September 28, 2005
VT-WVU: A Rivalry's Meltdown
WVU commenter EER14 had a couple of good thoughts on the upcoming Tech-WVU matchup in a WVU-ECU postgame thread on Fanblogs Big East Tuesday morning, and the Roanoke Times followed up Wednesday morning with a good article on the Hokie players' perspective. EER14 is right that this rivalry has become huge, and that it's disappointing it must end.
But Mountaineer fans wondering why need only look in the mirror. A rivalry that had once been intense but mostly-civil got grossly out of control following the rise of WVU's riot culture in the past 5-6 years, and Virginia Tech's escape to the ACC tossed gasoline on the burning Morgantown couches. To be honest, WVU would have been an outside hope anyway for the ACC's twelfth spot, but their fan base ended discussions before they ever started. Rumor was that Jim Weaver and WVU AD Ed Pastilong discussed continuing the rivalry at a neutral site like FedEx Field, but adding in-stadium beer sales to this matchup would have been asking for a disaster.
Hokie fans will travel just about anywhere, but I'd be surprised to see more than a thousand of us at Mountaineer Field on Saturday. Between my usual traveling group of friends, we've done Charlottesville three times, Pittsburgh twice, Miami twice, New Orleans twice, FedEx Field (P.G. County), Nashville, Jacksonville, Phoenix, Durham, and we'll get College Park (P.G. again!) later in October, but none of us will touch Morgantown. It isn't safe there, and that's no way to enjoy a football game.
Comments:
portis said:
posted on September 28, 2005 2:07 PM — 24.140.92.2 — link — abuse?
WVU has one of the biggest home field advantages of any school in Division I. WVU would never take the money and run for the ACC in the same way that BC, Miami, and the VT Chokies have. Painting every WVU fan as a couch burning idiot is paint with a very broad brush. We will see who gets the final say around 4 on Saturday. GO EERS!
Harry said:
posted on September 28, 2005 2:45 PM — 157.182.121.108 — link — abuse?
As a Roanoke, VA native, VMI grad, and now a loyal WVU fan I want to respond to the allegations that WVU fans are so much worse than Va. Tech fans. I specifically remember being in Blacksburg for the Virginia Tech-LSU game a few years ago, and watching Virginia Tech fans steal, harass, yell, curse, and riot against LSU fans the Friday night before the game. Get off your high horse. I have family and friends who are Tech fans coming up to this game this weekend because I know that WVU fans are not as bad as Va. Tech fans would have you believe. Va. Tech fans say WVU fans are bad and out-of-control because they needed an excuse for the 2003 game where WVU crushed #3 Va. Tech 28-7 on national television.
Wahoowa said:
posted on September 28, 2005 3:17 PM — 129.252.82.177 — link — abuse?
Here's a thought --- both schools have classless fans, and both have some decent fans. I recall being harassed in Charlotte a few years back by extremely obnoxious West "by God" Virginia fans prior to our complete dismantling of them, and I have had similar treatment by Chokie fans too. But by in large I don't think it is fair to blame the end of the rivalry on the fans alone. I think the fact that VPI has to play a real conference schedule now means that they want an easier non-conference slate.
Jeremy Collins said:
posted on September 28, 2005 3:26 PM — 167.239.198.91 — link — abuse?
WVU isn't safe? I have not heard of one injury at a WVU game. I love going up to Morgantown and cheering my head off, sure with some beer in my system but still. WVU has one of the best enviroments for colleg football. If you want to talk about riots then what about Ohio State Buckeyes and when they started a riot after winning the national championship and they are number 3 on your home field advantage list. WVU gets loud very loud and if you can't stand loud and proud fans then stay at home with you hokie friends and watch the game on the couch. I would rather you do that than to put more of that ugly brown and orange in West Virginia.
WVU is a great place to really take in college football at it's best. You are not supposed to not like your rival.
GO MOUTAINEERS BEAT THE HOKIES!!!!
leftovers said:
posted on September 28, 2005 3:28 PM — 205.143.204.110 — link — abuse?
Ummm, portis, the big east offered Va Tech and Miami similar contracts at 5 years and 45 million to stay in the conference-so they didnt exactly take the money and run. Once Miami jumped, Va Tech (like BC, Syarcuse, and WVU) realized the trouble the Big East was in and made sure their futures were going to be set. Luckily for Va Tech and BC, they are not going down with the sinking ship that is Big East football. FYI- BC was rumored to have quite the offer as well to stay in the Big East. As i posted on another thread-The BCS contract is up at the end of 2006 and for the sake of the Big East conference, the BCS better go away because there is NO CHANCE the Big east will remain an automatic bid in the BCS. The conference would lose millions of dollars and places like WVU who has re-amped facilities would be screwed. Why was the Big East offering these amounts of money? Because without those schools, your conference can go in a few BAD directions. If the Big East loses its BCS position-The Big East could disintegrate, spawning a huge shakeup that would dramatically shake the college sports (not football-think hoops and non profit teams) landscape. Or the Big East could operate as a virtual mid-major conference. Or it could fracture into two conferences, with the football schools separating themselves.
AHAHAHA-and WVU would have never taken the money and run to the ACC-who are you kidding?!?! Thats right, WVU administration has too much pride with their current conference to give up their chance at the share of money they would get year in and year out because of the BCS status the ACC will NOT be losing. But hey, it might turn out to be a good thing if the BCS goes away. But, the people that sign the checks and make all the money are not going to get rid of the current system, they will just figure out ways to make payday even bigger and make fans complain more about it.
BobbyO said:
posted on September 28, 2005 3:47 PM — 66.45.73.136 — link — abuse?
"WVU isn't safe?"
read this article and ask me that question again.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/sports/s_161567.html
posted on September 28, 2005 4:10 PM — 208.54.14.33 — link — abuse?Josh Crockett said:
portis: your conference replaced Miami and Virginia Tech with South Florida and Louisville. Find me someone -- anyone -- who thinks that's an even trade. Particularly someone with cash, like a television network or a bowl game. By the way, hope you guys don't like Jacksonville trips, because the Gator Bowl is running away screaming from the wreckage of your conference. And just wait to see what happens after the BCS re-up in 2009. Pittsburgh and Syracuse have options. You do not.
Second, WVU has no call to play holier-than-thou on conference affiliations. In 1994, the eight Big East football schools were going to break away and form a new conference if all four then-football-only schools (WVU, Rutgers, VT, and Temple) were not admitted to the all-sports conference. WVU and Rutgers were let in; VT and Temple were told that 12 was the maximum size for the basketball conference (which, of course, was a lie, as Notre Dame got in 6 months later). Did WVU turn down the jump from the A-10 out of solidarity? Hell no -- nor should it have. Did the blessed six quit the BE as promised? Nope -- they left us for dead (and if Temple had any fans left, they'd be angrier than we are, as their program truly has died). Turnabout sucks, doesn't it?
Anyone claiming WVU would not have taken, and will not take, an ACC, SEC or Big Ten bid out of a sense of loyalty to Rutgers, UConn, SU and Pitt is $imply blind to the fact$. To borrow a line: "Don't get stuck on stupid."
And to the moral-equivalence types: show me VT fans burning couches, apartment doors and telephone poles EVERY SINGLE TIME a significant football game happens. We have our share of people who are jack@$$es to visiting fans, sure, and I wish they weren't there. We need to put more cops out in the tailgating lots pregame to solve that problem. But we don't have a national reputation for destructive behavior because we haven't earned it.
You can make your stadium extremely inhospitable to visiting teams without the idiocy. Texas A&M manages it every game. But at WVU, a great rivalry is ending because their fans are out of control to a level only matched by Maryland basketball fans. And that's a bad thing for college football.Leftovers said:
posted on September 28, 2005 4:17 PM — 205.143.204.110 — link — abuse?
Every big east football team is in trouble. Why build huge facilities and advertise your program? To get recruits. Why get recruits? To make the big bowl. Why make the big bowl? To get the green. Its a never-ending loop. Currently the BCS controls the green (the backbone of the loop). The BCS most likely isnt going anywhere. The big east is losing the BCS (no way is two seasons going to recovery any type of swagger the conference may of had). Now the loop is going backwards. No big bowl means no big name recruits will come to your school. No big recruits means no brand new gyms and sky boxes in your stadium.
I cant browse to that article but it should read-WE ADVISE YOU EVACUATE AND FIND WORK ELSEWHERE. Even if the program has to take an initial loss and spends years of rebounding, get out if you can.
rb said:
posted on September 28, 2005 4:19 PM — 68.21.103.162 — link — abuse?
Well, based on a pragmatic view, the Big LEast doesn't deserve an automatic bid. But, since when does NCAA football take common sense or quality-of-the-game issues into account when making decisions?
Mike Tranghese wants his baby, no matter how weak it may be, to keep it's auto bowl bid.
And thus it will be so as long as there remains weak leadership among the conference heads who won't stand up for a better system.
Jason Dearing said:
posted on September 28, 2005 4:22 PM — 70.36.52.111 — link — abuse?
WVU has no chance at the SEC. The SEC will not expand past its current membership of 12. Why has WVU won 4 games and are still unranked? Maybe because the team is weak and have shown that so far in beating a young team in Syracuse who is addapting to a new coach and a new system. A down on its luck Maryland squad, a 1 AA opponent in Wofford, and a ECU team that is also adjusting to a new staff. What about these wins makes you so confident? I stood on Worsham Field last year and watched as your proud students sat in the endzone and flicked off VT's students, how disgraceful is that? Pathetic is turning a girls car over and destroying it because you won a basketball game. Act like you have been there. Have some class.
HokieFan said:
posted on September 28, 2005 4:50 PM — 208.253.77.234 — link — abuse?
WVU is not the safest place to visit. In 1999 my friends and I (students at the time) went to the Virginia Tech-WVU game. That is the year Tech went to the National Championship game, but was almost up ended by WVU. On the way out we had all types of things thrown at us. One student actually hit one of my friends. The funny thing is, he did it right in front of a police officer and the officer arrested the WVU student.
However, I have to admit that Blacksburg is not the best place to visit if your not a Hokie fan. Yet, I have never seen VT fans throw stuff at visiting teams or their fans. And after the game is over, we will be more than happy to drink with you.92EER said:
posted on September 28, 2005 10:17 PM — 24.125.92.12 — link — abuse?
Maybe Beamer and Virginia Tech can have Gov. Warner protect them from those meanies in Morgantown the same way they got him to weasel them into the ACC. Morgantown is a great place for football, don't believe the media hype. Too bad the rivalry is ending. We'll miss seeing those hideous orange uniforms....Go Mountaineers!!
MountieFanNW said:
posted on September 29, 2005 5:09 AM — 207.132.131.54 — link — abuse?
I have to dispute the whole Lane Stadium is safer than WVU's Milan Puskar statement by a host of people on this blog. I traveled to Lane Stadium for the WVU-VT game in 2002 and walking in to the stadium in my WVU gear was spat upon by numerous VT fans. I hadn't said anything to these people. My buddy and I quickly seated ourselves and enjoyed an excellent game that saw the Mountaineers winning YET AGAIN over the Chokies. I will say this, at the end of the game as the WVU players gathered around our visitor section to sing "Country Roads" with us the Hokie fans quietly filed out of the stadium. Still, I'll never forget being spit on.
mountaineerndixie said:
posted on September 29, 2005 7:05 AM — 216.198.79.246 — link — abuse?
This rivalry isn't ending because of the WVU fans. The VT staff wants to make it look that way, when in reality they need easier ooc games because of their upgraded ACC schedule.
I've been spat on and had my car vandalized at Lane Stadium but I've also had horrible treatment at OSU and Pitt. It happens everywhere, but it's the fires in Morgantown in 2003 that get the spotlight, it seems.
I hate to see this rivalry end, but if the fans at VT are gonna scream about their "horrible treatment" at the 2003 game, just end it. I think VT and BC have proven that a 3rd place Big East team can play with the ACC if they are given the chance. WVU, Syracuse and (eventually) Pitt could too and we know it. BC just had a bigger market and VT had a strongarmed Governor, that's the only difference.
If the BCS membership was truly based on the stronger programs, the Dukes and Baylors of the world wouldn't get a piece of the pie just because they submit to beatings by a couple more higher profile teams. If it's gonna be based on the "big-time" programs, let's use season tickets, attendance, apparel sales and all of the factors that put the money into the teams and the NCAA, as well as graduation rates, as a way of determining membership. But, they can't do that because some of the football factories wouldn't make it. They have to keep it political to keep the membership the way they want it.....so, we'll take that bid any way we have to. We have put as much into it as most other teams and deserve to have access to the highest level of competition.
I hate the BCS, despite WVU now being eligible for it, because it kicks true competition in the teeth......
EER14 said:
posted on September 29, 2005 10:54 AM — 129.71.238.253 — link — abuse?
If or when the Big East folds, where do you see
WVU, Syracuse and Pitt ? I think 1-A Ind., with Notre Dame. When you comment, could the Mountaineer Haters try not to be nasty !! As for the student problems, I took my 10 year old son to the Gator Bowl last year against Florida State
and we had a great time, both sides. The year prior when we played Maryland in the Gator Bowl..it was a very different story...lets just say I am glad I did not take my son ! I have been very selective which games I take my son. This year we are going to Cincy, UCONN and Pitt games. I wanted to take him to the Virginia Tech game but decided not to because of what could or may happen..Both sides fans!! That is a sad state of affairs, he really wanted to go to that game. Go EERS !!!!!!!!!!gaffbag said:
posted on September 29, 2005 11:12 AM — 138.88.66.251 — link — abuse?
Conference Realignment:
What are people's thoughts on how this will play out? You just get the sense that the Big East can't continue to survive in its current form as a serious football conference. What exactly do Cincinnati, Syracuse and South Florida have in common anyway? The Big Ten is one team away from hosting a conference championship game (and generating all of the money which comes along with it) - and given the fragility of the Big East something's gotta give.
Notre Dame is playing like they're in their contract year looking toward free agency, but they're NBC deal is already intact through 2010. They have spurned the Big 10 enough times, and I imagine they feel they're fortunes look too good in the Weis era to reverse course now.
So who does the Big 10 pick up? The Big 10 is almost exclusively large state school (Northwestern I believe is the only exception) so West Virginia might make sense based upon both that and its geography. But, with all due respect to WVU, I can't imagine the Big 10 feels that its academics are on par with the other major research universities it has in its midst. (No major media market also hurts).
Syracuse could theoretically be an option. It is very solid academically, and is on the largest private universities in the nation. I imagine, given Syracuse's rather spotty football record in recent years they may be more focused on the fortunes of their oustanding basketball program. Although the Big Ten is a solid basketball conference, the teams in the Big East (UConn, St. John's, Villanova, etc...) just seem to be a much better fit for Syracuse travel-wise.
So that would leave Pitt, a large public school (I believe) in what many would consider the mid-west. Pitt is a much stronger academic institution than WVU and it would provide a natural rivalry for Penn State, who is somewhat geographically misplaced in the Big Ten currently.
Unfortunately the Backyard Brawl may end up going the way of the VT-WVU rivalry should this go down. I just can't imagine the Big 10 won't move towards a 12-team, conference championship alignment within the next 3-4 years, and and offer to Pitt might be too good for that school to pass up.
Any thoughts?
portis said:
posted on September 29, 2005 11:46 AM — 24.140.92.2 — link — abuse?
It would appear that I have "ruffled the feathers" of some VT fans. You guys have obviously done your research and know the history of the Big East, even dating back to 1994, very impressive. Obviously the move hurt the Big East, and added more firepower to the already strong ACC. They have taken away the credibility of the Big East at the expense of all the remaining schools still in the conference. "The Experts" have always viewed WVU in a negative light. That will probably never change.
WVU/VT has always been a great game to watch, and WVU has finally caught up in the recruiting war. I agree with mountaineerndixie about the strength of schedule argument. It seems that when VT plays a cupcake, nothing is said and praise is given as to what a great performance they put on. However when WVU plays a cupcake because a school backed out of a contract in Feb05', and they had to sign anybody just to get a game, the media jumps all over that. This team certainly isn't as talented as some WVU teams in the past, but it's not about talent when playing your hated rival.
I was on the sidelines in '99 when the eldest Vick scrambled down the sidelines with under 1 minute to go to set up the field goal that won the game. The second coming of Vick is good, but nowhere near the freak his brother was. He hasn't been challenged with a loud and rowdy crowd, which he will face on Saturday. Many "experts" point to the dismal performance put on by WVU in the second half against ECU. Coach Rod wasn't showing VT anything to go off of for this game. We had 3rd string lineman in at one point, and I will give you a last name your sure to remember after the game Saturday....Dingle. Johnny Dingle will bring Mrs. Vick much pain come Saturday, and much joy to the hearts of the Mountaineer Fans. Complain and moan all you want about our reputation, but one thing "the experts" around the country know is that is it very, very difficult to come to Mountaineer Field and get a victory, especially for a pot smoking quarterback with only 5 starts under his belt. The game will be and intense, grind it out contest, with WVU getting the final victory in the series.
VTBrad said:
posted on September 29, 2005 12:23 PM — 66.45.73.136 — link — abuse?
What is it going to say about WVU's team when this pot smoking QB lights up the mounties D like a phat phillie. I LOVE IT! I can't wait for this game. It will be a good one.
What would sports be without rival games like this one?
VTBobb said:
posted on September 29, 2005 1:15 PM — 208.229.147.26 — link — abuse?
As a Hokie Alum and former WV resident, I have to take exception to comments from both sides of the aisle.
To begin with, I'm sorry to see this rivalry end, just as I was sorry to see our Big East affiliation end (even though it was obviously the best thing for our program). The fact is, our Big East membership (my understanding is that WVU was a strong advocate for our inclusion), played an integral part in the building of our success.
I was a season ticket holder through the building years, and I witnessed a noticeable decline in the class of Hokie fans at the games. By and large, the fans at Lane Stadium are still just very enthusiastic, highly vocal and harmless. Unfortunately, as is probably the case in Morgantown, a small number of drunken idiots can reflect poorly on the rest of us. Ignoring the minor “riots”/fires after victories, the real problem in Morgantown is that there have been numerous other highly publicized incidents over the years (throwing of trashcans at opposing players, violent shaking of an ambulance trying to remove an injured Miami player) that are completely indefensible. Unfortunately, at the time, the perception was that little was/could be done by the administration to prevent such occurrences. I believe WVU has, in fact, addressed the problem.
I have actually attended several VT-WVU games in Morgantown, in VT gear, actually sitting in the WVU student section, including in 1999. I have never had any bad experiences there. Sure, I took a lot of ribbing and jeers, but nothing over the line. It probably helped that I was with several WVU fans, but I never felt uncomfortable attending a game there.
At any major college football game, regardless of who is playing, the mix of tailgating, enthusiasm/passion for your team and high emotions is going to result in there being some a**hole that will feel the need to denigrate the image of their school.
EER14 said:
posted on September 29, 2005 1:48 PM — 129.71.238.253 — link — abuse?
Good comments VTBobb, but I have yet to read anywhere where a WVU fan has wished the death of other human beings as did harry Paratestes. Nice comments Harry, I guess that means children also. I could say many things right now, but will not. I think VTBobb said enough. It is clear that you yourself have not attended a major University, you are very sick ! I would even bet at this point most VT fans hope you are not a VT fan.
Lets Goooo Mountaineers.
posted on September 29, 2005 4:37 PM — 208.54.14.33 — link — abuse?
For everyone's info, "Harry" is posting from New York City. If he ever attended VT, it just goes to show, you can temporarily take the jack@$$ out of New York, but you can never take the New York out of the jack@$$. On behalf of all Hokies everywhere, Harry, go back to rooting for Notre Dame like all the other subway alumni.
portis, if you'll recall, VT got no end of crap for a weak schedule in '99. And WVU's not alone in having teams back out of contracts -- we just had Wisconsin back out on us for '08/'09, and Auburn for '10/'11, so we're probably screwed into playing I-AA schools and ECU too. Drop the persecution complex; that more than anything is what's fueling the mess this rivalry has become.
rockin' ron said:
posted on September 29, 2005 10:42 PM — 69.68.94.87 — link — abuse?
The Hokies will crush WVU, even if a lot of points come from turnovers. The Hokies are favored by at least 10 - they'll win by at least 20. WVU lost a ton of starters, and doesn't have Rasheed Marshall to anchor them. But they are well coached, the game is home for them - otherwise it would look like Ga Tech. I'm only slightly disappointed that Tech's 45 -point victory margin in games 2 & 3 shrunk to only 44 versus the Ramblin' Wreck.
Bryan said:
posted on September 30, 2005 11:18 AM — 152.50.0.194 — link — abuse?
I'm not a fan of either team, just a huge college fan in general, but after reading all of this hostility, I have to admit I'm fired up for this game. I'll be watching on Saturday. By the way, I think VT comes through with the road win. Too much defense, too much special teams. Not sold on what WVU has done this year.
Jim said:
posted on September 30, 2005 1:38 PM — 24.158.85.66 — link — abuse?
I am a WVU fan, I have been to WVU-Tech games in Morgantown and Blacksburg. I have never personally seen physical violence. I have seen and been the victim of verbal abuse, mostly, if not all, from liquored up 18-22 year olds.
The Big East, like you say is in serious trouble. I think they have a chance. Va Tech and Miami were big losses, BC will never fit in the ACC and hurt themselves as much as they hurt the Big East but they will get large sums of cash for it.
If we can all be honest Louisville is better now than Va Tech was when they came in the conference, sure they don't have Miami like tech did but I think they can be good, good enough? I don't know.
UConn knows how to build a program, Pitt at one time was as feared as any team Miami, Fl. State or Notre Dame ever sent on the field.
The problem is time. As for now I hope WVU can pull it off but I saw Tech against Ga Tech and didn't like what I saw.
posted on September 30, 2005 2:42 PM — 208.54.14.33 — link — abuse?
EER14: Auburn decided a couple years ago that they wanted to play seven home games every year for financial reasons. In an 11-game season, that allows them NO OOC road games, and our deal was for a home-and-home (as any self-respecting BCS school would require). As an aside, what that has meant for Auburn's schedule is that they play WAC and I-AA teams an awful lot -- which led directly to them not making the national championship game last year. An SEC East team can get away with that crap, but an SEC West team cannot.
Wisconsin's excuse was more BS. Barry Alvarez is retiring from coaching at the end of this season to become AD only, and his excuse was that he didn't want to saddle a new coach with having to play us. Of course, that coach will be in years 3 and 4 of his tenure by the time our games were scheduled... but whatever.
We've tried twice to do a one-time deal with Tennessee at Bristol Motor Speedway, but the Vols have never been interested. Both the VT and Texas A&M fanbases would love to get a regular deal going, as we're basically twin institutions, but nobody official appears interested. Nebraska and Penn State rumors keep popping up too, but at this point I don't believe anything until I'm holding a ticket.
WVUcav said:
posted on September 30, 2005 3:40 PM — 157.182.105.1 — link — abuse?
Wahoowa,
If WVU fans are classless how can you defend the crap from the UVA "Pep Band". Those trustfund wankers are classless. I went to UVA undergrad and WVU for my doctorate and I just don't see how you can call us classless. Having lived in Lexington, VA for a long time, I have always felt safer in Morgantown than B-burg. Charlottesville is a pretty lame place to go to a game compared to either, however.
Ron Mexico said:
posted on October 1, 2005 3:27 PM — 68.48.83.166 — link — abuse?
PARTY in BLACKSBURG !!!
The pot-smoking, underage sexual assulting, wreckless driving Marcus Vick will be flipping everyone the bird TONIGHT !!! (what a thug-punk)
..??? Will his Herpes infected brother Mike be there ???....
mountiefan said:
posted on October 2, 2005 5:35 PM — 24.197.94.142 — link — abuse?
Did anyone hear the comments made by Mark May about WVU...He said something about WVU fans throwing things at Tech players...He then went as far as to say that WVU fans threw pennies instead of nickels because they cannot afford nickels...I agree things can get a bit out of hand, but not just in Morgantown, things get outta control at colleges and universities across the country...But do not put down the whole socioeconomic status of a state...
a random reader said:
posted on October 3, 2005 5:22 PM — 63.227.222.185 — link — abuse?
Just checking in on Portis...we haven't heard from him since, oh, around noon on Friday.
"I will give you a last name your sure to remember after the game Saturday....Dingle. Johnny Dingle will bring Mrs. Vick much pain come Saturday, and much joy to the hearts of the Mountaineer Fans. Complain and moan all you want about our reputation, but one thing "the experts" around the country know is that is it very, very difficult to come to Mountaineer Field and get a victory, especially for a pot smoking quarterback with only 5 starts under his belt. The game will be and intense, grind it out contest, with WVU getting the final victory in the series."
mountiefan said:
posted on October 4, 2005 6:14 PM — 24.197.77.200 — link — abuse?
I know he is a pitt guy but I thought that was pretty low of him to say a commment like that... I understand saying things about the school, the program, players etc...But downing the whole state like that was shitty...
Trey said:
posted on October 5, 2005 6:25 PM — 24.161.7.25 — link — abuse?
Well now we know who had the last laugh. Tech creamed WVU, just the way the rivaly should have ended. WVU was a fun rivalry , but lets move on to some more quality progams. I think the Tech/Maimi Rivaly will be great....And I'm sure no Tech fan can stand FSU.....
portis said:
posted on October 7, 2005 3:37 PM — 24.140.92.2 — link — abuse?
Portis is still here, alive and kicking and cheering on the Mountaineers. VT beat us last Saturday, giving them more false hope for a national championship. I really thought we had nothing to worry about, after all, Marcus Vick only scores on 15 year olds. I guess I was wrong and Tech took the final game in the series. It's a shame that such a "great" program as VT couldn't win a few more games to even the series at 28 wins a piece.
A random reader said:
posted on October 7, 2005 5:23 PM — 63.227.222.185 — link — abuse?
You're right guys. Congrats on the series. I wish I'd been around to see all the games. It's been a great rivalry, and I hope we get to play again soon.
Here's a Hokie fan that's cheered for WVU in all games but one during the last 10 seasons. I don't need to say more, I'm thrilled with the turnout.
isabelle said:
posted on October 26, 2005 2:42 AM — 4.155.69.118 — link — abuse?
loved the WvU and v tech games don:t let the thoes that have no respect for themselves or the great sport take that away, there are great fans all over.I love the errrs and West virginia.The big east is gone to be around.and so are teams like Wvu and louisville,Pitt,etc,No matter,what takes place if these teams prove themselves worthy they will be there in the end.The fact all teams have there good and bad years is what makes it GREAT,Every one Has a chance.Thats the excitement of college football.
Richard Irwin said:
posted on December 4, 2005 10:42 PM — 68.207.120.233 — link — abuse?
It's too bad that this game is coming to an end, but to call it a rivalry is not correct. It's just a good, intense game. Pitt is WVU's rival though. Good luck to VT. We won't miss their fans. They're a bunch of idiots who get what they deserve when the come to Morgantown.
Melissa said:
posted on December 5, 2005 12:45 AM — 151.199.104.9 — link — abuse?
I came across this site, and read what was posted. I am a Tech fan, and enjoy watching college football. I've never went to a WVU game in West Virginia, but have when WVU came here. I guess what amazes me is that some of you on here are upset because people mention the burning of couches and the throwing of things at other teams. Why get upset, it's true. You can bash on other teams but no one is allowed to bash on you. It sounds kinda one sided. I will not bash on other peoples preference of team. But I know that VT fans get rowdy and so do alot of the other teams, we can not control all the fans, so admit you do have some bad ones . My best friend is for VT, my other is a WVU fan. My dad is a WVU and VA fan. Just enjoy the game, this is not a pissing contest. We all tend to get a little worked up over the games, just some go overboard, and it's not only VT fans. I will be honest and say I'm glad the WVU v/s VT games are over. There were a lot of good games on both sides, we lost some, and won some. Good Luck to WVU and it's fans.
josh gorby said:
posted on April 3, 2006 2:05 PM — 68.69.146.237 — link — abuse?
hey hokie fans, nice way to parade a group of street thugs around. your program is corrupt. frank beamer will do anything to have a winning program, even if it means recruitiing grimey street thugs. marcus vick and jimmy williams are both a joke. all of you brag about the quality of people you have in the program.
if pat white and steve slaton start against vt back in oct. then we go undefeated, if we were to go to blacksburg this season to play we would wipe our butts with your squad.
hey hokie fans i hope your proud of your players, and isnt it funny kevin rodgers left the program after he wanted vick out immedietely following his gator bowl stomp but beamer said he must stay in the game......your program is a joke......i really like the ron mexico hall of fame in the athletic department...hahahahahhahhhahahhaahaha
eerfan11 said:
posted on April 12, 2006 3:06 PM — 157.182.145.149 — link — abuse?
I don't see whats the big deal about WVU having out of control fans. I am a WVU student and I am proud to be a part of what is considered to be an out of control student body known for couch burning and street fires. I don't know if anyone remembers it, but there was a super bowl ad for college ring tones, and what ring tone did sprint use? The WVU fight song "Hail West Virginia" to someone's burning couch. If the couch burning and street fires are such a problem, why do I see t-shirts the say "West Virginia University... where greatness is learned and couches are burned"? So sure we may be rowdy, but I feel that makes us Mountaineer fans so great and makes Mountaineer Field such a great home field advantage. And also, I am from Virginia and have many friends that go to Va Tech, and whenever I hang out with them, all they want to do is burn a couch, so all you Tech fans out there don't hate. Also, who went 11-1 and won the sugar bowl, a BCS bowl game, I belive it was WVU from the weak Big East beating a team from the mighty SEC. By the way, who lost the orange bowl? I belive that was FSU, out of the strong ACC, who beat Va Tech to get there. So all you Tech fans out there consider yourselvs lucky Pat White and Steve Slaton hadn't been discovered on Oct. 1, because you never know who might have gone 12-0.
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rb said:
posted on September 28, 2005 1:44 PM — 68.21.103.162 — link — abuse?Sounds like taking a road trip to Morgantown requires a canoe, paddle, bow & arrows, and circa-70s Burt Reynolds just to be safe.
At least in Athens we just pass out before anyone gets rowdy...