored a touchdown, but the video footage showed that he actually did not score a touchdown, but the refs gave it to him anyways. I remember it well. Also, Texas Tech fans, last seasons Cotton Bowl was the most boring bowl game I have ever seen. Alabama's defense ate the Red Raiders alive, just like the Sooners will do to the Red Raiders this season in Norman!!! Go Sooners!! Peterson for Heisman!!!!
posted on September 24, 2006 7:43 PM — link — abuse?
#11 - Fair enough. Tech's offense isn't a "fraud", but Tech does get a lot of headlines on relatively mediocre wins.
You may feel that substantial wins over Nebraska (who went 5-6) or TCU (another 5-6 team) prove you point, but I really believe that it reinforces that my point - Tech pounds bad teams.
Tech's signature win of the Mike Leach era --in my opinion -- was the 45-31 win over Cal. You mentioned the 2003 Mississippi win, another quality win for Tech.
Thank you for conceding my point on the last two seasons. I haven't done the research, but you may be right - if you take a larger sample, there may be a case that Tech pounds quality teams.
posted on September 24, 2006 7:46 PM — link — abuse?
#8 - I'm sure Tech players, coaches, and fans (except for a few of you) could give a flying flip what I think. I'll give you that. Also, I'm not in/from Fort Worth. The folks that have been with us since the beginning know my loyalties and they aren't to Texas teams.
Regan said:
posted on September 24, 2006 9:10 PM — 208.104.83.149 — link — abuse?
Sorry, Texas Tech fans, but I'm right on with Kevin on this one. Leach has for years had the pass-happy offense, and there's nothing wrong with that. Leach's problem is simple sportsmanship IMHO. The simple fact is that he never reigns it in and tries to run up the score on obviously inferior opponents - say 80 points against Sam Houston State (9/17/05).
All kinds of excuses can be presented, my favorites are:
a) Leach is just running his offense.
b) A DIA team is expected to blow out a DIAA team.and the absolute funniest:
c) No excuse, just being an idiot (Example: Defender of Red, post #5)
In the 2002 Tangerine Bowl, it wasn't enough to beat a Clemson team by a score of 55-15, but Leach kept the starting QB in the entire game.
Since 2001, Texas Tech has racked up 50+ points on 16 occasions; and in seven of these 16, over 60 points. Three were 70+, and then there was the Sam Houston State 80 point blowout.
To be honest, I really don’t care how the Red Raiders do against good teams – there is no excuse for such excessive orgies of offense. Once a team is up by 50, they really don’t need to even bother passing. Handing the ball to a guy and having him run is not complicated.
Leach has got to be compensating for something, IMHO. I sincerely hope this team is abused by 80+ points every time they take the field. Anyone who enjoys playing for such a coach deserves nothing less, IMHO.
Sorry if I upset anyone, but college sports is about so many more noble things than just scoring points; I feel very strongly on the issue. If you disagree, that’s fine - you’re not wrong. No name calling needed. :)
The simple fact is that we all know what the deal is – please no one get too offended if we state the obvious…
T-Mac said:
posted on September 25, 2006 12:02 AM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
Kevin Donahue,you say in post #9 that you never used the word cupcakes. How is that? The name Kevin Donahue is at the top of this thread where it clearly says" posted by". The term cupcakes is used at least 3 times in your post Mr Donahue. I'm not even a Texas Tech fan,but I'm at a loss on this one! (Texas Tech is one of the best teams in the country when it comes to beating cupcakes and tomato cans). Those are exact words from what you printed at the heading of this thread. Yet,you say in post #9 that you never called their competition cupcakes. Like I said,I'm not even a TT fan,but I don't understand why you choose to go after them and call their competition cupcakes and tomato cans. It clearly says posted by Kevin Donahue. You deny ever using the term cupcakes. Do you stand by what you print/post? Enlighten me Sir! T-Mac
TTFAN said:
posted on September 25, 2006 1:31 AM — 24.175.88.124 — link — abuse?
Wow.....Kevin, I would think that you would expect any of the Big 12 teams to dominate the obviously weaker teams....Correct...If the Big 12 teams lost to a div 1 aa team that would provide much fodder for the news media, (I can only imagine....I feel for the Colorado Fans)...Also, I can't believe that you are still talking about a schedule that happened last year, which is similar to the A&M schedule this year. Yet, A&M has not dominated these obviously Fran Friendly games. As to OU Fan, if OU was dominating Tech then Tech would never of had the opportunity to even run the infamous last play.
Also, while tech in the past has been tagged with the name typical tech, the tides are turning. Leach has been able to take average recruits and make them competitive, except for the VY Longhorns which is now over. I can only imagine what the sports writers would say if Tech had the same quality recruits for the defensive side of the ball as Texas has had.
As far as running up the score, Leach pulled the first string quarter back just after the start of halftime, then the second string and third string both had playing time, as well as the entire depth chart on offense and defense.I agree that the loss to TCU and Alabama were not great moments in recent tech history. While I am not a coach, I would have pulled Cody in the Alabama game because he was injured and gone with the second string quarterback. As far as the TCU game, I would have put in the second string quarterback too. But Leach has essentially stated that the only position he will not rotate is the QB position. Everyone who played Texas lost last year, hence the NC. I believe the biggest farse in college football is not Tech, but the over-rated Notre Dame. They get a lot praise because they can bring the media dollars to the table....could you say bias.
Kevin....I hope you are correct though in comparing the upcoming games to the SE LA game. I hope that the rest of teams are better than SE LA, but it is difficult to tell with A&M's schedule, the way baylor is playing, and the fact colorado has not shown up for a game (almost with GA)
TTURedRaider said:
posted on September 25, 2006 2:44 AM — 24.255.76.19 — link — abuse?
Regan,
You need to do better research.
Vs Sam Houston
The backup QB was in for the second series of the 3rd quarter. He could of let Taurean stay in there and get the all-time TD record instead he pulled him. USC kept Lendale White in a blowout win to get him the USC rushing TD record.By the way Daughtery the backup QB is why Tech kept scoring. He transfered from Tech because he would never start to SHS and led them on two scoring drives and was talking smack to our players.
We used... 3 QBs, 3 RBs and 2 WR ran the ball on designed plays/ 2 QB scrambled, and 14 players caught receptions.
Vs Indiana State the 1st Team offense didn't play after the 2nd Quarter and were in street clothes in the 4th. Which got him praise for the opposing head coach.
Tangerine Bowl... BJ Symon the backup got in the game around the 8 min mark in the 4th.
posted on September 25, 2006 8:48 AM — link — abuse?
T-Mac - If you'll read my comment, I was answering a comment above to clarify that I did not call certain Big XII schools (Nebraska, KSU, Kansas, OU and A&M) cupcakes. I did say & explain that Texas Tech runs up the score on lower-tier schools and DII competition --- ie cupcakes.
raiderinloneoak said:
posted on September 25, 2006 12:49 PM — 206.103.108.177 — link — abuse?
To add to the point #21 stated. Tech, in most situations does bring its back ups in whenever they have built an insurmountable lead...what is inurmountable? In the NFL this weekend the Giants put up 27 in the final quarter. I personally wish Leach had more of a running game...but he uses the 3 to 5 yard out pattern as his running game...so yes he passes...but that is his offense. Most teams that the Raiders have pelted have not complained that they felt they were running up the score.
Regan said:
posted on September 25, 2006 3:22 PM — 208.104.83.149 — link — abuse?
TTURedRaider (#21):
As far as the personnel issue, I remember a big to-do about Kingsbury being in long after victory was assured for the purposes of the recordbooks.
In general though, as far as the personnel issue goes, if I am wrong about that then I concede that one point of my rant. It wasn't research as much as memory, so you probably are correct.
I do know that the passing attack continued, at least during the Tangerine Bowl, however, and stand by the remainder of my points.
Either way, I appreciate you not blasting me for my rather extreme opinion on the matter; I realize it is a bit of a staunch position I take on perceived running-up-the-score in college football - thanks for being objective and not flaming me :)
Justin said:
posted on September 25, 2006 3:50 PM — 70.238.203.41 — link — abuse?
Everybody beats up on inferior teams. At least they should want to. This season, the former national champions knocked around North Texas, Rice and they are going to destroy Sam Houston State this week. Not a word is said about Texas' big wins over laughable opponents.
Josh in Dallas said:
posted on September 25, 2006 4:21 PM — 134.67.6.11 — link — abuse?
Kevin: while I might disagree with you, I like that you're throwing out an HSO. Unfortunately, it seems like you're taking Gerry Fraley's argument from last week (and updating it for the win over SELA). At least give Fraley some credit.
Here's his article:Just Venting: Tech difficulties
Leach's offense racks up the points - vs. inferior opponents
10:17 PM CDT on Monday, September 18, 2006
The offense of deep-thinking Texas Tech coach Mike Leach runs up points against tomato cans and faints when matched against quality teams.
Tech ranked fourth in Division I for scoring last season with 39.4 points per game. Of Tech's 473 points for the season, 199 came against cupcakes Florida International, Sam Houston State and Indiana State.
Consider three other games since the start of last season. Tech had 30 points total in losses to Texas, Alabama and TCU.
Yes, Leach has revolutionized the college game.
It's not every coach who can find a means of producing all of 30 points in three games against ranked teams.
rhs said:
posted on September 25, 2006 4:24 PM — 67.174.167.63 — link — abuse?
OU is the only team in the Big 12 Texas Tech hasn't hung 40 or more points on since Leach came to Tech.
Texas Tech hung 40 or more twice on Mack Brown led Longhorn teams.
Texas Tech hung 50 or more on Oklahoma State, Baylor, Missouri, Texas A&M, Iowa State, TCU, Nebraska, and Kansas State.
Two high profile QBs recruited to Tech, Jason Winn from California and Philip Daughtery from Bridgeport, TX, didn't pan out and we had capable, but not great QBs the last two seasons. We are back to good QBs, and the one now is learning and had a bad game in Fort Worth. It is a little early to write him off, but if you feel the need to, be my guest. His backup is a RS FR with 10,000 yards in HS. We are RS a very productive 6'5, 210 QB from Abilene and have a good QB from Arkansas in this class. So if a couple don't pan out, we are in much better shape.
Texas Tech will win six or seven Big 12 teams this year and people will find a way to say they were lucky to do it.
Since Tech hired Leach, only Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Colorado have won more Big 12 games than Texas Tech. Since the 2002 season, only Texas and Oklahoma have won more Big 12 games.
For the life of the Big 12, only Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Kansas State, and Colorado have more Big 12 wins and Tech will pass Colorado this season. Maybe even Kansas State.
Tech hasn't won the Big 12 yet, but Tech has never had a losing season or stunk up the Big 12 before. In fact, Tech is the only team in the Big 12 to have a winning season every year.
Tomcat said:
posted on September 25, 2006 8:18 PM — 68.89.137.96 — link — abuse?
In this day and age sometimes it is difficult to schedule great quality opponents for every game.Texas will be playing SHSU this Sat and you have another thread about Auburn not being able to schedule for 07.When asked about the SHSU game last year Coach Brown, said they had trouble finding somebody willing to play the Horns early.
At least TTech did play a tough game in Ft. Worth against TCU. This week they will travel to Aggieland.We will see what A&M lookks like this weekend.
Also keep in mind that some of these early season games are scheduled many years in advance.
I dont think I would ever use the tearm cupcake to describe a team.Example a 1-3 Baylor can kick your butt, or how about 4-0 Houston Cougars beating Ok St.Playing the Canes this weak.How bout those sorry Buffs 8 game lossing streak almost upset a top ten Geo,or a 0-4 Rice Owls that gave UCLA a scare.
UTEP, TCU, A&M are not cupcakes, and neither is SMU look what happened to TCU last year.
I love to pull for underdogs.
Go Cougars beat MiamiT-Mac said:
posted on September 25, 2006 9:24 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
VOLPIMP,What's Crackin my man???Nah,not avoidin nobody bro.You damn straight I'll hold it down.I'll hold onto that rock and get in that end zone!I've handled a few punt returns in my day also.Just to let ya know.PEACE T-Mac
DaveRaider said:
posted on September 25, 2006 9:30 PM — 70.143.45.224 — link — abuse?
OU Fan,
#12 "I remember that game well. Thats when Tech's RB scored a touchdown, but the video footage showed that he actually did not score a touchdown".
Pretty good revisionist history. Come on over and watch the video with someone other than a OU homer.
HE SCORED!!! GAME OVER!!!!
...better yet... try, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10L-zyCaHGA
D said:
posted on September 25, 2006 9:54 PM — 4.227.154.122 — link — abuse?
Were you not impressed when Tech beat you OU fan? Cue the bad call excuses OU is so good at. I am pretty sure I saw something about Tech ending up with the 10th hardest schedule last year. I don't think Texas Tech is one of the best teams in the nation right now, but they are a lot better than they have been given credit over the past 4-5 years. Look at last weekend's Big XII scoreboard. Were those hard teams that A&M, OU, UT, Nebraska played?
T-Mac said:
posted on September 25, 2006 10:38 PM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
Coach VOLPIMP,that's tough.I'll get it in there for the score.No doubt!I can tote that rock coach!Don't put So Cal in though.He likes to talk so much the other team will know the exact play we are gonna run before the snap.Bla dow...Coach PIMP,what ya got for TENN @ Memphis this week?I got it Tenn-42 Memphis-24 T-Mac #1 stunna
VOLPIMP said:
posted on September 25, 2006 11:06 PM — 208.0.27.10 — link — abuse?
I went to KTown for the game, offense looked good, Ainge was pretty accurate. D still had run troubles. I figure Mempho will play us tough, 28 - 17, something like that, maybe. Gimme some measurements and a number you want for the game, might even give you some dreads.
T-Mac said:
posted on September 26, 2006 12:02 AM — 66.78.161.35 — link — abuse?
VOLPIMP,I think Coach Cut has Memphis number being at UT so long and at Ole Miss too.28-17 is a good score.I just think Tenn will get going you know.Right at 6'and 1/4" I think.Somethin like that.My weight has been going between 216-219 depending on what time of day and what I eat.4.45 speed.Not the best in the world,but considering what I did to my knee I'll take it.Number 25 is all good.I would go with #1,but being a tailback how much sh*t would you get for playing with that number?With my level of play it wouldn't matter,but you know how it is.You can hook me up with dreads.It's all good.T-Mac #1 stunna
What??? said:
posted on September 26, 2006 9:36 AM — 129.118.55.31 — link — abuse?
Kevin,
My question is: What's your point? Too much hype? That's college football. There are plenty of so-called "perennial powerhouses" who automatically leap into the top 10 in any given year based on reputation alone to have mediocre seasons or drop off the face of the earth. Happens every year (OU comes to mind. Tenessee. Notre Dame. Michigan). Lopsided victories are also a staple of college play. Most teams are guilty. Tech has beaten some quality opponents and lost to others... sounds like a fairly typical season. As for rankings, wins are a boost -- no matter what the level of opponents. Rail against the rankings system if you have a beef... there is just no true way to gauge every team's strength; not every team matches up, so it's really a system of weighing apples against oranges and trying to find a balance.
And get your facts straight before you start blasting. Don't later admit to not doing your research. TCU was a shame. It shouldn't have happened. But come on... beating cupcakes? Who doesn't?raiderinloneoak said:
posted on September 26, 2006 5:30 PM — 206.103.108.177 — link — abuse?
Another thing to remember is that the Leach "running game" is a 5 yard pass play. If Tech is "running" the ball, they are short passes. Unless you think Tech should punt on first down...to give the oher team the ball back, how else should they play to not run up the score.
TrojanHorse said:
posted on September 27, 2006 10:55 AM — 155.104.37.17 — link — abuse?
When I think of TT I think of two things
1. Cupcakes
2. Gimmick OffenseA three spot against Baylor, quite impressive
TT I will say this for the RR's, you do have an impressive 1-AA record.
B12 > P10; this years head to head is showing that isn't it.
Raider Power said:
posted on September 27, 2006 3:22 PM — 199.43.32.28 — link — abuse?
TrojanHorse => First of all, Tech lost to TCU not Baylor, next, learn proper grammar.
The Big XII is having a down year as I agree your conference is stronger this year, but Big XII teams have beaten a Pac 10 opponents in 4 of the last 5 Holiday Bowl's & will probably do it this year. In fact, there is a good chance Cal will have its rematch against Tech.
If Tech runs such a gimmick offense, then why are so many schools trying to duplicate it?
TrojanHorse said:
posted on September 28, 2006 9:38 AM — 155.104.37.17 — link — abuse?
Raider Power
I stand corrected, TT it is. As for the proper grammer, when you figure it out, let me know but until then, I'm not taking advice from those who don't use it themselves.
Next, on the B12, How do you figure Cal vs. TT in the Holiday Bowl. As I understand it, the Holiday is P10 #2 (which should be Oregon if the season holds up as it currently shows) and the B12 #3. My best guess would be that the B12 would have the TX/OU winner 1 & 2 respectively and the B12 North Winner #3 if its NU or Mizzou. That would leave TT at best as #4 or the way I see this season going for the Red Raiders more like the 5th or even 6th selection.
Finally, Gimmicks are used by teams that can't compete in conventional ways. You may call this a spread offense, but I call it (at best) an extreme version of the spread to the point where its really a gimmick.
FanoftheGame said:
posted on September 29, 2006 1:51 PM — 12.43.234.14 — link — abuse?
THIS IS COLLEGE FOOTBALL! I am not TT fan. And I'm not a TT hater either. I could care less what type of offense you run or defensive scheme you choose to combat your opponents offense. Line up and play the game with whatever system you want as long as its within the rules of the game. I don't believe that any one system is better than any other. Do what you do best and compete. Whoever runs their own offensive and defensive schemes the best is usually going to come out on top. Thats why we get different results year in and year out even though the same two teams are playing with the same schemes they used last year. As far as running up the score goes- that's a personal opinion. Some see it as being poor sports and others see it as playing football for 4 full quarters. Unless we are going to implement a "Mercy" rule in college football then the teams are expected to compete for the entire game. A team getting beat 50 to 0 after 1,2 or 3 quarters has the option of forfeiting the game before it gets any worse, but we aren't likely to see that happen either. Sportsmanship usaully dictates when a coach pulls in the reins and lets off the gas during a game. However, they are still within the rules if they choose to keep the hammer down on their opponent. Personally, I feel that if you can't stand the thought of losing a game by 70 points without crying about the score, then maybe you should have never suited your team up to play the game in the first place. I prefer to watch both teams playing for the full 4 quarters regardless of the score. Blowouts create tension between teams - and that tension creats grudges. -Grudges make for anticipated rematches and eventual rivlaries - and thats college football.
raiderinloneoak said:
posted on September 29, 2006 4:47 PM — 206.103.108.177 — link — abuse?
#46...that was rather eloquently written. I wouldlike for trojan to explain what is a conventional offense. It seems to me that offenses and defenses continually evolve... The "spread" offense you refer to was considered a "gimmick" offense...yet it is still in existence because it works. Coaches try to use whatever strengths their teams have. Not all teams can pay their players...or choose to look the other ay when their players are cheating.
Tomcat said:
posted on September 29, 2006 6:01 PM — 68.89.137.96 — link — abuse?
Very well put Fan of the Game, I agree 100% last year the Horns averaged over 50 points per game and alot of freshman and third string guys got some game experience.70-3 blowout over the Buffs, if you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Hookem-Horns TTech goes into Kyle Feild this weekend,Cupcakes no blowout-maybe
Allen in Midland said:
posted on September 29, 2006 11:37 PM — 70.185.131.60 — link — abuse?
So what’s the verdict? Most teams (including UT & OU) run the score up on any opponent they get their hands on. Why would Tech be any different? Let’s see how well they do with Hicks in the game. They have not had their left side all-American candidate playing so far. With the wake up call Leach put on Filani and Robertson it could change the mentality and intensity the team plays at. Harell still needs to get the ball out of the pocket faster but I see this team ramping up much faster than most see it.
raiderinloneoak said:
posted on September 30, 2006 9:39 AM — 206.103.108.177 — link — abuse?
I hope you are right Allen. I think today's game will say a lot about where Tech stands this season. Graham Harrell is still in the learning process. I still say by the time his career is over that he will have the phenomenonal numbers. I would suggest if teams want to hit him in the mouth...they better do it this year while he s still learning because once he is developed, he s going to be tough.
MJ Thomas said:
posted on September 30, 2006 10:57 PM — 68.1.213.153 — link — abuse?
It is a great day to be a Tech fan. I am proud of the way we played and fought in the end. Harrell is young and has some issues with consistency, but he proved that he has the makings of a great quarterback. He is really humble and very gracious, and I thought Tech played with a lot of class today. It will go down in history as one of the great, great finishes between these two rivals. RAIDER POWER lives on!!!
Mark Conrad said:
posted on October 2, 2006 10:44 PM — 67.162.186.111 — link — abuse?
OU Fan. On post # 12: I too remember that game. I do not know where you went to school, however, did you know all the ball has to do was cross the front of the HUGE goal line? Did you know that? Not the pretty colors on the other side of the white painted line going across the field. Just to the front of that line. Use geometry and you will clearly see the ball is across the FRONT of the goal line. So how is it that you and all of zero u do not know this? I am just curious? The reason I say I do not know where you went to school is there are more people who did not even graduate from high school who say they are a ou fan. Can you say FRONT?
And Mr Donahue, I do not think a team which wins 8 or 9 games a year great, however, well deserve of a top 20. I also feel Tech could beat most teams out there. The sun just needs to shine just right on that dog's butt to do that, however, it could happen. I cannot wait for Mizzou. And yes TCU could play in the BIG 12, but it will not be as easy as they would think. Pirates beating soldiers...I kind of like that:) Thanks again Coach!OU Fan said:
posted on October 3, 2006 9:02 AM — 69.29.102.143 — link — abuse?
Mark Conrad, funny. Don't be mad at me because the Red Raiders will always be that team that has a winning season but will never make it to the national championship. I can't wait until Oklahoma State beats the Red Raiders again this season so I can hear people like you cry. I guess we'll always have are different opionions about that "infamous" play in the OU/Tech game and thats alright. Also, no more cup cakes for Tech this season because Mizzou is going to hand the Red Raiders their second loss. And buddy, I believe there would be more people in the state of Texas that have not graduated than in Oklahoma. Oklahoma's little 3.4 million population is nothing compared to Texas' 22.8 or whatever it is, which to me would make the high school drop out rate higher in Texas. And for your info, I have a high school diploma, an Associates Degree, I am prouldly serving my country, and I am getting ready to PCS to Germany and I can't f%cking wait!! Go Sooners!! Beat Texas!!
The Mayor said:
posted on October 3, 2006 11:50 AM — 24.23.202.200 — link — abuse?
OU
PCS to Germany?
Best of luck, I hope you'll be able to catch a few Sooner Games while you're back there.
I think it's an 8 hour time diffference so let's hope that your games are all day games for the rest of the year (except the Big 12 Championship and your Bowl Game).
Tomcat said:
posted on October 4, 2006 12:08 PM — 70.244.250.238 — link — abuse?
Hey OU fan.Looking foward to this weekends matchup.OU hates Texas.The Texas Longhorns will play a great game.I just hope that the Sooners fans dont wine and cry after the game.Hopefully the officials will be fair and impartial.Yall have had some bad calls.I saw that Tech game last year and I agree looked like his knee was down before the ball crossed the goaline, if it really crossed,or just edged real close.The fact remains that yall lost.If the game had not been so close that contraverseal play wouldnt have made any difference.
Looks like this weekend we have Big 8 vs SWC games
OU vs UT
A&M vs KU
Missu vs TTech
Baylor vs CU
Being an uneducated Texas guy I'll be pulling for the old SWC teams that includes Rice, Houston,and SMU. I can't pull for Ark,they hate us as bad as OU. Hookem-Horns Sicem-BearsOU Fan said:
posted on October 4, 2006 6:17 PM — 69.29.102.143 — link — abuse?
Tomcat, us OU fans do hate Texas(I am one of them). But I think that they have a sense of respect for them also, because I do. I think Horns fans are the same. Every year when its OU Texas, I never underestimate Texas. Last season, OU was young and had been playing very badly in the beginning of the season and I knew it was going to take a miracle for the Sooners to win. This year, I am more confident about the Sooners chances of winning. I mean why shouldn't I, you know. It will be a great game and will be evenly matched. Hopefully the Sooners will come to play and the people in Austin can drink the "OU Sucks" beer all they want. Go Sooners! Beat Texas!
CKTTU said:
posted on October 8, 2006 2:01 AM — 70.244.144.156 — link — abuse?
Wow, the you-tube clip #34 posted says it all! That is crazy. Whoever developed that clip took their time.
Um, lets see. Everyone is always hacking away at Texas Tech. Why? I promise you this. Tech has never "NEVER" been given too much attention or acknowledgement. If anything, we don't get enough. I noticed that someone mentioned the fact that we have mediocre talent. Yet, Mr. Mike Leach developed a way to turn these guys into superstars....so that we can beat teams that are stacked with a roster full of "5 star talent."
As for the fact that Leach likes to run up the score, I think Fanofthegame hit the nail on the head with his/her comments. Texas, Michigan, and Miami all beat up on lesser teams.
Lastly, if Mike Leach would have ended up coaching at any other school...say for example Oklahoma, since there are so many OU fans dying to talk trash...I have my doubts that you OU fans would turn in your Sooner jerseys just because your coach found an alternative means for winning. In reguards to that statement, i'm sure I'll get the old "OU would never accept a coach like Mike Leach haha! PATHETIC!"
AgGB said:
posted on October 11, 2006 4:33 PM — 66.76.78.194 — link — abuse?
tech should be a little bit leery of their coach running up scores against people b/c what goes around comes around. i mean against the D1AA schools, they are clearly the better team. i just wish that mack brown and bob stoops would run up the score against tech. of course, you'll never see it happen b/c those guys have more class than leach...and that's really saying something b/c bob stoops has very little class imo. so, tech, go roll your tortillas and stop trying to act like you're a great football team b/c you're not. you're recent success is based on an offense that was new and now that the good teams have seen it and made adjustments, you're now going to lose to the good teams again. just hope that they have mercy on you, though they really shouldnt.
i predict that tech will lose 5 games this year. they already lost to mizzu and tcu. it took a spectacular last minute play in college station to win against a struggling more or less coachless a&m. now they have to face the big XII schedule, which is never easy. i dont think they'll have any trouble with colorado, but then again, who has this year? of course, both ou and texas are going to pound tech into the ground. but i wouldnt be a bit surprised to see baylor slip up and beat tortilla tech, too. so tech will go 4 and 4 at best in conference play.
c-balls said:
posted on October 16, 2006 12:05 AM — 192.133.129.3 — link — abuse?
Seriously, FireMan....What is going on? In my opinion, our offense is more talented than it has been in several years as far as the receiving corps. I can't figure out why they are struggling so much. Graham Harrell has put up big numbers, but has really struggled in all 3 Tech losses this season. I am PISSED!!
David said:
posted on October 18, 2006 2:58 PM — 129.118.7.6 — link — abuse?
So what would you say about UT. This season they played Rice and Sam Houston State. Not exactly top tier teams. Does that mean that their season cant be seen as credible? of course not. thats the point of preseason "warm-up" games.
raiderinloneoak said:
posted on October 21, 2006 10:55 AM — 206.103.108.177 — link — abuse?
Ag...if you look back at the last couple of Texas wins...one could argue that they did run up the score. The difference is, you never ever hear Tech complain about another team running up the score. I had high hopes for this season...obviously this is not going to be the case...and Texas will probably run up the score again this year...especially against our sieve defense. That is, however, the nature of the game. I dislike Texas a lot...but respect them as well...and having had many years of conversations with their fans...and yours...will say their fans are much classier fans.
nwzgrl said:
posted on October 30, 2006 2:20 PM — 66.210.75.106 — link — abuse?
Classy fans......I have to say I was disgraced to be a Tech alum at this year's Texas game. I was born and raised in Lubbock and it was a shame to see the first game since I graduated from TTU and experience how rude our fans were to ME, a fellow Red Raider! This is my house!!! I was griped at for getting back into my seat by fellow Tech fans who said they never saw more "traffic" during a game. GOOD GRIEF!! I was just going to my seat to sit down, SORRY!!! And the local law enforcement were complete jack asses too. We were told to move TWICE (by a cop)because he didn't like the fact I was sitting with them (in the law enforcement section) as the guest of a Federal officer when they had dates and their wives taking up space also. Case in point... I attended a Notre Dame game this year for the FIRST time as a guest and was treated with the utmost respect and very impressed with the way their fans acted towards me and each other. (Of course, you can't compare Notre Dame to Tech.) I am never attending another Tech game. And Tech, this is one of the many reasons why you will never improve your reputation and with me, it's deteriorating. (MY children deserve to go to a better school, maybe Notre Dame.)
-Former Tech Fan
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OU Fan said:
posted on September 24, 2006 12:29 PM — 72.161.218.78 — link — abuse?The only time Texas Tech has impressed me was when they beat Cal in the 04 Holiday Bowl.