March 29, 2008
Utah, Miami getting new uniforms
The Utah Utes will be sporting new uniforms this fall after sealing a deal with UnderArmour to replace the team's former agreement with Nike.
The new uniforms, which the Utes will debut Aug. 30 at Michigan, feature a single curved stripe on each shoulder with "UTAH" emblazoned across the front and the Utes' drum and feather logo on the pants. The new uniforms will feature the school colors of crimson and white. The combinations, such as mixing and matching the jerseys and pants, will be determined later by the team's leadership council.
Rumors are circulating about an alternate black jersey as well.
I like the approach that Utah coach Kyle Whittingham is taking in letting the players define the combinations for the new uniform sets.
Also making the news, it seems the Miami Hurricanes will try to resurrect the feared U legacy by introducing a black alternate jersey. Paul Lukas at Uni Watch Blog links to the new Miami Hurricanes jersey.
The black jersey may also be prepared with black pants, but the Canes signature white shell U helmets will remain unchanged. No word yet on when the "back in black" look will be unveiled by Miami, but it is expected to be a mid-season evening home game, rather than the inaugural game at Dolphins Stadium.
Comments:
Lennie Collins
posted on March 29, 2008 4:37 PM — 70.135.88.158 — link — abuse?
said:
Utah "new" jerseys do not look that different than last year's ones. Why are these teams introducing black in their official color? Ramblin' Gator, Post #2, how about Clemson's purple and orange! Maybe Miami can change to brown and white?
Lennie Collins
posted on March 29, 2008 4:54 PM — 70.135.88.158 — link — abuse? said:
What's next? LSU bringing back the purple pants with the gold jerseys? UCLA wearing powder blue pants with gold jerseys? How about this War Eagle Atlanta, Post #4...if Miami don't start winning soon they will "blackout" the games! Georgia didn't start this. It's just another way for teams to make(take) more money off the fans.
Regan said:
posted on March 29, 2008 6:46 PM — 208.104.91.9 — link — abuse?
Miami needs to return to their 2000-2003 uniform design. It was an awesome design that is proven to be successful. It was with this design that the 'Canes won 34 straight, won 1 (some say 2) national titles, and beat their good friends in Gainesville 41-16 in The Swamp in 2002.
The Hurricanes changed to a twill design in 2004 when they joined the ACC and began stumbling. It wasn't Coker - it was the uniforms. I absolutely guarantee it.
In the meantime, that uniform design had become quite popular with other schools, and when they adopted it...they all of a sudden got a lot better. Example? '07 Appy State, anyone?
I rest my case.
But yeah, Miami should be able to obliterate almost any opponent at home no matter what color they wear. Let Georgia keep the black jerseys worn for no reason.
Yes...I have an opinion on this issue. :-)
Tom Blogical
posted on March 29, 2008 7:35 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
The Utah player cartoon is carrying the ball like a loaf of bread and begging to fumble it.
Lennie Collins
posted on March 29, 2008 7:38 PM — 70.135.88.158 — link — abuse? said:
Regan, Post #6, yes you can have an opinion on this. That doesn't mean it is fact! Miami didn't realize that their inner city talent was going else where. It didn't have a thing to do with the Orange Bowl OR jerseys. Also some of that talent was wanna be gangtas and were kicked off the team.
posted on March 29, 2008 8:42 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?War Eagle Atlanta
said:
Yes, Tom. I feel like I could punch that ball out sitting all the way over here at my computer!
Lennie: Yea, Georgia didn't start it. I just hate when some gimmick like that coincides with a win and the masses think they've just seen a lightning strike.
Like Mars Blackmon said, It must be the shoes! No, Mars. Evidently it was the uniform...
Tom Blogical
posted on March 29, 2008 11:53 PM — 24.95.77.153 — link — abuse? said:
WEA:
Did you notice he's carrying it on the insecure side also? The artist never played the game.
exile824 said:
posted on March 31, 2008 8:50 AM — 209.82.168.215 — link — abuse?
Regan,
Did you catch any coverage of the Miami spring game? They're all saying that we've actually got an offense again. I am cautiously optimistic about all this, but it does look better than before.
As far as opinions, I like the black jerseys, but wondering how they'll look with the white helmets.
Go Canes...
Beat Florida
Beat FSU
posted on March 31, 2008 4:41 PM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse? said:
Who had the pastel green and orange first? Coral Gables, or Crockett and Tubbs?
Tom: You have to assume the sideline is on his left. He's just cutting back to the right so he won't go out of bounds.
I'm thinking that the coach makes him run stairs the next week in practice regardless...
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on March 31, 2008 8:40 PM — 216.10.193.23 — link — abuse?
WEA, a number of sources (which reference each other - how's that for circular logic?) state that the colors of UM (a.k.a. "The [P]U") were selected in the 1920s and are a reference to the colors of the fruit and leaves of an orange tree. Probably not coincidentally, the 1920s were the height of the art-deco era, which spawned the initial popularity of the Miami Vice color combinations.
I think I finally understand why I despise that color combination (and no, it has nothing to do with the fact that I'm a fan of GT and UF). I stumbled into an article on wikipedia about school colors...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_colors
Which lead me to an article on the rule of tincture...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_tincture
In heraldry (which is the origin of most school color combinations) you are not supposed to combine "color with color" or "metal with metal". This is why no school has chosen silver and gold for their school colors (that I know of). Sadly, at least one school - Miami - has chosen to blend color with color in that very unpleasing combination of orange and green.
Note to Gator Boys, I described the colors as "pale" since they are relatively pale when compared to UF's orange or Oregon's green, for instance.
My gawd, is it football season yet??!!
Canes305
posted on March 31, 2008 10:13 PM — 72.192.187.236 — link — abuse? said:
You sure it was the uniform that caused them to stumble? Are you sure that joining a somewhat competitive conference had nothing to do with it?
Hey Matt - You think Larry Coker's lack of recruiting might've had to do anything with it? Old Man River inherited arguably the best team ever in college football (17 NFL first rounders on that '01 squad) and in a matter of years he had them at 7-6.
Florida State ran train in the ACC for over a decade and absolutely OWNED the conference... Miami owned Florida State in the 80s, early 90s, hit probation and then owned 'em again from 2000-2004.
If the Noles could beat up on the ACC as long as they did, there's NO reason a loaded Canes team wouldn't as well. Miami 2000-2003 would've made mince meat of the ACC. Just so happens the Canes made the move the year Coker's lack of recruiting and developing started showing chinks in the armor.
But hey, typical Gator response - pointing to he conference. Maybe you can blame the downward spiral on a lack of attendance or whatever lame card UiF fans love to play.
Oh yeah, and it's still SIX straight against the 'Turds. Not since 1985, my friend.
Beat us consistently and win a few more titles before you attempt to talk smack about The U.
Florida - the arrogance of Notre Dame and the tradition of Wake Forest.
gatorhippy
posted on March 31, 2008 10:31 PM — 70.121.155.98 — link — abuse? said:
Canes305 (#17):
You're right...
It definitely wasn't the uniforms...
It was in fact that the Canes have just sucked lately...
I got the feeling that begins to turn the corner this year and am surely glad to have UCG in Hogtown this year as that should keep UF's chances a little better...
It's 2013 that's got me decidedly worried...
GatorMatt
posted on March 31, 2008 10:34 PM — 70.171.36.78 — link — abuse? said:
#17,
The Hurricane players aren't going to start swinging helmets and crutches at Florida players are they? We know there is a huge talent/coaching gap between the two teams. I'm just concerned Thug U is going to try and even the odds against them
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on March 31, 2008 10:35 PM — 216.10.193.23 — link — abuse?
You think Larry Coker's lack of recruiting might've had to do anything with it?
I'm with you on this one. Coker may do many things well, but recruiting isn't one of them.
Florida - the arrogance of Notre Dame and the tradition of Wake Forest.
Well, that's pretty funny! But I have to make two points in response. First...
Nobody is more arrogant than Notre Dame
...and second, Florida has played 180 more football games than Miami and won 91 more, so you can scoff at UF's recent record against Miami, but you look kinda silly making fun of UF's tradition.
BTW, I'm a Georgia Tech alumnus. How's Miami been doing in that series? ;)
TampaGator said:
posted on April 1, 2008 1:22 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Cane305:
The U: Tuition equal to Notre Dame's (...and Harvard's, and Yale's...) for education inferior to many community colleges'...
...and a "tradition"--including rented stadium(s) for a home--envied only by the Bloods and Cripps.
The closest thing the U had to "tradition" is about to be rubble foundation for the Marlins' new ball park.
The saddest part: y'all not only sat silently by as President Shala-la-la-la-la tore down your FB program...you applauded her.
Nice.
GO GATORS!!TampaGator said:
posted on April 1, 2008 1:22 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Cane305:
The U: Tuition equal to Notre Dame's (...and Harvard's, and Yale's...) for education inferior to many community colleges'...
...and a "tradition"--including rented stadium(s) for a home--envied only by the Bloods and Cripps.
The closest thing the U had to "tradition" is about to be rubble foundation for the Marlins' new ball park.
The saddest part: y'all not only sat silently by as President Shala-la-la-la-la tore down your FB program...you applauded her.
Nice.
GO GATORS!!
posted on April 1, 2008 9:00 AM — 150.176.193.143 — link — abuse? said:
I like the new uniforms for The U. I mean the one with a big block U in concrete on the mountains behind the school.
Maybe other schools known by that name, with half the number of U's in their name at the University of Utah, should explain why the insist on their name?
Number of Students? Oldest University? Research funding from private and government funding? By these standards, of those using the name, Utah is truly "The U".
Maybe imposters in Coral Gables have posted more spectacular seasons in football of late, but is that all their is to a university? Or what does the U stand for?
As for Utah adding a black shirt, I think it is a Georgia marketing ripoff. Whats next, having the entire team run on field after the opening touchdown?
GatorMatt
posted on April 1, 2008 11:54 AM — 128.227.83.142 — link — abuse? said:
#26,
Perhaps Miami can go crawling back to them. They haven't been competitive in the ACC as of late. Now that UNC, NC State, Georgia Tech, and Virgina have become too much for them, I think it's time for them to slink back to the BE. Maybe then they can bring the bandwagon fans out of hiding
gatorhippy
posted on April 1, 2008 1:26 PM — 70.121.155.98 — link — abuse? said:
Honestly, I love the Miami colors...
The forest green looks pretty bad @$$ imo...
Especially when the Canes are away and wear the green pants...
And the orange is pretty pimp too...
I wish UF would suit up in orange every once in awhile...
Not all the time mind you, but once a year would be cool...
Either for UK, just to set us apart...
Or UT to see if we could confuse them a bit...
"Why are our fans making so much noise when we got the ball, Coach?"
"Cuz we're in Gainsville, moron! Now stop throwing to the guys in orange!!!"
I'd also like to see UF return to a white shell on the helmet like we did for the throwback game in 2006...
I LOVE that look...
Lennie Collins
posted on April 1, 2008 4:18 PM — 70.135.88.158 — link — abuse? said:
I like Miami uniforms from the 80's. I wish they would keep the green pants and jerseys BUT return to that design. As far as Florida...I wish the would keep the orange helmets BUT return to the UF design with the alligator on it. Also bring back the orange pants! Like John Witherspoon would say...You need to co-ordinate, you need to co-ordinate!
gatorhippy
posted on April 1, 2008 6:27 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse? said:
Lennie (#30):
Florida's helmet design has never in the history of the program sported an alligator logo on the side of the helmet...
Nor was the UF top/bottom design with the alligator silhouette in the U ever used on the helmets either...
The helemts have always had a UF print logo, player numbers or solely a capital F on the side of it until 1979 when they adopted the script Gators logo used today...
Only in one instance, I believe in the VERY early sixties did they deviate from the above schemes in a bowl game when they were playing Penn State and they sported the Confederate flag on the side...
However, throughout the sixties, UF was known for switching helmet colors or designs for certain games during the season...
Sometimes they used as many as 3 different helemt looks in a season...
Lennie Collins
posted on April 1, 2008 7:34 PM — 70.135.88.158 — link — abuse? said:
Gatorhippy, Post #31, you are correct! I am going to say it now...they should use that design or the current "gator" logo on the pants on a orange shell and bring back the orange pants! At least you knew what logo I am talking about. I think it was "cool".
Regan said:
posted on April 1, 2008 8:51 PM — 75.182.53.208 — link — abuse?
Ramblin' Gator (#15):
Miami's colors, according to the official website:
"UM’s school colors were selected in 1926. The colors of the Florida orange tree represent UM. Orange symbolizes the fruit of the tree, green represents the leaves and white, the blossoms. "
http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/trads/mifl-colors.html
Although, one must appreciate your reasoning and research...
Regan said:
posted on April 1, 2008 8:54 PM — 75.182.53.208 — link — abuse?
exile824 (#13):
I heard that the Defense won, but only by 3 points or so. The 3 QB's got the attention, of course due to the anticipation behind...well, the obvious.
I'm with you on the cautious optimism side of the fence...
Regan said:
posted on April 1, 2008 9:01 PM — 75.182.53.208 — link — abuse?
GatorMatt (#16):
Canes305 (#17):
gatorhippy (#18):All true points, and all of the factors that each of you have brought up are a direct result of the bad mojo from the fact that the uniforms were changed.
Absolutely no doubt...
We can have a contest on pointless stubbornness on the subject if yall want, but I'm already up by 2 touchdowns. :-)
Lennie Collins
posted on April 1, 2008 9:32 PM — 70.135.88.158 — link — abuse? said:
To give the Utes some air play...I think they would look al'ight with black jerseys with their crimsom pants. Even though black is not in their official color scheme! What's a Ute? I know it's an Native American tribe for which the state of Utah is name after. I just had to quote Fred Gwynne's line from My Cousin Vinny!
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on April 1, 2008 9:38 PM — 216.10.193.22 — link — abuse?
#33: Regan, thanks for the complement, though I'm not sure what your point is with the reference to the UM web site. If you will take note of the first paragraph of my post #15...
...selected in the 1920s and are a reference to the colors of the fruit and leaves of an orange tree
In all candor, it's just a matter of taste and that color combination does not appeal to me. As a UF and GT fan, it pains me to admit that red and black is probably my favorite color combination for a sports team.
Lennie Collins
posted on April 1, 2008 10:17 PM — 70.135.88.158 — link — abuse? said:
Ramblin' Gator's Post #37 says it all...it's a matter of taste. There has to be different color schemes. I am waiting for the day when a team is bold enough to put pink in theirs! At least Miami's makes sense. Orange=the fruit and green= the leaves. Miami...don't change a thing BUT don't add black!
Tomcat said:
posted on April 2, 2008 1:32 AM — 70.243.66.100 — link — abuse?
It doesnt really matter what kind of uniforms any team wears, because when they play the Texas Longhorns they will lose against a team with traditional uniforns.
BTW hey Lennie check out the Buckeye fan on the wareagle post, I think he said something against a OU coach or something!
Can you help setem straight-Thanks Man
Hookem-Horns
Sicem-Bears-Beat OU
Go TCU Frogs-beat OU
Gigem-Aggies-beat OU
Go Rice OwlsLennie Collins
posted on April 2, 2008 6:01 AM — 70.135.88.158 — link — abuse? said:
Tomcat, Post #39, this is about Miami and Utah "new" jerseys! I am going to keep it on that! I am amazed and disappointed In YOU, Tomcat! YOU, Tomcat always got to throw Texas in a thread even when Texas is not mentioned. If I recall the last time Texas played Miami in 1991 It was Miami 46 and Texas 3. Miami +43 and Texas -43! Again YOU, Tomcat come with distorted facts. So I believe it is Texas that would get beaten in it's traditional jerseys! I know they have not played Utah and in my opinion Texas would win in Austin and Utah would win in Salt Lake City!
TampaGator said:
posted on April 2, 2008 6:14 AM — 64.12.116.136 — link — abuse?
Gatorhip/#28,31:
I like the uniforms just the way they are; no need to mess with a great thing. The inconsistency of the helmet design of the '60's you described was, imo, a flaw of our beloved FB program. The value UF has invested in the classic script Gators on the helment is priceless.
The block "F" has its place--square in the middle of Florida Field, and as THE classic design for UF ballcaps. No need to compromise the value built into the helmet. For precedent on the matter, check out Pittsburgh's recently twice changed helmets.
In sum:
Programs who have messed with their shells: Minnesota
Mich. State.
Pittsburgh
Ole MissPrograms with consistent shells:
UF
LSU
Tenn
Penn State
Notre Dame
Miami
FSU
Michigan
tOSU
USC
Texas
OUNo question which set of peers is preferable.
Re. Miami's unis: I grew up in citrus country; didn't need any research to tell me the color scheme was inspired by orange trees. In fact, I always found it ironic that UF didn't adopt those as its colors due to that fact, and our ancestor being Florida Ag. Col, and Ben Hill Griffin citrus connection; but I never regretted the O&B.
b/t/w: they're are 2 conflicting schools of thought as to the origin of UF's O&B:
1. Accidentally chosen when the Millers ordred the banners which inspired the alligator mascot back in '07 I believe (Phil Miller's kid in law school at UVA at the time; their colors are navy blue and orange);
2. The orange came from FAC (orange and black), and the blue from East FL Seminary (blue & white).
(or vice versa), so they compromised.Any insight here?
GO GATORS!!
40 Acres of Burnt Orange
posted on April 2, 2008 8:24 AM — 192.94.94.105 — link — abuse? said:
Lennie, man what an a$$ kicking that was from Miami. Thanks John Mackovic. I personally think we are at a point with these new jerseys that they all are beginning to look the same to me. Oregon State, Maryland, App St, now Utah they all look the same to me with different colors. Hopefully the schools with the traditional jerseys won't start forcing these new age jerseys on us.
HookEmHorns!
exile824 said:
posted on April 2, 2008 10:23 AM — 209.82.168.215 — link — abuse?
When we spend this much time arguing about uniform colors, we all seriously need some type of 12-step program for college football addiction.
BUT... with all the gator types sounding off, I still say Miami will beat the Gators, in the Swamp, this year, with mostly true freshmen starting!
we'll know for sure in about 5 months and 4 days
GO CANES!
Ramblin' Gator said:
posted on April 3, 2008 4:33 PM — 216.10.193.22 — link — abuse?
#44...
Hello, my name is Ramblin' Gator, and I'm a college football addict.
Hello Ramblin' Gator!
I haven't seen a college football game in almost four months now.
(soft, polite applause)
Jeez, maybe I know too much about 12-step programs!
Meanwhile, I'm going to start writing down the names of all the Canes fans who are predicting victory over the Gators this fall. I don't know who will win that game, but neither do they. I won't have to eat my words and they probably will. Having their names recorded will permit me a good "last laugh" posting if that game turns out as the experts anticipate.
Spartacus
posted on April 4, 2008 1:37 AM — 69.231.10.67 — link — abuse? said:
Regan (#6),
I completely agree with the changing of the uniform idea. I know it must have taken alot out of that team.
Same thing happens to me when my wife insists that I wear pink leotards out in public. For some strange reason - I just never feel like quite the same guy. I mean, I think that I probably lose my competitive edge or something. I find it kinda hard to look another man back square in the eye. You know - things like that.
So, I'm pretty sure that changing the Canes unis is probably the most likely culprit. I've also noticed the reverse form of this phenomena. When they put OD green fatigues on me - I became an insane animal. I would suggest that the Canes go with the OD Green or camaflouged form of uniform. They could use the desert or forest colors depending on home or away games. This could make the difference. Too bad they couldn't just let them have .50 Caliber machine guns also - that way I'm quite sure that the Canes might go unbeaten and win another National Championship.Tommie Trojan
gatorhippy
said:
posted on March 29, 2008 2:55 PM — 70.121.155.98 — link — abuse?What?!?!?
No "Butt Buddies" patch?