August 6, 2007
Beamer: Georgia spied on our practices
Virginia Tech head coach Frank Beamer is closing much of the Hokies football practices to the media and the public this year.
While explaining that the new policy was more in line with other ACC teams, he also pointed out that VaTech's experience with Georgia in last year's Chick-fil-A Bowl had more than a little to do with the decision.
"We practiced out at Georgia Tech and we let all kinds of people through there ... people we didn't really know," Beamer said. "And I thought it hurt us in the bowl game. I'm not blaming anybody ... but I thought Georgia knew exactly what we were doing in several situations."What we've done is when we get to 'team' type stuff we're closing practice down. I think that's in our best interests. I want to give our football team the best opportunity to win on Saturday."
So... there it is. Beamer things Georgia spied on the Hokies (and they very well may have, I don't know... but neither does Beamer).
Correct me if I'm wrong here, Coach, but wasn't it the Hokies that got faked out of their cleats by a Bulldog trick play? Again, I'm not saying Beamer is wrong, but I don't remember any VaTech tomfoolery getting blown up by tipped-off UGA players.
ANYWAY... Virginia Tech is closing most of it's practices. And y'all have Beamer's paranoia Georgia to thank for it.
Comments:
Mrs. ACC said:
posted on August 6, 2007 3:10 PM — 169.200.185.27 — link — abuse?
Well, look who is calling the kettle black. Jim Grobe at Wake Forest has open to public practice. Now go back and review the tape of last years game and tell me who was watching what practice. Had to have the governor whime and cry to get into the ACC now look who's embrassing us.
VTBobb said:
posted on August 6, 2007 4:30 PM — 74.1.112.66 — link — abuse?
Mrs. ACC, WHAT? VT had the #1 rated defense last year, and the offensive scores seemed to have more to do with the Deacon's being outclassed physically.
And Sean, what team do you root for? And exactly how does Tech cheat?
That being said, from what I remember of the game, it was Tech's inability to hold the ball that cost them the game, even if Georgia did know what was coming (not saying they did). However, it also sounds like Beamer just wants to be happen it doesn't happen in the future, regardless of wether or not it happened in the past.
IBleedOrange said:
posted on August 6, 2007 6:48 PM — 71.52.46.154 — link — abuse?
Can't say that I blame him. If I was HC somewhere, I wouldn't hold open practices very often. Maybe in the off-season, but that's it. Why risk it?
#4 - Sean
I can't remember VT cheating ever; they're just really ghetto and do stupid stuff like kick opposing players while they're on the ground and run illigal dog fighting rings.
Mike Dawg said:
posted on August 6, 2007 8:01 PM — 208.61.1.223 — link — abuse?
GEEEEZZZ! Beamer=crybaby=sore loser...GA kicked VT's butt in an incredibly thrilling second half comeback-do ya really think if GA "knew" the plays that they would have been down 28 or so points at the half??? COME ON!!!! Crybaby....
goodolnuma5 said:
posted on August 6, 2007 10:13 PM — 65.24.221.145 — link — abuse?
I agree Mike Dawg,
In high school, a rival stole our playbook and the coach only changed 3 formations. Our rival lost knowing our plays, but not knowing when we'd run them(we ran a single wing offense).
This is not new. Some rumors of teams who cheat err, spy?...Anyone?...
Mr.McAteer said:
posted on August 7, 2007 12:05 AM — 71.206.247.138 — link — abuse?
as a mountaineer and big east fan, im glad miami,v.tech, and boston college left for the ACC.
For one the big east is stronger and has a wider market.Miami fell off and become thug U like it was in the past.V tech has a coach accusing a university of spying(cheating) and his former players are doing ridiculus things in their private time.
Im predicting the ACC to be like it was last year 1 or 2 good teams and a bunch of mediocre teams
Bob said:
posted on August 7, 2007 1:45 PM — 24.99.239.214 — link — abuse?
Yeah Georgia cheated. The Dawgs only trailed 21-3 at the half to throw off the spy chasers. Then they used that knowledge in the second half to mount that comeback. I am sure it had nothing to do with Georgia's defense stuffing the Hokies, or Va. Tech not being able to hold onto the ball. We need to head up to Athens and get those spies to go to Pakistan and find Bin Laden for us.
Aspid said:
posted on August 7, 2007 3:17 PM — 216.96.40.57 — link — abuse?
I'm sure UGA though "Well, let's trail VT over 20+ in the first half and risk losing our bowl game so they won't suspect that we spied on their team."
Pleeeeease, spare me the whining. Georgia performed better in the second half, and VT just melted down.
VTBobb said:
posted on August 8, 2007 1:38 PM — 74.1.112.66 — link — abuse?
Of course a Cane fan would have the attitude "everybody cheats". No surprise there. To paraphrase the plaque on my mom's wall, you live what you learn.
And IBleedOrange, regardless of whichever flavor of orange you bleed, I don't think you want people judging your entire team and school by the actions of a few of your less-than-model-citizen alums.
One more thing. I didn't see Beamer accuse ANYONE of cheating. Even if Tech did spy on WF (I couldn't find the article, but I remember a similar one about WV being accused of spying on Marshall's practice a couple of years ago), which I kind of doubt, how is scouting an opposing teams OPEN practice cheating? Maybe not very sporting, but I don't think it's cheating. Hence the term OPEN practice.
hokie4life said:
posted on August 8, 2007 6:50 PM — 67.72.98.116 — link — abuse?
bob let 'em hate on the hokies baby. it's all going to be ok. this site is dedicated to trashing other teams and their fans. i can't believe a usually very politically correct beamer would open his trap and talk that trash. i could care less if uga spied or not we got our asses kicked the second half of the bowl game. i was there they smoked us in the second half. we melted and couldn't finish the job. last year vt was the better team of the two it just didn't show the second half of the turkey-fil-a bowl! typical hokie melt down. that's all right we had a blast anyway! as for you vick haters out there, me and most of hokie nation hate the vicks too!! save your self the extra risk of carple tunnel and try trashing vt for something else. you can't keep attacking the hokies for the vicks when most of hokie nation are attacking them ourselves. find something else people. maybe trash us because we are red necks and our mascot is a friggin' turkey. maybe that would be good we are the vt turkeys that have been neutered!! yeah hate on the neutered turkeys of vt! GOBBLE GOBBLE BITCHES!! GOBBLE GOBBLE
SEMINOLE_NATION said:
posted on August 8, 2007 10:57 PM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse?
I listened to a great interview of Frank Beamer on the Jim Rome radio show. Rome asked Beamer about these exact comments.
Beamer came right out and stated he was NOT accusing UGA of anything. He was simply stating lots of people showed up to their practice. He doesn't want to take the risk of things about their practices spreading via word of mouth. It's a reasonable concern.
Beamer is a pretty stand up guy, accusing another program of cheating isn't his s-t-y-l-e.
hokie4life said:
posted on August 9, 2007 3:13 PM — 216.89.164.100 — link — abuse?
#19 i wouldn't go talkin all that trash now may i remind you of the Sugar Bowl of two years ago when a Big East Team put an ass whipping on you all! by the way that was supposed to be UGA's year! Any given Saturday! You all busted our tails in Atlanta last year no doubt, it took a huge sway in momentum to do it though. don't go talking that crap about you all being some kind of super power because at best your a mid to upper level team in the SEC. Since VT has joined the ACC we have been favored every year to win the title. Of course it hasn't happened though ANY TEAM CAN BE BEAT just remember that!
hokie4life said:
posted on August 10, 2007 9:20 AM — 216.89.164.100 — link — abuse?
#26 yes i'm sure LSU will be the favs at home LSU is good at home. Don't forget some things though, VT is coming in with the nations best defense and pass attack. I feel like Bud Foster will have a great game plan. You all are breaking in a new and unproven QB. I think VT will blitz the hell out of him, force him into some mistakes and everyone knows VT is tops when it comes to capitalizing on mistakes. VT by 7 my margin. The SEC has traditionally huge men on the O-Line VT's smaller, quicker D will be too much for them. I expect VT to shock the nation and pull this one out VT 20 LSU 13. 10 of the 20 points will be scored or accounted for by the defense.
hokie4life said:
posted on August 10, 2007 9:28 AM — 216.89.164.100 — link — abuse?
#26 P.S. I sense a bit of un-ease and shaken confidence with your post. You know the matchup is coming up are you scared? Are you trying to keep your confidence levels high by making comments against the team who will hand you your first loss of the season? Don't worry it will be a great game. Afterwards, the Tigers should still hold their heads up high because afterall they lost a hard fought game to the Hokies.
geaux tigers said:
posted on August 11, 2007 12:41 AM — 74.195.12.244 — link — abuse?
#28 yes i might be a little scared, well ok alot. VT is tough, what scares me the most is playing yall so early in the season. Our QB matt flynn is a great one, he has played good in some big games{bowl games} but now he is the #1 QB, so we just have to wait and see how he handles the pressure. I think he will do well. we have a great defense so yall better watch out. its gonna be a great game.
c-dogg said:
posted on August 11, 2007 8:54 AM — 76.188.146.251 — link — abuse?
Hokie4life, (#28)
Leave it to V.tech to make excuses for LOOSING! Miami went 7-6 and made no excuses. We took our lumps and that was that. We know why we sucked and have corrected the errors.
And before you run your mouth about Miami.....didn't we beat you guys 23-3 on your field the last time you were highly ranked? Correct me if I'm wrong but Marcus Vick had the worst game of his career.
BTW......Someone is cashing in bigtime on your idiot alumni! www.SICKVICK.com
Tomcat said:
posted on August 11, 2007 2:25 PM — 70.243.65.149 — link — abuse?
soonerfanantic #24 yes its true
OU Ron #25 Yes he was
Barry Switzter is one of the winninest coaches in the History of CFB, one of only two men to win Nat Champ in CFB and NFL the other was Jimmy Johnson his teamate at Arkansas, who later beat OU while at Miami and lead the Cowboys to back to back Superbowl wins prior to Switzers arrival.
Ken Hatfeild also played for Arkansas and coached at Arkansas and Rice.
The great teams of the past utilized the Wishbone formation and the triple option offense.
It was created by UT coach Bellard who later coached at A&M and Miss St.
Texas
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Alabama
They all played against each other using the triple option and these great teams each had their share of Nat.Championships many times against each other.
Switzers record against the Horns 10-4-2
Played for Arkansas coached at Oklahoma
resigned in 1989 after OU was placed on probation by NCAA
Jackie Sherrill also had a winning record against UT. Sherril from Oklahoma played for Alabama and coached at Texas A&M from 82 to 88
left in 88 when A&M was placed on probation by NCAA
coached at Miss St 91-03 and retired when Miss st was placed on probation by NCAA
Coach Gene Stallings played for A&M
was HC at A&M and Alabama
He had an on the feild record of 70-16-1
Bama was placed on probation
Mr. Stallings now serves on the Texas A&M board of Regents appointed by Gov. Rick Perry A&M Grad.
coach Paul Bryant coached at A&M and Bama
Etc. etc.
This post is just a statement of facts that are documented history.
Hookem-Hornshokie4life said:
posted on August 15, 2007 2:36 PM — 216.89.164.100 — link — abuse?
c-dogg of Bad News Kennels: boy! you really hate the Hokies don't you? how do you know the "errors" are corrected. They've proven NOTHING! Miami is a 7-6 team coming in to the season. The butt buddy canes are picked just ahead of unc and duke in the ACC Coastal for this season. Ya'll suck!! I'm no meteorologist but as far as I know, The Miami Hurricanes are the only Hurricanes that SUCK AND BLOW! we will beat you all down like we did last year on your home turf. MUCK FIAMI! Do you really think your pissing Tech fans off talking about the Vicks?? Really??? Most VT fans hate the Vicks too! Including me. Try bashing VT for something else worth while please? Let this be an official announcement on behalf of Hokie Nation; Hear Ye Hear Ye in the future bloggers; try please try attacking VT without bringing the Vicks into it Hokie Nation thinks the Vicks are sick too!! Bash VT for anything else PLEASE!
hokie4life said:
posted on August 16, 2007 9:08 AM — 216.89.164.100 — link — abuse?
#34 really and truly I just hate the Florida programs. Every other program I can deal with mostly Miami has direspected every program it faces. For example, Louisville last year. Going to their home and stomping on their mascot painted on the field at the 50. Didn't help they got waxed anyway. But my point, Miami has a distatsteful swagger/attitude nobody likes unless your a BLOWER fan. In turn they disrespect the rest of college football. I hope they go to Norman and try that shit. Maybe they'll get laughed at again by the whole country.
VTBobb said:
posted on August 17, 2007 10:34 AM — 74.1.112.66 — link — abuse?
Sean, just because I responded with a little bit of intelligent forethought to the point that you had nothing to respond back with, doesn't mean I don't have a sense of humor. Just means you aren't displaying the enough intellect to respond in kind.
I just wish I could have come up with a play on your screen name. It would have helped if you had used a little bit of originality when coming up with it.
hokie4life said:
posted on August 18, 2007 9:07 AM — 67.72.98.112 — link — abuse?
37 that hurt man that really hurts! yeah losing that game to a "dirty program" wasn't the way i would have liked to see that season end. without the games mvp bowden and crew would have lost that game no doubt. fsu should be stripped of that title thats ok though we'll get our two wins against fsu this season and get our redemption we'll see who's ass gets beat at Lane it sure won't be the home team. bring jimbo chuck the chest old decrepid bobby with ya'll the results will be the same. HOKIE NATION bring it!
SEMINOLE_NATION said:
posted on August 18, 2007 9:52 AM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse?
hokie4life #39:
You and your entire program is ALL TALK and NO ACTION. Get a fricking clue man, VT sucks and they've never done ANYTHING in their entire HISTORY of putting on pads.
You live in such a glass house it's not even funny. One word for you: Marcus Vick. Buying underage girls alcohol, wreck less driving, possession of marijuana, flipping the bird to fans (must run in that trash family), pushed a WVU assistant coach, AND then he violently stomped on a UL player's leg. Despite all that - Vick was allowed to play football by your 2nd rate coach. So I'm not sure I'd bring up Warrick playing with some misdemeanor charges.
By the way, when is the last time VT beat FSU? Oh yeah, 1975. VT has never beat Bobby Bowden and they never will. FSU simply OWNS VT. How can you talk trash when your program hasn't even beat FSU in over a quarter century??? Get a clue.
Not to mention your crappy program has never accomplished ANYTHING in it's history - what a joke.
In VT's entire HISTORY they've only won SIX conference championships, six!? WOW that's DOMINATION - not. VT has only won ONE of the MAJOR BCS bowls in their entire history - 1995 Sugar Bowl. Oh yeah, VT's has a LOSING all-time Bowl Record, 7-13. Damn, they've almost lost twice as many bowls as they've won - pathetic. FSU is 15th in all-time winning percentage, VT is only 41st.
You can sit there and cry all day about the 1999 NC but the fact is VT has done the same exact thing.
Bottom line: FSU 2 NC's, VT ZERO.
Your program has never done ANYTHING and has never been better then FSU at ANYTHING.
You have a lot of nerve talking that shit when your program is a joke compared to FSU.
Come back to me when you've actually accomplished something worth while.
c-dogg said:
posted on August 18, 2007 2:12 PM — 76.188.148.145 — link — abuse?
Hokie4life,
You are one funny dude. Fanblogs should make a new rule that only the fans of NATIONAL TITLE TEAMS can blog here. That way you could......you should......you would........wait Hokie? you still there? Kevin didn't put that rule in yet. You can stop sweating now. ;o)
Zac said:
posted on August 19, 2007 12:44 AM — 205.188.116.136 — link — abuse?
Odd, weird, out-of-character, nothing so much as scratches the surface. I guess coaches go through phases just like their teams, because lately Beamer hasn't been all there, at least not from where I sit. He's always been one heck of a coach, one heck of a man in general. In recent years he's been occasionally prone to making excuses. Beamer & Nehlan were tight, and the VA Tech/WVU match-up was every bit as big as Pitt/WVU. We looked forward to it every year. Then, I think it was 6 years ago, VA Tech came in to town, nationally ranked, heavily favored, and raring to roll. Were it not for a fumble returned by Tech for a TD, they were never in the game. Even with 2+ minutes left and their offence on the field, they just quit. I couldn't believe it. That was not a Beamer team out there. After the game there were reports of Frank Beamer making comments about death threats and his entire team being in fear of their lives. No VA Tech team that has ever taken the field has ever feared anyone they were about to play, especially not WVU. Following this were the issues with Marcus Vic, and now this. I don't under stand it. I have to believe it's all been taken out of context some how, because this is not the Frank Beamer I have come to admire as one of the best coaches out there. "All talk & no action..."? Someone has forgotten VA Tech won the ACC their 1st year in the conference, and they've been among the top teams in the ACC ever since. I can't imagine a true Mountaineer not missing the games against VA Tech and the Black Diamond Trophy. I wish they'd found a way to stay in the B.E. As for what's going on with Beamer, your guess is as good as mine.
hokie4life said:
posted on August 19, 2007 10:31 AM — 67.72.98.107 — link — abuse?
#40 take a pill man your totally pissed. Have you not been taking your meds? I bet you'd like to find me and stomp on my leg wouldn't you? As far as I know Beamer don't condone that activity by his players. As you should remember, VT suspended Vick and kicked him out of school for an entire academic year. Plus suspended him for several games for conduct. VT did what it could to turn a thug into a person, it didn't happen. If you forgot last year he was kicked out of VT permanently. If he would have kept his nose clean, he would have played last year. MV only played like 1 1/2 seasons at VT where he could have played for 4 or 5. He had all of the talents Michael did and could have been one of the best QB's in the country. Yeah VT hasn't enjoyed all the past success as other top programs or in FSU's case former top programs, but in just a few short years VT has gone from cellar to stellar. I can think of only a hand full of times FSU and VT have met up in the past 10 years or so. Several of those were in the not so neutral site of Jacksonville FL. We've played Miami year after year since the mid 90's. Guess what? VT has an edge on Miami 8 games to 7. Does that sound like total domination over a team you play year after year? Nope, maybe my point is if VT and FSU were to face each other year after year like the Canes and Hokies do the outcome would be different. You can't win em' all. You face a team like Miami year after year you create a rivalry which is what makes college football so great. I would say that the Miami VT series has become one of the best rivarlries in college football. Neither team owns the other. Stop living on your past success and look to the future man. Living in the past is dangerous. Let's wait till September and see how it all unrolls. You should have that mentality about your team. I can tell your a true FSU fan. That's great. Just know that FSU will lose in Blacksburg this season. We have to win one against you all eventually. It will be this year. At home at Lane. VT is hungry for a win against FSU as am I. But for now we are favored to win the ACC and if we can go to Baton Rouge and pull that one out, we could become National Title Contenders.
SEMINOLE_NATION said:
posted on August 19, 2007 4:40 PM — 71.14.108.232 — link — abuse?
hokie4life #44:
I'm not pissed, just tired. Because on EVERY thread no matter what someone says, you have to find a way to take a cheap shot at a program.
You've taken cheap shots @:
UF
FSU
UM
USC
LSU
Just off the top of my head. I actually like VT and will pull for them in most games this year. You just need to chill out though because no matter what someone says on another thread you'll take a cheap shot at someone else's program.
For example: I made a comment about UM being ranked 31st on the new thread about the AP Poll ranking - all I said was I thought that was too low. I never said a single word about VT. What do you do? You respond to my comment attacking UM & FSU for no apparent reason. The thing is, you do this on almost every thread you post on. It really comes across as extreme jealousy seeing how your so aggressive to try to attack other programs and bring them down.
Just calm down and focus more on VT without bashing everyone else along the way.
As far as VT beating FSU in Blacksburg - it's possible. But, I'll believe it when I see it.
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gatorhippy said:
posted on August 6, 2007 3:08 PM — 209.16.115.5 — link — abuse?Did i miss something...
Since when did Charlie Pell become the coach at UGA...