August 27, 2007
Selfish RB leaves Trojans; picks Florida
Former USC running back Emmanuel Moody, who was co-featured on the west coast cover of Sports Illustrated earlier this month to showcase the Trojans depth at RB, said Monday he will transfer to Florida.
"I followed my heart," said Moody, the Trojans' second-leading rusher last season. "It's when you get that feeling that you know something is right and you can't really describe."
Moody, who was one of ten USC running backs, left to become a "featured back" at Florida.
To hear his high school coach tell it, Moody has always been a selfish player, with little patience to be just a role player on the offense.
Mike Fuller, Moody's coach at Coppell High in Texas, has a warning for the Tar Heels and the Gators about the talented tailback."He's a phenomenal athlete," Fuller said. "But he was tough to coach his senior year because of his uncle."
Moody's uncle, Michael Chang, has served as a father figure for most of Moody's life. He's has run Moody through maniacal workouts since the player was in middle school. And he's gained a reputation for annoying coaches, admitting in multiple published reports that he's confronted coaches to demand more playing time for Moody.
"I think his uncle kind of taught him to look out for himself, and the team was second," Fuller said in a telephone interview. "I hope Emmanuel has grown out of that."
This transfer has all the makings of a win-win-win situation...
Moody gets more reps, provided he can stay out of the... (what did Orson call it?) ... "the Deshawn Wynn Memorial Doghouse for the Snack-fond and Surly",
... Florida gets a great player at one of Urbie's favorite positions where the Gators have --quite honestly-- struggled (as much as you can call that shiny trophy "struggling"),
... and USC... well... they get rid of a guy who was becoming a clubhouse cancer on a roster deeper with RB talent than anywhere else in the country. It was natural that SOMEONE was going to leave, but the Trojans get the upside of getting rid of a guy who was developing a "what can you do for me" attitude.
UPDATE:
Add one more "win" to that list, according to AEM.... give a win to North Carolina, Moody's second choice.
Yes, this, even if we came in second, gave something to North Carolina, something that nothing else could have given us. It gave us publicity. It gave a lot of talk about the program, it gave a lot of credential to the staff and the team. I know that a lot of people feel that is not much of a reward, when the prize was a very good RB, but on the other hand Moody would stay here for 3 years, getting good publicity, lots of credential stays a lifetime. Now, any big time athlete has seen the name of North Carolina on a lot of web pages, on a lot of magazines, all talking about one thing: getting a big time recruit.
Comments:
NMLSooner said:
posted on August 27, 2007 4:37 PM — 208.189.232.147 — link — abuse?
Well, if ONE source says he's selfish, it's got to be an indisputable fact! Would you consider Tashard Choice a selfish person because he left OU to go to Georgia Tech because their was a freshman name Adrian Peterson taking all the carries? Sometines when you make a decision, like where to play football in college at 17 or 18, you change your mind a couple of years later. I'm not saying your judgement is wrong, just maybe a little premature.
1st_and_NOLE
posted on August 27, 2007 4:45 PM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse?
said:
There are RUMORS flying that Urban Meyer may have illegally contacted/recruited him while he was @ USC.
Again, those are unconfirmed RUMORS.
Just wondering if anyone else has heard the same thing or have any more information on it.
T-Mac said:
posted on August 27, 2007 5:28 PM — 66.78.139.117 — link — abuse?
When a quarterback bolts for another school for more playing time...it's accepted. When a tailback bolts for another school...he is criticized. USC is absolutely loaded at tailback. You can't fault the man. Double Standard???
Why is this High School Coach of his even weighing in on this anyway?? He is a Collegiate athlete now. That guy needs to keep his trap shut. He sounds like one of those typical High School Coaches who can't get a job at the College level so he's pissed at the world. There is an unwritten rule in FB that as a Coach you never drop salt on someone's name. You just wish a player the best and go about your business. You don't see Houston Nutt running his mouth about Mitch Mustain.
Great catch for Florida!
The running game has been anemic in the last few years. Keep the guy healthy, work on his pass-blocking skills and should work out great!T-Mac will post when he can.
*T-Mac approved this message.
M00DY said:
posted on August 27, 2007 8:51 PM — 70.238.204.61 — link — abuse?
WHY DO PEOPLE HATE ON EMMANUEL MOODY...I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH HIM AND ALL THESE ROMOURS ABOUT MOODY BEING A SELFISH PLAYER ARE FALSE BECAUSE HE NOT...AND AS TO MIKE FULL (HIGH SCHOOL COACH) HE WAS RECENTLY FIRED FROM COPPELL HIGH SCHOOL WHERE HE COACHED MOODY BECAUSE OF HIS INABILITY TO COACH...THIS OVIOUSLY MEANS HES JEALOUS OF MOODYS ATHLETIC ABILITES AND ALSO THE FACT THAT MOODY WAS FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS OF WORKING OUT FROM HIS UNCLE AND NOT HIM (COACH)!
Bobby said:
posted on August 27, 2007 9:54 PM — 70.112.114.73 — link — abuse?
I don't know what Moody is thinking that formation that Meyers runs is not RB friendly. He won't get the carries he thinks he is. The way I understand it Moody also sent his release letter to Texas and that Brown wouldn't even acknowledge it after the crap he pulled when Texas was recruiting him, he sounds like a pain in the butt from what I've heard.Gator boy I think that star recruits line up at the school is because it's hard to resist fame. Alot of these kids become stars to the stars. They get the star recruits they win championships they get more stars.I think you move that school to lets say San Fran. or San Diego the school wouldn't have the alure it does now. I think some of these kids really do themselves a diservice by going there but it's probably hard to resist the Hollywood lights. At the same time it's hard to get noticed when your a star behind a star.
Zac said:
posted on August 27, 2007 10:58 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Yo, T-Mac (Post 8), I smell a rat in the wood pile. While I agree, if the kid (There's that word again.) wants more playing time and thinks he can get it at FL, he's got to do what's right for him. But, come on, man. His old HS coach gives him bad press, yet he might be a FL assistant? You don't think for one minute he had anything to do with Moody coming to FL, right? Of course not.
In a pigs eye!!!
Heismania4SC said:
posted on August 28, 2007 12:12 AM — 71.106.162.224 — link — abuse?
1. As a Trojan fan I wish him luck
2. He is a very good student and person. He is not going to be a problem at all in the classroom.
3. He is a very good scat back, but not an every down back. He will be a very good back in a rotation and have a very good per carry average.
4. His Uncle will cause a problem if Moody is not on the field early and often, but I don't think that will be a problem.
5. Three Trojans in a matter of a week considered transferring to Florida nearly all at once. Pete found out there was illegal contact and found out who the person was that was doing it, and will be following up with the AD to file a case with the NCAA.gatorhippy
posted on August 28, 2007 8:34 AM — 70.121.185.56 — link — abuse? said:
K-Hue (#7):
I'm a little confused by that...
The reason being is that the UF coaching staff has been intact for 3 years now with no changes or additions...
With the exception of Charlie Strong, all these guys came with Meyer from Utah...
So when did any of them coach Moody in HS?
Sounds like sour grapes on the part of Pete and USC...
GatorGreg said:
posted on August 28, 2007 8:37 AM — 24.250.236.220 — link — abuse?
I love how everything coming out of USC is negative about this guy. I'm very pleased with his decision as UF needs some talent at the RB position. Hell if I signed with a school and didnt get the playing time I deserved, Id be gone too. You only live once so why not take your shot.
NOTaNOLE said:
posted on August 28, 2007 10:40 AM — 24.110.118.219 — link — abuse?
Maybe his old highschool coach could call Pete and figure a way to talk Xavier Lee into doing the right thing and leaving that has been of a school and comming to USC to replace Moody at "Scat Back". As soon as he sees the new home the University provides for star players parents he'll probably start packing right away.
TrojanHorse said:
posted on August 28, 2007 12:15 PM — 208.54.15.155 — link — abuse?
#7 you are referring to Jamere Holland I take it
#18 did you just get out of moron class? No one at USC has said a bad thing about Moody... PC let him go (with his release) and has not looked back (nor has he said a bad thing).. SC fans are wishing him luck..
so just where are these sour grapes you refer too in reference to Moody
but my two cents is that if its being a featured back (as you know at SC its all about the rotation, ask EM.. or that PC just prefers CA kids ask EM or that SC doesn't know how to get their play makers the ball ask EM) why would he go to UF when blocking and pass catching were not his strong points.. aren't those vital to the spread offense? also does he think that UM is going to stop recruiting 5* backs while EM is around?
well at least the uncle is UM's issue now
otoh, I always liked EM and was bummed when he left, I do hope for the best for him unless it affects SC
TrojanHorse said:
posted on August 28, 2007 12:44 PM — 208.54.15.29 — link — abuse?
btw, regarding Jamere holland the coach in question is actually the Director of Football operations
from the daily news
Holland's high school coach, Troy Starr, is the director of football operations at Florida. Their close relationship apparently disturbs some within USC's athletic department who believe Starr and Holland communicated before Holland transferred.
Zac said:
posted on August 28, 2007 1:15 PM — 209.36.193.14 — link — abuse?
What is this "illegal contact" thing anyway? It sounds childish to me. "HE'S TOUCHING ME! HE'S TOUCHING ME!!"
I mean, if I have someone's phone # or e-mail address, and I’d like to meet them, make an appointment, or just talk, I should be able to call them or e-mail them. If they're available and are willing to talk to me, we should be able to have a conversation, even if it's business. So, why all the school yard, sand box, BS when an individual knows of a need at one school, a surplus at another, and can make a connection that fits? USC has 10 (now 9) RB's. What's the realistic probability of every one of them having the opportunity to play more than a down or two in one season?
By comparison, WVU has 6 quality RB's. Barring injuries, and provided WVU is well ahead by half-time, other than Steve Slaton, maybe 2 or 3 of them will see any action. So, given that ratio, how can 1 of 9 realistically expect to play? If the individual loves the game, and can't fit into another position (WR, LB, etc.), why not go elsewhere, where their talent would be needed and appreciated? It almost seems like, "You came here 1st. If I can't have you, nobody can!" Silly!!!
Tampa Hurricane
posted on August 28, 2007 1:52 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
Is it really considered selfish for a player to go from a team that he is not good enough to play on, to a team that he should be able to start on? UF has to have some of the weakest RBs of any major program, so it is a great decision by Moody to transfer there.
1st_and_NOLE
posted on August 28, 2007 2:10 PM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse? said:
Yep... I've been hearing more and more Florida coaches made illegal contact with current USC players to recruit them to UF as #17 said. I've also heard PC will ensure official complaints are filed against UF with the NCAA. Sounds like something dirty has gone down and it sounds like PC will pursue this to the fullest extent. Again, those are just rumors but if they're true... UF could be facing NCAA probation.
gatorhippy
posted on August 28, 2007 2:54 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
Ok, clowns...
You guys are getting your players mixed up...
No current coaches at UF have anything to do with Moody...
However...
Recent USC bootee Jamere Holland was coached by newly appointed UF Director of Football Operations and former Taft High coach Troy Starr...
Holland will be denied release if he decides to transfer to UF even though it his second choice...
USC is blocking his release for his first choice of ORegon as they don't want him to transfer to another P10 opponent...
Carroll is going to allow Moody to transfer to UF but the USC Ath. Dept. suspects Holland may have had contact with Starr at some point prior to his being kicked off the team...
There are two keys to this whole situation...
A) Lots of players speak with their former coaches after leaving high school...
Some take their coaches with them (see ARK)...
B)Holland wasn't looking to transfer, Pete kicked him off the team...
Once again...
It seems that USC is just sucking sour grapes...
gatorstud said:
posted on August 28, 2007 3:02 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
it sounds like pete c. has his panties in a wad....not to mention he is espn's and college footballs "glamour guy"....heaven forbid anyone wanting to leave usc.....pete c. needs to get over himself...or maybe this is a stab to get attention away from the usc- r. bush incident.......but, it sound like a lot of crying to me....
with this addition to the team...florida will be a tough team next year.....mark my words......
jmho...
go gators...and hokies
1st_and_NOLE
posted on August 28, 2007 3:14 PM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse? said:
This will all works it's self out. Any alleged infractions will come out of the wood work IF they are true.
Until then, despite the rumors, we should view this as fair play.
I'm sure we'll hear if there's anything more to this.
Until then, nice pick up by UF. He'll be a weapon next year.
gatorhippy
posted on August 28, 2007 3:16 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
Check that in #23...
It appears that Holland may have been booted by Carroll for voicing his wants about a transfer in addition to missing meetings and trainer time for injuries...
But, as I stated...
Not to UF but to Oregon...
http://www.dailynews.com/ci_6675219?source=most_viewed
Which has been denied along with his second choice of UF and a reunion with Troy Starr, his former Taft High coach...
gatorhippy
posted on August 28, 2007 3:49 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
It will be hard to prove any kind of tampering as it is...
Pete booted the kid...
He sought transfer to the Ducks first and was denied because of the in conference thing...
Then, Pete denies his second transfer request to UF and only then crying foul play by Starr...
Once more time...
Carroll's puckering from those grapes...
CW said:
posted on August 28, 2007 4:52 PM — 204.84.232.251 — link — abuse?
trojanhorse,
I guess pete is trying to cover his back if his team self-destructs! After what UCLA did to USCW and the tromping UF placed on Ohio most serious sports enthusiasts look to the SEC for NFL caliber contenders. After the entire SEC has led the nation in draft picks in all but two years since 1983. If I was ultimately wanting to be in the NFL I would want to transfer to the SEC or at least a Southern team such as FSU / Miami in the ACC. Instead of being babied into some flower bowl. I'm sure pete was crying buckets when he lost Moody. The uncle was looking for $ in the NFL & I'm glad Moody agreed. I hope however that Moody is ready for the expectations of the SEC. Tough games every week not just one ... I think pete stated that ASU was the worry? We in the SEC don't live in that kind of luxury. It's a constant war in the trenches with a hope to have enough left for a bowl.Dman said:
posted on August 29, 2007 6:23 AM — 68.224.30.32 — link — abuse?
The last person in college football that is sour about anything is Pete Carrol. What a bonehead Gator geek. Now, If anyone has a right to be sour it's me since my team has been just about the worst team in the NCAA the last five years
(maybe with the exception of buffalo). Who would that be you say ? Well that would be the UNLV "not so runnin" Rebels. When we say "GO REBELS" it's usually a call to the bus driver hoping He'll just get us to the game. Winning the game, now that's a completly different matter.gatorstud said:
posted on August 29, 2007 8:24 AM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
uscmom #36...remember..it is not where you start...it is where you finish....and i may be going out on a limb here but could you tell me where florida finished compared to usc last year....yeah..that is what i thought.....not to mention they will have a pretty damn good team next year.....
go gators......and hokies
GatorGreg said:
posted on August 29, 2007 2:33 PM — 24.250.236.220 — link — abuse?
@ USCMom - Are you kidding me. If not for every media outlet sucking USC off each year youd be the next Boise State with that bruising schedule of yours. I cant stand the talk of your toughest opponents being the Washingtons,Oregons and Arizona St. each year. What a joke! From everything Ive heard this year I dont even know why any teams are playing this year seeing as how USC has already won the championship. Just remember, nobody goes wire-to-wire and the PAC-10 is a joke.
UWDAWG said:
posted on August 30, 2007 5:06 AM — 213.185.122.11 — link — abuse?
Southern Cal went wire-to-wire just a couple years back as I recall...Oh, and GatorGreg...Try Arkansas, Va Tech, Auburn, Nebraska, Notre Dame, as OOC the past couple of years...If you were gonna pick a team to slam, you might want to find one that your great football history might be a bit more relative to...Possibly get a few Heisman's or NC's under your belt.. Until then, you might try working on someone a little more in your league...For that matter, you might well see Washington ranked ahead of your Gators in the teams they've fielded over the years...Certainly the last few down years withstanding.
That's why they play the game...
Here's to the season starting tonight...Good luck all...
hokie4life said:
posted on August 30, 2007 1:21 PM — 216.89.164.100 — link — abuse?
Guys and Gals,
I think the past several years have pretty much spoke for themselves as far as who's gonna beat who? Who had the Deacs winning the ACC? NOONE Who had the Gators taking it all NOONE Who had USC getting beat by UCLA NOONE. Who had Rutgers with a great season NOONE My point, college football is full of surprises. Any given Saturday. Alright lets get it on, tonights the night! Have fun all!!!
CW said:
posted on August 31, 2007 10:15 AM — 66.226.62.42 — link — abuse?
hokie4life,
I'm glad you mentioned the Deacs! However, no one has ever mentioned Wake! Rutgers has been mentioned on a # of occasions on ESPN, Mike & Mike and even talk radio! I usually laugh much like I did when Pete Carrol stated that the team he feared was ASU? Who? I can't belief pac teams are ranked! As for FL... you are so blind? Deaf? Ignorant? or from a distant galaxy? I'm from the South? Are you? The BCS has been trying to minimize the SEC for years because they dominate every statistic including most NFL draft picks since 1983! Down here we KNEW Ohio was going to get tromped! And we laughed that the BCS computers failed to realize USCW was going to get beat by UCLA?? If that hadn't happen we wouldn't have had FL as NCAA Champ because the BCS didn't want that to occur. In other words, college football teams havent changed (SEC dominates) the BCS "computers" rig the reality! It's the NFL that keeps us in the South sane!1st_and_NOLE
posted on August 31, 2007 11:56 AM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse? said:
CW #48:
"If that hadn't happen we wouldn't have had FL as NCAA Champ because the BCS didn't want that to occur."
Ummm...
Florida isn't the "NCAA Champ" in football, no one is.
The NCAA doesn't declare a champion in football.
Tampa Hurricane
posted on August 31, 2007 12:33 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
CW, most of your posts sound like the paranoid rants of someone who has smoked too much weed. The NCAA is out to get us, the BCS is out to get us......Last year the SEC did dominate; however, over the last 5 years they have a losing bowl record. That doesn't sound like too much domination going on. In college football, the strong conferences change each year.
If you look at the best winning percentages in the history of college football the top five are:
Michigan .745
Notre Dame .744
Texas .715
Oklahoma .714
Ohio State .713The past 25 years:
Miami .808
Nebraska .807
Florida State .793
Michigan .753
Florida .749The past 10 years:
Boise State .782
Ohio State .776
Michigan .774
Texas .770
Miami .764Could you explain how a conference that supposedly dominated every year only has one team on these lists? As I stated earlier, in 2006, the SEC was the dominate conference, but THE DOMINATE CONFERENCE CHANGES EACH YEAR!
Lennie Collins said:
posted on August 31, 2007 1:03 PM — 68.93.134.47 — link — abuse?
Hey Tampa Hurricane...leave CW alone. You don't know if he inhaled or not. But I am going to praise you for coming with FACTS! I say that the SEC is not so tough...I get called names. You came with facts so I gone sit back and see what names you get called! That what needs to brought to the blogs...facts not opinions. Take care man! Hey, maybe you can share how you got'em with those who are bias to the SEC?
Gatorboy 40 said:
posted on September 1, 2007 6:46 PM — 220.150.43.58 — link — abuse?
Tampa Hurricane Post 50,,,You just look at an individual team wins, and then say they have a tough conference. Look at the conference as one team. Compare the overall conferences bowl wins. But to pick the best team from a conference means nothing. For example, it's arguable that the teams you mentioned like, ND, TX, OK, OH, continuously have high wins, is because they have to conference competition. I take nothing away from USC, they are a great team, however If you take them out of the equation, the competition drops way down. Take either one of these teams Fl, LSU, GA, UA, ARK, Tenn, AL, and soon to be SC, from the SEC, and you still have quality in the conference. Either one of these teams can beat anybody in the Nation, and look at their winning percentage over a ten year run. Pick 6-8 teams from your conference, and compare to 6-8 teams from the SEC, and then compare bowl wins over ten years,,,,,get my point.
Gatorboy 40 said:
posted on September 1, 2007 7:02 PM — 220.150.43.58 — link — abuse?
Post 50,,,You mentioned Fl, as the only SEC team, but why not UA, GA, AL, TENN, over a ten year run. Yes the Canes have been pretty good, but they were in the Big East, and the ACC, which at one time considered a door mat conferences in football, thus making it easy to rack up wins. Going undefeated in the SEC today, is far more impressive than going undefeated in any other conference. I won't mention how UA got screwed, a few years ago, by going undefeated. That's another story. The SEC being the superior conference, is one of the few things that most all sports writers agree on. It's quite simple, how many SEC teams went to bowls, and won.
CW said:
posted on September 1, 2007 8:35 PM — 66.226.62.42 — link — abuse?
tampahurricane,
I don't know what crap you’re toasting! But you’re using stats comparing "bowl" stats that are being argued in the Southeast as meaningless! Bone head that's what we've been arguing about! That's why we laughed that the BCS computers failed to realize USCW would be beat by UCLA! A one loss Northwestern team is say comparable to an average 7 loss SEC team. However, using the BCS!!! Stupid! A 5 loss SEC could never play a 1 loss Northwestern who may play a one loss Oregon who couldn't beat and average ACC team! Like WFU! Look it up idiot! Michigan can’t even beat uh?? ASU? Listen it’s obvious you’re young and naive. How many super bowl teams have won with more than 3 season losses? Look it up! And use your brain this time! That’s how the SEC is kept down when most in the NFL know reality and draft primarily SEC and especially Florida athletes.PS. Thanks Gatorboy & Lennie! It always takes seasons like last year that the BCS screws up on to prove our point but I don't know about you but I don't see this happening again soon!
Tampa Hurricane
posted on September 4, 2007 1:40 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
Gatorboy 40 re post 53. I know you are an SEC fan, but please try to hide your stupidity. The reason that those schools you asked about weren't in my listings is because they did not finish in the top five. If someone lists the top 5 winning percentages for a period of time, and the team doesn't qualify as being top 5, then they would not be listed.
As you requested (because I couldn't expect an SEC fan to be able to figure out the statistics), the winning percentages for selected SEC schools over the past 10 years:
Georgia .762 #6
Florida .746 #9
Tennessee .746 #9
LSU .694 #17
Auburn .677 #19
Tampa Hurricane
posted on September 4, 2007 2:00 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
CW, what's up with your stupid comment calling me young and naive? You don't see me calling you old, stupid and inbred do you? On a side note, if anyone truly believes that any 7 loss team from a BCS conference is better than a 1 loss team from another BCS conference, then they might want to consider adding some more branches to their family tree. I realize that the average SEC fan only has a 4th grade education, but come on your posts are paranoid and lacking of any facts, statistics, or research. Please keep your mentally retarded thoughts and opinions to yourself.
gatorstud said:
posted on September 4, 2007 2:16 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
hey t-hurricane....let me get this straight....you have a problem w/ someone calling you young and naive but you have NO problem calling out sec fans to only having 4th grade education and being stupid....
don't throw trash at someone without being able to take it....or please go to another site to chat....
go gators...and hokies
Tampa Hurricane
posted on September 4, 2007 2:22 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
gatorstud, I threw trash at CW because of the shit he has posted against my comments on multiple posts. If the person posting doesn't disrespect me, then I don't disrespect them...but if they disrespect me, then I won't think twice about disrespecting them.
CW said:
posted on September 4, 2007 4:23 PM — 204.84.232.251 — link — abuse?
tampahurricane,
No I don't mind the meaningless tirades but as for your facts... they're the same old garbage that compares schools w/o any NFL playoff system to others based upon what? Northwestern playing a BCS bowl v/s Oregon because they only lose 1 game? When Florida with a 10 loss season could beat either! Wake up and smell the $! That's why we won't see a play-off system in the NCAA. Which teams generate the most revenue in bowl appearances? Answer that and your naive conjectures will disappear.
Tampa Hurricane
posted on September 5, 2007 8:48 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
CW, since you seem to not understand what statistics and opinions are, dictionary.com is here to help you.
statistics: a numerical fact or datum, esp. one computed from a sample
facts: 1. something that actually exists; reality; truth:
2. something known to exist or to have happened:Opinions: A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof
CW...to make fanblogs a better place you should do one of two things:
1. come up with some facts and statistics to support your opinion before posting again.
1. shut down your computer, go sleep with your sister, and never post on fanblogs again.Bama81 said:
posted on September 6, 2007 1:29 PM — 65.60.65.138 — link — abuse?
Having attended Alabama I feel I have a right to comment on the SEC from a personal position. Now living in So. Cal. I also follow the Trojans and feel competent enough to comment on them. It’s amazing how this is getting all blown up. Funny how UF bloggers are whining about Pete Carroll when you already got Moody. Accept the gift and go on your way. You will look like idiots if Moody blows at UF. He is a really good back that wanted more playing time... No problem with that. No-one is losing sleep over this issue at USC, as it appears you UF fans are. How ironic! It’s amazing how much SEC fans are ignorant about the PAC 10. Maybe because you tuck yourselves in by 7:00pm PST and miss out on all the sports action that continues throughout the evening. The only ones spreading rumors about Pete Carroll having sour grapes are the UF fans. Ask any Trojan and they will tell you they wish him well. As far as Holland goes, apparently there was some illegal contact made and the issue is going through the proper channels. If the positions were reversed UF fans would be up in arms and calling for USC's head. How hypocritical of you. The facts are simple to recognize if you choose to use your brain. If not I believe there is a reasonable argument for the following:
The SEC has always been recognized as a premier conference. There is a definite EAST-COAST bias because of the problem with time changes and the inability of East Coaster to stay up and see what the West Coast is Truly about. In recent years, the PAC 10 has been handing the SEC their heads (with a notable acknowledgement that it hasn't always happened.) I site USC over Auburn/Arkansas, Cal most recently over Tennessee, and even lowly UCLA over my beloved BAMA TWICE. There are plenty more but I believe I made my point. The PAC 10 is much stronger than anyone on the East Coast is willing to admit to. It is almost as if you are afraid to admit that you may actually have competition. So be it. Go on and continue to underestimate the PAC 10. It makes it easier to live up to your expectation and is much sweeter for the PAC 10 when they hand the SEC their rear-end. Face it; USC has been a much more dominate team than Florida in the past few years so when talking about sucking on bitter grapes... look in the mirror. Oh let's not forget that Florida backed into the Championship game last year and would not have gone if USC hadn't played their worse game of the year at UCLA. I was at that game and UCLA shouldn't have won but this is college football (as Michigan will attest to.) Anything is possible on a given Saturday so be careful about putting yourself on such a high tower, the fall from there is even greater. End point, Florida is getting a very good RB. Be happy about it and leave all this "One-Upmanship" for those on the field. If your lucky you may even face USC in the Championship game where it will all be resolved and this blog becomes meaningless banter. Notice – nothing about Bama… I know where we stand this year… We have our work cut out for us.gatorstud said:
posted on September 6, 2007 2:03 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
bama 81....thanks for lumping all of us u of fla. fans in one category...as haters of usc and the pac ten...you are such a tool....the east coast and west coast have always been at odds over such issues...but thanks for coming on here and CLEARING everything up for the rest of us college football fans...wow ..and to think i have been sitting in the dark all of these years.and now i see the light....what a putz....
curious why you don't mention tennessee's ass-whooping of cal from last year...and if usc couldn't handle ucla...what in thee hell makes you think they would of kept up w/ florida or lsu from last year...cause most people on here (outside of usc fans) seem to think the same thing...so we all must be wrong and bama 81 must be rite...tool
not to mention that your crack about florida "backing into the champ. game if (sniff sniff) usc hadn't played (snifff sniff) their worst game of the (sniff sniff) year"....if that ain't sour grapes then i don't know what is....
the only thing you did in your post is give your opinion...which amounts to "diddley poo"....
and that is my opinion.....
go gators....and hokies
Bama81 said:
posted on September 6, 2007 3:11 PM — 65.60.65.138 — link — abuse?
Gatorstud (Yeh right... STUD?!?!? Whatever... sounds like an inferiority complex to me.) Is that the best you can bring? I am disappointed in you. My team sucks and the prospects for this year are dim and with so much material at your disposal that's all you can come up with. What makes you think your little diatribe is going to bother me. Your jealousy is showing - (refer to Stud comment). I give you high marks however for your use of "Diddley Poo." Quite creative. Something my four year old would have thought of. Go ahead and write off the PAC 10 and USC. I could care less. All I care about is that you remember to include the fries on my order when I pull up to your job in my Porsche. The sun is great, the girls are awesome, and there is no choking humidity here in So. Cal. so forgive me if I don't give your comments a whole lot of weight. I have better things to do than satisfy your need for quality journalism (ironic coming from you.) Enjoy your year of football and check back with me at the end of the year when no-one, including you, will be able to make excuses. Florida had better win the National Championship this year with an undefeated season and no close games otherwise you are going to look ... well you get the idea. And God forbid, you had BETTER NOT lose to Tennessee this week (What would Cal say?). Honestly... Good luck!
Bama81 said:
posted on September 6, 2007 3:12 PM — 65.60.65.138 — link — abuse?
Gatorstud (Yeh right... STUD?!?!? Whatever... sounds like an inferiority complex to me.) Is that the best you can bring? I am disappointed in you. My team sucks and the prospects for this year are dim and with so much material at your disposal that's all you can come up with. What makes you think your little diatribe is going to bother me. Your jealousy is showing - (refer to Stud comment). I give you high marks however for your use of "Diddley Poo." Quite creative. Something my four year old would have thought of. Go ahead and write off the PAC 10 and USC. I could care less. All I care about is that you remember to include the fries on my order when I pull up to your job in my Porsche. The sun is great, the girls are awesome, and there is no choking humidity here in So. Cal. so forgive me if I don't give your comments a whole lot of weight. I have better things to do than satisfy your need for quality journalism (ironic coming from you.) Enjoy your year of football and check back with me at the end of the year when no-one, including you, will be able to make excuses. Florida had better win the National Championship this year with an undefeated season and no close games otherwise you are going to look ... well you get the idea. And God forbid, you had BETTER NOT lose to Tennessee this week (What would Cal say?). Honestly... Good luck!
gatorstud said:
posted on September 6, 2007 3:53 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?
bama 81...of first thing...please come with something other than your opinion...and ..uhhmm dumbass...florida doesn't play tenn. until next saturday...tool...see, your knowledge has already come under scrutiny....you don't even know what week it is....and if you have EVER read any of my posts you would know that i am (unfortunately) living in indiana....so your humidity and weather crack....well, you know....and anybody who has to TELL EVERYONE he drives a porsche shouldn't be calling someone else out as havin an inferiority complex...your such a tool......
i guess it shouldn't surprise anyone that an alabama alum is on his knees giving pete caroll a bl*!job for publicity.....
and why does florida need to go undefeated..what is your reasoning for this...everyone knows that florida lost alot of talent and for them to even get to the sec championship game is going to be tough....or do you even read the post before you spill your crap to the masses...c'mon tool at least try to show us your posts have some type of credibility...talk about a lack of journalism...tool
i didn't take a shot at alabama cause we were talking about usc...didn't you realize we weren't talking about alabama or did you just decide to change the subject cause your an awsome journalist...lol....tool.....
and the diddley poo comment came from the colts old coach jim mora....you can look that up mr. journalism....
and while we are speaking of children...how is your wife and my kids...lol..you are such a tool..(yeah i know it was low, but oh well)
on a last note......try not to take anything on here seriously...we come on here to talk..and sometimes talk trash...if you can't handle it....why don't you and MY son go find a disney site to chat on...lol...
just my honest OPINION
go gators...and hokies...and bama 81(he needs all the love he can get)
TampaGator said:
posted on September 6, 2007 4:29 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Bama81:
FYI:
In head to head games between the 2 conferences, SEC holds a 65-40 edge; in fact only 1 team in Pac 10 has winning record v. SEC: Stanford; while only 3 SEC teams have losing records to PAC 10: Arkansas, Vandy, and Miss St.
GO GATORS!!
P.S.--we could have done without the confession of inadequecy regarding your "manhood" vis a vis bragging on the Porshe; but at least the weather's nice out there, right?
TampaGator said:
posted on September 6, 2007 4:30 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Bama81:
FYI:
In head to head games between the 2 conferences, SEC holds a 65-40 edge; in fact only 1 team in Pac 10 has winning record v. SEC: Stanford; while only 3 SEC teams have losing records to PAC 10: Arkansas, Vandy, and Miss St.
GO GATORS!!
P.S.--we could have done without the confession of inadequecy regarding your "manhood" vis a vis bragging on the Porshe; but at least the weather's nice out there, right?
TampaGator said:
posted on September 6, 2007 4:30 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Bama81:
FYI:
In head to head games between the 2 conferences, SEC holds a 65-40 edge; in fact only 1 team in Pac 10 has winning record v. SEC: Stanford; while only 3 SEC teams have losing records to PAC 10: Arkansas, Vandy, and Miss St.
GO GATORS!!
P.S.--we could have done without the confession of inadequecy regarding your "manhood" vis a vis bragging on the Porshe; but at least the weather's nice out there, right?
CW said:
posted on September 6, 2007 4:56 PM — 204.84.232.251 — link — abuse?
tampahurricane,
Since it appears we have to walk you into reality. Let's begin with SEC NFL Draft picks!I don't have the time to list for you every statistic that I've argued... however I'll let you begin the learning process. Go to Scout.com so you won't appear to be a complete idiot. Get back with me and I'll send you to the next. Some of you reading this ... please help the poor guy out??
posted on September 6, 2007 5:01 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta said:
I hope Bama81's Porsche is still under warranty. You have to be a masochist to want to own one if it's not. I see guys driving these older 911s and 944s and think "maybe I should open up that German auto repair shop." $300 oil changes? Sign me up!
Canes Alum said:
posted on September 6, 2007 5:21 PM — 71.101.31.211 — link — abuse?
CW, that's a great comeback when a poster askes you for statistics. I don't have time to look it up, but could you look it up for me. I have read multiple posts of yours, and you never have any facts to support your opinion. CW, it looks like you are the one that is truly in need of help.
TampaGator said:
posted on September 6, 2007 5:24 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
War Eagle:
Don't tempt me man; I might have to go for the quadruple post!
Gatorhip:
I'd be more impressed if he nutted up and supported his alma mater, rather than "go with the flow" and take up the PAC 10 flag, b/c he's in PAC 10 country...but then we're all probably better off with him wearing trojan colors and championing the Pac 10--what with the Porshe, and all...
I best be gett'n fella's...
....this is what happened last time I was loitering around this site: "...all threads wind up being SEC threads, and I have to shut to whole thing down. It's a shame; really a damn shame..."
GO GATORS!!
P.S.--Where the FSU CLEMSON thread???
Canes Alum said:
posted on September 6, 2007 5:25 PM — 71.101.31.211 — link — abuse?
I actually feel sorry for CW when I go back and read the posts between him and Tampa Hurricane. CW just keeps saying the same thing over and over which is only his opinion without facts, and Tampa Hurricane is ripping him apart with facts. CW, just a quick piece of advice, in the future don't try to have a battle of wits with anyone, because you are coming to the fight unarmed!
GO CANES!!!!
TampaGator said:
posted on September 6, 2007 5:26 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
War Eagle:
Don't tempt me man; I might have to go for the quadruple post!
Gatorhip:
I'd be more impressed if he nutted up and supported his alma mater, rather than "go with the flow" and take up the PAC 10 flag, b/c he's in PAC 10 country...but then we're all probably better off with him wearing trojan colors and championing the Pac 10--what with the Porshe, and all...
I best be gett'n fella's...
....this is what happened last time I was loitering around this site: "...all threads wind up being SEC threads, and I have to shut to whole thing down. It's a shame; really a damn shame..."
GO GATORS!!
P.S.--Where the FSU CLEMSON thread???
Bama81 said:
posted on September 6, 2007 5:44 PM — 65.60.65.138 — link — abuse?
Now that is more like it. Props to TampaGator and War Eagle Atlanta for coming with their game face on. I always appreciate a good burn even if it's on me. But the Hater whose a Gator, GatorStud, you came back with better stuff but I am still not too impressed. "Ding" - isn't it time for you to flip the burgers? Just remember its the TOOL in your hand not the one in your pants. So back away from the Kleenex and get back to work. Oh and by the way its not a Porsche it's a... Maserati, yeh that's the ticket. "DING" - time for the fries. As an aside, didn't EPSN just rank Florida 7th in the list of Top Ten Overrated Teams? Not my evaluation, but theirs. That should be enough material to keep this string going for sometime now.
TampaGator said:
posted on September 6, 2007 6:03 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Canes Alum:
Tampa Hurricane may have come with facts and stats, but CW called him stupid--that's gotta' be worth a few stats and facts, right?
Allow me to translate CW's argument, into palatable, bit size morsels that hopefully even the most obtuse reader may be able to comprehend:
Winning percentages are mitigated by the level of competition.
E.g.--U. of Michigan has the highest winning percentage in CFB; in fact, their winning percentage is higher than the highest NFL team--the Miami Dolphins. Do we then conclude, on that basis alone, that the Michgan Wolverines are therefore a superior team to the Miami Dolphins--as well as virtually all other NFL teams, since their winning percentages are less than Miamis, and therefore less than Michigan's? Most NFL fans would argue not.
Likewise, SEC teams' winning percentages are not the best in CFB; it does not necessarily follow that the FB played therein, is not as good, or even superior--it might be just ever so slightly mitigated by the quality of the commpetition in the SEC.
Claro?
B/T/W: obligatory stat/fact: U. of Miami enjoys a winning record against virtually every major confernce in the country....
...except...
...the SEC. Go figure.
GO GATORS!!P.S.--your welcome CW...now please step up your damn game, show some damn class...or step aside, and let the big boys play.
PPS--this time I mean it; I'm check'n out boys...
...enjoy.
Canes Alum said:
posted on September 6, 2007 6:42 PM — 71.101.31.211 — link — abuse?
TampaGator, you're right. CW did do a good job of name calling. I bet if he ever got into a battle of wits with a child, it would be an even match. I love to read the posts of the bloggers that have opinions but can never come up with statistics to support those opinions.
As someone stated earlier, the best conference in college football changes every year. The SEC was the best in 2006, but 2007 is a new year and we can't tell which conference is best until some games have been played. We can tell the the Big 10 with their loss to a I-AA school should be regarded is a mid-major conference now.
gatorstud said:
posted on September 6, 2007 9:22 PM — 72.69.14.26 — link — abuse?
bama 81..well you pretty much summed yourself up there....duh..first it's a porsche...now it is a maserati....first your a man now your a woman...which is it?????make up your mind...i'm guessin you really drive a 84 mercury lynx hatchback with a faded "bear bryant" hat air freshner.....lol
your jabs are just like your coach...here today & gone tomorrow......lame and tame all at the same time....tool....why don't you and i make a few wagers.....we can bet on
1. who's coach leaves first..oh, saban will tell you he is stayin...but..well, you know...
2. which team wins a sec title next
3. which team wins a national title next
and we will just leave it here since those are the most important things.....and so....hhhmmmmm...i think i'll take florida on all three questions.....
now, bama IQ81....what u got now......nothin but a glimpse of your past gone by.......tool...
this is the lat time i respond to you...tool...your wasting my time i got to get back to flippin burgers...lol
go gators...and hokies
Tampa Hurricane
posted on September 7, 2007 8:25 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
CW, I finally realized why your posts lack statistics and facts...you are just a 14 year old that is a huge fan of The CW and knows nothing about football. Just sit back, watch some Gilmore Girls, and let the adults that know about college football post.
That being said, I want to send out thanks to TampaGator and Canes Alum for smacking you around while I wasn't online. I'm glad to see that I am not the only one that notices that The CW doesn't know anything about college football.
scott51 said:
posted on September 7, 2007 11:46 AM — 74.133.153.234 — link — abuse?
Tampa Hurricane,Don't bother arguing with CW - I've tried.
He'll just come at you with BCS conspiracy theories against the SEC, the SEC's NFL Draft record and theories about the SEC's storied dominance of all that is college football.
Trust me, it's sort of a broken record thing and after a while, it just gives you a headache.
GO CAR S!
CW said:
posted on September 7, 2007 8:30 PM — 66.226.62.42 — link — abuse?
scott51,
I'm not doing all the leg work! I've had to do this time and time again over the years. I gave thurricane a place to start. When he is finished digressing through Scout.com I'll be ready to give him the next. As a teacher it's up to the students to find the facts if you have trouble I'll guide you before making ridiculous accusations. Don't worry it's going to be a long season. Look at it like this ... it's not for a semester grade? It's for enlightenment! After going through SEC / NFL stats I'll carry over to BCS parodies there are several excellent sites! Learn to examine from multiple perspectives not just who won a bowl. I’ll check back on this blog from time to time.
Bama81 said:
posted on September 10, 2007 12:29 PM — 65.60.65.138 — link — abuse?
GatorStud,
Didn't get a chance to read your string until today. Very well done. Now that is what I was expecting. Good come backs. No sence in replying to this cause I am just as bored with the string as you are. I am always willing to admit when I have been hit with good jabs and you held your own. I am bummed that you beat me to the "Your wife and my kids" line. Good show! You have to appreciate a true fan sticking up for his team. It true that I really didn't bring my "A" game on this one. In answer to your questions however and just ot set the record straight. I drive a crappy honda civic, I am a man and I don't have any "Bear Bryant Hat" air fresheners on my rear view mirror. Regarding Nick Saban, I didn't like him at LSU. I thought He was a "Tool", if I may use your familiar phrase, for leaving LSU for Miami the way he did and thought even less of him the way he left Miami for my Bama. I have no trust in him that he will stay at Bama. As to the bet, I never bet money but would be willing to take up a gentleman's bet. (Call me a tool if you will but I NEVER risk money on a gamble.) Regarding the bet I sure you will be surprised to hear what I think. As to No. 1 - Which coach will leave first, I say Saban does (for Michigan). No 2. I think Florida has the edge but Bama is a dark horse. No. 3 is anyone's guess. College football is so unpredictable I can't commit either way.To sum up, I am done with this thread as well. My only OPINION was that I think the SEC gets to much love and the Pac 10 deserves a little more. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one. Good luck with Moody and congratulation on the strong victory this past week. You have been a very good adversary. Good luck on the rest of the year.
---OUTTampa Hurricane
posted on September 10, 2007 3:04 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse? said:
The CW, this is my last attempt to instill some knowledge on your feable mind. Here are a couple more statistics to disprove your opinion about the SEC:
You believe that the SEC owns the NFL draft; however, ACC has produced 18 first-round draft picks the past two years to lead all conferences.
You also believe that the SEC overall is the most dominant conference...Since the start of 2006, here are the top winning percentages in OOC games between BCS conferences:
Big East 16-9 .640
Pac-10 14-9 .609
SEC 17-12 .586Just another quick fact for you, the make-up of the USA Today top 15:
Pac 10 3 teams
Big East 3 teams
Big XII 3 teams
Big 10 3 teams
SEC 2 teams
ACC 1 team
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gatorstud said:
posted on August 27, 2007 2:27 PM — 69.95.111.248 — link — abuse?all any of us gators can hope for is a more solid running game....
and of course another national title...
i'm not asking for too much am i ??????? lol....
go gators....and hokies