November 6, 2005
Caned
Miami dominated Virginia Tech 27-7 Saturday night in Blacksburg, snapping a two-game losing streak and dominating a Hokie team that never bothered to show up to play. Marcus Vick played particularly horribly, turning the ball over six times, but was not given much time to work by a Miami defense that dominated the VT offensive line all game long.
While it's true, to say that Tech didn't bother to play shorts Miami some on credit. On the offensive side of the ball, the Hurricane offense took what the VT defense gave them and turned it into all the points they needed. The Miami offensive line completely negated VT's attempts to pressure quarterbacks Kyle Wright and Kirby Freeman; they, in turn, defied the history of Miami QBs in Lane by playing well and within control, and the Miami running game was able to control the tempo of the game at will. It still wasn't a horrific defensive performance for the Hokies; with the offense handing the ball over at will, it was probably as good as could be expected.
On the other side, the Hurricane defense was fantastic, and the Tech offense was putrid. Tech hadn't played a team all season that could run with them, and it showed; the Hokies simply never expected Miami defenders to show up when and where they did. Vick was under heavy pressure most of the game, but pressure doesn't excuse six turnovers from any QB. Vick spent the first three quarters trying to force the ball deep to David Clowney in double coverage, and was intercepted twice and overthrew Clowney six or seven other times for his trouble. The Hokies never established the run; again, Miami's speed killed. But the turnovers did this team in. As good as Vick was at West Virginia, that's how bad he was tonight, joining the Grant Noel Memorial Hall of Shame for QB performances against Miami (Noel went 5-for-20 in 2001 with 4 INTs, but Tech only lost 26-24 despite his poor showing).
Miami now takes control of the ACC Coastal Division race, closing out the year with games at Wake Forest, then at home with Georgia Tech and Virginia. The Hokies get a week to lick their wounds, then go to Charlottesville and close by hosting resurgent North Carolina. Both games could easily be lost if Tech doesn't get its act together quickly.
Comments:
MotherCrazy said:
posted on November 6, 2005 4:50 AM — 215.65.49.10 — link — abuse?
Va Tech was overrated to start with, if Marcus didnt have an older brother named Mike, he would be just another athletic college quarterback. He will probably go on to win a lot of games in NCAA and then amount to what his bro is in the NFL, OVERRATED.
posted on November 6, 2005 7:52 AM — link — abuse?Kevin Donahue said:
As I mentioned in the preview, it will be very interesting to see if Miami can climb to #3 or #4 in the BCS.
CANES ALUMNI said:
posted on November 6, 2005 8:37 AM — 71.100.215.42 — link — abuse?
SOMEONE AT VT NEEDS TO SHOW VICK HOW TO HOLD ONTO THE BALL. WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT TALK ABOUT WHAT A GREAT COACH BEAMER IS (TRUE FOOTBALL EXPERTS KNOW HE IS OVERRATED JUST LIKE HIS TEAM), YOU WOULD THINK HE COULD TEACH VICK HOW TO PROPERLY HOLD A FOOTBALL.
MY INFANT SON CAN HOLD A FOOTBALL BETTER THAN VICK, AND HE PROBABLY CAN THROW IT JUST AS WELL.
MARCUS VICK IS THE MOST OVERRATED QB IN ALL OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!!
posted on November 6, 2005 8:47 AM — 208.54.14.33 — link — abuse?
But can your infant son, or Marcus Vick, find the Caps Lock key?
I love how one game suddenly reveals "the truth" that "real football experts" know. So where were those experts and where was that truth through the first two months of the season?
No one but the smack-talking Canes (and the odd idiot WVU fan who had completely forgotten 34-17) saw a butt-whooping of this magnitude coming, and neither of them got there through rational analysis. Don't try to pretend otherwise; enjoy your win and pretend you have some class.
rockin' ron said:
posted on November 6, 2005 9:26 AM — 65.40.85.220 — link — abuse?
Two things:
SIX turnovers. You can't win like that. We only punted 4 times, same as Miami.
Secondly, Beamer messed up big-time when he distracted his team by talking about all this BCS stuff. That was a HUGE mistake. He would have done much better to talk to the media exclusively about what a great team Miami is.
Urdaddy said:
posted on November 6, 2005 12:12 PM — 68.118.147.14 — link — abuse?
where are the people that defended VT and were saying that they were going to be this years auburn? Probably thinking about joining alabamas bandwagon, and make arguments for bama. Why can't we all get along and decide on two good teams for one year and shut our mouths about how my team can beat ur team and ur lucky ur not in my conference.
NOTRE DAME is overated.The U said:
posted on November 6, 2005 12:31 PM — 71.69.84.121 — link — abuse?
You have to be kidding me, Crockett. I'm getting damn sick of people talking about the 'Smack-Talking' fans of Miami. Every single football fan in this country talks smack when it comes down to their team. That's what sports are all about... talk smack, play the games, deal with the outcome. GET OVER IT!!!
Bevo06 said:
posted on November 6, 2005 1:45 PM — 205.188.116.199 — link — abuse?
Thanks for playing Chokies. I'm sure the Peach Bowl will be a nice consolation prize for you all. Maybe while your in ATL you can the good folks at the CDC to check out that goiter hanging off of Beamer's neck. VPISU, we hardly knew you.
posted on November 6, 2005 2:29 PM — 70.180.43.240 — link — abuse?
Give me a break...How is this loss puzzling to anyone? When's the last time (other than last year & '99, in which they lost both their bowl games) that this Virginia Tech team hasn't folded like a tent during the home stretch the past 10 years?
The media has to orally flatulate about them to pump up the Big East, or now, the ACC, in order to further their story lines and to hold in place the story they are no longer trying to report, but framing and actually conjuring up as they go alone...
Also, Cane fans, don't go patting yourselves on the back, either, because you've feasted on under-rated opponents yourselves...Your two big wins are against an over-rated FSU and an impossibly over ranked Virginia Tech team...
Just goes to show how truly biased and motivated the media is to further the story lines it makes up itself when you move an LSU team on a week when it doesn't play below this joke of a team earlier in the year, and then move Miami above the University of Alabama when they're undefeated.
Miami & Virginia Tech are the sexy picks, and they are the teams that everyone in the media wants to win, so if one beats the other, they can usurp other, more deserving teams...
Just another brick in the wall...Notre Dame with two losses not moving up or down, and jumping if they sneeze in an authoritative manner...Penn State going up the polls with a win over an also-ran in an also-ran season for the Big 10.
Leaving the rats to run the ship (IE-allowing the Associated Press pollsters to name a national champion or taking them and their poll seriously), or watering down the BCS does nothing for college football's validity. The only thing a fan of a school who isn't a media darling can hope for in terms of accomplishments is to hope they have a flamboyant coach who can hype them up or win their conference championshiop.
Thankfully for LSU, we're in prime position, with a huge tilt coming up in Tuscaloosa this weekend in a matchup of Top Five teams...Too bad the media already set up its own storyline by jumping Miami ahead of Alabama, ensuring that neither team can jump the Canes with a victory on Saturday...
The more things change, the more they stay the same...and we need a playoff...If you can't see it, you're blind...WVU Pride said:
posted on November 6, 2005 4:14 PM — 129.71.136.56 — link — abuse?
This is exactly what drives me crazy about media...They love to hate the Big East. We supposely don't deserve a BCS spot, yet Louisville defeated N. Carolina by 50 plus points. In turn, N. Carolina defeated they "premier" ACC school Boston College. The top 4 teams in the big east could compete every year in any major conference and could win mid-major conference. I think its time for the media to stop hating on the Big East and start giving us some respect. Heck read the original post. They say N. Carolina could defeat VT. Point Proven. Let WVU play VT now that our offense has matured and is good as our defense, and it would be a much closer game. Go 'EERS and GO BIG EAST!!!
Canette said:
posted on November 6, 2005 4:19 PM — 209.2.24.206 — link — abuse?
Well well well....not so many bloggers as PreGame! People Marcus is a good QB but nowhere near as good as Mike. Thats just a fact. Lightening doesn't strike twice in the same place. Another fact is that UM beat VT. VT didn't turn the ball over, it was taken from them. This game should serve as a warning to all who may doubt the will of a Hurricane.
dave f said:
posted on November 6, 2005 8:02 PM — 66.186.235.209 — link — abuse?
"AS I WAS SAYING IN OTHER POSTS BEFORE THE GAME, MARCUS VICK IS THE WORST QB IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL."
No he isn't. Not anywhere close. He's actually quite good. He does have some things he needs to improve on, however, and he did play pretty poorly against Miami.
"I HAVE SEEN BETTER QBs IN PEEWEE LEAGUES IN FL."
No you haven't.
And who's greenlighting these comments with the caps locks on?
D from VT said:
posted on November 6, 2005 9:31 PM — 198.82.100.32 — link — abuse?
ohh cmon, mr canes alumni personally i think your a moron. This happens in all sports all the time, great teams have a good season and get cocky, you could see it, the miami team was much more pumped up about this game than we were. We have completely embarrased Miami for two years now. two years ago when you all were number 2 in the nation and were pretty much in our (VT's) same position, you all were cocky, came into our house and we dominated you. then last year we beat you again, but much closer and in your house. Now lets see, doesnt Miami's story from two years ago look very similar to ours now?? so you beat us, ok you dashed our hopes for this year, but ok next year it will once again be a tough game but hopefully we wont be as cocky and will show up a little more pumped and ready to play!!
and yes, as a Hokie i was there at the game and god that was aweful, we (the fans) were sooo pumped and i gotta say, i was embarrassed for vick, i mean damn he played like crap and we paid for it.
pretty much i just think your an ignorant moron and have no idea about what your talking about, and next time before you go on talking about over-rated teams, just remember what people said two years ago when Miami came to lane stadium, the same things were said about you all that are being said about us now. I give it to you, at the moment you do def have bragging rights, you all played much better but in the future i just ask that you not be so ignorant of the past and think about what your saying before you say it.
posted on November 6, 2005 9:47 PM — 69.255.36.102 — link — abuse?
12: Nope. Not every college football fan talks smack, and if you think so, maybe that's why you're a Miami fan. There's a difference between supporting your team and talking smack.
And sure, people from all sides cross it. What I said is that only the smack-talkers on UM's side predicted something like this; rational Miami fans predicted either a close UM win or a VT result. So the Cane fans now coming out of the woodwork claiming they "knew it all along" are either idiots or pretenders.
13: Ah, the class of Texas is upon us, making fun of Beamer's childhood skin graft (Ctrl-F "1954"). Reason number 3,048 why I root for the Aggies in that state's battle.
Dave F said:
posted on November 6, 2005 9:56 PM — 66.186.235.209 — link — abuse?
I have to agree, Josh. Lots of folks, myself included, predicted a Miami upset. But anyone who honestly expected Miami to totally dominate VT like that and win by such a wide margin clearly knows very little about college football. Sometimes even really foolish predictions come true; that doesn't make you smart, just dumb and lucky.
caned and unable said:
posted on November 6, 2005 10:08 PM — 65.34.241.123 — link — abuse?
more salt in the wounds of VTech:-52 highly touted recruits travelled from all over to be on hand for the beatdown. maybe they should consider heading south.
-it was the first ever all Skycam telecast on ESPNu
-Nike designed a pair of custom shoes for Marcus which big brother sent to him for this game specifically to improve his mobility
......all for NUTHINRegan said:
posted on November 7, 2005 12:13 AM — 205.188.116.199 — link — abuse?
Being a Miami fan was easy Saturday night. I have been one for several years, and sincerely hope the Hokies recover well from this loss. It was a tough one to take, and they bit us just as badly the last time in Blacksburg.
VT has a good team, I don't care what anyone says. Vick is a good QB, I refuse to believe his performance in one game should label him as terrible.
VT fans have a lot to look forward to in the next 2 years or so, it usually takes a horrible game to propel you if you expect excellence down the road, as we learned in 2000 against the Washington Huskies.
Carry on, VT, win out and grab an at-large BCS berth and we'll see you next year...
posted on November 7, 2005 12:49 AM — 69.255.36.102 — link — abuse?
I'm not seeing an at-large BCS berth for VT, not after this beatdown. If it had been closer, maybe.
Notre Dame is taking one at-large slot, and may actually deserve it this year. The other will probably go to the SEC, what with Georgia, Bama and LSU all top-10.
J. North said:
posted on November 7, 2005 11:06 AM — 65.2.184.221 — link — abuse?
Most of you VT fans came to the OB last year and said that you dominated Miami. 16-10 is not a dominant performance. All I kept hearing was that you owned the OB. V Tech fans showed their true colors this weekend. They got cocky without winning anything and got SPANKED! To the LSU fan who posts here, you lost to AZ State, a team that if they played FSU would get embarassed. The reason that Miami jumped 'Bama is because if your only QUALITY win is UF then you don't deserve to be a top ranked team. Florida would get shut out by the Canes no doubt. I think that happened at the Peach Bowl this year. TO ANYONE WHO DOESN'T LIKE HEARING FROM SMACK-TALKING CANES FANS. DEAL WITH IT. KEEP HATING ON THE CANES ITS NEVER BOTHERED US!
sean said:
posted on November 7, 2005 11:39 AM — 209.82.168.215 — link — abuse?
Jeez, but some of you people can say some pretty stupid things. Check the "ESPN Gameday goes to Blacksburg" blog. There, I said VT was due for an upset, just like we, (Miami) got upset two years in a row.
To the guy who types all Caps, (man that is annoying) Marcus Vick is a good, mobile QB who throws very accurate darts and VT is a very good team. Miami is better. I said it, and everyone mocked. They've been getting better all year, and the D dominated VT. That's all there is to it. I agree with the earlier blogger, Vick didn't turn it over, it was taken from him.
As in any football game, momentum is everything. (just ask UCLA) Kyle Wright is getting better and he plays in a tough ACC which is one of the premier football conferences now.
The Canes have got to stay focused. Virginia already ruined FSU's season and they'll be looking to spoil it for Miami. Win out and get the re-match with FSU we so desperately want. (you gotta know those FSU guys were watching Saturday night and thinking about Dec. 3 in Jacksonville) One stumble from Texas or USC, and we're in the big dance. And we deserve it.
canes alumni said:
posted on November 7, 2005 11:48 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
Anyone that watched the game knows Vick should have been wearing a dress. He doesn't have accuracy for the deep ball. All the highlights I have seen of him either shows him running the ball (which he carries too loose) or throwing short passes against terrible teams that miss tackles and let VT have big plays.
Against a great Miami defense, Vick showed how OVERRATED he is.
canes alumni said:
posted on November 7, 2005 11:54 AM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
RE: Post 14 TigerEducated
Are all LSU fans as dumb as you. You list Miami's 2 major victories as being against VT and FSU. It doesn't take a UM alumni to notice that with the score UM 7 FSU 10...Miami lost that game. Before you go saying that the only two major victories are against bad teams, you should look to see if they are victories.
Also, as the people that make the polls noted, a 1 loss ACC team is better than a 0 loss SEC team.
GO CANES!
Dave F said:
posted on November 7, 2005 12:34 PM — 66.186.235.209 — link — abuse?
"Are all LSU fans as dumb as you. You list Miami's 2 major victories as being against VT and FSU. It doesn't take a UM alumni to notice that with the score UM 7 FSU 10...Miami lost that game."
Yeah, canes alumni, that's almost as bad as J North, the Miami fan, saying LSU lost to AZ State, isn't it? Also, you should refer to yourself as an alumnus, not an alumni, which is plural. So um, are all Miami fans as dumb as you two? Bwahahahaha!!!!
canes alumni said:
posted on November 7, 2005 1:09 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
Dave F,
You sound like all the other SEC fans that think that your terrible teams are so great. The SEC is an overrated conference. You have to look no further than Alabama to see this point. In any other conference a team with a decent defense and a terrible offense would not be undefeated. It's time that you realized that the ACC is the most powerful conference in college football. The BCS is a terrible way to decide a national champion, but at least the formulas for it know that SEC teams are not as good as teams from other conferences (sorry to all you Auburn cry babies that play a weak nonconference schedule that cost your team a chance to be humiliated in the national title game last year)pitons2 said:
posted on November 7, 2005 2:03 PM — 167.206.211.125 — link — abuse?
get real folks , this is a good VT team but i do not think they were prepared for the speed of Miami.Also unlike other teams Miami pressures with their front four (or should i say 8) and so the receivers to not get to run free , Miami also has the speed to stay with them.This rivalry is good for the ACC , now FSU ARE U READY FOR ANOTHER BEAT DOWN.
canes alumni said:
posted on November 7, 2005 2:10 PM — 24.96.199.254 — link — abuse?
re: post 18 D from VT
Noone from Miami is saying that the Canes are having a good season. It might be considered a good season if we were a terrible team from VT that didn't have any great seasons to compare it to, but if you ask anyone that knows true Canes football the only reason to play is for the championship which we probably cost ourselves with our opening game. If VT knew what championship football was, then their fans would realize that anything less than a championship is failure.Ride The Tide!!! said:
posted on November 7, 2005 5:55 PM — 129.71.136.160 — link — abuse?
The Coaches poll is the only one that really matters to me...They got it right how can you vote a team that lost to FSU ahead of an undefeated Alabama team. FSU lost the N.C. State. Come on now...Wake up and stop buying into the Hype that VT is a high profile Football program. I'm glad Marcus Vick fell flat on his face in a big game. His stats were average at best...He's all brand name, Crappy PRODUCT!!!
Gold and Blue said:
posted on November 8, 2005 12:39 PM — 70.88.143.174 — link — abuse?
Josh Crockett,
I agree with most of your thoughts. However, let's get a few things straight. Vick did not play "particularly horribly". Vick's true lack of strength and talent showed. Let's keep this real simple for ACC fans... Vick can't handle the pressure. VT's offensive line is the only reason he was able to perform as he did in past games. As strong as VT's offensive line can be, Miami dominated. The result is simple. Vick can't sit back, relax and point out his receiver time and again. Therefore, he can't throw accurately. He has no running game, even with those custom NIKE shoes. His visor couldn't save him either. Vick is predictable. Vick is over-rated. As for the comment, "As good as Vick was at West Virginia..." you have got to be kidding. He played the same against Miami. The only difference, his offensive line couldn't protect him this time. WV lost to VT for a couple of reasons. Vick can't be given credit for any of them. Two lucky turnovers didn't hurt VT either. Please don't fool yourself into thinking VT blew WV out. WV gave those castrated turkies the best challange they had until Miami. Also, any who think the VT Miami game was an upset...wake up! Miami learned how predictable Vick is from the WV game. Miami did what WV should have... pressured Vick. If WV and VT played now, it would be a different game. Any who think otherwise, are fools. It doesn't matter that WV is a young team. It doesn't matter that White and Bednarik don't have a strong offensive line (yet) to protect them like Vick usually has. This is what matters...White and Bednarik show up. Perhaps little Vick could learn a thing or two from the men in Gold and Blue.
TedPfromVT said:
posted on November 15, 2005 4:13 PM — 68.191.3.207 — link — abuse?
Come on people you all spout crap before you actually think about what you are saying. Saying Marcus is not a good QB is crazy, because coming into the Miami debacle Vick was rated #2 in passing in the ACC. Beamer is not over-rated, look at what he has done the last 12 years bringing them to bowl games(not to many other coaches can say that) Portis I hear all that crap you talk about the crapaneers, without saying who ya'll have beat this year (UConn,Louisville & Rutgers) not really a tough schedule in my eyes. Yes we had our problems a couple of Saturdays a go but come on teams are allowed to have one bad weekend aren't they? The difference this year will be how they rebound against UVA and UNC. If they come out and perform than you can say that it was just a bad weekend, but if they do not than you can say that MAYBE they were a little overrated in their rankings.
VTCPE said:
posted on November 17, 2005 2:06 AM — 68.55.77.252 — link — abuse?
You know what's so strange about the rematch that HAS to happen... FSU is 7-3, Miami is 8-1 and VT is 8-1. Let's say that Miami wins the rest of its games and so does VT. That means that VT will have beaten two teams that beat FSU. Let's take this further, let's say that FSU somehow beats Miami. Does it make sense that FSU at 7-3, beaten by NC State, UVA and Clemson, will be the ACC Champ? If both Miami and VT end their seasons with 1 conference loss, the rematch that HAS to happen is VT and Miami. I know that wouldn't satify Miami bloodlust, but I think the ACC would look stupid if FSU somehow won the title.
Also, Vick is a good QB, he just couldn't hold it together against a Miami defense that was extremely fast and capable.
EERful said:
posted on November 17, 2005 10:34 AM — 70.88.143.174 — link — abuse?
Ted from VT,
I hope you are not intending a career in law. Your argument is weak and you are definitley spouting crap. Let's try to be somewhat original instead of putting down the strength of the Big East. After all, the Big East was good enough for VT until recently. Is your capacity for memory that minute? Of course a team can have a bad week, however the 6 pics speak for themselves. Are you in the habit of contradicting yourself? As you put it, "... how they rebound against UVA and UNC... if they come out and perform..." I would hope VT will perform in their next two games! If VT wins both games, how will that prove your point? The last time I checked, neither team is rated or a serious threat. Yet, you come down on WVU for playing teams that are not tough. Have you forgotten that Louisville is ranked? All BS aside, I'm glad VT went to the ACC. WVU is now going to have the opportunity to beat up on you in a bowl game in future seasons. When that happens, what will your excuse be then?
While I'm at it... Dear VTCPE,
Vick is a good QB. Vick is not a great QB. Vick is over-rated. I believe VT had the # 1 defense when VT and WVU played early in the season. A top rated defense would imply that VT was very strong and capable just as you describe Miami. With this said, i thank you for proving the point that Vick can NOT handle the pressure. After all, VT only came out 17 points ahead against a very young WVU team. Even against a so-called superior ACC team, the men in Gold and Blue were not nearly reduced to 6 pics. I too would like to see a rematch and watch Little Vick choke again.
EER14 said:
posted on November 17, 2005 1:17 PM — 129.71.238.253 — link — abuse?
To: TedPfromVT
Ted, you forgot Maryland, and Virginia Tech on your WVU crap list. You also played Maryland and are a VT fan so that was a convenience for you to leave those school's out of your #38 comments. Lets talk about your list of power house teams. I am starting to shake and shiver just thinking about typing these top football program's ...DUKE, OHIO, MARSHALL, NORTH CAROLINA, NC STATE, and VIRGINIA all of whom RUTGERS would destroy or could play with. I normally do not respond to people like you, but since you want to talk the smack line so can we.
Have you seen VT schedule for the 2006 season yet
smack boy ? I love the fact that some of you who live in a Glass House still chuck stones, no matter.
posted on November 17, 2005 1:33 PM — 12.20.147.103 — link — abuse?
portis: That "product of marketing" sure whupped up on you.
Inane Hokie comments aside (sorry, TedP, but your post was poor), quite a few of you WVU fans seem to have difficulty with this fact:
Virginia Tech, with Marcus Vick at QB, beat you.
Miami fans get to run a bit of smack on us. They beat us fair and square. WVU fans? Civil, respectful discussion is fine, but your attempts at anti-Hokie smack are pathetic. You lost. Your team seems to have moved on; why can't you?
EER14 said:
posted on November 17, 2005 1:45 PM — 129.71.238.253 — link — abuse?
Ya Josh I know this and do not have a problem with that fact. You have read my post in the past and I normally do smack down VT. You like to rub it in every chance you get however. Thats fine, VT won. My problem was from comments (#38) made FIRST by one of your fans. I simply responded as would you.
GO EERS !!
VTCPE said:
posted on November 17, 2005 6:40 PM — 69.243.112.198 — link — abuse?
I don't think Vick would choke in a Tech-Miami rematch. I'm not saying VT would win, but the kid learns fast. Part of becoming a winner is learning how to lose. I'm not saying you have to like losing, but you have to do something with that experience. Putting it "behind" you is not the thing. Learning from it and trying again is the key. Watch Vick in the next two games, I think you are going to see the following:
- a tucked away football on runs
- more careful needle threading
To WVU fans: The Big East is a weak conference not because of its teams, but because of its management. Remember that one of your BCS spots can go to Notre Dame if they have 10 wins. That was an agreement the Big East officials made. Also, let's get real about Rutgers. They are, have been and probably will be a perennial basement dweller.
To Vick Haters: Vick was rated on passing efficiency and rushing yards. There's no QB poll that ranked him. His stats got busted up by Miami. This "overrated" talk is cheap. His numbers were not racked up by voters and for the WVU fans out there, 15/17 (88%) for 177 (Vick) yards is better than the combined total of 11/14 (79%) for 103 yards (WVU).
And now the fun part. If VT sucks so much and beat WVU, what does that say about WVU? You can either be a good team and get beaten by another good team or you can be a bad team and get beaten by a good team. You can't be a good team and get beaten by a team that sucks. So WVU fans, are you a good team? If so, VT doesn't suck. I think you're a good team, give yourselves some credit and start sounding like a Top 25 team.
TedPfromVT said:
posted on November 17, 2005 10:45 PM — 70.18.148.234 — link — abuse?
Let’s start with your assumption that I am contradicting myself, well sir I believe you are misleadingly my comments. What I said was “The difference this year will be how they rebound against UVA and UNC. If they come out and perform than you can say that it was just a bad weekend, but if they do not than you can say that MAYBE they were a little overrated in their rankings.” Well isn’t that the truth in years passed when they came off of a loss than responded flat and did not respond good. Well this year the difference between a good team and a bad (over-rated) team is how they respond to adversity. Like all Hokie fans we know that and want this years team to respond different than years past to prove a point that they were not overrated when they received the ranking of 3rd in the country.
Now on to your other facts that Rutgers could beat some of the other teams that the Hokies beat this year. I did a little comparison (even though I did not feel the need, but felt compelled by you’re calling me smackboy) of the stats and in most instances you were correct Rutgers would beat everyone but UVA whom they lost to in head to head comparison, but let’s look at our middle of the road team versus the people you beat. Let’s pick our common team that we beat this year in Maryland who’s 5-4 record is one less than Rutgers 6-4 and do a little head to head. Against UConn they have the advantage of 73 versus 99.2, against Syracuse it was 73 to 134.6, against Pitt they won again by a 26.4 margin. Oh by the way Maryland beat Rutgers in a head to head match-up of offenses and defenses with a score of 73 to 93.5 and 79.8 to 86.5 respectively. If you would like “back em stats up” boy check foxsports.com for a head to head comparison of each team.
The point that I am trying to make is that each team can and will beat you if you are not prepared, and that is what happened a couple of weeks ago against Miami. I will be the first to tell you, and I have said these exact words to my WVU friends, that I am glad we do not play you guys for the next couple of years because your team will be one hell of a team. As for your statement of playing and beating the crap out of Tech in a bowl game, first you would have to win a game in a bowl( since 1982 you have only won 3 bowl games---http://www.msnsportsnet.com/content/Football-10.pdf) and secondly what’s the record of your win/loss record versus Tech in the last 15 years (5-10). I am sure you do not want to go the history books to find out the records, so I am sorry I did a little backing up this time…….
EER14 said:
posted on November 21, 2005 9:17 AM — 129.71.238.253 — link — abuse?
TedPfromVT: #1 I responded to comments you made (#38). #2 that is true, Tech is 10-5 in the last 15 years, #3
WVU is 28-22-1 against Tech, so whats your point. #4 it does not matter either way..its history. I said it before and will say it again. VT is better than Miami regardless of head-to-head. VT 51 Ga Tech 7 ! I am going to get some backlash from Portis for that statement, sorry man. I will be in Touchdown City Thursday night for the Back Yard *** kicking, should be fun. GO EERS !! South Florida should be excited about their progress this year, but get real. We will bring you back to earth soon.April said:
posted on December 7, 2005 4:31 PM — 24.248.41.138 — link — abuse?
WVU sucks... i have to use that as an opener... it's only suitable! So we lost in two big games... big deal, we have defeated Miami when least expected and we beat(which who didn't expect it) WVU in redneck Morgantown itself! WVU, you guys won your conference!! Let's not get too overly excited...I mean who the hell did you play, umm nobody!
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zippy said:
posted on November 6, 2005 1:20 AM — 172.149.110.73 — link — abuse?I guess playing Ohio Univ and James Madison doesn't really prepare you for your conference toughest foes. All pretenders to the back please.