January 6, 2006
Marcus Vick dismissed from team
Virginia Tech Hokies QB Marcus Vick, already embroiled in a sticky situation over past transgressions and his recent actions during the Gator Bowl, was arrested December 17 in Hampton, Virgina. He was charged with driving with a suspended or revoked license, which is a misdemeanor. The Washington Post reports the arrest was not posted on the Virginia Judicial System website until yesterday.
Hokie head coach Frank Beamer was scheduled to meet with Vick and his mother today to discuss his options and his future with the program which include transferring, going pro or remaining to face penalties from the school next year.
A commenter on a previous post on Vick seemed to have pretty good information on the incident that led to this arrest and further information that has yet to be reported by the media.
5 PM EDT UPDATE: Marcus Vick has been dismissed from the Virginia Tech Hokies football team.
Statement from University President Charles W. Steger:
Virginia Tech quarterback Marcus Vick has been permanently dismissed from the Hokie football program due to a cumulative effect of legal infractions and unsportsmanlike play.
Virginia Tech had suspended Vick in 2004. The university provided one last opportunity for Vick to become a citizen of the university and readmitted him in January 2005, with the proviso that any future problems would result in automatic dismissal from the team.Head Football Coach Frank Beamer met with Vick and his mother this afternoon and informed the quarterback and his family of the University's decision. His recent actions are unfortunate and we wish him well in his future endeavors.
Frank Beamer:
I'm very disappointed that this didn't have a better ending. We wanted what's best for this football team and Marcus. I certainly wish him the best.
Comments:
vtBobb said:
posted on January 6, 2006 3:09 PM — 208.229.147.26 — link — abuse?
As I posted on the other thread, if it's true about Vick's prebowl arrest, he should be gone! My understanding was that according to the deal he made with the university when he was reinstated, any additional off the field trouble would result in his expulsion.
I'm tired of him making Tech look like classless thugs. I always thought Beamer was a class act. I hope he shows it now and does what's right. Ultimately, the decision may be up to the administration and out of his hands completely.
posted on January 6, 2006 3:10 PM — 12.20.147.103 — link — abuse?Josh Crockett said:
VT will hold a press conference at 11 AM Saturday, with Beamer, AD Jim Weaver and university president Charles Steger, per the Roanoke Times.
K Hat said:
posted on January 6, 2006 3:42 PM — 24.217.145.84 — link — abuse?
For anyone reading this, ask yourself this.
If you had a track record in getting in trouble with the law like Marcus Vick has, and then get caught stomping on the leg of an employee of another company, would you still be employeed or would you have been fired?
I know he's not a paid employee, but he represents Virginia Tech like the other players do. How many more times does this guy have to be arrested until the Unviersity says enough is enough and they let him go.
Virginia Tech Redemption said:
posted on January 6, 2006 3:55 PM — 172.134.126.159 — link — abuse?
Let dude go. Sit his two games and let him play. He's what?? All of 20 years old.
There's not a day goes by I don't feel regret. Not because I'm in here, or because you think I should. I look back on the way I was then, a young, stupid kid who committed that terrible crime. I want to talk to him. I want to try and talk some sense to him, tell him the way things are. But I can't. That kid's long gone and this old man is all that's left. I got to live with that. Rehabilitated? It's just a b.s. word. So you go on and stamp your form, sonny, and stop wasting my time. Because to tell you the truth, I don't give a dam.
posted on January 6, 2006 4:01 PM — link — abuse?
Would they be holding a Saturday news conference on this if it was just to announce a one-game suspension?
Anyone else thinks this means he's gone, either pro or I-AA transfer to Hampton or somewhere?
If he's smart he'd transfer to Morehouse or one of the HBCUs closer to Atlanta so his brother can keep an eye on him, if that worked last summer as much as the media said it did.
Ryguy said:
posted on January 6, 2006 4:13 PM — 24.47.39.15 — link — abuse?
Well let's not forget the Willie Williams story from Miami(FL). He was given a "second" (actually 12th chance) but I mean Virginia Tech has to do something drastic, like get rid of this Vick, to save whatever is left of it's positive legacy of the program.
posted on January 6, 2006 5:21 PM — link — abuse?
Nothing like getting bad news out around 5 pm on a Friday.
Hokie in Austin said:
posted on January 6, 2006 5:22 PM — 71.145.214.143 — link — abuse?
Per www.hokiesports.com, VT has announced that Vick is off the team permanently. As much as I was all for giving him a second chance (or was that a third or fourth?) after the incidents from two years ago, I'm glad he's gone now. He's shown no evidence that he can grow up and act like a responsible individual who learns from his mistakes. That being said, I wish him well and hope he can find some maturity. Just not at VT.
Ttp said:
posted on January 6, 2006 5:36 PM — 69.182.181.169 — link — abuse?
Marcus Vick stomps on an opponents leg after the guy takes cheap shots and late hits and all the students at VaTech get upset. Where's the loyalty. It's nowhere to be found. You wanted him gone before any of this happened because people are jealous of his brothers success. The guy is twenty years old. Go bother fraternities that get people to overdose on drugs and die of alcohol poisoning and rape college girls. Leave Marcus vick alone. He was 18 y/o when he offered the underage girls alcohol. They probably lied about their age anyway. Loyalty you people should show it sometimes.
a random fan said:
posted on January 6, 2006 5:42 PM — 63.227.222.185 — link — abuse?
I spent all season defending Vick. He started the season with a thug rep, and ended it the same way. Hey Marcus, do me a favor. Put the Gator Bowl game ball in a box and send it to Tyler Cantwell - a quarterback that played with class, grit, and heart that would make Bryan Randall proud.
Bitter VT fan
posted on January 6, 2006 5:44 PM — link — abuse?
Thanks for all these commenters after 5 EST reporting the obvious that he's been kicked off the team. It's in the post above at the bottom and has been there since 5 pm.
K Hat said:
posted on January 6, 2006 6:04 PM — 24.217.145.84 — link — abuse?
Ttp, one thing that you don't understand is, this is not about loyality, it's about behavior. If the frat boys act the way they do, they should go to jail for those crimes, no one is excusing that type of behavior.
Leave Marcus Vick alone? You act like he's done nothing wrong. It doesn't matter if he was 18 when he gave those girls alcohol or that he's 20 now, age is not the issue, it's his behavior.
I haven't heard anyone say that they're jealous of his brothers success. This has nothing to do with Mike, this is about Marcus and how he can't stay out of trouble.
Hokie in Austin said:
posted on January 6, 2006 6:13 PM — 71.145.214.143 — link — abuse?
It's not just about Marcus stepping on Dumervil. It's about the fact that he got arrested again, violating the conditions that VT imposed on him last January when he returned to school - the most important of those conditions being that he have no more off-the-field problems.
As to stepping on Dumervil, it's the latest in a growing number of on-the-field incidents that show lack of sportsmanship and maturity. That's not the type of player I want representing VT.
And Jeff, I could have sworn that the 5pm update wasn't there when I wrote my post. But then I write slow. Sorry about that.VTBobb said:
posted on January 6, 2006 6:17 PM — 70.22.96.98 — link — abuse?
I too believe in second and third chances (just ask my ex), but Vick squandered those chances with his continued disregard for the law.
Stepping on Dumervil's leg was worthy of a game suspension, just like Brad Butler of UVA received. But the arrest was worthy of expulsion. It was made clear in his reinstatement that any further off field transgressions would result in his immediate dismissal.
I wish Vick the best, and hope he matures into his potential. But I also hope he learns that his god given talent isn't a lisence to thumb your nose at the law.
7Hokie said:
posted on January 6, 2006 6:19 PM — 151.190.254.108 — link — abuse?
The provisions of his reinstatement were only concerned with off-field transgressions. Minor traffic stop or not, Virginia Tech had no other choice than to kick him off the team. With greater national exposure comes greater responsibility and fortunately VT hasn't had to deal with this before. Marcus therefore becomes the precendent.
As far as his on-the-field problems, there have been far worse examples of bad sportsmanship. If he had been a class act up to that point, it would have been written off as a fluke and there would not have been such an uproar.
He's obviously one of those kids who just didn't get the discipline drilled into his head. Instead he had the "next big thing" drilled in and his head grew to enormous size.
Too bad, but it's the best thing for Tech. Hopefully he will turn things around. I think a lot of people I've seen posting have forgotten that he is still a 21-year-old, a troubled 21yo, but a 21yo nonetheless.
It's also disturbing to see all this THUG talk. I thought that was reserved for murderers and thieves. Until these football players turn into Maurice Clarett or Lawrence Phillips, they are still just football players.
Erica816 said:
posted on January 6, 2006 7:42 PM — 68.42.62.114 — link — abuse?
Ttp, your comments reflect the exact attitude that has caused Marcus Vick be the way he is. He is obviously very immature and feels like he can act however he wants to. And why not? I'm sure people have been telling him since he began playing football that he was special and talented and that talent and gave him a sense of entitlement. I don't feel sorry for him at all. It's not just about stomping on a competitors leg. If that had been the only incident, he would have been suspended for one game at most. It's about a pattern of conduct that has ruined not only his reputation but also brings VT's integrity into question. He knew this was his last chance, he knew that he had been arrested before the bowl game, and still went out on the field and acted with no class. The sad thing about it is that some NFL team will still take a chance on him, pay him a lot of money, and he'll still be the same spoiled, immature, and arrogant person that he is today. To whom much is given much is expected. He better grow the hell up before his talent is wasted.
RJ said:
posted on January 6, 2006 8:16 PM — 68.50.187.145 — link — abuse?
So is everyone drinking the Kool-aid, or does anyone else believe that there is no way in the world that no one knew about his driving incident until now? I think someone had to know before he played in the bowl game - then the stomping incident turned the focus up on his true person. If any coach knew about the driving charges before the game - they should go as well.
thechad said:
posted on January 6, 2006 9:52 PM — 152.163.100.139 — link — abuse?
serve him right should had been kick out of the game showed no class and made virgina tech look like a bunch of thugs . he should had never been allowed to rejoin the team the hokies knew better . virgina tech should had just let be and moved on
Steve said:
posted on January 7, 2006 12:04 AM — 63.229.210.155 — link — abuse?
I have to agree with an earlier poster. The real disappointment is Coach Beamer.
Marcus has had an attitude problem all year and Beamer never was able to get him under control. But yet he played Vick so he could win, and the fact that the school knew he'd violated the agreement back in mid-December just shows that the coaches wouldn't stand up to him when the game was on the line. Now that they have a whole off-season to groom a replacement, he's gone.
Personally, I have a bit of sympathy for him because he's always been in Mike's shadow and since no one wants to piss-off Mike, nobody seems to want to knock some sense into Marcus.
posted on January 7, 2006 12:28 AM — link — abuse?
Last I checked, my team was the one inflicting the damage Major Harris' mom was crying about in that Gator Bowl. I'm a Tiger not a Hokie.
posted on January 7, 2006 10:12 PM — link — abuse?
"It's not a big deal. I'll just move on to the next level, baby," Vick said. Asked if that meant he would enter the 2006 NFL Draft as an underclassman, Vick said, "Yeah, definitely."
K Hat said:
posted on January 8, 2006 2:28 AM — 24.217.145.84 — link — abuse?
Interesting thing about the Roanake newspaper article that Kevin posted, Marcus Vick didn't apologize for his behavior on or off the field. "It's no big deal baby" type of attitude will fit right into the NFL. Good luck kid, you'll need it.
fred said:
posted on January 8, 2006 11:24 AM — 68.155.139.145 — link — abuse?
No comment from me on the exact facts, just this observation: If Marcus thinks he's good enough to play QB in the NFL with this sort of rep hanging over him, I believe he is kidding himself. He is not his brother talent-wise. I would be shocked if he ever starts a game in the NFL and not surprised if he isn't drafted.
K Hat said:
posted on January 8, 2006 2:06 PM — 24.217.145.84 — link — abuse?
I stand corrected, Vick did apologize, through his attorney.
Vtgrad said:
posted on January 8, 2006 8:24 PM — 70.160.96.182 — link — abuse?
Vick wasn't arrested. The suspension of the license was a matter of paperwork that he probably didn't know about. He went to apologize to Dumervil and he nor the coach would come out of the locker room per: coach Beamer and the Jacksonville paper. What a shame that Louisville now denies that he tried to apologize. I do not agree with his past behavior but, I also do not agree with the dismissal. He is a "kid" and regardless of him acting as if he is OK, I am certian he and his family are hurting. I can't believe that we dismiss him for a speeding ticket. I think a 2 game suspension would have been sufficient.
Senior1 said:
posted on January 8, 2006 8:32 PM — 209.23.237.57 — link — abuse?
IMHO, Vick was handed the coveted "Silver Plater" and given an oppportunity to perfect his craft and he blew it. He may have been a gifted althlete on the field however, that's where it ended. It's a shame that his ignorance, and arrogance got the better of him, especially since his brother is in the NFL. The School made the right decision and canned him.
Now, we can only hope that the NFL DOESN'T draft Vick this year. Which would allow him to mature a bit more before putting him behind the wheel.
Jim Barrett said:
posted on January 8, 2006 11:14 PM — 64.12.116.139 — link — abuse?
Marcus V. as leader of Va Tech in his QB position was fast turning his team into the Miami Hurracances. Everything that F. Beamer has worked for in his building of the tech dynasty was being jeopardized by a lying classless thug. He looks like he is fast on his way to becoming the Dwight Gooden of football.
VTFan said:
posted on January 9, 2006 8:11 AM — 24.129.111.14 — link — abuse?
How on Earth could Beamer have known and still played him? If true, then Beamer should be gone as well. We shouldn't play to win at ALL costs. This smells of desparation. The President went above Beamer and rightfully so. This is embarassing and Beamer should apologize. He just lost me as a fan of his. Geez...this is getting uglier by the minute.
IRMA EDGE said:
posted on January 9, 2006 10:04 AM — 147.248.5.71 — link — abuse?
I will continue to keep Marcus in my Prayers.
He is a kid and has a lot to learn about being and taking responsibility for his own actions.
However, if he was to be off the team before the Gator Bowl, then the Coaches at VT should have stayed to their orignal plan concerning his behavior if their should be any other transgressions against Marcus. VT wanted to win the Gator Bowl, therefore Marcus wasn't terminator at that time. Marcus was just being used to win. The Coaches should bear some blame for Marcus behavior. Had Marcus been kick off the team after receiving the ticket, the incident on the field at the Gator Bowl would have been prevented. There would be no National News of embarrasment for VT and the VICK Family.usc fan said:
posted on January 9, 2006 10:32 AM — 207.232.169.25 — link — abuse?
i'll probably watch the nfl draft while listening to lamb of god. i will probably switch it back and forth from that and the pay per view channels. battle of the bands is gonna be on so i'll probably watch it over anything. i like music. especially hard core death metal that i can rock out to! i like to watch football and listen to it but more thatn anything. marcus vick will go to the texans. i love daeth metal bands. and football. and baseball. and basketball. i also love to hang out with my wang out. i love metal. it just mega fun to watch mega death to open for Gwar. i love G war. marcus vick listenss toi them some i heard. what did he say about where he's going. im telling you the texans will be awesome next year. the super bowl will be browns vs texans with south of heaven opening and lamb of god playign at halftime and gwar playing at the end and the clebration party. i will probably cut myself and listen to fall otu boy and cry myself to sleep is marcu vick goes with the texans.
I live here said:
posted on January 9, 2006 11:42 AM — 66.207.89.231 — link — abuse?
If you think his actions on the field are bad, you should see the way he treats people in Blacksburg. Like crap - looks down on everyone, is snotty and is always rude. Tech is not Vick university - its a VPI and part of that learning experience is to gain some class. He must have missed that course.
VTBobb said:
posted on January 9, 2006 11:44 AM — 208.229.147.26 — link — abuse?
Vtgrad, sorry, but driving on a suspended license is more than a speeding ticket, it is a misdemeanor punishable by up to 6 months in jail and a $1000 fine. This is not about his speed, it is about his continued lack of respect for the law and his second and third chance that VT gave him. Can you say “straw that broke the camels back”?
VT Alumni said:
posted on January 9, 2006 11:53 AM — 65.242.82.227 — link — abuse?
Forget the old stuff, he was punished for one season of suspension for those actions. The Dec 17th incident has two parts - 1. Speeding - this part I don't care, we all do this at one time or the other. 2. Driving on a suspended license charge was cleared after the insurance payment by his friend (the culprit). Now for the Orange bowl mistake, two game suspension is all that is warranted. This whole thing is either an over-reaction by VT or they are hiding something, but with the current explanation, the punishment does not match the deed.
Cali said:
posted on January 9, 2006 6:02 PM — 67.112.74.4 — link — abuse?
From the west coast to the east...I doubt the Raiders would even take them. This guy is an idiot who is disgracing college football. I can just imagine what he'll pull in the NFL. It's actually sad for someone to be so talented & reckless.
Gary Cole said:
posted on January 10, 2006 4:31 AM — 69.174.193.28 — link — abuse?
First of all,usc fan: Please get some professioanl help! Second, VT Alumni: It was the Gator Bowl (not the Orange Bowl)and the issue at hand is Maucus Vick's integrity, which is non-existent. It has nothing to do with "over-reaction"
Indy Hokie said:
posted on January 10, 2006 8:41 AM — 208.45.156.199 — link — abuse?
Okay, incase you haven't seen it yet, here's a link to Marcus' latest troubles...
Yes, he reportedly pulled a gun on three tens in a McDonald's parking lot. That shows alot of class and maturity. I mean come on, you've already dug yourself a huge hole; do you want to ever get out of it? As a VT alumni, I had hoped for the best from Marcus Vick. But honestly, I'm glad the university dismissed him from the team because he was really giving VT and it's program a black eye.
richard kesler said:
posted on January 10, 2006 10:16 AM — 216.203.27.99 — link — abuse?
My concern is who knew what when, I believe that
Frank Beamer was aware of Marcus Vicks status long
before the Gator Bowl. But, decided to let him
play anyway...Where does Beamer get these recruits??? Does
anyone on his staff do a back ground check???I thought that the "U" (U of Miami)was the worst
disciplined team I have seen in the last 25 years,
but Hokie ball has taken it to an even higher
level......Shame on the University, they are to blame...
Sold the School, for a football program....
EERful said:
posted on January 10, 2006 12:08 PM — 70.88.118.14 — link — abuse?
Hey VT Grad... Your # 32 comment is ridiculous. Are you that ignorant to think Vick actually went to apologize after the game? First of all, what coach would send his player to the opposing team's locker room by himself after that! Vick would have gotten his ass beat... as someone obviously should have done long ago. Secondly, it was after a Nationally televised bowl game. This equals a ton of press and a ton people everywhere. Interesting that not a single person witnessed Vick even attempt to go to the Louisville locker room. Why? Because he didn't! Don't be a fool... I thought VT grads were supposed to be smarter than that. Marcus is 21 and there are many many younger players who have had far less opportunity than he has. Don't give me this, "He'is a kid" crap. It is few and far between that a NCAA player acts like this... and they're all "kids". Like I said previously this season... perhaps little Vick should try to learn a thing or two from the FRESHMAN in gold and blue. I will say it again... thank you to the ACC for taking the trash out of the Big East.
Bubba said:
posted on January 10, 2006 1:23 PM — 138.89.234.200 — link — abuse?
T.O. & Marcus >>> perfect together! Let them both get serious psychiatric help. Owens is too old to grow up. Maybe Marcus can learn from his many, many mistakes... in jail where he belongs! But then again, Mike's money & high priced lawyers'll get Marcus off! And some fool NFL team'll take him unfortunately!
Tommie Trojan said:
posted on January 10, 2006 6:32 PM — 208.57.130.196 — link — abuse?
I think that Terrell Owens should mentor young Vick. Mike said that he would like to have TO in Hotlanta - so, he must be a pretty respectable family friend. Now, I think it would be very much advantageous for young Vick to learn how to become completely self-centered and greedy rather than just plain ol' dangerous. I think that TO could teach young Vick how to become just an obnoxious A-hole. That is much better than being a dangerous felon. And as TO has proven, you can be that kind of person and throw big birthday parties for yourself, and all kinds off riff-raff will still attend. TO could also probably find young Vick a low-life agent who will certainly work for his best interests. Yep, I think that Terrell Owens is one person who Marcus Vick might be able to look up to and admire and respect. Makes sense to me.
Tommie Trojan
VTGrad is a fool said:
posted on January 10, 2006 9:36 PM — 66.232.192.96 — link — abuse?
#32 post....... holy crap so can i deal crack to 8 year old and pimp grandma's out because im younger and get away with it?!?!?!?!?!? uhhhhhhh NO... geez man think about this hes 20 something and hes still an idiot, thats not gogin to change. but the roster at VT can change and did change, good for them. now gimme yoru kids and grandmother so i can get em doped up and pimp dear old granny......
t shoffner said:
posted on January 13, 2006 9:24 PM — 24.163.2.98 — link — abuse?
Marcus you are my favorit collage QB. I hope someone drafts you so you can play your brother.
GetHimOut said:
posted on January 18, 2006 12:16 PM — 64.49.11.250 — link — abuse?
'Bout time Beamer got rid of the punk. He has displayed a bad attitude, just like his brother shows flashes of, the whole time he has been at VT. Lots of people are saying, "Well, nobody knows what he's been through." Yeah, I'm sure it's tough have a multi millionaire brother taking care of you. It's gotta be rough getting to play football while getting a top class education for free. Give me a break. I hope he realizes that he's NOT ready for the NFL. And when he is ready I hope he doesn't try out for QB like Mike. It seems pretty obvious that neither of the Vick's can hit the broad side of a barn with a football.
desmar said:
posted on January 23, 2006 11:34 PM — 68.18.50.221 — link — abuse?
HEY , maybe that Marcus was leaving anyway, so this talk of him getting the boot is for not. lol . It appaers the coachs found common ground. Peace be with all . Virginia tech staff doing the damn thing,,,,,,,thumbs_up@tech.com ,,, lol
get the riff out said:
posted on May 1, 2006 10:08 PM — 24.52.115.10 — link — abuse?
Marcus Vick has all the makings of a school yard legend. That's all he's ever going to be. A what if riff. Everyone passed on him because 1- He's not that good, especially compared to his brother. 2-He's among the elite with the riff-raff. Most of the pro leagues today are loaded with criminal rable. When the moronic end zone celebrations are more important than the score itself, it's time for a change. There are very few humble or modest people left in sports. There are mostly these scumbags like Vick and Owens!
Evan said:
posted on August 15, 2006 11:20 PM — 68.46.163.106 — link — abuse?
Vick should not have been kicked out of VT it was in the middle of a Bowl game and they were losing he was aggravated and was getting cheap shoted i would try to get payback by hitting some one or something like that all he did was step on his leg did he get thrown out of the game...no he should have maybe sat a few games but not kick him out i hope that beamer suffors knowing thathe just ruined a kids carear
VTBobb said:
posted on August 16, 2006 11:30 AM — 208.229.147.26 — link — abuse?
Evan, I agree that the obvious classless cheap shot should not be grounds for a complete dismissal, and in fact it was not.
He was actually kicked off for an accumulation of bad behavior, which he was giving multiple second chances on. The biggest thing was his arrest prior to the bowl game. Even though it was a relatively minor offense, he knew he was on a "zero tolerance" status.
Next time, check the facts.
dml said:
posted on August 19, 2006 10:06 PM — 205.188.116.133 — link — abuse?
well if you are blessed with so much God given talent you should know how to grow and act if you can maintain a positive attitude about ones self without reacting in an aggressive manner. one must break the mold of what the world expects or peers and really check heart. we can't act disorderly and not expect punishment to come. don't think the reaction but the action that caused the reaction. if you know you'll get in troouble for things........ duh!
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EER10 said:
posted on January 6, 2006 3:03 PM — 129.71.238.253 — link — abuse?This dude has a lot of problems man.