October 30, 2005
Should Brian Calhoun be the leading candidate for the Heisman Trophy?
Should Wisconsin Badgers RB Brian Calhoun be mentioned as a Heisman candidate? If you listen to the talking heads that dominate the national football scene and Heisman discussion, you might be asking yourself "Brian who?".
Consider this a breakdown of how the media has seemingly overlooked a Heisman candidate, in favor of another, who stats don't quite measure up to the senior transfer student.
Most of the Heisman focus on the running back field has been limited to one individual, USC’s Reggie Bush. And make no doubt about it, Bush is a special player, and has the ability to dominate a highlight reel at any moment when he's on the football field.
But the Heisman Trophy isn't about who is the flashiest or most dangerous football player. It's about who was the best of that particular season, and leaving the Wisconsin RB out of that talk would be a mistake. Calhoun has, up till now, been sliding under the radar on the national scene, which is an extreme disappointment.
Let's take a look at the stat breakdown between Calhoun and Bush.
Reggie Bush
Rushing - 909
Receiving - 284
Punt Returns - 156
Kickoff Returns - 229
Total Yards - 1578
Total Touchdowns - 13
Brian Calhoun
Rushing - 1218
Receiving - 439
Punt Returns - 0
Kickoff Returns - 0
Total Yards - 1657
Total Touchdowns - 21
All stats are current thru yesterday's game.
As you can see, with the exception of Special teams, Calhoun's stats top those of Bush.
What about those return stats you ask? Well, they are heavily overblown in the case of Bush. As of right now, Bush is ranked 20th in the nation in punt returns, averaging 3.5 yards more per return than the 52nd ranked returner. Not exactly blowing the competition away. Bush also finds himself 89th currently in the nation in returning kickoffs. Calhoun, meanwhile, has managed to find the end zone eight more times this season. But even with Bush's return yards added in, he still doesn't match the total yards put forth this season by Calhoun.
What about each player’s teams? Wisconsin and USC both have 8 wins, but Wisconsin did fall to Northwestern just a few weeks ago while USC has yet to be blemished. With a win over Penn State, Wisconsin finds themselves in the drivers seat for the Big Ten title, so it's tough to make the "great player for a mediocre team" argument in this case.
Some will bring up the fact that USC has so many weapons at their disposal. This fact may even further hammer home the value of Calhoun to his offense. With Wisconsin averaging 390 yards per game of total offense, meaning Calhoun's 184 yards per game accounts for nearly half of the Badgers offense.
For even more fun, how about a comparison at 9 games to the last running back to wear a Badger uniform and take home the Heisman - Ron Dayne in 1999.
Ron Dayne - 1999
244 touches
1396 total yards
17 touchdowns
Brian Calhoun - 2005
291 touches
1657 total yards
21 touchdowns
Now, Dayne was no doubt helped by the fact that he surpassed Ricky Williams to become the NCAA's all time leading rusher that season, meaning the award was given in part due to 'career' achievements, something that Calhoun can't match.
Comments:
michael said:
posted on October 30, 2005 9:04 AM — 72.26.148.237 — link — abuse?
Who cares about Big 11 football? USC is playing for the national championship. Wisconsin is playing for... a spot in the Cotton Bowl? Citrus Bowl?
This debate is also silly because Vince Young will win all the hardware.
Hook 'Em Horns.
Terence said:
posted on October 30, 2005 9:35 AM — 70.112.167.99 — link — abuse?
nice to read this, as I just finished watching the big10 highlights on sportscenter, including Calhoun's run. extremely nice vision, weaving in and out of his blockers before hitting the corners and turning it on to hit the endzone.
Tommy, I remember Bush wowing us in last year's Championship game. oh wait, no I don't. regardless, the Heisman is an annual award and has nothing to do last year. not sure if Calhoun should be leading the Heisman race, but he should certainly be in the discussion. and boring? you should try paying attention to something outside your myopic LA world.
Michael, they play Penn State next week for the Big10's BCS bid. so no, a spot a little better than those.
posted on October 30, 2005 10:52 AM — 12.223.242.140 — link — abuse?Pete Holiday said:
Interesting points, but let's remind ourselves that the Heisman isn't a statistical award, it's for the "most outstanding college football player." And while it does clearly fail to consider a lot of amazing football players (Defensive players, linemen, etc...) in my opinion only a very, very small percentage of a heisman ballot should be dependent on stats.
Sure, there's a minimum level needed, but above and beyond that, there are a lot of intangibles. I think it's hard to say that the Heisman isn't about being the most dangerous player in the game... it's clearly as much about that as it is stats, since how "dangerous" a player is has just as much to do with how "outstanding" they are as statistics do.
Likewise, though to a lesser degree, with flashiness.
Here's the statistic I'd like to see... for rushing, yardage gained on touchdown carries. For receiving, yards after catch on touchdown carries. That would show a lot more about individual talents (in re the touchdown category) than the number does.
Keegs said:
posted on October 30, 2005 11:19 AM — 216.15.57.16 — link — abuse?
Without Bush, USC would still be 8-0, at worst 7-1. (he carried them in South Bend). Without Calhoun, Wisconsin is a middle-to-bottom of the pack Big Ten team -- as almost everyone who failed to foresee the emergence of Calhoun predicted.
Of course, this isn't an MVP, it's the best player, and that's El Presidente. And this is coming from someone who has a full-fledged mancrush on Calhoun.
zippy said:
posted on October 30, 2005 12:26 PM — 172.128.54.139 — link — abuse?
It would be a legitimate argument if i hadn't seen reggie bush play. He won the Notre Dame game by himself. You also left out that he has a heisman candidate behind him in Lendale white, three excellent receiving targets in jarret,bryd, and smith. I would give it to Bush because he's amassed so much on so few carries against tougher competition. Oregon, Arizona State, ND, Arkansas.
posted on October 30, 2005 2:02 PM — 68.35.231.61 — link — abuse?
You may have a point about Calhoun being a better back than Reggie. But I'm sure that his location and his team hurt him more than anyone wants to admit.
portis said:
posted on October 31, 2005 8:52 AM — 24.140.92.2 — link — abuse?
The Heisman has been turned into nothing more than a popularity contest at America's biggest universities. Wisconsin doesn't have Victoria Secret parties, or the LA nightlife, but they do have a Heisman candidate that won't get mentioned because he plays for Wisconsin.
Matt said:
posted on October 31, 2005 12:21 PM — 199.43.32.17 — link — abuse?
"The Heisman has been turned into nothing more than a popularity contest at America's biggest universities. Wisconsin doesn't have Victoria Secret parties, or the LA nightlife, but they do have a Heisman candidate that won't get mentioned because he plays for Wisconsin."
That, plus Reggie Bush plays on the most talented team in college football, and Wisconsin couldn't carry USC's jock.
Carry on.
Jeremy Collins said:
posted on October 31, 2005 12:35 PM — 167.239.199.191 — link — abuse?
Who Cares? The heisman never goes to who deserves it. The heisman id supposed to go to the nations best player not the best player on a good team.
It never happens.And for those of you vrying that Calhoun will not get it b/c he if from Wisconsin, Ron Dayne took home the hardware not to long ago.
Tim said:
posted on October 31, 2005 3:06 PM — 65.82.24.254 — link — abuse?
Yeah, Brian Calhoun should be in the Heisman talk right now. He means more to Wisconsin than Reggie Bush does to USC. And he's done it against better defenses.
It'll be a moot point though after this weekend. I don't think he'll have the same success against PSU as he did against Illinois. And if he does, it'll be a bad day for us PSU fans.
While we're talking Heisman candidates... does anyone else think that Maurice Drew is getting the raw end of the Reggie Bush love-fest? Drew has by far better stats and would probably be voted as California governor if he played for USC. Heck, I think I'd be a Heisman candidate if I played running back for USC. Some of the wholes Bush runs through are big enough for Ted, the cable guy to run through. And it's not like he's playing against defenses like PSU, OSU, VTech, Miami, FSU... he's playing against Arizona State, Oregon, UCLA... teams that could plug a nose-bleed, let alone the A gap.
Kent Taylor said:
posted on October 31, 2005 6:30 PM — 64.0.74.10 — link — abuse?
If statistics are a major factor, it looks like Vince Young is the clear leader for the Heisman Trophy. His numbers are competive with those of Bush and Leinart combined. Through 8 games for each:
In 4 of the 8 games, Young’s TD’s rushing and passing exceeded the combined total of Bush/Leinart for that week.
In 2 of the 8 games, Young’s total yards exceeded the Bush/Leinart combined total for that week.
Young’s total rushing yards are 80% of Bush.
Young’s total passing yards are 73% of Leinart.
Young’s total rushing and passing yards are 75% of Bush & Leinart combined.
Young’s total rushing TD’s are 80% of Bush.
Young’s total passing TD’s are 84% of Leinart.
Young’s total TD’s are 83% of Bush & Leinart combined.TrojanBeast said:
posted on November 1, 2005 12:31 PM — 208.3.69.196 — link — abuse?
"Young’s total rushing yards are 80% of Bush."
"Young's total passing yards are 73% of Leinhart." etcetera, etcetera. WHAT? PLEASE! This sounds like voodoo mathematics! You know, the type of mathematics the "other" Bush used to swindle voters during last election. And just like that Bush, it appears someone is trying to blow smoke up our you-know-where. People, heisman discussion also takes into consideration the Body Of Work. When you look at that, there's no comparison to Reggie Bush. What has Calhoun done beyond this season.Hmmm, not so much. Vince young? Yeah he had a good game in the rose bowl, but so did bush in the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME! And trust me, Body Of Work does count. Else Adrian Peterson should have won the heisman last year. This coming from a trojan for life.Ben said:
posted on November 1, 2005 1:58 PM — 128.104.192.225 — link — abuse?
Mr. TrojanBeast, You may be right that in recent seasons the Heisman has gone to a player with outstanding accomplishments in previous years but that's not the way it's supposed to be. What USC did last year and Wisconsin and Texas didn't do means absolutely nothing. Not to mention they did it in a conference that doesn't even know how to spell defense. Don't get me wrong I am a huge Pac 10 fan having grown up in Oregon but their idea of defense is letting the other team score so that they can get the ball back and score more. To the topic at hand, Calhoun should be considered. He has superior stats to most of the country, has single-handedly lifted the Badgers from the middle of the Big Ten to a shot at a conference title and a BCS game, and has done so in a conference that at the beginning of the season looked to be "top to bottom" the best conference in football (second maybe to the SEC). Not to mention the Big Ten prides itself in defense, specifically stopping the run. Yes the Big Ten has underachieved this year but here's a crazy idea, maybe Big Ten teams lose not because they are worse than other teams but because they have to play 7 or 8 solid teams each year. Guys like Bush, Leinert, Calhoun, and Young are all incredibly talented players and worthy of the Heisman. Whoever gets it will have the credentials, stats, and impact to deserve it. I have no problem with you guys supporting "your guy" as I will with Calhoun but let's quit with the D@!% arrogance and give some other players some respect.
Jared said:
posted on November 1, 2005 2:57 PM — 24.116.46.112 — link — abuse?
Lets not forget that Calhoun is just as good if not better at the reciever position than is Bush. Don't forget that he competes with Orr and Williams for cathces. Williams, who is arguably one of the better recievers in the Big Ten. He is the best all around athlete at the RB position. And he gets it done against far better defenses than does Bush. That is by far the most overlooked fact when comparing the two great backs.
Pat Ryan said:
posted on November 1, 2005 9:02 PM — 152.163.100.139 — link — abuse?
this is all a load of crack. Sure Reggie Bush can spin and juke, BUT LOOK AT HIS TEAM. Brian Calhoun can do all this with a little above average team. The real deal here is that Notre Dame's Quarterback BRADY QUINN is the best player in college football.
WVU SAYs said:
posted on November 2, 2005 2:54 PM — 4.155.75.140 — link — abuse?
I for one can't say enough about the talent in the BIG TEN but, I:m a WVU Fan, so I can tell you boys this!!! Pac ten stay out west with your soft schedule as for Bush well when I see him against a real team .WVU played them big old boys from the Wisconsin and it was"t pretty but we likem anyway.At least texas showed they could play.How would they do if they had ohio st schedule or penn st or notredame a independent but with a very good schedule.No like texas they really don"t play any one where they have injuries > and UCLA come back kids against who.i"m rooting for you big ten where there is no room for the faint of heart.gotta go WVU has some Dogs to feed tonight.
UWforBigTenTitle said:
posted on November 2, 2005 11:52 PM — 63.239.60.223 — link — abuse?
I agree that USC has weaker competition than Wisconsin and that it's clear that Calhoun is a better running back. Reggie Bush is obviously the most exciting player in the nation but he doesnt do as much for his team as Calhoun. Calhoun is the best all around running back and deserves to contend with the rest of the heisman contenders. I look for Brian Calhoun to lead Wisconsin to the Big Ten title. Go Wisconsin
Jeremy said:
posted on November 2, 2005 11:57 PM — 65.26.196.51 — link — abuse?
I grew up with cal back in Oak Creek since we were kids. Hes gotten Bigger, Faster, and Stronger every year since he has gotten to college. Bush is amazing and probably will win the heisman this year, but Cal will win it hands down next year
Fanofthepac said:
posted on November 3, 2005 10:10 AM — 63.87.122.42 — link — abuse?
UWforBigTenTitle #22 - you're killing me by saying USC has weaker competition than Wisconsin. Bowling Green and Temple along with Big 10 patsies such as Indiana, Purdue and Illinois hardly amount to tougher competition. In addition USC has played and beaten two teams (ND and ASU) who have beaten teams on Wisconsin's schedule (Mich and NW). Tougher schedule, I think not!
unknown said:
posted on November 3, 2005 10:04 PM — 24.208.170.228 — link — abuse?
it doesn't matter who he plays for, the heisman is about that individual player and how good he is. calhoun is making wisconsin amazing which makes him an even bigger canidate. and look at the competition of usc. nobody. calhoun deserves the heisman and he mostly likely won't get it cause people are retarded.
DenverBucky said:
posted on November 4, 2005 1:54 PM — 167.127.104.11 — link — abuse?
While UCS (and Bush) is obviously playing in a bigger media market and contending for the national title, let's not dismiss the role of Wisconsin (and Calhoun) on the college football landscape. Year in and year out, UW plays in a tougher conference than USC and one that leads the country in attendance...every single year. UW is the 9th biggest university in the country...with 6 of the top 10 largest coming from the Big Ten.
So while Bush deserves a seat in NY, someone else said it best, "open your myopic eyes" and realize Calhoun (and UW) deserve a seat at the party.
BlueandGold4life said:
posted on November 4, 2005 1:59 PM — 63.87.94.130 — link — abuse?
Living in Big 10 country I get to see every Wisconsin game but Calhoun hasn't played against one of the best... The Ohio State. Wisconsin got off easy this season by not playing against the Buckeyes or Michigan not to mention losing to a streaky Northwestern team, and once I recovered from the Prez'z performance against my beloved Irish, I think its a no-brainer now.
Smarter said:
posted on November 4, 2005 3:13 PM — 66.13.229.126 — link — abuse?
Bowling Green, Temple, North Carolina, Northwestern, Illinois, Hawaii...those are some quality opponents (sorry to see San Jose State was not on the schedule), and I hope everybody has been sending thank you cards to Minnesota for that win. You Big Ten people say the PAC-10 has no defense? Wow! Looking at those scores, I assume the Big Ten plays eight-man football. Why isn't Basanez from Northwestern getting any attention? He's got some impressive numbers, and if I remember correctly, tore up the Badgers pretty good.
Jim said:
posted on November 4, 2005 3:56 PM — 129.29.227.2 — link — abuse?
First of all, the strength of schedule should not matter in this conversation. Compare USC and Wisconsin's top players. USC had at one point in time this season 3 contenders for the Heisman trophy. Brian has had to shoulder the load of this Wisconsin team all season. I have no problem giving Reggie Bush or Vince Young or Matt Leinart the Heisman, but Brian should at least be in the top 5 of the talk and head to New York for the trophy presentation. If this award were for Most Valuable Player, no USC Trojan should be on the list because they have too many weapons. Brian takes number one in that race. And look out for next year cause he's already declared to come back.
Brad said:
posted on November 4, 2005 5:55 PM — 69.171.40.95 — link — abuse?
I wonder if everyone saw the same game I did...you know, when USC pulled a win out in the last seconds against ND. Wow. I wasnt too sure about the Heisman winner before that game, but now there is no question. Reggie Bush makes plays when he needs to make plays. True Calhoun has some better stats however the Badgers are not undefeated. That says that Calhoun did not make plays when he needed to.
and for the kicker...heres your stat pete.
NAME CAR YDS YPC LONG TD
Reggie Bush 111 909 8.2 76 10
Brian Calhoun 254 1218 4.8 46 19Note the YPC difference :)
Jimmy Blam said:
posted on November 4, 2005 7:22 PM — 148.107.1.20 — link — abuse?
This is not a completely fair stat comparison. If Reggie got the ball as much as Calhoun does he'd be blowing everyone out of the water. Bush gets about 20 total touches a game including carries, catches and returns. That's not a lot.
One of the reasons SC has been so dangerous is that Reggie Bush has never be "the" featured weapon. They spread the ball a lot to a lot of guys.
AgRyan04 said:
posted on November 4, 2005 8:27 PM — 24.160.80.2 — link — abuse?
Calhoun is having an incredible season and should at a minimum get the invite to NY....alas, the big media won't help him just like they didn't help Darren Sproles in 2003 when he put up a season VERY similar to Calhoun's.
Sproles trumped Chris Perry all across the board but since he didn't play for a traditional powerhouse his invite was apparently lost in the mail.
BadgerBander said:
posted on November 4, 2005 8:54 PM — 66.188.85.176 — link — abuse?
Calhoun should be on the list and in the discussion. The Badgers' success is because of him, no questions. However, he doesn't deserve the Heisman - Calhoun has only been OK against tougher defenses. To truly get recognition he needs an amazing showing this weekend in Penn St., which seems unlikely.
As for thanking Minnesota, why? People always point to close wins and go "Look, they aren't good!" But guess what? It doesn't matter. What matters is who won. And USC can count their blessings this year in that regard. Wisconsin deserved the win - any team who can blow a ten point lead in such an amazing fashion as Minnesota doesn't deserve a victory.
Not having Michigan St. on our schedule doesn't matter this year - they lost to Michigan, we beat Michigan. And they lost to Northwestern by a lot more than we did - at home besides. So that isn't even a factor in the Badger success. As for Ohio St., that will be settled against Penn St., as Penn St. beat Ohio St. If the Badgers win, Ohio St. is not a factor either.
Vince Young deserves the Heisman. The guy's a stud, and there's no one to compare.
Number2 said:
posted on November 5, 2005 3:12 PM — 24.177.114.55 — link — abuse?
Calhoun is a good back, and at least should receive some consideration for the Heismann, but he won't win it. Although, I don't think Bush is any better of a player than Calhoun. Everyone knows who Bush, Leinart, and White are, but can anyone out there name two Badgers? Calhoun is THE offense on an 8-1 team that is 7th in the country in scoring. His YPC is lower than Bush's, but it is not buoyed by huge runs. He is quick in the open field, but he is consistently getting 4-5 yards each handoff. When Calhoun is given a series off, backup Booker Stanley cannot move the ball like #2 does.
james said:
posted on November 5, 2005 4:07 PM — 66.245.82.1 — link — abuse?
Brian calhoun should not be the heisman winner not only because he is not putting up the numbers that Reggie Bush and Vince Young are, but his team is also garbage. They will be beat by Penn State today and Brian Calhoun will play horribly. Penn State will anihilate this so called 'Heisman Candidate' of yours. Crackhead
scott poslosky said:
posted on November 6, 2005 3:45 AM — 71.241.77.81 — link — abuse?
I think reggie bush should win the heisman because he's the best player in the land i think he's the best running back since barry sanders. the reason people are asking why brian calhoun should get it is because his stats are higher. that's because reggie bush doesn't get the ball as much his average on the ground is higher and he plays on a more talented team. If you look at reggie bush's career it has been dominate through out not just one year. he averages 10 yards a play every time he touches the ball when is the last time a running back did that.
Chris said:
posted on November 6, 2005 11:38 AM — 66.71.57.82 — link — abuse?
Reggie Bush and Brian Calhoun are both good players but, if you are looking for the best player look at Mike Robinson. He's turned an entire program around. Everyone is so quick to jump on the USC band wagon for something they did last year.
Big Dan said:
posted on November 6, 2005 1:13 PM — 66.71.48.140 — link — abuse?
Well, so much for that "Cal-who?" talk...as we all expected PSU thrashed Wisconsin and held their team to a total of -11 yards rushing...Calhoun meanwhile got 38 yards on 20 carries...i was at the game they fed him the ball like no other and he still only squeaked out 1.9 yards per carry...in all the heisman talk you should really consider those yards per carry...shows the efficiency of the player not how much a team depends on him and hands him the ball over and over (see Laurence Maroney)...bottom line-Reggie Bush for Heisman
Calwho? said:
posted on November 6, 2005 3:41 PM — 192.204.28.49 — link — abuse?
I think this question was answered yesterday by the Nittany Lions. There's no question Calhoun was the backbone of the Badger team. And with the terrible lead blocking and pass protection the Badger O-line put up, maybe there's more merit to his skills to hit the holes than he's received. It's been interesting to watch teams flounder this year coming into Beaver Stadium (first Minnesota and now Wisconsin) with a "Heisman" type rusher brought to his knees.
I have to admire the fight Stocco put up. He definitely did his best to keep his team in the game, after Calhoun got shut down. Too bad he had Tamba Hali to deal with.Peyton said:
posted on November 9, 2005 10:54 PM — 24.94.226.29 — link — abuse?
This is a joke right. "The most outstanding football player." last i checked that would be the best player. just looking at those stats is unbeleivable. Calhoun dominates bush in the two areas that matter for a running back. But then you say well that just means bush is a better all around player than calhoun. If that determines the heisman winner i bet someone at a small school no one knows of could use some hardware like that because he has to play offense and defense and special teams because he has to and he steps up to the challenge.
Even though the badtgers lost to penn state dont those numbers show who really is the best player in college football. Brian Calhoun of the Wisconsin Badgers.
Dan said:
posted on November 11, 2005 3:21 AM — 66.71.73.139 — link — abuse?
Peyton,
In all fairness, Reggie Bush should have to play Penn State, too, instead of the soft defenses of the Pac-10, but can a heisman candidate put up 38 rushing yards in the biggest game of the year? No. It's the truth, just as d-end Matt Rice said it, Penn State is "Heisman Hell" this year, but Brian Calhoun got outshined big time by Tony Hunt in the Penn State game (as in over 150 yards to 38 yards), and nobody even knows who Tony Hunt is outside of the Big Ten. One bad game isn't just one bad game when it's the biggest game of the year, and Brian Calhoun isn't Reggie Bush. Then again, Reggie Bush isn't Vince Young, and I can't stand Texas - he's just good.
Jake Fegan said:
posted on November 12, 2005 11:01 AM — 24.196.102.159 — link — abuse?
Several years ago, the Hesiman voting degenerated into the same type of practices that keep players in Major League baseball on non-winning teams from winning the MVP Award. It seems as if the Hesiman winner, in many people's minds, must come from a national champion contender (and thus a BCS conference school). I disagree with that notion. For example, would Barry Sanders win the Heisman in 2005? His team finished in the middle of the Big 12 despite his backfield heroics. I was amazed, several years ago, that LaDanian Tomlinson, who SHOULD have a Heisman, even made it into the top 5 coming from Texas Chrisitan.
In the Big Ten, the best players are Calhoun, Mulroney, Basanez, Sutton, and Hawk. Big Ten Player of the Year should be Basanez.
deo in sin city said:
posted on November 23, 2005 12:07 PM — 68.108.117.180 — link — abuse?
WELL......
After this past Saturday night, if you people in the east coast were actually awake, you would have seen who truly deserves the heisman this year.....
But I guess people who vote for the heisman, who are living east of the rocky mountains, and are not SC graduates are probably still going to vote for sorry-@$$ Vince Young.....
I just hope that I'm wrong, and they actually make the right decision and give it to you know who.....
-but I guess that's just wishful thinking.....
FIGHT ON MEN of TROY.....
Brad said:
posted on November 28, 2005 2:02 PM — 148.8.151.50 — link — abuse?
The badgers have a VERY poor offensive front. Besides Joe Thomas the team has very little experience or skill. Also the GREAT lead blocking of Bernstein has been missing almost all season with a sports hernia. Its like the same situation as when people use to say "if barry sanders had emmit smith's line......." he shouldnt win the hesiman but he should definatly be a contender
jaimie said:
posted on December 2, 2005 9:03 PM — 71.98.44.78 — link — abuse?
Brian Calhoun is a very good back and reciever, even though the badgers have been without another outstanding player in bernstein he has been able to create his own holes. No, he maybe should not win the hesiman but he definatly shoud get some respect and he should be mentioned.
Go Vince Young!!
balsam said:
posted on December 5, 2005 10:27 PM — 69.217.229.246 — link — abuse?
well calhun is one of the better backs in the nation, but just like wisconsin is not ready to go to the national championship game calhun is not ready for the trophy.
well you might say what about the 1600+ yards he put up this year, i say that is nothing compared to having 750+ all purpose yards is just sickso i say dont be stupid and think that calhun has a chance of winning the heisman trophy.
O ring said:
posted on January 9, 2006 11:19 AM — 69.222.106.230 — link — abuse?
If Calhoun is playing in L.A. for usc he would be the leader and if Reggie played for Wisco he would not be in the race. The bottom line is the market you are playing in decides your heismen status. Its a shame that college football has fallen into the grip of analyst. The bottom line is if your going to have an opinion and voice your opinion you cant just watch sportscenter. If you watch both backs in a full game i think it is obvious that they are both great backs but i cant imagine watching calhoun run through the holes Bush does. They should both be heismen canidates but the truth is Vince young is without a doubt the best, most valuable player in college football.
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Tommy said:
posted on October 30, 2005 8:13 AM — 24.199.204.130 — link — abuse?Calhoun = boring, Wisconsin, transfer student
R. Bush = exciting, LA, 1 National Championship